For one, the Version 2 VZ-R had a completely redesigned rear sub frame done by NISMO to get the best out the torsion bar suspension. I believe it was set up to have 0% toe in. which helped dramatically around the corners, a second thing to note, that this VZR having yellow interior, was the Super lightweight version of the VZR N1 V2. only about 60 or so made out of the 200 VZR's. most of them were converted to track cars, they are rare as hens teeth. The engines from the V1 And V2 are the same, and with the V1 it really goes to show how much the torsion bar suspension let it down. you cant compare it to the Civics individual strut system. which just goes to show why the V1 got completely dominated by the civic, but the V2 was all over it, plus dori dori obviously, but really goes to that Nissan really gave honda a Run for their money for 1.6 class. >totally not biased owning 2 VZ-R's myself. :3
Kieran Wyatt The Civic is the best car though. The only reason the Pulsar was better was because it had 200hp. Check the Spoon version against the N1, that makes a difference.
@none Non electric windows lightweight seats id say about 10-20kg but it wasn't just that they changed version 2 gearbox to shorter ratios for track use and setup the suspension as you can see compared to version 1. There were no engine modifications V1 and 2 are the same
WAIT WAIT WAAAAAIT !!! This Pulsar was modified. So, it's not a fair race. The video was cut short and we're missing the list of mods applied. In any case, thanks for the quality upload :)
No! It is a fair race since the spec of the Nissan now matches the spec of the Honda. From factory the Honda spec is similar to street. From factory the spec for the Nissan is to get shopping. So now it’s fair.
Now is the time for nissan to release a gti-R version of their current pulsar turbo, with the new civic R out and the euros dominating the small sports car market they have to do something
It's like how mitzubisti have got rid of the evo like wtf are you thinking the only good car you make you say no more. It's like they have never seen this thing called the internet and seen the millions of people who dream of a fast car and work their asses off to buy their dream car.
you are correct, most people dont care about "the driving experience." If I can get a small RWD turbo ehybrid with modular traction control for 40k that does 0-100 in 5s in 10 -15 years I would be a happy man
@@ProductofNZ there was no engine changes just gear ratios and suspension so 🤷🏽♂️. Also nissan were never fully focused on N/A as they also built turbo cars. At the time Honda only built N/A so obviously they had better knowledge
it's a N1 spec engine it's built for race it's quite amazing that the civic ek9 doesn't have a racing spec engine and keep up with the pulsar yes the chassis/suspension played a big role but in straight lines the civic wasn't left in the dust (or rain in this race)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this Nissan an upgraded version whereas the civic is stock? So it would be more fair if the Nissan raced say a spoon version of the civic?
@@oneautowerkscustoms8883 VZR N1 using SR16VE N1 which is not from factory and tuned by autech nissan subsidiary company. upgraded camshaft, using 8 injectors & larger throttle body it doesn't sound OEM to me
I don't feel any envy or anger when watching these videos..instead I smile and laugh at that Nissan mockery of Honda. Anyway both car have its own strength and weakness though.
LMAO....Pulsars have always been faster cars than Civics. Their are also standard versions of Nissan Pulsar family cars which have no turbo sport and has over 190bhp. Sport version GTIR are a beast from the East. Nissan are known to be making the fastest cars in Japan, Honda comes 2nd and Toyota 3rd.
well of course the vzr was gonna win, not a matter of better car its all in the driver. doridori is the best. it would have been a fair race against gansan.
***** Thanks for the info. By the way, how You manage to keep this videos on you tube? many channels which showed hv & BM was banned for copyrights violation((((
nissan loosing to the king - then REMAKE the engine, the balance, suspensions, etc ... and what a surprise: it won! it's funny, but also it is cheating. let a spade be a spade.
![[ENG CC] Spoon Civic EK9 vs. Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 Version II battle in Ebisu 1999](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kmzf5744ILQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[ENG CC] Spoon Civic EK9 vs. Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 Version II battle in Ebisu 1999](/img/tr.png)
![[ENG CC] Tuned NA battle - Spoon Integra R, Spoon Civic, Silvia S13, MX-5, Levin - Tsukuba 1997](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/P1TBhbcUR6Y/mqdefault.jpg)
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For one, the Version 2 VZ-R had a completely redesigned rear sub frame done by NISMO to get the best out the torsion bar suspension. I believe it was set up to have 0% toe in. which helped dramatically around the corners, a second thing to note, that this VZR having yellow interior, was the Super lightweight version of the VZR N1 V2. only about 60 or so made out of the 200 VZR's. most of them were converted to track cars, they are rare as hens teeth.
The engines from the V1 And V2 are the same, and with the V1 it really goes to show how much the torsion bar suspension let it down. you cant compare it to the Civics individual strut system. which just goes to show why the V1 got completely dominated by the civic, but the V2 was all over it, plus dori dori obviously, but really goes to that Nissan really gave honda a Run for their money for 1.6 class.
>totally not biased owning 2 VZ-R's myself. :3
Kieran Wyatt The Civic is the best car though. The only reason the Pulsar was better was because it had 200hp. Check the Spoon version against the N1, that makes a difference.
So the Pulsar was better because it was better?
I'm a honda guy at heart, but i'll give it to nissan this time. Great car, not a whole lot of cars were faster than the civic r at the time.
@none Non electric windows lightweight seats id say about 10-20kg but it wasn't just that they changed version 2 gearbox to shorter ratios for track use and setup the suspension as you can see compared to version 1. There were no engine modifications V1 and 2 are the same
Nissan suspension is garbage. The Superstrut in the Levin/Trueno is much superior around corners, even better than the Civic stock for stock.
WAIT WAIT WAAAAAIT !!!
This Pulsar was modified. So, it's not a fair race. The video was cut short and we're missing the list of mods applied.
In any case, thanks for the quality upload :)
Just version II...No mods...sr is a better engine and the n15 with the right ratios and rear toe is faster than the type-r...
@@ariskeram5770 exactly mate
No! It is a fair race since the spec of the Nissan now matches the spec of the Honda. From factory the Honda spec is similar to street. From factory the spec for the Nissan is to get shopping. So now it’s fair.
@@skykid4000 hahaha we need to review your definition of "fair" ;)
@Charlie Grace F1 is also "factory tuning"... would you count that as a fair adversary to any car ? ;)
Nissan don't make cars like that anymore what a shame. There's a few of them in New Zealand still going for about 10k.
Now is the time for nissan to release a gti-R version of their current pulsar turbo, with the new civic R out and the euros dominating the small sports car market they have to do something
It's like how mitzubisti have got rid of the evo like wtf are you thinking the only good car you make you say no more. It's like they have never seen this thing called the internet and seen the millions of people who dream of a fast car and work their asses off to buy their dream car.
you are correct, most people dont care about "the driving experience."
If I can get a small RWD turbo ehybrid with modular traction control for 40k that does 0-100 in 5s in 10 -15 years I would be a happy man
パルサーのシフトアップ時のタコメータの動きがクロスミッション入ってそうな感じ…
Those guys really put a smile on your face!
Would have like to see a mugen tuned ek9 since mugen is sold through Honda dealers. That way it would be tuned vs tuned.
この映像には、続きがある。
Pulsar VZ-R N1 Version II の価格は294万円であり、
Civic Type R (EK9）の199万円と、大幅な開きがあった。
その為、100万円かけてチューニングしたCivic Type Rで再勝負したら、シビックの圧勝。
ua-cam.com/video/Kmzf5744ILQ/v-deo.html
Amazing Race!
どちらもかっこよくて素敵ですな。
You sir....just earned yourself a sub!
結局パルサーは亡くなりシビックはインテRよりも格上げされる謎支配で生き残る
結局本当のユーザー目線のメーカーなんて無いんだな
obuti kakuei で結局、シビックの利便さとインテ並の速さを合わせた環境最強？のシビックが出来ちゃったしね
ユーザー目線で作ったら長生きできないのが正解。
パルサーを一言で言うなら バカ
(誉め言葉)
原点回帰したのは今のところはﾛｰﾄﾞｽﾀｰだけかな？
ﾌｪｱﾚﾃﾞｨZは一応Z33で一度原点回帰したけど。
EK9が何台生産されらか？っていったら、たった1万4000台なんですよね。(DC2が約25000台)
ちなみ英国生産のEP3シビックRが36000台で、S2000が12万台ですからね。
ユーザー目線っても、とんがった車を買うユーザーは国内だけみてたら商売になんないからどうにもならないですよ。
どうしてもこの頃のニッサンには
広報車チューンを感じてしまう…
thanks bro
I still prefer the EK9 such a beautifull car
Nissan kept updating the model because they kept losing to the civic. Had to make this highly tuned ver. 2 to finally beat it.
@@ProductofNZ there was no engine changes just gear ratios and suspension so 🤷🏽♂️. Also nissan were never fully focused on N/A as they also built turbo cars. At the time Honda only built N/A so obviously they had better knowledge
SR16VE king of 1.6l
How the hell did Nissan pull 200hp out of a 1.6 NA in 1999? Their USDM Sentra SE-R Spec V made the same power out of a 2.5 a few years ago.
Man from Nantucket yea the good old days engine vibes yo
'Fuel Economy'
it's a N1 spec engine it's built for race
it's quite amazing that the civic ek9 doesn't have a racing spec engine and keep up with the pulsar yes the chassis/suspension played a big role but in straight lines the civic wasn't left in the dust (or rain in this race)
hugonubario both amazing machines
because the USDM is suffocated by emissions, wich they did not have for the JDM market. JDM Engines are always making more power then USDM and EUDM
miroshi tienes mas videos del pulsar vzr n1?...ya descargue todos de best motoring y son pocos 1time atack y 5 carreras q tengo nada mas...:(
I own european version of Pulsar - Almera GTI SR20DE. Seen this vid 30 times rn. Awesome.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this Nissan an upgraded version whereas the civic is stock? So it would be more fair if the Nissan raced say a spoon version of the civic?
Gumpy 49 this is a race between 2 original specs from factory . Civic Type r is a race spec from honda . The same as pulsar N1 wheres N=nismo
@@oneautowerkscustoms8883 VZR N1 using SR16VE N1 which is not from factory and tuned by autech nissan subsidiary company. upgraded camshaft, using 8 injectors & larger throttle body it doesn't sound OEM to me
@@EGK20 Vzr N1 is a OEM factory engine made by nissan it is only tuned by Autech.
Ahmad Safwan spoon ek would destroy the nismo
@@MR-SR20 its a super limited produced engine, only 200 ever made.. Honda made 100 000 + B series type R engines... go figure why Honda won the war.
またシビックの引き立て役かと思いきや。まさかの展開。テンロクパルサーとかあったんですか？？こりゃインテRといい勝負かも。
I don't feel any envy or anger when watching these videos..instead I smile and laugh at that Nissan mockery of Honda. Anyway both car have its own strength and weakness though.
Nice
thanks !
2:34 WTF pulsar...
パルサーの足ががウエットに合ってそうですね❗
パルサーだしね❗雨には強いでしょ。
でた日産お得意のチューンド広報車
そんなデモカー有るわけですね🍀
DMC IC まあでもこれに関しては前回普通のパルサーでボロ負けして話にならなかったからチューンドカーでバトルしてるんでしょ。ノーマルじゃ勝てないないなんて承知の上
この動画の切り方が悪いんですけど、このバトルのあとちゃんとチューンしてる箇所公表してますよ
ohoo that pulsar is fast also
Nissan upgraded the Pulsar because the first version got trashed by the EK9 But still, people preferred the civic and people didnt buy much pulsars.
LMAO....Pulsars have always been faster cars than Civics. Their are also standard versions of Nissan Pulsar family cars which have no turbo sport and has over 190bhp. Sport version GTIR are a beast from the East. Nissan are known to be making the fastest cars in Japan, Honda comes 2nd and Toyota 3rd.
@@KUzZ911 fucken rofl... Nissan has always been in Hondas shadow when it comes to real motorsport, dont talk smack...
@@pswmetalmonkey Not really, the EK9 would have got smacked in the face by the Pulsar GTI-R
well of course the vzr was gonna win, not a matter of better car its all in the driver. doridori is the best. it would have been a fair race against gansan.
Sometimes, I like Civic Type-R, my best car.
Dori Dori weighs more than Tsuochiya that explains part of the gap. Weight saving ftw
Yea poor ek9 was defeated, i think i heard hattori grinding gears...
Power_of_R yeah, the 1st gear downshift, even the triple synchros can't keep up.
That nissan is not stock but also not looking like n1 because nissan have interior and no roll bars
I guess its tuned pulsar
+miroshi What is this show? Bestmotoring? Hotversion? or what?
if the video title has a sufix HVxx then it's Hotversion otherwise BM
***** Thanks for the info.
By the way, how You manage to keep this videos on you tube?
many channels which showed hv & BM was banned for copyrights violation((((
in the stock to stock the nissan loses.
this vzr has had tweaks done in this vid.
It's all oem just like the Honda
@@MR-SR20 it's oem same as mugen honda. Pulsar VZ-R N1, produced from 1997 to 1998. These cars were tuned by Autech Japan !!
@@djurica86 what's your point? The Honda was tuned by Honda
パルサーは、広報車チューンですね。
Sr16 Ve truely vtec killer..
技術の日産
nissan loosing to the king - then REMAKE the engine, the balance, suspensions, etc ... and what a surprise: it won!
it's funny, but also it is cheating. let a spade be a spade.
これで、みんな騙された😂
実際の競技では全く勝負にならんかった
まったく別物のエンジンが載っていたか
ボディの鉄板が薄くて軽かった
のどちらか、としか思えない車でした
車の性能の評価を自分の走りが有利か不利だけで評価する土屋圭市
Spoon civic destroy the pulsar v2 in the last straight in other video.. haha
Well it fucking should
The civic is a lot better looking car
video shared on facebook.com/theRacingCorner ;)
all clouds of their people of honda because your cue lost #onlynissanpower
cougaridis 1 this nissan lose vs spoon ek9 #onlyhondapower
Honda power bitch's
That pulsar was tuned by autech, not stock and only 60 were made. Of course it won against a stock CTR