It's got to be weird for e-sports legends to walk around at 29-33 years old and be looked at like they're grizzled old veterans, when in any other context 30 years old is still pretty damn young lol...
JD's meta strategy for this match was brilliant, he purposely built his bases forward just to make it easier to defend against harassment while also at the same time constantly threatening his own harassment, since by playing like this he can keep the bulk of his army at the front and it's a really long walk for Protoss to get from around to his main or natural which means he can always prepare for anything. This forced Bisu into a defensive position in the earlygame and prevented him from doing any harassment AND from expanding fast, which allowed Z to have 59 drones while P had 49 drones as the game transitioned into midgame. Basically JD was in for the long game from the start, and he pulled it off exactly like he wanted. He knew that early skirmishes here will most likely be in P favor due to the cliff layouts and the short counterattack distances, so there's no point to take risks and no point to attack until dark swarm and adrenal are out. The whole thing was orchestrated towards the end goal.
I love seeing the lings mixed in. I used to do that all the time. They are so extremely cheap that all you need to support constant production from a hatchery is 3 drones on minerals..... Even just attack-moving them into an opponent's 3rd base occasionally just to draw their apm and attention away from macro or micro during fights can make a huge difference. Triple evo really helps when you mix lings in, and I loved seeing that in this game.
I think that’s a great idea that you have a second channel for casts leaving this channel purely for Brood War. I’ll be watching both! Hope you’ve found a nice place for that Space Marine I painted you man :) - Jay
2:20 Oooooh~. Some Storm Gate casts maybe?! I'm checking out the channel now. DUDES! Storm Gate AND Zero Space casts! I'm kinda shocked. Not only is Artosis uploading daily here, he's uploading DAILY on ArtosisCasts2 AS WELL! I can't imagine how busy you must be with all that but, thank you so much Artosis! I'll definitely be checking out some Storm Gate casts. Also, I just subscribed to the second casting channel~. Also, LOVED this game!
JD forced some great trades. I appreciate that you started a second casting channel. It's so hard to have multiple games on the same channel without being punished by the algorithm. I think a lot of AoE2+4 players found that when their audiences would split. Might check out your other casting channel for the variety!
Hi Artosis! Is there any chance you could link to the replay you used for this video in the video description? I'd like to study more pro replays but it's a little difficult for me to know how to find the right barcode account, haha
I'm not sure how but u can add ur second channel to a channel section on this channel would make it easier to find. Vtubers use it a lot to link like other gen mates and such
(Spoiler) That map seems super difficult for PvZ with all that highground. Obi-wan might be a Zerg player. Also it feels when Zerg has dark swarms ready when the Protoss doesn't even have a robo on the way it rarely ends well
that 3 hatchery near pretty much ALL ENGAGEMENTS was the key to winning, Jaedong macro was so good, he after traded well with his army those reinforcments got there to solidify the position and maintain high ground. Awesome game from him.
Time-traveled to random date - wanting to see what year it is, checking up half of my favorite SC:BW caster - watching Jaedong vs Bisu ... didn't help at all ... well at least it was fun!
Random question here: Lets say im playing zerg and i want to practice my 4 pool. Would it be beneficial to tell my opponent at start im going 4 pool, ally with them to give them vision so they know im not lying. The idea is to make it as hard as possible for myself, so that when i 4 pool in the ASL (theoretically) I would have had really good practice I suppose the pros must do things like this? Play custom games vs eachother and plan out what builds they will do in order to practice vs eachother?
The whole 13:00 to 14:20 fight shows why Starcraft can be seen as better than starcraft 2. In SC2 both would have just moved their armies back and forth, trying to snipe two units while only losing one. This would have been super boring to watch because almost nothing would have happened on the screen. This here however was an actually super intense fight that both sides had committed into - you can't retreat that many units in SC2 because you can only select 12. So they're actually trying to make the best out of it and actually fight it out.
I think jaedong taking and defending that middle 3rd base so early won him the game hands down. It served as a really strong forward base to rally too, made it really easy to reinforce the central area, and it threatened two potential expos that bisu would've preferred (this top expo and the 4th expo NW of the center). Bisu was essentially stuck, he had to either force a hard to defend expo (as he did in this game) or he would be stuck on the complete left side making his 3rd/4th bases on the W/SW side very hard to reinforce.
Always interesting to see pros put so much priority on map control. Not a single base was destroyed yet Bisu just gg'd after failing to break the center.
I wonder why while roaming in mid game after Protoss third he doesn't switch into Reaver. Pushing ramps over and over seems like it will never work. Storm drops and Reaver would probably do nicely and allow a fourth at least. That choke in the center of the fourth seemed doable.
I wouldn't mind watching other RTS games but it feels really weird watching casts of games I can't play myself. Casting games that isn't released yet is the issue imo.
Do they have any idea who they're fighting, who the other player is, with the "|||||||||" they both use for whatever reason? Why do the players so infrequently use the names they're known by?
defilers are stupid op. The spells it has are fine but i feel like detection units should counter dark swarm and plague should only decrease health AFTER shields are down and plague should get cleansed with batteries.
I wonder why all zerg players do third exp close to their natural and go mass hydra now. Not so long ago they were making third on natural of another main. So they had 4 bases with 2 entrances. They made defence with sunks, lulkers and were going fast hive for defilers, ultras.. Interesting how all players play the same tactics at the same time..
When you mention people are "Only fans of Broodwar" it reminds me that Arty needs to make an Only Fans. Imagine the monetization possibilities?! I for one would greatly enjoy footie pajamas covered with mario erotica, 111111111111111111111111111111, and other Arty memes plastered all over it. And I'm sure some guy would pay you like $200 to read 10 straight minutes of Mario erotica. Think about it man.
RT, instead of that overwhelmingly boring "Artosis Casts 2" you can use something like "Artosis Casts non-BroodWar". Ok, this is not great either. "Artosis Casts RTS" ? I know that BroodWar is an RTS too, but for a short name this would be distinctive enough, people will understand. And surely there are better names out there, you just need to send your vultures to find them.
You can't tell me that Dark Archons don't have a place in late game PvZ. Maestrom + storm is a 1shot kill for anything in the mael, and FB has a longer range than Defilers and auto kills them as they're always high energy. Most under utilized Protoss unit that has undiscovered power imo. But hey, keep bashing your head into ling/lurk/hydra + dark swarm 🤷♂
Bisu is obviously one if not the best protoss but I think he threw this match. He should've known better. JD was going to hold the high-ground with lurkers. I think this is a Zerg favored map... needed lategame carriers and HT storm (there is a lot of gas) or cheese... Regular army attacks was never going to make it. The advantage of high-ground + Lurker everywhere is too much and hard to get through.
The fact that these old heads constantly put out games of such high quality gives the rest of us hope.
It's got to be weird for e-sports legends to walk around at 29-33 years old and be looked at like they're grizzled old veterans, when in any other context 30 years old is still pretty damn young lol...
@@gasstationpeanuts1814 If george foreman could win the heavyweight boxing championship at 45 I think a 30 year old could play starcraft
Jaedong vs Bisu with Artosis casting, today is a good day.
JD's meta strategy for this match was brilliant, he purposely built his bases forward just to make it easier to defend against harassment while also at the same time constantly threatening his own harassment, since by playing like this he can keep the bulk of his army at the front and it's a really long walk for Protoss to get from around to his main or natural which means he can always prepare for anything. This forced Bisu into a defensive position in the earlygame and prevented him from doing any harassment AND from expanding fast, which allowed Z to have 59 drones while P had 49 drones as the game transitioned into midgame.
Basically JD was in for the long game from the start, and he pulled it off exactly like he wanted. He knew that early skirmishes here will most likely be in P favor due to the cliff layouts and the short counterattack distances, so there's no point to take risks and no point to attack until dark swarm and adrenal are out. The whole thing was orchestrated towards the end goal.
Feels like I've gone back in time 15-20 years with some original replay casts of RTS games on UA-cam.
Been waiting for more Jaedong.
the loser finally won one
woooooo
@@cl8804 I know man! I was hyped! Somebody needs to pick up the zerg mantle again!
@@Bassium08 SoulKey is well on his way to doing just that.
@@gasstationpeanuts1814 haven't heard of him.
WHO?? @@gasstationpeanuts1814
We could have Bisu, Flash, And Jaedong in an upcoming ASL. Think about that...
"Still on top of the world" was a very smooth transition into the map positioning. Well done, Artosis. :P
Loving how frequently you're able to find & cast good games! Always a treat to see these, even after all this time.
Legendary. Thank you Artosis for bring this to us
Jaedong looking like a 10 times ASL champion in this one
My man RT always supplying legendary gameplay and commentary for me to enjoy when I get home from work
Artosis! Long time fan here, watched GSL my whole life and this was always my favourite matchup! thanks for the upload
This is great, i appriciete the regularity and the quality of the chosen games as well!
I love starting my morning with some coffee and ArtosisCast!
After watch Artosis cast, I saw SC game in a different view and knowledge. Never come back to other SC cast channel. Great work and highly respect.
Its so great to see the GOATs are still at it!
I was already subbed somehow but thanks for even more content! Looking forward
Arty I’m so happy your mission is to keep this channel pure… makes me so happy lol😊😂
Gods of Starcraft clash again :)
Good cast! As always!
Love that you are keeping this brood war. Agreed that naming the other channel something more creative makes sense.
Masterfully done
I love seeing the lings mixed in. I used to do that all the time. They are so extremely cheap that all you need to support constant production from a hatchery is 3 drones on minerals..... Even just attack-moving them into an opponent's 3rd base occasionally just to draw their apm and attention away from macro or micro during fights can make a huge difference. Triple evo really helps when you mix lings in, and I loved seeing that in this game.
I think that’s a great idea that you have a second channel for casts leaving this channel purely for Brood War. I’ll be watching both!
Hope you’ve found a nice place for that Space Marine I painted you man :) - Jay
2:20 Oooooh~. Some Storm Gate casts maybe?! I'm checking out the channel now.
DUDES! Storm Gate AND Zero Space casts! I'm kinda shocked. Not only is Artosis uploading daily here, he's uploading DAILY on ArtosisCasts2 AS WELL!
I can't imagine how busy you must be with all that but, thank you so much Artosis! I'll definitely be checking out some Storm Gate casts.
Also, I just subscribed to the second casting channel~.
Also, LOVED this game!
Magnificent Jaedong game, just great!!
Hey Arty, you should add a link to you other channel in the description, not only "Casts 2" but also your other channel.
I like how the title needs no further words other than JD vs Bisu and it speaks loudest this time :D
JD forced some great trades.
I appreciate that you started a second casting channel. It's so hard to have multiple games on the same channel without being punished by the algorithm. I think a lot of AoE2+4 players found that when their audiences would split. Might check out your other casting channel for the variety!
Started to fall in love with sc1, such an amazing game, and aertie and tasteless❤
StarCraft is the best computer game ever made.
All hail the algorithm
Great game!
good shit
Hi Artosis!
Is there any chance you could link to the replay you used for this video in the video description? I'd like to study more pro replays but it's a little difficult for me to know how to find the right barcode account, haha
love the switch into hydras instead of blindly feeding mutas
cool beans
omg am i back in early 2000s, i've been playing more BW again too lately lol
I'm not sure how but u can add ur second channel to a channel section on this channel would make it easier to find. Vtubers use it a lot to link like other gen mates and such
Bro outed himself as a vtuber enjoyer
@@user-bn1ns6xp3i taconator2936: chadyes.png
Warm beans
(Spoiler)
That map seems super difficult for PvZ with all that highground. Obi-wan might be a Zerg player.
Also it feels when Zerg has dark swarms ready when the Protoss doesn't even have a robo on the way it rarely ends well
When was this game played? Especially with ASL coming up, would be great to get an idea on the shape some of these top pros are in!
that 3 hatchery near pretty much ALL ENGAGEMENTS was the key to winning, Jaedong macro was so good, he after traded well with his army those reinforcments got there to solidify the position and maintain high ground. Awesome game from him.
Which MSL or OSL finals are those? How have we traveled to the past, gotta ask Doc Brown for help getting to the present. 😂
Time-traveled to random date - wanting to see what year it is, checking up half of my favorite SC:BW caster - watching Jaedong vs Bisu ... didn't help at all ... well at least it was fun!
That battle at 13:20 was sooo epic!!!
You sell your self well. Every time you ask me to like, I do it. You have another channel? I won’t watch the videos probably but I’ll go sub.
Reminds me of that night in 1999
Bisu vs JD? Ok I’ll watch why not? Yay!
Gotta give you that comment
Random question here:
Lets say im playing zerg and i want to practice my 4 pool. Would it be beneficial to tell my opponent at start im going 4 pool, ally with them to give them vision so they know im not lying.
The idea is to make it as hard as possible for myself, so that when i 4 pool in the ASL (theoretically) I would have had really good practice
I suppose the pros must do things like this? Play custom games vs eachother and plan out what builds they will do in order to practice vs eachother?
In those games, especially when a DT has been made earlier, why don't we ever see maelstorm Dark Archons?
The whole 13:00 to 14:20 fight shows why Starcraft can be seen as better than starcraft 2. In SC2 both would have just moved their armies back and forth, trying to snipe two units while only losing one. This would have been super boring to watch because almost nothing would have happened on the screen. This here however was an actually super intense fight that both sides had committed into - you can't retreat that many units in SC2 because you can only select 12. So they're actually trying to make the best out of it and actually fight it out.
Could you louder the ingame sound please ? Love your channel, only this channel, old starcraft my childhood
I think jaedong taking and defending that middle 3rd base so early won him the game hands down. It served as a really strong forward base to rally too, made it really easy to reinforce the central area, and it threatened two potential expos that bisu would've preferred (this top expo and the 4th expo NW of the center). Bisu was essentially stuck, he had to either force a hard to defend expo (as he did in this game) or he would be stuck on the complete left side making his 3rd/4th bases on the W/SW side very hard to reinforce.
map win
Always interesting to see pros put so much priority on map control. Not a single base was destroyed yet Bisu just gg'd after failing to break the center.
Jaedong is still a BEAST.
cheers
Gg, great Zerg.
2:15 / 19:28 no others things here. No Twitch etc. sessions uploads. Just casts like this video
wp by z ... i think Bisu didn't realize when he had windows of opportunity
I wonder why while roaming in mid game after Protoss third he doesn't switch into Reaver. Pushing ramps over and over seems like it will never work. Storm drops and Reaver would probably do nicely and allow a fourth at least. That choke in the center of the fourth seemed doable.
i like that map pretty cool
Bisu played the matchup, Jaedong played the map.
Jaedong looked so strong
God of Zerg vs God of Protoss
I wouldn't mind watching other RTS games but it feels really weird watching casts of games I can't play myself. Casting games that isn't released yet is the issue imo.
It is my wish that Jaedong becomes the dominant player he once was. He’s still my #1 broodwar player.
Arty put your other channel in your video descriptions. Don't tell us about it and not give us a direct link my man.
gg
Do they have any idea who they're fighting, who the other player is, with the "|||||||||" they both use for whatever reason? Why do the players so infrequently use the names they're known by?
defilers are stupid op. The spells it has are fine but i feel like detection units should counter dark swarm and plague should only decrease health AFTER shields are down and plague should get cleansed with batteries.
ArTWOsis casts lmao
Bisu didn't do enough to harass Zerg.
Wow
a little more volumen of the game, please
Fun players
Game sounds and music seem a bit too low, Artosis. :)
!!!
These casts could use some Mario donations in the background
fuck no
I wonder why all zerg players do third exp close to their natural and go mass hydra now. Not so long ago they were making third on natural of another main. So they had 4 bases with 2 entrances. They made defence with sunks, lulkers and were going fast hive for defilers, ultras.. Interesting how all players play the same tactics at the same time..
PLEASE RAPLECE NICKNAMES TO REAL ONES (IIIIIIIIIIIIIII = means nothing). Btw. Thank you for casting
Third beans 🫘 🎉
When you mention people are "Only fans of Broodwar" it reminds me that Arty needs to make an Only Fans. Imagine the monetization possibilities?!
I for one would greatly enjoy footie pajamas covered with mario erotica, 111111111111111111111111111111, and other Arty memes plastered all over it.
And I'm sure some guy would pay you like $200 to read 10 straight minutes of Mario erotica. Think about it man.
RT, instead of that overwhelmingly boring "Artosis Casts 2" you can use something like "Artosis Casts non-BroodWar". Ok, this is not great either. "Artosis Casts RTS" ? I know that BroodWar is an RTS too, but for a short name this would be distinctive enough, people will understand. And surely there are better names out there, you just need to send your vultures to find them.
"Arty Cast, Anything Goes"
"Not artosis casts" 😅
RT CASTY
"Artosis casts everything" that's the name we need
Artosis' side casts
I want JD to win every game I watch
Tough map for PvZ
Protoss is so weak. They just cant deal with swarm and lurker
jaedonk
Do zergs even lose at this level of skill? Late game zerg seems unstoppable.
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Easy Protoss
There is only Broodwar. Any other RTS is just a distraction from Broodwar.
HE DID IT--THA DONG WON A GAME!!
wooooooo
You can't tell me that Dark Archons don't have a place in late game PvZ.
Maestrom + storm is a 1shot kill for anything in the mael, and FB has a longer range than Defilers and auto kills them as they're always high energy.
Most under utilized Protoss unit that has undiscovered power imo.
But hey, keep bashing your head into ling/lurk/hydra + dark swarm 🤷♂
Artosiscasts2+2=2+2=2+2=2+2
What a shit map. Let's zerg camp the middle and turtle with lurkers
Bisu is obviously one if not the best protoss but I think he threw this match. He should've known better. JD was going to hold the high-ground with lurkers. I think this is a Zerg favored map... needed lategame carriers and HT storm (there is a lot of gas) or cheese... Regular army attacks was never going to make it. The advantage of high-ground + Lurker everywhere is too much and hard to get through.
needed reavers
Starcraft is far superior to sc2
too bad the imba race won
get into total annihilation and ill watch your other channel, otherwise nah, those games are shit sc2 wanna-be's