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+DarkMatter2525 And then Klingons blew God to smithereens shortly after that, making up for them getting thoroughly owned by V'Ger and the Enterprise computer.
+Chee Kay And that is a key distinction to remember. When the conflation of God and the individual believer starts to happen, it needs to be called out and identified. Put that elephant in the middle of the room. When they get heated and emotional about it (religious ego defense), invite God to settle the issue. He is welcome to talk about it aaaaany time. But, as a nonbeliever, when every interaction with God is through human intermediaries, lacking the prophetic miracles or status, only reasonable reaction is "meh".
My son was sent home from a public school for arguing with a teacher about the accuracy of her claims about Jesus. He refuted the birth date of Christmas, explaining it was a Roman gods holiday, and told her that A.D. stood for “ anno domini “, not “ after death “. He then said Christmas was a farce. She got so offended she suspended him- her excuse: “ we were discussing Jesus as an historical figure “- I went in and raised some sand, and the retracted his suspension- regardless.... some folk are just assholes. My son came to me a year later, at age 11, and said: “ I’m an atheist “. I asked him to state his reasons to support his stance- he said “ religion is bullshit “. Ok. Can’t argue with that.
Hopefully kids will get smarter before the conservative christians take over government... wait i think they already have... it’s a constant fight to keep them from passing laws that go against The Constitution and ruin the lives of modern tolerant progressive intelligent people.
This. Otherwise, in the real world, the transformation of water to wine would probably create a very dangerous situation that even magic might not protect from. See above: RyuDarragh (two years before this writing): Jesus said "Here, let me change that water into wine for you!" When they had cleared away the dead bodies of the onlookers who had died of radiation poisoning when Jesus fused Hydrogen into Carbon, they found it was a Chardonnay and entirely unsuited to the Seder feast. Better to have simply pulled a magic trick with smoke and mirrors. √
From what I know In the story jesus was a child and his mother took him to a wedding, the party ran out of wine and his mother asked him to preform a miracle. So more or less he was pressured by his mother to do something impossible. Honestly I wouldn't be too surprised if like you said everyone was drunk and his mother rolled out a new keg.
@@nicholasmcclure2890 Dionysis changed water into wine before Jesus did. There were many mystery faiths at the time christianity arose. Apparently, christianity is exactly what a mystery faith that came out of judaism would look like (Richard Carrier).
I hope my niece breaks away from religion beliefs. My dad brainwashed her into Catholicism she used to have such a wild imagination know she just talks about how great Jesus is. :(
+SciFi Jory How did the late great Christopher Hitchens put it? _Religion poisons everything!_ It's a way to trap the mind in its basic, primitive modes of thinking and not allow it to escape and embrace a more modern, reason-based way of thinking.
abelcainsbrother Because Atheists are real people, Jesus never was one. I just want my niece to find her true self not let my religious zealot father corrupt her without telling her about the other 4,200 religions out there or that she doesn't need to believe in any of at all. His only indoctrinating her in Catholicism without her even having a sightless clue what it even says about people of her gender. And don't tell me how great your god is by only knowing him from a overrated book. Why reject Dr. Frankenstein he can bring you back from the dead you know? PS What do you mean by "Atheist leaders." I have no clue what that even is.
+SciFi Jory I don't know how old your niece is or where her parents are in all of this and I don't want to pry, so all I can suggest is, talk to her. You need to be careful though, because religious people do tend to get annoyed easily. Best wishes.
Jack Sainthill She's twelve and my sister and brother-in-law don't really care, also are not that religious at all. Which why I'm very surprise they are letting my dad walk all over them like. "talk to her. You need to be careful though, because religious people do tend to get annoyed easily." My plain is only if she asks me what do I believe in etc. and tell her why I choice Atheism also teach her about other religions and read the Bible to her and point out the logical errors or maybe show her some AronRa videos LOL. I don't want run up to her and "scream out Atheism you stupid child learn it!" Like that and confuse her that would be very hypocritical of me.
The bible dates to no more than 2800 years with plagiarism going back 12,000. There were no dinosaurs around for a long long time prior to those dates.
That's too bad. She could've read the Bible and explained to you better that it actually does. The book of Job. But you could forgive a poor instance in your childhood and do the studying yourself now.
@@woodysdrums8083 the first five books were written around 1400 bc, which is 3400 plus years ago. So wherever you got your information, or if you just made it up its wrong. And also stating there's plagiarism in the Bible without saying what of leads me to believe you are making that up or regurgitating someone else's made up false statement.
This is a silly comment, thevworld would make more sense with god. not a rational or kind god, not superior anyway, just a thing, messing with us, and getting in the way.
+hhoinfo You weren't watching close enough or long enough. Stare into a TV screen for 6 hours just watching static, at full volume, and tell me you don't see god!
I remember that "wave of relief" wash over me, I was 35. Thanks AronRa for doing what you do, you were there to explain things to me when I really needed you.
Here's what I'm reminded of: When intelligent design or fine-tuning of the universe are mentioned, how things work so perfectly and how the perfection and complexity of the human body implies design, the easiest way to disprove it is by pointing out the flaws in design and fine-tuning. Humans eat, breathe and talk through the same hole, a flaw that causes suffocation on minor accidents, then there's the appendix, wise teeth, goosebumps, the CO2 dependent receptor system, the fact that baby juice comes out of the same pipe that shoots urine, not to mention vestigial organs in animals, or how the fine-tuned universe consists over 99% of things that will kill us, how the majority of our homeworld is covered in undrinkable saltwater or how marine animals like whales, dolphins and sea snakes have to breathe air and how there's carnivores, deserts, natural disasters, sickness, parasites and other atrocities in the first place if the world was designed to be perfect. And what's usually the "rebuttal" of that claim is that the world was created to be perfect, but became corrupt as a result of "The Fall". The first sin, when Eve ate the forbidden fruit, apparently caused all this to happen. One may point out that if the world was so easily corruptible, it couldn't have possibly be perfect to begin with, but what I'd like to know is: HOW? How did all this crap happen because some broad ate a piece of fruit? And if God is somehow responsible for putting it into action, what does that say about his nature? How can he be benevolent when he apparently created all that is evil in the first place and then blamed it on Satan? So, what exact mechanism caused the world to become so full of disease, conflict, death, disease and suffering, how did the anatomy of animals suddenly allow them to become dangerous carnivores, how did deserts and disasters begin to spread, and how did our universe become so dangerously inhospitable just because someone, at one point, ate something she wasn't supposed to?
I always said that if there is a god, he must have created the universe the way we see it. As in, he created the universe through a big bang, and from there on, everything followed the rules of physics. That would be the only interpretation of god i would agree to be possible However, there is a big problem: if god created the universe through a big bang then let everything run its way, then that means that a universe with such a god is indistinguishable from one with no god, where the big bang arose from quantum fluctuations. So it makes no sense to complicate the system by adding a timeless, all powerful, god in the picture. Therefore, while possible, it is very unlikely that such a god exists.
+Cristi Neagu But one would run into the problem of Evolution. Four billion years and a junkyard of failures to come up with messily, inefficient, flawed us? God would have to be one hell of a shitty engineer.
+BlackEpyon Missing his point. The universe wouldn't need a deity to look as it does if it was simply Deistic, so one can posit that it's not necessary for what occurred. Even so, couldn't the possibility of a negligent deity exist? I read a book of apologetics like that before that said "Aren't pandas just so whimsical!? What if the creator is whimsical just like the human spirit and so he creates animals of intrigue?!" WORST BOOK OF MY LIFE. Propaganda called, A Meaningful World. The main thesis of the book is that "Darwinism" is an acid which erases meaning in the world and reduces human beings to creatures of nihilism. My first thought was... Isn't thanks-giving and constant propitiation to a deity ultimately more full of nihilism, since it erases human choice, and living unburdened means we create our own meaning?
Leitilumo Kind of what I was getting at. Either an incompetent theity (if that's even a word) or an AFK deity. Personally, the God hypothesis isn't even a thought for me, so it's water off the duck's back regardless. Science doesn't rule out the God hypothesis (can't even call it a hypothesis if there's nothing to test), but it isn't required for anything. Christopher Hitchens said it best, I think, in referring to the wish for something like the Christian religion to be true, would be the wish for a divine version of North Korea, with the difference being that in NK, you can get out by dying, and in Christianity, death is where the real fun begins.
+Cristi Neagu Good reasoning.. God only makes sense to a human mind that is not grounded in observable reality, as it is this kind of mind (the default, superstitious, primitive mind) that imagines other minds and intents at work in things that are not animate, and imagines itself to be separate from the body and brain that produce it, and with this postulates that other minds might exist without bodies, whether as ghosts, demons, angels, or almighty deities. These things make sense to a mind that did not evolve to be entirely rational and which clings to its primitive irrationality due to one motive or another, such as the fear of death and the desire to overcome it.
+SXeNaz ...this is especially true from a politician's point of view. That's why they allow bad things to happen. It's all about fixing grievances. It is never ever about planning. That could lead to a situation where everything works well and no-one needs them. And it would demand they tell some groups of people. "No you can't. It will only end in tears. Trust me, I'm a wise politician". No-one would believe them anyway.
I have nothing but respect for how you answered that question that your son asked. If I was asked the same question by a child, I would answer the same way.
I have long held the belief that a scientific creationist theory is boarderline impossible because it would require believers to set parameters on God. They would, at the very least, have to come up with an explanation on how exactly he intervened in this world, and then look for evidence of it. Until now, I haven’t heard anyone else bring that up. Thanks, Aron.
I can't believe it. A MAN on UA-cam with knowledge, the ability to talk for minutes without JUMP CUTS or ehrm äm u know its so refreshing. Good to see a man like you to tell the truth.
There's a story, where a guy told a sheikh, that he loves this girl, and he planned to marry her. Then the sheikh just told em to pray- "Pray and the lord shall grant it" Then he pray and pray, but the girl never even look at him let alone to like him. In the end, the girl ended up marrying someone else. Heart broken, he again consult with the sheikh- "I prayed day and night, why hasn't god answer my praying?" and the sheikh replied- "Well, you're not the only one."
4:50 I had very similar experiences as a child. I was very devout (due in large part to abject terror of death and hell, as of around age 7... yeah, not a pleasant childhood) and also very inquisitive. All of my questions were because I was so fascinated by how the world worked, so eager to learn how this all-power, all-wise being put it all together... until I learned the hard way that the most inexcusable act in the Christian faith is daring to ask the obvious questions. So after learning to keep my mouth shut, I spent years improving my reading comprehension, until I sat down with a bible, a dictionary and a desire for answers. And I found the answers. I've been an atheist ever since, discounting a stint as an agnostic as I struggled to shake off years of indoctrination to finally accept reality. There's a reason I am vehemently opposed to the indoctrination of children: I lived through it. It is emotional (and in my experience, physical) abuse and should be viewed as such. Telling a small child, still mentally and emotionally developing, that a supposedly all knowing, all powerful being will torture them for all eternity if they don't repent the "sin" of _being born_ is flat out _abuse._ And that's not even getting into _Leviticus._ Everyone should read the bible, cover to cover. Because then they can know exactly what sort of religion Christianity really is, instead of the watered down, easy-to-shill "love and forgiveness" lie that it claims to be.
at age six my daughter came away with "I can walk out in the road because jesus will protect me" how do I tell my 7 year old that her beloved grandmother's lied to her?
I'm not real. You confront this woman and tell her, straight out, to stop filling your child's head with ridiculous, and totally unfounded bullshit! Then you tell your daughter that her grandmother is delusional, and believes in absurd and impossible nonsense. Do it!
When your grandmother was a little girl, the grownups in her life lied to her too. And she didn't have anyone with the courage to tell her the truth, and so she grew up believing that nonsense.
I can't believe the metal singing skeleton puppet in the picture frame isn't credited in the description. We all want to go see that vid now, tell me I'm wrong.
I love the irony when an anti-science theist says, "Science claims that something came from nothing, and that's not possible." First, there IS NOTHING in any field of science that claims something ever came from nothing; and Second, something coming from nothing is exactly what THEY are claiming!
during religious indoctrination class at school when i was 7, we were told the part about god being all knowing and about how he created the world and about the original sin... and one of the kids asked "if he is all knowing, why didn't he know that they ate the forbidden fruit?"-"because he was testing them" responded the teacher-"but didn't god already know that they would lie? and in the first place didn't he already know that they will eat the fruit even before he created them?". as the teacher was squeezing his brain to come up with something i asked "it says that god cursed the snake to slide on its belly, did it had legs before? and if the snake was the devil in disguise why punish the snakes, they didn't do anything." the teacher gave up on trying to come up with some explanation and just said "who cares, he's god, he can do what he likes"
Well if I was a student in that class I would have asked why the bible says god is not the author of confusion when his bible does nothing but confuses people that try to learn it.
For the Theists out there: If you need to go behind other people's backs to spread your religion are you REALLY doing the moral thing? IF your religion was as good as you like to pretend it is, why do you need to do immoral things to get it spread? Why do you find yourself justifying immoral things as part of "God's Infinitely Good Plan"? If nobody is to judge others but God, why do you find yourself judging others so often? If you view yourself as so tolerant, why can't you leave those of differing faiths, or no faith whatsoever alone? As an addendum to that last question, I understand debates and other situations where the topic comes up. What I'm talking about is when you yourself bring up the topic and will not let it drop. For the non-theists out there: Are you sure you're not acting like the Theists I just called out? Make sure you're being the example you want to see Theists pick up. The best thing anyone, theist or non can be... is a good person. Defend your ideas only until you discover that they are wrong. Be willing to change your mind. If you're going to judge people, do it with as much information as possible and on an individual basis. There's only one real rule to being a good paid up member of society: Don't Be A Douchebag.
'What does it mean to be a _douchebag_?' .. or to be less cryptic: my (previous) comment was an answer to your question: _why would Gammel Prutte post "..and continually telling people lies is 'being a douchebag'."?_
When I went to Bible College back in the '70s, one of my instructors told us that He turned the water in to grape juice. Which made even less sense in the context of the story. But they did not believe in drinking wine. I am Italian and I cannot imagine going to a wedding and being served Welches. It all shows the obsurdity of the whole thing and how far they have to go to try to rationalize a myth.
I had a teacher who told me she only studied half of the assigned material for every given test and that she prayed to God for the half she had covered to be on the test. When I told her how dishonest that was to people like me, who did study the whole thing, she could only stammer and look around awkwardly.
Naturally, god didn't care about the consequences that would have for other people. Everyone else ended up with the same tests, what makes her so special that reality must bend for her? And, when and where exactly did god intervene? Academic tests are decided ahead of time, with very specific content and grading criteria, by people who have to spend a lot of time planning them. If god swapped the papers, the test would be invalid. If god directly manipulated people, he infringes upon free will. If god indirectly manipulated people, he would have had to do so before your teacher could even have asked; can he see the future or can he change the past? Prayers are incongruent with reality, in every single instance imaginable.
@@YEs69th420 Not to mention, why would god bother rearranging questions on a test so that a girl in a 1st world country can get a passing grade while every single hour many, many, many children starve to death? I mean, how is that at all reasonable to think? I think this kind of thinking of "god did X for me" is just plain self-centeredness and an inability of genuinely taking into consideration the amount of suffering in the world. Any god who would meddle with tests for middle schoolers while allowing many humans to starve to death- this without considering the others ways in which humans meet untimely demises- is a lot of things, "all good" is most definitely not one of them. More like petty and random.
"Theirs not to make reply. Theirs not to reason why. Theirs but to do AND die." Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade" (based on an actual battle of the Crimean War) honors the loyalty of fallen soldiers, BUT it also exemplifies the tragic result of blindly following observably incorrect leaders without question, often leading to, "God works in mysterious ways," a phrase believers use...especially in times of tragedy...when their unquestioning faith cannot be reconciled with reality. I love your point about free will. Either we have it, or we don't. The moment God intervenes on behalf of ANYONE, the free will of EVERYONE is nullified.
Ireneus (a second century bishop) explains how to do the water into wine trick: you slip purple dye into the water and make sure nobody drinks it. Its also mentioned in a magical recipe book (probably going back to Anaxilaos' 2nd century BC book, the earliest alchemical text).
There's more evidence to support the hypothesis the universe is a computer simulation than there is for the existence of God™. Yet people will look at you like you're a fool if you suggest the simulation hypothesis, but the believers in an invisible wizard get a pass.
Any chance you could tell me what this evidence of the universe being a computer simulation is? I know it's an old comment, but I'm legitimately curious. Not trying to be sarcastic or anything.
@@jacobjohnston3983 It's the fact that our senses can decieve us, best observed with amputated limbs. Same thing with our memories. We have programmed Computer and we know, once you insert enough Data, it should be possible to atleast replicate or simulate a human brain or human behavior. Since we are on our way to create Artificial Intelligence, we can hypotheis that we've already done that and are already in a Computer simulation
Solid, rational arguments as usual. Throwing in some David Mann art to boot... That’s just icing on the cake! Well done, Aron. Keep the rubber-side down.
Thank you for your hard work. I don't think you'll ever realize the good you've done. I'm still fighting against some of the crap I was raised to believe and your words are encouraging on a crazy amount of levels. We are responsible for we and only we. It's beyond relieving to hear some of the questions I had as a kid were shared by others. I was raised in an adoption situation and was forced to literally believe in the big g or get the f out. There was no rational thinking or question answering. They raised me to believe in a super incredulous magical being but completely deterred any interest I had in magic and certainly anything occult. Seems so silly now that they couldn't even see how absolutely crazy and "magic based" their own beliefs were. Now as an adult I now I definitely don't believe in that biblical blood thirsty tyrant. I more see magick as more of a practical application of our will. Like what change in our reality can we physically affect and how to actually create those changes. Christianity relies way too much on pointing fingers instead of taking ownership of our own doings. "It's all Satan's fault," ummm no Doris, you're just a 🐩. Sorry for the wall of text, just love your content. You've helped me more than words can say. 🙇♂️
+Pasxali K no because he doesn't exist other than in story's. besides if somebody saves a group of people simply pushing a button he's a super hero he save multiple lives in one time by preforming one action pushing a button.
+Pasxali K Superman can do whatever he wants. Kinda like God. Superman is an invention of comic books. A child reading those books believes because; he wants to.. This is a good question Pasxali, it goes to the heart of the God question. How can anything do anything, if there isn't anything to do anything ?
I'm a Biochem major, I can second what Aron said about Atp ase, and, the concept applies to pretty much everything else in the subject Literally no process on the cellular level is perfect, nor is it exceptionally efficient. everything is prone to errors in every concievable way. It is complex and structured, but with a great deal of random chaos and waste. It works, but in the exact way you would expect if processes evolved over a long period of time, when the only purpose is to keep the organism alive for as long as possible.
If gods plan is immutable. Why pray. Seems like a waste of time. Everyone is praying for something different. What if your prayer contradicts the others? It's all pretty ignorant.
Manic Smile. Aw c'mon Manic 'ol mate, you know full well that you're not supposed to think logically and rationally when discussing anything religious, where would religion be today if everyone went around thinking logically and rationally?
I keep finding myself drawn to Aron's videos. Mainly because I like how he thinks and how he reasons, and I keep finding various ways in which his logic applies to my real life. Only he has the courage to say what I can't say... Around 7:50 into this video, Aron mentions the joke about the guy sitting on his roof during a flood; and he refuses the aide of both a boatman and a helicopter because he's waiting for God to save him. And when he doesn't get saved and demands an explanation from God, God claims credit for sending both the boat and the helicopter... The reason I bring it up is because my Grandmother - I'd say a few months ago - mentioned that story to me about how people are expecting God's intervention to be mystical and divine. Her defense was that God worked in more subtle ways... And I wanted SO badly to just tell her, "Then why does God work in a way that is indistinguishable from him not working at all?" Course what I REALLY wanted to say is; "Now DARE God take credit for the Boat and the Helicopter? How dare he take credit for the altruistic deeds by the people who piloted them, whose one and only motive - regardless of God - was to aide their fellow man? Did God purposefully plan the course of their lives and their training to be a boatman or a helicopter pilot for the sole purpose of one day that they would save this man...only to be rejected in their attempts to save him?" It's kind of like the Steve Carell movie - Evan Almighty - where Morgan Freeman plays God and says, "When people ask God for courage; does he give them courage or a chance to be courageous? When they ask for Love; does he give them love or a chance to give their love to someone else?" My perspective is...God is completely irrelevant in this equation because with or without him, you're always going to find opportunities to be courageous, or to be loved, and you're certainly going to find people who are willing to rescue you from your damn rooftop if the town has flooded over. I find it just rather hypocritical that they can give God credit for trying to get that man off the roof, and yet deny with impunity that he isn't also responsible for putting that man on that roof to begin with.
I especially loved as a child when something bad happened to me weeks or even months after I had an argument with my parents on religion, and they'd say something along the lines of: "See! God is punishing you for disrespecting your parents!" Not only was that a vague and obviously cherry-picked thing for them to comment on, it also implies that god only gets involved with humanity to inconvenience a child because some parents felt slighted over them, and god flat out refuses to get involved with those innocent people dying to natural disasters or hunger. Says a lot about their mentality and beliefs if they think that way.
+Ichorslick99 Sorry I saw it ten years ago and I can't even remember the name of the magazine (and oblivously it would be in french) I think I remember something about them saying Magneto "having an electric power generator insisde his chest" to make have his magnetic power
+Redem10 I have often thought of what kind of tech would have to exist to fulfill beliefs of the religious. What if there were a sort of cosmic wifi that uploaded all of our experiences to a central server somewhere? What if we actually COULD view our whole life from beginning to end like many of us were told. What if people can retain their essences after the body dies and what if they can somehow see or communicate with us? I'm a skeptic .. big time, about what exists already .. however .. it seems to me that religion in some ways serves the same prophetic function as science fiction. We are seriously talking about uploading our consciousness to computers etc .. and the possibility of conquering death and living forever. The lame are walking, the blind are seeing, the deaf are hearing. These were the promises that drew humanity towards religion.
Dunno. You run out of explanations pretty fast. Especially when you try to explain why some power couldn't be exploited in some way that is not done. How did they explain teleportation? And regeneration with the implied regeneration of information, like when nerve cell configurations are lost (that does not only happen with brain damage, but also when you loose an arm, for example). Also, it does not explain the unlogical results, like angel wings, which would not work in reality (since you'd need a far bigger wingspan assuming that the person has a regular weight, not featuring things like hollow bones as birds do, and you'd also need far more breast muscles, resulting in a gigantic chest, again like birds do).
"Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die" I never heard that before. But my parents must have had to write 100 times a day on sheets of papyrus when they were kids because boy, did they live by it.
+Geoff Stockton It's a misquote often used as a summary of the poem "the charge of the light brigade" en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alfred,_Lord_Tennyson It's originally used as a critique of the creed of not questioning the higher ups in military organisations leading to carnage.
It is a phrase from a poem "The Charge of the Light Brigade" by Alfred Lord Tennyson. The actual quote is "Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die".
+Anton Lindberg PAGY He's the guy who doesn't exist. There a book about him. What's it called..... Ahh, that's right, it's called the bumbull, or something like that ;) .
+CNCmachiningisfun Actualy I would disagree. The only thing god has done is exist. He exist just like laws, and other fantasy caracters. Superman exist in peoples minds. God exist in peoples minds. But they arent real. :/ "God" is a "thing", one cant get away form that fact. One day humans will forget about god and he will stop existing. >.>
Caim Pact Hmmm, good point. It appears that god exists nowhere but in the heads of delusional people. Over the years, god has been getting steadily smaller - as science has become bigger. In no time, god will shrink to the size of an atom, an imaginary atom, that is :) .
But dont forget about stupidity. The fuel of god. As a fairly smart person once said: 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.' - Albert Einstein - "The diffrence between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits" Well he was wrong on a lot of things. Lets hope he got this wrong too, and that we one day will see stupidity die.
Oh God, talk about emotional abuse. This is the damage that religion does to children, it's forcing impressionable people to follow a big, nonexistent bully. I'm glad that you're exposing these erroneous beliefs!
Some weeks ago my son came back home asking me what was the difference between old imagoinary gods like egyptians and greek (he loves mythology and egyptology) and the modern gods. Then after a slight pause he say to me they are no more real than the others because if one exist then the other must exist too, and i have never see a beetle pushing the sun . I was really proud
freedom from religion is much more moral than freedom of religion, because all religions have no proff that theirs is the right one '',it is much more likely that theyr'e all wrong than the possibility that they are all right.''.
***** You've given a description of the natural laws of the universe. I wouldn't describe what you're saying as God, it wouldn't fit the definition. You might find it worth your while to look into the theory of the multiverse, seems like you would take interest in what it proposes.
+Hiway Yay, another David Mann Fan .... I love his artwork and wish that he was still with us to do more. It expresses so much with so little, that mere words cannot describe it. :) Peace Brother!!
+Victor Richardson Nah, that's just YT. YT doesn't update views as quickly as likes/dislikes. Happens on lot of videos that are being watched by lots of people in a short period of time.
+AronRa - Did I really hear that you were questioning your babysitter about the chemical composition of wine at eight years of age? While not blessed with that type of beautiful mind, I am somewhat cursed with distinct memories of that age myself, despite the fact that in my case over 5 decades have passed. What I remember about being 8 years old is figuring out on the calendar when the next Superman comic book was due to arrive in town. That was the pinnacle of my mental acuity at that age and where I would never presume to be anywhere near as smart as you are........is it possible that you might be doing just a wee bit of revisionism about when you understood those type of things?
+gcmgome I didn't read comic books as a kid. My mother bought me an encylopedia set instead -at eight years old, and I actually did enjoy reading that. My step-son was much better educated by 8 years old than I was, and could accurately explain the changing of the seasons according to the angle of the earth, things I did not understand at that age. But he's an honor student in the gifted classes. I was just a regular kid so far as I know, and that is what happened.
AronRa "I was just a regular kid so far as I know,....." This statement addresses the point of my initial comment. It seems to me to be anything but normal for an eight year old to know and comprehend the chemical composition of wine. It seems more like something to be expected from a child prodigy. That type of knowledge and especially that subject, as a topic of interest for an eight year old? ....... As I mentioned, I remember those years somewhat vividly. Our thoughts outside of school at that age, were dominated by comic books, fishing and little league sports. It was never my intention to be critical of this video and I do appreciate you taking the time to respond but the hint of affectation in possibly suggesting that you were a lot more academically advanced than you actually were at eight, was something that I simply could not let go by.
+gcmgome I don't think that understanding is beyond your average 8 year old - it just comes down to what you are exposed to. What Aron is saying - about missing carbon atoms - isn't terribly complicated. Aron's parents bought him an encyclopedia; mine bought me a bible. I had read it, cover to cover, several times by the time I was 10 (possibly why I am not religious). I appreciate comics as an art form, but I never read them as a kid; my parents didn't buy them for me. They bought me coffee-table books full of gorgeous nature photography and popular science magazines.
Peter Yingling You mean when they faked the moon landing? (Just kidding), I remember vividly where i was on that day as well but was a little older at the time. 8 years of age was the early 60's for me. I remember ordering the "Dancing Sea Nymphs" from the back of a comic book at that age. (A friend ordered the X-ray glasses). That experience made me wary of false or exaggerated advertising.
Peter Yingling I joined the "Junior Sales Club" as well. Had my eye on one of the fabulous prizes which was a pool table, the dimensions of which were given, suspiciously in hindsight, in metric. It did not occur to me at the time why the dimensions were in metric, so my younger brother and I slogged through the snow from door to door selling greeting cards with visions of this fantastic prize in our minds. After selling the 4 cartons (48 individual sets) needed, we claimed our prize. Imagine our disappointment when my father returned from the post office carrying our "pool table" under his arm. It was 31 x 41 centimeters or approximately 12" x 16 ", the balls were marbles, the cues were 15" long.
Great Vid ! Like the music and back ground stuff - keep them coming man you make a difference. Take your criticisms with a grain of salt and keep following your way of communicating your message - it's unique and appreciated
Amazing video 👍😎 Also, Im glad your son is smart enough to ask the intelligent questions and not just blindly believe everything he's ever told. Never apologise for doing the right thing.
Aron, this is one of the most persuasive lectures I seen, you diction is impressive and you do expessive stage voices. We gotta get together for some homebrew. Please run for county office.
Aron, your arguments, and questions are just too well-formed, articulately presented, reasoned, rationalized, and thought out for any God of the Gaps answers. I offer up AronRa as the heir apparent to carry on the great legacy of Christopher Hitchens.
Ohhhhhh. This man is scathing and militant. Fires me up. I love in the south. Biloxi Mississippi actually, Deep South. I am surrounded my christian's everywhere I go (except my house because my girlfriend has a mind) and I hear the constant everyday things that they say. "It was a miracle" "I know god was watching over me" "I'm praying for them". The more militant an atheist the more I love listening to them talk.
This video reminds me of that old Kirk question, "What does God need with a starship?"
+DarkMatter2525 And then Klingons blew God to smithereens shortly after that, making up for them getting thoroughly owned by V'Ger and the Enterprise computer.
+DarkMatter2525 To cruise in style, clearly.
+DarkMatter2525 To get off Kobol obviously... It's a right shithole!
Darkmatter🌝🌝🌝. I think you're the fucking MAN
+DarkMatter2525 You are awesome!
"How dare you question god!"
"I'm not questioning god, I'm questioning you."
+Chee Kay And that is a key distinction to remember. When the conflation of God and the individual believer starts to happen, it needs to be called out and identified. Put that elephant in the middle of the room. When they get heated and emotional about it (religious ego defense), invite God to settle the issue. He is welcome to talk about it aaaaany time. But, as a nonbeliever, when every interaction with God is through human intermediaries, lacking the prophetic miracles or status, only reasonable reaction is "meh".
+Chee Kay I'm so going to use that one, thanks. :)
+Chee Kay
Excellent.
Chee Kay indeed you can't question someone who does not exist. God does not exist.
That's an awesome reply.
My son was sent home from a public school for arguing with a teacher about the accuracy of her claims about Jesus.
He refuted the birth date of Christmas, explaining it was a Roman gods holiday, and told her that A.D. stood for “ anno domini “, not “ after death “.
He then said Christmas was a farce.
She got so offended she suspended him- her excuse: “ we were discussing Jesus as an historical figure “- I went in and raised some sand, and the retracted his suspension- regardless.... some folk are just assholes.
My son came to me a year later, at age 11, and said: “ I’m an atheist “.
I asked him to state his reasons to support his stance- he said “ religion is bullshit “.
Ok. Can’t argue with that.
you have a very bright kid
wish i had open parents like you when i was younger. :)
@@atxbee we all did man
Ha .... Yesssss & Dad & Son Lived Happily After . 😍 💪
Hopefully kids will get smarter before the conservative christians take over government... wait i think they already have... it’s a constant fight to keep them from passing laws that go against The Constitution and ruin the lives of modern tolerant progressive intelligent people.
I say everyone was drunk and Jesus had one of his followers switch a water keg for a wine keg and everyone was amazed.
This.
Otherwise, in the real world, the transformation of water to wine would probably create a very dangerous situation that even magic might not protect from.
See above: RyuDarragh (two years before this writing):
Jesus said "Here, let me change that water into wine for you!" When they had cleared away the dead bodies of the onlookers who had died of radiation poisoning when Jesus fused Hydrogen into Carbon, they found it was a Chardonnay and entirely unsuited to the Seder feast.
Better to have simply pulled a magic trick with smoke and mirrors. √
From what I know In the story jesus was a child and his mother took him to a wedding, the party ran out of wine and his mother asked him to preform a miracle. So more or less he was pressured by his mother to do something impossible. Honestly I wouldn't be too surprised if like you said everyone was drunk and his mother rolled out a new keg.
@@nicholasmcclure2890 Dionysis changed water into wine before Jesus did.
There were many mystery faiths at the time christianity arose. Apparently, christianity is exactly what a mystery faith that came out of judaism would look like (Richard Carrier).
@@kellydalstok8900 ok...
Except no one puts water in kegs!🤣
Futurama said the same thing. "If you do things right, they won't know you've done anything at all."
I hope my niece breaks away from religion beliefs. My dad brainwashed her into Catholicism she used to have such a wild imagination know she just talks about how great Jesus is. :(
+SciFi Jory How did the late great Christopher Hitchens put it? _Religion poisons everything!_ It's a way to trap the mind in its basic, primitive modes of thinking and not allow it to escape and embrace a more modern, reason-based way of thinking.
+abelcainsbrother
You're taking the piss? Right???
abelcainsbrother Because Atheists are real people, Jesus never was one.
I just want my niece to find her true self not let my religious zealot father corrupt her without telling her about the other 4,200 religions out there or that she doesn't need to believe in any of at all.
His only indoctrinating her in Catholicism without her even having a sightless clue what it even says about people of her gender.
And don't tell me how great your god is by only knowing him from a overrated book.
Why reject Dr. Frankenstein he can bring you back from the dead you know?
PS What do you mean by "Atheist leaders." I have no clue what that even is.
+SciFi Jory
I don't know how old your niece is or where her parents are in all of this and I don't want to pry, so all I can suggest is, talk to her. You need to be careful though, because religious people do tend to get annoyed easily.
Best wishes.
Jack Sainthill She's twelve and my sister and brother-in-law don't really care, also are not that religious at all.
Which why I'm very surprise they are letting my dad walk all over them like.
"talk to her. You need to be careful though, because religious people do tend to get annoyed easily."
My plain is only if she asks me what do I believe in etc. and tell her why I choice Atheism also teach her about other religions and read the Bible to her and point out the logical errors or maybe show her some AronRa videos LOL.
I don't want run up to her and "scream out Atheism you stupid child learn it!" Like that and confuse her that would be very hypocritical of me.
In 4th grade Sister Kathleen sent me down to the principal's office for asking why there were no dinosaurs mentioned in the bible.
...for which transgression, the Principal sent me back with a message for the nun to see him after class...
The bible dates to no more than 2800 years with plagiarism going back 12,000. There were no dinosaurs around for a long long time prior to those dates.
@@glutinousmaximus Hahahahahaha
That's too bad. She could've read the Bible and explained to you better that it actually does. The book of Job. But you could forgive a poor instance in your childhood and do the studying yourself now.
@@woodysdrums8083 the first five books were written around 1400 bc, which is 3400 plus years ago. So wherever you got your information, or if you just made it up its wrong. And also stating there's plagiarism in the Bible without saying what of leads me to believe you are making that up or regurgitating someone else's made up false statement.
If I saw this as a Christian and I noticed how much sense he was making it would have scared the shit out of me!!!!
I watch the news everyday for something only a god could do.... Over 60 Years and NOTHING.
+dattebenforcer and god want you to do that 8==== ... >
This is a silly comment, thevworld would make more sense with god.
not a rational or kind god, not superior anyway, just a thing, messing with us, and getting in the way.
+hhoinfo Well ... there was 9/11. That's what only a (believe in) god can do.
+hhoinfo You weren't watching close enough or long enough. Stare into a TV screen for 6 hours just watching static, at full volume, and tell me you don't see god!
+itsatz altered states sensory hallucinations
That skeleton puppet was ridiculously distracting.
I know right? I immediately searched for a video of it and then came back here to watch the rest of this video.
but realy cool iv seen his whole show really cleaver snd fun
I remember that "wave of relief" wash over me, I was 35. Thanks AronRa for doing what you do, you were there to explain things to me when I really needed you.
Here's what I'm reminded of:
When intelligent design or fine-tuning of the universe are mentioned, how things work so perfectly and how the perfection and complexity of the human body implies design, the easiest way to disprove it is by pointing out the flaws in design and fine-tuning. Humans eat, breathe and talk through the same hole, a flaw that causes suffocation on minor accidents, then there's the appendix, wise teeth, goosebumps, the CO2 dependent receptor system, the fact that baby juice comes out of the same pipe that shoots urine, not to mention vestigial organs in animals, or how the fine-tuned universe consists over 99% of things that will kill us, how the majority of our homeworld is covered in undrinkable saltwater or how marine animals like whales, dolphins and sea snakes have to breathe air and how there's carnivores, deserts, natural disasters, sickness, parasites and other atrocities in the first place if the world was designed to be perfect.
And what's usually the "rebuttal" of that claim is that the world was created to be perfect, but became corrupt as a result of "The Fall". The first sin, when Eve ate the forbidden fruit, apparently caused all this to happen.
One may point out that if the world was so easily corruptible, it couldn't have possibly be perfect to begin with, but what I'd like to know is: HOW? How did all this crap happen because some broad ate a piece of fruit? And if God is somehow responsible for putting it into action, what does that say about his nature? How can he be benevolent when he apparently created all that is evil in the first place and then blamed it on Satan? So, what exact mechanism caused the world to become so full of disease, conflict, death, disease and suffering, how did the anatomy of animals suddenly allow them to become dangerous carnivores, how did deserts and disasters begin to spread, and how did our universe become so dangerously inhospitable just because someone, at one point, ate something she wasn't supposed to?
Answer: God was the first politician ever.
The more you read the bible, the less you can disprove that.
God made the world perfect for his purposes.
I always said that if there is a god, he must have created the universe the way we see it. As in, he created the universe through a big bang, and from there on, everything followed the rules of physics. That would be the only interpretation of god i would agree to be possible However, there is a big problem: if god created the universe through a big bang then let everything run its way, then that means that a universe with such a god is indistinguishable from one with no god, where the big bang arose from quantum fluctuations. So it makes no sense to complicate the system by adding a timeless, all powerful, god in the picture. Therefore, while possible, it is very unlikely that such a god exists.
+Cristi Neagu But one would run into the problem of Evolution. Four billion years and a junkyard of failures to come up with messily, inefficient, flawed us? God would have to be one hell of a shitty engineer.
+BlackEpyon Missing his point. The universe wouldn't need a deity to look as it does if it was simply Deistic, so one can posit that it's not necessary for what occurred. Even so, couldn't the possibility of a negligent deity exist? I read a book of apologetics like that before that said "Aren't pandas just so whimsical!? What if the creator is whimsical just like the human spirit and so he creates animals of intrigue?!" WORST BOOK OF MY LIFE. Propaganda called, A Meaningful World. The main thesis of the book is that "Darwinism" is an acid which erases meaning in the world and reduces human beings to creatures of nihilism. My first thought was... Isn't thanks-giving and constant propitiation to a deity ultimately more full of nihilism, since it erases human choice, and living unburdened means we create our own meaning?
Leitilumo
Kind of what I was getting at. Either an incompetent theity (if that's even a word) or an AFK deity. Personally, the God hypothesis isn't even a thought for me, so it's water off the duck's back regardless. Science doesn't rule out the God hypothesis (can't even call it a hypothesis if there's nothing to test), but it isn't required for anything.
Christopher Hitchens said it best, I think, in referring to the wish for something like the Christian religion to be true, would be the wish for a divine version of North Korea, with the difference being that in NK, you can get out by dying, and in Christianity, death is where the real fun begins.
+BlackEpyon
"Four billion years and a junkyard of failures to come up with messily, inefficient, flawed us?"
This is not the way evolution works.
+Cristi Neagu Good reasoning.. God only makes sense to a human mind that is not grounded in observable reality, as it is this kind of mind (the default, superstitious, primitive mind) that imagines other minds and intents at work in things that are not animate, and imagines itself to be separate from the body and brain that produce it, and with this postulates that other minds might exist without bodies, whether as ghosts, demons, angels, or almighty deities. These things make sense to a mind that did not evolve to be entirely rational and which clings to its primitive irrationality due to one motive or another, such as the fear of death and the desire to overcome it.
Great Video! Reminds me of the Futurama episode where god says: "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all".
+SXeNaz Like a network engineer.
+SXeNaz GOD is IT department of the universe :D
+SXeNaz But if God exists, from any skeptic's mind that would be doing things wrong.
+SXeNaz ...this is especially true from a politician's point of view. That's why they allow bad things to happen. It's all about fixing grievances. It is never ever about planning. That could lead to a situation where everything works well and no-one needs them. And it would demand they tell some groups of people. "No you can't. It will only end in tears. Trust me, I'm a wise politician". No-one would believe them anyway.
+SXeNaz The God Nebula in Futurama seemed to have a fair deal of Taoism nailed down.
Now and again I come across a video that is truly inspirational. Quite often those videos are from Aron.
Amen to that!!
I have nothing but respect for how you answered that question that your son asked. If I was asked the same question by a child, I would answer the same way.
I have long held the belief that a scientific creationist theory is boarderline impossible because it would require believers to set parameters on God. They would, at the very least, have to come up with an explanation on how exactly he intervened in this world, and then look for evidence of it. Until now, I haven’t heard anyone else bring that up. Thanks, Aron.
I can't believe it. A MAN on UA-cam with knowledge, the ability to talk for minutes without JUMP CUTS or ehrm äm u know its so refreshing. Good to see a man like you to tell the truth.
This video should be renamed to: how to become an atheist in under 10 minutes
Aronra is one of the few people who can use the word "ain't" and still sound smart as hell.
Oh, you must of not met enough Americans yet. He aint alone
@@whatabouttheearth
You "must have" not "must of." 😶
I love how you explain things. Keep on keeping on my friend.
There's a story, where a guy told a sheikh, that he loves this girl, and he planned to marry her. Then the sheikh just told em to pray-
"Pray and the lord shall grant it"
Then he pray and pray, but the girl never even look at him let alone to like him. In the end, the girl ended up marrying someone else. Heart broken, he again consult with the sheikh-
"I prayed day and night, why hasn't god answer my praying?"
and the sheikh replied-
"Well, you're not the only one."
"You're not a true believer then!/this is what's better for you! /you're full of sin!"
4:50 I had very similar experiences as a child. I was very devout (due in large part to abject terror of death and hell, as of around age 7... yeah, not a pleasant childhood) and also very inquisitive. All of my questions were because I was so fascinated by how the world worked, so eager to learn how this all-power, all-wise being put it all together... until I learned the hard way that the most inexcusable act in the Christian faith is daring to ask the obvious questions.
So after learning to keep my mouth shut, I spent years improving my reading comprehension, until I sat down with a bible, a dictionary and a desire for answers. And I found the answers. I've been an atheist ever since, discounting a stint as an agnostic as I struggled to shake off years of indoctrination to finally accept reality.
There's a reason I am vehemently opposed to the indoctrination of children: I lived through it. It is emotional (and in my experience, physical) abuse and should be viewed as such. Telling a small child, still mentally and emotionally developing, that a supposedly all knowing, all powerful being will torture them for all eternity if they don't repent the "sin" of _being born_ is flat out _abuse._
And that's not even getting into _Leviticus._ Everyone should read the bible, cover to cover. Because then they can know exactly what sort of religion Christianity really is, instead of the watered down, easy-to-shill "love and forgiveness" lie that it claims to be.
at age six my daughter came away with "I can walk out in the road because jesus will protect me"
how do I tell my 7 year old that her beloved grandmother's lied to her?
Yikes.
I'm not real.
You confront this woman and tell her, straight out, to stop filling your child's head with ridiculous, and totally unfounded bullshit! Then you tell your daughter that her grandmother is delusional, and believes in absurd and impossible nonsense. Do it!
"Your grandma lied, god isn't real.... neither is Santa Claus"
When your grandmother was a little girl, the grownups in her life lied to her too. And she didn't have anyone with the courage to tell her the truth, and so she grew up believing that nonsense.
You tell her that her grandmother lied to her, that is exactly what I told my 6 year old. Grandma Lied to you. That is Grandmas fault, not yours.
I can't believe the metal singing skeleton puppet in the picture frame isn't credited in the description. We all want to go see that vid now, tell me I'm wrong.
Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite you’re not wrong
ua-cam.com/video/RFjvmThY4wU/v-deo.html
@@Emiliapocalypse Thank you my hominid sister ✌🏼
I love the irony when an anti-science theist says, "Science claims that something came from nothing, and that's not possible." First, there IS NOTHING in any field of science that claims something ever came from nothing; and Second, something coming from nothing is exactly what THEY are claiming!
Yup. I usually ask them where God came from? Then I watch the cognitive dissonance settle in.
"Thank God that tornado missed our house, all those prayers were answered. Pity about the house next to us"
during religious indoctrination class at school when i was 7, we were told the part about god being all knowing and about how he created the world and about the original sin... and one of the kids asked "if he is all knowing, why didn't he know that they ate the forbidden fruit?"-"because he was testing them" responded the teacher-"but didn't god already know that they would lie? and in the first place didn't he already know that they will eat the fruit even before he created them?". as the teacher was squeezing his brain to come up with something i asked "it says that god cursed the snake to slide on its belly, did it had legs before? and if the snake was the devil in disguise why punish the snakes, they didn't do anything." the teacher gave up on trying to come up with some explanation and just said "who cares, he's god, he can do what he likes"
Well if I was a student in that class I would have asked why the bible says god is not the author of confusion when his bible does nothing but confuses people that try to learn it.
For the Theists out there: If you need to go behind other people's backs to spread your religion are you REALLY doing the moral thing? IF your religion was as good as you like to pretend it is, why do you need to do immoral things to get it spread? Why do you find yourself justifying immoral things as part of "God's Infinitely Good Plan"? If nobody is to judge others but God, why do you find yourself judging others so often? If you view yourself as so tolerant, why can't you leave those of differing faiths, or no faith whatsoever alone? As an addendum to that last question, I understand debates and other situations where the topic comes up. What I'm talking about is when you yourself bring up the topic and will not let it drop.
For the non-theists out there: Are you sure you're not acting like the Theists I just called out? Make sure you're being the example you want to see Theists pick up. The best thing anyone, theist or non can be... is a good person. Defend your ideas only until you discover that they are wrong. Be willing to change your mind. If you're going to judge people, do it with as much information as possible and on an individual basis.
There's only one real rule to being a good paid up member of society: Don't Be A Douchebag.
+Man in the Black Hat
...and continually telling people lies is 'being a douchebag'.
Gammel Prutte
I'm wondering why you posted that.
+Man in the Black Hat Not everyone speaks/reads the same kind of english; clarifying what you mean can be useful.
Apollorion
Appreciated. What would you like clarified?
'What does it mean to be a _douchebag_?'
.. or to be less cryptic: my (previous) comment was an answer to your question: _why would Gammel Prutte post "..and continually telling people lies is 'being a douchebag'."?_
the only way to fit god into the equation is if god is nature itself.
Then that make it another being that survive and is living , it removed the divinity part.And therefore the God word / terms make no sense.
Eternal Cycles So you're basically saying that the only way to fit a god into the equation is to believe in the pantheistic god, right?
God works in mysterious ways. There, satisfied?
Good, neither am I.
Never tired of watching Aron!
When I went to Bible College back in the '70s, one of my instructors told us that He turned the water in to grape juice. Which made even less sense in the context of the story. But they did not believe in drinking wine. I am Italian and I cannot imagine going to a wedding and being served Welches. It all shows the obsurdity of the whole thing and how far they have to go to try to rationalize a myth.
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I had a teacher who told me she only studied half of the assigned material for every given test and that she prayed to God for the half she had covered to be on the test. When I told her how dishonest that was to people like me, who did study the whole thing, she could only stammer and look around awkwardly.
Naturally, god didn't care about the consequences that would have for other people. Everyone else ended up with the same tests, what makes her so special that reality must bend for her? And, when and where exactly did god intervene? Academic tests are decided ahead of time, with very specific content and grading criteria, by people who have to spend a lot of time planning them. If god swapped the papers, the test would be invalid. If god directly manipulated people, he infringes upon free will. If god indirectly manipulated people, he would have had to do so before your teacher could even have asked; can he see the future or can he change the past?
Prayers are incongruent with reality, in every single instance imaginable.
@@YEs69th420 Not to mention, why would god bother rearranging questions on a test so that a girl in a 1st world country can get a passing grade while every single hour many, many, many children starve to death?
I mean, how is that at all reasonable to think?
I think this kind of thinking of "god did X for me" is just plain self-centeredness and an inability of genuinely taking into consideration the amount of suffering in the world.
Any god who would meddle with tests for middle schoolers while allowing many humans to starve to death- this without considering the others ways in which humans meet untimely demises- is a lot of things, "all good" is most definitely not one of them. More like petty and random.
"Theirs not to make reply. Theirs not to reason why. Theirs but to do AND die." Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade" (based on an actual battle of the Crimean War) honors the loyalty of fallen soldiers, BUT it also exemplifies the tragic result of blindly following observably incorrect leaders without question, often leading to, "God works in mysterious ways," a phrase believers use...especially in times of tragedy...when their unquestioning faith cannot be reconciled with reality.
I love your point about free will. Either we have it, or we don't. The moment God intervenes on behalf of ANYONE, the free will of EVERYONE is nullified.
Ireneus (a second century bishop) explains how to do the water into wine trick: you slip purple dye into the water and make sure nobody drinks it. Its also mentioned in a magical recipe book (probably going back to Anaxilaos' 2nd century BC book, the earliest alchemical text).
SUCH a good episode! I'm saving this!
There's more evidence to support the hypothesis the universe is a computer simulation than there is for the existence of God™. Yet people will look at you like you're a fool if you suggest the simulation hypothesis, but the believers in an invisible wizard get a pass.
Any chance you could tell me what this evidence of the universe being a computer simulation is? I know it's an old comment, but I'm legitimately curious. Not trying to be sarcastic or anything.
@@jacobjohnston3983 It's the fact that our senses can decieve us, best observed with amputated limbs. Same thing with our memories. We have programmed Computer and we know, once you insert enough Data, it should be possible to atleast replicate or simulate a human brain or human behavior. Since we are on our way to create Artificial Intelligence, we can hypotheis that we've already done that and are already in a Computer simulation
Solid, rational arguments as usual. Throwing in some David Mann art to boot... That’s just icing on the cake!
Well done, Aron. Keep the rubber-side down.
Very well said AronRa. Thoroughly enjoyed.
I wish the parents had thought like you, my life would have been a lot better. Reality is so much better than bullshit.
Thank you for your hard work. I don't think you'll ever realize the good you've done. I'm still fighting against some of the crap I was raised to believe and your words are encouraging on a crazy amount of levels. We are responsible for we and only we. It's beyond relieving to hear some of the questions I had as a kid were shared by others. I was raised in an adoption situation and was forced to literally believe in the big g or get the f out. There was no rational thinking or question answering. They raised me to believe in a super incredulous magical being but completely deterred any interest I had in magic and certainly anything occult. Seems so silly now that they couldn't even see how absolutely crazy and "magic based" their own beliefs were. Now as an adult I now I definitely don't believe in that biblical blood thirsty tyrant. I more see magick as more of a practical application of our will. Like what change in our reality can we physically affect and how to actually create those changes. Christianity relies way too much on pointing fingers instead of taking ownership of our own doings. "It's all Satan's fault," ummm no Doris, you're just a 🐩. Sorry for the wall of text, just love your content. You've helped me more than words can say. 🙇♂️
Good video, AronRa! I enjoy your personal input. The more I hear the better is my understanding. Thanks!
You are a good man and obviously a great father. Thank you for all your content!
How does Superman do it?
Q: How can Superman fly?
A: Well, he's Superman. Don't you think a Superman could fly?
+Pasxali K no because he doesn't exist other than in story's. besides if somebody saves a group of people simply pushing a button he's a super hero he save multiple lives in one time by preforming one action pushing a button.
+MBoeltje41 Superman would never just press a button. Any simple man could do that...
+Pasxali K I once had Sex with Superman. Then I gave birth to a snail.
+Pasxali K why wouldn't he? if it save's a lot of people what's holding him back the fact that it's to simple?
+Pasxali K Superman can do whatever he wants. Kinda like God. Superman is an invention of comic books. A child reading those books believes because; he wants to.. This is a good question Pasxali, it goes to the heart of the God question. How can anything do anything, if there isn't anything to do anything ?
Dude .. I love you .. so underrated
I'm a Biochem major, I can second what Aron said about Atp ase, and, the concept applies to pretty much everything else in the subject
Literally no process on the cellular level is perfect, nor is it exceptionally efficient. everything is prone to errors in every concievable way. It is complex and structured, but with a great deal of random chaos and waste. It works, but in the exact way you would expect if processes evolved over a long period of time, when the only purpose is to keep the organism alive for as long as possible.
So many good points in this video.. Good job Aron!
Wow, excellent video Aron. Those questions do require answers if they expect us to believe their myths.
If gods plan is immutable. Why pray. Seems like a waste of time. Everyone is praying for something different. What if your prayer contradicts the others? It's all pretty ignorant.
Manic Smile.
Aw c'mon Manic 'ol mate, you know full well that you're not supposed to think logically and rationally when discussing anything religious, where would religion be today if everyone went around thinking logically and rationally?
Fantastic! These are the kind of videos that I love to watch from you, well thought out, edited and entertaining.
David Mann rules! (-:
Thanks Aron... for your interesting, clear, and original thoughts
I keep finding myself drawn to Aron's videos. Mainly because I like how he thinks and how he reasons, and I keep finding various ways in which his logic applies to my real life. Only he has the courage to say what I can't say...
Around 7:50 into this video, Aron mentions the joke about the guy sitting on his roof during a flood; and he refuses the aide of both a boatman and a helicopter because he's waiting for God to save him. And when he doesn't get saved and demands an explanation from God, God claims credit for sending both the boat and the helicopter...
The reason I bring it up is because my Grandmother - I'd say a few months ago - mentioned that story to me about how people are expecting God's intervention to be mystical and divine. Her defense was that God worked in more subtle ways...
And I wanted SO badly to just tell her, "Then why does God work in a way that is indistinguishable from him not working at all?"
Course what I REALLY wanted to say is; "Now DARE God take credit for the Boat and the Helicopter? How dare he take credit for the altruistic deeds by the people who piloted them, whose one and only motive - regardless of God - was to aide their fellow man? Did God purposefully plan the course of their lives and their training to be a boatman or a helicopter pilot for the sole purpose of one day that they would save this man...only to be rejected in their attempts to save him?"
It's kind of like the Steve Carell movie - Evan Almighty - where Morgan Freeman plays God and says, "When people ask God for courage; does he give them courage or a chance to be courageous? When they ask for Love; does he give them love or a chance to give their love to someone else?"
My perspective is...God is completely irrelevant in this equation because with or without him, you're always going to find opportunities to be courageous, or to be loved, and you're certainly going to find people who are willing to rescue you from your damn rooftop if the town has flooded over.
I find it just rather hypocritical that they can give God credit for trying to get that man off the roof, and yet deny with impunity that he isn't also responsible for putting that man on that roof to begin with.
And, of course this nasty god must have created the situation in the first place, or allowed it, but he rarely gets credit for that.
I especially loved as a child when something bad happened to me weeks or even months after I had an argument with my parents on religion, and they'd say something along the lines of: "See! God is punishing you for disrespecting your parents!"
Not only was that a vague and obviously cherry-picked thing for them to comment on, it also implies that god only gets involved with humanity to inconvenience a child because some parents felt slighted over them, and god flat out refuses to get involved with those innocent people dying to natural disasters or hunger. Says a lot about their mentality and beliefs if they think that way.
I just saw this for the first time. I think it is one of your best short videos.
Brilliant as always.
Remind me of a french pop-science magazine that tried to theorize what sort of organs the X-men would need to do what they do
+Redem10 That sounds kinda neat
+Redem10 Do you have a link to that? That sounds fascinating!
+Ichorslick99 Sorry I saw it ten years ago and I can't even remember the name of the magazine (and oblivously it would be in french)
I think I remember something about them saying Magneto "having an electric power generator insisde his chest" to make have his magnetic power
+Redem10 I have often thought of what kind of tech would have to exist to fulfill beliefs of the religious. What if there were a sort of cosmic wifi that uploaded all of our experiences to a central server somewhere? What if we actually COULD view our whole life from beginning to end like many of us were told. What if people can retain their essences after the body dies and what if they can somehow see or communicate with us? I'm a skeptic .. big time, about what exists already .. however .. it seems to me that religion in some ways serves the same prophetic function as science fiction. We are seriously talking about uploading our consciousness to computers etc .. and the possibility of conquering death and living forever. The lame are walking, the blind are seeing, the deaf are hearing. These were the promises that drew humanity towards religion.
Dunno. You run out of explanations pretty fast. Especially when you try to explain why some power couldn't be exploited in some way that is not done. How did they explain teleportation? And regeneration with the implied regeneration of information, like when nerve cell configurations are lost (that does not only happen with brain damage, but also when you loose an arm, for example). Also, it does not explain the unlogical results, like angel wings, which would not work in reality (since you'd need a far bigger wingspan assuming that the person has a regular weight, not featuring things like hollow bones as birds do, and you'd also need far more breast muscles, resulting in a gigantic chest, again like birds do).
"Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die"
I never heard that before. But my parents must have had to write 100 times a day on sheets of papyrus when they were kids because boy, did they live by it.
+Geoff Stockton Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade"
+Geoff Stockton It's a misquote often used as a summary of the poem "the charge of the light brigade" en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alfred,_Lord_Tennyson It's originally used as a critique of the creed of not questioning the higher ups in military organisations leading to carnage.
It is a phrase from a poem "The Charge of the Light Brigade" by Alfred Lord Tennyson. The actual quote is "Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die".
'la la la la la la la, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? that we should all die?'
+Jacob Zondag this guy knows 👍
this is the first of your videos i've seen and i gotta say i really digged it man
Excellent as usual!
AronRa: God doesn't exist and he is not helping science.
Ad on this video: We exist to love God passionately.
There is one thing that god hasn't done yet, and that is EXIST!
+CNCmachiningisfun AMEN BROTHER!
+Anton Lindberg PAGY
He's the guy who doesn't exist.
There a book about him.
What's it called.....
Ahh, that's right, it's called the bumbull, or something like that ;) .
+CNCmachiningisfun Actualy I would disagree. The only thing god has done is exist.
He exist just like laws, and other fantasy caracters. Superman exist in peoples minds. God exist in peoples minds. But they arent real. :/ "God" is a "thing", one cant get away form that fact. One day humans will forget about god and he will stop existing. >.>
Caim Pact
Hmmm, good point.
It appears that god exists nowhere but in the heads of delusional people.
Over the years, god has been getting steadily smaller - as science has become bigger.
In no time, god will shrink to the size of an atom, an imaginary atom, that is :) .
But dont forget about stupidity. The fuel of god.
As a fairly smart person once said: 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.' - Albert Einstein - "The diffrence between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits"
Well he was wrong on a lot of things. Lets hope he got this wrong too, and that we one day will see stupidity die.
really like the news anchor crossed with stand up comedian look you used in this one. I like the format.
I loved the morphing David Mann Images in the background. Oh, and incidentally, your insights were pretty cool, too.
Oh God, talk about emotional abuse. This is the damage that religion does to children, it's forcing impressionable people to follow a big, nonexistent bully. I'm glad that you're exposing these erroneous beliefs!
Alejandra. I wasn't forced to go to church when I was a kid. alot of things have changed since then.
Some weeks ago my son came back home asking me what was the difference between old imagoinary gods like egyptians and greek (he loves mythology and egyptology) and the modern gods. Then after a slight pause he say to me they are no more real than the others because if one exist then the other must exist too, and i have never see a beetle pushing the sun . I was really proud
+AronRa is so articulate it brings tears to my eyes. 😢
Only I can say is brilliant! 2020 Aron for President!
The great lord works his magic through his noodly appendages
Hail FSM
How god did it?
best answer:
*gOd WoRks iN a MySteriOUs wAy*
Very well presented. Everyone should hear this!
Thank goodness for AronRa.
freedom from religion is much more moral than freedom of religion, because all religions have no proff that theirs is the right one '',it is much more likely that theyr'e all wrong than the possibility that they are all right.''.
Pat Brennan. I don't like the word religion. besides I don't have a religion.
Interesting why am I getting some Christian ad before this video plays? It's very weird indeed, UA-cam trolling me I see.
Aron you are absolutely right excellent program thankyou
Mr. Aron Ra is one of the great minds of reasoning. Thank you Mr. Aron Ra and best wishes to you on this life journey.
what I really don't understand is why did God tell me to check out your channel? was he trying to get rid of me?
He didn't :)
Farrow but I honestly saw him in my dream after a 38 hour marathon and a bowl of Brownies.
*****
The universe is being governed?
***** What an interesting claim, could you explain why you think that?
***** You've given a description of the natural laws of the universe. I wouldn't describe what you're saying as God, it wouldn't fit the definition.
You might find it worth your while to look into the theory of the multiverse, seems like you would take interest in what it proposes.
Love the Dave Mann artwork ;)
+Hiway Yay, another David Mann Fan .... I love his artwork and wish that he was still with us to do more. It expresses so much with so little, that mere words cannot describe it. :)
Peace Brother!!
+abelcainsbrother You mean bullshit art right?
abelcainsbrother
Christianart? I thought they made coffee makers and blenders... no?
+abelcainsbrother Yeah, there's some great stuff, it would have been nice if they could have done something useful with their talents instead.
+abelcainsbrother The people who did christian art were not all christians.
Spokes like a true agnostic. I love the way you explain things.
The soundtrack is awesome! And the content, ... even better :D !
Everything DOES happen for a reason.
Random chance and coincidence are, in fact, reasons why some things happen...
Just sayin'
i don't know, and neither do christians.
Inspiring as always
one of my favorite videos
62 views, 175 likes
God done it!
+Victor Richardson Nah, that's just YT. YT doesn't update views as quickly as likes/dislikes. Happens on lot of videos that are being watched by lots of people in a short period of time.
+Victor Richardson Well, thats a better argument then i usually hear supporting god
+Victor Richardson God has much worse like to dislike ratio. In fact it's mostly in the negative across the board.
+Victor Richardson I don't believe it, but that settles it for me! lol
+AronRa - Did I really hear that you were questioning your babysitter about the chemical composition of wine at eight years of age?
While not blessed with that type of beautiful mind, I am somewhat cursed with distinct memories of that age myself, despite the fact that in my case over 5 decades have passed. What I remember about being 8 years old is figuring out on the calendar when the next Superman comic book was due to arrive in town.
That was the pinnacle of my mental acuity at that age and where I would never presume to be anywhere near as smart as you are........is it possible that you might be doing just a wee bit of revisionism about when you understood those type of things?
+gcmgome I didn't read comic books as a kid. My mother bought me an encylopedia set instead -at eight years old, and I actually did enjoy reading that. My step-son was much better educated by 8 years old than I was, and could accurately explain the changing of the seasons according to the angle of the earth, things I did not understand at that age. But he's an honor student in the gifted classes. I was just a regular kid so far as I know, and that is what happened.
AronRa
"I was just a regular kid so far as I know,....." This statement addresses the point of my initial comment. It seems to me to be anything but normal for an eight year old to know and comprehend the chemical composition of wine. It seems more like something to be expected from a child prodigy.
That type of knowledge and especially that subject, as a topic of interest for an eight year old? ....... As I mentioned, I remember those years somewhat vividly. Our thoughts outside of school at that age, were dominated by comic books, fishing and little league sports.
It was never my intention to be critical of this video and I do appreciate you taking the time to respond but the hint of affectation in possibly suggesting that you were a lot more academically advanced than you actually were at eight, was something that I simply could not let go by.
+gcmgome I don't think that understanding is beyond your average 8 year old - it just comes down to what you are exposed to. What Aron is saying - about missing carbon atoms - isn't terribly complicated.
Aron's parents bought him an encyclopedia; mine bought me a bible. I had read it, cover to cover, several times by the time I was 10 (possibly why I am not religious).
I appreciate comics as an art form, but I never read them as a kid; my parents didn't buy them for me. They bought me coffee-table books full of gorgeous nature photography and popular science magazines.
Peter Yingling
You mean when they faked the moon landing? (Just kidding), I remember vividly where i was on that day as well but was a little older at the time. 8 years of age was the early 60's for me.
I remember ordering the "Dancing Sea Nymphs" from the back of a comic book at that age. (A friend ordered the X-ray glasses). That experience made me wary of false or exaggerated advertising.
Peter Yingling
I joined the "Junior Sales Club" as well. Had my eye on one of the fabulous prizes which was a pool table, the dimensions of which were given, suspiciously in hindsight, in metric.
It did not occur to me at the time why the dimensions were in metric, so my younger brother and I slogged through the snow from door to door selling greeting cards with visions of this fantastic prize in our minds.
After selling the 4 cartons (48 individual sets) needed, we claimed our prize. Imagine our disappointment when my father returned from the post office carrying our "pool table" under his arm.
It was 31 x 41 centimeters or approximately 12" x 16 ", the balls were marbles, the cues were 15" long.
Great Vid ! Like the music and back ground stuff - keep them coming man you make a difference. Take your criticisms with a grain of salt and keep following your way of communicating your message - it's unique and appreciated
Amazing video 👍😎
Also, Im glad your son is smart enough to ask the intelligent questions and not just blindly believe everything he's ever told.
Never apologise for doing the right thing.
Aron, this is one of the most persuasive lectures I seen, you diction is impressive and you do expessive stage voices. We gotta get together for some homebrew. Please run for county office.
Great video. I agree with you 100%!
(By the way, great music in the background)
Aron always has the best music in his videos. I'd love to check out his music collection.
AronRa Greatest Dad Ever 😍 💪 👏👏👏👏👏
Aron, your arguments, and questions are just too well-formed, articulately presented, reasoned, rationalized, and thought out for any God of the Gaps answers. I offer up AronRa as the heir apparent to carry on the great legacy of Christopher Hitchens.
Amazing...... 👍...... Superbly explained and reasoned 👍..... Thanks Aron........
This guy is so smart! I just love him!
I love how you used the kreb cycle in your explanation. Great job Aron Ra
*guy disprooves God with metal in the bg* nice
Another great vid
aron ra great vid
Ohhhhhh. This man is scathing and militant. Fires me up. I love in the south. Biloxi Mississippi actually, Deep South. I am surrounded my christian's everywhere I go (except my house because my girlfriend has a mind) and I hear the constant everyday things that they say. "It was a miracle" "I know god was watching over me" "I'm praying for them". The more militant an atheist the more I love listening to them talk.