The quote on the gravestone of James Honeyman-Scott reads: "Love is Everything - It is the Key to Life and it's influences are those that move the World" RIP James & Peter
Patti Murphy ....lucky woman!!!! I saw them twice in concert in81. It looks so much better in a small setting, though. Like i said, lucky.🤗🤓😎🕊 The original band fuckin rocked live. In the begining.
Wicked band! This version is beyond compare. The classic line-up firing on all cylinders. Bonus points for how high Pete Farndon's Hamer is in the mix too. KILLER TONE! 🤘❤🤘
That Malcolm Foster, no slouch himself, left the band after MC was sent packing, well, that speaks volumes, as his reason was basically that you can't get rid of a great drummer like Martin Chambers.
yes they were...I was a Junior & Senior in high school in '81 & watched this show every Friday night...I remember them doing this show...it was a little before the video explosion...the same year that MTV debuted in August.
Yeah. I've wanted to do a doc on them for years now. Someday, maybe. Well, I guess we learned not to shoot up in the tub, and not to snort more coke in an hour than most do in a lifetime. Well, at least we have their wonderful songs. R.I.P.
For clarification, yes they mimed playing to the album recording when they had to. That was, and still is, the policy on most TV appearances for bands. You either agreed or you weren't booked on the show.
Saw them in ‘81 at the Santa Monica Civic. Great sound. Crowd was shoulder to shoulder. These were the beginning days of the mahhhhhsh pits! And Uhmmm yeah… had my wallet stolen lol
The tune was released on three different dates in 1981 in three unique configurations, first as a standalone single in February, next, in March, as part of a five-song EP imaginatively titled Extended Play and then finally in August as part of their second album Pretenders II, the followup to their debut album Pretenders (hopefully the creative brain trust tasked with naming their records got nice bonuses for their creativity...) Met with OK-but-not-stellar reviews (compared to its long-playing predecessor) upon its release, the passage of time has been kind to Pretenders II and it is now considered as a must-have record from the post-punk/new wave era that bridged the end of the Seventies and the dawn of the Eighties. The record also marks the last recordings of the original lineup of Chrissie Hynde (guitar & vocals), James Honeyman-Scott (guitar), Pete Farndon (bass) and Martin Chambers (drums) - when their next single "Back on the Chain Gang" was released in September 1982 Honeyman-Scott was gone, having died of a cocaine overdose in June at the age of 25 and Farndon had been kicked out of the band due to his heroin addiction. He would OD in April of 1983 at the age of 30. Stay away from drugs, kids. No kidding around. (In a bit of weird irony, Andy Kaufman is seen here introducing the band and apologizing to them for "any inconvenience I may have caused them during my last introduction". His "last introduction" had turned into a rambling lecture about the danger of drugs - as the band stood awkwardly behind him, waiting to play - until the curtain was drawn closed and the show went to commercial. It was pure bizarro comedy that Kaufman was (in)famous for - earlier in the show he had professed to be a born-again Christian and had performed a duet with a female gospel singer he claimed was his fiance - but in light of Honeyman-Scott's & Fardon's narcotics-related deaths not too long after this performance it turned out to be a strange and weird irony.)
Unfortunately, Message Of Love (and Talk Of The Town) never got a single release in the USA. I would hope they would have been big hits. Extended Play was great - especially for those of us who adored their first album and were hungry for more..!
I know the drummer for Battles has his cymbal sky high because he said he tended to get lazy and rely on hitting it too much so he put it almost out of reach so he'd have to really want it to play it. Maybe it's a similar thing.
I saw them in 1981 in Sunrise, Florida in a musical theater that sat about 2000. Incredible show. James Honeyman Scott, who died the next year, had his plexiglass guitar which is a beauty. One of my favorite concerts to this day.
Fridays coincided with the worst seasons of SNL, right after the original cast left. It was better than SNL while it was on, and they tended to have better bands. The humor could get a little cheap sometimes, though. It really died because of the Nightline show delaying its live performance during the Iran hostage crisis, and it never recovered, so it was cancelled after just two years.
I vividly remember these episodes when Andy Kauffman went into his manic episodes and interrupted the Pretenders slot on this show. It was disturbing and a piss off because Pretenders fans tuned in to see them perform. Can you imagine what Chrisie and Martin and the families of Pete and James had to endure with the loss of these 2 brothers in such a short time? I know she was devistated and wasn't sure if she would ever rebound as the Pretenders again. Thank God, She did! Thank You Lottoman17 for posting this. Brings back Golden Memories. Chrisie, I still love you! Paz Y Amor
They're so good. Even though Pete's outta tune. lol Luckily his upper register strings aren't as out as his E and A, and the finale of the song(which is one of the most triumphant endings of any rock songs, ever, period) sounds as wonderful as ever. RIP Pete and Jimmy.
@@TimEric4d3d3d3 Actually I checked and moreover read a portion fo Hynde's tell all wherein she intimated she had an affair with Belushi. Apparently around the time of this show Hynde and Belushi went and saw Timothy Leary? the acid guru and ex Harvard professor. I believe this show was in October of 1981 and Belushi was dead approximately 5 months later on March 5, 1982. Someone writing a book about the band noted that JHS was regaling his friends with tales about Belushi's legendary drug consumption and his dying in his sleep. Ironically and sadly, JHS was describing his own imminent death as he would die in his sleep just 3 months after Belushi.
you know she has talked a lot over the years about how Pete Farndon wasn't cutting it as a bass player, but I've never heard him play anything that I would consider bad. He sounds fine here and looks great.
His E string sounds pretty outta tune, particularly in the first 2 verses and a definite clam in the the intro. A headphones listen of this live cut has him easily as the weak link here imho
She was exes with him and wanted him gone, and the poor bastard probably thought he was through outside the band. He was a serviceable but not especially good bassist. Chambers is a fine drummer but not irreplaceable- Keltner did fine. James Honeyman Scott was the key employee, and the band name has had no value except for "Chrissie's backing band" since then. She has been effectively a solo act since then and she is the only one who doesn't know-or pretends not to. There is no denying that she is a great singer-songwriter, and that she (for all that animal rights crap) is also a ruthless individual capable of some pretty rotten behavior. I would never let myself get too close to her personally or professionally (not that that's likely anyway). I got a kick out of her kvetching with that stupid Sandra Bernhard about " I'm a prize, if no one wants me, fuck them". No Chrissie, the problem is that you are not a prize. Fifty years of vegan has left your face brittle and sunken-in and your rep precedes you. You look old. You have busted the balls of every man you have been with and now your chickens are coming home to roost.
Wamgo C ...ten years ago, i may have disagreed with you. Now, i can say you are 100 on the money with that comment. Chrissie said herself she wasnt the kindest person to anyone, and that Pete for his tough persona, was kind of sensitive, at least with her. I guess it was you always hurt the ones you love alot of the time. So i read this comment and saw an interview vid (vh1) where Chrissie admits being a bitch, puts on a tough talk, buther face!!! If she is haunted by his ghost, she asked for it...poor guy. A heroin addict, yes, i know...but you dont kick your man whenhe is down. And you certainly dont drag your new beau on the same stage with your band that includes old beau...speaking of Ray Davies here. I heard that Jimmy Scott did not get along with the kink. Hmmm. I heard that Farndons wife said he was the sweetest most lovable guy...and i believe it. Chrissie for all her talent was a real hard one. People like that usually do wind up "alone". RIP TO BOTH PETE FARNDON N JAMES HONEYMANN SCOTT...OH WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN🤗😎😙
@ Markus : Whilst Pete was not the best bassist, he was competent and the official story is that he was sacked because his drug abuse made him very difficult to work with. James Honeyman-Scott reportedly told Hynde, "It's him or me". Ironically JH-S died of cocaine overdose two days after Farndon got the boot. Pete carried on another ten months before dying of a heroin overdose.
Killer vid,the late Andy Kaufman introducing the original pretenders a year before the death of guitatrist James "honeyman"Scott two years before the death of bassist Pete Farndon.
"With sincere apologies for any inconvenience I may have caused them during my last introduction, here are The Pretenders!" yet Andy is the greatest Pretender of them all!! He blew song #1 (The Adultress) intro but NOW he is "Mr. TV" for song 2. .The Adultress with Andy bound & gagged backstage: ua-cam.com/video/Hmr7KmEhsvA/v-deo.html
That very guitar was in the Hard Rock Cafe in Cancun. I sat right under it. It was a Jones model. Keith Richards was another guy who used them. Newman-Jones was his guitar tech at one point then started building them.
I was there. Won tickets from KLOS radio in Los Angeles 🎉
95.5 ALL DAY !
That's badass.
It's a felony that this song is NEVER played on the radio.
They had the sound and the look. Hard to believe it was gone so quickly.
The quote on the gravestone of James Honeyman-Scott reads: "Love is Everything - It is the Key to Life and it's influences are those that move the World" RIP James & Peter
Matt Kerwin - Music For All Where is he buried?
@@MsAppassionata hereford
@@dommccaffry3802 Thank you.
How True,🧷
Shalom Much love ❤️ Kingdom Blessings to the tightest band in rock and roll
I was there. I skipped work and took my friend and my little brother. It was awesome!
Patti Murphy you were a cool older sister..
Patti Murphy ....lucky woman!!!! I saw them twice in concert in81. It looks so much better in a small setting, though. Like i said, lucky.🤗🤓😎🕊 The original band fuckin rocked live. In the begining.
Patti Murphy Where was Friday’s filmed? NYC or L.A.? Used to watch it all the time!
@@Johonnac It was taped in Los Angeles!
Patti: Please tell us more about the performance!
Wicked band! This version is beyond compare. The classic line-up firing on all cylinders. Bonus points for how high Pete Farndon's Hamer is in the mix too. KILLER TONE! 🤘❤🤘
growling on that bass!!
watch the drummer in any band and you get a pretty good idea of how good that band is gonna be. The Pretenders were right up there. Quality band
That Malcolm Foster, no slouch himself, left the band after MC was sent packing, well, that speaks volumes, as his reason was basically that you can't get rid of a great drummer like Martin Chambers.
yes they were...I was a Junior & Senior in high school in '81 & watched this show every Friday night...I remember them doing this show...it was a little before the video explosion...the same year that MTV debuted in August.
Chrissie actually fired Martin for not being good enough on drums then hired him back! Presumably realizing her mistake. Great drummer
@@diceyending4622 Drives every song.
Chrissie was a tool for firing Chambers @@diceyending4622
41 Years ago, boy do I feel old...
R.I.P. James Honeyman- Scott & Peter Farndon.
Yeah. I've wanted to do a doc on them for years now. Someday, maybe.
Well, I guess we learned not to shoot up in the tub, and not to snort more coke in an hour than most do in a lifetime. Well, at least we have their wonderful songs. R.I.P.
No lip sync'ing for this gal and her crew - freakin' awesome!
For clarification, yes they mimed playing to the album recording when they had to. That was, and still is, the policy on most TV appearances for bands. You either agreed or you weren't booked on the show.
@@klocke-hx3xlNot here, though. And the sound system sucks. Very muddy.
They were really considered bad asses in their day. Great band.
Saw them in ‘81 at the Santa Monica Civic. Great sound. Crowd was shoulder to shoulder. These were the beginning days of the mahhhhhsh pits! And Uhmmm yeah… had my wallet stolen lol
Any relation to the Bonnono's from CT? ❤
Insane that this was 40 years ago; I loved the Pretenders the very first second I heard them........
Probably one of the coolest-looking bands ever.
Driving ave 12 to cw, water polo practice w/old school.
Byers good, Sullivan good , giffen good.
Pretenders on cassette
No doubt!!
It's hard to believe that 50% of such a great band would be dead due to drugs. They were so talented.
Drugs are good.
Kind of easy to believe.
Well they played the right gig then. Stories about tables if coke everywhere. Entire cast just f-ed up. Great show though!!
Wow--at this point in their tenure--they were just...IT!! Musicality, talent, presence, attitude...they really had it going on.
Yes - as much as I've loved a lot of other Pretenders music, those first two albums and the singles from that era were perfection, on all levels.
Friday’s had great musical guests. Thanks for posting these
The tune was released on three different dates in 1981 in three unique configurations, first as a standalone single in February, next, in March, as part of a five-song EP imaginatively titled Extended Play and then finally in August as part of their second album Pretenders II, the followup to their debut album Pretenders (hopefully the creative brain trust tasked with naming their records got nice bonuses for their creativity...) Met with OK-but-not-stellar reviews (compared to its long-playing predecessor) upon its release, the passage of time has been kind to Pretenders II and it is now considered as a must-have record from the post-punk/new wave era that bridged the end of the Seventies and the dawn of the Eighties. The record also marks the last recordings of the original lineup of Chrissie Hynde (guitar & vocals), James Honeyman-Scott (guitar), Pete Farndon (bass) and Martin Chambers (drums) - when their next single "Back on the Chain Gang" was released in September 1982 Honeyman-Scott was gone, having died of a cocaine overdose in June at the age of 25 and Farndon had been kicked out of the band due to his heroin addiction. He would OD in April of 1983 at the age of 30. Stay away from drugs, kids. No kidding around. (In a bit of weird irony, Andy Kaufman is seen here introducing the band and apologizing to them for "any inconvenience I may have caused them during my last introduction". His "last introduction" had turned into a rambling lecture about the danger of drugs - as the band stood awkwardly behind him, waiting to play - until the curtain was drawn closed and the show went to commercial. It was pure bizarro comedy that Kaufman was (in)famous for - earlier in the show he had professed to be a born-again Christian and had performed a duet with a female gospel singer he claimed was his fiance - but in light of Honeyman-Scott's & Fardon's narcotics-related deaths not too long after this performance it turned out to be a strange and weird irony.)
Unfortunately, Message Of Love (and Talk Of The Town) never got a single release in the USA. I would hope they would have been big hits. Extended Play was great - especially for those of us who adored their first album and were hungry for more..!
You said it
Martin Chambers sky high cymbal kills me lol. Has to be a story there. 🥁
😂 Yeah what was that all about lol.
I know the drummer for Battles has his cymbal sky high because he said he tended to get lazy and rely on hitting it too much so he put it almost out of reach so he'd have to really want it to play it. Maybe it's a similar thing.
Maybe he was feeling experimental that day.
Love this song and this live version is superb.
Her voice was great on this one.
One of the greatest female voices in rock
OMG! I didn’t know that Peter North played bass for the Pretenders😜. Anyway, Peter Farndon and James H. Scott were immensely talented and are missed
🤣🤣
Forgettabout it❤
I was there for the taping of this. It was a powerful experience. So inspiring to the young musician I was at the time. 🎉 ~ JJ Holiday
I saw them in 1981 in Sunrise, Florida in a musical theater that sat about 2000. Incredible show. James Honeyman Scott, who died the next year, had his plexiglass guitar which is a beauty. One of my favorite concerts to this day.
For this clip alone I'd say Fridays was a better show than SNL.
Fridays coincided with the worst seasons of SNL, right after the original cast left. It was better than SNL while it was on, and they tended to have better bands. The humor could get a little cheap sometimes, though. It really died because of the Nightline show delaying its live performance during the Iran hostage crisis, and it never recovered, so it was cancelled after just two years.
I saw this Fridays episode live when I was a teenager
I was two months short of teenager and watching right with you!
Ditto.
Me too. Senior year of high school.
Can't complain about the audio quality for a live performance from this era, very good!
One-of-a-kind, badass band.
I saw this lineup in 81' They were fantastic.
I vividly remember these episodes when Andy Kauffman went into his manic episodes and interrupted the Pretenders slot
on this show. It was disturbing and a piss off because Pretenders fans tuned in to see them perform. Can you imagine what Chrisie and Martin and the families of Pete and James had to endure with the loss of these 2 brothers in such a short time?
I know she was devistated and wasn't sure if she would ever rebound as the Pretenders again. Thank God, She did!
Thank You Lottoman17 for posting this. Brings back Golden Memories. Chrisie, I still love you! Paz Y Amor
One awesome and severely underrated song and performance. Legend.
Why use his ugly face as your avatar
What a great band
They were so tight and sounded very close to the record when playing live.
I saw this performance on tv it was awesome saw them once in philly with the original lineup they were excellent james gone too soon rip
BEAUTIFUL QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such passionate vocals! Love it!
Jimmy was so good, amazing indeed. What a bloody lost.
James
@@averyadrian1534 Jeez dude - everybody called him Jimmy.
Even as far back as 1981 folks had forgotten
just how good good good Brigette Bardot really was (!)
They're so good. Even though Pete's outta tune. lol
Luckily his upper register strings aren't as out as his E and A, and the finale of the song(which is one of the most triumphant endings of any rock songs, ever, period) sounds as wonderful as ever.
RIP Pete and Jimmy.
Thank you. I was like, “am i deaf, or is pete really out of tune... “ yikes
So outta tune
Amazing performance.
Andy knew James and Pete were hittin it hard. He was tryin to save their lives, I think.
That may be true, hadn't Belushi, a friend of the band, died at this point from an overdose?
@@andrewowens-russell6796 1 year later Belushi died
@@TimEric4d3d3d3 Actually I checked and moreover read a portion fo Hynde's tell all wherein she intimated she had an affair with Belushi. Apparently around the time of this show Hynde and Belushi went and saw Timothy Leary? the acid guru and ex Harvard professor. I believe this show was in October of 1981 and Belushi was dead approximately 5 months later on March 5, 1982. Someone writing a book about the band noted that JHS was regaling his friends with tales about Belushi's legendary drug consumption and his dying in his sleep. Ironically and sadly, JHS was describing his own imminent death as he would die in his sleep just 3 months after Belushi.
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Awesome performance even if Pete's E and A strings sounds quite sharp.
My name is Larry I love pretenders there will never be a person to re.place James honey Scott the best I saw in 1980
I remember watching the show fridays when they appeared on there
Awesome!
this is so cool i love it it's perfect
you know she has talked a lot over the years about how Pete Farndon wasn't cutting it as a bass player, but I've never heard him play anything that I would consider bad. He sounds fine here and looks great.
His E string sounds pretty outta tune, particularly in the first 2 verses and a definite clam in the the intro. A headphones listen of this live cut has him easily as the weak link here imho
She was exes with him and wanted him gone, and the poor bastard probably thought he was through outside the band. He was a serviceable but not especially good bassist. Chambers is a fine drummer but not irreplaceable- Keltner did fine. James Honeyman Scott was the key employee, and the band name has had no value except for "Chrissie's backing band" since then. She has been effectively a solo act since then and she is the only one who doesn't know-or pretends not to.
There is no denying that she is a great singer-songwriter, and that she (for all that animal rights crap) is also a ruthless individual capable of some pretty rotten behavior. I would never let myself get too close to her personally or professionally (not that that's likely anyway).
I got a kick out of her kvetching with that stupid Sandra Bernhard about " I'm a prize, if no one wants me, fuck them". No Chrissie, the problem is that you are not a prize. Fifty years of vegan has left your face brittle and sunken-in and your rep precedes you. You look old. You have busted the balls of every man you have been with and now your chickens are coming home to roost.
Markus He was a very good bassist. He was booted due to his heroin use and not his playing ability.
Wamgo C ...ten years ago, i may have disagreed with you. Now, i can say you are 100 on the money with that comment. Chrissie said herself she wasnt the kindest person to anyone, and that Pete for his tough persona, was kind of sensitive, at least with her. I guess it was you always hurt the ones you love alot of the time. So i read this comment and saw an interview vid (vh1) where Chrissie admits being a bitch, puts on a tough talk, buther face!!! If she is haunted by his ghost, she asked for it...poor guy. A heroin addict, yes, i know...but you dont kick your man whenhe is down. And you certainly dont drag your new beau on the same stage with your band that includes old beau...speaking of Ray Davies here. I heard that Jimmy Scott did not get along with the kink. Hmmm. I heard that Farndons wife said he was the sweetest most lovable guy...and i believe it. Chrissie for all her talent was a real hard one. People like that usually do wind up "alone". RIP TO BOTH PETE FARNDON N JAMES HONEYMANN SCOTT...OH WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN🤗😎😙
@ Markus
:
Whilst Pete was not the best bassist, he was competent and the official story is that he was sacked because his drug abuse made him very difficult to work with. James Honeyman-Scott reportedly told Hynde, "It's him or me". Ironically JH-S died of cocaine overdose two days after Farndon got the boot. Pete carried on another ten months before dying of a heroin overdose.
Pete's looking a little like the Karate Kid in this one!
He wore that outfit a lot on tour.
Before there even was a Karate Kid :)
Man…. That’s a good drum beat !
That 80's, when a band was a band!
Awesome 👍😎
Killer vid,the late Andy Kaufman introducing the original pretenders a year before the death of guitatrist James "honeyman"Scott two years before the death of bassist Pete Farndon.
Terrific. Thanks for posting this video.
look at thatfuckinsweet HAMER bass
They were great back in the day. It's too bad James,Honeyman Scott. Incredible guitar player
Man, I would have loved to see where their song writing was going on a 3rd album.
The best of their time
so good..
Air date September 18, 1981
Awesome. Means I was in high school for about 3 weeks. Great days
This is awesome the Pretenders in the beginning whatever happened to that show Fridays it just disappeared
JHS was the key man...so sad...what could have been...anyway the very best Pretenders lineup...no doubts...
JHS and PF r.i.p.
The day I became a Pretenders fan!
Fridays was waaay better than SatNiteLive back then! Better music too!
Musically yes, but overall SNL was better.
Fucking phenomenal
Good 😊😁☺️🙂😘😚
CAN WE GET SOME LIVE STUFF ON VINYL PLEASE...THIS IS NASTY!!!!!!
DAMN NEAR BETTER THAN THE STUDIO VERSION!!!!!!!
Epic......
"With sincere apologies for any inconvenience I may have caused them during my last introduction, here are The Pretenders!" yet Andy is the greatest Pretender of them all!! He blew song #1 (The Adultress) intro but NOW he is "Mr. TV" for song 2. .The Adultress with Andy bound & gagged backstage: ua-cam.com/video/Hmr7KmEhsvA/v-deo.html
This is the REAL deal. No Autotune, back-up singers, or annoying dancers here, baby!
Sounds pretty much like the studio version, which is a good thing. Shows that they didn't use too much "studio sweetening".
GET’EM ANDY !
oohhh its Good Good Good!
Such as waste that two great musicians decided that Heroin was more important than music and life.
ERIC F it was coke that got Jimmy
@Dave State-61 he should be, but unfortunately he is hanging with worms mate and that's all
Well, heroin and coke. Still, they were kinda fools.
Pete was hardcore heroin user here. Covered the scars with an armband
Anyone know what guitar he was playing? Erlewine? Ted Newman Jones?
I love the Pretenders, and the original line up was so amazing and had such a fantastic image, but that bass is so out of tune. It’s very distracting.
Sadly, the bass player, Pete Farndon, and the guitarist, James Honeyman-Scott would die of drug OD's within a year of this taping.
holy shit channel 3 phx az i was 14 and saw this when it aired
Great band! Remember this the night it broadcast. God, Pete is SO out of tune!!!
What in the hell was Martin Chambers wearing?
Without James and Pete, the Pretenders ceased to be the Pretenders.
I think Pete stole some of the spotlight from Chrissie...u can't take your eyes off him.
JHS playing a Newman
GIVE THE DRUMMER SOME..... INDEED U GET A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF HOW GOOD A GROUP IS.
Chrissie is wearing a puffy shirt.
Lol😆
Jerry Seinfeld's inspiration
Makes me minda sad jimmy and pete
Benny Hill salute at 4:00
Anyone know what kind of guitar James is playing? Zemaitis ?
NO
I had the same question but it isn’t a Zemaitis
Is her voice running through a chorus pedal or something?
I noticed that too. On the original there's chorus, so, I'm sure that's what she did live.
Pete's bass is out of tune
James profile is similar to Eric Clapton’s - that small chin
Fridays had better music for sure. This is when the pretenders were at their best before drugs took over
FORGET LIP SYNCING.
What the hell is jhs playing? A hamer ?
I think its a Ted Newman-Jones custom build or maybe Erlewine Custom build. Not a Hamer.
That very guitar was in the Hard Rock Cafe in Cancun. I sat right under it. It was a Jones model. Keith Richards was another guy who used them. Newman-Jones was his guitar tech at one point then started building them.
Andy Madsen on drums. 😅😅😅😅
Is it me or is the bass slightly out of time
Yeah i noticed, its high and it’s bothering me.
@@Nick-ne4ln Tuned a little off. I think someone misses a chord at the intro. JHS?
Pete was starting to get sloppy because of the heroin. The armband hid the tracks.
Back when bands actually played and sang on stage! Notice someone is slightly out of tune.
host looks like howdy doody
Loved Pete but his playing was sloppy here