Plot Holes That RUINED Dragon Ball
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Welcome to our latest video where we explore some of the most glaring plot holes in the Dragon Ball universe that left fans scratching their heads! 🐉💥 From inconsistent power levels to inexplicable story twists, we'll break down each plot hole and discuss how they impacted the series.
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Time Travel Troubles: How Trunks' time travel created more questions than answers.
Power Scaling Problems: Exploring the inconsistencies in character strengths across different sagas.
Forgotten Characters: Why did some key fighters vanish from the storyline?
Mystical Mayhem: The confusing rules of Dragon Balls and their consequences.
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isn't if someone died by natural causes, such as goku dying by a heart virus, just make him a regular spirit and not keep his body? i feel like that was mentioned before during saiyan saga.
That part and you're correct. He most likely would have been reicanated at that point in DBZ.
That’s something I didn’t think about
But that doesn’t explain piccolo tien or yamcha who have already been on king Kai world
@@DripKnight they died cuz the got blown up lmfao goku died naturally
True
Which means that Piccolo could of communicated with King Kai to talk to Gohan
@@DripKnightYou can just say they didn't keep their bodies because they failed to keep the androids at bay
Non of these are plot holes lil dude, want me to school you???
“Lil Dude “ man I’m 24 and School Me
Try Your Best
@@DripKnight first off, The kais have never met humans/saiyans and didn't know what power they was capable of. (they didn't think gohan could pull the sword from the stone) the saiyans have more raw power (not magical) then all of the kais by a huge margin, when the kais stipulated the rules for fusion it was from the experience and perspective of what happens to their own race/being when fusing
All the info we got on patora fusion was from the kais, even tho they are gods they are not all knowing.........
Want me to keep going?
@anbueverything3974 I’ll give points your right about how the Kai’s don’t fully understand Mortals
However Elder Kai being a fusion of a Which and a Kai last forever
Why did SSB Burn the time limit and how is Vegito confidence came apart when he entered Buu
I’ll love to see what you say about Cell Nucleus
@@DripKnight Cell is literally called Cell... Not core lol, that's his trade mark power, being able to heal from a single cell. But it only unlocked after reaching his final form, He never reached his final form before so mostly didnt know about his own healing factor up until that point, even he was surprised after blowing himself up that he'd recover, even in super hero movie his head needing to be intact only worked because cell max was still in his 2nd form, if cell max was in his final transformation form, I bet the "core" being his weekness wouldnt be an issue, Cells first form wouldn't have survived that warp kamehameha and the Neither would cells 2nd form, those forms only regenerate missing limbs like piccolo
@anbueverything3974 so explain why Cell Boasted the his head contains his nucleus the thing that lets him survive and as for Cell Max Dr.Hedo mentions that he Purposely made Cell Max Weakness his head cause he didn’t trust Magenta
And what about the Cell Jr. they exploded after being chopped up and didn’t just regenerate
1 hour fusion that only lasts what the plot demands due to "energy depletion" BS.
Energy Depletion is EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID GT with SSJ4 Gogeta about to Big Bang Omega Shenron
@@DripKnightalso with ssj3 gotenks (cause of ssj3 draining the fusion), however i don't think the fusion dance or gt should be used for referencing potara (the only thing to reference is that it's a fusion but other potara fusions are better examples)
One of the biggest plot hole is definitely power scaling in the anime especially with beerus
Beerus is just infinitely strong
And that’s frustrating cause when will Goku be on Beerus’s Level
Small issue, the Namekian dragon balls very specifically do not resurrect people who died of natural causes. One could then presume that that applies to viruses.
It’s always kept vague if that’s a possibility
Even so they could wish to bring back Piccolo and others that were killed by the androids
1:13 Wait, I thought Kai was a race that you have to be born as, NOT just a class that any character can be trained in.
Like in World Of Warcraft, Races and classes are different things.
I would say maybe
in DBS Manga Trunks was techinically a Kai in training which means that if he had continued his training he might of became Supreme Kai
@@DripKnight . Okay. That's wild. Didn't think training could change a character's biological race or species but that's cool.
Supreme Kai is a position not a race
Kaioshin could be considered a race
Once Goku Black dawned the Supreme Kai Earrings he got access to the time ring that only a Supreme Kai can get all because he has the position
PLUS Why didn’t Merge Zamasu unfuse because Goku’s body is mortal?
The best transformation of dragon ball history will always be the first time Goku went ssj.
for dragon ball history I agree
but UI Omen got it for me
Goku does use the mind read technique during the buu saga when both he and vegeta are absorbed by gohan buu goku and vegeta read fat buu mind to see how there are 2 majin buus
Didn’t know that
Thanks
While Future Gohan/Trunks had a plot hole namely forgetting about the Namekians but much of Dragonball tried to have stakes by removing or limiting the dragon balls
They didn't forget they didn't have instrant tranmission or instantaneous movement but doesn't make sense why Trunks didn't use Shenron to learn instant transmission in our timeline so he could revive them.
You can't revive someone who has been dead for over a year @@jakazusupreme9561
@@jakazusupreme9561because piccolo fucking died
@@AvidCS You're right Piccolo also is Namekian guardian of the Namekian Dragon Balls to not just the earth ones righ not elder Moori after Guru appointed him. AvidCS you're so smart. I wish I had you around.
@@jakazusupreme9561 You do realize none of them knew instant transmission right? Nor had a way to get to Namek, right? You do understand that right?
6:17 they actually didn’t forget to age them up, and it’s for the same reason GT and Diama have kid goku. Having kids fighting in anime sells. Timeline pan was ready for fill the character role. They just didn’t think we’d notice lol
Naw you right that Goten and Trunks as kids sell
But Pan as a replacement
WHEN CABBA IS RIGHT THERE FOR SCREEN TIME
@@DripKnight goku was a kid till he was 17 or 19 so its not redcon
Dude for the angel with the smirk. the smile was just to show he ain’t like them and was kind of glad his shity universe was getting erased. Nothing deeper than that. There where a disgraceful universe from Top to bottom. It was never going to lead to a evil angel
Plot.
His universe was terrible but an angel that shouldn’t be biased was pretty to happy for his universe dimise plus they didn’t show his face when all the universes were restored
Makes me think there was something but then was left on the writing room wall
@@DripKnightMore of a missed opportunity than a plot hole that we don't see U9's Angel disappointed that he has a job again. Likewise with U10's Angel being happy that she does have a job again.
I always looked at it as him accepting that there were mortals out there as strong as he witnessed. Beerus them did it later wen watching jiren fight.
Of course that could just be my own personal head cannon too tho.
We are technically Time Patrollers.
It would be insane if Xenoverse time patrol missions was the key to answer these plot holes
it's ridiculous like Fans come up with incredible bs to explain when Miura dropped the ball cause I taught he wouldn't need sleep
Stop applying Anime Beerus logic to Manga Beerus. You know events in the manga happened differently. In the Manga Jiren adapted to Ultra instinct unlike the anime. Toriyama in a written interview has expressed frustation with Toei for deviating from his outlines and praise for Toyatro manga and hopes the anime will just follow the manga. Beerus isn't a moviing goal post. You just applied event that happen in the anime to the manga. Goku didn't go Kaioken in the freaking manga.
I did read the Manga and even with the Manga Beerus still having more strength compared to what we saw in the start with SSG is unbelievable
@@DripKnight Are you referring to that line where Beerus said he was at 70% of his power Goku was at 80%? That was only in the movie. Beerus didn't even look like he broke a sweat fighting Goku in the manga.
@@DripKnight In the Manga Beerus has a technique called ultra ego which increases his power the more he sets his mind on destruction, this is why techniques that allow you to grow continuously in power like Ultra instinct are needed to rival him in power unlike "mere power ups" like SSG and SSB, Goku'ss mastery over ultra instinct is less than beerus's mastery over ultra ego that's why he is stronger
The only time Goku will rival Beerus is when his Ultra Instinct mastery becomes equal to Beerus's mastery over Ultra ego.
@@ACertainManthe cope is crazy 🤣🤣
@@iceace5849 Read the start of the Granola arc that's the story we have on our hands
7:08 goku isnt inmune to death.
Kami is able to do some afterlife paperwork with enma for goku.
But kami wasn't avalible then ; because he die soon after alongside pikoro.
That’s true Kami did pull strings so Goku could go to King Kai BUT
Since Tien Krillin Piccolo and Yamcha made it to King Kai does that mean Kami suggested it or was that an oversite of Toriyama
@@DripKnight king kai let them
Stay
My main issue with dbs is the fact they had just used the dragon balls to unfuse kibito and supreme kai which made me think that was gonna be thier “get outta jail free” card if they were to ever use the potara again. Legit 0 point to that when they introduced a 1 hr time limit
You know you spitting the truth
they really didn't need to introduce Vegito's limit
I don't like Super's retcons as the payoff is nowhere near what was there before.
Like with Vegito being permanent was a big story aspect. Goku willing to permanently fuse with Hercule showed just how desperate he was. Now that's all gone so they could get Vegito in as fan service. Which is even more ridiculous as they could just used Gogeta.
That’s SO TRUE
GOGETA would of still shocked the world
The truth is: Dragon Ball should have been finished with Boo Saga. We watch DBS because we are too attached to Dragon Ball, but it is not good...
@@Sidfromhellpeople watched Super because BoG was a good movie too
My biggest problem is the story is fucking dumb. Even the transformation names are dumb. But it doesn't mean I hate everything about DBS. Bit it's not a very good show.
I kinda feel the same.
Super is a weird show where power doesn't matter, stakes aren't real and Goku has to be hear for everything, but I can't quit watching it
The Special Trunks with Goku dead not speaking trough King Kai killed me, I never figured out!
Future Trunks timeline is tragic but this plotline is just an oversite to tell a good story, so i'm not that bothered by it
@@DripKnight Me neither but interesting.
7:20 future goku died of diseases, those killed by diseases or natural reasons can't be wished back.
Fair
Doesn't explained why Goku didn't want to talk to his family from King Kai
Ret con not red con
That I didn’t know
Thanks 😊
came to comment this. Surprised more people did not call this out.
Wait didn't Gohan have his potential unlocked when he was a kid in namek
Yup and again by elder Kai for PLOT reasons
This series frustrates me and is still one of my favorite
@DripKnight same. Lol but nothings perfect. Only cell.
@@DripKnightwell you don’t think that was his reward for pulling out the z sword and training with it
Yes, and Gohan mentions that to old Kai who then informs him that his is better
@aaron101889 my potential unlocking skills are better than that guys 🤣🤣. Dbz makes no sense cause regardless Gohan had his full potential unlocked even if the guy couldn't do it as good as the older kai.
Honestly in a story about alien weremonkeys that make wishes with magic dragon testicles created by a race of cockless alien slug people i dont really care that much about the plot holes. I dont care that much about plot holes to begin with it changes absolutely nothing of how iconic the series is or why it became iconic.
That's fair
I ain't never quiting Dragon Ball #Daima2024
6:06 That makes sense, look at Dragon Ball Goku. He grows crazy fast doing three years
OG Goku sure grew fast
but during OG Dragon Ball kid Goku actually grew a little bit since his first outing as goten kind of shrunk in Super from Z
Let’s not forget that as of right now in the manga, it’s very close to the End Of Z but Bulma stated that the Z Fighters haven’t seen each other in 5 out of those 10 years after the Buu Saga. An over looked detail but one of the biggest plotholes timeline-wise in a cohesive canon story.
That conversation with Bulma could always mean that Goku was off world so much that Bulma hasn't seen him for so long
All these people tried to disprove you and a common theme I’m seeing in these comments is they’re making up headcannon and making connections aren’t there to explain it. It doesn’t matter if it can maybe be stretched to maybe be understandable, it’s about how the show doesn’t elaborate these things at all and modern dragon ball has made several retcons that people don’t wanna just accept.
Will say the Goku reading minds, was most likely a call back because every master he was under, roshi korin kami, all could read minds. And when Goku gets to namek his gi has his own name meaning he’s his own master, and we see him training himself. The mind reading thing was probably akira toriyama trying to show he had entered the realm of masters.
And 6:13 while goten and trunk’s age is weird (like everyone in the show), super hero is said to take place one year before the end of z, meaning they’re aged appropriately. The rest of (anime) super so far has not taken place that close to the end
With Dragon Ball always letting things be fague its not a surprise people have their own story of how things go which makes these comments interesting
and yeah Goku mind reading being a sign towards Goku's Real of Masters makes sense
NOW GOTEN AND TRUNKS aging super fast does upset me cause Gohan before the Time Chamber and after the Chamber in Cell made sense but yeah and Babies become NBA players, I don't think that can be really justified.
I think the nucleus thing was just explained poorly. It was moreso that Cell even when being blown to bits can still regenerate from a single cell or nucleus. Just like how majin buu can regenerate from smoke. Cells entire lower body was still intact when Goku atttacked him so he didnt need to regenerate from a single cell because half his body was still there, if you get what I mean. The nucleus thing is only relevant when Cell is almost completely blown to bits
I get what you mean and it makes sence that cell only needs a single cell to survive
I just wish Toriyama didn't add the remark of Cell pointing to his head and telling the Z Fighters that the only reason he surived his own self destruction was cause of a nucleus in his head
@@DripKnight Yeah I admit its weird, but again I think he just meant. "The reason I survived is because everything was destroyed besides my nucleus" maybe something got lost translation
Beerus power scaling is something else
Beerus is a Problem
This sounds like those 2015 first class criticism videos that doesn't know the difference between plot holes and retcoon and fan head canon never happening
Which Part in Specific
Vegito plot hole got my head scratching
The earrings no longer being permanent isn’t a red con
But it confuses me
Goku and Vegeta are mortals, the idea that buu made them defuse is debunked by Gotenks remaining fused inside Buu anyways. His time limit just ran out and old Kai had no experience with mortal fusion.
@@ACertainManwell also gotenks didn’t put a barrier on before he got absorbed
@ACertainMan I think another reason cause Vegeta is Dead his body is different than a regular body
So mix that with Buu’s inside 💥
@@joshuameraz2826 Vegito lowered his barrier and proceeded to walk inside Buu.
In the superhero movie vegeta said they reached there limit but they said saiyans don't have limits AM I THE ONLY ONE TO NOTICE THIS .😡😠🤬👿💩
Your Not Wrong
I still remember Vegeta in the TOP saying Saiyans Surpass there limits then yells at Kararot to Step in the Domain of the Gods
What is Limits 🤔🤔💥🤯
Once a Saiyan reaches one's limit without battling, they're capped. A Saiyan can only get stronger by battling, not sparring, or training for days on end. There's a reason why both Goku and Vegeta went to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber before going to the Universe 6 vs. 7 tournament. Sparring truly does nothing for Saiyans besides testing one's power level against another. Battles to the death are where they get the Zenkai Boosts they need to reach new heights. There are limits to a Saiyan's power. Just not when they're always fighting like Goku and Vegeta were in the Tournament of Power.
You know cell lied. In dragon ball Kartort cell says that"Do you really think i was telling you the truth*
Now that I didn't know
Cause when I read the manga and watched the anime he never said that
@@DripKnight it's in the game. Dragon ball z Kakarot
I guess I shouldn’t have stopped after Frieza then
Thanks for the Info
Also NFN there are more than a few times where Saiyans are shown to have low level psychic powers
There Are?????
Except for Goku and the Water
And him blasting a hole in the ground
And Goku Reading Krillin Mind
I can’t think of anything else 🤔
Lil bruh dont know what he talking about
Care to elaborate 👀
I think it's bc of Krillen and Goku's connection is how he was able to read his mind but granted it's a PH nonetheless
I wonder if he might bring back that ability as a joke in Daima
How is a character having a new ability a plot hole? We see supreme Kai read minds in the same series is that a hole?
DBZ Bardock is in the dragon ball Z manga tho...so it truly is a retcon
I doubt that the OG Bardock that the anime special gave us would never do what Manga Bardock did
plus him being the DBZ manga is true if you count Bardock Minus being canon, BUT Super adding the wish and Bardock being Self less unlike all the other saiyans feels like they don't want to Bardock to be mean like he was
I know your ass didn’t call him “Chase” ..
Chase????
I really hope this ain’t some dumb joke
@@DripKnight that’s literally what you called him lol
@samaofficial6689 Called Who??
Oh at least tell me where in the video it’s been a while since I made this video
You missing a big fact about Goku mind Reading.. That the original Goku..
Android saga time traveling changed the characters because they wll were supposed to pass.
So its a alternative Goku after Android saga which probably affected the past.😊
Not to be mean but I have trouble understanding what your point is?
@DripKnight he probably means that goku doesn't have mind reading anymore or it's "different."
The trunks timeline is the og timeline, so we're technically following duplicates. Tood bad he wasn't making sense especially since I believe and think he used it a handful of times after
Potential man gohan
I'm sick of Gohan's Potential
once was enough, 2 is annoying and 3 is just death to the character for me
In the story they still have to set a goal n beerus is that goal so y not say he still stronger to move the story
Beerus Problem is going till Goku gets his runback
Patoras isn't a pot hole it was until super
Dragon Ball Super didn’t need to ruin earrings I wish they just didn’t need to bring back Vegito
You're right
Dragon Ball Super IS a plothole
Fr😂
diff universe diff peutora rules lol,so simply
I would accept that rule so fast
It’s so simple and those earrings have different colors
Super redcon Gt... What's the point of this... 🙄
Super Was made cause of GT
@@DripKnight No, Pretty sure It's common speculation that It's because of the Dragon ball Movie.
Your right
But I’ll to think that the combination of GT and Evolution cause Toriyama to comeback to Dragon Ball and give us Battle of Gods then on Super
GT was never canon even back before it existed
True but the 2 Non Toriyama Dragon Ball Movie and Show was giving Dragon Ball a bad reputation
W video
Thanks 🙏