This is a great suggestion and probably what I will grind for! Any tips for lunastra master rank? Havent really fought her in master rank. Only remember her being a pain in high rank.
@@MarkusKhan_ Making a blight resistance charm helps a lot, or building up to 20 fire res, wind resistance is good too, she's got a REALLY powerful nova so flash pods and life powder are kind of a must, also good luck
Thank you for the kind words and understanding that these videos take up a lot of time, especially with my editing style which can be quite laborious. I'm glad to hear they are appreciated 😉
Heres a few extra tips: When he does the Cascading Lighting columns, you can roll between the hit boxes and rush straight for his head. If you’re doing this with 1 or 2 players, make sure your Palico has the Vigorwasp Spray, because it can revive you once per quest. Eat for different bonuses after you faint. Definitely get Safeguard at least once for another extra life. I go for felyne Rider, Felyne Riser Hi and Elemental Res Up (L) otherwise. Felyne Riser Hi makes his double whammy charge combo MUCH easier to avoid. Id even say that not using it will cost you a cart even, since he’s got a terrible tendency to do this after the 2nd phase. The horns are VERY frail. When he’s in dragon mode, make it your mission to only go for face and smorC him hardcore. Blight Resistance Lvl 3 is not that hard to gem in. And there are level 4 decos that have this skill and another for better synergy based on your weapon type if you’re not using a Safi set. Sushifish Scales work the same way as Astera Jerky, if you need more of them..... And GO FOR HIS FORELEGS / ARMS. His head moves around way too much for consistent damage . Only go for his hindlegs if his lightning storms prove an issue, and his head when he’s writhing on the floor in pain or when in Dragon mode.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the sets you make, they really helped me out during the Basegame Archtempereds, so nowadays I usually go with meta sets your videos really helped me get into setbuilding in general because they can actually made by new commers that don't have all the equipment and decos a speedrunner would have.
Glad you like them! Just remember that in a game like monster hunter, the "meta" is whatever you decide it is and by that i mean you work best with builds that fit your play-style. The rng on jewels/decos is just too big to give out a set that will work for everyone so i hope you find something here that works for you 😃
Failed for over twelve hours over two days. Was waiting for one of your awesome guides, and now have a fighting chance. Can't wait to clear it and get access to the event quests and make the armor and weapons.
@@Jandabeargaming cleared it for the first time today. Need the tail and wings to make the rest of the gear. Thanks again for the guide, it really helped.
I haven't had a chance to actually fight Alatreon yet but I was worried based on all the comments I've seen online about the fight but, you make it seem pretty easy so I might just have to give it a try later. Thanks as always for the guides!
Like any monster they add, it's always hardest at the beginning. Stick with it and you will be dodging his attacks without thinking about them. He is more challenging than most of the monsters they have added in Iceborne but not the hardest in my experience. Everyone has a different struggle i guess. Good luck!
Struggled since release running with random players. Used the tough cookie build and won on the first run ! You and your builds have always been amazing. Thank you so much !
Good choice of weapons and if you like bow, his one is pretty amazing for dragon element. Granted that not many endgame monsters have a 3 star weakness to dragon but it is a very versatile bow for so many of them!
Hi Minikins. Glad your back and hope your doing well. This fight was such a pain but great as well as funny to see that my long sword build that I used to beat him was super close to the build you made for melee. Anyways great video. Keep up the good work and welcome back. Now back to the grind lol
that chart was exactly what i needed tysm!! and after I'd already made my peace with just ungabunga-ing my way through Escaton Judgment with felyne safeguard too lolz
It's helpful to be able to visualise what active state you are up against and what that means for your builds/weapon choice. I did think to tell players of the "carting method" but opted against it as i think he is very beatable with some proper build management and learning his attacks, not to mention it's a bad method if you intend to play with others. Congrats on your win regardless of how you achieved it :)
For soloing Alatreon takes a lot of practice and focus for its attacks. From ranging ice breath, fire beam, thunder strike, dragon goes boom, and oil spiting (his water attack contains oil that can be set off by his fire) Its LBG is great since its has all the rapid elemental ammo, which you can use for each phase, and plus is an endurance test that makes you to go freaking nuts! If Frozen Barioth comes out in August and the special assignment quest requires you to beat Alatreon first, that where you need to get your A-Game on set.
I'm looking forward to Frostfang Barioth! I don't personally think Alatreon will need to be defeated in order to try the Barioth as it's coming to us as an event quest. Should be fun regardless though!
after beating him the first time i noticed his own LBG is incredibly powerful against him, with full safi beta set, if possible 3 recovery up, if not 2 levels of it, 3 levels of fire and ice attack, health boost, blight resistance (obviously), fortitude and weakness exploit added in i was able to solo him with it, of course make sure to give it the 2 levels of health regen for extra safety, felyne safeguard to restock when you die the first time without consequence and get that 1st fortify as well, and for escaton judgement astera jerky AND sushi fish scales if you have them (warning that it takes about 26 minutes like this but it's doable), oh also give your palico the meowlotov tools,oh and i almost forgot get the spare shot charm, it will be a huge difference in this
Yeah it's ironic that some of the best equipment to kill him with is his own! I'll share my LBG builds with you all soon as well. Mean time, good luck farming the materials and help out your fellow hunters who are struggling!
Thanks and nah i've just been very busy in real life between moving house and other things but hopefully i can get things on a more regular schedule. I was also stuck without internet for a while and the move was already planned before the pandemic hit so there was no turning back for me at that point.
Don't give up and consider making specialised online sessions for others to join you. If you are relying on SOS then you will have some tough times ahead.
Great video run down! After seeing videos of speed runs i didnt really understand what I was up against. This gives me hope for my average mh skills T^T
Glad I could help! Don't read too much into speed-runners as they can often set unrealistic expectations. What you also don't see with a speed-runner's upload is the countless times they failed or got bad times so had to re-run over and over again. I sometimes speed-run for my own entertainment but i put my energy into putting up builds that most players would enjoy.
Nice attention to details when showcasing the HH ( played a song to show how the horn sounds) and the set itself ( showed it with and without pigments so you can see which parts can be dyed) . The LBG from Ala alone is almost enough to flinch him in a 4man hunt , however people are carting from the normal attacks too , so WR+Ala HH (ele dmg boost + ele effectiveness ) OR the Ala LBG + Safi set , are my set up- choices .
Glad the editing is appreciated as it takes a lot of time in "sony vegas pro 16". If anyone else has good editing software they recommend then i'd be interested in trying it out. Yeah his normal attacks can hit hard but personally i found it easy to evade him on LBG and as for DB's you just feel invincible. Love my HH's though and cant wait to share more builds for them!
I use alatreon HH to make sure my team pass element dps check. It works well, usually topple him in 2-3 min mark. Long before he switch to dragon element. The problem then goes to survive his normal attack, you know, randoms.
Thank goodness for an actual quality guide, this monster is kicking my butt only cause of Judgement. I've straight up run out of materials (for once) trying different weapons so I can meet the Dps check. I don't know if it's just me, but it feels like after you get that first dps check to pop getting that second one is significantly harder. I swear with lance I can get it in a few minutes easy but I don't see a second one it'll I'm 10+ minutes into the fight, long after it's first Judgement. So far my best chance had been Lance, but holy poop it's like capcom hates anyone using a shield for its intended purpose. If you don't run max guard you may as well not even bother counter lancing let alone trying to counter claw. Everything eats an unholy amount of stamina otherwise, heck even with max guard it's still hellish to manage depending on the attack. That LBG look's disgustingly powerful I can't wait to craft and max that.
Escatons Judgement isn't the best of mechanics they have decided to put in a MH game and yeah some weapons will undoubtedly struggle more than others. I do miss the times in monster hunter games where a hunt was challenging due to the monster and it's entire move-set rather than 1 mechanic/skill being the deciding factor but Capcom seem to want to go that way and i can live with it since the rest of the fight itself is fun. The LBG is totally worth it and you should aim to get it made asap. It will help with subsequent clears. I've tried many weapons on him already and from my personal experience i prefer dodging him to blocking but i see no reason why all weapons wouldn't be able to clear this solo given the right build/practice to maximise dps for the check.
No kidding, I had quit playing mmo's in general cause endgame stuff like enrage timers/ dps checks just isn't fun to me. Behemoth I accepted cause mmo crossover what else was I supposed to expect, Safi it wasn't actually hard to hit the dps check so long as everyone stays fairly close and it was a brief moment to catch your breath and sharpen/heal, but alatreon is just straight up we took an mmo mechanic now die and/ or waste healing resources. At this rate I'd rather be forced to wait for a monster to wake up from a nap so i can fight it, ala rathalos from the very first first game, then this as type of mechanic. This fight is what makes it so bitter sweet, cause Aside Judgement, I love this fight and that one move is souring it something fierce for me though I'm sure once it get the elemental dps check down I'll be in the same boat. I wouldn't be surprised if i can already make the LBG, I've failed for multiple days snagging what drops and parts the cat's stolen. I might just do that honestly. Yeah like the past few dps check monsters it's just a matter of time before the majority of the community gets it down myself included. It's just a little jarring that safi was fun, and alatreon is souring at least for me at this moment.
I don't agree with Capcom having added this type of mechanic into the game as i believe it is artificial difficulty and easy to overcome when you know how. I sometimes miss the hunts of older MH games where the whole fight itself was challenging and didn't rely on cheap 1HKO mechanics. Other than this 1 thing that is holding players back from beating him, i think the fight is awesome and well done to Capcom. I think we are likely to see more mechanics like this added in the remaining updates the game has left along with any future MH console game coming out so we may as well make our peace with it 🤷♀️
If they Monster hunter-fied the mechanic I wouldn't be bothered by it. like If you have a lance/ HBG with 3-4 shield mods and guard up user everyone can Brace that hunter for less damage taken, gunlance/ HBG with 2 shield mods can be braced with two hunters and S&S/ HBG with 1 Shield mod can be braced with one other. It promotes teamwork, it would be less punishing for the team as a whole, and it would help counter not meeting the dps check in another way. It eventually wouldn't need to be said( they could even throw an ingame tip if you have those specific users in your party), like how even now with Judgement, mear days after alatreon, people will group up in pubs cause of health booster nothing said. I love this fight and i hate hating it cause of one bad mechanic. hopefully in the future they make it less horrible
I've been reading forums/reddit and the such and from what i can tell, generally the Japanese public have enjoyed this type of new mechanic so i don't know what that means going forward for the franchise. It is what it is unfortunately and it definitely is dividing opinion amongst the player-base.
I don’t remember how many times I died while trying multiplayer. Lastly decided to play solo and after 3rd attempt I finally killed it. So far got 2 more win from multiplayer. My favorite weapon is LBG. Emmm, look like a shaver 🤣
So i made your lbg build with alatreon lbg but i dont have your release/vitality jewels so i had to work around that now i can get closer to beating him
I was struggling as I’m not even MR 100 yet so augmenting most of my gear is neigh impossible, but an Evasion DB build worked like a charm. You can’t die if you are in constant I-frame not to mention you are pumping out insane dps
Congrats on your win! I do feel though the MR requirement of only 24 on this is very misleading to players who might be newly joining Iceborne. Should have been at least MR100+
@@Jandabeargaming Yeah Alatreons base attacks hit like a goddamn freight train and he is pretty aggressive when you are trying to pop a flare for help, This might be my favorite incarnation of him though, totally a different fight from the OG from Tri on Wii, (RIP medium bowguns)
The Alatreon hunting horn is the best hunting horn for this quest, high raw, high element, Lots of purple sharpness, positive affinity, and all the elemental boost songs you could ever want.
A lot of Alatreon's weapons are best for hunting him but that won't help the players who need to beat him the first time around :) Once you beat him the first time, you should succeed more often there-after.
It was recently discovered by dataminers that the dps check is treated like status buildup, and he gains resistance after each one. So subsequent judgment weakenings are harder to reach. Fortunately working towards the buildup happens immediately after you trigger it, so it's not like you have to start all over again after he uses his nova. It was also discovered that each weapon has a different modifier that contributes to this threshold. So in theory it should be balanced between all the weapons since the ones with better elemental attacks have to do more elemental damage, and weaker ones like GS and hammer need to do less elemental damage to trigger the DPS check. In practice though I feel like they need to slightly tweak some of the values since for certain weapons it's just way too hard, even if you counter build and play well. It's just not consistent. I try DB (a weapon I barely play) and think he's super easy but then try gunlance (my second most used melee weapon) and can't clear the DPS check once. If you're having trouble, use ICE or FIRE and make sure you break the head. Dragon has elemental hitzone values of ONE when he is in dragon and ice form, meaning your dragon damage will be reduced to 1% power. Fire and ice on the other hand do good damage even when he's in dragon form. I know it's frustrating when you fail the dps check, but I feel like it's ok, personally. This guy should be super super hard because he's supposed to be a black dragon with the power to eradicate civilizations. By all means fighting him should be suicide lol
I would agree on that the elemental damage is indeed like a "bar" that you "fill up" in order to cause the stagger or horn break. This much is true. The only thing that does not add up for me and others i know would be dragon in his ice or dragon form only dealing 1% of the intended damage to his "bar". If that were the case then there would be pretty much zero chance of me soloing him on dragon based weapons (so far ive done it with DB's, HH, Longsword and Charge Blade) and weakening his judgement. Without a doubt though getting that elemental dps threshold is easiest on fire and ice weapons depending on what active state he is in but some of the findings from these data-miners doesn't add up with my own experience. It is easier on some weapons that others so the info on some weapons having varying modifiers is up still up in the air unless we see some concrete evidence. I think in a large part his difficult comes down to how players have been conditioned to fighting monsters up until now. Alatreon clearly shook things up a bit and the player-base along with it. All in all i can say that he is 100% soloable with any of the elements on his weakness chart that i show in the video. Best of luck guys and don't give up! It's a fun fight and it'll be interesting to see what monster they add next to upstage him (not including Frostfang).
@@Jandabeargaming I can rarely be bothered with elemental LBG builds, it's so much effort trying to maintain high stocks of the ammo and the crafting components.
2:35 Ah, the elusive Release/Vitality Jewel, my nemesis. Will definitely try that LBG though. Went into the Assignment with the Frostshot, but that thing was useless if the horn didn't break.
Yeah it's definitely better going in with the more versatile "Blaze" and once you beat him craft Alatreon's LBG instead to have access to all elements rapid-fire.
@@Jandabeargaming Took a dozen or so more tries, but I got him. Immediately had enough materials to make and upgrade the LBG. Really nice weapon. Also really dig the look and sound of the Hunting Horn. Shame there's no Attack Up XL on there.
The biggest problem I have as a GS user is dealing damage without being caught up in an attack; GS is naturally very slow. This is more of a problem when I try to solo. I have fought him off with a group of randos. The problem is, I don’t really have much experience with other weapons and dodging/evading in this game doesn’t make much sense to me. I can’t figure out the exact moment one is supposed to dodge.
Honestly for solo if you don't wanna worry about breaking horns using dragonbone weapons fully augmented for element with 1 augment for affinity you'll have like 900+ Dragon that's how I finely did it anyway.
Dragon weapons are more than capable of killing him although there seems to be some bad info out there and people think it's impossible or the horns must be broken, both of which are wrong of course. Well done on your win :)
Jandabear, thank you for the excellent video as always. Have you heard anything about a glitch where power barrel DOES NOT work with elemental ?i've been seeing that crop up in some of the comments on other streamers sites?? Or has anyone else noticed this. thanks
You're welcome for the video. As for the "glitch" in my thousands of hours and so many of them on my Bowguns (both HBG and LBG) which are some of my main weapons i can't say i've ever come across such a bug. I will however say that there is a difference in the timing of the "tics" as they are known for when a bullet passes through a monster part and depending on how Capcom have created the hitboxes for the skeleton it could come across as power-barrel not working as intended. This is made all the harder to detect if the monster is moving and flailing around. I wouldn't pay much heed to such rumours unless someone can provide me with solid video evidence, i'll just put it down to user error.
Now that ive beaten him several times and crafted his whole set both gauntlets and several of his weapons i cant wait for the summer festival and frostfang barrioth
I've been at this for 3 days straight and i still haven't completed the special assignment once in solo or multiplayer i keep getting teams that just dont do enough elemental dmg and the fact that i play gs dosen't help. I've done the quest so many times if it wasn't for the wings i could make multiple full sets of alatreon armor just from plunder blade
GS isn't perhapsd the most friendly weapon on this hunt but the elemental damage values were modified for this quest specifically by Capcom so you shouldn't be at a disadvantage. Make sure your Gs is of high elemental value and also i woudl suggest playing with a "Critical Draw"+"Quick Sheathe" build which is what i do on my GS for faster moving monsters that lets me line up powerful draw attacks. You won't always get the chance to pull of a true charge slash combo without abundant slinger ammo reliance.
Certain attacks he does give more opportunity for larger clutch windows than others. The more you clutch him the more you will learn which ones give the best chance.
It's not the escaton judgement system that annoys me, but the amount of material grinding you have to do for augmentations and mods to be reliable efficient.
I'm trying to solo Alatreon but I don't know how to prevent it from changing element after I've broken both horns, can someone tell me what to do then?
You don't need to break horns to weaken the judgement but if you are soloing it then go with the stronger elemental option (ice is a good choice). Only break 1 horn per judgement so as to space it out and even after both horns are done you will still have plenty feints to fall back on and you should get it killed. Equipping fortify and eating for "Felyne Insurance" will serve to increase the lives you have to kill it. Good luck!
Keep at him. Once you know what move he is throwing your way it becomes easier to find your windows of attack to meet the elemental dps checks. Good luck and take your time.
I'm dropping a video later today showing Alatreon's LBG but there are several builds within the video so you can pick one from there and use it with the "blaze". Keep your eyes peeled on the the channel!
Did you solo it with the blaze lbg? I found that lance is good element but i think laks raw i lockd him 3 times and broke both horns 20min in and he was still alive then i mesd up i carted thinking he was in ice mode came with fire and couldn't lock him up and nova time
Yes i've soloed him several times on LBG already and the "Blaze" made it really easy with the dual elements to meet his weakeness every time and then i went ahead and made Alatreon's LBG which has all elements on rapid-fire.
I'm assuming you are referring to the LBG set as i had a resentment build for the melee sets already. Personally i would not recommend using resentment jewels over elemental as the dps check itself relies purely on amount of elemental damage dealt. Raw only contributes to bringing his HP down whereas elemental is for both the checks and killing it. You could add in resentment into the glider mantle instead if you wanted but keeping up maximum element is truly key to this.
@@Jandabeargaming oh sorry I thought its for both, yes yes makes sense now. I'll try the LBG build, got alatreon LBG, or is Safi LBG better? I never used LBG so I'm not familiar with them (T_T)
If you have access to Alatreon's LBG then you should definitely go for that but if you are not used to playing with the weapon then i suggest taking a look at some of my other LBG videos to get some understanding on "Gun-mods" otherwise you will have bad times. The melee builds are pretty durable though if you are struggling.
I had this problem also with randoms joining with raw or blast weapons thanks to some UA-camrs out there giving poor advice and not having the decency to retract it.
@@Jandabeargaming yes for two novas weak and the rest of the fight I cant do enough element damage and death. my mistake my set is different From yours. Ask lbg From set the works is almost all element and one defence in augment?
Make sure to DPS nonstop. Don't try to aim for his horns or tail only. Fire at him without trying to line up perfect shots. You will meet the dps check if you follow that method and make sure your elemental damage is capped like i showed in video.
I've been trying so many different ice builds but sometimes I just can't hit that dps check. :') Personally I'm not too comfortable with dual blades and I can't fight Lunastra so back to the drawing board to me. Gonna keep trying with my sucky insect glaive builds lol.
@@Jandabeargaming her blastscourge is my big bad. If I make my own builds I like to always have health boost 3, free meal secret and gobbler these days. I fell in love with kulve taroths gear after the event and is finding it hard to change to anything else. I'm not exactly the best at avoiding attacks even though I mostly play Insect Glaive so I tend to rely on the seemingly endless healing items with free meal secret. Other than those I usually try to max attack and/or critical. I find it hard to fit in anti blastscourge in my builds basically. I tend to rely on other people's builds honestly because the ones I make just arent very fun but at the same time I'm too much of a coward to make something different.
If you really enjoy the build you run then i suggest taking glider mantle and putting anti-blast jewels in it and as your 2nd tool take the fire-proof mantle which has anti-blast built into it. They should both be up most of the time if you switch between them as 1 runs out and blastscourge should be less of an issue for you. Also use my astera jerky method to heal through the super nova. You should beat her no problem with a bit of practice after that.
Do you have another release jewel that is combined with a 2nd skill? The "free meal" and "resistor" jewel are ones you can afford to give up but you really need the full level of "ammo up" jewel to get the extra clip-size. IF HP is a problem then consider dropping 1 elemental damage jewel to get it to 3/3.
Hey mimikins my wife is having problems with beating the special assignment of alatreon i have tried to help her with it so many times but with no success i have even played on her account to help her out but still no luck we play on xbox though. I would like your opinion on her build for alatreon if you dont mind and also she doesnt have that many decos as well.
All elements work on on him so long as you are getting the message from the handler to say he was weakened like i show in the video. Check the chart in the video to see which element is most potent depending on his active states.
Depending on your weapon of choice, "Evasion Window" can be awesome. Once you have learned his moves and can dodge without thinking on it much then you should replace it with more DPS or a utility skill of another nature. Congrats on your win :)
I'm assuming you are referring to the "Yukumo" outfit which was part of the Iceborne pre-order bonus but there are a couple of different outfits in this video so let me know if that wasn't the one you were seeking.
Yes that was the Yukumo layered armor which i got for pre-ordering Iceborne. Unsure how to get it now, perhaps someone else in the comments can see this and answer that part.
The melee builds used for the DB's here are very usable for long sword also (except for the marathon runner skill). You could change up that piece of armor to add in a skill of your choice and run with an elemental LS. What you go with also kinda depends on if you play solo or group.
Jandabear Gaming any long sword weapon suggestions? I’m trying to do the special assignment. He starts in fire mode I tried velkhanas and I’m getting carted left and right thanks janda!
Velkhana's Longsword is ok but i would recommend the "Apsara Glacia" from the legiana tree as a crafted option otherwise you would need to see if you were lucky enough to get your hands on a Kjarr ice one and upgrade it to master rank levels. Even the "Mammoth Longblade II" from the Banabaro tree is an excellent choice if you can release the element on it and run with "mind's eye" jewel to prevent blue sharpness from bouncing off Alatreon. The fact that this one is also rarity 10 means you can augment it heavily with slots and skills.
Generally speaking without going into super detail, if you have any of the MR Kulve Kjarr weapons, they are very good and have critical element built in. If you don't have them you will need to go for some crafted options but which element in particular are you seeking?
@@Jandabeargaming i want to have like the main elements like fire,ice,dragon,thunder,water bcs it will be easier to beat a specific monster with x weakness element
Give the "Apsara Glacia" from the legiana tree a try. The "Mammoth Longblade II" from the Banabaro tree is an excellent choice if you can release the element on it and run with "mind's eye" jewel to prevent blue sharpness from bouncing off Alatreon. Being a rarity 10 weapon means you can augment it with a lot of slots and skills. Try to look for other Long Swords that are in a similar light to these ice ones such as Anja Direfang for fire etc. Hope this gives you some ideas.
Bring fire herbs and snow herbs with you. Each herb crafts 6 bullets so that's another 120 bullets for each ammo type meaning even without spare-shot skill you have 180 fire and 180 ice shots at your disposal in total. Use the settting for "craft all" in the radial menu to instantly top off missing amounts. You should then never run out of shots before he runs out of HP. Good luck.
Do you have some advise for a SnS support player? I haven't played for a while, I'm a bit out... Thanks for this good manual and nice too see you are back with a lot of more content 😊🤗
The core skills for survival and dps are the same in that you should be looking to cap out elemental damage for your chosen element against him. Depending on if you are solo or with others speed eating with recovery up will top you off quickly. Wide range charm can be taken to support team mates. Blight resist can be a godsend here unless you want to rely on nulberries. Divine blessing can be helpful but not needed if you are good with timing attacks and blocking accordingly. These are some basic tips and the rest is just building sets around those core ideas.
Alatreon is here xD Question - WHAT is that background music? It sounds sooo familiar but I can't place it :) Awesome video as always :) thank you Mimikins
This is a good guide. Too bad I suck so bad trying to fight it. I tried different builds and I just lack the skill to ever beat it. I guess I have to be okay with that.
My experience Wednesday Night/Thursday morning was awful. So many carts lol 😂 but we were trying to brute force it with Blast weapons. Using the Kjarr Ice proved to be the deciding factor lol 😂 very fun fight
I've watched many of your vids. I should have subscribed a long time ago. I will try this out. Switchaxe is to slow. I get punished before I can get my weapon put away. I'm like 0-50 fighting this monster...smh.
Switchaxe is a good weapon for this fight (it's 1 of my favorites) but i agree that it's a cumbersome weapon to use without some key skill changes. Putting your weapon away is a problem if you don't build around things like "evade extender" to help close gaps and pairing it with "evade window" for survivability. Give these builds a try first before deciding on what to modify within them to suite your own needs and good luck! 😃
If you or someone else is wounding parts then aim along those otherwise try to aim through his head or tail to maximise the tics on elemental shots. It's far more important in this fight to be firing nonstop at him than to slow your dps down for the sake of lining up "perfect" shots.
Safi is indeed available currently as Giantdad has stated although his equipment is not necessary to beat him, it is pretty ideal. Can be done with a mixture of gear if you are running the correct elements and attacking relentlessly.
I'm glad someone finally reminded people that the lunastra lbg has both fire and ice rapid fire.
I love this gun and i used the high-rank version of it pre-iceborne back in Kulve Taroth farming days for the 4th stage.
Jandabear Gaming this gun helped me so much as well with this fight until I obtained and upgraded to the alatreon dominator 😄
Yeah Alatreon LBG is awesome! Enjoying mine a lot :D
This is a great suggestion and probably what I will grind for! Any tips for lunastra master rank? Havent really fought her in master rank. Only remember her being a pain in high rank.
@@MarkusKhan_ Making a blight resistance charm helps a lot, or building up to 20 fire res, wind resistance is good too, she's got a REALLY powerful nova so flash pods and life powder are kind of a must, also good luck
Your guides are a godsent as pretty much every channel focuses on meta speedrun sets, thank you for your time on doing these videos
Thank you for the kind words and understanding that these videos take up a lot of time, especially with my editing style which can be quite laborious. I'm glad to hear they are appreciated 😉
The free meal was working like a charm I managed to beat Alatreon recently. Thank you so much!!
Well done on your win! 👍
Heres a few extra tips:
When he does the Cascading Lighting columns, you can roll between the hit boxes and rush straight for his head.
If you’re doing this with 1 or 2 players, make sure your Palico has the Vigorwasp Spray, because it can revive you once per quest.
Eat for different bonuses after you faint. Definitely get Safeguard at least once for another extra life. I go for felyne Rider, Felyne Riser Hi and Elemental Res Up (L) otherwise.
Felyne Riser Hi makes his double whammy charge combo MUCH easier to avoid. Id even say that not using it will cost you a cart even, since he’s got a terrible tendency to do this after the 2nd phase.
The horns are VERY frail. When he’s in dragon mode, make it your mission to only go for face and smorC him hardcore.
Blight Resistance Lvl 3 is not that hard to gem in. And there are level 4 decos that have this skill and another for better synergy based on your weapon type if you’re not using a Safi set.
Sushifish Scales work the same way as Astera Jerky, if you need more of them.....
And GO FOR HIS FORELEGS / ARMS. His head moves around way too much for consistent damage . Only go for his hindlegs if his lightning storms prove an issue, and his head when he’s writhing on the floor in pain or when in Dragon mode.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the sets you make, they really helped me out during the Basegame Archtempereds, so nowadays I usually go with meta sets your videos really helped me get into setbuilding in general because they can actually made by new commers that don't have all the equipment and decos a speedrunner would have.
Glad you like them! Just remember that in a game like monster hunter, the "meta" is whatever you decide it is and by that i mean you work best with builds that fit your play-style. The rng on jewels/decos is just too big to give out a set that will work for everyone so i hope you find something here that works for you 😃
I've watched so many guides to defeat Alatreon but finally using the Soulfire Rasp "Blaze" i did it. Thank you so much for the great guide.
Glad I could help! Congrats on your win and get his LBG made! 😉
Am planning to 😁
Failed for over twelve hours over two days. Was waiting for one of your awesome guides, and now have a fighting chance. Can't wait to clear it and get access to the event quests and make the armor and weapons.
Good luck, don't give up and remember the first win always comes the slowest.
@@Jandabeargaming cleared it for the first time today. Need the tail and wings to make the rest of the gear. Thanks again for the guide, it really helped.
You're welcome :) Congrats!
I haven't had a chance to actually fight Alatreon yet but I was worried based on all the comments I've seen online about the fight but, you make it seem pretty easy so I might just have to give it a try later. Thanks as always for the guides!
Like any monster they add, it's always hardest at the beginning. Stick with it and you will be dodging his attacks without thinking about them. He is more challenging than most of the monsters they have added in Iceborne but not the hardest in my experience. Everyone has a different struggle i guess. Good luck!
Struggled since release running with random players. Used the tough cookie build and won on the first run ! You and your builds have always been amazing. Thank you so much !
Glad I could help and congrats on the win :) Make some of his weapons and put him on farm!
@@Jandabeargaming lbg, longsword and full armor have now been made ! Again, thank you so much for all that you do !
Good choice of weapons and if you like bow, his one is pretty amazing for dragon element. Granted that not many endgame monsters have a 3 star weakness to dragon but it is a very versatile bow for so many of them!
Hi Minikins. Glad your back and hope your doing well. This fight was such a pain but great as well as funny to see that my long sword build that I used to beat him was super close to the build you made for melee. Anyways great video. Keep up the good work and welcome back. Now back to the grind lol
Thank you :) I've beaten him with LS solo also and it's a fantastic weapon for it. Good luck farming your materials!
that chart was exactly what i needed tysm!! and after I'd already made my peace with just ungabunga-ing my way through Escaton Judgment with felyne safeguard too lolz
It's helpful to be able to visualise what active state you are up against and what that means for your builds/weapon choice. I did think to tell players of the "carting method" but opted against it as i think he is very beatable with some proper build management and learning his attacks, not to mention it's a bad method if you intend to play with others. Congrats on your win regardless of how you achieved it :)
@@Jandabeargaming thanks! hahah and agreed, it would def be an awful thing to ingrain into ppl lmao
Just wanted to say thank you for the second dual blade build. Already killed my third Alatreon easily solo with it
You're welcome and congrats on your wins :)
You are amazing. Without your guides I would have given up on the game a long time ago. Keep it up
Thank you for saying so. The support from my UA-cam community helps me to keep going!
For soloing Alatreon takes a lot of practice and focus for its attacks. From ranging ice breath, fire beam, thunder strike, dragon goes boom, and oil spiting (his water attack contains oil that can be set off by his fire)
Its LBG is great since its has all the rapid elemental ammo, which you can use for each phase, and plus is an endurance test that makes you to go freaking nuts!
If Frozen Barioth comes out in August and the special assignment quest requires you to beat Alatreon first, that where you need to get your A-Game on set.
I'm looking forward to Frostfang Barioth! I don't personally think Alatreon will need to be defeated in order to try the Barioth as it's coming to us as an event quest. Should be fun regardless though!
Gooooooooood stufffff
This was the best guide I’ve seen so far
Thank you so much
Just soloed him with the cookie build with some modifications to fit my style, thanks for the help ^^
Nice work! 👍
Great editing on this, good job!
Glad you enjoyed it 😃
You’ve been MHW mia. Glad to see some content again.
Thanks! Feels nice to be posting again :)
after beating him the first time i noticed his own LBG is incredibly powerful against him, with full safi beta set, if possible 3 recovery up, if not 2 levels of it, 3 levels of fire and ice attack, health boost, blight resistance (obviously), fortitude and weakness exploit added in i was able to solo him with it, of course make sure to give it the 2 levels of health regen for extra safety, felyne safeguard to restock when you die the first time without consequence and get that 1st fortify as well, and for escaton judgement astera jerky AND sushi fish scales if you have them (warning that it takes about 26 minutes like this but it's doable), oh also give your palico the meowlotov tools,oh and i almost forgot get the spare shot charm, it will be a huge difference in this
Yeah it's ironic that some of the best equipment to kill him with is his own! I'll share my LBG builds with you all soon as well. Mean time, good luck farming the materials and help out your fellow hunters who are struggling!
Jandabear always coming through with that good info😉
I try 😉
I know I’m super late but thank you so much for this I finally got my first solo kill on him because of this video ❤️❤️
Well done on your clear :)
now this is useful information, need to rework my LBG to make sure i get the crit power i will need
It's good to see your video again. I thought you had quit MH:I after not having seen any new video for a long while.
Thanks and nah i've just been very busy in real life between moving house and other things but hopefully i can get things on a more regular schedule. I was also stuck without internet for a while and the move was already planned before the pandemic hit so there was no turning back for me at that point.
Love you're builds they are what keeps me playing
Thanks! I enjoy making them and putting them into practice to see if they work or not. Did you get your clear on this yet?
@@Jandabeargaming nope still get my ass handed by it lol but I was sooooo damn closed tho
Don't give up and consider making specialised online sessions for others to join you. If you are relying on SOS then you will have some tough times ahead.
Thank you so much for this guide. I never knew about ice/fire lbg, I'll try this build out!
Great video run down! After seeing videos of speed runs i didnt really understand what I was up against. This gives me hope for my average mh skills T^T
Glad I could help! Don't read too much into speed-runners as they can often set unrealistic expectations. What you also don't see with a speed-runner's upload is the countless times they failed or got bad times so had to re-run over and over again. I sometimes speed-run for my own entertainment but i put my energy into putting up builds that most players would enjoy.
Nice attention to details when showcasing the HH ( played a song to show how the horn sounds) and the set itself ( showed it with and without pigments so you can see which parts can be dyed) . The LBG from Ala alone is almost enough to flinch him in a 4man hunt , however people are carting from the normal attacks too , so WR+Ala HH (ele dmg boost + ele effectiveness ) OR the Ala LBG + Safi set , are my set up- choices .
Glad the editing is appreciated as it takes a lot of time in "sony vegas pro 16". If anyone else has good editing software they recommend then i'd be interested in trying it out. Yeah his normal attacks can hit hard but personally i found it easy to evade him on LBG and as for DB's you just feel invincible. Love my HH's though and cant wait to share more builds for them!
I use alatreon HH to make sure my team pass element dps check. It works well, usually topple him in 2-3 min mark. Long before he switch to dragon element. The problem then goes to survive his normal attack, you know, randoms.
HH being 1 of my main weapons i concur that it's completely awesome to support friends still struggling with this 👍
As always very good informations and nice builds for the fight. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
400+ likes without a single dislike? Awesome content as always.
Ruh oh! Don't jinx me scooby!
Thank goodness for an actual quality guide, this monster is kicking my butt only cause of Judgement. I've straight up run out of materials (for once) trying different weapons so I can meet the Dps check. I don't know if it's just me, but it feels like after you get that first dps check to pop getting that second one is significantly harder. I swear with lance I can get it in a few minutes easy but I don't see a second one it'll I'm 10+ minutes into the fight, long after it's first Judgement.
So far my best chance had been Lance, but holy poop it's like capcom hates anyone using a shield for its intended purpose. If you don't run max guard you may as well not even bother counter lancing let alone trying to counter claw. Everything eats an unholy amount of stamina otherwise, heck even with max guard it's still hellish to manage depending on the attack.
That LBG look's disgustingly powerful I can't wait to craft and max that.
Escatons Judgement isn't the best of mechanics they have decided to put in a MH game and yeah some weapons will undoubtedly struggle more than others. I do miss the times in monster hunter games where a hunt was challenging due to the monster and it's entire move-set rather than 1 mechanic/skill being the deciding factor but Capcom seem to want to go that way and i can live with it since the rest of the fight itself is fun. The LBG is totally worth it and you should aim to get it made asap. It will help with subsequent clears.
I've tried many weapons on him already and from my personal experience i prefer dodging him to blocking but i see no reason why all weapons wouldn't be able to clear this solo given the right build/practice to maximise dps for the check.
No kidding, I had quit playing mmo's in general cause endgame stuff like enrage timers/ dps checks just isn't fun to me. Behemoth I accepted cause mmo crossover what else was I supposed to expect, Safi it wasn't actually hard to hit the dps check so long as everyone stays fairly close and it was a brief moment to catch your breath and sharpen/heal, but alatreon is just straight up we took an mmo mechanic now die and/ or waste healing resources. At this rate I'd rather be forced to wait for a monster to wake up from a nap so i can fight it, ala rathalos from the very first first game, then this as type of mechanic. This fight is what makes it so bitter sweet, cause Aside Judgement, I love this fight and that one move is souring it something fierce for me though I'm sure once it get the elemental dps check down I'll be in the same boat.
I wouldn't be surprised if i can already make the LBG, I've failed for multiple days snagging what drops and parts the cat's stolen. I might just do that honestly.
Yeah like the past few dps check monsters it's just a matter of time before the majority of the community gets it down myself included. It's just a little jarring that safi was fun, and alatreon is souring at least for me at this moment.
I don't agree with Capcom having added this type of mechanic into the game as i believe it is artificial difficulty and easy to overcome when you know how. I sometimes miss the hunts of older MH games where the whole fight itself was challenging and didn't rely on cheap 1HKO mechanics. Other than this 1 thing that is holding players back from beating him, i think the fight is awesome and well done to Capcom. I think we are likely to see more mechanics like this added in the remaining updates the game has left along with any future MH console game coming out so we may as well make our peace with it 🤷♀️
If they Monster hunter-fied the mechanic I wouldn't be bothered by it. like If you have a lance/ HBG with 3-4 shield mods and guard up user everyone can Brace that hunter for less damage taken, gunlance/ HBG with 2 shield mods can be braced with two hunters and S&S/ HBG with 1 Shield mod can be braced with one other. It promotes teamwork, it would be less punishing for the team as a whole, and it would help counter not meeting the dps check in another way. It eventually wouldn't need to be said( they could even throw an ingame tip if you have those specific users in your party), like how even now with Judgement, mear days after alatreon, people will group up in pubs cause of health booster nothing said. I love this fight and i hate hating it cause of one bad mechanic. hopefully in the future they make it less horrible
I've been reading forums/reddit and the such and from what i can tell, generally the Japanese public have enjoyed this type of new mechanic so i don't know what that means going forward for the franchise. It is what it is unfortunately and it definitely is dividing opinion amongst the player-base.
I don’t remember how many times I died while trying multiplayer. Lastly decided to play solo and after 3rd attempt I finally killed it. So far got 2 more win from multiplayer. My favorite weapon is LBG. Emmm, look like a shaver 🤣
It does look like a shaver now that you pointed it out 😂
It's shocking how easy he is in solo.
So i made your lbg build with alatreon lbg but i dont have your release/vitality jewels so i had to work around that now i can get closer to beating him
Keep at it and good luck!
Thanks got the last piece of armor last night boy i am glad i showed my wife the build but she is still on the special assignment of it
I was struggling as I’m not even MR 100 yet so augmenting most of my gear is neigh impossible, but an Evasion DB build worked like a charm. You can’t die if you are in constant I-frame not to mention you are pumping out insane dps
Congrats on your win! I do feel though the MR requirement of only 24 on this is very misleading to players who might be newly joining Iceborne. Should have been at least MR100+
@@Jandabeargaming Yeah Alatreons base attacks hit like a goddamn freight train and he is pretty aggressive when you are trying to pop a flare for help, This might be my favorite incarnation of him though, totally a different fight from the OG from Tri on Wii, (RIP medium bowguns)
I just miss his old arena with the moonlit backdrop but otherwise he is implemented very well in MHW.
The Alatreon hunting horn is the best hunting horn for this quest, high raw, high element, Lots of purple sharpness, positive affinity, and all the elemental boost songs you could ever want.
A lot of Alatreon's weapons are best for hunting him but that won't help the players who need to beat him the first time around :) Once you beat him the first time, you should succeed more often there-after.
hey we missed you and thanks for the vid
Hey, thanks and nice to see you are still around in the MH community :)
It was recently discovered by dataminers that the dps check is treated like status buildup, and he gains resistance after each one. So subsequent judgment weakenings are harder to reach. Fortunately working towards the buildup happens immediately after you trigger it, so it's not like you have to start all over again after he uses his nova.
It was also discovered that each weapon has a different modifier that contributes to this threshold. So in theory it should be balanced between all the weapons since the ones with better elemental attacks have to do more elemental damage, and weaker ones like GS and hammer need to do less elemental damage to trigger the DPS check.
In practice though I feel like they need to slightly tweak some of the values since for certain weapons it's just way too hard, even if you counter build and play well. It's just not consistent. I try DB (a weapon I barely play) and think he's super easy but then try gunlance (my second most used melee weapon) and can't clear the DPS check once.
If you're having trouble, use ICE or FIRE and make sure you break the head. Dragon has elemental hitzone values of ONE when he is in dragon and ice form, meaning your dragon damage will be reduced to 1% power. Fire and ice on the other hand do good damage even when he's in dragon form.
I know it's frustrating when you fail the dps check, but I feel like it's ok, personally. This guy should be super super hard because he's supposed to be a black dragon with the power to eradicate civilizations. By all means fighting him should be suicide lol
I would agree on that the elemental damage is indeed like a "bar" that you "fill up" in order to cause the stagger or horn break. This much is true. The only thing that does not add up for me and others i know would be dragon in his ice or dragon form only dealing 1% of the intended damage to his "bar". If that were the case then there would be pretty much zero chance of me soloing him on dragon based weapons (so far ive done it with DB's, HH, Longsword and Charge Blade) and weakening his judgement.
Without a doubt though getting that elemental dps threshold is easiest on fire and ice weapons depending on what active state he is in but some of the findings from these data-miners doesn't add up with my own experience. It is easier on some weapons that others so the info on some weapons having varying modifiers is up still up in the air unless we see some concrete evidence.
I think in a large part his difficult comes down to how players have been conditioned to fighting monsters up until now. Alatreon clearly shook things up a bit and the player-base along with it. All in all i can say that he is 100% soloable with any of the elements on his weakness chart that i show in the video. Best of luck guys and don't give up! It's a fun fight and it'll be interesting to see what monster they add next to upstage him (not including Frostfang).
Glad I have seen this, I'd over looked the Soulfire Rasp LBG.
Yeah it's been a while since we needed an elemental shot LBG for something. It's nice till you get Alatreon's made!
@@Jandabeargaming I can rarely be bothered with elemental LBG builds, it's so much effort trying to maintain high stocks of the ammo and the crafting components.
2:35 Ah, the elusive Release/Vitality Jewel, my nemesis.
Will definitely try that LBG though. Went into the Assignment with the Frostshot, but that thing was useless if the horn didn't break.
Yeah it's definitely better going in with the more versatile "Blaze" and once you beat him craft Alatreon's LBG instead to have access to all elements rapid-fire.
@@Jandabeargaming Took a dozen or so more tries, but I got him. Immediately had enough materials to make and upgrade the LBG. Really nice weapon.
Also really dig the look and sound of the Hunting Horn. Shame there's no Attack Up XL on there.
Yeah agreed the HH songs aren't the ones i would want most but it's still an amazing one to have in your collection! Also congrats on beating it :)
Thanks for this, solod in under 30 mins
Seriously, thank you 😊
Good as always, really love your builds! Hope to see soon a build for the at namielle too
Thanks but i already posted a video explaining some builds and tactics for AT Nam already before this video went up. Check the channel :)
This was so helpful for me. Thank you!
I always enjoyed your video and your voice. I never say thanks. Thanks for putting all the MHW content.
I appreciate that, ty.
When you were firing the flaming & freeze ammo you were able to fire 4 times before reload. For me it's only 3. How do you add the extra shot?
"Ammo-up" skill to increase the clip size and "Spare-shot" skill to give a chance for ammo not to be consumed meaning less reloads.
Yep, I'm taking the tough cookie build Thanks !
Good luck! :D
The biggest problem I have as a GS user is dealing damage without being caught up in an attack; GS is naturally very slow. This is more of a problem when I try to solo. I have fought him off with a group of randos.
The problem is, I don’t really have much experience with other weapons and dodging/evading in this game doesn’t make much sense to me. I can’t figure out the exact moment one is supposed to dodge.
Honestly for solo if you don't wanna worry about breaking horns using dragonbone weapons fully augmented for element with 1 augment for affinity you'll have like 900+ Dragon that's how I finely did it anyway.
Dragon weapons are more than capable of killing him although there seems to be some bad info out there and people think it's impossible or the horns must be broken, both of which are wrong of course. Well done on your win :)
Jandabear, thank you for the excellent video as always. Have you heard anything about a glitch where power barrel DOES NOT work with elemental ?i've been seeing that crop up in some of the comments on other streamers sites?? Or has anyone else noticed this. thanks
You're welcome for the video. As for the "glitch" in my thousands of hours and so many of them on my Bowguns (both HBG and LBG) which are some of my main weapons i can't say i've ever come across such a bug. I will however say that there is a difference in the timing of the "tics" as they are known for when a bullet passes through a monster part and depending on how Capcom have created the hitboxes for the skeleton it could come across as power-barrel not working as intended. This is made all the harder to detect if the monster is moving and flailing around. I wouldn't pay much heed to such rumours unless someone can provide me with solid video evidence, i'll just put it down to user error.
Now that ive beaten him several times and crafted his whole set both gauntlets and several of his weapons i cant wait for the summer festival and frostfang barrioth
Congrats on Alatreon and yeah i'm looking forward to it!
I've been at this for 3 days straight and i still haven't completed the special assignment once in solo or multiplayer i keep getting teams that just dont do enough elemental dmg and the fact that i play gs dosen't help. I've done the quest so many times if it wasn't for the wings i could make multiple full sets of alatreon armor just from plunder blade
GS isn't perhapsd the most friendly weapon on this hunt but the elemental damage values were modified for this quest specifically by Capcom so you shouldn't be at a disadvantage. Make sure your Gs is of high elemental value and also i woudl suggest playing with a "Critical Draw"+"Quick Sheathe" build which is what i do on my GS for faster moving monsters that lets me line up powerful draw attacks. You won't always get the chance to pull of a true charge slash combo without abundant slinger ammo reliance.
How are you able to clutch claw onto him without getting thrown off? I need the temporal mantle for that and even with it I rarely get to stay on.
Certain attacks he does give more opportunity for larger clutch windows than others. The more you clutch him the more you will learn which ones give the best chance.
It's not the escaton judgement system that annoys me, but the amount of material grinding you have to do for augmentations and mods to be reliable efficient.
I'm trying to solo Alatreon but I don't know how to prevent it from changing element after I've broken both horns, can someone tell me what to do then?
You don't need to break horns to weaken the judgement but if you are soloing it then go with the stronger elemental option (ice is a good choice). Only break 1 horn per judgement so as to space it out and even after both horns are done you will still have plenty feints to fall back on and you should get it killed. Equipping fortify and eating for "Felyne Insurance" will serve to increase the lives you have to kill it. Good luck!
Thank you so much .. I didn't know about that lbg. I do have a saffi frost but short of material to augment. I will try this now 😉
Save you safi materials for other weapons for now and when you beat this guy, craft his LBG instead, it's pretty awesome!
How about non safi/kulve/fatalis gear?
I'm still trying to get this complete.
Keep at him. Once you know what move he is throwing your way it becomes easier to find your windows of attack to meet the elemental dps checks. Good luck and take your time.
What's the best alternative armour for the LBG build? I don't have Safi stuff.
I'm dropping a video later today showing Alatreon's LBG but there are several builds within the video so you can pick one from there and use it with the "blaze". Keep your eyes peeled on the the channel!
what layered pants is she using?
I struggling hard on him lol, not gonna give up gonna try every weapon and see what works best.
Did you solo it with the blaze lbg? I found that lance is good element but i think laks raw i lockd him 3 times and broke both horns 20min in and he was still alive then i mesd up i carted thinking he was in ice mode came with fire and couldn't lock him up and nova time
Yes i've soloed him several times on LBG already and the "Blaze" made it really easy with the dual elements to meet his weakeness every time and then i went ahead and made Alatreon's LBG which has all elements on rapid-fire.
Wouldn't using Furor to get resentment be better than blaze jewels as it give a boost to raw damage as well since Safi Jiva armor keeps you in red?
I'm assuming you are referring to the LBG set as i had a resentment build for the melee sets already. Personally i would not recommend using resentment jewels over elemental as the dps check itself relies purely on amount of elemental damage dealt. Raw only contributes to bringing his HP down whereas elemental is for both the checks and killing it. You could add in resentment into the glider mantle instead if you wanted but keeping up maximum element is truly key to this.
@@Jandabeargaming oh sorry I thought its for both, yes yes makes sense now. I'll try the LBG build, got alatreon LBG, or is Safi LBG better? I never used LBG so I'm not familiar with them (T_T)
If you have access to Alatreon's LBG then you should definitely go for that but if you are not used to playing with the weapon then i suggest taking a look at some of my other LBG videos to get some understanding on "Gun-mods" otherwise you will have bad times. The melee builds are pretty durable though if you are struggling.
Jandabear Gaming thanks I’ll give it a shot later...hopefully I’ll solo it successfully as most of the randoms are joining with Blast 🤦🏻♂️
I had this problem also with randoms joining with raw or blast weapons thanks to some UA-camrs out there giving poor advice and not having the decency to retract it.
I try alatreon with almost the same build and only weak two nova and rest the fight kill me with the others novas wha im doing wrong?
Are you making sure to get the message from the handler by weakening him in time for every nova? As shown here what the handler says 0:35
@@Jandabeargaming yes for two novas weak and the rest of the fight I cant do enough element damage and death. my mistake my set is different
From yours. Ask lbg From set the works is almost all element and one defence in augment?
Make sure to DPS nonstop. Don't try to aim for his horns or tail only. Fire at him without trying to line up perfect shots. You will meet the dps check if you follow that method and make sure your elemental damage is capped like i showed in video.
A good counter build is 3 pieces of Safi + 2 pieces of Golden Rathian + Kjarr Ice Dual Blades. That's how I defeated him the first time
Congrats on your win and yeah having extra levels of divine blessing secret is handy if you need it.
I've been trying so many different ice builds but sometimes I just can't hit that dps check. :')
Personally I'm not too comfortable with dual blades and I can't fight Lunastra so back to the drawing board to me. Gonna keep trying with my sucky insect glaive builds lol.
What is it about Luna that you struggle with? Perhaps i might have some good advice to share.
@@Jandabeargaming her blastscourge is my big bad. If I make my own builds I like to always have health boost 3, free meal secret and gobbler these days. I fell in love with kulve taroths gear after the event and is finding it hard to change to anything else. I'm not exactly the best at avoiding attacks even though I mostly play Insect Glaive so I tend to rely on the seemingly endless healing items with free meal secret. Other than those I usually try to max attack and/or critical. I find it hard to fit in anti blastscourge in my builds basically. I tend to rely on other people's builds honestly because the ones I make just arent very fun but at the same time I'm too much of a coward to make something different.
If you really enjoy the build you run then i suggest taking glider mantle and putting anti-blast jewels in it and as your 2nd tool take the fire-proof mantle which has anti-blast built into it. They should both be up most of the time if you switch between them as 1 runs out and blastscourge should be less of an issue for you. Also use my astera jerky method to heal through the super nova. You should beat her no problem with a bit of practice after that.
@@Jandabeargaming thank you for being so helpful I really appreciate it!
i have 2 out 3 release/vitality is this something i can put in to replace rng has not been kind to me
Do you have another release jewel that is combined with a 2nd skill? The "free meal" and "resistor" jewel are ones you can afford to give up but you really need the full level of "ammo up" jewel to get the extra clip-size. IF HP is a problem then consider dropping 1 elemental damage jewel to get it to 3/3.
thx u
Hey mimikins my wife is having problems with beating the special assignment of alatreon i have tried to help her with it so many times but with no success i have even played on her account to help her out but still no luck we play on xbox though. I would like your opinion on her build for alatreon if you dont mind and also she doesnt have that many decos as well.
You would need to share your build/weapon/decos etc with me either in the comments here or via a link to an image upload site so i can give advice.
Oh Janda, thank you so much. ❤❤
Any time!
excellent build as always, 100%
Thanks! Which build is it you opted for though?
@@Jandabeargaming the LBG fire and ice ammo build : ), more comfty and much easier to play with
It's a fairly safe way to go and i've done runs with all 4 players having LBG's. Needless to say we absolutely decimated him 🤣
Hi can u make video on a potential alatreon's bow and lbg?
The LBG video is already in the works and the bow video will come later also 😉
Great guide Mimikins 👍 from me and Hector.
Glad you enjoyed it Hector! Hope you get your win :)
How many of each augment do you use?
long time no see :)
Hello there 😃
nice. mimikins wit the assist. might use that lbg build. thanksss
No problem 👍
Another good video,thank you for this its helpful
Glad it was helpful! 😃
Does dragon element work on decreasing his ecaton judgment?
All elements work on on him so long as you are getting the message from the handler to say he was weakened like i show in the video. Check the chart in the video to see which element is most potent depending on his active states.
@@Jandabeargaming Already beat him! Having evasion window max really helps.
Depending on your weapon of choice, "Evasion Window" can be awesome. Once you have learned his moves and can dodge without thinking on it much then you should replace it with more DPS or a utility skill of another nature. Congrats on your win :)
The gun build dint work for me
w8ing for ur build of the LBG .. 😊
Fun times head with that gun! 😁
Out of curiosity, what leggings overrode is that
I'm assuming you are referring to the "Yukumo" outfit which was part of the Iceborne pre-order bonus but there are a couple of different outfits in this video so let me know if that wasn't the one you were seeking.
Jandabear Gaming the ones shown at around 2:03
Yes that was the Yukumo layered armor which i got for pre-ordering Iceborne. Unsure how to get it now, perhaps someone else in the comments can see this and answer that part.
Jandabear Gaming thank you very much for the information 🙂
Is there other LBG that have elemnt fire and ice than safi LBG ?
The one used in this video is the Lunastra weapon tree. It's not a Safi weapon so you can craft it any time you have farmed luna.
Any long sword builds? I’m struggling to come up with a good one.
The melee builds used for the DB's here are very usable for long sword also (except for the marathon runner skill). You could change up that piece of armor to add in a skill of your choice and run with an elemental LS. What you go with also kinda depends on if you play solo or group.
Jandabear Gaming any long sword weapon suggestions? I’m trying to do the special assignment. He starts in fire mode I tried velkhanas and I’m getting carted left and right thanks janda!
Velkhana's Longsword is ok but i would recommend the "Apsara Glacia" from the legiana tree as a crafted option otherwise you would need to see if you were lucky enough to get your hands on a Kjarr ice one and upgrade it to master rank levels. Even the "Mammoth Longblade II" from the Banabaro tree is an excellent choice if you can release the element on it and run with "mind's eye" jewel to prevent blue sharpness from bouncing off Alatreon. The fact that this one is also rarity 10 means you can augment it heavily with slots and skills.
Jandabear Gaming thanks for the suggestions janda! I’ll try it out.
Good luck!
if anyone can help me,whici long sword is the best for each element?(thanks in advance)
Generally speaking without going into super detail, if you have any of the MR Kulve Kjarr weapons, they are very good and have critical element built in. If you don't have them you will need to go for some crafted options but which element in particular are you seeking?
@@Jandabeargaming i want to have like the main elements like fire,ice,dragon,thunder,water bcs it will be easier to beat a specific monster with x weakness element
Is it craftable versions you are seeking?
@@Jandabeargaming yes
Give the "Apsara Glacia" from the legiana tree a try. The "Mammoth Longblade II" from the Banabaro tree is an excellent choice if you can release the element on it and run with "mind's eye" jewel to prevent blue sharpness from bouncing off Alatreon. Being a rarity 10 weapon means you can augment it with a lot of slots and skills. Try to look for other Long Swords that are in a similar light to these ice ones such as Anja Direfang for fire etc. Hope this gives you some ideas.
took me 7 hours on the first day, day 2 went better and day 3... im farming him like he's great jagras
This isn't even your final form!
How do you beat him when you ran lut of ammo?
Bring fire herbs and snow herbs with you. Each herb crafts 6 bullets so that's another 120 bullets for each ammo type meaning even without spare-shot skill you have 180 fire and 180 ice shots at your disposal in total. Use the settting for "craft all" in the radial menu to instantly top off missing amounts. You should then never run out of shots before he runs out of HP. Good luck.
What augments do you have on the lbg?
Augments used were shown in the video here at 2:35 which are health regen and element increase.
can you make a guide on fatalis
I'll post up my tips if some of you are struggling with him. Keep an eye out here!
Do you have some advise for a SnS support player? I haven't played for a while, I'm a bit out... Thanks for this good manual and nice too see you are back with a lot of more content 😊🤗
The core skills for survival and dps are the same in that you should be looking to cap out elemental damage for your chosen element against him. Depending on if you are solo or with others speed eating with recovery up will top you off quickly. Wide range charm can be taken to support team mates. Blight resist can be a godsend here unless you want to rely on nulberries. Divine blessing can be helpful but not needed if you are good with timing attacks and blocking accordingly. These are some basic tips and the rest is just building sets around those core ideas.
Alatreon is here xD
Question - WHAT is that background music? It sounds sooo familiar but I can't place it :)
Awesome video as always :) thank you Mimikins
It's Frozen Voices. Here's a link: ua-cam.com/video/gqRah-cUlc4/v-deo.html
@@Jandabeargaming thank you!
New Mimikins video \o/
Great video, damn those release vitality decos, they are so hard to get 😭
Good luck with them. Check out the steam works for the tickets that you can trade to the elder melder for a chance at better jewels.
Is the Alatreon LBG better than this one?
Without a doubt but the one shown here is amazing to farm him with until you get Alatreon's.
Great work. I like ur vids since AT kirin guide. Very noob-friendly to someone like me :)
Happy to hear that you find them useful :) Good luck with him!
This is a good guide. Too bad I suck so bad trying to fight it. I tried different builds and I just lack the skill to ever beat it. I guess I have to be okay with that.
This video my be 3 years ago but it just helped me kill Alatreon today. Thank you!
Thanks for the tips, nice to here a familiar accent 😁
No problem 👍
I desperately need a clear of this special assignment if anyone can help...let me know.
Are you on ps4? If so I can help
I'll probably make some rooms for this fight over the coming week to help some friends so i might see some of you there!
Mom: i made extra tough 🍪s for you today 😃
Son: i needed to make it as a build.. In game 💀
I prefer my cookies soft and a little gooey on the inside!
My experience Wednesday Night/Thursday morning was awful. So many carts lol 😂 but we were trying to brute force it with Blast weapons. Using the Kjarr Ice proved to be the deciding factor lol 😂 very fun fight
Congrats on your win and please help spread the advice that going in with blast/raw weapons is just asking to be spanked by his ultimate 😂
I've watched many of your vids. I should have subscribed a long time ago. I will try this out. Switchaxe is to slow. I get punished before I can get my weapon put away. I'm like 0-50 fighting this monster...smh.
Switchaxe is a good weapon for this fight (it's 1 of my favorites) but i agree that it's a cumbersome weapon to use without some key skill changes. Putting your weapon away is a problem if you don't build around things like "evade extender" to help close gaps and pairing it with "evade window" for survivability. Give these builds a try first before deciding on what to modify within them to suite your own needs and good luck! 😃
@@Jandabeargaming Awesome. Thank you!
Put evade extender or evade window on your build and you will dance around him.
Also, where do I aim when using the gun? ( I already had a set I was using but it felt lackluster)
If you or someone else is wounding parts then aim along those otherwise try to aim through his head or tail to maximise the tics on elemental shots. It's far more important in this fight to be firing nonstop at him than to slow your dps down for the sake of lining up "perfect" shots.
I don't have Safi armor DX
Safi is out at the moment, what system are you on, I might be able to help you?
Safi is indeed available currently as Giantdad has stated although his equipment is not necessary to beat him, it is pretty ideal. Can be done with a mixture of gear if you are running the correct elements and attacking relentlessly.
@@Jandabeargaming I have pretty much the same skills, just not the safi set bonus xD
@@SeppukuAddict ps4 :o