LG 2024 OLED TV Lineup Explained: 83" MLA M4, G4, C4, B4
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- LG has announced its 2024 OLED TV lineup, including the LG G4, M4, C4 & B4 series. Here are 8 things you need to know:
0:00 2024 OLED Range
0:20 #1 Thing to Know
0:52 #2 Thing to Know
1:44 #3 Thing to Know
2:11 #4 Thing to Know
4:22 #5 Thing to Know
4:45 #6 Thing to Know
5:05 #7 Thing to Know
5:32 #8 Thing to Know
5:55 LG G4 vs G3
6:52 LG C4 vs C3
7:24 LG B4 vs B3
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No MLA on the C4 is a massive disappointment
I disagree, they need to just drop the price on the C series and if you want MLA then buy the G class.
@@miltona891it’s mainly because Samsung’s S90 series offers MLA-tier brightness for much cheaper
@@TheAlienGangster I agree, this is why the price needs to drop of the C series
@@miltona891they don't mention the A even though I think it will still exist and is deliberate I always believed that the A model shouldn't exist. B should that that price range and C the B price range to be more competitive at that entry level.
Why? 144Hz is a big enough upgrade for PC gamers. They were never going to MLA on the C when it's the main feature for the G.
What a shame not having MLA on the C4. Great video as always!
5:34 I believe the B9 already had 4x 2.1 HDMI ports with the full 48Gbps bandwidth.
@davidmod03: Thanks for the information re the B9... we stand corrected.
I have the B9, there are 4 x HDMI 2.1 ports!
There was no way the C4 was gonna get MLA unless they had something new to add to the G4 to stratify it. And the heatsink would probably be the cheaper of the brightness upgrades to bring down a tier.
@@concinnus So then the G4 should have been released in 48". Am I ever going to buy an OLED TV, seeing as I want 50" max and I need decent brightness for a very bright lounge, plus reasonably-wide viewing angles? Indeed, I'm not sure if *anything* on the market suits to be honest, OLED or not, and I've been hanging-on for relevant improvements to come for about four years now. Samsung S90 perhaps?
@@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495 If even the East Asian market that would presumably be the most interested in small but quality TVs has not been enough for LG to bother, I doubt the rest of us will sway them.
After the c9, the c series are getting behind even more from the top displays. What a shame. Before it was the same image quality with only construction and sound different. I miss those days.
Think LG started to drop the nits on purpose so their G series will sell better.
No@@camarykaren
@@blitzwing1 B series, even A series were for that. The C special thing that made it the more popular at the time was: the best image, for less money.
have a c9 and bought a samsung s90c
samsung is better .but not that much noticible
Beautifully and clearly explained as always Vincent!
Thanks Vincent, you're the best
When you get your hands on one (or get to talk to LG), please ask whether VRR flicker (near black chrominance overshoot) is getting fixed or not.
Seeing the B4 getting 4x 2.1 HDMI ports and other significant upgrades, I wonder how the C4 will differentiate itself from the B4. A slightly better build quality and marginally higher refresh rate don't account for much, so that leaves only the processor as a significant difference.
Anyway, I just purchased a discounted LG 65C2 earlier today, and this video confirmed to me that this is the smart choice, cost-value wise. G lineup is too expensive for me, and evolutions on the C lineup since C1 have been marginal.
Marginal since the C9.
@@stianlavender1683 I wanted to write "since the CX" but didn't want to offend anyone.
C series is not good enough, and LG is doing it on purpose, its to force people to G series , C4 is a complete joke, its no different then C3 or C2 its just same stuff other then 144hz change, MLA should of been on C4 and they should just software nerfed the C4, or better yet make G series better so you can offer MLA on C4 tf.
The grass is not greener if you have a C1 OLED, use it till it gone. New stuff is not really much different and is a waste of money and time.
I have a C9 65" and an C2 83", the C2 is noticeably brighter. But the C9 has 5,000 hours, so it's not a completely fair comparison. I don't remember the C9 ever being as bright as the C2. I agree with the notion that there is very little updates every year.
Seeing that the upgrade on the C4 is just incremental, I guess it's reasonable to just get a heavily discounted C3.
Heavily discounted C2 would be enough too.
That’s how it always is with the c series.
uh yeah but when are they "heavily discounted"?
@@Decenium they are already discounted considering 4 series is about to launch.. and those discounts are going to get bigger to get rid of all tech stock (C2, C3 sets)
or just get a Samsung S90C which is better for the same price
Thanks for the video Vincent!
happy new year, vincent. the g4 looks like a great tv!
Every year the specs are more tempting but I really have no complaints about the G1 from 2021.
I say either keep it till qd oled or lg when fully new tech comes around or if you really what too get a G6 so you have 5 tvs improvement for the price of 1
I'd stick to the G1 until LG release a game changing feature on their TV that makes their picture quality, miles ahead of G1 or even G2 and G3
G1 can not burn your eyes like G4 can, this is a complaint.
I just ordered a G2 and can’t wait to get it! My actual tv is a 2011 Samsung D5000 series, is going to be such an upgrade for me! I would probably be fine for the next 8 😂
@@kasziel I came from a 2012 Samsung 55F8000, it was a great set that my sister still uses but the OLED is a different planet
Thank you Vincent! I bought my 65G3 this year to upgrade my C9 as my main TV and I can't be more than happy. I'd love to have the A11 SoC and at last 144Hz refresh rate for my PC but these are not something that makes me regret my decision to upgrade this year, which was admittedly the biggest and most meaningful upgrade leap from my C9. Looking forward to see your preview/review of the new series as soon as they are available next year.
I still have the lg c9.. be honest.. was there a big difference between the two when you got the g3
@@animenerd6673 I also still have it along with an older C7 and the last year's C2 for desktop use at 48''. Of course it does and compared to all. If you know what to look for of course. Unless you expected earth shuttering differences of conventional LED brightness levels and high percentage windows in comparison, there's really no comparison. Major differences in shadow detail retrieval, in tone mapping, in HDR presentation and PC gaming, in video processing in general, in bright room playback. As much as I love my C9 I think this was the next meaningful upgrade for LG OLED TV series with the MLA panel and the current SoC.
I also own the LG C9. Unfortunately I moved to a very bright appartment, would you say that the G3 could make a difference?
@@LeBonRoiLouisI went from E9 55" (C9 with build-in soundbar) to G3 77". In a very bright living room too. It's fantastic even on very sunny days. Sound on the G2 a friend has is much better though, with the G3 you need a soundbar at least.
Great info! Is the new sub pixel structure coming to any LG 2024 tv or that’s just for monitors?
no mla on the c4? that's going to be a hard sell unless they reduce the price.
They did not use MLA because they did not want to increase the price!
They can upgrade the chipset and keep the same price, but they can not use MLA or heatsink without increasing the price. Simple as that!
@@haukionkannel And thats why you buy a vastly superior S90/S89 C from Samsung. QD OLED, much cheaper. Makes a real dog out of the C series
@@haukionkannel Then what's the point of the C series now? B4 is almost as good as the C4 and the similarly priced S90D is going to be vastly superior to the C4.
@@552mustangThere are pros and cons to each tv. For example, while the Samsung may be a bit more bright and vibrant, it’s picture processing is not as good and the Tizen software is simply not on WebOS’s level. It also lacks DV, but this isn’t as issue to many
Would be an instant buy if they only offered a 42 inch @@Ishpreetb264
I want a 42" MLA panel. Let's hope we get that next year.
Not likely, unles they make g series 42” and that is also unlikely.
@@haukionkannel I highly doubt MLA will be exclusive to the G series forever. Might depend on what the competition does.
@@haukionkannel LG can't find the G spot with 42 inches...
...OK, I know where the door is.
@@Adri9570
Well LG may lack experience, but...
would expect them to know the basics.
@@Adri9570 That’s why we have Panasonic and Sony
This is the best TV reviews I've ever seen on youtube .
G4 83 " MLA yes please!!! Great video as always!
Thanks for your video. Do you now, if the current M3 is upgradeable with the upcoming M4 Zero Connect Box?
Solid info and straight to the point. Great content and thanks for what you do!
Best info, thanks. C1 just right for my XboxX
Thanks for the explanation of the different models. Do you know if these new LG OLEDs will support Dolby Vision with Filmmaker Mode? I think you mentioned a while ago that this feature was being worked on by the industry.
The 77" G3 recently got a 30% discount in my region which put it into my budget. Set it up two days ago and it's brilliant, I don't think I'm going to miss anything significant from the G4.
This should shake things up in the TV world in 2024😊
We are at G4 damn.. Feels like I bought the G1 65 on launch, yesterday
Still enjoying my C1! maybe il do an upgrade with the C5 next year.
Hey dude love your vids -the best for high en! ! just wondering if the new LG G4 83 inch is going to have the full 48 GB/s bandwidth?
Good. Nice to see the 83” G-series finally receive MLA tech.
Still rocking my B8 from 2018 with no burn-in. May upgrade this year. Waiting for Samsung and Sony 2024 lineups to decide.
Same, i will rock my B8 fore few more years. I only noticed that they keep updating youtube app to work slower and slower. I wish i dont have to start using my Playstation to use youtube app normally in the future(like i had to do on my previous LG tv)
@@lauril9043 use a streaming stick like Fire TV or Apple TV for UA-cam
I'm kinda skeptical when I see the same processor with a higher gen number next to it... that doesn't always mean it's any different or even better than the previous gen. I guess the same can be said for higher model numbers as well.
The 48" and 42" in the C series had lower performing displays than the 55+" options which you had mentioned in a video last year or maybe the year before. Perhaps only the brightness was affected. Can you discuss in an upcoming video if this is the case for 2024 models? I prefer the higher pixel density but hate to get a lower performing display than the 55" of the same series.
The site Flatpanelshd confirmed that the 42" and 48" C4 are brighter than last year's models
I have the c2 42 and I don't remember vincent saying that the quality of the panel was worse from the 55, just that some units will come with a evo panel and some not but he said the difference in quality isn't really anything important enough and recommended the 42 anyways
When you have review models, I am interested in seeing the differences in 1080p -> 4K upscaling between the C4/B4 and the G4/M4
Hi Vincent, what are your thoughts on Philips 908. I’ve been waiting for your review. It looks like it has the complete package, META panel, B&W sound and ambilight. I can’t decide between S90C or Philips 908 for gaming
Thanks for the info. Still on a 48 CX. Was waiting to see if there was MLA on the 42" C4 before upgrading. I guess my wallet is safe again this year, unless the competition can deliver something better.
Same scenario here for my PC. My 48 CX is still going strong. Might have to upgrade to an actual monitor this time since LG doesn't seem to want to give the "C" series any meaningful upgrades these past two years.
Same here too cx and 4090 gpu. Wish a 48inch G4 was coming
I have the 55” CX and quite happy with it. I just like watching Vincent and try and spot the joke.
I'm also interested in whether there is still gamma flickering
Everyone excited for 83” WOLEDs while I’m more excited for a 48” QD OLED.
Great info. Thanks for letting us know!
Nice
Waiting for the CES next week
Well, this is interesting, especially since I've finally given up waiting and bought a Sony A95l 77 inch and have absolutely no regrets. Sony is a huge jump from my c9 and G1 in terms of motion,colors , upscaling, and brightness.
But Lg looks like its coming out swinging. Got to love it . Ill wait till the 97 comes down in price and hopefully qd oled .
Love the video and thanks for the amazing work you are doing, Vincent.
Two TVs that I will consider to buy in 2024: LG G4 83" or Sony X95M 85". 100% time the usage is via a high-end PC so I'm curious to learn how the 2nd generation MLA panel may help with burn-in, and see if the warranty is also present in my country. If X95M 85" is close to G4 83" in picture quality, might as well go for that for peace of mind, though.
Up to now the 48" version of LG OLEDs weren't worth looking at due to reduced brightness and lacking full bandwidth ports, I have to wonder if the B4 is just getting a better processor or if they'll improve the panel along with it. I'd love to have the 48" model instead of 55" but thus far the 55" is always a dramatically superior product.
The G4 series sounds interesting. If LG can manage to make a 77" model that doesn't have horrible banding like my CX and if the alpha 11 has enough power to finally offer motion interpolation without too much artifacting, then the G4 might be my new TV once the price has come down a bit.
I think they already did that right? G3 MLA 77" doesnt have horrible banding. I know the 83" models did last year
You can never fix OLED motion. its inherently bad. Compared to a plasma, I cant stomach it.
@@552mustang
Actually...there is nothing wrong with "Oled Motion" at all, quite the opposite actually.
Oled simply shows the deficiency of low framerate content instead of masking it with "smearing" like many LCD panels.
As to Plasma, I never owned a Plasma TV, but from what I understand about the tech, it likely had lower sharpness, brightness and contrast thus masking low framerate deficiencies as well. Not sure what the panel response times on a Plasma were, so maybe that also "helped" blur out the jerkyness of content played at below 60Hz.
That is madly depressing, want a top end 42” dang it
X 2
Depressing that none of the manufacturers are filling this void.
It looks like most people want bigger tvs. I was on the market for a 50” and noticed that heigh tiers start mostly at 55”. (Now considering view distance I could have gone 65” but it would have been utterly over proportioned for the space itself! ) so is going to be more and more difficult to find high end small sized tvs
Excited about the 83” MLA. Also wondering if Sony will get the MLA panels now with the 83” MLA?
C4 sounds pretty underwhelming. I’ll continue on with my C1 and C2 TVs.
Wow, the 4 series will get updated for 4 years now ? This is enough to wait for these of you are on the market for a new TV
Can you say something about the Network connection bandwith?
Because I have C1 currently I think, an older model.
And there LG saved money on a 100Mb/s LAN port instead of 1GB.
Why does that matter?
Try to stream over your home network a 4K HDR Dolby Atmos movie with 80GB of size then you come over 100Mb/s and your movie stutters ;((((
And on sale portals under "Technical details" the LAN port speed is never mentioned ;(
It took me quite some time to find that out, I even replaced my Media Server because I thought the CPU could not decode it fast enough :))
Still no mla for c series? Whats the point updating then when you even have the cx. Really hope samsung does right this year. Really disappointing.
I guess just 144hz, not worth
C series has been mid-range since 2023. It's no longer a flagship. C series is the new B series.
That's why MLA is exclusive to flagship TV's like the G series and M series.
" Whats the point updating then when you even have the cx"
They want you to buy the G series not the C.
G or B ; I might go for 48 .
Is this a serious question? Why are you asking why a mid-tier TV isn't including equivalent features to their flagship series?
Very informative as always, thanks. Here's a quick Q that's been annoying me... I've gone through all menu's (and secret menu's), but I have yet to find a way to disable (or delete) the 'Modern Art' from the screen saver art gallery. (I don't mind having a screen saver option, but I'd like to be able to choose what photos are displayed, and not look at what I think are awful photos. Is there a way to disable / delete modern art? Even via the secret service menu? Oooo it's on an 83" C2 with latest 04.40.91 software. Thanks for the help.
I have a CX wondering which one to upgrade G4 or C4?
Staying with G3 55 thanks
Can you put a link for your glasses frame
Are they going to decrease the color depth or something else to get to 144? Doesn't HDMI 2.1 only support 4k 120?
As a C2 owner for gaming, I don't see a completing reason to buy a C4, 144hz is not a selling point.
Depends.. I do have The c2 hooked to my 4090 pc
And my 4090 is asking for The 144 hz panel 😂😂
@@ALM_Relaxeduhhh yeah get a 240 hz panel for your 4090 bud
@@ALM_Relaxedwaste of money man. I can understand if you go from 120 to 200-240. But from 120 to 144 it is no brain move bud. This year C4 is dead product no one wants it. Looks like good year for competitors.
@@GrandoSilverHmm yeah maybe you have a point there
Might have wait for a G4 to upgrade. Was debating an s95c or a95l but g4 looks sick
In the market for a 65 panel Jan to early March 2024. Do I go for a 2023 model now or wait for 2024 Tech?
really mad that the c4 is bad compared to the g4. i just want a 42" or 48" oled with mla. larger g3/g4's are getting it, smaller 27" are getting it, just not 42", makes no sense as its the perfect balance between gaming and media enjoyment
fantastic
When does the g4 come out
What happened to the announced 20” panel?
Would you recommend an oled for me if I get direct sunlight on my tv from an 70 degree angle, only when the sun is low and for 30-60 minutes at a time couple times a week? I would not remember nor want to check to close the blinds every day.
83 inch with MLA is what I was waiting for so this is great. 97 inch is probably too much for me but it's cool to see a size bump.
Now I just hope the 83 inch model price will go down a bit. The astronomical price difference between it and the 77 inch models atm is insane. Maybe the addition of a 97 inch model will finally do it?
I could really use 144hz but I was hoping for further brightness improvements. With a 4090 I'm pushing my CX on just about everything. Most games average around 140hz. I'm going to see what improvements qd oled has. I'd hate to give up dolby vision but it's getting less relevant as the panels improve, especially with Samsung partnering with nvidia for hdr 10+ gaming. Hopefully that takes off
As someone who games on both my C2 OLED at 120hz and my LG Ultragear at 240hz with a 4090, the difference between 120 FPS and 140 FPS really isn't noticeable.
I recommend getting an Ultragear monitor if you really want to experience higher FPS but at lower resolutions or less demanding games at 240hz. It's beautiful!
However, if you do purchase a monitor, wait for after CES. LG is coming out with a Dual Hz OLED monitors that will allow you to game at 4k 240hz and 1080p 480hz
DV really shouldn't be a factor on these high end TVs. As you've said yourself it barely makes a difference when high quality picture processing is available. Get the one that fits your needs best I'm sure you won't miss DV. PS5 still doesn't even support it 3+ years after launch
On what settings do you play? Is 4090 really THAT powerful?
I wouldn't get rid of the CX since its the best screen for gaming especially motion wise. You have 120hz BFI which just makes it next level.
@@constantingeorgiu268 I have a CX, and its luminance overshoot is horrendous. Worst black transitions ever.
Likely will be pickig up a B3 in the coming weeks. I'm a PC gamer so i only need the TV for movies and shows, and from what i can see the B3 delivers exactly what's needed.
I'm a little surprised no QD oled. M4 will be cool but I don't see it selling much outside USA
As long as Samsung boost size options at 85"+ and improve QD just a little I think Samsung and Sony will stay ahead.
Should you buy new? At the moment no a boost for gamers and a small boost in bigness and 2x cost at launch? I don't think with
Just bought a G3 and love it. But kind of sucks that they wont be supporting future versions of web os on it.
Well they need something to sell and an extra bullet point to add
Looks like a C3 will be the most reasonable OLED purchase this year
Yeah I'll stick with my C1 for now thanks 👋
Besides brightness, I can't see picture quality difference between a panel from 2020 and from last year 2023. Is the brightness race worth it? All the other upgrades just seem so useless which brings up the next question : When is it worth it to upgrade ?
I have a question, I have been considering buying an lg c2 or c3, but seeing this video showing the c3,b3 tvs as only having webos 23 while the newer c3 and b4 getting 5 years of software upgrades, does that mean the c2 and c3 tvs are locked to the same version with no updated?
Successor to sony xr processors coming anytime soon ?
No MLA on the C4 is a bummer, hopefully the C5 gets it next year
Not happening most likely.
C series stopped being flagship in 2023. It's now a mid-range.
C series is the new B series.
G series and M series are flagships.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M What are you talking about dude. The C series was never the flagship. The G series was the flagship.
@@PSYCHOV3N0MG series has always been the flagship. C series is the mid tier. B is the affordable tier.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M in the beginning LG G Series Was Flagsip, C Series Mid, and B Series Affordable, and A Series Entry. im pretty sure C5 or C6 will get MLA.
@@PSYCHOV3N0MBut the mid-range has shifted with MiniLEDs especially in the $800-1500 range for 65 inch TVs. TCL will follow up on the QM8 with something even better especially since Sony is almost beating them with 80 dimming zones and they can't be happy about that. Hisense's 85UX will receive a new model and will be reasonably priced at 65 inches. Sony will follow up with an updated X93L which should have more zones and better processing and come close to the X95L.
So the C4 and A80L are actually the TVs that are going to be strugging if they don't change them.
C range improvements again limited unless 144hz interests you.. Maybe 6:6 pull down is good for 24p 🤷🏻♂️.
Seems like the b range could be good value if prices are fair
What would you recommend for yhe best gaming tv for ps5? I want the best?😊
Hi Vincent please could you help me, I have the c2 and follow the most accurate settings, would I apply the same settings for a nature documentary (planet earth 2) or would those settings be a bit too movie like for a nature doc? Thank you!
Really tempted to upgrade from my C9 to the G4. Or should I wait for a QD-OLED from LG that may arrive in 2025?
Get discounted G3 instead as G4 is not a big improvement
Move on from WOLED. Keep up with the 2024 QD OLEDs from Sam and Sony.
Is there a headphone 🎧 jack output on LGG4?
My TV is connected that way. Vincent can you please confirm?
Can't wait for the Sony 2024 line-up.
Thanks Theo!
finally lg smartened up and will include a stand with the G series.
Also seems like - unfortunately - the C4 isnt really going to be much if any better than the C3.
What are you talking about they will be 144hz now. That's already a nice upgrade, well if you use it as a monitor.
I expected MLA to be a G4 exclusive, but I’m surprised that they’re reserving the new A11 processor.
@@CasepbX You're never seeing the difference between 120 and 144Hz.
@@CasepbX 120Hz to 144Hz is imperceptible and nearly useless as an "upgrade."
@@highdefnews175 Agreed, I thought for sure the C4 would get the new processor, but it seems LG is trying to push the C series down firmly into the mid-range category.
Lg going have give heavy discount on c4 its not going sell well no mla
Bro What do you recommend to buy LG 50ur80 or hisense A6H 4k 50 vidaa os who is the best TV in quality picture and colors and sound
I'd like an oled that doesn't get burn in.
We couldn't expect more, as the range is renewed every year. I don't regret my LG C3.
There's a real break between the C and G series, with a completely different chip...
Dynamic tone mapping so kinda like auto HDR for windows for games but for content? Sounds pretty nice
And here I am with my LG CX bought in December 2020 lol...I'm still very happy with it but I wonder if I'm missing out on much by not upgrading?
Asaide from brighhness i say not really, tv actuals feel like an upgrade after 5-6
Generation of them due how they drop feed
Us with every gen
Like you gain more the lomger you wait so maybe- till the g6 ?
You're not missing anything with the CX when not upgrading to the C4. Pretty much the same TV still.
Got a 65 C8 in my lounge and a 55 BX for gaming upstairs in my room. No problem with either and will only change when one breaks.
@@gsst6389 thanks that’s good advice
Looks like a S90C will be the most reasonable OLED purchase this year
Until Samsung admits defeat and starts supporting Dolby Vision, they remain a no-go for me.
@@MysteryMii Dolby Vision is not a reason for preference for people who think like me.
@MysteryMii never gonna happen dv is zero reason to get a TV
My C9 died just last week.It didn't even last 4 full years (1month short).It just suddenly turn off and only standby led works.Got Panasonic lz1000 now.Happy new year Vincent and folks!
You bought a C9 in 2021?
@@FrowningTaco sorry had to check it it was 02.2020.wich makes it 4 years almost
today all TVs are made to work for a maximum of 5 years
Black Friday 2022, my 65G2 costs €1650,- incl. cashback.
Black Friday 2023, my 65G3 costs €1850,- incl. cashback.
They both have a small pink tint on the left which is luckely not seen in most time of watching.
If they keep getting brighter I’m gonna have to wear shades.
And what’s wrong with that
Well I figured it was going to be just minor upgrades for the C4, a mistake not to add a MLA panel. At least the G4 comes with a stand.
MLA would make c series too expensive. Good reason of not using it. If you want MLA… bur money in G or M series.
@@haukionkannel They better improve their production capability then. They aint in Kansas anymore. The C is competing against superior QD OLEDs at a lower price.
If full field white doesn't have big improvements, I don't think it's worth upgrading yet.
OLED TVs of all kinds are already kind of at the limit of what they can do in this regard, it's time to look toward other technologies like fast improving miniLED and eventually microLED.
will these still support DTS?
2024 getting more interesting as I thought!
The thing with MLA for the G3 is I don’t feel like the extra brightness was worth the loss in picture quality. The 83’ looks so much better to me
How does MLA cause a loss of picture quality?
@@matthubert2912 Watch the video comparison between the MLA and Non MLA G3
@@matthubert2912 he be talkin outta his arse.
@@matthubert2912 sounds like they meant compared to a larger screen
@@matthubert2912 Worse blacks in ambient light.
I was about to buy S90C this week but realised CES was next week. I doubt its worth waiting for 2024 models? I already waited since not really seeing any good deals on black friday and had other priorities
When will we finally have 115"+ proper OLEDs :-(
Does anyone know if Sony oled turns back on after a manual panel refresh? Have a a80j77. Don’t want to turn it on early and mess it up. Thanks!
No 32" model? I've been hoping for one.
Still waiting for official acknowledgement and fix for the uniformity issues / dark vertical banding present on the larger lg panels
I have a 55 C2 the last year any noticeable upgrade was made in the C series. I’m sticking with it until 2025 and if the “C5” also ends up being a let down, I’ll just get a heavily discounted G4 by that point. C9 folks hold on to that gem of a TV y’all have, no need to upgrade this year as well :)
Why is only the C series (C3 and C4) available in 42"? We have a 43" Plasma and can't go with a larger set.
So the C4 only upgrade is the 144hz. Even if it's still going to be brighter, let's say 1000 nits, the S90C is already that bright. So basically the upcoming S90D will destroy the C4.
Especially if LG still refuses to lower their prices for the C series. They're way too expensive in comparison to their competition.
@@DennisSchmitz but they are holding people that want 42-43inch panel hostage.
Don't forget the arbitrary LG limitation of no WebOS upgrades for the C3 (23) vs the C4 (24-28).
@@DennisSchmitzLG was only able to keep this dominant position in OLED TVs because Samsung’s original RGB OLED plans didn’t work out. Samsung has always been capable of putting out more volume than LG but didn’t have a viable technology ready until QD OLED.
LG Display (not to be confused with LG Electronics) has been caught in a bad position where they’re struggling financially and their product is more expensive to make than QD OLED. LG Electronics only buys TV displays from LG Electronics, so they’re sort of stuck having to make due with what LG Display gives them.
Samsung is just a different animal in terms of R&D and production. QD OLED was SHOCKINGLY mature for its first generation. Most of its issues were Samsung-related and not hardware related.