If he were smart he would call it a day after beating Flash -- there's basically no improving upon that. Like leave the casino after you beat the house, duh!
They might be streaming or either way playing against Flash gets views so it's in their interest to play against Flash. I think they are purposely sniping him on the ladder. Plus, it's Flash but not in his peak form.
Flash may not be as 'up' on recent meta strategies and mechanically will never be like he was in his 20s. But wow his game-sense is unreal. A few things made me just say "Wow" like in late game when greater spire came out, he had a wraith IMMEDIATELY. Guardians helped wipe out a group of about 6 marines near zerg base and helped with the push, but Flash had a wraith up before they could even threaten his natural. One wraith negated the investment of a greater spire + 3 guardians. That early game 4-marine moveout was amazing too, set the tone for the whole game. Rallying marines to the side was awesome, but Yoon did see that one single marine move out with his overlord so I do question why he wouldn't make a few more lings considering he knew a marine was crossing the map. If one marine is crossing the map- it's a suicide mission. Flash wouldn't send a suicide mission, he already had an SCV scout active at the time in Yoon's base. IMO there's no other conclusion there but "something's up!" and making some more lings was 100% the right play.
I’ve never seen a Terran player value their units so much. This guy was in the army, think about it, his strategy game is just so clean. Also one of the few players I’ve seen whose skirmishes Arty can never evaluate. He just does more with less, Flash’s marines are SCARY yo
Yeah these ladder matches are fun, Artosis. Still a good time even if it's not a tournament or anything. I'm just here to enjoy the cool play and commentary.
Hey Artosis, great videos! I'd really like tho if you did a little post-game breakdown instead of ending right after the GG - an overview analysis of how the game went and key moments might be really cool to round off casts like this. Tasteless does a pretty good post-game roundup for his casts if you want to see what I mean.
Love to see matches with the "Living Legends" - Flash, Jaedong, Bisu. Keep those coming! To your point about hotkeys - it would also be nice to have a video on one of your channels covering various hotkey setups and their pros/cons. Thanks as always for the videos!
yoon's strat was so sick and so aggressive. I love seeing these radical playstyles. He needed to do more damage with the mutalisks but Flash's defense was so strong
The guardian idea was kind of interesting, though. Don't see many Zerg utilize a few of them as a support damage. Would be ideal for picking off tanks and helps lurkers get into position.
I really love the ladder games! it would be cool if you did more recasts of classic games like fantasy vs Woongjin where he did the first ever mech switch tvz or yeah other classic games that arent even that important historically but show off the weird style of kespa era bw
would be nice to see a series how flash's (and other "old" players) style has changed/defined over the years, not sure what would be the best format (casting old->new games or just doing highlights of certain games over the years?). Anyhow great content, made me love brood wars eventho i never played/will play it, thanks!
Personally I don't really like watching ladder matches for pros much but for players the calibre of Flash when they have just come back from military and there's no matches of theirs out there that's great to watch. As for recommendations I did happen to see Last is back from the military.
You'll probably get tons of views with Bisu, Stork and Jaedong which will then help to grow the scene which will then create more good starcraft players etc etc so you should probably do that but I'd PERSONALLY rather watch tournaments or classic matches from the Kespa era. I never watched the Kespa era so I have no specific attachment to the all-time greats (I have a little attachment to JD and Bisu but I view Stork the way most people view Guemchi).
If there's one thing I could ask please don't give me too many Bisu or stork PvT games. PvT is my favourite matchup but Watching Bisu PvT just makes me sad because I could be watching Bisu PvZ or PvP and as for Stork I can only watch so many carrier rushes in a row.
@@grimriver5869 lurker under dark swarm doesnt just beat marines, it beats everything. you literally only have vessels and firebats to kill lurkers at that point.
Could you pad the endings of your videos with a random amount of the same video but rewound, to work as an anti-spoiler? I see the video length and it makes it easier to tell who will win.
Tournaments are great. Bo3 or Bo5 showmatches are probably my favourite style though. Also during tournaments it would be cool to have a quick shot of the bracket before or after the match. So anyone who only watches youtube has a better idea of the standings. Love what you do. BW4life.
I have been searching for a long time for someone to cast the holy war between Nal_rA and saviOr on peaks of beakdu. if anyone knows where there is a fun english cast or someone willing to do this epic battle, I would love to watch it for an hour.
What about some absolutely classic/monumental starcraft matches as a subseries? Try and explore some of starcraft's rich history, see how the meta changed. I don't know where you'd get the replays necessarily, but if you somehow could, it'd be pretty awesome.
Could he have used the Eraser on the guardians? With purely ling/lurker/guardian, a science vessel could have rubbed its irradiated body all over the guardians, yeah? (wraith works too, but that came a bit later)
a bit late , but i tend to like casts between mid pros or non korean pros (if you wanna use that terminology) as i feel like the chances for something crazy to happen are much higher outside of korea ... with the korean scene, they make so few mistakes that you can kinda tell who will win as the game goes pass the minute 6 or 7 (unless you are looking at a ZvZ) like with mid props/non korean you get to see ... corsair webs, mech vs zerg with no transition, crazy vulture all in that actually win games... heck , there was even a scout made in one non-korean game that was made nonirronic and actually turned the game around that said i also like games on non-ladder maps that are a bit awkward and require unorthox strategies or builds ... seeying the same strategies on the ladder maps that we all played a million times gets boring ... also ... seeing games on generic maps tends to be somewhat stalle as well, as the same concept basically continues to apply and the map is more often than not a basic map where the starting bases are a bit rotated, or where terran need to make turrets like one depo more to the south than normal ... which is not really that exiting TL;DR non korean players playing on very awkward and unorthodox maps , i love those scenarios
good to mix it up arty in my opinion it could be a great idea to have a pro ladder game and maybe some ameture games alternate it mayb? anyway love it man ! been watching since GOMTV
That was wild. After the initial move out by flash where he lost all his marines I though Yoon would just slowly win via choking out his Econ. But man he is scrappy.
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Video wouldn’t be complete without flash staring at me
o____o
Flash knows what you did
I have been blessed by having GOD's gaze piercing straight into my soul 😂
Who says he’s staring at you specifically? Maybe past you at one of us?
It comforts me to have god watching over me.
Bro imagine beating Flash, celebrating like crazy, queueing up again and it's Flash again.
Like jeez man let me celebrate my win
If he were smart he would call it a day after beating Flash -- there's basically no improving upon that. Like leave the casino after you beat the house, duh!
They might be streaming or either way playing against Flash gets views so it's in their interest to play against Flash. I think they are purposely sniping him on the ladder. Plus, it's Flash but not in his peak form.
Did Flash random as Terran or did he pick it?
Anything with Flash, Jaedong, stork, and Bisu etc I watch!
I love watching the legends.
I think we will see a lot of Flash games as they get way higher viewer numbers.
Absolutely. And I Cheer for each of them in ASL no matter who they face. Even though I like some of the newer guys too.
@@Phinigma me too. starcraft is great!
Those Guardians did indeed slaughter Zerglings!
Flash may not be as 'up' on recent meta strategies and mechanically will never be like he was in his 20s. But wow his game-sense is unreal. A few things made me just say "Wow" like in late game when greater spire came out, he had a wraith IMMEDIATELY. Guardians helped wipe out a group of about 6 marines near zerg base and helped with the push, but Flash had a wraith up before they could even threaten his natural. One wraith negated the investment of a greater spire + 3 guardians.
That early game 4-marine moveout was amazing too, set the tone for the whole game. Rallying marines to the side was awesome, but Yoon did see that one single marine move out with his overlord so I do question why he wouldn't make a few more lings considering he knew a marine was crossing the map. If one marine is crossing the map- it's a suicide mission. Flash wouldn't send a suicide mission, he already had an SCV scout active at the time in Yoon's base. IMO there's no other conclusion there but "something's up!" and making some more lings was 100% the right play.
Arty be like 'ooooh he needs a Vessel now'. Flash had already started it, he knew before Arty and Arty has maphack.
I’ve never seen a Terran player value their units so much. This guy was in the army, think about it, his strategy game is just so clean. Also one of the few players I’ve seen whose skirmishes Arty can never evaluate. He just does more with less, Flash’s marines are SCARY yo
arty, when you're happy, we're happy. thanks for the video.
Yeah these ladder matches are fun, Artosis. Still a good time even if it's not a tournament or anything. I'm just here to enjoy the cool play and commentary.
Hey Artosis, great videos! I'd really like tho if you did a little post-game breakdown instead of ending right after the GG - an overview analysis of how the game went and key moments might be really cool to round off casts like this. Tasteless does a pretty good post-game roundup for his casts if you want to see what I mean.
Are you suggesting he is unaware of what gis best friend's casts look like? 😂
Always loved your enthusiasm for commentating. Such great knowledge of the game which makes it a pleasure to watch! Thanks!!!
Would love to see occasional casts of old iconic games from the KESPA era.
Love seeing ladder games because they really are a different beast than tournament
Love to see matches with the "Living Legends" - Flash, Jaedong, Bisu. Keep those coming! To your point about hotkeys - it would also be nice to have a video on one of your channels covering various hotkey setups and their pros/cons. Thanks as always for the videos!
Heppy Artosis got me subbed. Positive vibes from yet another legend.
Love the variety! Longer series interspersed with ladder games - perfect 👌
Great video! I'd like to see more of Flash's games, especially vs a good Protoss.
yoon's strat was so sick and so aggressive. I love seeing these radical playstyles. He needed to do more damage with the mutalisks but Flash's defense was so strong
Love your Flash replays!
Gg, thanks for the great casts dude.
The guardian idea was kind of interesting, though. Don't see many Zerg utilize a few of them as a support damage. Would be ideal for picking off tanks and helps lurkers get into position.
Love any pro matches you cast
ty artois, i wanna see all flash games pls
love these!
extremely exciting unit composition from Z, great game overall, thank you Arty!
I really love the ladder games! it would be cool if you did more recasts of classic games like fantasy vs Woongjin where he did the first ever mech switch tvz or yeah other classic games that arent even that important historically but show off the weird style of kespa era bw
Keep casting flash! Artosis is the only person in the world i would want to hear cover a replay
would be nice to see a series how flash's (and other "old" players) style has changed/defined
over the years, not sure what would be the best format (casting old->new games or just doing highlights of certain games over the years?). Anyhow great content, made me love brood wars eventho i never played/will play it, thanks!
great game, these are a lot of fun to watch
Your the best caster by far. Thank you.
Would love more content like this
BW on UA-cam has come along way since 2008 where i was watching 240p videos with Korean commentary
I was there too.
I think it would also be fun/informative to watch/cast the game from one pro's perspective.
more flash please arty and all other old school progamers
Hello Artosis. Love your videos. Greetings from Costa Rica.
Personally I don't really like watching ladder matches for pros much but for players the calibre of Flash when they have just come back from military and there's no matches of theirs out there that's great to watch. As for recommendations I did happen to see Last is back from the military.
You'll probably get tons of views with Bisu, Stork and Jaedong which will then help to grow the scene which will then create more good starcraft players etc etc so you should probably do that but I'd PERSONALLY rather watch tournaments or classic matches from the Kespa era.
I never watched the Kespa era so I have no specific attachment to the all-time greats (I have a little attachment to JD and Bisu but I view Stork the way most people view Guemchi).
If there's one thing I could ask please don't give me too many Bisu or stork PvT games. PvT is my favourite matchup but Watching Bisu PvT just makes me sad because I could be watching Bisu PvZ or PvP and as for Stork I can only watch so many carrier rushes in a row.
Crazy that zerg with half the supply can still hold on
Yeah terran should be able to kill lurker defiler guardians with marines how imba nerf zerg
@@grimriver5869 lurker under dark swarm doesnt just beat marines, it beats everything. you literally only have vessels and firebats to kill lurkers at that point.
@@turgid4391 the point was that yoon teched faster than flash in that game, hence why he was able to stay in the game with lower supply.
It's a pleasure watching the grand master play.
When I close my eye I still see his stare
Awesome game by flash, cool to see him
awesome game thanks for posting
Would love to see some 2v2s every now and then
Would love to see more Bisu games. Or any Protoss games really since they’re getting destroyed at the moment in ASL (apart from Mini).
hey artosis what happened to FFA ? or terrible maps it was so much fun to watch that
I like to see old legends playing, to see how they are doing
flash really out of shape
excellent game cast
Id watch anything if it's brood war.
Be it Tourney's, foreign scene, or out of shape legends scrumming it out like the rest of us.
Could you pad the endings of your videos with a random amount of the same video but rewound, to work as an anti-spoiler? I see the video length and it makes it easier to tell who will win.
Tournaments are great. Bo3 or Bo5 showmatches are probably my favourite style though.
Also during tournaments it would be cool to have a quick shot of the bracket before or after the match. So anyone who only watches youtube has a better idea of the standings.
Love what you do. BW4life.
I like these videos.
I missed new games with Flash!
Flash is genius, he did not let any lings arrive to war-front for consumes at the end :). Man got 200iq.
cast more Reach!
I took a huge dump and listened to this thanks arty
Exciting to see a wraith shooting at guardians in a pro TvZ! xD
Is there a list of people's smurf names somewhere, cant find an updated one on liquipedia
I have been searching for a long time for someone to cast the holy war between Nal_rA and saviOr on peaks of beakdu. if anyone knows where there is a fun english cast or someone willing to do this epic battle, I would love to watch it for an hour.
Flash: THIS ISN"T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!!!
Yoon: I KNOW! That's why I'm trying to kill you now! Why won't you DIE?!
among mortals once more...
please universe let it become the new normal
Wraith can shoot flying units in dark swarm?
Not just legends, I'd love to watch the current top players too.
What about some absolutely classic/monumental starcraft matches as a subseries? Try and explore some of starcraft's rich history, see how the meta changed. I don't know where you'd get the replays necessarily, but if you somehow could, it'd be pretty awesome.
Could he have used the Eraser on the guardians? With purely ling/lurker/guardian, a science vessel could have rubbed its irradiated body all over the guardians, yeah? (wraith works too, but that came a bit later)
Flash is at a different level. You rarely see them all in, they are always prepared for all scenarios even in the previous game.
how do you find these replays?
What is the flash chanel now?
More flash please.
Do they know who they’re up against during the game?
Watching current Flash play, is like watching current Tony Ferguson fight...
As much as I like watching foreign players I really like these casts with ASL tier players
a bit late , but i tend to like casts between mid pros or non korean pros (if you wanna use that terminology) as i feel like the chances for something crazy to happen are much higher outside of korea ... with the korean scene, they make so few mistakes that you can kinda tell who will win as the game goes pass the minute 6 or 7 (unless you are looking at a ZvZ)
like with mid props/non korean you get to see ... corsair webs, mech vs zerg with no transition, crazy vulture all in that actually win games... heck , there was even a scout made in one non-korean game that was made nonirronic and actually turned the game around
that said i also like games on non-ladder maps that are a bit awkward and require unorthox strategies or builds ... seeying the same strategies on the ladder maps that we all played a million times gets boring ... also ... seeing games on generic maps tends to be somewhat stalle as well, as the same concept basically continues to apply and the map is more often than not a basic map where the starting bases are a bit rotated, or where terran need to make turrets like one depo more to the south than normal ... which is not really that exiting
TL;DR non korean players playing on very awkward and unorthodox maps , i love those scenarios
good to mix it up arty in my opinion it could be a great idea to have a pro ladder game and maybe some ameture games alternate it mayb? anyway love it man ! been watching since GOMTV
I don't really understand because the only time we saw flash in a tournament he didn't do very well.
For me I prefer if you mix between top level korean ladder, tournaments with lowerlevel pros and foreigners!
Man I can’t believe I love SC so much! It sucks im the only one I know that watches this 🤣 it’s like my guilty secret I guess 🤷♂️
But remember… Flash can be beaten, remember Effort! I was upset but proved he can be a human too sometimes if all stars align.
That was wild. After the initial move out by flash where he lost all his marines I though Yoon would just slowly win via choking out his Econ. But man he is scrappy.
Spoiler
Said this last time but flashs macro is so good. He always just simply has more stuff than other terrans would in the same situation
I want Random Flash back... Let's hope he gets to a level again where he feels confident to play Random in tournaments
Guardians big stronk
not sure if thats flash 1500 floating minerals on 2 bases?
yay
Light!!!!
flash eyes should blink
Yes.
Do Bisuuuuuuu!!!!
I guess im not watching the first game, thanks to the title lmao
Looks like guardians and zerglings are not effective against wraiths.
Just going to comment about the mech switch because he is getting older because bio hurts to play.
How about not putting a spoiler in the title?
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First hello arty! My name is arty too
yoon is scary
Flash would've cast his game into a victory.
I come here to hear you talk and watch starcraft. Please provide more content like that kthxbye
I think Light can take Flash now.
Flash is noticeable slower. 280 apm, he used to be 350.
Terran OP.
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4k when...???
Can you do a few more shorter games. Shorter than 20 min games.