@@DazzleRebel When it showed “Low Miles” maybe 40? I wish I had access to the owner’s manual to see how much is left in the tank when that message shows. Maybe it’s a gallon, half or third. Not sure.
I have never been a fan of bungee cords. But the 1” wide Safari Straps I have are great. Each strap is 6ft long and can be joined together. Been using them for 6 years through rain, snow, hot summers, strapping down a large sleeping mat, backpack and teepee tent on my back seat. You should have a look at Safari Straps, they’re made in USA, right in Santa Clarita, CA.
I enjoyed your experiment. I have a Victory Vision Tour and have found that I average between 42 and 45 miles per gallon cruising around both town and country. I rarely go faster than 70 even though we have an 80 mph speed limit on the interstates. While a much heavier bike than the Chief, it is very aerodynamic. How you ride will affect mileage, but what is most important is enjoying the ride and seeing the sites. I can go 250 miles easily with a full tank, but my 66 year old bladder only has a 120 mile capacity so our bodies determine our fuel and rest stops. We ride because, riding a motorcycle is about the most fun a man can have with his clothes on. Ride on, Brother!
I used to ride my Honda Gold Wing. Up into the mountains of E TN and N GA. And Western NC. Found some amazing places! I love that Chief! Indian will sell millions
I really like your casual videos, like this one, talking about the mentality and joy of riding. I'm trying to cultivate that same mindset. Just enjoying the moments
Good video! My wife bought a Super Chief Limited and put over 4,000 miles on it in a month. She was getting over 50 mpg on regular roads and in the mountains. Freeway speeds of around 80 reduced her mileage to about 40-42. We are at the age where we want to stop around 100 miles anyway so that's plenty for us. Plan the stops and it works well.
Want to put this out first, great video! Also when you run your tank dry it will have the potential to burn up the pump because it is running dry and the fuel is a lubricant for the pump. Keep up the great videos and be safe out there.
Hi Brandon- I found the best alternative to bungee cords in Rok Straps.. grab a couple sets, toss them in a bag... you'll be golden with no paint issues. Cheers, Kim
@@BrandonBicasso My friend Steve and I took a bike trip from Iowa (he came from Cincinnati) he on his Harley Fat Bob and me on my Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster 1200 - we rode to Yellowstone, Devils Tower, Sturgis, Mt. Rushmore, Custer State Park/Needles Highway... it was amazing. Rok straps were used daily with dry bags and never failed. As for your rain problem...Nelson Rigg rain gear...make sure it has the heat pads on inner calf. Next year Blue Ridge Parkway from Iowa. Keep up the great content from an older biker lady. Kim
Man, I appreciate you taking a moment in time to just be in that moment. Very little of this is happening in the world that we live in. We miss opportunity after opportunity for adventure, magic, and interactions with others by just rushing through life with our blinders on. Thank you for this. Riding, in my opinion, aside from being a mode of transportation, is ALL about this. The experience, the adventure, the trip, not the destination. Way to be.
Recently, discovered/subscribed this channel. I LOVE this guy. His laid back, take it as it comes, attitude is infectious. That’s what riding should be.
Wow, that really demonstrates how speed modulation affects gas mileage. My Springfield almost-famously made it 189 miles in my Bun Burner Gold video series with a half gallon remaining, even though the gauge said I was below zero miles remaining. I think your test also shows the difference a light bike (and load LOL) make on mileage.
I ride a 22 Super Chief Limited. Loved this video! Been having some weird gas mileage issues after doing the Stage 1 Air Upgrade through the dealer a few weeks ago. Came across this video. Thank you.
This has to be the most organically simply and beautiful cruiser out there. So pure and classic in it's design. Beautiful! Truly! Thank you for the vid!
Jus found your channel when looking for Chief reviews, and I'm hooked already. I really love your whole tone and approach, and am enjoying going back through your content. Peace and prosperity from Mo City TX.
Enjoyed the video, and love your comment about the camaraderie. You are so correct. It's all about the people you meet. The shared stories, and relationships established. It's exactly how adventure happens. Beautiful Indian. Ride safe and enjoy!
As a gamer, writer, nerd, motorcycle enthusiast.... HELL, I feel like a jack of all trades, I am happy that I've come across this channel. It's quickly becoming my favorite youtube channel and totally love what you're doin. Keep up the great work my man, maybe I'll catch ya on the roads one day.
Pretty sweet seeing this! Chief is a contender for my next bike, whenever that ends up happening. Also cool that you have the sporty, biggest brother to my bike, a C50, which is also my very first bike. Love the videos Brandon! Keep riding, and stay safe out there.
At 61 and in our group rides w baggers we usually stop between 120-160 miles to stretch, bathroom break and fuel anyway. Depending on the days ride/plans I either take the Super Chief Limited or the Roadmaster. If the better half is with on her scout 60, or some guys w sportsters etc we stop around at a 100 miles or so. Fine with us as on long weekend rides it’s usually with the bigger baggers.
Personally, I'd say 150 is enough. That's about an hour and a half to two hours on the bike, which is just about right to give your body a rest. Albeit that rest is only the amount of time it take to fill up the bike again and hit the road. I've made many trips from DC out to TN and even down the AL on a HD Softtail. Great bike but I'm hoping this Chief will give me a little more comfort on the long road.
BB, adventurous and brave! But then that's what we bikers are, right? You represent us well, my friend. Thanks once again, for bringing your fellow riders along for the very legitimate experiment. You have done your followers a solid especially like you said, for those interested in Chief. Also, great example of the comradery amongst us riders with the encounter of the long haul Harley Rider. Keep 'em coming!
For touring bikes there is the convenience of not having to stop so often if you have a larger tank onboard, and when traveling in more remote areas, it’s added piece of mind. Realistically though, I think 150 miles is fine, that’s what my bike has though if it had just a tiny bit more like 175-200, that’d be ideal. Being on a bike, being forced to hop off at a gas station to fuel up is something I often look forward to on longer treks as it gives me a chance to stretch out, get some food or drink some water. In a car where you can move around though, I prefer as much range as possible. Great review, and I appreciate the more realistic approach to testing the bike’s range versus just doing a straight shot on the highway.
That was brave of you. Plus you came up with something to do on a vehicle you enjoy riding. How many cc's is that bike? It's a beautiful motorcycle. Thanks for sharing and please stay safe.
This is great. Good job Brandon. When I ride with the gf in the Indiana Kentucky area i look for the most off the trail small roads that go nowhere. I ended up on a dirt gravel pothole hill road. Bottomed out a couple times and thought I was on private land. Loved it because thats the adventure. Hidden gem homes and properties. Seeing horses and animals. The adventure is the ride. Also thank you for this little experiment is something i was curious about on chiefs smaller tank. Good job as always!
Great video Brandon! Really felt like I was sharing your adventure (just goes to show you don't have to go far to have an adventure). I really enjoyed your comments about being 'in the moment'. For those that don't understand that is when clear your mind of any other thoughts other than what is happening in that place and time. I even had a day working in a prison that I was able to stay in the moment all day...it was amazing!
@@dennishofmeister5167 I’ve done a good job at being willfully ignorant to mass media. If it doesn’t bring me happiness and furthers my goals, I don’t consume it. Or at least I limit the amount I consume to absolute crumbs of a minimum.
That’s what’s great about bikes. Constantly learning and adapting to get the job done. Finally got myself a scout 60 2 weeks ago. Bought as a second bike/gas bike and haven’t even sat on my Harley live wire since.
Just the other day I was riding with my brother and needed gas. Every town we went through he’d ask if I thought I could make it to the next one. My answer was always “Sure. Adventure time!” It’s more fun like that. His gf finally made us stop playing lol
I kinda got the feel of what I get from watching SAILING UMA with two people on a boat adventuring. Funny how this on the surface was about gas millage but really it was an adventure into unknown lands. I liked seeing where you went while we saw what happened on the way. Appreciate what you do and how you do it. as alwasy.
Such a good idea putting the gas can on the back, makes me want to try it with mine and see if I can get 200. Though the range usually shows 180-200 area, I wonder how accurate it is, and now seeing that quick about the m109r tank I will probably keep from doing that test. I have run out of gas on one bike, my first bike. It’s a not fun feeling when you have no extra tank (then I remembered the reserve switch!!😂). That dirt rode would have been great in “rain mode”. I bet you found that out anyway👍🏼
I'm in the process of getting another bike. I'm torn between the Scout and or the Chief. I appreciate your honest comments, they are helping me through the process. I'm leaning towards the Chief.
And to answer Ur question I did a Euro trip(rode my bike from England where I live to Poland where I'm from on all my bikes) 1000miles in one go normaly round 18 hours. I did it on a BMW R1100S sports turer as well as Daytona 955i sports bike. I did it solo and with friends on their bikes so every bike had different fule consumption and range so what we use to do we had a fule stop once every hour to hour and a half. We normaly were doing round 90-110mph(exept Germany where autobahns are de restricted so there it was 110-130mhp) so in a 1000miles trip we would had 8-10 fule stops not more 5-10minuts with a quick stretch and a toilet brake(never wear a one pice leather suit on a long trip cause toilet brakes will take U forever!!) and yes even thou my bike woule be able to go further I found it best for concentration and relaxation to stop once every hour/ hour and a half. Riding tired is the biggest mistake especially at night at high speeds so the key os to stay fresh and focus!
Brandon, Thank You So Much for doing this video. Absolutely great to KNOW what the actual mileage is. My stage lengths vary from 160-ish to approx. 185 miles. I wanted to know what it actually was BEFORE I put money on the counter top and buy one. NOW, I know and will go ahead and purchase the chief...I'm thinking...Super Chief Limited. Any comments are appreciated. Again, Thank You Brandon! I appreciate you making this video!
Sure thing! I'm currently rebuilding a Super Chief. It really depends on what you plan to do with the bike. Good thing is, if you want Super Chief functionality, you can always buy those parts later. It's all interchangeable. I'd go Super Chief if you want the chrome look. Otherwise, get the one you want and change it up later.
I ride a Yamaha Raider which also has a four gallon tank. I “typically” get about 45 MPG so I’m looking for a station after around 120-130 miles. And it’s usually time for a butt break anyway so it works for me. I live in northwestern Wisconsin with no Interstate Highways nearby so the pace is slower too.
Great video and a fair presentation on the topic. I must admit I suffer from range anxiety and where I live the distance between gas stations is about its reasonable range so while it can make it sometimes the focus would become strategies to make it instead of just letting it all go. Add any load like inclement weather, two-up, a head wind or pushing it a little harder or if it’s hopped up and all off a sudden a jerry can in your saddlebag is your constant companion. I love the looks of the bike but can’t help but wonder what it would look like with a 5 or 5.5 gallon tank because I would want the saddlebag space back…or extra piece of mind.
Very good and interesting video! I just listen to what my body is saying to me, when riding. Of course I keep up with the mileage, cause I ride a Scout. But, my ass will say...pull over and stop...get off this bike, NOW!=) I average around 50mpg, and as you know, you know when it's time to start looking for a station! Ride and stay safe Bicasso!=)
The Google Maps on my phone and associated RAM Mount led me down a dirt road once while on a 400+ mile round trip on my little Yamaha MT-03 to northern Michigan earlier this spring, and I did the same thing! It was about a mile and a half long, but I tackled it and learned a lot. (edit . . . didn't drop it either . . . nice and easy, and wasn't in a hurry)
I'd like 200 miles per tank. riding through some states gas stations are far and few between and you may still have 1/2 a tank but may not make it to the next station. so this causes you to fill up at times when you still have 1/2 a tank full... but in long rides I use a 2gal gas blander to have piece of mind.
Hi Brandon I went from N.E. Ohio to Virginia and rode the (Back of the Dragon) If you ever get a chance it will be well worth your time. I found it to be much better than tail of the dragon.
When I had my 2015 Roadmaster my gps took me down a super sketchy dirt road. It was like 3 miles long. There is nothing like taking a 930 bike down a road for 3 miles doing about 10 miles an hour while going "I'm screwed if I drop this". That one I won't forget.
Good video. I enjoyed your comments about the pleasure of the ride. As to your 150 mile question. Riding in the western US, I would say that 150 is the minimum I would accept. Our problem is that there are roads through mountain passes and across deserts that can take you 90 miles between gas stations. So, if you're not strategic about planning your route, you can pass up that last gas station with 1/2 tank and get into trouble. I was riding eastbound out of Puyallup on SR410 to Mt. Rainier one Sunday afternoon. That road to the mountain takes you to National Park roads, up to the visitor center and you have to double back to get out. No gas stations 'til you get back or through the park. Coming back in the late afternoon I was hoping I would make it but was prepared to do some walking. Unfortunately I took a wrong turn and ended up heading through the park instead of back the way I came. Washington state is terrible with their road signs. Their attitude is, once you made the mistake then you'll know next time. So my low fuel light came on as the sun set and the temperature dropped. I was frantic to fuel up, picturing myself parked on the berm, huddled under the bike to stay warm through the night. But the road follows a river with some summer homes along the banks. I found one with the lights on and had to had to knock on this strangers' door and beg for gas to get to a gas station. He recognized my distress and was very understanding. Fortunately, not only was his lawn mower a four stroke and he had a gallon to spare, but he also dug up an old sweater for me to put under my jacket. Hikers die from exposure on the mountain all the time so he very well may have saved my life. That was 43 years ago and I'll never forget Mr. Edens' kindness. The moral of the story is, make sure you have enough gas to get you through your trip plus some for any mistakes you make along the way.
Fun fact kids the best speed for eco riding is 56mph(90kmh) at this speed the math equation of fastest speed at which you can travel to the friction of passing air! Other trick is to use rain mode for low fuel moments! Most rain modes will reduce the power output of the bike (my moto Guzzi California Audace 1400 has 1/3 less power in rain mode then turing or sport) plus the throttle is more soft in response so you tend to be more smooth with it so less abrupt acceleration less fuel usage!
Nowhere near enough for me. A 4 gallon tank would drive me bonkers, I think. I like the 5.8 gallon tank on my Victory Cross Country. I can count on it delivering me 200+, regardless of how I'm riding the bike, and I think that's a good range. By that point, I'm usually looking to stand up and stretch anyway, so it's a good balance. My Triumph Tiger 1200 has a 5.2 gallon tank, and I wish it were bigger. I start looking for a gas station at about 140-150, which usually feels too soon for me. I'd like a 6 gallon tank on it, for the kind of riding I do on that bike.
Indian must really like you. They lend them out? I wouldn't show them this video where you're going down rough dirt roads and running it on empty on cruise control. 😬😆😁 Still a fun video to watch. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.
Best to consider bladder range first and fuel range second. I imagine that riding for long distance would mean not necessarily having to be in a hurry so enjoying the ride, the scenery and rest stops is more or less the point.
I have never ran my Raider dry but found out that running it too low burns it up. Yamaha keeps its fuel pump cool by it sitting in a small reservoir. Which so happens to be your reserve... Thanks for sharing and keeping me wanting another Indian. I liked my scout but it was too small for me. I am about the same size as you and that bike looks plenty big. I just cant see dropping that much cash on a bike, thats my only hold up.
Not bad. I was able to get 140 on my scout bobber at one point. Just cruising and taking it easy on back roads. I usually fuel up at around 120 to 130 ish so 20 to 30 extra miles isn't that big of a deal to me but I definitely wouldn't mind it it either.
Excellent video sir 150 ain't bad but 225 is definitely more comfortable granted like you said people will probably rest way before that but if new motorcycles have taught me anything now a days more buttons more features and better gas mileage is the way of the future and keeps chief in the game
@@BrandonBicasso yes sir school has been amazing!!!only 7 more months left. I have been inspired from you sir I always take short trips on my bike afraid of prelong speed and the highway etc. But no more I have found away to take back roads all the way to Melbourne Beach I drove the rout in my car I'm familiar with it it's a solid two and a half hour drive so my first big road trip on my bike starts today
Another great video. 150 miles is enough. In most cases, that's 2 hours of riding...you should take a break. Also, on your dirt road ride, I do not trust Ride Command at all in rural areas. We were trying to work around a closed road in western NC this weekend and I was running Ride Command and Google Maps (on my phone) and more than once Ride Command wanted me to go off on gravel roads, no fun at all on a Road Master, been there done that, lol.
Good info, great video. I hate how the fuel/mileage indicator just shows "low" rather than low/how many miles are left. It's the same way on my 2018 Springfield Dark Horse.
Ever since UV rays from the sun ate my odometer, sputtering or dying is my reserve warning. Not a big deal since I have a reserve petcock, I rarely ride more than 20 or 30 miles anymore, and I usually eyeball the tank before or after after a few rides.
WTH!! TWO trys to start that new Indian? Mine's a 2014 and fires on first crank. That's with aftermarket pipes and air..ha ha.. Beautiful video though man. EVERY video you shoot I feel like you're taking that EXTRA time to get good shots and really add to the entertainment value. As a content creator I learn a LOT watching your videos.
@@BrandonBicasso I meant in the garage at the beginning but that's ok. Of COURSE I have questions but man if I start pelting you with audio video questions you'll end up hiding from me ha ha. I keep learning by watching. I watch you, Brian Remington, Shade Tree Surgeon, Her two wheels... Very different styles yet very effective.
Looking "hopping "for a gas station is also part of that adventure, thank for the info about the range on the Chief, Is the screen adjustable? "every road leads to a empty tank" Stay Safe.
Ironic that you stopped at an old gas station: you set your fuel container down on the old island with the two square holes where The old pumps had been torn out.
Great video ! I kept seeing Kramer’s face ;). Hey I’ve never ever seen that type of filler on the fuel container before. we don’t have them like that in Australia just the screw on type. Did you buy locally ? Cheers mate.
Come on up to Indiana with that dude 😁 Us old carbed bikes: always check the petcock selection when filling up, my biggest worry is having it stumble and find out I forgot to take it off reserve after the last fill up 😅
I wouldn't mind at all. I don't want to ride longer than 150 miles a time. Need a drink and my emptying my bladder. And of course, taking a look at the scenery where you just stopped. Even in your video you already said it to me. You stopped at that house. You said they where cool people there. In the gas station you talked to A biker. He was cool also. You meet people by stopping. And that's what I like about riding too. The ride, the being on my own, the time to process all the things going on in my life, meeting strangers, talking to strangers, breath in the vibes surrounding me,.... Damn i love riding.😁😁
What would have been your "ideal place to run out" then? If you run out, you run out ! A rail Xing could be a little dodgy but otherwise you just stop, refill then move on... end of story. A good video.., if only for the countryside! But, keep these strange ideas coming Brandon, altho a little different than your usual (Suzuki) offerings I kinda like them. Stay safe, greetings from a Suzi rider in 🇨🇭, Steve.
Will it be a Scout or a Chief or Springfield?? Still thinkin' on it., and have for months now. But yes I did enjoy your vid because I too was concerned about tank size & actual miles you can achieve out of a 4 gallon tank. So, somewhere between 150 - 225 mpg is a Big Difference. You gave a strong point though as you said... your body needs a brake at about 100-120 miles anyway. Thus I'm thinkin'..... well yes that 4 gallon tank is sufficient, even though I would much prefer a bigger tank. I'm not planning on any long hauls out of Boston NewEngland to So Cal, but more like hitchin a mini mtr.cy.camper to the back & heading for the hills in Maine, N.H., etc. In that case a Scout wouldn't do the job. It won't be a trike, because you loose some of the rush of the twisties. You can tell I'm still shopping. But again keep those vids comin.
I've never hit bone dry on my tank, but my first trip up through Michigan I was in single digits going over the makinaw bridge. There was gridlock traffic and I had to ride the shoulder with my dad until we got to the toll booth on the far side of the bridge. What are your leanings between Scout and the Chief after this many miles on the new bike?
I haven't pushed mine to dead empty but I usually have the ~1 gallon remaining warning on mine after ~120 miles. This Rocket 3 is not forgiving on the guzzle juice.
I need to smoke every hour or so making range irrelevant unless out in the sticks (like where I live). I have never purposely ran ANYTHING out of gas! That is like purposely losing your keys or wallet (never done that either). Nice experiment, though. Your videos are always great! Looking forward to the next one.
We are from different generations and I ride a 2018 Harley Davidson Heritage. It amazes me how a steel frame, two wheels and a motor can bring different people together. You do a great job, love your videos.
Yeah Brandon 150 is enough,, sometimes you want more though...... my old XS1100,, with my 6.3 tank gets me about 200 miles,, "DEPENDING", it's carbureted , it's old, it's a GAS HOG,, and if I'm driving about 80-90 I'll be eating some serious gasoline> 20+ mpg. However in that same old beast if I'm doing nothing over say 65mph I'll get right up to 50 mpg!
150 is enough if you know what your limit is... my Chieftain gets around 41-43 at 65-70 but if I drop it to 58-64 she will jump to 52.. good to know on the Chief my son is looking at one and we usually stop anywhere from 150 - 180 anyway
Click the like button and share a story you’ve learned from riding a motorcycle. Using bungie cords is a good one for me. 😂👌🏾
225 miles damn, that's good! How many miles did you manage AFTER it said 0 tank range?
@@DazzleRebel When it showed “Low Miles” maybe 40? I wish I had access to the owner’s manual to see how much is left in the tank when that message shows. Maybe it’s a gallon, half or third. Not sure.
I have never been a fan of bungee cords. But the 1” wide Safari Straps I have are great. Each strap is 6ft long and can be joined together. Been using them for 6 years through rain, snow, hot summers, strapping down a large sleeping mat, backpack and teepee tent on my back seat. You should have a look at Safari Straps, they’re made in USA, right in Santa Clarita, CA.
You didn't need a jerrycan. You could have used 2 or 4 cola bottles. I guess those would fit in the saddle bags.
@@receptieletoile7595 100%. But it’s better to be over prepared especially since you don’t really know where you’re going to get stuck.
I enjoyed your experiment. I have a Victory Vision Tour and have found that I average between 42 and 45 miles per gallon cruising around both town and country. I rarely go faster than 70 even though we have an 80 mph speed limit on the interstates. While a much heavier bike than the Chief, it is very aerodynamic. How you ride will affect mileage, but what is most important is enjoying the ride and seeing the sites. I can go 250 miles easily with a full tank, but my 66 year old bladder only has a 120 mile capacity so our bodies determine our fuel and rest stops. We ride because, riding a motorcycle is about the most fun a man can have with his clothes on. Ride on, Brother!
Well said, Vincent. ❤️👌🏾
I used to ride my Honda Gold Wing. Up into the mountains of E TN and N GA. And Western NC. Found some amazing places! I love that Chief! Indian will sell millions
I really like your casual videos, like this one, talking about the mentality and joy of riding. I'm trying to cultivate that same mindset. Just enjoying the moments
We all have those moments. Some just live in the moment longer than others. Trying to live longer in my own. 👌🏾
13:00 I laughed way more than I should when you were filling up the bike... 😂👍
I didn’t realize how wild that scene got until I was editing 😂😂😂😂
Good video! My wife bought a Super Chief Limited and put over 4,000 miles on it in a month. She was getting over 50 mpg on regular roads and in the mountains. Freeway speeds of around 80 reduced her mileage to about 40-42. We are at the age where we want to stop around 100 miles anyway so that's plenty for us. Plan the stops and it works well.
That’s awesome, Chuck. 💪🏾
Want to put this out first, great video! Also when you run your tank dry it will have the potential to burn up the pump because it is running dry and the fuel is a lubricant for the pump. Keep up the great videos and be safe out there.
Hi Brandon- I found the best alternative to bungee cords in Rok Straps.. grab a couple sets, toss them in a bag... you'll be golden with no paint issues. Cheers, Kim
I need to reach out to ROK because I’m getting so many recommendations for them 🥴
@@BrandonBicasso My friend Steve and I took a bike trip from Iowa (he came from Cincinnati) he on his Harley Fat Bob and me on my Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster 1200 - we rode to Yellowstone, Devils Tower, Sturgis, Mt. Rushmore, Custer State Park/Needles Highway... it was amazing. Rok straps were used daily with dry bags and never failed. As for your rain problem...Nelson Rigg rain gear...make sure it has the heat pads on inner calf.
Next year Blue Ridge Parkway from Iowa. Keep up the great content from an older biker lady. Kim
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Man, I appreciate you taking a moment in time to just be in that moment. Very little of this is happening in the world that we live in. We miss opportunity after opportunity for adventure, magic, and interactions with others by just rushing through life with our blinders on. Thank you for this. Riding, in my opinion, aside from being a mode of transportation, is ALL about this. The experience, the adventure, the trip, not the destination. Way to be.
Yep. I try to practice this everyday when I can. Makes the day and mood so much better. 👌🏾
I’m officially gonna talk to my bike every time I fill up now lol.
😂😂😂😂😂 It might talk back if you get creative enough.
Recently, discovered/subscribed this channel.
I LOVE this guy.
His laid back, take it as it comes, attitude is infectious.
That’s what riding should be.
Thank you, Jerry!
Great video man! I really liked this style of videography you made for yourself 🤙🏼
Thanks Jerry!
Need that griot's garage bug and tar remover. Works like a champ.
On another note this was a cool video. Good information for people looking at chief.
Dang you make all the bikes look good, great taste. I miss the videos keep it up 👍🏼
I try, I try.
I pushed my old shadow 1100 to 150 miles on a full tank but 20 of those miles were on reserve, I love my old shadow. That chief looks like a good bike
Started riding on a Shadow. Got good love for the Shadow!
@@BrandonBicasso been cheep and super reliable, never had any issues with it, super easy to work on, does highway speeds easily
Wow, that really demonstrates how speed modulation affects gas mileage. My Springfield almost-famously made it 189 miles in my Bun Burner Gold video series with a half gallon remaining, even though the gauge said I was below zero miles remaining. I think your test also shows the difference a light bike (and load LOL) make on mileage.
Yes, weight makes a HUGE difference 😅
@@BrandonBicasso hahaha you said “weight”. I think my bike actually gets lighter when I get on it🤪🤪🤪
I ride a 22 Super Chief Limited. Loved this video! Been having some weird gas mileage issues after doing the Stage 1 Air Upgrade through the dealer a few weeks ago. Came across this video. Thank you.
Sure thing!
This has to be the most organically simply and beautiful cruiser out there. So pure and classic in it's design. Beautiful! Truly! Thank you for the vid!
Glad you enjoyed it 🤓
Nice lil adventure. I think for me 150 is good, but I’m not doing major long hauls.
Jus found your channel when looking for Chief reviews, and I'm hooked already. I really love your whole tone and approach, and am enjoying going back through your content. Peace and prosperity from Mo City TX.
Enjoyed the video, and love your comment about the camaraderie. You are so correct. It's all about the people you meet. The shared stories, and relationships established. It's exactly how adventure happens. Beautiful Indian. Ride safe and enjoy!
As a gamer, writer, nerd, motorcycle enthusiast.... HELL, I feel like a jack of all trades, I am happy that I've come across this channel. It's quickly becoming my favorite youtube channel and totally love what you're doin. Keep up the great work my man, maybe I'll catch ya on the roads one day.
Thank you for that!
"Yeah baby. Get yo gas baby" was my favourite part lmao. Love it! Thanks for the video
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Pretty sweet seeing this! Chief is a contender for my next bike, whenever that ends up happening. Also cool that you have the sporty, biggest brother to my bike, a C50, which is also my very first bike.
Love the videos Brandon! Keep riding, and stay safe out there.
At 61 and in our group rides w baggers we usually stop between 120-160 miles to stretch, bathroom break and fuel anyway. Depending on the days ride/plans I either take the Super Chief Limited or the Roadmaster. If the better half is with on her scout 60, or some guys w sportsters etc we stop around at a 100 miles or so. Fine with us as on long weekend rides it’s usually with the bigger baggers.
Personally, I'd say 150 is enough. That's about an hour and a half to two hours on the bike, which is just about right to give your body a rest. Albeit that rest is only the amount of time it take to fill up the bike again and hit the road.
I've made many trips from DC out to TN and even down the AL on a HD Softtail. Great bike but I'm hoping this Chief will give me a little more comfort on the long road.
Great video as always my brother.
BB, adventurous and brave! But then that's what we bikers are, right? You represent us well, my friend. Thanks once again, for bringing your fellow riders along for the very legitimate experiment. You have done your followers a solid especially like you said, for those interested in Chief. Also, great example of the comradery amongst us riders with the encounter of the long haul Harley Rider. Keep 'em coming!
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I enjoy your mellow communication skills. Thanks.
For touring bikes there is the convenience of not having to stop so often if you have a larger tank onboard, and when traveling in more remote areas, it’s added piece of mind. Realistically though, I think 150 miles is fine, that’s what my bike has though if it had just a tiny bit more like 175-200, that’d be ideal. Being on a bike, being forced to hop off at a gas station to fuel up is something I often look forward to on longer treks as it gives me a chance to stretch out, get some food or drink some water. In a car where you can move around though, I prefer as much range as possible. Great review, and I appreciate the more realistic approach to testing the bike’s range versus just doing a straight shot on the highway.
That was brave of you. Plus you came up with something to do on a vehicle you enjoy riding. How many cc's is that bike? It's a beautiful motorcycle. Thanks for sharing and please stay safe.
1890cc
I think this should be the new standard for all manufacturers to give range tbh. Like this is real REAL world testing. Brilliant video as always man.
Just out there having fun with a gas can 😂👌🏾
@@BrandonBicasso It's how I'm going to test every bike I ever buy again now :D
Excellent adventure. Nice day, new roads, new experiences, new knowledge, and new people. What more can you ask?
This is great. Good job Brandon. When I ride with the gf in the Indiana Kentucky area i look for the most off the trail small roads that go nowhere. I ended up on a dirt gravel pothole hill road. Bottomed out a couple times and thought I was on private land. Loved it because thats the adventure. Hidden gem homes and properties. Seeing horses and animals. The adventure is the ride. Also thank you for this little experiment is something i was curious about on chiefs smaller tank. Good job as always!
Sure thing!
Great video Brandon! Really felt like I was sharing your adventure (just goes to show you don't have to go far to have an adventure). I really enjoyed your comments about being 'in the moment'. For those that don't understand that is when clear your mind of any other thoughts other than what is happening in that place and time. I even had a day working in a prison that I was able to stay in the moment all day...it was amazing!
Stillness is the Key. 🤌🏾❤️
@@BrandonBicasso For sure! Not easy with everything going on in the world, but worth the effort.
@@dennishofmeister5167 I’ve done a good job at being willfully ignorant to mass media. If it doesn’t bring me happiness and furthers my goals, I don’t consume it. Or at least I limit the amount I consume to absolute crumbs of a minimum.
That’s what’s great about bikes. Constantly learning and adapting to get the job done. Finally got myself a scout 60 2 weeks ago. Bought as a second bike/gas bike and haven’t even sat on my Harley live wire since.
Very cool! I still haven’t been on a Livewire yet 🤣
If your ever up in Chesapeake Virginia hit me up and take it out
Such a great video brother. Keep it up 👍🏾
Bro! I see that Office Space poster! Ride safe my man!
One of the all time favs. 😁👌🏾
I’m glad you were able to get the gas in without having the bike tip over
Rok Straps are awesome for adjustable tie down. Great to meat you at the Folds of Honor ride. My 2nd Indian is the SCL 116
It was great to meet you as well!
Just the other day I was riding with my brother and needed gas. Every town we went through he’d ask if I thought I could make it to the next one. My answer was always “Sure. Adventure time!” It’s more fun like that. His gf finally made us stop playing lol
Recently found you thru a blockhead vid from indian ride demos. Love your channel keep it up man ride safe
Thanks, Barry 💪🏾
I kinda got the feel of what I get from watching SAILING UMA with two people on a boat adventuring. Funny how this on the surface was about gas millage but really it was an adventure into unknown lands. I liked seeing where you went while we saw what happened on the way. Appreciate what you do and how you do it. as alwasy.
Thank you 💪🏾
Such a good idea putting the gas can on the back, makes me want to try it with mine and see if I can get 200. Though the range usually shows 180-200 area, I wonder how accurate it is, and now seeing that quick about the m109r tank I will probably keep from doing that test. I have run out of gas on one bike, my first bike. It’s a not fun feeling when you have no extra tank (then I remembered the reserve switch!!😂). That dirt rode would have been great in “rain mode”. I bet you found that out anyway👍🏼
I definitely didn’t have Chief in Standard or Sport 😂😂😂
@@BrandonBicasso you always bring that good sense to the world!
I enjoy the tour mode too. I did that for a week, switched to standard and was like... wow. Indian hit a HR with the '22
The modes make a difference 👌🏾🤓
I'm in the process of getting another bike. I'm torn between the Scout and or the Chief. I appreciate your honest comments, they are helping me through the process. I'm leaning towards the Chief.
Definitely get a ride on both for that final thought.
And to answer Ur question I did a Euro trip(rode my bike from England where I live to Poland where I'm from on all my bikes) 1000miles in one go normaly round 18 hours. I did it on a BMW R1100S sports turer as well as Daytona 955i sports bike. I did it solo and with friends on their bikes so every bike had different fule consumption and range so what we use to do we had a fule stop once every hour to hour and a half. We normaly were doing round 90-110mph(exept Germany where autobahns are de restricted so there it was 110-130mhp) so in a 1000miles trip we would had 8-10 fule stops not more 5-10minuts with a quick stretch and a toilet brake(never wear a one pice leather suit on a long trip cause toilet brakes will take U forever!!) and yes even thou my bike woule be able to go further I found it best for concentration and relaxation to stop once every hour/ hour and a half. Riding tired is the biggest mistake especially at night at high speeds so the key os to stay fresh and focus!
Lmao. A one piece suit in a public restroom is horrific 😂😂
Excellent video, 56 mpg isn't bad for a bike with some power, a bit of that on dirt roads. I would want a bigger tank -
Brandon, Thank You So Much for doing this video. Absolutely great to KNOW what the actual mileage is. My stage lengths vary from 160-ish to approx. 185 miles. I wanted to know what it actually was BEFORE I put money on the counter top and buy one. NOW, I know and will go ahead and purchase the chief...I'm thinking...Super Chief Limited. Any comments are appreciated. Again, Thank You Brandon! I appreciate you making this video!
Sure thing! I'm currently rebuilding a Super Chief. It really depends on what you plan to do with the bike. Good thing is, if you want Super Chief functionality, you can always buy those parts later. It's all interchangeable. I'd go Super Chief if you want the chrome look. Otherwise, get the one you want and change it up later.
Thanks that was cool never seen that before I always worried about running out of gas on my Yamaha.
I ride a Yamaha Raider which also has a four gallon tank. I “typically” get about 45 MPG so I’m looking for a station after around 120-130 miles. And it’s usually time for a butt break anyway so it works for me. I live in northwestern Wisconsin with no Interstate Highways nearby so the pace is slower too.
Totally enjoying your vlogs, keep up the great work.
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Great video and a fair presentation on the topic.
I must admit I suffer from range anxiety and where I live the distance between gas stations is about its reasonable range so while it can make it sometimes the focus would become strategies to make it instead of just letting it all go.
Add any load like inclement weather, two-up, a head wind or pushing it a little harder or if it’s hopped up and all off a sudden a jerry can in your saddlebag is your constant companion.
I love the looks of the bike but can’t help but wonder what it would look like with a 5 or 5.5 gallon tank because I would want the saddlebag space back…or extra piece of mind.
Great review..many thanks
Very good and interesting video! I just listen to what my body is saying to me, when riding. Of course I keep up with the mileage, cause I ride a Scout. But, my ass will say...pull over and stop...get off this bike, NOW!=) I average around 50mpg, and as you know, you know when it's time to start looking for a station! Ride and stay safe Bicasso!=)
The Google Maps on my phone and associated RAM Mount led me down a dirt road once while on a 400+ mile round trip on my little Yamaha MT-03 to northern Michigan earlier this spring, and I did the same thing! It was about a mile and a half long, but I tackled it and learned a lot. (edit . . . didn't drop it either . . . nice and easy, and wasn't in a hurry)
Lol, sounds like a solid adventure 😂💪🏾
I'd like 200 miles per tank. riding through some states gas stations are far and few between and you may still have 1/2 a tank but may not make it to the next station. so this causes you to fill up at times when you still have 1/2 a tank full... but in long rides I use a 2gal gas blander to have piece of mind.
Hi Brandon I went from N.E. Ohio to Virginia and rode the (Back of the Dragon) If you ever get a chance it will be well worth your time. I found it to be much better than tail of the dragon.
I’ve recently heard more about the Back. Definitely will have to try it.
When I had my 2015 Roadmaster my gps took me down a super sketchy dirt road. It was like 3 miles long. There is nothing like taking a 930 bike down a road for 3 miles doing about 10 miles an hour while going "I'm screwed if I drop this". That one I won't forget.
Oh that’s very sketch 😂
Great video and adventure. I'm looking at the indian scout sixty. It will my first bike.
Heck yeah. Shoot for the goal. You’ll love it.
Sweet video. Enjoyed the concept and execution. Oh, bungee net next time…
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Good video. I enjoyed your comments about the pleasure of the ride. As to your 150 mile question. Riding in the western US, I would say that 150 is the minimum I would accept. Our problem is that there are roads through mountain passes and across deserts that can take you 90 miles between gas stations. So, if you're not strategic about planning your route, you can pass up that last gas station with 1/2 tank and get into trouble.
I was riding eastbound out of Puyallup on SR410 to Mt. Rainier one Sunday afternoon. That road to the mountain takes you to National Park roads, up to the visitor center and you have to double back to get out. No gas stations 'til you get back or through the park. Coming back in the late afternoon I was hoping I would make it but was prepared to do some walking. Unfortunately I took a wrong turn and ended up heading through the park instead of back the way I came. Washington state is terrible with their road signs. Their attitude is, once you made the mistake then you'll know next time. So my low fuel light came on as the sun set and the temperature dropped. I was frantic to fuel up, picturing myself parked on the berm, huddled under the bike to stay warm through the night. But the road follows a river with some summer homes along the banks. I found one with the lights on and had to had to knock on this strangers' door and beg for gas to get to a gas station. He recognized my distress and was very understanding. Fortunately, not only was his lawn mower a four stroke and he had a gallon to spare, but he also dug up an old sweater for me to put under my jacket. Hikers die from exposure on the mountain all the time so he very well may have saved my life. That was 43 years ago and I'll never forget Mr. Edens' kindness.
The moral of the story is, make sure you have enough gas to get you through your trip plus some for any mistakes you make along the way.
Holy cow now that’s a story!!! I love it although it was a huge misfortune initially. Wow.
Fun fact kids the best speed for eco riding is 56mph(90kmh) at this speed the math equation of fastest speed at which you can travel to the friction of passing air! Other trick is to use rain mode for low fuel moments! Most rain modes will reduce the power output of the bike (my moto Guzzi California Audace 1400 has 1/3 less power in rain mode then turing or sport) plus the throttle is more soft in response so you tend to be more smooth with it so less abrupt acceleration less fuel usage!
If not for power modes, I’d be pulling off from every stop light aggressively 🤣
Great video buddy I just discovered your channel through a friend of mine Brian Remington
That Gent. ❤️ Welcome!
Being in the moment is what all motorcyclists should achieve every time out.
Nowhere near enough for me. A 4 gallon tank would drive me bonkers, I think.
I like the 5.8 gallon tank on my Victory Cross Country. I can count on it delivering me 200+, regardless of how I'm riding the bike, and I think that's a good range. By that point, I'm usually looking to stand up and stretch anyway, so it's a good balance.
My Triumph Tiger 1200 has a 5.2 gallon tank, and I wish it were bigger. I start looking for a gas station at about 140-150, which usually feels too soon for me. I'd like a 6 gallon tank on it, for the kind of riding I do on that bike.
Fair enough, but that’s the benefit of a cross country touring motorcycle 😂💪🏾
@@BrandonBicasso too true :)
Indian must really like you. They lend them out? I wouldn't show them this video where you're going down rough dirt roads and running it on empty on cruise control. 😬😆😁
Still a fun video to watch. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.
That’s just water to rinse it off and adding fuel. 🤷🏾♂️ All of it good info for people.👌🏾Plus, dirt roads were Ride Command’s fault. 😂
Love the super chief, in the uk they cost £22,000, I’ll look for a used one soon
If only you could buy my white super Chief in the states 🌚
to clean a windshield use dishwasher liquid
works wonders
Best to consider bladder range first and fuel range second.
I imagine that riding for long distance would mean not necessarily having to be in a hurry so enjoying the ride, the scenery and rest stops is more or less the point.
My bladder issues intensify every time I hit a bump 😂😂😂
I have never ran my Raider dry but found out that running it too low burns it up. Yamaha keeps its fuel pump cool by it sitting in a small reservoir. Which so happens to be your reserve... Thanks for sharing and keeping me wanting another Indian. I liked my scout but it was too small for me. I am about the same size as you and that bike looks plenty big. I just cant see dropping that much cash on a bike, thats my only hold up.
Yeah, 20K is a lot 😳
Not bad. I was able to get 140 on my scout bobber at one point. Just cruising and taking it easy on back roads. I usually fuel up at around 120 to 130 ish so 20 to 30 extra miles isn't that big of a deal to me but I definitely wouldn't mind it it either.
Excellent video sir 150 ain't bad but 225 is definitely more comfortable granted like you said people will probably rest way before that but if new motorcycles have taught me anything now a days more buttons more features and better gas mileage is the way of the future and keeps chief in the game
Yes sir! Less Probs, More Smiles. Hope school is going well for you. 👌🏾❤️
@@BrandonBicasso yes sir school has been amazing!!!only 7 more months left. I have been inspired from you sir I always take short trips on my bike afraid of prelong speed and the highway etc. But no more I have found away to take back roads all the way to Melbourne Beach I drove the rout in my car I'm familiar with it it's a solid two and a half hour drive so my first big road trip on my bike starts today
Heck yeah. Enjoy it!
Another great video. 150 miles is enough. In most cases, that's 2 hours of riding...you should take a break. Also, on your dirt road ride, I do not trust Ride Command at all in rural areas. We were trying to work around a closed road in western NC this weekend and I was running Ride Command and Google Maps (on my phone) and more than once Ride Command wanted me to go off on gravel roads, no fun at all on a Road Master, been there done that, lol.
Oh, that would be crazy on a Road Master. I was full send on the Chief 😂😂😂😂
Good info, great video. I hate how the fuel/mileage indicator just shows "low" rather than low/how many miles are left. It's the same way on my 2018 Springfield Dark Horse.
That's Indian's way of forcing us to get to a gas station, lol. We COULD show you this, but you'd just run it closer to 0 pressing your luck.
@@BrandonBicasso hahaha
Ever since UV rays from the sun ate my odometer, sputtering or dying is my reserve warning. Not a big deal since I have a reserve petcock, I rarely ride more than 20 or 30 miles anymore, and I usually eyeball the tank before or after after a few rides.
That’s OG riding.
WTH!! TWO trys to start that new Indian?
Mine's a 2014 and fires on first crank. That's with aftermarket pipes and air..ha ha..
Beautiful video though man.
EVERY video you shoot I feel like you're taking that EXTRA time to get good shots and really add to the entertainment value.
As a content creator I learn a LOT watching your videos.
Had 36 miles left on the tank, lol. Scavenging for fuel. And it’s worth the fun! Hit me up if you ever have questions.
@@BrandonBicasso I meant in the garage at the beginning but that's ok.
Of COURSE I have questions but man if I start pelting you with audio video questions you'll end up hiding from me ha ha.
I keep learning by watching.
I watch you, Brian Remington, Shade Tree Surgeon, Her two wheels...
Very different styles yet very effective.
Yeah, in the garage it was almost out of gas too. 😂😂😂😂😂
Looking "hopping "for a gas station is also part of that adventure, thank for the info about the range on the Chief, Is the screen adjustable? "every road leads to a empty tank" Stay Safe.
The screen isn’t unfortunately. It should be to reduce glare, though.
Brandon,suggestion,try ROK strap's,you will thank yourself,Spazz in Cali.
Got it!
Ironic that you stopped at an old gas station: you set your fuel container down on the old island with the two square holes where The old pumps had been torn out.
I noticed that as well. Wasn’t planned 😅
Nice video brother 👍
Great video ! I kept seeing Kramer’s face ;). Hey I’ve never ever seen that type of filler on the fuel container before. we don’t
have them like that in Australia just the screw on type. Did you buy locally ? Cheers mate.
Locally, yes. In the states, we have to use the child proof fillers. 👌🏾
@@BrandonBicasso thanks I’ll look online.
150 miles is enough I was on my roadmaster pulling a trailer in Wyoming and South Dakota and stopped every 120 and only got worried once
Hi Brandon, great content as always. Just wanna pick up your quick thoughts over FatBob114 vs Chief Dark Horse? Maybe a vid? Peace&Love
Don’t have enough experience with FatBob for an opinion. I rode one back in 2017 only for maybe 5 minutes so I can’t really give a thought on it now.
hey bro. use a dryer sheet (laundry) on those bugs...
Wet of course then rince
true story
Ooo that’ll make it smell better too. Give it a lil bounce 💪🏾
Come on up to Indiana with that dude 😁
Us old carbed bikes: always check the petcock selection when filling up, my biggest worry is having it stumble and find out I forgot to take it off reserve after the last fill up 😅
Oh man 🤣 So glad I have fuel injection, lol. Never owned a carb bike but maybe one day…
@@BrandonBicasso Not as bad as people make it out to be...as long as it starts out in good tune :D
Depending on my mood I'll either use bungie cords as a makeshift seatbelt or a touring hammock. 😎 Security blanket status.
I wouldn't mind at all. I don't want to ride longer than 150 miles a time. Need a drink and my emptying my bladder. And of course, taking a look at the scenery where you just stopped. Even in your video you already said it to me. You stopped at that house. You said they where cool people there. In the gas station you talked to A biker. He was cool also. You meet people by stopping. And that's what I like about riding too. The ride, the being on my own, the time to process all the things going on in my life, meeting strangers, talking to strangers, breath in the vibes surrounding me,.... Damn i love riding.😁😁
I agree! That’s part of the experience.
What would have been your "ideal place to run out" then?
If you run out, you run out !
A rail Xing could be a little dodgy but otherwise you just stop, refill then move on... end of story.
A good video.., if only for the countryside!
But, keep these strange ideas coming Brandon, altho a little different than your usual (Suzuki) offerings I kinda like them.
Stay safe, greetings from a Suzi rider in 🇨🇭, Steve.
On a rail crossing I would’ve pushed it out of the way, lol. Good point, though.
The ideal place to run out of gas is at a gas station
Will it be a Scout or a Chief or Springfield?? Still thinkin' on it., and have for months now. But yes I did enjoy your vid because I too was concerned about tank size & actual miles you can achieve out of a 4 gallon tank. So, somewhere between 150 - 225 mpg is a Big Difference. You gave a strong point though as you said... your body needs a brake at about 100-120 miles anyway. Thus I'm thinkin'..... well yes that 4 gallon tank is sufficient, even though I would much prefer a bigger tank. I'm not planning on any long hauls out of Boston NewEngland to So Cal, but more like hitchin a mini mtr.cy.camper to the back & heading for the hills in Maine, N.H., etc. In that case a Scout wouldn't do the job. It won't be a trike, because you loose some of the rush of the twisties. You can tell I'm still shopping. But again keep those vids comin.
Sure thing! Either or will be a good choice and you’ll adapt regardless. 💪🏾
I subscribed two weeks ago. I really love this content. I noticed today that I had been unsubscribed. WTF kind of fishy shit is that UA-cam??
😂😂😂, UA-cam won’t let us be friends and be great
@@BrandonBicasso I got you bro. I'm not gonna let them tear us apart!
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I've never hit bone dry on my tank, but my first trip up through Michigan I was in single digits going over the makinaw bridge. There was gridlock traffic and I had to ride the shoulder with my dad until we got to the toll booth on the far side of the bridge.
What are your leanings between Scout and the Chief after this many miles on the new bike?
Lol, that’s edgy. I’d go Chief. More comfortable on long rides. I like that 116 Stage 2 set up as well.
Lucky thing that wasn't the Bates motel where you ended up 😋
Oh Dear. 🥴
I haven't pushed mine to dead empty but I usually have the ~1 gallon remaining warning on mine after ~120 miles. This Rocket 3 is not forgiving on the guzzle juice.
Lol, yeah it is. You gotta ride Rain Mode on that monster 😂😂😂
I am surprised that the pump didn't burn out.
Would’ve been good to see what not to do. All a part of testing the limit.
Wet a towel with water and let it sit on the windshield for about 10 minutes..bug guts are water soluble. They'll clean right off after a short soak
I need to smoke every hour or so making range irrelevant unless out in the sticks (like where I live). I have never purposely ran ANYTHING out of gas! That is like purposely losing your keys or wallet (never done that either). Nice experiment, though. Your videos are always great! Looking forward to the next one.
The reaction to the GPS taking you down the dirt road was priceless. The first Indian Adventure bike?
Lmao right?
We are from different generations and I ride a 2018 Harley Davidson Heritage. It amazes me how a steel frame, two wheels and a motor can bring different people together. You do a great job, love your videos.
@@jincardona thank you for that. ❤️
Yeah Brandon 150 is enough,, sometimes you want more though...... my old XS1100,, with my 6.3 tank gets me about 200 miles,, "DEPENDING", it's carbureted , it's old, it's a GAS HOG,, and if I'm driving about 80-90 I'll be eating some serious gasoline> 20+ mpg. However in that same old beast if I'm doing nothing over say 65mph I'll get right up to 50 mpg!
Wooo wee. Top end is hungry.
150 is enough if you know what your limit is... my Chieftain gets around 41-43 at 65-70 but if I drop it to 58-64 she will jump to 52.. good to know on the Chief my son is looking at one and we usually stop anywhere from 150 - 180 anyway
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