National Assembly sitting I MK files urgent papers at ConCourt to interdict Friday's 1st sitting
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- The uMkhonto weSizwe Party has filed urgent papers at the Constitutional Court to interdict Friday's first sitting of the National Assembly.
This comes after the party's letter of demand to the Secretary to Parliament, and Chief Justice Raymond Zondo, asking them not to convene the first sitting, did not yield results.
The party seeks a hearing in the apex court before Friday.
Let's stay with this and unpack this for you now with SABC News Reporter, Canny Maphanga and Legal Analyst & Donda Attorneys MD, Melusi Xulu
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Why file in the Cape Town High Court? Because his sponsor can find a favorable judge. South Africa needs to wake up and realize what's happening.
Judge Hlope has since been impeached...
Khumalo looking for apartheid era judges in WC
Is it clear who is bankrolling Khumalo's fruitless attempts to highjack MK and why?
@@biko8229 who?
You people are brainless..
Its incredible to read what you write.@@biko8229
I believe that 46 (1) applies much on the establishment of a parliament (for the first time after elections). It argues that without more than 350 parliament cannnot be constituted and cannot begin its business. However, 53(1) applies on cases where the parliament has already been constituted and has begun its work. In this light, the Mk party has a valid reason to challenge the opening of the parliament without the required number of more than 350 MPs. If the parliament had already been opened and Mps sworn in, evoking section 46(1) will be futile.
Presstitutes are deliberately misreading the constitution
I believe you have Interpretated this section correct
I also understand this section as you explain it🤝
A quorum (134) comes after the composition of the National Assembly (min350 & max400), not the other way around. This is as simple as differentiating between a night and a day. Sometimes people turn to be fools at all cost, just to push a certain narrative and propaganda. It would the interesting to see how the apex court will seek to misinterpret the same constitution it claim to safeguard, just to favor the sitting of the NA, as JC Zondo alluded to media.
u a very rite
350 for swearing of MPs at the begining
1/3 for normal sittings during the period of years of running the parliament
I really don’t understand section 53(1), it talks about voting for the bill or amendment to a bill.
Not the vote of a speaker, deputy speaker or the president.
Please make me understand the section 😢😢😢
Very true
You can't be member of the parliament before swearing in, so people interpret the constitution based on their feelings 😂 and hate of MK.
They have been bringing their own puppets who have an agenda... Melusi has schooled these bunch of puppets
Irresponsible leadership is now displayed at its highest level.
Indeed very crazy
We are a constitutional democracywe dont use war we use courts
Why are MK raised issues not attended to? Do they not have rights to raise those issues and get them resolved?
Only to destabilize
Are they aware that this isn't a chess game , there's a country to be run😢
Ask IEC if they know that vote rigging is a serious offense that can cause a civil war
Country to be run with fake IEC vote results
Exactly my concern my brother
To run a country one must play chess
Everything to court in South Africa , I wish I was a lawyer , Eish lot of money there 😅
The iec took zuma to court and said they want clarity with the law, now zuma is doing the same. Caman let's be fair. Zuma has rhe right as well
YS he has evey right to go to court but zuma is not looking for clearity but wants to stop the na and have a revote not clarity but they will get it anyways..
Well said 👌🏾
And must accept the outcome of the Court as well including his memebrz
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂you are right😂😂Zuma also wants clarity
@@sahiphopNETWORK yes because he believes the votes were rigged. why is the IEC so determined to declare the elections free when there is so much dissatisfaction about the process?
Unbiased explanation from Melusi the guest. Well done.
This guy is right. The national assembly cannot be constituted without the 350 members
Ooh yeah cos they can’t wait for continuation of corruption in this country oppressing people even more than before and they want to make the most of it to destroy the country
You see the crowd of MK party we want our votes back from the ANC and IEC
Thank you Leader Melusi you are clear and fair
only irresponsible citizens don't understand why MK party is fighting IEC's vote results. There is countless evidence of vote rigging which is a very very serious matter to attend to ASAP.
No vote were rigged those cry babies had abnormally over expectations to win election forgetting that they've raised up the grass yesterday but expect to overtake organisation who mostly more than ten years in the race...I wonder where is their logical thinking...or I just forget that all of them their minds depend to uBaba without uBaba they can't think for themselves...
True!
But MK put out statment that they will not be attending so obviously the flights and accommodations etc would be canceled for them to save unnecessary spending. Can we please just get on with trying to take first steps to fix the mess south africa is in. We cant be held hostage as we have been with bad policies or held up with ego arguments when the party DECLINED to attend ! Lets get on with fixing RSA !
They didnt go to courts for flights and accommodation.English says they are interdicting a sitting because of the pending IEC matters.You must do your matric and stop hanging out on English platforms without proper understanding of English
Clearly ppl expect government to continue with MK bookings for them to have a circus vacation in Cape Town. Bookings were for ppl attending Parliament opening.
Did MK put an official letter or it was jys rumors from the media
Which books because there is yet to be a verdict which would have a clear indication for Friday's booking.
How to do so or by compromising again?
Viva MK vivaaa ♥️ we want our votes from the ANC
you should consider stealing it like how the Zuma stole billions when he was president
They are doing all cowards a favor for standing for the truth. We want clarity on this matter and the constitutional court is the best place to clarify this matters. IEC was rushing everything and ignored objections. Let's allow the democratic processes to unfold. They are doing it peacefully and democratically what's your problem?
What matter?
Concourt will go against JZuma as always, we all know that Zondo will tell his friends judges to come to an outcome that is against msholozi.
JZuma knows he will nt win but he is doing this to expose the captured Judiciary.
@@MusehanaH Where have you been? Grab yourself a lekker cup of coffee and watch latest news to catch up...
ua-cam.com/video/oqK_ORlniwA/v-deo.htmlsi=45FRhOeaH3J-hVpF
Even our black journalists are covering the IEC corruption... Quickly closing off the legal expert and changing the topic once He started questioning what happened???
Karma.
When Zuma was president such things were covered.
Aniyikeni maan
The MK is asking a very critical question. There’s a tendency in this country of undermining other people’s rights.
Ironically, Zuma himself is guilty of this...
He's responsible for billions lost through state capture...
Yet his brain dead supporters don't care
Yeah happens to coloured people everyday
😢@@Melk0928
And we need to stop it🚮
People of South Africa, let's stop being hypocrites, why do we have to surpress mk when they use constitutional avenue to exhaust their concerns. I mean you can hate the man but that doesn't mean his right should be taken away. The law has no feelings and emotions
So we should allow the fool to hold us hostage, there's a country to be run
We support MK like it or not
We wants our votes from IEC
IEC must solve the problem of vote rigging first before they declare elections free and fair
You crazy elections were free , fair democracy has privale thugs , criminals will never destroy are democracy
What vote rigging? Where is you evidence?
The IEC pronounced within the 7 days as per their mandate.
Being 'early' means nothing, the results can be challenged within a set time limit.
@@MusehanaH there's an evidence they have a proof.
@@user-cv4ie7ji2hthat's what they are saying, no one has seen the proof.....so MK claims they have won the elections?
The interviewers always change the direction when IEC credibility is questioned
I thought I was the only one seeing this
If this constitution is the best why the majority of its people so extremely poor.Thanks you clever blacks
It's called overpopulation.
Your parents shat out 5 kids whilst only being able to afford 1
It's because of corrupt people like Zuma who do not think about the poor people but by themselves and their sons and daughters
Agree
But Zuma as president never changed that. Thank you to the stupid blacks
"clever blacks" why are we shaming educated black people? embarassing
I hope this Melusi guy won't be banned from your studios . I have been following all your channels and so called legal political analysts they just say what they want you to hear. Just feeding you with propanga and lies. This man is touching key issues and viewing all angles of sections without bias or making it obvious . The Jabulani issue he nailed legal he might have something to stand but political zero. Politics is a game of numbers period
Money n the power.
The ConCourt may not be to hear the urgent application on an issue of constitutional significance!!! Why is it there for then? They exist to hear such cases!
This is the most urgent application, it's about the running of the country.
The other parties showing that they only worried about being in parliament
To serve us that is excellent
350 is for the beginning of swearing
1/3 will continue to apply after ,when the parliament is working and sitting for debates.
They should have it on Robben Island
The highcourt is not binded to hear this case before Friday ,Chief Justice Zondo knows his right and will not allow the court to rule on this before Friday.
The application is before the Constitutional Court and not High Court.
MK is busy with courts while partys are doing coalition😮😮 why diddnt Zuma meet up with Hlabisa he is busy with courts while we are loosing KZN to these people
You mean Mk continue with coalition even if The voting was wrong?
Like it or not Zuma knows what he is doing
Zuma got 2 third at kzn you think he must sit down
No i want mk to rule kzn but now forces are playing against mk so lets look foward to 2026 elections cos akusizi lutho kuzobambezela intuthuko njengokukhishwa kwemisebenzi
Sabc presenters always have their masters' back, nxaah
😂😂😂 you guys are angry he's taking it to court and not promoting violence😮 so if he's not Happy he must keep quiet 😮
350-400 talk about the total number of Members that must be in parliament. It doesn’t address the quorum. The 1/3 is the one that does and says the sitting may go ahead with the business of parliament and that is voting for the Speaker and President.
The main issue is, are Members MPs after elections or on being sworn by CJ.
This is what the Constitutional Court has to clarify. In MP on election, this would imply the President who is on the list is an MP.
On the righing, MK has not put a case in the Electoral Court. The Court can deal with that, has to dismiss it.
I think they are MPs elect, and only MPs on being sworn as MPs.
This we can learn from US, when 21 Nov, the winning President is President elect, and President from 20 January.
All these so called journalists are missing the point!!!😂
The answer to that very important question is the one that will tell us whether the sitting can continue on Friday or not, with the absence of MK party with their 50+ seats not attending. For that reason, the answer is necessary before Friday, however MK knew that within 14 days after the elections, the sitting must happen so their application on the basis of 'URGENCY' is questionable. They are playing games, maybe its the famous 'CHESS' tricks.
First time to hear that angle of the composition of the NA.....interesting
You see the crowd many people support MK party all Provinces you will find MK party people talked they want MK lead this country
When Zuma was being imprisoned without a trial. The SABC never showed the public section 35 of the Constitution, they never read out the Bill of Rights which showed how the ConCourt undermine Zuma's Constitutional Rights.
We want the internet Aly corut.
Gupta brothers are they also present
To those who rush to comment section let gather here and take notes
Jabulani is mad something wrong on his head
Imali yabantu aseyidlile bakithi kumele enze njani bemcindezela
Akazibulale asimfuni think ma MK amahle
Xhosa nostra
Can this happen in a country?
They have no plans for National but Provincial
Limpopo near zimbambwe 😅😅😅
There is a thin line between courage and foolishness, jabulani khumalo
Sober analyst!
I don’t think our reporters can see or they‘re being wishful ignorant of what the angle the MK is going with here!!🤔
Ya ! You! Ya!😂😂😂😂😂😂 What happened to Juju? Hahahahahhahahaha.You running to MK now?....YA you!😂
They are captured your will remember that SABC reporters were not interviewing and covering MK events.
@@sasha8664 hey Alex!,Iam with the EFF all the way Sasha but ofcause I support all black political parties with a Pan Africanist agenda!,i even support the ANC without Cyril!!,are you happy for black South Africans?? because it looks like we are getting our land back!
@@sibonisocharles5369 true!,the way they’re reporting is really not fair!
So this is the guy advising the MK....
😂😂😂
Legal Analyst didnt knoe how not not to lie 😂 blatantly answering questions 🙆🏾♀️
Going all out. 😆😆
One day we will thank President Zuma and MK party for testing all this laws. Fellow South Africans, let's be patient and allow all processes to unfold. When you feel cheated you feel cheated and you have a right to seek clarity and relief.
...then why did the MK postpone their announcement of the evidence that they claim they have? The country should not be held hostage to Zuma's tantrums and insecurities
@@MusehanaHYou obviously do not understand the logistics involved in gathering such huge volumes of evidence. Cowards like you can relax while the real patriots of this country fight for fairness and freedom against corruption.
@@MusehanaH Gathering huge volumes of evidence takes time, simple common sense.
@@MusehanaHEvidence must be produced in court
@@MusehanaHso when you have evidence you go around producing it everywhere anywhere or in a court of law
This analyst got it wrong
You cannot be a member of national assembly if you have not sworn in to be a such a member
What is going to happen on Friday is a sworn of nominees to be members then national assembly can assemble
This MK party is becoming a nuisance
MK bots working hard here 😂
waze wagqoka kambi canny
Uraa against JZ MK
Court after, country is busy now for rulling and get things started please, service delivery first please ,court aside and later
they is no law on south Africa!!!
Is Anyone thinking if the Army Generals are Observing all these Shenanigans????
Sorry mk let's accept number 1 and 2 to control the country let's give them support
Think you are more than enough to do your supporting game
This MK party is coming with circus. Let's do things as adults
They are doing all cowards a favor for standing for the truth. We want clarity on this matter and the constitutional court is the best place to clarify this matters. IEC was rushing everything and ignored objections. Let's allow the democratic processes to unfold
They want to destroy are country
adults go to courts
@@sifisodube4686 This country is already destroyed because of silent cowards. We want to get to the bottom of this. MK is taking the right stand on this issue and they are doing it peacefully and democratically.
Courts are not for adults? But Ramaphosa has been running to courts at every chance and you thought it was funny
...the issue of 350-400 is moot. The law states that the NA must decide on the number. The NA decided on 400... The lEC works on that number based on the law.
Quorum; the Constitution says 1/3 (134 MPs).
There will be a quorum. South Africa will have a new President on Friday. Period!!!....
MK will implode in two years and Zuma will not be compos mentis in three to five years. Age is catching up...
Yes there will be a quorum only for the election of the Speaker, Deputy and president. But from there the national assembly will not be able to work without the 350 or more members.
Don't fool yourself.
Zuma will be President
That part of section its useless, no major decisions will be taken without Mk members. You will choose the speaker and president, after that so what. Nothing will happen
@@kabelokatjedi3801 ...bro or sis, that sitting is convened for the purposes of electing the President and Presiding officers; including of course , the swearing in of Members. The Sitting will then be adjourned...and the Chief Justice will be seen again during Inauguration on a date to be announced. All sworn in MPs will be seen Pretoria during inauguration....Full stop!!!...
It's a matter of bums on seats.
350 is the minimum.
If you don't have that then they must all go home.
Khumalo must rest we don't know him if he was alone people were not going to vote him
So
😭🇲🇼
Khumalo uhlanya akakhohlwe
This guy might be one of the reasons MK party didn't get more votes as he tried to show that there were problems within the party... He's a spoiler
Khumalo the Tshabangu of SA
This in NOT NKANDLA
Kodwa Mr Khumalo uzobathini abantu abangaka be MK. UQONDE UKWENZANI VELE?
Uyagula lo khumalo ofukuziswa ombalula
Ba late kakhulu 😂😂😂😂
This constitution eyabantu abathile not all south african but yakhiwa ngobukhulu ubuqili so that izocindezela abampofu sinamaqembu amangaka nje iwo lomthetho, izingane zikhipha izisu iwo lomthetho, sinezingane ezingasalawuleki iwo lomthetho mumva nje kuthiwa izingane ezikoleni zizosebenzisa i toilet elilodwa so nje kuningi kakhulu uma kumele uvune abathile imajority iyasebenza so that bezofeza izinhloso zabo izwe linjena nje iwo lomthetho
More drama is still coming about MK. I don't think Cocourt will entertain MK matter.
Kikiki 😂lovely comment crazy party they lack knowledge
Why should CONCOURT refuse to listen to 2 million south africans
Why?
Is there a reason not to entertain Disputes???
Why are they a provision if they are not important???
The con court has a constitutional duty to entertain all of us
@jameskillu9171 2 million votes against the rest of the country ur maths is not mathing baba go home borders gona be closed soon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sabc have a hatred for Zuma.
It will suddenly disappear when he is President
Re shots meetse ka mo seshego dira plane🎉😂❤
Media will confuse you, 51+ is not applicable in parliament. >375members.
Sgebengu zondo akathembekile ukhokhelwe akaphumi mandleni
Send MK and Suummaa to Russia..........................
Thank you MK Amandla ✊✊✊ we want the truth and free and fair elections.
H
What is a rush for
Zuma leave our president alone stay at KZN
MK thinks they the main man's here
MK Party is stable🤣🤣🤣
IS JABULANI KHUMALO NOT SCARED FOR HIS LIFE? HE IS VERY BRAVE
Poverty is converting the man to a fool
Khumalo is the man ❤❤❤❤❤❤
He will die on these foolish praises you are giving him!!!
The MK has won this one again!!!their strategy checks out!,ohh oh racist DA uMkhonto is coming!
Can you explain how the DA is racist 😂😂😂
Is it because they're not corrupt?
😂😂😂 you’re hilarious. Zuma the clown, Zuma the crook!
@@CritikillACClaimed so you ask and answer your own questions??but to answer your question that you answered yourself already!,No it’s not that!,the racist DA is as corrupt as any other party but they are Racist because they only represent white interest!, they don’t care about black communities or black peoples interest at all!,they just care about their votes
@@Fuchsy01 Chest pains???🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lungamasuku6872 nah, stomach pains, from laughing so hard at your post 😂😂
We dont want mkp
When certain races don't want peace
Mk, please stop being such a crybaby
MK party s circus and main clown Jacob Zuma 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Zuma is reflection of his voters
Zuma overplayed his hand ..He thought the country will stop😂
You must be drunk
Zuma the clown, Zuma the crook!
he is pulling all 58 delegates by the string, he is like a master master
The Mk and other parties are not going to succeed in their move kutsho mna ngoku kudala ndithule ndingathethi
In the name of Jesus I reject, they will succeed.
Okunye y court I ignor iMK namanye amaparty if athi ukhetho alubanga free and fear kujahweni ukunika abamhlophe izwe lethu bafethu sasingekho oRam namaPhalaphala thina abakhokhe abakudlayo n uZondo iJaji elinjani Eli ignor constitution y Kanti angaboshwa loZondo nimsabani
Zondo vele uyakhokhelwa ngemali yabakhokhi ntela,angabe baletha intuthuko kubantu
The biggest mistake we did as South Africans we gave a grade 5 student to be president.
😂😂
Limpopo Brain as usually
The biggest problem that we have as a country is that the so called educated are fools, cowards, unintelligent and easy to buy
The very same "grade 5 student" made sure that electricity,food, fuel, was affordable to all of us!!
@@user-bi3is2ci5q grade 5 is grade 5 or STD 3
Mabangasilaleli kungenzeka ihlome kwanzulu nzondoungabinguncata iswe
Have those on MKP list realised they will not be paid if they don’t turn up?
That would be admitting they are not MPs and confirming MK’s case
For now what is more important is holding vote riggers to account
It’s for the best. Why pay for something or someone that adds zero value?
U khumalo ufuna impama yenhlanekezela
Zuma was gravely ill...nice to see his very fit n well
Shangane brain 🧠🤣
@colleengreenthompson He was never ill nogal Terminally ILL
Difference between evasion and avoidance ! be strategic !
Zuma is old he doesn't care about the country n it's stability....as long his wives are living a louvish lifestyle he is happy...what a shame,i wish courts mustn't entertain them .
The IEC shouldn’t have disregarded the vote rigging allegations
Who cares?
Cyril!!!
Welele it's not like Ramaphosa cares.
You are stupid wena
Stupid ppl like you n Ramaphosa are killing our ppl n the country
MA MK IZOLUNGA KODWA LENTO ENIYILWEĹAYO ILIPHI IJAJI ELIZOMA ÑANI NGOBA AMAJAJi ATHENGIWE WONKE
I wonder why Zuma is doing this, yet he was the biggest winner in this election