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Well actually if use thunder element kinsect you can drain out the Alatreon energy no matter it is in ice active, dragon active or fire actice. Then, you can survive the supernova. FYI, bring health booster drain out the Alatreon energy with thunder kinsect, when Alatreon use the ultimate place your health booster and use your kinsect go attack Alatreon, lifesteal and the regen from health booster can keep you safe.
Have a question So the decis and such basically dont boost the kinsect at all, right? Cu I tried and couldn't topple him at all. And I was hitting his head a bunch of times
Wait, people are complaining about Golden Rathian as late game monster? :D Alatreon are one of the final monsters that the player face in MH games, those people are just adorable.
@agito 97 I managed to solo him too although I not really good at very strong monster in solo mode. Divine Blessing 5 is literally a divine blessing. Together with speedeating you can heal yourself up fast. Go try it out :)
Go look up kinsect only runs in 4u. Fatalis was one of the first monsters people tried it on thanks to its ridiculously high misreported 80 dragon hz on its head and the discovery that kinsects did 10x their display element instead of 1/10 like regular weapons. I've soloed most of the g rank quests with kinsect in that game and it also makes great "support" because kinsect is the best ko weapon in 4u, and can easily score 3 or 4 kos on a 5 minute hunt.
@@ConsOA On a completely unrelated note, I've been doing some testing, and it seems the full Alatreon set bonus actually very slightly out-does Safi mixed or otherwise, at least for dragon, and is way more defensive. Have you found similar results?
I FINALLY managed to beat this monster. Honestly I am ecstatic. It took me two attempts to do it. The first attempt I carted 4 times and I was at the 47 minute marker. The second attempt I decided to change to dragon element and actually managed to get through the whole fight while only carting once. I fainted to the third escaton judgement (which I swear is a lot harder to contain than the others). And then after he did about 6 escaton judgements, I beat him at the 41 minute mark. Thank you so much for this guide man. This was honestly keeping me up at night as I really wanted to not only beat him, but SOLO him. And I finally managed to do it after wasting so much of my time trying. For those of you that are still struggling with this fight, repeatedly going for the head is key because that will make sure he dies sooner. Don't stop going for his head even when both the horns break. And also always charge up your insect glaive after he does escaton judgement. Honestly the fact that this guide is out and he's STILL a pain in the ass shows how honestly unfair this fight is. I can understand how there are objectively well designed things about him, but at the same time I think the fact that it limits you to only certain play styles is objectively bad design. Anyway, great video mate!
@@Lucifer-hq5pe Sorry if this sounds rude, but you seem to be a little bit of jerk. I'm sorry this dude isn't a pro kill Alatreon in 2:30 player like TDS and sounds more like a casual player actually having fun with the game. Maybe instead of saying "you suck hard at this game" say "great job beating Alatreon" like an encouraging mhw player. Again sorry if this all sounds rude.
Plunderblade has a cap on how many times it can plunder. The blade itself is limited to 4, and the shinies it can drop are on the same counter as the shinies Alatreon drops on bang or elemental topple. You'll usually run out of new shinies after like 10 or so minutes, maybe 15.
What I've been doing is using shield spire because the dummy straight can distract monster for minutes and let you get free damage granted you still have to be careful because he can change aggro but it lets me get a guaranteed element flinch
A small heads up. If you aren't very accurate in hitting the head, you might run out of slinger ammo to boost your kinsect. (happened to me and Alatreon was just at 10% health) Having slinger capacity helps a lot.
Were you using the tenderise attack much? Like accidently wasting ammo? Because combined with the dragon pods ala drops it seemed like it would be enough, but honestly i never play kinsect without slinger up so im probably wrong
I'm using full MR KT set for the free meal spam, trading divine blessing level 5 for divine blessing 3 and speed eating 3. Using Laguna Glaive and Foliacath with opposing element to Alatreon, it does about 50ish damage per peck to the head and 60 damage per peck to the front arms. Targeting the front arms is a lot easier than the head. The only time I switch to head is when it's in Dragon Active. Also with every topple I use IG combos on it's head. Try to prioritize pecking the front legs and see how you fare and only ever tenderize it when you need more slinger ammo. Also, I don't even bother trying to flinch shot it as I tend to miss a lot and just waste the limited slinger ammo we have access to. (When it's in Dragon Active, Foliacath Ice/Fire does about 30ish damage per peck to the head and 39 damage per peck to the front leg.)
Tbh I had to try a lot of times but this was the way I finally managed to solo him. I think you can only call this "incredibly easy" as a veteran but it's true, once you get his movement pattern memorised, it's mostly about staying focused for that long. Took me 36 minutes and one more death than the run you did (got two transformations to ice) but I'm just glad I got this done. Thanks!
man, i just killed that ala today,using your method,your a genius, ive been doing more attempts, damage build,ele build,or def build but didnt work, but this time it work,how an old weapon beat that scumbag,while a rarity 12 weapon doesnt, the regen of rarity 10 is awesome, i didnt know that..
If you have the upgraded Behemoth glaive, you can actually get through ice active if you have an ice bug or fire active if you have a fire bug. Since the glaive does dragon damage, you can make use of it in the active mode where your kinsect is useless. This does require knowledge on how to use an IG but I've beaten Alatreon with no carts using this method. I save all my mounts for the phase where my kinsect is useless so when it goes back into dragon active I can spam it with my kinsect to deal enough element damage.
I actually killed quite a lot of elder dragons with my bug, always good for that tiny finishing blow. Thanks for the build and tips, man, finally managed to kill it.
This is a great strat, I came pretty close to making this work on my first try. Never used IG before, and I think once I learn a thing or two about how to get better damage out of the kinsect it will work. Went from struggling with the staggers and horn breaks to staggering twice and breaking both horns on the first attempt. Thanks for this. Like and subscribe for sure.
great work! sorry it didnt work first try, kinsect can take a little bit getting used to but im sure your next attempt will get it! And thanks for the sub, hopefully its worth it ^_^
Late to the party, but extremely eye opening. Its irritating that the game never directs you to tempered as part of progression. I've been struggling at Safi, and broken at Alatreon, and the game never said "you should be doing tempered." The handler has just been yelling at me to do safi, which I skirt by, and now she continuously tells me to do Alatreon. They are made available WAY to early, which confuses so many players. This is where all the "late game" complaints are from. So thanks for getting me on the correct progression path.
@@blackfish7736 did you remember to boost the kinsect with enemy ammo? That makes it deal real damage Also the strat is only using the kinsect in the dragon phase if you use Dragon kinsect, in the others its better to dps him with melee on the arms, I prefer Dragon element since that makes his novas a complete joke, if you play properly you will never die to Eschaton. Element boost is the bonus i recommend for even easier element checks
Thxs to you I finally beat em. I tried solo without the augment (didn't have the steamstones) Got very close survived 4 nova, but ended up failing. I joined a random and we did it in a pair. I used your blunt strategy with a ice element glaive. Same insect too. Thanks so much.
Damn... I lasted 43 minutes with Alatreon with this strategy but I failed... I think my accuracy might be the issue. I’ve used the insect Gaige before but I never exclusively used the kinsect only. I guess with some more practice, seems do-able. Edit: just beat Alatreon with a single random player. Completed in 25’50, good enough for me. Thanks for the strategy/build.
no problem, sorry it didnt work out for you. At 43 mins, it must have been on the brink of death for real. I shouldnt have assumed people would be as used to aiming kinsect as i am, and should have offered more ways to manage the dps. Sorry!
Wow! Definitely gonna try this. Still can’t beat it no matter what (tbh, I’m mostly just using long sword or great sword with randoms, gotta try some solo options because usually there’s at least 1 or 2 people who don’t seem to know the mechanic, which is fair enough). This is super interesting/helpful though, thank you!
No problem, though looking back I might have been overestimating how easy this is. You do need to be able to actually hit the thing with the kinsect semi consistently, but otherwise it's pretty hard to die until you run out of horn breaks and the element starts changing, at which point every second nova will take you out. Should be enough time if you're moderately okay at aiming the kinsect. Good luck! (Also i think the GS matchup is really good against this guy, so try soloing that and watching my coverage of that if you haven't already and need some help)
I just learned something in my fight. I do have my palico around and it got a sleep. If you drop all your poison smoke bombs, you can get a poison. Which means the same is true for fatalis as they both have an original threshold of 300.
Am here to say this actually works, granted it took me 40 minutes but its at least a guaranteed kill I tried doing the method of switching with fire and ice and it didnt work out so well, instead i used dragon element on the kinsect And i survived all novas, just focusing mainly on the head and forearms will get you to that dps goal
honestly, not to surprised this works, kinsects do insane damage in iceborne, though why they couldn't buff aerial ig instead will forever sadden me. Still great work cons!
;_; I tried this build and still got knocked down, flame hit, stunned, then wing hit to death 4 times. I’ve soloed every other monster in the game but.. maybe I’m just not as good at video games as I thought.
It is good to see someone make this video! The first time I fight Alatreon I ady build this IG to go and solo Alatreon. Well I see still gt many people blaming Alatreon is too difficult to fight solo or team fight, I was planing to make aa video to teach people this build lol
Ahhh I run out of time I nearly always hit his hat I always charged my kinsect I broke his Horns and weakend his EJ but he dont want to die And by the way i had the exame damage number as showed in the Video so what do i wrong
same build also ? personally i switched to another IG with element boost for the kinsect . that did the trick im also picking up IG for first time just for this .. and it helped me to change some hotkeys so its easier ( shift to aim for example ) and u have to just spam hit him as much as u can . when ur kinsect is almost out of stamina call it back then send it out like 3 times in a row . it will get back to full stamina in no time . also try ur best to always aim for the head if head is moving too much go for forelegs
I believe Alatreon is a nice lesson to the casual players who typically look for "one weapon for all" weapons. Now y'all can't rely on that, now you need to actually look at the weaknesses of a monster and plan for that. All I had to do was add in an element charm (fire or ice) and a high element weapon (LS Main) and his nova stopped being a problem.
Before Alatreon, most of the time the Raging Bracky IG was my "one weapon for all" ;-P Decent raw, native purple, no need of handicraft and has blast as an added bonus. That's the best combination for casual hunting.
As a Hunting Horn main through the series... I have never really settled on "One Weapon for all" as each horn had different songs to answer different fights. I didn't feel slighted when I was told I had to use an elemental weapon. I just laughed and busted out the Shrieking Legiana horn. Then later... the Safi Frosthorn with Elemental Song Up.... and now the fight is an utter joke as I smack in in the face with 1240 elemental damage or (124 damage before modifiers). True Crit element on that? And the bard becomes the hero of this tale.
I have something that I call my Four Horsemen. They're the four weapons that I mainly use for hunting and they all serve a unique purpose. Dual Blades for smaller and quicker monsters like the kulu yaku. Long sword for crowd control and slaying minor monsters in groups. Insect Glaive for monsters that like to stay in the air. And my charge blade for the more tankier and ground monsters. Helps to block and attack with swift or heavy movements.
Did it duo with evade savage axe charge blade with vaals cb max dragon and element eceleration and my teammate with alatrion (not final form) duel blades no element boost Still killed it
lmao tried this twice today took 32 and 39 minutes for me to die... good tank build tho and its sad to cause i was one flinch shot away from victory on attempt 2
I cant beat him. The insect G got me closer but every judgement move except the first one kills me. I drop him like three times with elemental and break his horns but his judgements kill me every time.
What about making the kinsect Dragon? The damage in dragon active should be high enough to get the topple, but you won't be disadvantaged by phase changes.
its weird because iirc multi alatreon only has double health, and its front legs are great hitzones, so it should be perfect for 4 player lobbies. randoms gonna random i guess
Does anyone know if this still works? I've been trying to do this strat with similar damage (i can only get my kinsect to do 60 damage at a time) but the thing doesn't die,
Slinger ammo + kinsect combo is new to me. Didn’t knew that they buffed kinsect damage by a lot. Are there any other weapons that got boosted by different type of slinger ammos? I know that different ammos has different damage, but to affect weapon? It’s super new to me even though I’ve reached mr 100+
I used your technique with slight modification. I used Runier Negi IG with Foliacath III forz with element Ice/Fire. I used the kinsect to meet the first dps check, then used IG to break horns. Only cart twice, but that because I'm still learning the positionals. Thank you Cons. You help me crack the black dragon. 👍🤜🤛🙏
Would working in palico rally and wide range to buff your cat help with damage output? I have a support build that is just this but with palico and wide range.
Can someone give me a bit of advice? I use hammer I know his moves I'm using full safi b set with 500 ice element from the velkhana hammer but no matter how much I hit him he doesn't do his animation to know you have weakened the nova any advice?
stack ele up skills over damage up ones if you havent already, and icr if velk gets purple but definitely get it if it does, its a big boost to ele damage otherwise, if you know the moves REALLY well and are great with hammer, run pure raw for that big dps, and just tank the carts (if you're playing solo) and kill it before the third
i got to try IG for the first time .. just to beat this absurd damage check boss . such a stupid mechanic . anyway IG is pretty awesomely fun >.> edit : holy crap it worked >.> u have no idea how good this is .. as a first time IG user .. i was finally able to solo that stupid monster its sooo good i swear i made so many builds for this stupid fight : SnS , hammer , LS , LBG . lance half of these im not good at even .. and wasted so much mats making these builds .. thx so much for sharing this awesome cheese build
You sir... Gave me hope... And I'm crying while writing it, because I did the same as you, I made LS, IG, DB, LBG, HBG, LANCE, BOW I don't understand when people say "git gud" if mission says "you have 40min to take it down" I expect to have 40 min, not 6 until he nuke me out of my misery
I'm so confused the only thing I'm missing are the health arguments but I'm still only hitting the head 96% of the time and its still not working??? (Starting to really think im just meant to never beat it, at this point his stuff doesn't matter to me, I just want to beat it.) (Also I did every other monster in the game solo with ease (aside from Safi) so I dont know whats wrong??????)
oh btw you can farm ala with ghille mantle and plunder blade. make sure you equip ghillie before enter the ring. farcaster, repeat and return from the quest.
What about a dragon kinsect + elemental boost? Is it possible that way to reduce the damage of the novas even after you broke both horns? Since Alatreon takes elemental damage from dragon in all 3 modes, even if it is reduced to 1*(fire and ice) and 2*(dragon)
his hitzones in element for dragon are like 2% in ice and fire and 9% in dragon mode (something along those lines) It really doesn't work. With dragon dualblades I have a lot of trouble weaking his nova
This is what I do. While slower, I can meet the element dps check before every nova, even after both horns are gone. So then it just becomes a game of patience....hunts take 40+ minutes doing it this way.
Idea: if you can use a fire element kinsect with ice element glaive or vice versa, you can dual element it surely? That way you have an option either element!
yup this is definitely possible, in fact i was going for a run of exactly that just before checking through the comments section haha ^_^ you just drop all the defensive skills to play regular glaive style, and in exchange you get to always be able to de-nova, it's a really nice trick. unfortunately i struggle to do enough damage with the regular glaive lol
Cons OA Sweet! Thanks for replying man you made my day! I’m a glaive main so I think I’m gonna give this a shot tomorrow! I agree on the damage problem - the problem with the glaive on the whole is that it’s highest motion values tend to come at the end of the combos, which with a fast moving monster like Alatreon makes it pretty difficult to get those high damage numbers! I think with a combination of Rocksteady Mantle and Perhaps vitality with Gaia’s Veil might allow the full combos to finish and get the required damage, that’s gonna be my strategy at least!
@@Parceloader yeah it seems like we have the same problem lol. I think i need to downward thrust more, and get better at preemptively starting my tornado slashes. That said, i was using a meta glaive with no ele skills to see if i could get a great time. If you stack ele up on a decent glaive, it should be fairly easy but idk
NRool glaives with the old health augment are level 6 and have very low attack. I would not rely on them. If you dont need the health regen, then yes. You can for example use kjarr glaives with element boost.
Yeah if you arent doing kinsect only, but struggle to take ala out before it enters bad phases, this would definitely help Cos i was doing kinsect only, i prioritised finding a nice base world glaive with blunt boost and 3 aug slots
@@ConsOA and now i just beat it for 1st time using your strat. Except i actually used the chromeglaive iii. Managed to get quite a few drops from the sever boost
Thanks for the tips. You essentially run with two elemental damage types. I brought a KJAR ice insect glaive to and use the fire kinsect when he is in ice mode. The only downside is the lower kinsect damage due having no blunt boost on this glaive. However you can compensate for wailing medieval style during his fire phase.
@@albal156 I think I got lucky with a HR Kulve run. Maybe you can try the Elder melder and spam HR Kulve materials. That's how I got my Kjarr Ice LS. The Kjarr rng with both the melder and monster is terrible so I feel your pain.
Gleambeetle seems better than Foliacath, which I've always used. If that thing misses it's mark, it's zipped out of range already before you can call it back. The slower speed of the Gleambeetle seems to work in favor if you don't have aimbot accuracy like me.
Thanks. I think this is causing me to lose a lot of dps with the bug, as I've noticed it'll literally go to the other side of the map randomly sometimes. I'll try out a Gleambeetle tongiht and see if the slower speed works out.
I've had Alatreon go through 5 Escatons (with the 5th ending me permanently). I thought I was doing tons of damage. Clearly, I was wrong. It pisses me off, because I am constantly going ham with reckless abandon... but, Alatreon BSes me out of wins... it's like his health is infinite when I fight him. And if I call in help? The mooks attack everything BUT the horns. So. Yeah... 40+ attempts. All failures. I HATE Alatreon. He was NEVER this difficult. There was no need to boost his difficulty by 10x. I despise losing to BS mechanics.
Wouldn't spamming the aerial attack (making the kinsect attack from air to ground, piercing the who monster) be more effective? When I do it with the 20 element 19 attack 7 speed (can't remember the name but max damage + slowest possible for more ticks) it deals a crazy amount of damage through Alatreon, unless he runs around, but I guess it's not as safe as running around spamming the kinsect
Palico rally 5, meowcano, take opposite element for palico. Palico makes it a bit more random for movement, but I didn't need to eat a cart from judgement at all.
niceee, that must have been really quick then! i would have taken cat too but i wanted this to be purely kinsect in future. i have some cat optimisation for this run on the way tho, so keep an eye out ;)
@@ConsOA my aim with kinsect is barely decent and I was using element boost, still took about 30 minutes. I think I'll farm up materials for a blunt boost glaive and give it another try to see if that improves the time.
This is how I beat him for the first time! Took me a couple of tries but thank you!! Any tips on how to break the wings? I need 4 to get the full armour set.
Try running the event quest with randoms instead of the special assignment now you have killed it. I cleared it 4 or 5 times with randoms today running a wide range/free meal secret/speed eating build. The event quest players were easily doing enough damage to stop the nova. All I did was soften up the back legs, help them break the horns when he fell down and heal/buff.
I thought i replied to this but i guess not? Anyway i think you get wings from just carving or rewards. I never broke em and i had enough for the set after only like 5 or 6 kills
if the builds are really the same (just recommending to triple check just in case maybe your kinsect isnt fully upgraded?) then you might not be buffing/charging your kinsect. @1:25 Cons explains how to do it. You know you have it if you see the red square to the right of your 3 kinsect buffs and kinsect stamina bar on the top left. NOT to be confused with the red diamond attack buff that takes the 1st of the 3 kinsect buff slots. Also, you need monster drop slinger ammo so dragon pods and thorn pods are the only ones ive seen in the Alatreon fight. Other possibility is that youre using fire element kinsect when Alatreon starts in fire mode? (OR using ice element kinsect when its starting in ice mode but that doesnt happen with the special assignment) Cant think of anything else atm. Hope this helps!
Dracov covered it perfectly, thanks for that! Sorry for not giving that point the attention it deserved, i was worried i spent too long without showing gameplay so rushed through a bit haha
Tbh, I am 200mr full fatalis set+weapon, Slayed fatalis 20 times 5 solo not that much, but alatreon man I don't know I hate it, whereas fatalis fight is the best fight of iceborne the pressure at the third phase omg I am addicted.
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Sweet thanks!!
Well actually if use thunder element kinsect you can drain out the Alatreon energy no matter it is in ice active, dragon active or fire actice. Then, you can survive the supernova. FYI, bring health booster drain out the Alatreon energy with thunder kinsect, when Alatreon use the ultimate place your health booster and use your kinsect go attack Alatreon, lifesteal and the regen from health booster can keep you safe.
Thanks I really needed this. I prefer teams but I can get the armor and weapons first and work on teams later.
Have a question
So the decis and such basically dont boost the kinsect at all, right? Cu I tried and couldn't topple him at all. And I was hitting his head a bunch of times
Ngai Ming Jien nah with thunder even after breaking the horn I didn’t meet the dps check, it is insanely hard with thunder
A godly black dragon falls on its knees before an insect.
“I AM A GOD I CONTROL ALL ELEMENTS I AM STRONGER THAN ALL OF THE ELDER DRAGONS! THE MASTER OF THE NEW WORLD!”
haha Kinsect go brr
Soggy Socks 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And a high rank weapon
The little bug who could :,)
If you're going to complain about Goldian armor being "late game", maybe you shouldn't try Alatreon yet, just a thought.
Wait, people are complaining about Golden Rathian as late game monster? :D
Alatreon are one of the final monsters that the player face in MH games, those people are just adorable.
Should have raised the minimum req to MR150 instead of 24 =]]
For real lol. This happened last time i did a video on kinsect, even tho i emphasised that they could use any defensive set they want
@agito 97 I managed to solo him too although I not really good at very strong monster in solo mode. Divine Blessing 5 is literally a divine blessing. Together with speedeating you can heal yourself up fast. Go try it out :)
@@LeonNguyen exactly if you can't fight tempered elders or AT nami you don't need to be fighting aletreon
Never thought I would see the day where a black dragon that is a symbol of destruction get bullied by an insect
i didnt expect it to work, but when i heard about "elemental nova" i was lowkey pretty excited to try this lol
Go look up kinsect only runs in 4u. Fatalis was one of the first monsters people tried it on thanks to its ridiculously high misreported 80 dragon hz on its head and the discovery that kinsects did 10x their display element instead of 1/10 like regular weapons. I've soloed most of the g rank quests with kinsect in that game and it also makes great "support" because kinsect is the best ko weapon in 4u, and can easily score 3 or 4 kos on a 5 minute hunt.
ah, so thats how you play Insect Bowgun
Those damn insect glaive mains, coming into our hunts and stealing our jobs!
@@ConsOA AngBata HATES this IG player in 1 SIMPLE STEP
As an IG main, this amuses me to no end seeing my lil boi, steal this dragon's lunch money.
I'm glad to see a build that actually uses the meta weapon
I know your baiting.... And I immediately almost took it.
@@danielkaler569 what bait? ^_^
@@danielkaler569 well someone will bugging him though .
It pisses me off everytime someone says "i play all 14 weapons" missing out the only good weapon in the game
I bet this set really bugs Alatreon.
Ayooooo
@@ConsOA On a completely unrelated note, I've been doing some testing, and it seems the full Alatreon set bonus actually very slightly out-does Safi mixed or otherwise, at least for dragon, and is way more defensive. Have you found similar results?
I FINALLY managed to beat this monster. Honestly I am ecstatic. It took me two attempts to do it. The first attempt I carted 4 times and I was at the 47 minute marker. The second attempt I decided to change to dragon element and actually managed to get through the whole fight while only carting once. I fainted to the third escaton judgement (which I swear is a lot harder to contain than the others). And then after he did about 6 escaton judgements, I beat him at the 41 minute mark. Thank you so much for this guide man. This was honestly keeping me up at night as I really wanted to not only beat him, but SOLO him. And I finally managed to do it after wasting so much of my time trying. For those of you that are still struggling with this fight, repeatedly going for the head is key because that will make sure he dies sooner. Don't stop going for his head even when both the horns break. And also always charge up your insect glaive after he does escaton judgement. Honestly the fact that this guide is out and he's STILL a pain in the ass shows how honestly unfair this fight is. I can understand how there are objectively well designed things about him, but at the same time I think the fact that it limits you to only certain play styles is objectively bad design. Anyway, great video mate!
Sorry if this sounds rude, but you seem to suck hard at this game.
@@Lucifer-hq5pe Sorry if this sounds rude, but you seem to be a little bit of jerk. I'm sorry this dude isn't a pro kill Alatreon in 2:30 player like TDS and sounds more like a casual player actually having fun with the game. Maybe instead of saying "you suck hard at this game" say "great job beating Alatreon" like an encouraging mhw player. Again sorry if this all sounds rude.
I feel your pain and your drive to beat Alatreon solo
This is for all you kinsect mains out there. No not "Insect glave" "KINSECT"
30 minutes? Combine that with the Plunderblade and you will be set afterwards ^^
Plunderblade has a cap on how many times it can plunder. The blade itself is limited to 4, and the shinies it can drop are on the same counter as the shinies Alatreon drops on bang or elemental topple. You'll usually run out of new shinies after like 10 or so minutes, maybe 15.
After 30 min with plunder I also got his azure jewel which surprised me. Seems you can use this method for everything but the wings and tail.
What I've been doing is using shield spire because the dummy straight can distract monster for minutes and let you get free damage granted you still have to be careful because he can change aggro but it lets me get a guaranteed element flinch
Yesssss i cant remember if i brought the cat this run, but if not its another easy way to make it faster, and that plunderblade does workkk
@@RPGeenius I got two azure jewels from failing the quest (two quests each one jewel)
A small heads up.
If you aren't very accurate in hitting the head, you might run out of slinger ammo to boost your kinsect. (happened to me and Alatreon was just at 10% health)
Having slinger capacity helps a lot.
Were you using the tenderise attack much? Like accidently wasting ammo? Because combined with the dragon pods ala drops it seemed like it would be enough, but honestly i never play kinsect without slinger up so im probably wrong
I'm using full MR KT set for the free meal spam, trading divine blessing level 5 for divine blessing 3 and speed eating 3. Using Laguna Glaive and Foliacath with opposing element to Alatreon, it does about 50ish damage per peck to the head and 60 damage per peck to the front arms. Targeting the front arms is a lot easier than the head. The only time I switch to head is when it's in Dragon Active. Also with every topple I use IG combos on it's head. Try to prioritize pecking the front legs and see how you fare and only ever tenderize it when you need more slinger ammo. Also, I don't even bother trying to flinch shot it as I tend to miss a lot and just waste the limited slinger ammo we have access to. (When it's in Dragon Active, Foliacath Ice/Fire does about 30ish damage per peck to the head and 39 damage per peck to the front leg.)
@@ConsOA no tenderizing, but I'm really lousy at aiming at times. I was already at my second escaton cart.
Tbh I had to try a lot of times but this was the way I finally managed to solo him. I think you can only call this "incredibly easy" as a veteran but it's true, once you get his movement pattern memorised, it's mostly about staying focused for that long. Took me 36 minutes and one more death than the run you did (got two transformations to ice) but I'm just glad I got this done. Thanks!
when he say “ hello again, cons here” u kno it’s on be a banger
Haha thanks ^_^
I always worried it was a little cheesy
I never thought I'd use my glaive this way. A fine golden goose for you sir.
I fainted twice, couldnt get felyne insurance, but i soloed him with this build. Took me 41 minutes....THANK YOU!!!
I always suspected the kinsect may be able to do something like this. Thanks a bunch for the set idea Ima try this out.
Lolol that end part was awesome! "If ya cant get it I prob cant help you." Thanks for this build though Im crafting it rn.
man, i just killed that ala today,using your method,your a genius, ive been doing more attempts, damage build,ele build,or def build but didnt work,
but this time it work,how an old weapon beat that scumbag,while a rarity 12 weapon doesnt,
the regen of rarity 10 is awesome, i didnt know that..
If you have the upgraded Behemoth glaive, you can actually get through ice active if you have an ice bug or fire active if you have a fire bug. Since the glaive does dragon damage, you can make use of it in the active mode where your kinsect is useless. This does require knowledge on how to use an IG but I've beaten Alatreon with no carts using this method. I save all my mounts for the phase where my kinsect is useless so when it goes back into dragon active I can spam it with my kinsect to deal enough element damage.
yup im gonna talk about this at some point in the future
This is the thing that worked for me after many, many attempts. THANK YOU!
AT LAST OUR SAVIOUR HAS ARRIVED
I got you bro :D
Thank fuck, thanks to you, I was able to beat this thing solo after days of trying. Dunno why I didn’t find this build sooner. You’re a legend bro.
haha congrats, you're very welcome ^_^
"its not the fastes kill" me trying my best with a normal weapon and still slower :D
I actually killed quite a lot of elder dragons with my bug, always good for that tiny finishing blow.
Thanks for the build and tips, man, finally managed to kill it.
This is a great strat, I came pretty close to making this work on my first try. Never used IG before, and I think once I learn a thing or two about how to get better damage out of the kinsect it will work. Went from struggling with the staggers and horn breaks to staggering twice and breaking both horns on the first attempt. Thanks for this. Like and subscribe for sure.
great work! sorry it didnt work first try, kinsect can take a little bit getting used to but im sure your next attempt will get it! And thanks for the sub, hopefully its worth it ^_^
This helped me kill alatreon for the first time. Thank you so much!
I was thinking about tjis build couple of days ago, but havent touched IG in months! Glad someone made a solid video on it.
Late to the party, but extremely eye opening. Its irritating that the game never directs you to tempered as part of progression. I've been struggling at Safi, and broken at Alatreon, and the game never said "you should be doing tempered." The handler has just been yelling at me to do safi, which I skirt by, and now she continuously tells me to do Alatreon. They are made available WAY to early, which confuses so many players. This is where all the "late game" complaints are from. So thanks for getting me on the correct progression path.
Ah, yes, very nice. This is a build that even I can understand.
I've had this game from the start and chose IG. Till today, I just found out you could CHARGE ur bug. Cheeses lol
You’re the man. I dig the pachelbel canon at the outro screen as well. This is a strat I would use for fun in the future.
thank you
I tried this but couldn’t get it to die. I kept getting elemental checks but ran out of time. I was also getting the same damage with my kinsect.
Same... Die at 42'' from judgement every time. Looks like the kinsect doesn't make enough damage to finish him. Sad...
@@blackfish7736 did you remember to boost the kinsect with enemy ammo? That makes it deal real damage
Also the strat is only using the kinsect in the dragon phase if you use Dragon kinsect, in the others its better to dps him with melee on the arms, I prefer Dragon element since that makes his novas a complete joke, if you play properly you will never die to Eschaton.
Element boost is the bonus i recommend for even easier element checks
One tip/bug I've noticed: If you feed your kinsect shot, then pick up another shot then pick up the original shot, the ammo count resets.
Heh, bug
the sever kinsect can actually get a tail cut, when using this i really like the 20 speed one, just so much faster with deploy and return
Thxs to you I finally beat em. I tried solo without the augment (didn't have the steamstones) Got very close survived 4 nova, but ended up failing. I joined a random and we did it in a pair. I used your blunt strategy with a ice element glaive. Same insect too. Thanks so much.
Bro you the MAN for this I'm definitely doing this today
best of luck!
Damn... I lasted 43 minutes with Alatreon with this strategy but I failed... I think my accuracy might be the issue. I’ve used the insect Gaige before but I never exclusively used the kinsect only. I guess with some more practice, seems do-able.
Edit: just beat Alatreon with a single random player. Completed in 25’50, good enough for me. Thanks for the strategy/build.
no problem, sorry it didnt work out for you. At 43 mins, it must have been on the brink of death for real. I shouldnt have assumed people would be as used to aiming kinsect as i am, and should have offered more ways to manage the dps. Sorry!
Cons OA it’s all good, I appreciate your video and tips. Surely I just underestimated the kinsect aim accuracy/sensitivity.
Wow! Definitely gonna try this. Still can’t beat it no matter what (tbh, I’m mostly just using long sword or great sword with randoms, gotta try some solo options because usually there’s at least 1 or 2 people who don’t seem to know the mechanic, which is fair enough). This is super interesting/helpful though, thank you!
No problem, though looking back I might have been overestimating how easy this is. You do need to be able to actually hit the thing with the kinsect semi consistently, but otherwise it's pretty hard to die until you run out of horn breaks and the element starts changing, at which point every second nova will take you out. Should be enough time if you're moderately okay at aiming the kinsect. Good luck!
(Also i think the GS matchup is really good against this guy, so try soloing that and watching my coverage of that if you haven't already and need some help)
Let’s go!!! TY! Just beat it first time, now I can do event quests with people, special assignment matchmaking was dead af!
CAN CONFIRM 8 months later this still works I called bs and I was wrong thank you for this
not a problem! ^_^
I just learned something in my fight. I do have my palico around and it got a sleep. If you drop all your poison smoke bombs, you can get a poison. Which means the same is true for fatalis as they both have an original threshold of 300.
...oof.... I wasn’t even aware that Alatreon was out this year since they postponed it in May
haha get in the ring!
Cons OA dayum... tried Alatreon- he is element spam like crazy!
Am here to say this actually works, granted it took me 40 minutes but its at least a guaranteed kill
I tried doing the method of switching with fire and ice and it didnt work out so well, instead i used dragon element on the kinsect
And i survived all novas, just focusing mainly on the head and forearms will get you to that dps goal
honestly, not to surprised this works, kinsects do insane damage in iceborne, though why they couldn't buff aerial ig instead will forever sadden me. Still great work cons!
I don't know what's more frustrating.. not beating him yet, or getting the shaft hero streamstones to augment the glaive to even try this.
Lol my man cons representing for the kinsect users! I have not played MH in a lil bit but I specifically wanted to so I can kill alatreon with my bug
yesss the kinsect needs more respect, little but puts in mad work lmao
;_; I tried this build and still got knocked down, flame hit, stunned, then wing hit to death 4 times. I’ve soloed every other monster in the game but.. maybe I’m just not as good at video games as I thought.
It is good to see someone make this video! The first time I fight Alatreon I ady build this IG to go and solo Alatreon. Well I see still gt many people blaming Alatreon is too difficult to fight solo or team fight, I was planing to make aa video to teach people this build lol
Glad you enjoyed! i talked about kinsect stuff quite a bit so its natrual id do this haha
Ahhh I run out of time
I nearly always hit his hat
I always charged my kinsect
I broke his Horns and weakend his EJ but he dont want to die
And by the way i had the exame damage number as showed in the Video so what do i wrong
same build also ?
personally i switched to another IG with element boost for the kinsect . that did the trick
im also picking up IG for first time just for this .. and it helped me to change some hotkeys so its easier ( shift to aim for example )
and u have to just spam hit him as much as u can . when ur kinsect is almost out of stamina call it back then send it out like 3 times in a row . it will get back to full stamina in no time .
also try ur best to always aim for the head if head is moving too much go for forelegs
Downed Alatreon half a dozen times with groups but I really want to solo it once, definitely giving this a shot once I assemble the materials
I believe Alatreon is a nice lesson to the casual players who typically look for "one weapon for all" weapons. Now y'all can't rely on that, now you need to actually look at the weaknesses of a monster and plan for that. All I had to do was add in an element charm (fire or ice) and a high element weapon (LS Main) and his nova stopped being a problem.
Before Alatreon, most of the time the Raging Bracky IG was my "one weapon for all" ;-P
Decent raw, native purple, no need of handicraft and has blast as an added bonus. That's the best combination for casual hunting.
As a Hunting Horn main through the series... I have never really settled on "One Weapon for all" as each horn had different songs to answer different fights. I didn't feel slighted when I was told I had to use an elemental weapon. I just laughed and busted out the Shrieking Legiana horn. Then later... the Safi Frosthorn with Elemental Song Up.... and now the fight is an utter joke as I smack in in the face with 1240 elemental damage or (124 damage before modifiers). True Crit element on that? And the bard becomes the hero of this tale.
I have something that I call my Four Horsemen. They're the four weapons that I mainly use for hunting and they all serve a unique purpose.
Dual Blades for smaller and quicker monsters like the kulu yaku.
Long sword for crowd control and slaying minor monsters in groups.
Insect Glaive for monsters that like to stay in the air.
And my charge blade for the more tankier and ground monsters. Helps to block and attack with swift or heavy movements.
Did it duo with evade savage axe charge blade with vaals cb max dragon and element eceleration and my teammate with alatrion (not final form) duel blades no element boost
Still killed it
Bring a Palico a paralyze weapon or sleep weapon and maybe healing for an extra life
lmao tried this twice today took 32 and 39 minutes
for me to die... good tank build tho and its sad to cause i was one flinch shot away from victory on attempt 2
Thank you for this, I was struggling a lot with this monster and it was becoming too much of a pain. I also didn't want to start relying on randoms.
We weren’t expecting special forces
Yeah running with randoms is painful I soloed his ass with ice db's lol had to go through 4 Nova's to do it too lol
Not a problem, i know exactly how you feel. best of luck!
@@DarthRane113 I play db too. Are you having a problem breaking the horns? I am and it makes me cart every other nova 😔.
@@RPGeenius Actually no my issue was hitting elemental checks cause I skipped or mr kulve so I was running beotodus dbs 🤣
How long does it take you to topple him? I've never managed to meet the threshold before he nukes me.
I drained got the supernova flinch 4 times died once to super nova and spent 40 minutes just to have a 7th supernova happen
I cant beat him. The insect G got me closer but every judgement move except the first one kills me. I drop him like three times with elemental and break his horns but his judgements kill me every time.
Ok noted this is for newbie or hard defeated alatreon solo story, this is tips so good.
Glad it was helpful!
Crazy I started with insect glaive and now main LS and I never thought of this method
What about making the kinsect Dragon? The damage in dragon active should be high enough to get the topple, but you won't be disadvantaged by phase changes.
You can refer to the elemental chart for alatreon. Dragon can deal dmg in all phase but very low.
Random party even with full lobby is for some reason is harder than to just solo Alatreon.
I am glad World has solo scaling for almost everything. I always find solo better. It's even worse in Dauntless.
“For some reason” randoms suck simple as that
@@Jsnipes98 or some are dumb still bringing non elemental weapon ffs
its weird because iirc multi alatreon only has double health, and its front legs are great hitzones, so it should be perfect for 4 player lobbies. randoms gonna random i guess
Does anyone know if this still works? I've been trying to do this strat with similar damage (i can only get my kinsect to do 60 damage at a time) but the thing doesn't die,
Slinger ammo + kinsect combo is new to me. Didn’t knew that they buffed kinsect damage by a lot. Are there any other weapons that got boosted by different type of slinger ammos? I know that different ammos has different damage, but to affect weapon? It’s super new to me even though I’ve reached mr 100+
Just imagine a group of 4 people doing this shit?
It'd be an Alatreon Massacre the moment he falls onto the ground
I used your technique with slight modification. I used Runier Negi IG with Foliacath III forz with element Ice/Fire. I used the kinsect to meet the first dps check, then used IG to break horns. Only cart twice, but that because I'm still learning the positionals. Thank you Cons. You help me crack the black dragon. 👍🤜🤛🙏
As a ig main thank you so much for this lol alatreon is a huge pain
first time i've seen a set like this without flinch free.
Now I want to see a group of 4 people to use this strat xD
Cool Video :D
Would working in palico rally and wide range to buff your cat help with damage output? I have a support build that is just this but with palico and wide range.
Can someone give me a bit of advice? I use hammer I know his moves I'm using full safi b set with 500 ice element from the velkhana hammer but no matter how much I hit him he doesn't do his animation to know you have weakened the nova any advice?
If he doesn’t topple, ele damage not enuff..
stack ele up skills over damage up ones if you havent already, and icr if velk gets purple but definitely get it if it does, its a big boost to ele damage
otherwise, if you know the moves REALLY well and are great with hammer, run pure raw for that big dps, and just tank the carts (if you're playing solo) and kill it before the third
i got to try IG for the first time .. just to beat this absurd damage check boss . such a stupid mechanic .
anyway IG is pretty awesomely fun >.>
edit : holy crap it worked >.>
u have no idea how good this is .. as a first time IG user .. i was finally able to solo that stupid monster
its sooo good
i swear i made so many builds for this stupid fight : SnS , hammer , LS , LBG . lance
half of these im not good at even .. and wasted so much mats making these builds .. thx so much for sharing this awesome cheese build
congrats, im happy i could help ^_^
You sir... Gave me hope... And I'm crying while writing it, because I did the same as you, I made LS, IG, DB, LBG, HBG, LANCE, BOW
I don't understand when people say "git gud" if mission says "you have 40min to take it down" I expect to have 40 min, not 6 until he nuke me out of my misery
Not sure if this was answered in the video but may I ask why Aerial Rod II? I can see a lot of other glaives that gives blunt boost.
how is t that you insect is dealing more damage..damage of mine is 64 more or less...
I'm so confused the only thing I'm missing are the health arguments but I'm still only hitting the head 96% of the time and its still not working???
(Starting to really think im just meant to never beat it, at this point his stuff doesn't matter to me, I just want to beat it.)
(Also I did every other monster in the game solo with ease (aside from Safi) so I dont know whats wrong??????)
oh btw you can farm ala with ghille mantle and plunder blade.
make sure you equip ghillie before enter the ring.
farcaster, repeat and return from the quest.
Can you farcaster with the ghillie mantle?
You shouldn't be able to use farcaster at all
Going to test this out later
@@chronicskaterincipio
ah sorry, i mean with wingdrake.
doesnt work, cool idea though (unless i did it wrong)
What about a dragon kinsect + elemental boost?
Is it possible that way to reduce the damage of the novas even after you broke both horns?
Since Alatreon takes elemental damage from dragon in all 3 modes, even if it is reduced to 1*(fire and ice) and 2*(dragon)
his hitzones in element for dragon are like 2% in ice and fire and 9% in dragon mode (something along those lines) It really doesn't work. With dragon dualblades I have a lot of trouble weaking his nova
@@gabrieladonai9427 Oh, too bad then.
Elemental kinsect + blunt bonus it is then.
This is what I do. While slower, I can meet the element dps check before every nova, even after both horns are gone. So then it just becomes a game of patience....hunts take 40+ minutes doing it this way.
Idea: if you can use a fire element kinsect with ice element glaive or vice versa, you can dual element it surely? That way you have an option either element!
yup this is definitely possible, in fact i was going for a run of exactly that just before checking through the comments section haha ^_^
you just drop all the defensive skills to play regular glaive style, and in exchange you get to always be able to de-nova, it's a really nice trick. unfortunately i struggle to do enough damage with the regular glaive lol
Cons OA Sweet! Thanks for replying man you made my day! I’m a glaive main so I think I’m gonna give this a shot tomorrow! I agree on the damage problem - the problem with the glaive on the whole is that it’s highest motion values tend to come at the end of the combos, which with a fast moving monster like Alatreon makes it pretty difficult to get those high damage numbers! I think with a combination of Rocksteady Mantle and Perhaps vitality with Gaia’s Veil might allow the full combos to finish and get the required damage, that’s gonna be my strategy at least!
@@Parceloader yeah it seems like we have the same problem lol. I think i need to downward thrust more, and get better at preemptively starting my tornado slashes.
That said, i was using a meta glaive with no ele skills to see if i could get a great time. If you stack ele up on a decent glaive, it should be fairly easy but idk
So if I health augment a rarity 6 weapon right now will it have the old heal percentage or new?
Omg thanksss!! After ## times failed multiplayer attempts, I was able to kill it solo with this build, on the 1st try!!😱😱
Wouldn't it make more sense to take a glaive that's the opposite element of the kinsect for the alternate phases?
NRool glaives with the old health augment are level 6 and have very low attack. I would not rely on them. If you dont need the health regen, then yes. You can for example use kjarr glaives with element boost.
Yeah if you arent doing kinsect only, but struggle to take ala out before it enters bad phases, this would definitely help
Cos i was doing kinsect only, i prioritised finding a nice base world glaive with blunt boost and 3 aug slots
@@ConsOA Aye, makes sense, I totally blanked on the old world glaives health augment thing.
The goat is back!
@@ConsOA and now i just beat it for 1st time using your strat. Except i actually used the chromeglaive iii. Managed to get quite a few drops from the sever boost
is this method still works ?
its still works, just now ive finnaly able to solo it, 37min, so tired
Thanks for the tips. You essentially run with two elemental damage types. I brought a KJAR ice insect glaive to and use the fire kinsect when he is in ice mode. The only downside is the lower kinsect damage due having no blunt boost on this glaive. However you can compensate for wailing medieval style during his fire phase.
yeah there are some great variations to be had, a few of which i hope to cover soon!
How the hell did you get a Kjarr ice Insect Glaive? The game refuses to give me one.
@@albal156 I think I got lucky with a HR Kulve run. Maybe you can try the Elder melder and spam HR Kulve materials. That's how I got my Kjarr Ice LS.
The Kjarr rng with both the melder and monster is terrible so I feel your pain.
Gleambeetle seems better than Foliacath, which I've always used. If that thing misses it's mark, it's zipped out of range already before you can call it back. The slower speed of the Gleambeetle seems to work in favor if you don't have aimbot accuracy like me.
yeah its definitely up to preference. if you like being in close range especially its really good
Thanks. I think this is causing me to lose a lot of dps with the bug, as I've noticed it'll literally go to the other side of the map randomly sometimes. I'll try out a Gleambeetle tongiht and see if the slower speed works out.
I've had Alatreon go through 5 Escatons (with the 5th ending me permanently). I thought I was doing tons of damage. Clearly, I was wrong. It pisses me off, because I am constantly going ham with reckless abandon... but, Alatreon BSes me out of wins... it's like his health is infinite when I fight him. And if I call in help? The mooks attack everything BUT the horns. So. Yeah... 40+ attempts. All failures. I HATE Alatreon. He was NEVER this difficult. There was no need to boost his difficulty by 10x. I despise losing to BS mechanics.
Wouldn't spamming the aerial attack (making the kinsect attack from air to ground, piercing the who monster) be more effective?
When I do it with the 20 element 19 attack 7 speed (can't remember the name but max damage + slowest possible for more ticks) it deals a crazy amount of damage through Alatreon, unless he runs around, but I guess it's not as safe as running around spamming the kinsect
Palico rally 5, meowcano, take opposite element for palico. Palico makes it a bit more random for movement, but I didn't need to eat a cart from judgement at all.
niceee, that must have been really quick then! i would have taken cat too but i wanted this to be purely kinsect in future. i have some cat optimisation for this run on the way tho, so keep an eye out ;)
@@ConsOA my aim with kinsect is barely decent and I was using element boost, still took about 30 minutes. I think I'll farm up materials for a blunt boost glaive and give it another try to see if that improves the time.
This is how I beat him for the first time! Took me a couple of tries but thank you!! Any tips on how to break the wings? I need 4 to get the full armour set.
Try running the event quest with randoms instead of the special assignment now you have killed it. I cleared it 4 or 5 times with randoms today running a wide range/free meal secret/speed eating build. The event quest players were easily doing enough damage to stop the nova. All I did was soften up the back legs, help them break the horns when he fell down and heal/buff.
I thought i replied to this but i guess not?
Anyway i think you get wings from just carving or rewards. I never broke em and i had enough for the set after only like 5 or 6 kills
@@ConsOA Yea think I need to go for a couple of kills. Can't seem to break them and the plunderblade doesn't get them now
why not go fire/ice kincect and Ice/fire Glave at the same time.
If I use safi'jiiva equipment, i can kill with insect?
What happens if you combine this with a wide range palico build?
How is he hitting 71 when I can barely make 32 straight at the head on the exact same build?
if the builds are really the same (just recommending to triple check just in case maybe your kinsect isnt fully upgraded?) then you might not be buffing/charging your kinsect. @1:25 Cons explains how to do it. You know you have it if you see the red square to the right of your 3 kinsect buffs and kinsect stamina bar on the top left. NOT to be confused with the red diamond attack buff that takes the 1st of the 3 kinsect buff slots. Also, you need monster drop slinger ammo so dragon pods and thorn pods are the only ones ive seen in the Alatreon fight.
Other possibility is that youre using fire element kinsect when Alatreon starts in fire mode? (OR using ice element kinsect when its starting in ice mode but that doesnt happen with the special assignment)
Cant think of anything else atm. Hope this helps!
You have to power it up
Dracov covered it perfectly, thanks for that!
Sorry for not giving that point the attention it deserved, i was worried i spent too long without showing gameplay so rushed through a bit haha
@@ConsOA I'm powering up the kinsect with stone. I don't know if there's a difference between monster drops or stone on the floor.
@@telepathicteddybear monster drops gives red boost which is attack power, stones and whatnot give yellow which is a stamina boost
Wait a minute so using a fire elemental kinsect weakens the judgement in his active fire mode? Tfs has to be a unintended bug or so
How did you get all those skills to stack? Plz
Your have any good Palico builds to use with this build?
Bug boi set is my go to. Problem is I get kicked out of groups because of it. So much hate for bug bois. Does it matter who gets the last hit?
This built is still fine without the hard resistance jewes ? Like hard ice resis and etc ?
Wait I just had an idea, what is I use speed eating and a raw build can I survive the nova?
i tried a few times and no luck, but you might be better off!
Thanks for the build.
Finally got him down.
Tbh, I am 200mr full fatalis set+weapon, Slayed fatalis 20 times 5 solo not that much, but alatreon man I don't know I hate it, whereas fatalis fight is the best fight of iceborne the pressure at the third phase omg I am addicted.