emanuel e How can a "lack of religion" be a religion? is not smoking a habit? is a "non athlete" a profession? Is a person riding a bicycle called a "non-motorist"? Atheism is the exact opposite of a religion.
emanuel e Wow, i think you are confused. *Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion.* "_Atheism is usually defined incorrectly as a belief system. Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." Some dictionaries even go so far as to define Atheism as "wickedness," "sinfulness," and other derogatory adjectives. Clearly, theistic influence taints dictionaries. People cannot trust these dictionaries to define atheism. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as "there is no God" betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read "there are no gods."_" From Atheists.org From Meriam Webster: a disbelief in the existence of deity From urban Dictionary: 1.) A person who lacks belief in a god or gods. So tell me, how is atheism a religion?
emanuel e No. no. no Theism is the *belief* in a god moron. A-theism, means *NO* belief in a god. I am a fucking atheist, how can you tell me what i believe and what i don't? How about i start telling you what you believe?
emanuel e Just because you believe something does not make you religious. you just told me ""Theism" comes from Greek "theos" meaning "god", so "atheism" is "without god"" So are you a god then? do you consider yourself a god? because that would violate a couple of gods commandments... it's enough to have a set of stupid beliefs like you religion has. So tell me, how can a *LACK OF BELIEFS* be a belief? how is that logically possible dude? Do you see how stupid that sounds? Check this out: IF ATHEISM IS A RELIGION THEN: Not believing in Santa Claus is also a religion. Unemployment is a job. Not collecting stamps is a hobby. Not playing tennis is a sport. Abstinence is a sexual activity. An empty bowl is a meal. Silence is a noise. Remaining silent is a speech. Not fighting is an act of violence. Bald is a hair colour. Not being part of the KKK makes you a racist.
emanuel e You just told me the word _theist_ means god and _atheist_ means without god. So since you are a THEIST you must consider yourself god right? If theist=god? I'm using your definition Unless you would like to change your definition of _theism_ to the proper one: *a belief that a god exists* and then i would be correct about my definition of atheism.
what they believe = what they think is written in a book and that is leading them to vote laws (instead of facts, science, ...) , even if what's written in this book of them contradicts them
+Paul Samartzis Imagine some greasy biker who looks like he could be with Hell's Angels drives up to you on his Harley and begins giving a phylogeny lecture :P
Karl Schuch I've only recently "discovered" him during my usual surfing for Hitchens gems. I hope to meet him the next time... ironically.... he comes to Vegas!
I live in Bulgaria (born and raised), and religion here has no such influence on people's everyday lives - this tradition was canceled during communism. Everyone nowadays has the right to believe in anything, but when it comes to the public sphere, religion is not the basis for the moral behavior of citizens. What you have in USA, is very close to thoecracy (at least, in majority of states). I sympathize with people like AronRa - their struggle is important to all of us. What they try to achieve is common knwoledge here, in Europe. Sad, but true.
@@Metsada007 But it's a fact that we aren't a theocracy. Except for having a little influence on some extreme societal decisions, like abortion or gay marriage (a fight that they lost, by the way), the religious have very little real power anymore. And they lose more ground every year. Atheist/none category is the fastest growing demographic in the US.
Thank you AronRa. Thank you for being actually educated and also being good at getting points across. Thank you for going on Atheist Experience and everything else. I took biology in Canada and am grateful for people like you representing those of us who actually do the work and ask the tough questions and don't rely on faith. Thank you.
While you read and write these comments, babies are dying and suffering from disease and starvation. The religious mind, or a person who believes in "fate" and "everything has a reason", can absolve themselves of the grief that comes with that. It's okay, those babies that died in horror and pain are in heaven. An atheist can only assume the most obvious reality -- these babies died and suffered for no reason, and their death is final. Needless death of the young and innocent is so much more tragic when you don't make baseless assumptions about an "after-life". "After-life"... what a disgusting concept. What a convenient excuse for the most inexcusable things. Atheism allows us to accept and take responsibility for our species. Theism is about "absolution". "Everything works itself out in the end." Theism is simply an irresponsible assumption, with immeasurable and disastrous consequences. Every church-funeral you go to of a tragic death of a young person, people will be telling themselves, "it's okay". It's *not* okay. We can *obviously* do better, but we won't, if people would rather talk about the glory of Jesus, instead of the reality that we *all* live in.
Kurt H your forgetting something far more important then babies dying and suffering from disease and starvation--- what is more important than eternity
I Am That I Am; You conveniently forget that according to the bible, God's the biggest abortionist in the world, let alone infanticidal, so you're in no position to be playing that card buddy.
I do not find love in god I do not find rest in religion I do not find peace in belief I find contentment in atheism I find comfort in the absence of a higher power I find happiness in knowledge A whole world of possibilities open up When you take off the blindfold
Ok . . . there will still be religious nuts who believe in fairy tales 100 years from now who think that the Old Testament laws such as how to sell your children into sexual slavery and killing infants and girls who aren't virgins on their wedding night! There! Already got more then the Bible right there.
Where did you learn that from? Did you read the bible? Or got that off the internet or is that the only thing you can come up with. What you stated was "Even I could write a Holy book and get more prophecies correct than the Bible!" I asked you to do it. You obviously can't but you sure know how to repeat something someone else has taught you. There will still be religious nuts who believe in fairy tales that happened 100 million years ago, such as DNA magically appeared out of nothing milions and millions of years ago. Then it "evolved" into what exists now. C'mon. That's not scientific. That's just an excuse. You should read the bible and come up with a better excuse to reject it.
Prophecies? The fact that the book of Daniel predicted the precise rise and fall of the most powerful kingdoms to exist in the ancient world. (Babylon, then Medo-Persia, then Greece, then Rome) Read Daniel 2 and 7 if you consider yourself a free thinker. The king of babylon had a dream and Daniel was able to interpret it. History shows how accurate the interpretation of the dream. The vision that Daniel has later verifies and interprets the dream he had. It verified Medo-Persia was run by 2 kings:one less and one greater. Then in the book of Daniel it was predicted that Greece was going to take Jerusalem by one king (Alexander the Great) and then the kingdom would split in four, signified by Alexander dying and having the kingdom given to 4 generals. Then he predicted and saw in the dream that Rome would take over Jerusalem by Greece. If you actually look into the history of Israel/Palestine as well as the history of Jerusalem you would know it is verified the prophecies in the book of Daniel are accurate and factual. Read a book. Let's look at more things the prove the bible and it's prophecies to be true
AronRa is not my mentor , he is however a great educator of biology and evolution ,also he actually cares that his country is going down the ranks in world education because a superstitious mumbo-jumbo. We , and other freethinkers do not have `faith` , we only have confidence in what we know to be true. If something has not been established by facts , then it can not be asserted as true. `Faith` is the exact opposite , it is a strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof. ALL religion have only faith. The difference between you and me is , I will follow where the evidence leads me to and because science takes no sides , I only follow the science and the facts that back up and will amend every time new discoveries are made. You have a fixed belief that dates backs some 2,000 years. Stories written by shepherds and goat herders of how the cosmos is.... I`m sorry but the world should move on and it`s time that we let go of this childish poison.
_is however a great educator of biology and evolution_ For some people it might be great to be an educator of something that never existed aka evolution
My friend , it is obvious that you have no idea what evolution is, and it would be far too long to try and explain it to you on a youtube comment section. Look you`ve come to an AronRa video , so why don`t you spend just 20 minutes on one of his video`s on the subject. If you listen to the facts on what we already know you might understand more. You may have fixed beliefs that are disproved , but just remember , Science takes sides with nobody, Science is only science when science can prove it with facts and evidence. Science does not know how to lie and when it does it is very quickly dismissed as being science in the first place. Science works and you are witnessing it right now by reading this comment which was delivered to you at the speed of light. Now isn`t that fact far more awe-inspiring than any myth about talking snakes and burning bushes.
_ it is obvious that you have no idea what evolution is, and it would be far too long to try and explain it_ It would be indeed difficult, sweetie, considering that currently there are tens of versions for your evolution myth.
Whether they had this information or not didn't keep them from reproducing very successfully I might add. So how did not knowing about conception really hurt them? Moreover both you and AronRa could be descendants of The Bronze Age goat herders. Remember people don't have the ability to choose your lineage. That is a fact that even science cannot contest. Peace!
Lea Leandre I'm not putting the Bronze Age goat herders down for their lack of knowledge at all. But both AronRa and I are wondering why people today believe the Buy-bull despite the knowledge we have now.
lautz73 you mean sitting in heaven either with your mind changed to where’s everyone is like a robot with only good thoughts and nothing bad happens or you retain your own personality but know people you loved are in hell being tortured forever and you exist in heaven with that knowledge forever Either way it’s nothing a normal decent human being would wanna be part of
I have no belief at all in any religion,as worthless as yesterday's news paper..still the world's number one killer,and still pure fiction..there are no talking snakes
I hate to break it to you but statistics show that progressive science has killed more people then all religion combined. Ww2 ring a bell? Though the war wasn't religious in nature it sure did attack some points of it eh? Guns a bombs dude I can go on forever
Satan isnt as much the good guy as he is the Liberating and overly hyperactive annoying little shit - side character. Satan was made with the intention to be horrible so there really isnt any way for me to interpret it other than annoying or evil as an athiest still.
In my case, the answer was "Because people I trusted told me to and I was too young to know any better." The moment I actually started actually thinking about this stuff is the moment the first cracks in my faith started to appear.
AronRa Atheist, skeptic, scholar, biker. Proving stereotypes and fallacious, magical arguments, wrong. One massive, big-booted, ass-kicking step at a time.
Thank you for enlightening me and helping me understand the bible for what it is. I was born in an Anglican household and went to church on Sunday. I have read the bible but I did not understand what I was reading. It was not until I began listening to open minded persons as yourself that I went back to the bible and realized I was confused and getting frustrated and angry from the words in it. I have a new world opening to me now that I should ask questions and research to get the facts. Thank you again.
@@yosh3058 says: *I'm in the same boat. The more I studied the Bible, the further I went from God. There are just too many issues to accept it as fact.* There are no issues preventing anyone from accepting the bible as fact with the exception of their wrong perspective of the evidence. If you have the correct and proper perspective of the evidence then it proves the bible to be true.
To those who say that Christians doesn't have to follow the Old Testament, please explain this: "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"
bam bam bigelow Funny that Jesus said nothing of the sort. Funny also how the world has gone on for a couple of thousand years after "everything" was accomplished.
+Michael Sommers are you actually being serious? This isn't my opinion or feelings, it is a week known fact in Christian theology. That's an extremely elementary argument, you may as well have brought up dinosaurs lol
@@Golems_wrath I'm pretty much what you'd call an Idontcarian...so I don't care that you're an atheist. That is to say, I would probably like you regardless of your religion. Too often, these forums bring out a contentious side of me...so I'm usually glad of the opportunity for a little levity.
I was just thinking how painful it must be for theists to be listening to reason and logic, and not being able to counter it with anything other than "my faith."
@@spider-man9118Have you ever asked yourself what other things in all of your life, you had to "Prove" to someone ? "Science" is where a bunch of different people all come to the same conclusion about something you can test and retest. Why a religious person would want to bring "Science" into a book that clearly had no understanding of it, I don't know?
@@spider-man9118 Science and religion draw on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations are based on evidence drawn from observing the natural world and conducting experiments. Because these explanations are based on evidence, they can be checked independently by others. Scientific questions (aka hypotheses) are framed in ways so that they can be confirmed or disproved by evidence. If the evidence shows that the hypothesis is wrong, the hypothesis must be reframed and tested again or rejected. Religious beliefs don’t depend only on empirical evidence. They can also be based on faith and typically involve supernatural forces or entities.
@@spider-man9118 Theologians and other people of faith have a variety of perspectives on science. Some theologians have proposed critically important scientific ideas and undertaken scientific exploration. For example, Georges Lemaître, a Belgian Catholic priest, was one of the first people to propose almost 100 years ago that the universe first began when extremely condensed matter rapidly expanded (now called the “Big Bang theory”). And for centuries the Vatican has maintained an astronomical observatory and has appointed a scientifically trained chief astronomer
"Why do people believe the Bible?" Because it tells them exactly what they want to hear. If it said "Get rid of all slavery; don't pay your taxes", it would have been allowed to spread?
Christians did get rid of slavery. It was the Christian abolitionist movement. Try researching your topic before saying nonsense. Yeah, tells people what they want to hear? Like to fight their sinful nature and obey God? That’s much more difficult than doing whatever you want.
@@juke1225Christians didn't get rid of slavery, they just went from chattel to serfdom. Serfdom was basically slavery, you just couldn't sell your serfs but you could sell the land they lived on.
@@juke1225 the abolition of slavery was a secular movement lead by christians but strongly opposed by devout christians. everyone in the west was christian back then.
I'm Pagan myself. For me it's a personal thing--and not something i push on others. I've come under fire for it several times, but it's part of me. However, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents here. Aaron--WOW!! I wish you could have continued this. It's too bad they had to cut you short. This was wonderful.
Religion makes no progress toward a concensus understanding of God's will, God's words, or God's nature, or the nature of the real world in over 6000 years of recorded religious thought. Science continually comes to more and more detailed consensus understandings of the real world, of morality, of life, the Universe, and Everything. Religion everywhere and always opposes human progress in every sphere of endeavour. Science gives us continual progress in all areas of human endeavour.
science... Look science is a great branch of knowledge but please.. Science does not answer everything, science does not answer the deeper meaning of morality. Nazi germany was the most scientifically advanced nation, look at what they did with their morality. Science is not the only way to truth, its a great branch of knowledge but it is not the only way to truth.
Murri16 Science is: A systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe. In an older and closely related meaning, "science" also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied. Source Wikipedia. If you are not going to use science, do intend to just make it up? Look up the Scientific Method here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method Have a good read and come back and explain how you are going to explore Morality otherwise.
Murri16 Of course not, personal experience being the obvious example. It is not transferable or of any value to any other person outside of shared personal experience. Unless you are starting up a new religion, and you are the next messiah. In that case good luck, there are many who will just believe anything they are told if they like it.
Powerful logic and reasoning. Loved it !!! ....I joined AA over 2 years ago to learn how to stay sober and enjoy living sober. It is said in AA that honesty with yourself is the cornerstone to success in the program. I became honest about not believing in the higher power they were all talking about. I still go to meetings to show other members that a non-theist can stay sober and there are many other reasons I like about going to meetings.
Good for you, Joseph! I wish you all good things. :) I agree, self-honesty is indeed uppermost in maintaining sobriety, but in my experience, self-knowledge is up there too. However, one must always come before the other and sometimes is a long time coming. I hope more people like you speak up and continue to engage in recovery programs without giving all the credit for such a difficult undertaking to a "power greater than" themselves. It's all down to the individual, they did it and are doing it! Hopefully more people will see that and feel empowered by that, as they rightly should. AA may be slow to alter, but the more attendees designating their "higher power" as theirself, or their "higher self" might help it along. Lots of small rebellions eventually cause change.
If it works for you, great but I think you don't need to keep a record of how many days sober you've been. Also, if you can learn to work through whatever issues led you to drink, you will find no special power in alcohol over you. Drink responsibly and infrequently. Learn that a single beer doesn't need to led you into a bender, and don't destroy your confidence and pride (feeling oh I have to start all over again) if one day you stumble. AA is not the only way, and you are the one that has the power to say "no" to alcohol, or the power to limit it to a single drink without going overboard. A child has the mindset of "all or nothing"; learning how to be an adult is the only way to move forward. The "I am an alcoholic" shaming beat down of your self-confidence, and then to state that all the effort you made is due to god is truly disgusting. We don't need the shaming labels. You are not an alcoholic, or a druggie or whatever, you are a person who felt a chemical or psychological dependency on something. Think I am wrong? Well for some people, their drug of choice is food. They are just as psychologically and chemical dependent on overeating as you were with alcohol - do we tell them to stop eating altogether and count the days since their last meal? No, of course not. If they can learn self-control, so can you. Words to think about.
tomatodamashi You seem to assume you've got the whole of all humane nature for all ages of every person walking this planet wrapped up neatly in a Fox News one size fits all package. It's a good bet you've never once sat in on an open forum AA meeting and you have no idea the feeling of actually being so physically hooked on any type of booze for years. You are wrong for sure about who I am and I consider you to be a common fool with confidence.
***** I didn't lie about my excessive drinking and the only requirement to join is a desire to stay sober. I needed sober people to help me live sober because I failed on my own to even slow down my drinking. I didn't need to be superstitious to join AA and it's worth it to me to tolerate all the "higher power" god smack to discuss sober living with sober people. All the "praise Jesus" is just white noise to me and I don't make any negative comments about it.
Jason Leonard If I lived near Chicago I would like to try Quad A... Meanwhile I think it's good to make my three AA groups a little more diverse with a different personality such as myself so the newcomers can hear my story along with all the other members.
"If it doesn't matter what the facts are, then it doesn't matter what the truth is." -- AronRa If the above isn't among the most important points Aron has ever brought to a talk or discussion or debate, I don't know what is. Thank you, Aron.
This is the best speech I have ever heard from someone on our side. The most fact filled, informative, logical,rational 20 minutes I have ever been witness to. I have had debates with theists for hours and never even come close to this sort of "check mate" I cannot understand how theists can continue on with their blinders on after listening to these indefensible facts. Thanks Aron.
About liars, he's sure right, my mother lied from the moment she woke up to the moment she went to sleep. About the MOST ridiculous stuff. It was embarrassing. She couldn't even keep her stories straight. And everything was my fault. If I scraped my knee, she would be "We have to go to the doctor, this is all your fault." I was 6, And would say, "I just need to clean it off." So I would. Meanwhile, she would take a bath, put on fancy clothes, spend 2 hours putting on make up. All the while chastising me for making her do all this work. By then, the wound had dried up and I covered it with a BAND AID. I heal very fast. Fortunately. If I didn't I would have bled to death with her 3 hour ritual. Unbelievable.
It's so cool to see how Aron's public speaking skills have improved over time. In this one, he stumbles over names and other details, he overestimates how much time he has... It's night and day when compared with some of his later lectures.
You know, as a recovering Christian I am constantly shocked at some of the things Aron claims the bible and particularly christians do and say. I think to myself, "no, surely not the 'loving' group of people I used to associate myself with and identify as" so I do what any right-minded skeptic would do, I google it 😂 only to find that he is in fact correct. As a christian though, of course, I never would have known of such things, but fortunately now, as an Atheist, I am not limited to strictly Christian and Conservative news outlets, lol.
@@Tessinentdecken some would say. Officially, I guess you could say, JHWH (the English transliteration of the Hebrew term used in the Old Testament) was/is the God of the Jews in most of the old testament. Not every Christian believes in the trinity but those who do would say that it follows that Jesus and JHWH are one in the same.
@@ARMYStrongHOOAH17 thx for your view on this matter. I believe that the historical Jesus of Nazareth was human and that history made him a God He was crucified but not for the sins of mankind.
While you gave evidence that belief in the Bible is unwarranted, and that those who claim to believe in the Bible are confused on many points, and willfully ignorant about important scientific findings, you failed to fulfill the promise of your thesis, and develop a theory of "Why does anyone believe the Bible?". But, no matter: it's because they are programmed to do so through trust in their loved ones, typically as children, trusting parents, who tell them that the Bible is True. Thus, belief in the Bible doesn't come about by reading the Bible. People who believe the Bible do so *before* they read it. And that belief is maintained through deceptions about the contradictions, failed prophecies, forgeries, fables, and false observations of the natural world contained therein. Update: I realized later that instead of interpreting the title as the direct question "*why* does anyone believe the Bible?", an alternate understanding is as a rhetorical question "why does *anyone* believe the Bible?", implying that the Bible is not worth believing. In this latter view, you *did* indeed fulfill the thesis of the title of this video. I apologize if I have accused you wrongly. ;)
spongefreddie Your first post did not draw a logical link between "I had to ask ..." and "... there was no instruction...", and I wanted to avoid assuming such a link. It might be that the answer to my question could be inferred from your post, but I wished to get more details, more explicit cause from you. So, I understand from your post and your reply that you asked for the Bible because you wanted some information about "God". From this, I can infer that you had an a priori assumption that the Bible is a reliable source of information about that figure. Therefore, you fit my model in that you *believed* the Bible *before* you read it. Furthermore, you wouldn't have had this belief unless you adopted it from *something* that *someone* you trusted had said to you. I expect that this trusted person was a family member or friend, though perhaps some otherwise-loved authority figure, like a teacher. Moreover, you had some faith that this "God" figure was a character *worth* seeking. Again, you must have already been programmed with this evaluation *before* you read the Bible, as you *at last* have admitted, "... I already believed ...". Come on!? Do you expect us to belief that you adopted faith in "God" *ex nihilo* without any influence from family or friends? And you accuse *me* of folly? DocZom You're right: my hypothesis *is* overstated, in that I present it as an absolute generalization, without any equivocation of "mostly", "almost all", etc. OTH, I haven't yet come across a falsification, SpongeFreddie notwithstanding, so I don't really feel the need to equivocate at all. nb: SpongeFreddie, you don't have to reply to your own post to correct or update: you can now *edit*.
spongefreddie What you're suggesting is that you chose to investigate christian belief, but never once in your entire life, encountered the word god, never met anyone who believed in christianity, never heard anything about jesus or god in school, in books, on the tv or anywhere else. You don't think that might be hard to believe? I'd say unless you were locked in a room without windows, in solitary confinement with no access to any information from the outside world at all, you're not being honest. Can you honestly say that was the case? you yourself admitted that you chose the bible because you grew up in a Christian area, which means that you had christian influence, direct or not. If you were in as secular a world, as you imply per your claim, then you should have had equal access to books on multiple gods. Furthermore, yes, everyone wants to know where they came from, but without ever hearing about the bible from anyone else ever, and intuitively understanding what it contained? There's no reason to believe that at all. How could we? It goes against our understanding of learning and we can't test the claim to verify it. What we can demosntrate though, supported by evidence, is that around 50% of children have imaginary friends and that the activites in the brain, that cause and allow this phemomena are 100% natural in origin. They are also the same systems that allow people to believe in gods, ghosts, fairies and boogey-men. Empathy, the behavior of learning from and believing authority figures (which speeds our growth of knowledge allowing us to learn faster and survive better) and Alien Agency which allows us to ideintify other being, attribute them as having their own minds and will, enabling us to understand that sounds in the dark may be dangers (look at how many people are scared of the dark, especially children) and also allows us to sympthise/empathis with others. I put it to you that, living in what you admit was a christian society, upon asking what a bible is, you would have been told about what it contains, after which these processes went to work. Beyond that, your continued belief is a matter of choice and circumstance of your own creating. you convinced yourself, and allow others and yourself to add to that belief, avoiding information which is contrary, whether you know you're doing that or not.
spongefreddie after your reasons for searching for a bible, i can only think of how different your life and ideas would have formulated had you sought knowledge in a book more like the dhammapada or other ancient sutras of the buddhist pali canon. there is more than one way to seek meaning in the universe, understanding of what reality is. the christian religion is not self evident in our reality, only in the minds of human beings. the bible teaches you that you will go on after you live, you have a soul and spirit, your body is not just one thing.... you believe all that? it teaches you that youre seperate from other things, but in reality, all life in the universe is part of one giant cosmic event with many occurences that allow life to take place. you dont have to exist. no one ever asked to be born. we all need to take a step back and evaluate what life is. i mean, come on, christianity just logically disprovable as a concept and moral system and philosophy. i know your comment is old but i just wanted to say that youre looking from the wrong angle. the idea of a anthropomorphic creator god is not a good assumption about the universe. the idea of a personal god in general isnt a great assumption. you said youre worried about your backyard and not others, this would be a very buddhist concept... the entire religion is based on the idea of the self in relation to the external self/outside physical world. the organism is a part of the universe and its part of us, the outside world around you is a part of your organism because it determined every single thing your body would develop into. its inseparable from you. the bible does not evaluate reality at all, it just tells you to obey and illustrates why you shouldnt fuck with god basically, and then how god has to kill his own son to save you from his own wrath through his grace, while remaining omnipotent, even though he couldnt just forgive us and avoid that instead of creating a loophole against himself. so much for omnipotence. and also, he creates people into eternal damnation. not cool
Given how God acts toward his creations throughout the Bible, I'd say he's a complete monster. He may say he "loves" his creations but his actions say otherwise.
Thank you so much…. I see more christians taking their minds back because of your courage…. It's a slow process… This cult has been at it for a long long time, but it is happening…. So thank you from the bottom of my heart…..
I think the answer is that actually, a lot of religious people don't really care about it enough to either believe or disbelieve. I went to a Catholic primary school, and we would sometimes have tests about bible knowledge, and I remember distinctly that most of the other kids barely managed to get a passing grade in most of those tests. As you demonstrate here, most religious people don't know much about the bible and in fact they often believe a bunch of stuff that isn't in the bible or which the bible directly contradicts. I think that the most important part of religion to religious people is the sense of community, and as long as being religious doesn't prevent them from getting on with their life, they don't care enough to make any active choices about it. It's not about the question of whether or not something is true, but the question of whether or not a belief will cause turbulence in their life.
Because of childhood indoctrination. Or in some cases indoctrination during a vulnerable time later in life. And then people connect meditative experiences to the indoctrinated mythology.
Aaron Ra I'm newly subscribed to your Channel. then I must say you are brilliant. I wish more people had your common sense and your ability to question what we've all been taken for granted since we've been brainwashed since birth to believe in nonsense keep up the good work keep spreading the truth. I've seen very few people with the uncanny ability to dissect the Bible the way you do. the sad aspect of what you're teaching is, most religious people will never accept it. it's too late for them maybe you can enlighten the next generation and they will benefit from everything that you're saying. man will not grow as long as religion is in charge. again keep up the good work
The part at the end resonated very much with me, I detest liars and lying is, perhaps outside of physical violence, the worst thing you can do to a person.
I love the way Aron brings in the episode of Twilight Zone ( It's A Good Life ) where the character, Anthony Freemont says " Only think good thoughts,or else " The character also points his finger at a man saying: " You're a bad man. You've a very bad man " and subsequently turns him into a Jack in the Box
you have the right to believe something that is wrong as long as you dont try to impose that on other people or use that belief to impact other peoples lives.
It is so true that dishonorable people will commit an act of malice, point to how wrong you are for getting upset, then say this is what they can't stand about you. Hell should be real for them.
Incorrect, I study both sides and the more I study the more the creation argument dominates. Evolution is also a religion and requires just as much faith to believe in ( actually more) as creation.
@@marshalllaw4116 Peppered moths. They used to be white with some black spots but now they're entirely black with almost no examples of the former still existing, but that wasn't even my point. You attempted and failed to present yourself from an unbiased centrist position but in reality, you're a creationist with no integrity which is made evident by your parroting of creationist talking points. I highly doubt you "examined" both sides but rather started from a position and worked (if at all) to find any evidence that supported what you already believed. Evolution also isn't a religion since religion requires either a supernatural aspect such as a god, or a more colloquial aspect such as ascribing great importance. The only way the belief in evolution is a religion is if some geek gets super excited about it, and by that same logic (and dictionary definition) evolution is a religion in the same way football is, but not in the same way Judaism, Christianity, or Islam is. Attempting to present it the same way one would any of the Abrahamic faiths is incredibly dishonest. And a last point, Evolution does not require faith. You do realize that even if humans didn't evolve from our scientifically established ancestor species, evolution would still be a thing even if only in a smaller way. All evolution means is change over time, and species change all the time. For example, humans are on average 4 inches taller than we were 300 years ago. That is a change observed across our species. We were collectively all once shorter, and now we're not. A change occurred in our species, which is literally what evolution is.
truepeace3. Beyond being a figure of speech, I think from an atheist it's a bit more profane. And more than saying "by Jove" with no belief in Jupiter.
Ahh! The audio is 180 degrees out of phase between the speakers! So it can either sound all wispy and non directional, or if you put it in mono it's almost silent. Looks like I'll be listening to this with the balance knob all the way to one side.
Edward Overkleeft I agree among atheists Sam Harris is head and Shoulders above Aron ra. At least Sam Harris is civil to Christians despite sharp disagreements.
emanuel e Not really. I've only just started reading the Koran but so far, it seem just as bad as the Bible. One thing is painfully clear, Allah and Yahweh are indeed one and the same. I'd recognize that scumbag, psychopath anywhere.
emanuel e So, I should rely on a silly old book written by warmongering, lecherous, goat herders thousands of years ago? Uhh, no. Christianity and Islam both were spread by the sword. The bible cannot stand on it's own merits. If it could, Christians wouldn't need to threaten us with hell or bribe us with heaven. It the bible were true, it would invite scrutiny and criticism. Christians take offense when we question the bible. I wonder why... 😏
emanuel e Talking snake, parting seas, virgin birth, walking on water, turning water into wine, the sun staying still in the sky (geocentric universe), man from dust, woman from a rib. Harry Potter isn't this outlandish.
emanuel e I know the earth orbits the sun, which is more than Joshua could say. 😸 I was raised a Baptist and if I didn't think for myself, I would be one, still. Never again shall I be enslaved to superstition.
I sympathize with the plight of the deaf. I think a more appropriate course of action would be for you to request captioning on all You Tube videos. I can certainly see why that would be helpful for our deaf cohorts.
Because we don't do what you are willingly doing. Supressing the truth in unrighteousness. Instead of giving glory to God you make yourself a God. May God give you the gift of repentance. And anyone else who suppress the truth.
Christians don't listen to anyone. Their religion tells them to fear anyone who pokes holes in their myth, because the only way that they can go on believing is to close their eyes to logic and reason - and to facts.
There is no devil. There are no wizards. There is no biblical truth. If a person doesn't want to hear reason and knowledge, there will be nothing one can do to make them hear it. Poor Aron, he's not talking to christianists. Oh wait, rational people don't talk to religious fundamentalists if they can help it.
Don't you just love how religious people think there above it all. Anyone who does not follow is looked down on like we are missing something. Every religious person I have ever met turned out to be a utter fool. They just don't like to admit they might be wrong on there beliefs. Atheists are on the rise because more people are seeing religion for what it is. A big lie!
Fools say to themselves, "There is no God." They are corrupt and commit evil deeds; not one of them practices what is good Psalm 14:1. Satan has deceived many into believing that there is no God, and it is simply because he wants us to have the same fate as him (eternal death). Jesus made it possible for all humanity to saved by dying for our sins because he loves us so much. Who else is capable is creating the sun, moon, stars, oxygen and the list goes on and on....Invite Him into your hearts today for He loves and cares for you!!
The Bible says that no atheist does good things, just one more thing the Bible got wrong. Regardless what the Bible says, a fool is one who is fooled, by too readily believing impossible claims by credulous people on insufficient evidence.
AronRa That is where you are wrong. There is evidence that the bible is the inspired book of God. If you read the vision/dream that the king Nebuchadnezzar had in the book of Daniel you WILL be fully convinced. Read the book of Daniel and study it along with historical facts. Mind blowing! The bible encourages people to love their enemies, do not render evil for evil, do not lie or steal, or murder. Why would to you would to dissuade persons from believing in someone who encourages them to be decent people in society.
as8494 A vision/dream as recorded from a third party is not evidence, it is not mind blowing (unless you have a small mind to blow) when you read these stories there is no way to prove Daniel knew what his dream was before he told anyone, that's a tool any storyteller can use, they write passages with the end already thought up. As for the bad things people do, the old testament [1/2 the bible] says to do horrible things. The new testament has been used by evil people to do evil things, it says slaves obey your masters, it says women do not speak up in church and be submissive to their husbands(no mention of his character), it says homosexuality is a sin(Epistle quotes) which is taken and run with by right wing Christians, who ignore the fact that divorce is just as much a sin and none will rally against that. What I'm trying to convey is no matter how disillusioned you are and potentially good hearted you are, there are others doing horrible things in the name of the same god, simply watch kidnapped for Christ if you want one of many examples of how even Christianity given total control can turn into a hideous thing. While as an atheist I can not only agree with and practice all of the same good moral actions, I can disagree with the bad ones. You're eating a decent sandwich with some bad meat in the middle...
as8494 The Bible also says anyone who calls another person a fool is in danger of hell fire. So, having called others "fools," you are now in danger of going to hell.
I've known people to suggests that honesty is somewhat ridiculous, and when I express my affinity for honesty they think I'm putting on a front. Like I'm pretending to be as they say, "perfect", or conversely fake. In other words, they look at it as if it's an unobtainable standard.
when religion ruled the earth it was called "the dark ages"
emanuel e How can a "lack of religion" be a religion? is not smoking a habit? is a "non athlete" a profession? Is a person riding a bicycle called a "non-motorist"?
Atheism is the exact opposite of a religion.
emanuel e Wow, i think you are confused.
*Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion.*
"_Atheism is usually defined incorrectly as a belief system. Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." Some dictionaries even go so far as to define Atheism as "wickedness," "sinfulness," and other derogatory adjectives. Clearly, theistic influence taints dictionaries. People cannot trust these dictionaries to define atheism. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as "there is no God" betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read "there are no gods."_"
From Atheists.org
From Meriam Webster: a disbelief in the existence of deity
From urban Dictionary:
1.) A person who lacks belief in a god or gods.
So tell me, how is atheism a religion?
emanuel e No. no. no
Theism is the *belief* in a god moron.
A-theism, means *NO* belief in a god.
I am a fucking atheist, how can you tell me what i believe and what i don't? How about i start telling you what you believe?
emanuel e Just because you believe something does not make you religious.
you just told me ""Theism" comes from Greek "theos" meaning "god", so "atheism" is "without god""
So are you a god then? do you consider yourself a god? because that would violate a couple of gods commandments...
it's enough to have a set of stupid beliefs like you religion has.
So tell me, how can a *LACK OF BELIEFS* be a belief? how is that logically possible dude? Do you see how stupid that sounds?
Check this out:
IF ATHEISM IS A RELIGION THEN:
Not believing in Santa Claus is also a religion.
Unemployment is a job.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Not playing tennis is a sport.
Abstinence is a sexual activity.
An empty bowl is a meal.
Silence is a noise.
Remaining silent is a speech.
Not fighting is an act of violence.
Bald is a hair colour.
Not being part of the KKK makes you a racist.
emanuel e You just told me the word _theist_ means god and _atheist_ means without god.
So since you are a THEIST you must consider yourself god right? If theist=god? I'm using your definition
Unless you would like to change your definition of _theism_ to the proper one: *a belief that a god exists*
and then i would be correct about my definition of atheism.
If you live in the US, you're free to believe any ridiculous horseshit you want to.
AronRa nice to know that you criticize people based on what they believe
And the fact that your a GROWN MAN really doesn’t help that
what they believe = what they think is written in a book and that is leading them to vote laws (instead of facts, science, ...) , even if what's written in this book of them contradicts them
Clarence Spangle dude your freaking me out right now
AronRa True, but that’s one of the beautiful things about it
AronRa
That makes atheists, agnostics, and skeptics feel bad....Aron ra calling their philosophy 🏇$hit.
"You can't teach what you can't know." - I love the way Aron speaks.
So..why is he teaching.. then...?
Almost an American heavy metal version of Christopher Hitchens. We need more people like AronRa.
+Paul Samartzis for a man with a name that sounds like a candy bar, he is very cool
+Wanetta Renay I can`t disagree with that.
+Paul Samartzis
Imagine some greasy biker who looks like he could be with Hell's Angels drives up to you on his Harley and begins giving a phylogeny lecture :P
I know?! You`d think you was in the Matrix or something. He explains it so well too, easily on a PHD level.
seems like one cool hombre
What a brilliant, educated man. He's a very compelling speaker.
I am a long time fan of Aron Ra -- met him at the reason rally, nice fellow.
Karl Schuch I've only recently "discovered" him during my usual surfing for Hitchens gems. I hope to meet him the next time... ironically.... he comes to Vegas!
***** He is a scientist who devotes some of his time trying to educate the public so that HE doesn't have to disprove anything.
...only for gullible and uneducated atheists.
I live in Bulgaria (born and raised), and religion here has no such influence on people's everyday lives - this tradition was canceled during communism. Everyone nowadays has the right to believe in anything, but when it comes to the public sphere, religion is not the basis for the moral behavior of citizens. What you have in USA, is very close to thoecracy (at least, in majority of states). I sympathize with people like AronRa - their struggle is important to all of us. What they try to achieve is common knwoledge here, in Europe. Sad, but true.
VibratorDefibrilator. Thank you, from Texas.
He obviously hasn't been to America. America is extremely atheist friendly. From politics, entertainment, sports, etc...,
@@johnh226 - But it's a fact that religion plays a bigger role in the US than in Europe.
@@Metsada007 But it's a fact that we aren't a theocracy. Except for having a little influence on some extreme societal decisions, like abortion or gay marriage (a fight that they lost, by the way), the religious have very little real power anymore. And they lose more ground every year.
Atheist/none category is the fastest growing demographic in the US.
America is on the way to being theocracy.
"Why does anyone believe the Bible?"
A better question: "How can anyone believe the Bible?"
Oh hi, desert. Haven't seen you in a while. What's going on with that reality-show business you where talking about a few months back?
George W Bush Howdy George! The film crew for the reality TV show have not sold the idea to a network. I suspect it will not happen.
Desertphile Aww that sad what was it called?
Desertphile Don't know y'all, but it's a shame your vision didn't take off.
Richard Griffith
Easter bunny is real... He's just in a stew pot, not bouncing around hiding eggs.
The first words of the Bible say, "In the beginning...", which means, "Once upon a time...".
No, you mix the things. "Once upon a time" is the start of your myths.
emmanuel e The bible is a myth.
Not, really, sweetie. Myths are only those you blindly believe. Try to get education and a working brain.
YOU blindly follow a book
Which book do I follow, idiot?
Thank you AronRa. Thank you for being actually educated and also being good at getting points across. Thank you for going on Atheist Experience and everything else. I took biology in Canada and am grateful for people like you representing those of us who actually do the work and ask the tough questions and don't rely on faith. Thank you.
Brent Reid. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were worshipping Aron Ra.
Funny that you couldn't predict I wouldn't care about your inability to comprehend clear communication.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for clearing that up for me.
truepeace3
Well that might actually a good religion.
@@connorcyberlife6775cyber life tells us all we need to know
While you read and write these comments, babies are dying and suffering from disease and starvation.
The religious mind, or a person who believes in "fate" and "everything has a reason", can absolve themselves of the grief that comes with that. It's okay, those babies that died in horror and pain are in heaven.
An atheist can only assume the most obvious reality -- these babies died and suffered for no reason, and their death is final. Needless death of the young and innocent is so much more tragic when you don't make baseless assumptions about an "after-life".
"After-life"... what a disgusting concept. What a convenient excuse for the most inexcusable things.
Atheism allows us to accept and take responsibility for our species. Theism is about "absolution". "Everything works itself out in the end." Theism is simply an irresponsible assumption, with immeasurable and disastrous consequences.
Every church-funeral you go to of a tragic death of a young person, people will be telling themselves, "it's okay". It's *not* okay. We can *obviously* do better, but we won't, if people would rather talk about the glory of Jesus, instead of the reality that we *all* live in.
Kurt H your forgetting something far more important then babies dying and suffering from disease and starvation--- what is more important than eternity
Kurt H afterlife is not afterbirth. stupid.
Kurt H while we read and write these comments, babies are being killed by abortion,but that's okay,thats the American way.
Kurt H while we read and write these comments, babies are being killed by abortion,but that's okay,thats the American way.
I Am That I Am; You conveniently forget that according to the bible, God's the biggest abortionist in the world, let alone infanticidal, so you're in no position to be playing that card buddy.
At first, I thought he was the antagonist from Pocahontas.
Checkmate atheists.
No, he's the bad guy from Mulan
Get in line
He's got better hair than I.
I mean, I live Aron for what he his, but if they did a live action and he could stomach playing a religious fanatic, he could pull it off marvelously.
I do not find love in god
I do not find rest in religion
I do not find peace in belief
I find contentment in atheism
I find comfort in the absence of a higher power
I find happiness in knowledge
A whole world of possibilities open up
When you take off the blindfold
Truth is we're on our own.
Stop posting these comments, like wow so inspiring you told someone something isn’t real. Do something better - DADDYJIGSAW
Amen to that brother 🙏
Even I could write a Holy book and get more prophecies correct than the Bible!
Do it!
Let me see you try. Then I need to see the prophecy happen.
Ok . . . there will still be religious nuts who believe in fairy tales 100 years from now who think that the Old Testament laws such as how to sell your children into sexual slavery and killing infants and girls who aren't virgins on their wedding night! There! Already got more then the Bible right there.
EASYMAK777 rekt.....
Where did you learn that from? Did you read the bible? Or got that off the internet or is that the only thing you can come up with. What you stated was "Even I could write a Holy book and get more prophecies correct than the Bible!" I asked you to do it. You obviously can't but you sure know how to repeat something someone else has taught you. There will still be religious nuts who believe in fairy tales that happened 100 million years ago, such as DNA magically appeared out of nothing milions and millions of years ago. Then it "evolved" into what exists now. C'mon. That's not scientific. That's just an excuse. You should read the bible and come up with a better excuse to reject it.
Prophecies? The fact that the book of Daniel predicted the precise rise and fall of the most powerful kingdoms to exist in the ancient world. (Babylon, then Medo-Persia, then Greece, then Rome) Read Daniel 2 and 7 if you consider yourself a free thinker. The king of babylon had a dream and Daniel was able to interpret it. History shows how accurate the interpretation of the dream. The vision that Daniel has later verifies and interprets the dream he had. It verified Medo-Persia was run by 2 kings:one less and one greater. Then in the book of Daniel it was predicted that Greece was going to take Jerusalem by one king (Alexander the Great) and then the kingdom would split in four, signified by Alexander dying and having the kingdom given to 4 generals. Then he predicted and saw in the dream that Rome would take over Jerusalem by Greece. If you actually look into the history of Israel/Palestine as well as the history of Jerusalem you would know it is verified the prophecies in the book of Daniel are accurate and factual. Read a book.
Let's look at more things the prove the bible and it's prophecies to be true
“Faith is an insertion of absolute conviction that is assume without reason and is defended against all reason.”
― AronRa
+Paul Samartzis You and your mentor have a lot of faith anyway
AronRa is not my mentor , he is however a great educator of biology and evolution ,also he actually cares that his country is going down the ranks in world education because a superstitious mumbo-jumbo. We , and other freethinkers do not have `faith` , we only have confidence in what we know to be true. If something has not been established by facts , then it can not be asserted as true. `Faith` is the exact opposite , it is a strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof. ALL religion have only faith. The difference between you and me is , I will follow where the evidence leads me to and because science takes no sides , I only follow the science and the facts that back up and will amend every time new discoveries are made. You have a fixed belief that dates backs some 2,000 years. Stories written by shepherds and goat herders of how the cosmos is.... I`m sorry but the world should move on and it`s time that we let go of this childish poison.
_is however a great educator of biology and evolution_
For some people it might be great to be an educator of something that never existed aka evolution
My friend , it is obvious that you have no idea what evolution is, and it would be far too long to try and explain it to you on a youtube comment section. Look you`ve come to an AronRa video , so why don`t you spend just 20 minutes on one of his video`s on the subject. If you listen to the facts on what we already know you might understand more. You may have fixed beliefs that are disproved , but just remember , Science takes sides with nobody, Science is only science when science can prove it with facts and evidence. Science does not know how to lie and when it does it is very quickly dismissed as being science in the first place. Science works and you are witnessing it right now by reading this comment which was delivered to you at the speed of light. Now isn`t that fact far more awe-inspiring than any myth about talking snakes and burning bushes.
_ it is obvious that you have no idea what evolution is, and it would be far too long to try and explain it_ It would be indeed difficult, sweetie, considering that currently there are tens of versions for your evolution myth.
AronRa is correct. The Bronze Age goat herders who wrote the Buybull didn't even know about conception. They didn't know women produced eggs.
Whether they had this information or not didn't keep them from reproducing very successfully I might add. So how did not knowing about conception really hurt them? Moreover both you and AronRa could be descendants of The Bronze Age goat herders. Remember people don't have the ability to choose your lineage. That is a fact that even science cannot contest. Peace!
Lea Leandre I'm not putting the Bronze Age goat herders down for their lack of knowledge at all.
But both AronRa and I are wondering why people today believe the Buy-bull despite the knowledge we have now.
Get a brain, my silly believer in the supernatural nature
You go to heaven for the atmosphere and you go to hell for the company.
lautz73 you mean sitting in heaven either with your mind changed to where’s everyone is like a robot with only good thoughts and nothing bad happens or you retain your own personality but know people you loved are in hell being tortured forever and you exist in heaven with that knowledge forever
Either way it’s nothing a normal decent human being would wanna be part of
Religion,still the world's # 1 killer...
I have no belief at all in any religion,as worthless as yesterday's news paper..still the world's number one killer,and still pure fiction..there are no talking snakes
I hate to break it to you but statistics show that progressive science has killed more people then all religion combined. Ww2 ring a bell? Though the war wasn't religious in nature it sure did attack some points of it eh? Guns a bombs dude I can go on forever
***** You can use yesterdays newspapers to house train puppies or wrap fish and chips in so they are actually more useful than religion.
***** was is and will likely continue to be
it's all bull shirt,and the biggest lie on earth
1) Fear of "Hell" 2) Dream of entering "Heaven", to become immortal.
I think if everybody read it, they'd realize Satan was the good guy the whole time
Damon Richter fr tho
I don't think so he was as much a monster as God was. Read the book of Job and you will see your comment is absurd. Satan was Gods flunkey.
@@truu-dl8rp that one gets to me lol. God just goes up to the devil and is like “hey look what I can do” and just tortures a guy to try to win a bet.
Satan isnt as much the good guy as he is the Liberating and overly hyperactive annoying little shit - side character.
Satan was made with the intention to be horrible so there really isnt any way for me to interpret it other than annoying or evil as an athiest still.
@@S_-- He was joking about the fact that the god described in the bible is arguably acting morally worse than satan.
In my case, the answer was "Because people I trusted told me to and I was too young to know any better." The moment I actually started actually thinking about this stuff is the moment the first cracks in my faith started to appear.
AronRa Atheist, skeptic, scholar, biker. Proving stereotypes and fallacious, magical arguments, wrong. One massive, big-booted, ass-kicking step at a time.
Thank you for enlightening me and helping me understand the bible for what it is. I was born in an Anglican household and went to church on Sunday. I have read the bible but I did not understand what I was reading. It was not until I began listening to open minded persons as yourself that I went back to the bible and realized I was confused and getting frustrated and angry from the words in it. I have a new world opening to me now that I should ask questions and research to get the facts. Thank you again.
I'm in the same boat. The more I studied the Bible, the further I went from God. There are just too many issues to accept it as fact.
@@yosh3058 there's the old phrase, the fastest way to be an atheist is to read the bible
@@yosh3058 says: *I'm in the same boat. The more I studied the Bible, the further I went from God. There are just too many issues to accept it as fact.*
There are no issues preventing anyone from accepting the bible as fact with the exception of their wrong perspective of the evidence.
If you have the correct and proper perspective of the evidence then it proves the bible to be true.
To those who say that Christians doesn't have to follow the Old Testament, please explain this:
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"
Paul said the opposite, and everyone knows that Paul outranks god.
No problem. Jesus came to fulfill the law, by dying. He didn't die in vain, he,died because we couldn't atone for our own sins.
bam bam bigelow
Funny that Jesus said nothing of the sort. Funny also how the world has gone on for a couple of thousand years after "everything" was accomplished.
+Michael Sommers are you actually being serious? This isn't my opinion or feelings, it is a week known fact in Christian theology. That's an extremely elementary argument, you may as well have brought up dinosaurs lol
Just because it's part of Christian dogma doesn't mean it is true.
This guy is a cross between Penn Teller and Steven Segal.
I belaive in duh bible becuase i am smart. I nver read it though, bcause us chirstians don't like books.
LOL you hit the head of the nail on that one
@@MrWiibetrollin the cross.....im sorry...lol
@@Golems_wrath That's not a nail, it's a phillips screw!
@@cpuwrite lol...bud you know im an athiest but why not have fun. Your funny and cool. May i add
@@Golems_wrath I'm pretty much what you'd call an Idontcarian...so I don't care that you're an atheist. That is to say, I would probably like you regardless of your religion. Too often, these forums bring out a contentious side of me...so I'm usually glad of the opportunity for a little levity.
Why do religious people come here to embarass themselves? It's beyond me..
But YOU are a religious, sweetie. So you have to answer your own question. I hope you can.
+emanuel e If I'm one you're another. Pee Wee Herman, is that you?
That must be a Chinese, sweetie. I am not. And unlike you, I am not religious.
I was just thinking how painful it must be for theists to be listening to reason and logic, and not being able to counter it with anything other than "my faith."
muh feth*
Can't you articulate sentences, my little stupid elderberries?
David Renwick Look at the top comment thread between me and UltimateBargains. It might change your life.
@justtellthemno You failed to provide strong, valid evidence to support your claim that God exists in your discussion with @UltimateBargains
I can answer in one word, "Fear".
i can answer in 4 words, "sciecne proves the Bible." that's one reason
hit me up, if you're interested, my fellow youtube user
@@spider-man9118Have you ever asked yourself what other things in all of your life, you had to "Prove" to someone ? "Science" is where a bunch of different people all come to the same conclusion about something you can test and retest. Why a religious person would want to bring "Science" into a book that clearly had no understanding of it, I don't know?
@@spider-man9118 Science and religion draw on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations are based on evidence drawn from observing the natural world and conducting experiments. Because these explanations are based on evidence, they can be checked independently by others.
Scientific questions (aka hypotheses) are framed in ways so that they can be confirmed or disproved by evidence. If the evidence shows that the hypothesis is wrong, the hypothesis must be reframed and tested again or rejected.
Religious beliefs don’t depend only on empirical evidence. They can also be based on faith and typically involve supernatural forces or entities.
@@spider-man9118 Theologians and other people of faith have a variety of perspectives on science. Some theologians have proposed critically important scientific ideas and undertaken scientific exploration. For example, Georges Lemaître, a Belgian Catholic priest, was one of the first people to propose almost 100 years ago that the universe first began when extremely condensed matter rapidly expanded (now called the “Big Bang theory”).
And for centuries the Vatican has maintained an astronomical observatory and has appointed a scientifically trained chief astronomer
That analogy to the twilight zone episode is dead on. Never thought of that.
Man created god in his own image and likeness.
Gordon Bradley and white man made him be the only white guy in the early Middle East
yes, flawed.
Ok. Got any evidence for that?
I’d like to see your evidence
If man created god who created man?
Because people are gullible.
and fearful
"Why do people believe the Bible?" Because it tells them exactly what they want to hear. If it said "Get rid of all slavery; don't pay your taxes", it would have been allowed to spread?
ehm no the bible promoted slavery
@@timo4463 your only proving his point, he’s saying the same thing
Christians did get rid of slavery. It was the Christian abolitionist movement. Try researching your topic before saying nonsense.
Yeah, tells people what they want to hear? Like to fight their sinful nature and obey God? That’s much more difficult than doing whatever you want.
@@juke1225Christians didn't get rid of slavery, they just went from chattel to serfdom. Serfdom was basically slavery, you just couldn't sell your serfs but you could sell the land they lived on.
@@juke1225 the abolition of slavery was a secular movement lead by christians but strongly opposed by devout christians. everyone in the west was christian back then.
I'm Pagan myself. For me it's a personal thing--and not something i push on others. I've come under fire for it several times, but it's part of me.
However, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents here.
Aaron--WOW!! I wish you could have continued this. It's too bad they had to cut you short. This was wonderful.
"Why does anyone believe the Bible?"
I have no fucking idea.
Would be better to listen to if the sound quality wasn't muffled out. Love this guy tho,very open and intelligent mind.
How religion works: “believe in magic, even if you’re wrong”
Religion makes no progress toward a concensus understanding of God's will, God's words, or God's nature, or the nature of the real world in over 6000 years of recorded religious thought. Science continually comes to more and more detailed consensus understandings of the real world, of morality, of life, the Universe, and Everything. Religion everywhere and always opposes human progress in every sphere of endeavour. Science gives us continual progress in all areas of human endeavour.
Ullrich Fischer Man thats what I've being trying to say, except you've said it a lot better :)
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science... Look science is a great branch of knowledge but please.. Science does not answer everything, science does not answer the deeper meaning of morality. Nazi germany was the most scientifically advanced nation, look at what they did with their morality. Science is not the only way to truth, its a great branch of knowledge but it is not the only way to truth.
Murri16 Science is: A systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe. In an older and closely related meaning, "science" also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied. Source Wikipedia.
If you are not going to use science, do intend to just make it up? Look up the Scientific Method here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Have a good read and come back and explain how you are going to explore Morality otherwise.
do you believe science is the only way to know all things?
Murri16
Of course not, personal experience being the obvious example. It is not transferable or of any value to any other person outside of shared personal experience. Unless you are starting up a new religion, and you are the next messiah. In that case good luck, there are many who will just believe anything they are told if they like it.
Powerful logic and reasoning. Loved it !!! ....I joined AA over 2 years ago to learn how to stay sober and enjoy living sober. It is said in AA that honesty with yourself is the cornerstone to success in the program. I became honest about not believing in the higher power they were all talking about. I still go to meetings to show other members that a non-theist can stay sober and there are many other reasons I like about going to meetings.
Good for you, Joseph! I wish you all good things. :)
I agree, self-honesty is indeed uppermost in maintaining sobriety, but in my experience, self-knowledge is up there too. However, one must always come before the other and sometimes is a long time coming. I hope more people like you speak up and continue to engage in recovery programs without giving all the credit for such a difficult undertaking to a "power greater than" themselves. It's all down to the individual, they did it and are doing it! Hopefully more people will see that and feel empowered by that, as they rightly should.
AA may be slow to alter, but the more attendees designating their "higher power" as theirself, or their "higher self" might help it along. Lots of small rebellions eventually cause change.
If it works for you, great but I think you don't need to keep a record of how many days sober you've been. Also, if you can learn to work through whatever issues led you to drink, you will find no special power in alcohol over you. Drink responsibly and infrequently. Learn that a single beer doesn't need to led you into a bender, and don't destroy your confidence and pride (feeling oh I have to start all over again) if one day you stumble.
AA is not the only way, and you are the one that has the power to say "no" to alcohol, or the power to limit it to a single drink without going overboard. A child has the mindset of "all or nothing"; learning how to be an adult is the only way to move forward.
The "I am an alcoholic" shaming beat down of your self-confidence, and then to state that all the effort you made is due to god is truly disgusting. We don't need the shaming labels. You are not an alcoholic, or a druggie or whatever, you are a person who felt a chemical or psychological dependency on something.
Think I am wrong? Well for some people, their drug of choice is food. They are just as psychologically and chemical dependent on overeating as you were with alcohol - do we tell them to stop eating altogether and count the days since their last meal? No, of course not. If they can learn self-control, so can you. Words to think about.
tomatodamashi You seem to assume you've got the whole of all humane nature for all ages of every person walking this planet wrapped up neatly in a Fox News one size fits all package. It's a good bet you've never once sat in on an open forum AA meeting and you have no idea the feeling of actually being so physically hooked on any type of booze for years. You are wrong for sure about who I am and I consider you to be a common fool with confidence.
***** I didn't lie about my excessive drinking and the only requirement to join is a desire to stay sober. I needed sober people to help me live sober because I failed on my own to even slow down my drinking. I didn't need to be superstitious to join AA and it's worth it to me to tolerate all the "higher power" god smack to discuss sober living with sober people. All the "praise Jesus" is just white noise to me and I don't make any negative comments about it.
Jason Leonard If I lived near Chicago I would like to try Quad A... Meanwhile I think it's good to make my three AA groups a little more diverse with a different personality such as myself so the newcomers can hear my story along with all the other members.
I just found Aron and all the other atheist activists. So life changing.
"If it doesn't matter what the facts are, then it doesn't matter what the truth is."
-- AronRa
If the above isn't among the most important points Aron has ever brought to a talk or discussion or debate, I don't know what is. Thank you, Aron.
This is the best speech I have ever heard from someone on our side. The most fact filled, informative, logical,rational 20 minutes I have ever been witness to. I have had debates with theists for hours and never even come close to this sort of "check mate" I cannot understand how theists can continue on with their blinders on after listening to these indefensible facts. Thanks Aron.
About liars, he's sure right, my mother lied from the moment she woke up to the moment she went to sleep. About the MOST ridiculous stuff. It was embarrassing. She couldn't even keep her stories straight. And everything was my fault. If I scraped my knee, she would be "We have to go to the doctor, this is all your fault." I was 6, And would say, "I just need to clean it off." So I would. Meanwhile, she would take a bath, put on fancy clothes, spend 2 hours putting on make up. All the while chastising me for making her do all this work. By then, the wound had dried up and I covered it with a BAND AID. I heal very fast. Fortunately. If I didn't I would have bled to death with her 3 hour ritual. Unbelievable.
+SpeakerWiggin49 is that part of your" sucks to be you" philosophy of things
Well, my dad was great. I just ignored the hell out of her. I wish my dad could have done that. But, for some bizarre reason he loved her.
Hope your dad owned a brain and wasn't a believer in the supernatural nature like his stupid son.
Sounds like my own mother. I have Newman relatives, maybe our mothers are related.
It's so cool to see how Aron's public speaking skills have improved over time. In this one, he stumbles over names and other details, he overestimates how much time he has... It's night and day when compared with some of his later lectures.
That was so good I wish it were another 20 minutes.
You know, as a recovering Christian I am constantly shocked at some of the things Aron claims the bible and particularly christians do and say. I think to myself, "no, surely not the 'loving' group of people I used to associate myself with and identify as" so I do what any right-minded skeptic would do, I google it 😂 only to find that he is in fact correct. As a christian though, of course, I never would have known of such things, but fortunately now, as an Atheist, I am not limited to strictly Christian and Conservative news outlets, lol.
You are no longer restricted by the tunnel vision provided by god glasses.
Is Jahwe Jesus?
@@Tessinentdecken some would say. Officially, I guess you could say, JHWH (the English transliteration of the Hebrew term used in the Old Testament) was/is the God of the Jews in most of the old testament. Not every Christian believes in the trinity but those who do would say that it follows that Jesus and JHWH are one in the same.
@@ARMYStrongHOOAH17 thx for your view on this matter. I believe that the historical Jesus of Nazareth was human and that history made him a God He was crucified but not for the sins of mankind.
While you gave evidence that belief in the Bible is unwarranted, and that those who claim to believe in the Bible are confused on many points, and willfully ignorant about important scientific findings, you failed to fulfill the promise of your thesis, and develop a theory of "Why does anyone believe the Bible?". But, no matter: it's because they are programmed to do so through trust in their loved ones, typically as children, trusting parents, who tell them that the Bible is True.
Thus, belief in the Bible doesn't come about by reading the Bible. People who believe the Bible do so *before* they read it. And that belief is maintained through deceptions about the contradictions, failed prophecies, forgeries, fables, and false observations of the natural world contained therein.
Update: I realized later that instead of interpreting the title as the direct question "*why* does anyone believe the Bible?", an alternate understanding is as a rhetorical question "why does *anyone* believe the Bible?", implying that the Bible is not worth believing. In this latter view, you *did* indeed fulfill the thesis of the title of this video. I apologize if I have accused you wrongly.
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spongefreddie And why did you ask you mother to buy one for you at Goodwill? What was your motivation for that?
spongefreddie Your first post did not draw a logical link between "I had to ask ..." and "... there was no instruction...", and I wanted to avoid assuming such a link. It might be that the answer to my question could be inferred from your post, but I wished to get more details, more explicit cause from you.
So, I understand from your post and your reply that you asked for the Bible because you wanted some information about "God". From this, I can infer that you had an a priori assumption that the Bible is a reliable source of information about that figure. Therefore, you fit my model in that you *believed* the Bible *before* you read it. Furthermore, you wouldn't have had this belief unless you adopted it from *something* that *someone* you trusted had said to you. I expect that this trusted person was a family member or friend, though perhaps some otherwise-loved authority figure, like a teacher.
Moreover, you had some faith that this "God" figure was a character *worth* seeking. Again, you must have already been programmed with this evaluation *before* you read the Bible, as you *at last* have admitted, "... I already believed ...".
Come on!? Do you expect us to belief that you adopted faith in "God" *ex nihilo* without any influence from family or friends? And you accuse *me* of folly?
DocZom You're right: my hypothesis *is* overstated, in that I present it as an absolute generalization, without any equivocation of "mostly", "almost all", etc. OTH, I haven't yet come across a falsification, SpongeFreddie notwithstanding, so I don't really feel the need to equivocate at all.
nb: SpongeFreddie, you don't have to reply to your own post to correct or update: you can now *edit*.
spongefreddie
What you're suggesting is that you chose to investigate christian belief, but never once in your entire life, encountered the word god, never met anyone who believed in christianity, never heard anything about jesus or god in school, in books, on the tv or anywhere else. You don't think that might be hard to believe? I'd say unless you were locked in a room without windows, in solitary confinement with no access to any information from the outside world at all, you're not being honest. Can you honestly say that was the case? you yourself admitted that you chose the bible because you grew up in a Christian area, which means that you had christian influence, direct or not. If you were in as secular a world, as you imply per your claim, then you should have had equal access to books on multiple gods.
Furthermore, yes, everyone wants to know where they came from, but without ever hearing about the bible from anyone else ever, and intuitively understanding what it contained? There's no reason to believe that at all. How could we? It goes against our understanding of learning and we can't test the claim to verify it.
What we can demosntrate though, supported by evidence, is that around 50% of children have imaginary friends and that the activites in the brain, that cause and allow this phemomena are 100% natural in origin.
They are also the same systems that allow people to believe in gods, ghosts, fairies and boogey-men. Empathy, the behavior of learning from and believing authority figures (which speeds our growth of knowledge allowing us to learn faster and survive better) and Alien Agency which allows us to ideintify other being, attribute them as having their own minds and will, enabling us to understand that sounds in the dark may be dangers (look at how many people are scared of the dark, especially children) and also allows us to sympthise/empathis with others.
I put it to you that, living in what you admit was a christian society, upon asking what a bible is, you would have been told about what it contains, after which these processes went to work. Beyond that, your continued belief is a matter of choice and circumstance of your own creating. you convinced yourself, and allow others and yourself to add to that belief, avoiding information which is contrary, whether you know you're doing that or not.
spongefreddie after your reasons for searching for a bible, i can only think of how different your life and ideas would have formulated had you sought knowledge in a book more like the dhammapada or other ancient sutras of the buddhist pali canon. there is more than one way to seek meaning in the universe, understanding of what reality is. the christian religion is not self evident in our reality, only in the minds of human beings. the bible teaches you that you will go on after you live, you have a soul and spirit, your body is not just one thing.... you believe all that? it teaches you that youre seperate from other things, but in reality, all life in the universe is part of one giant cosmic event with many occurences that allow life to take place. you dont have to exist. no one ever asked to be born. we all need to take a step back and evaluate what life is. i mean, come on, christianity just logically disprovable as a concept and moral system and philosophy. i know your comment is old but i just wanted to say that youre looking from the wrong angle. the idea of a anthropomorphic creator god is not a good assumption about the universe. the idea of a personal god in general isnt a great assumption. you said youre worried about your backyard and not others, this would be a very buddhist concept... the entire religion is based on the idea of the self in relation to the external self/outside physical world. the organism is a part of the universe and its part of us, the outside world around you is a part of your organism because it determined every single thing your body would develop into. its inseparable from you. the bible does not evaluate reality at all, it just tells you to obey and illustrates why you shouldnt fuck with god basically, and then how god has to kill his own son to save you from his own wrath through his grace, while remaining omnipotent, even though he couldnt just forgive us and avoid that instead of creating a loophole against himself. so much for omnipotence. and also, he creates people into eternal damnation. not cool
Given how God acts toward his creations throughout the Bible, I'd say he's a complete monster. He may say he "loves" his creations but his actions say otherwise.
This is probably more relevant now than it was back then, unfortunately.
"It is not possible to be dishonored except on your own accord." That's one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard.
Thank you so much…. I see more christians taking their minds back because of your courage…. It's a slow process… This cult has been at it for a long long time, but it is happening…. So thank you from the bottom of my heart…..
Never stop Aron when he speaks! Let others wait...they'll be fine with it 🖖
I think the answer is that actually, a lot of religious people don't really care about it enough to either believe or disbelieve. I went to a Catholic primary school, and we would sometimes have tests about bible knowledge, and I remember distinctly that most of the other kids barely managed to get a passing grade in most of those tests. As you demonstrate here, most religious people don't know much about the bible and in fact they often believe a bunch of stuff that isn't in the bible or which the bible directly contradicts.
I think that the most important part of religion to religious people is the sense of community, and as long as being religious doesn't prevent them from getting on with their life, they don't care enough to make any active choices about it. It's not about the question of whether or not something is true, but the question of whether or not a belief will cause turbulence in their life.
Great video!!First time I've come across anything you've done-really like what your saying.Now if the damn believers would just accept knowledge.
AronRa: you are a genuine inspiration and an incredible speaker! Thank you for your dedication to eradicating ignorance.
Because of childhood indoctrination. Or in some cases indoctrination during a vulnerable time later in life. And then people connect meditative experiences to the indoctrinated mythology.
AronRa looks like Governor Ratcliffe from Disney's Pocahontas.
Still like this guy.
I like his logic, his research and his hair!
I would have liked to have heard the rest of your speech, AronRa.
AronRa you are such a badass!!!! Love your channel!!
The Bible is like the world's oldest farmers almanac. The sun reaches its lowest angle for 3 days and then rises. We know winter is ending.
Extensive study of the bible is what finally made an atheist out of me.
Aaron Ra I'm newly subscribed to your Channel. then I must say you are brilliant. I wish more people had your common sense and your ability to question what we've all been taken for granted since we've been brainwashed since birth to believe in nonsense keep up the good work keep spreading the truth. I've seen very few people with the uncanny ability to dissect the Bible the way you do. the sad aspect of what you're teaching is, most religious people will never accept it. it's too late for them maybe you can enlighten the next generation and they will benefit from everything that you're saying. man will not grow as long as religion is in charge. again keep up the good work
AronRa says he doesn't care about your love for him.
nice.. I really enjoyed listening to that..
The part at the end resonated very much with me, I detest liars and lying is, perhaps outside of physical violence, the worst thing you can do to a person.
I love the way Aron brings in the episode of Twilight Zone ( It's A Good Life ) where the character, Anthony Freemont says " Only think good thoughts,or else " The character also points his finger at a man saying: " You're a bad man. You've a very bad man " and subsequently turns him into a Jack in the Box
you have the right to believe something that is wrong as long as you dont try to impose that on other people or use that belief to impact other peoples lives.
I think you have summed it up perfectly. Thanks.
The audio is damaged :(
It sounds like they listened to you and corrected the audio. Mine was very good.
Would love a modern UA-cam remake version of this lecture so that I can understand you lmao
It is so true that dishonorable people will commit an act of malice, point to how wrong you are for getting upset, then say this is what they can't stand about you. Hell should be real for them.
This guy looks like Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas.
LOL True!
I like AronRa he speaks with common sense and rationality.
I got to watch Aaron's first formal debate in person in Dallas a while back. He's a really nice guy.
I wish you had 40 more minutes to talk. Or better yet; 400. I’d watch every minute of it, this lecture was excellent!!
12:11 This is what I thought when I was young but was afraid to tell anyone
Based on looks only, if I was casting the fabled ground troll of the Devil in a movie I'd cast AronRa.
Post your photo so we can make cracks about you.
Max Keeson Well we have your photo fucktard and you qualify as a troll.
0917bobb its not a crack, I would do it. He'd be perfect for it. get off your over sensitive high horse.
This was amazing. If anyone knows where he does the full speech, please send me a link!
Well worth the time to listen to just for the thoughts on honesty and truth. Thanks Aron.
0:17 - 80,000 subscribers in 2013... in January 2019, almost 200,000 subscribers! Good job, AronRa!
I would like to ask... why can't any of you debate fairly or kindly? Blocking doesn't make you win the debate
People are mean.
Jessica Klaus indeed
Actually, there are a few who debate with dignity and consideration. Unfortunately, they seem to be in the minority.
Patrick Allen indeed,
Patrick Allen I'm aware.
I’m anti abortion but not because of the Bible. It’s a shame it is used as such a big argument against abortion.
“Oh, am I out of time?” Is basically Aron Ra’s sign off. I love the passion.
Love all the Jesus Freak comments.Why even bother.
They search for Atheist videos just to harass us, but WE'RE the ones who should just let others believe what they want.
Incorrect, I study both sides and the more I study the more the creation argument dominates.
Evolution is also a religion and requires just as much faith to believe in ( actually more) as creation.
@@marshalllaw4116 Well there it is, the most intellectually dishonest thing I've read all day.
@@Transylvania-kv4sg ,then give me one example of a species evolving into another species?
I'll wait...........
@@marshalllaw4116 Peppered moths. They used to be white with some black spots but now they're entirely black with almost no examples of the former still existing, but that wasn't even my point. You attempted and failed to present yourself from an unbiased centrist position but in reality, you're a creationist with no integrity which is made evident by your parroting of creationist talking points. I highly doubt you "examined" both sides but rather started from a position and worked (if at all) to find any evidence that supported what you already believed. Evolution also isn't a religion since religion requires either a supernatural aspect such as a god, or a more colloquial aspect such as ascribing great importance. The only way the belief in evolution is a religion is if some geek gets super excited about it, and by that same logic (and dictionary definition) evolution is a religion in the same way football is, but not in the same way Judaism, Christianity, or Islam is. Attempting to present it the same way one would any of the Abrahamic faiths is incredibly dishonest. And a last point, Evolution does not require faith. You do realize that even if humans didn't evolve from our scientifically established ancestor species, evolution would still be a thing even if only in a smaller way. All evolution means is change over time, and species change all the time. For example, humans are on average 4 inches taller than we were 300 years ago. That is a change observed across our species. We were collectively all once shorter, and now we're not. A change occurred in our species, which is literally what evolution is.
my god the audio quality on this video is awful
Sean Sevasta Did you just complain to God that the audio on this video is awful? Priceless.
truepeace3. Beyond being a figure of speech, I think from an atheist it's a bit more profane. And more than saying "by Jove" with no belief in Jupiter.
My audio quality was excellent. They must have listened to you and fixed it.
No apparently my AirPods Pro need to be replaced cuz the audio is fine using other headphones or speakers.
can we have the rest of the talk you didn't get a chance to give?
Ahh! The audio is 180 degrees out of phase between the speakers! So it can either sound all wispy and non directional, or if you put it in mono it's almost silent.
Looks like I'll be listening to this with the balance knob all the way to one side.
Greatest man in the universe... :)
You must live a very sheltered life.
Edward Overkleeft
I agree among atheists Sam Harris is head and Shoulders above Aron ra. At least Sam Harris is civil to Christians despite sharp disagreements.
Why does anyone believe the koran??
emanuel e Not really. I've only just started reading the Koran but so far, it seem just as bad as the Bible. One thing is painfully clear, Allah and Yahweh are indeed one and the same. I'd recognize that scumbag, psychopath anywhere.
emanuel e
So, I should rely on a silly old book written by warmongering, lecherous, goat herders thousands of years ago? Uhh, no. Christianity and Islam both were spread by the sword. The bible cannot stand on it's own merits. If it could, Christians wouldn't need to threaten us with hell or bribe us with heaven. It the bible were true, it would invite scrutiny and criticism. Christians take offense when we question the bible. I wonder why... 😏
emanuel e
Talking snake, parting seas, virgin birth, walking on water, turning water into wine, the sun staying still in the sky (geocentric universe), man from dust, woman from a rib. Harry Potter isn't this outlandish.
emanuel e
Study evolution, you clearly know nothing about it.
emanuel e I know the earth orbits the sun, which is more than Joshua could say. 😸 I was raised a Baptist and if I didn't think for myself, I would be one, still. Never again shall I be enslaved to superstition.
There were some issues with the sound. I don't know if you know about this but I thought might like to know. possible censorship?
What kind of motorcycle do you currently have? I have a 2006 Kawasaki ZX10R.
This audio is basically useless. At least caption the thing. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Plug headphones in, or use a speaker. Through the phone, it sounds broken.
I sympathize with the plight of the deaf. I think a more appropriate course of action would be for you to request captioning on all You Tube videos. I can certainly see why that would be helpful for our deaf cohorts.
Aron Ra is great!
I read in a Christian tract,"Read the Bible daily" so I went from there. I was only 14 yrs old so was impressionable
Congrats on having 142 k subscribers now.
Because we don't do what you are willingly doing. Supressing the truth in unrighteousness. Instead of giving glory to God you make yourself a God. May God give you the gift of repentance. And anyone else who suppress the truth.
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That's not what the Bible says.
sav3dbygrac3 The bible, was written by man. Salamander's point still stands.
Derp!
***** And a five year old can recognized bullshitters on utube just as easy as spotting your claim.
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Yet by circular reasoning you believe in Evolution. Now how do you make sense of that?
Poor Aron, no cbristian will ever listen to him. He look like the devil or a wizard or something.
Christians don't listen to anyone. Their religion tells them to fear anyone who pokes holes in their myth, because the only way that they can go on believing is to close their eyes to logic and reason - and to facts.
There is no devil. There are no wizards. There is no biblical truth. If a person doesn't want to hear reason and knowledge, there will be nothing one can do to make them hear it. Poor Aron, he's not talking to christianists. Oh wait, rational people don't talk to religious fundamentalists if they can help it.
Don't you just love how religious people think there above it all. Anyone who does not follow is looked down on like we are missing something. Every religious person I have ever met turned out to be a utter fool. They just don't like to admit they might be wrong on there beliefs. Atheists are on the rise because more people are seeing religion for what it is. A big lie!
Uh oh. Bad sound. Is there another link? Super awesome subject Mr. AronRa 💙
I've watched this video a few times already but just now noticed the tan line on Ra's forehead... Rock on, Ra!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Fools say to themselves, "There is no God." They are corrupt and commit evil deeds; not one of them practices what is good Psalm 14:1. Satan has deceived many into believing that there is no God, and it is simply because he wants us to have the same fate as him (eternal death). Jesus made it possible for all humanity to saved by dying for our sins because he loves us so much. Who else is capable is creating the sun, moon, stars, oxygen and the list goes on and on....Invite Him into your hearts today for He loves and cares for you!!
The Bible says that no atheist does good things, just one more thing the Bible got wrong. Regardless what the Bible says, a fool is one who is fooled, by too readily believing impossible claims by credulous people on insufficient evidence.
AronRa That is where you are wrong. There is evidence that the bible is the inspired book of God. If you read the vision/dream that the king Nebuchadnezzar had in the book of Daniel you WILL be fully convinced. Read the book of Daniel and study it along with historical facts. Mind blowing! The bible encourages people to love their enemies, do not render evil for evil, do not lie or steal, or murder. Why would to you would to dissuade persons from believing in someone who encourages them to be decent people in society.
as8494 Genesis is wrong, mosef is wrong, buttload of it is WRONG. if it is inspried by god it's SHIT.
and you mean decent like stoning people?
as8494 A vision/dream as recorded from a third party is not evidence, it is not mind blowing (unless you have a small mind to blow) when you read these stories there is no way to prove Daniel knew what his dream was before he told anyone, that's a tool any storyteller can use, they write passages with the end already thought up. As for the bad things people do, the old testament [1/2 the bible] says to do horrible things. The new testament has been used by evil people to do evil things, it says slaves obey your masters, it says women do not speak up in church and be submissive to their husbands(no mention of his character), it says homosexuality is a sin(Epistle quotes) which is taken and run with by right wing Christians, who ignore the fact that divorce is just as much a sin and none will rally against that.
What I'm trying to convey is no matter how disillusioned you are and potentially good hearted you are, there are others doing horrible things in the name of the same god, simply watch kidnapped for Christ if you want one of many examples of how even Christianity given total control can turn into a hideous thing. While as an atheist I can not only agree with and practice all of the same good moral actions, I can disagree with the bad ones. You're eating a decent sandwich with some bad meat in the middle...
as8494 The Bible also says anyone who calls another person a fool is in danger of hell fire. So, having called others "fools," you are now in danger of going to hell.
The Bible is a book of lies and is the future toilet paper
Aron you are doing a good work I like your program thsnkyou
I've known people to suggests that honesty is somewhat ridiculous, and when I express my affinity for honesty they think I'm putting on a front. Like I'm pretending to be as they say, "perfect", or conversely fake. In other words, they look at it as if it's an unobtainable standard.
The ad on this video is trying to sell me god oil lol.