The only thing that would get me to tune in again would be to watch the Daleks exterminate the Doctor and bring this sorry mess they’ve made to an end.
This would be awesome! Would love for Who to continue but in the pre-woke format. Surely the idiots running it must see that going down this path leads to ratings failure and more negative feedback than positive.
My gay cousin and his black gay friend loathe it. Unfortunately these days writers, directors and producers are too busy being politically correct to come up with good writing, great characters and to find good actors. Pearl Mackie was fabulous as Bill Potts. Which shows they CAN do it. I find it a terrible shame. Star Wars is suffering the same fate. Skeleton Crew is surprisingly good, but The Acolyte was dreadful. And all of Amandla Stenberg's rap videos can't change that.
@@zoetropo1 The Joy character in the episode literally accused the Doctor of mansplaining and had the hotel owner agree with her, that is political messaging that takes the immersion out, normal people aren't like that, it was the same with Rose and Donna during the 50th anniversary, saying that the Doctor was smarter when he was a woman, this stuff is very insulting to viewers, things like that is why people are quitting and boycotting the show, they're trying to push the propaganda of leftwing university students with rich parents
Personally, I thought last year's Christmas Special was okay. Definitely no A Christmas Carol or Last Christmas but I've seen worse. Like Voyage of the Damned which was dire. But then that was under RTD's watch as well. I've still to watch this year's but I can't pretend my expectations are going to be too high.
@@Foebane72 What I meant is that when the show is eventually cancelled (I mean, it's only a matter of time, no pun intended), it will not be because it was out of ideas or it's concept was tired and played out with audiences, like others. It will be because it was actively murdered by it's creators, injecting stuff few wanted repeatedly, against the will of the long-term fanbase. I hope that makes more sense. Sorry for any confusion in my wording. It is sad to see what is happening to what was a great show until about a couple of years ago.
@@sailor_gaia The show WILL die, as the BBC spent years injecting DEI stuff into it, and they're certainly NOT about to backpedal now, just because the majority of people they're not going after are not interested.
I used to love Dr. Who back in the day, when it was entertainment rather than sermons. I got fed up of being preached to every week. Sadly that happens in too many TV shows and movies nowadays. Just give me a few hours of escapism!
Dude, I love your stuff, but honestly, I was a doctor who fan way back with Jon Pertwee and this Show is just dead to me. It died. after Peter Capaldi. and even then Capaldi was hit or miss at best.
Honestly, my biggest problem with Peter Capaldi is that he wasn't John Hurt. Swap Capaldi and Hurt around and I'd be calling Series 8 and 9 two of the greatest seasons in Doctor Who history. I wouldn't change anything else about them, except the guitar and sonic sunglasses (which on Hurt would have worked perfectly as just regular reading glasses). I might even highly praise Series 10 too, although I didn't make it that far because Capaldi pissed me off so much and even in this alternate reality, there's no guarantee that Hurt lived long enough to do it.
I quit about half way through Capaldi’s run and I’ve been watching it since Jon Pertwee. I even watched the whole Sylvester McCoy run but it’s just not for me anymore.
When a plasticine dog comes out of retirement, dusts himself off, and wipes the floor with your over promoted DEI junk, you must see the game is up. Narrowly beating a soap that has been running since the mid-80s.
I made the mistake of reading the review in the Guardian this morning. The reviewer, who I suspect has just been promoted from tea-lady to culture editor, gave it 5 stars and considers it to be the greatest episode of Dr Who ever produced, while Gatwa should now be considered a god. Shills have now taken over the planet.
Its ok. There are plenty of idiots out there that think this version of Doctor Who is the best its ever been. All you can say is they must watch some utter crap for the rest of their entertainment. And how this version can be better than stuff like Pyramids of Mars, Inferno, Impossible Planet, and the truly fantastic Time of the Angels Matt Smiths first season 2 parter is utterly ridiculous. These people who think like this are truly deluded.
*Last Christmas I went and touched grass, the very next day, The Doctor went gay. This year to save Gatwa from tears, I won't be watching Christmas special!* 🎄
Very good...I used to do a version of this too, sending up George Michael. He made a career out of appealing to women and kept his sexuality a secret. The minute he came out his career tanked and he fell into the sleaze and drugs and controversy that tainted his final years. I used to sing a version to my ex as she was a huge George fan, and she used to laugh till she cried...Last Christmas I gave you my heart....But the very next day, I came out as gay....This year to save me from que*rs, I'm going to give it to some one straight......etc...
@Simon-xc5oy *Last Christmas I gave you my arse, the very next day you came out as gay, this year after a couple of beers, I'll give it to no one special!* 😮
They'll come for fallout next. These people know no joy and misery loves company. Imagine having to make everything of your personality your sexual identity. Sad really. These people need hobbies.
We sat through the end of it to watch Wallace & Gromit straight after. My dad's reaction of “That looked bloody awful” was the highlight of what we saw. Luckily Aardman took away the bad taste.
Because you watched the last few seconds of it prior to Wallace & Gromit, the BBC would probably count that in their ratings as a "technical viewer" ;)
Dr Who use to be a family wide event for us all. Past few years it hasn't even come up in conversation with my younger siblings or older family members. I didn't even know there was an Xmas special this year
Yes. I do. And that was the modern era with catchup and Iplayer too. There are no excuses left for this travesty that has the Doctor Who, with turbo gay as the lead.
@@crystal_english_himeji No its not. It was just proven by Gavin and Stacy and Wallace and Gromit! So if you make something people like, that they WANT to see, the audience will show up in droves. Wallace and Gromit have always done well, and so have most other Christmas Specials from other shows, over the past decades. Only Fools and Horses, Two Ronnies and stuff like that. Yes there used to be only 3 channels, but there were a lot less people in the UK back then too. So the message in all this is, leave out the woke crap, write something the vast majority can enjoy, all ages, sexes and faiths etc, and you get large viewing figures.
Low viewing figures. Who'd have thought? I mean an actor who said there wasn't enough dance routines in the programme and wanted to "destroy a monster with twerking".
@@NoNeed2No should the doctor just ignore all the dying innocent people around him then? Not saying he doesn't cry too much, but what should he have done in that situation
@@scaleofperspective6211 same thing he did at the end... nothing because Nobody "Died" they just became something Different... Such a terrible episode.
Saw the last couple of minutes of Doctor Who waiting for Wallace and Gromit, and boy, that was enough to confirm I was right not to stick around after Capaldi was kicked out. New-New Who is truly embarrassing.
Doctor Who is beyond dead. It pretty much died with Jodie and Chris Chibnall's horrible run. And now under RTD, it's nothing more but a shambling rotting zomibe, just begging to be put out of it's pathetic misery. I've said it before, but for me personally, Doctor Who ended back in 2013 with the Day of the Doctor special.
A large chunk of its viewer number, as poor as it was, will be people lingering a few minutes after Strictly, or turning up a few minutes early for Wallace and Gromit. They sandwiched it between things people would turn up to watch to pad the numbers.
yep that is exactly why they did it, to massage the numbers, so basically it's stil a dead duck no matter what they do, they can't polish this into anything more than a polished turd
No we only tuned in just for Wallace and Gromit, and DOCTOR WHO GIVES A SHIT was on when we switched the TV on. Havent watched Doctor Who ever since Matt Smith replaced David Tennant.
From the moment Peter Capaldi took over as Doctor Who, the series dropped off a cliff and into the abyss. The last good Doctor Who was Matt Smith. Programme is unwatchable now and no longer the REAL Doctor Who, and I have watched it since the very first episode with William Hartnell back in November 1963 when I was 15 years old. Wallace and Gromit was brilliant.
Capaldi was a great Doctor; you could tell he was doing everything he could to work with the atrocious writing of some episodes. Had they starred him during a time where the writing was better, one can only imagine how wonderful it'd have turned out.
Capaldi is an amazing actor who was given absolute crap to work with. He had maybe FIVE episodes that I would consider "great." The rest was awful, and that's Moffatt's fault. Remember "Danny Pink?" Or how about resurrecting the Brigadier as a flying Cyberman. Capaldi's final season was an utter travesty that ushered in this era of woke crap in Doctor Who. And I don't want to hear from the "Missy" fans, SHE WAS TERRIBLE.
@@oc2phish07 I thought I was old but true brother. I am the same generation. Maybe you did not hide behind the settee but I did. When they brought the Doctor back I thought Christopher Ecclestone did a pretty decent job. Matt Smith was okay too.
@@oc2phish07 I agree WHEN show quality dropped, but Capaldi was great. The crap he dealt with behind the scenes is just now coming out. Tennant and Smith had fun as the Doctor. Eccleston and Capaldi did NOT.
My son hasn’t seen any dr who since capaldi and within minutes of seeing this trash he said “what’s this rubbish, this isn’t dr who. It looks like some straight to dvd b movie and the actings dreadful”. Straight afterwards we saw the new Wallace and gromit movie and it was amazing and made us realise that dr who is so badly written that it’s not even worth watching 1 second if it. Dr who is totally dead and RTD has lost any form of writing skills, he writes stories like a child. And they showed a teaser trailer of Dr who season 2 at the end of the Christmas not-so-special and there was no reaction what so ever from my family, no excitement, no comments - says it all really doesn’t it.
What happened to RTD man. A fair few years ago, he was a guest lecturer at my writing class at university in Manchester. He was such a kind, down to earth man who didn’t have any ego about his work, was happy to admit errors and had a genuine enthusiasm for our own work. When I see anything from this new Dr Who, I don’t recognise it as a work by RTD. His writing has totally disappeared up the backside of his own hubris and I don’t think he’ll ever come back to form
@@scaleofperspective6211 wow! That makes it even worse as you would have thought that the Christmas special would have been written by him as he’s the lead writer and show runner! 🤦♂️
Literally me, I had my back to the TV while eating dinner. I could hear Doctor Who and it sounded terrible. No one was really watching the show it was just on in the background. I don't even watch TV to be honest.
I watched it without the luxury of ignoring it as it played in the background. I don't remember what happened in it - some sad woman was for some reason the source of all earth's joy? Also the sfx were shit and nothing made sense and nobody was remotely likeable
Gavin and Stacey was pushed quite heavily so I’m not surprised it did well. Walace and Grommet wasn’t pushed so much but didn’t need it because everyone knows it’s good family entertainment. Dr Who has destroyed itself on the woke hill.
I spared myself any pain this Christmas..I learned my lesson in last years Doctor Who atrocity ...the iconic british tv show show we all knew as Doctor Who is ded ...the abomination that's left in its place just dosent have the sense to lie down
For the life of me I cannot fathom why the Doctor Who cast and crew are actively trying to destroy the entire legacy of this once great series. The numbers aren't turning around, and yet they insist on doubling & tripling down.
Same thing Disney did to Star Wars and Amazon is trying to do with LoTRs. They can't make good stories so they profit off and destroy the works of better people who came before.
Last night me and my sister watched The Doctor The Widow and The Wardrobe I'm so sad to see what Doctor Who a show I love turn out to be not fun and exciting anymore
@@cjandrews6967 Whenever you criticise Doctor Who you get accused of being all kinds of phobia haters. For me it was never about the actors, Jodie Whitaker could have been a great Doctor but was never given the storylines. This new guy could be a great doctor. But he'll never be given the storylines. Its about the writing, not about the actors or what gender or race they represent. For me its always about poor storylines. People writing stories who can't write.
The show has gone so far up it's own hind end that it should be allowed to slide into obscutity. They have ruined it. People don't want to be repeatedly hit over the head with a PC clipboard on Christmas or any other day.
I was round my mums, she insisted on watching, as it was tradition. I've not spent xmas with her in 15 years, and shes not seen any since Matt Smith..... "Oh! What have they done? " she cringed. Which said it all to me. Ratings wise, It was probably the weather 👀
@@scaleofperspective6211 I think it's pretty obvious that he means an old tradition that they used to have together. She last saw it with him when it was Matt Smith... Doesn't take a genius to figure it out does it?
I’d forgotten Dr. Who was still a thing. I’m trying to think of a franchise from the 1980s/1990s which haven’t been killed off to please an audience which doesn’t exist.
I watched the repeat of a Dr Who series in which the Doctor was played by Patrick Troughton. It was originally shown when I was a teenager. Brilliant show. Good plot, great actor playing the Doctor. It was originally shown when the BBC produced good quality programmes. Yes, there was such a time, but you have to be very old to remember those days.
I'm 68, and can just remember the first ever episode, the day after the Kennedy shooting, and it was repeated the following week... Good old black and white times... In my opinion, Tom Baker was the best Doctor, with the classic story of the Genesis of the Daleks as the best ever story... I think Dr Who has been going slowly downhill, ever since Tom Baker finished...
@@richardruff8712 I'm a bit younger (55) but I agree with you about Tom Baker. Happily his tenure coincided with a large part of my childhood. Not born or too young to remember the b&w stories during their original run, but have seen all those still in existence since. Peter Davison and Colin Baker were pretty good too I think, after shaky starts. It was when Sylvester McCoy took over the role it became a bit too silly for my liking. The reboot in 2005 had potential, but as time went on I felt it was becoming more like an episode of Casualty or Eastenders than Doctor Who and drifted away pretty quickly. Less science fiction storytelling and more emotional soap opera. It's now a travesty of its former self.
@@Jagaroth_ I guess that, if you ask 100 people, you will get 100 different answers... I was born in 1956, and can vaguely recall the 1966 World Cup Final... When the Dr Who started, many of us thought that William Hartnell was a strange choice as the first Doctor, but he gradually ' grew ' on us... I was never convinced with Troughton or Pertwee, but saw a special type of quirky ' quality ' about Tom Baker... Probably the best representation of what a ' renegade ' Time Lord was supposed to be... Of course, we are looking back, wearing our Rose tinted spectacles again... Through the entire universe of Dr Who characters, IMO the best actor has to be the great Michael Wisher as the first Davros... Incredible acting there...
@@richardruff8712 Yeah, a big part of it is what era of the show you grew up with I think. I suppose when William Hartnell was chosen for the role the concept of it continuing with different actors playing the same part wouldn't have existed. I warmed to the Pertwee era over the years, watching all the VHS video releases during the 1990's. My sister is seventeen years younger than me and as a curious child she'd wander into my room to see what I was doing - often watching DW videos, so I kinda influenced her interest in it, as she loves Tom too...haha. I was shocked as an eleven year old when Peter Davison took over from Tom, having only seen him in All Creatures Great And Small before. He and Colin Baker grew on me over time, and it was a shame they didn't have more time to embed themselves in the role as Tom did. Michael Wisher's Davros was the best - just the right amount of menace without going overboard. I remember watching Carnival Of Monsters for the first time and thinking that I've heard Kalik's voice somewhere before - only much later finding out it was him. Michael Sheard is one of my favourite recurring DW actors too, especially his short-lived role in Pyramids Of Mars. Ah, the memories.
When your golden goose of a sci-fi is doing worse than some crappy soap opera, it's time to change course. If the BBC actually cares about the future of Doctor Who, they'd take it off Russell T. Davies' lot and find a new production group to make the show.
You'd need to do more than just get rid of Russell T. Davies. You would need to erase everything done with the show since Chris Chibnall and Jodie's equally awful run. I don't care how. Even if it's something as cliche as Peter Capaldi's Doctor waking up in bed and declaring it was all a dream. But of course, that'll never happen. Much like with the Disney Sequel Trilogy, they will never admit towards their own mistakes, as it would do nothing but prove all those ''toxic'' and ''bigoted'' fanboys were right.
@@death-king1834 "Peter Capaldi's Doctor waking up in bed and declaring it was all a dream." - Yeah, I think it is fair to put exactly as much effort into repairing doctor who as they put into destroying its lore. A fair few sci-fi franchises are going to undergo de-canonisation and "It all happened in a alternate time line" revisions. The material is so bad it's impossible to keep.
Think you might be right, it could be time. Russel obviously surrounds himself with 'dinner party' friends who tell him it's wonderful. It isn't. He's alienated his core audience. Time to go Russel. Needs to be a not woked-obsessed adventure horror again without the sermons.
@@bewmdogg this kind of stuff is effecting the gaming industry aswell forced politics and agendas in areas they originally shouldn't be. funny when they spend millions on development and then wonder why their game didnt pan out the way it did.
@@Argeaux2No accounting for taste, I guess. Women just go along with whatever they're told is the status quo anyway so your opinion doesn't really mean much.
Doctor Who special got 4.11m viewers. Gavin and Stacey special got over 12m. Wallace and Gromit special got nearly 10m. Don't tell me viewing habits changed and that's why it's OK for Doctor Who ratings to be in a crater. Viewing habits are exactly the same as they've always been - if people really want to watch something, they will.
see, they are still there!!! some of the diehard fans of the new version think 4 mil is a success!! nah! especially when everyone made the effort to tune into Wallace straight after Doctor Who :)
@ so the people behind doctor who can’t make claims that people are busy etc. because they were IN when who was on! but didn’t bother to watch! But gave time for Wallace and Gromit :) which I thought was great
@@Gibson1976uk All those that actually liked the last season will say 4.11 million is a great rating because its 2 million higher than what the season 1 episodes were getting. They are wrong off-course. The rating is only higher because its Christmas, and we would expect more people to watch TV on Christmas Day.
Yes exactly. It shows there is an audience who will watch live if its any good and something they want to see. It was exactly this way in the Tennant and Smith eras. No one wanted to wait to see it, they saw it as soon as possible. The fact it got more or less 4 million on Christmas day, with a captive tv audience, all in the house watching tv is pathetic. And doubly so when a few hours later Gavin and Stacy get three times as many viewers. If Doctor Who was well written with a charismatic lead, as it was when it returned in 2005 it would still be getting high ratings. All this, people watch it differently, online and recorded etc is also proven utter crap as those extra numbers do not add that much more to the live figures, in all cases its still less than live views.
Those timings on that printed thing are wrong! Dr Who was on at 5.10pm not 6.10. I had a reminder set for Wallis & Gromit which started at 6.10pm - when the announcement popped up on my screen I clicked it - only to be on BBC1 before the finish of Dr WhatTheF*** - a programme I had avoided like the plague! So I suppose I was counted in one of those viewers of Dr W!
I don't blame you. Those first two episodes were absolute sh*t, it did get better after that but those two were most certainly not a good start to the series
Had some good parts I thought but as the doctor just wastes it constantly with the camp David act. We get it your gay we don't need to keep hearing about it
Back in the classic era, scripts were commissioned from a wide pool of writers, nowadays it just seems to be either RTD or Steven Moffat writing them, and they've never been any great talent, in all honesty.
Its been on longer than that! It used to be two separate shows. Strictly Ballroom, and Come Dancing. A lot of them used to go out really late at night as well...back in the day. Its been on so long people forgot it was there. The Goodies did a number of send ups and mockery of it back in the 70s when they are the previous versions of Strictly were well known. In the end they dropped it as no one was watching it at all. Some years later they bring it back as Strictly Come Dancing, merging both old shows into one and creating the stagnant, Saturday night bore fest you mention. The BBC was mining its past for new shows, and so we got Doctor Who back on screen in 2005 and it was popular when well written and cast properly. They were even talking of bringing back the Generation Game as well at this point. Two versions were tried and were so bad the pilots were never released. One had Miranda Hart as host, and the other version had those two lesbians, Mel and Sue from Bake Off....The BBC are utterly bereft of ideas, creativity and quality writing....and its even worse today....
He literally cried within 20 mins! 😂 Question: How far in advance do they film the Christmas special? Surely they should be well into script and pre-production right now for Christmas 2025? And, yet…not a word. Nothing. Zip. Nada. And, we know RTD, he’d be shouting about next Christmas from the rooftops if it was well under way. So, we don’t have to wait to hear whether Disney/BBC are going ahead with S3 to know whether the show has a future. We just just have to measure the deafening silence around an, as yet, non-existent Christmas 2025 episode.
What? They are actually still making this crap? Why? I think Tom Baker was the last Dr Who I regularly watched. I got a scarf just like his knitted for me, I loved it. Lost it in the end.
Here’s a kicker! When I was on BT Internet, even if you recorded a BBC programme on the BT Box, when you go to watch it, it takes you to IPlayer to watch it! Is that how the BBC are inflating their viewing figures to justify their Licence Fee?
It was put between two shows that were getting views. TVs were left on between. No one watched it and the people with the money know it. This stuff is dead, it just takes a few years for a big ship to change course.
I've been watching Dr Who since the early 70s and it's had it's ups and downs for me with some actors and writers just failing to hit the mark, but I kept coming back and continued the journey after it's original reboot. I started to lose faith in the show and the writers with Jodie, but I still watched it and gave it a chance. I tried watching the latest incarnation of Dr Who but each time I just ended up turning it off. Everyone has their own opinions, but for me it's just become boring preachy ideology infused crap that seems too far away from what I remember Dr Who being about to interest me.
The Daily Mail TV Critic gave Dr Who a 5 star rating out of five and also said how wonderful the episode was and Gatwa had the biggest smile since Tom Baker, when Gatwa is not fit to lick Tom Bakers shoe's. He also said it brilliant because it had not been Disneyfied.
“The-Powers-That-Be” in Doctor Who need to open a new season with Peter Capaldi waking up from a sleep and telling all his crazy dream that recaps everything from Capaldi’s last episode.
By fans do you mean all fans ? I didn't watch Joy to the World Christmas night. The family get together on the day. We eat, drink, talked and played monopoly. We don't watch television or listen to music or the radio. I've since watched Joy to the World on iplayer and I loved it especially the ending. For Steven Moffat to include Bethlehem and the 3 wise men was just great writing I loved it. The BBC could do with getting rid of Disney's money.
@@NoNeed2No I was asking the original commenter what exactly they felt was pointless about the episode, please, be respectful and do not answer questions that clearly do not invite you to replace another person's opinion with your own.
@@MrHReviewsAre you joking? The loathsome BBC has been exposed as liars and manipulators (not to mention, paedo-enablers) for years now. Anyone who takes a statement from the BBC as fact clearly believes magic beans can be purchased...
The fact that an inane show like Gavin and Stacey topped the Christmas day viewing tells one all one needs to know about the quality of BBC programming. Thank f**k I do not pay them a bloody penny, they are not worth it at all, I mean there was literally nothing but absolute crap on that entire list....
The best thing on Dr Who was the remastered "The War Games from 1969 with Patrick Troughton. I stopped watching Dr Who in 2024 when it became a very poor fantasy rather than science fiction .Managed to watch 8 minutes of Space Babies and 4 minutes of The Devil's Chord .Having watched all previous since William Hartnell started in 1963 ,truly an end of an era. Great to watch Wallace and Gromit some of the best viewing over the holiday .
On the plus side Wallace and Gromit was fantastic..
How about Wallace and Gromit just take over Doctor Who, pretty sure people would actually watch it.
Yes it was. So glad they used a voice actor that sounded like Peter Sallis.
@@markenetubeI totally forgot he had passed away until I saw the end credits and was impressed.
Apart from the DEI policewoman storyline that wasn't needed.
I literally caught the last 10 minutes of the Who special, just because I was waiting for Wallace and Gromit
Stopped watching it years ago, Because Like you rightly said ,its NOT Dr Who anymore, its something Not Dr Who.
And what is Doctor Who for you? Insane adventures and cheesy fun? That was the RTD era with a bit or Buffy.
@@mayotango1317yes
@mayotango1317 I like my doctor who gayer than a bbc undergraduate, and as woke as .. well a bbc undergraduate. 😮
@@mayotango1317It's more to do with the character of the actors, and the absence of political messaging. YMMV.
@@user-yl1xy5eg7b I think RTD had more political message before. Even Malcolm Hulke and Andrew Cartmel had more political message in classic Who.
The only thing that would get me to tune in again would be to watch the Daleks exterminate the Doctor and bring this sorry mess they’ve made to an end.
Even Davros has been ruined. 😕
have Missy (The Master) return in her TARDIS zap The Doctor and force a regeneration when The Doctor is prancing around
'moan the daleks
Ahh, you want the Nazis to win. That tracks
This would be awesome! Would love for Who to continue but in the pre-woke format. Surely the idiots running it must see that going down this path leads to ratings failure and more negative feedback than positive.
Came here to see Wallace and Gromit praise. Was not disappointed.
Yeah, it was brilliant.
The bloke voicing Wallace did a fantastic job I thought. R.I.P Peter Sallis.
@Bushismetal he did an amazing job 👏
R.I.P Doctor who. Once great. Now dross.
I disagree, and The Christmas special wasn't even that bad.
No more regeneration after 13 only 12 no more no less like the star signs
@Diogo85depends on how you define bad 😂
Please, shut up.
@adam8892 Dav-dross 🤣
As a sci fi fan, I cannot bring myself to watch Dr Who since it became the BBC's premier virtue signalling vehicle.
My gay cousin and his black gay friend loathe it.
Unfortunately these days writers, directors and producers are too busy being politically correct to come up with good writing, great characters and to find good actors. Pearl Mackie was fabulous as Bill Potts. Which shows they CAN do it.
I find it a terrible shame. Star Wars is suffering the same fate. Skeleton Crew is surprisingly good, but The Acolyte was dreadful. And all of Amandla Stenberg's rap videos can't change that.
Everything Woke turns to 💩....
So you’ve never watched any episode.
@@pahaynes1The only thing more tedious than over-woke is anti-woke.
@@zoetropo1 The Joy character in the episode literally accused the Doctor of mansplaining and had the hotel owner agree with her, that is political messaging that takes the immersion out, normal people aren't like that, it was the same with Rose and Donna during the 50th anniversary, saying that the Doctor was smarter when he was a woman, this stuff is very insulting to viewers, things like that is why people are quitting and boycotting the show, they're trying to push the propaganda of leftwing university students with rich parents
I remember when the Christmas special was something I looked forward to. Seems like another life.
Exactly. So sad.
I remember when they didn't do Christmas specials.
Or alt/verse.
I remember when the tv was worth turning on at Christmas. Missthose days
Personally, I thought last year's Christmas Special was okay. Definitely no A Christmas Carol or Last Christmas but I've seen worse. Like Voyage of the Damned which was dire. But then that was under RTD's watch as well. I've still to watch this year's but I can't pretend my expectations are going to be too high.
Crushed by a plasticine dog, James Corden and King Charles :D
I LOVE your reply. 👍
Sad really
and pokemon
WHEN this thing masquerading as "Doctor Who" is finally cancelled, let it be well remembered that it did NOT die but was murdered. A big difference.
What?
It's crap
That doesn't make sense, @sailor_gaia.
@@Foebane72 What I meant is that when the show is eventually cancelled (I mean, it's only a matter of time, no pun intended), it will not be because it was out of ideas or it's concept was tired and played out with audiences, like others. It will be because it was actively murdered by it's creators, injecting stuff few wanted repeatedly, against the will of the long-term fanbase. I hope that makes more sense. Sorry for any confusion in my wording. It is sad to see what is happening to what was a great show until about a couple of years ago.
@@sailor_gaia The show WILL die, as the BBC spent years injecting DEI stuff into it, and they're certainly NOT about to backpedal now, just because the majority of people they're not going after are not interested.
I used to love Dr. Who back in the day, when it was entertainment rather than sermons. I got fed up of being preached to every week. Sadly that happens in too many TV shows and movies nowadays. Just give me a few hours of escapism!
Hartnell’s 1960s Doctor gave sermons non-stop.
Dude, I love your stuff, but honestly, I was a doctor who fan way back with Jon Pertwee and this Show is just dead to me. It died. after Peter Capaldi. and even then Capaldi was hit or miss at best.
Honestly, my biggest problem with Peter Capaldi is that he wasn't John Hurt. Swap Capaldi and Hurt around and I'd be calling Series 8 and 9 two of the greatest seasons in Doctor Who history. I wouldn't change anything else about them, except the guitar and sonic sunglasses (which on Hurt would have worked perfectly as just regular reading glasses). I might even highly praise Series 10 too, although I didn't make it that far because Capaldi pissed me off so much and even in this alternate reality, there's no guarantee that Hurt lived long enough to do it.
when they let Capaldi 'off the leash' a bit and gave him some good "grandstanding theatre style oratory" he Excelled!!
I quit about half way through Capaldi’s run and I’ve been watching it since Jon Pertwee. I even watched the whole Sylvester McCoy run but it’s just not for me anymore.
@@tallywhacker75 I hear you man.
@@runtsgalMcCoy had some great stories in his second and third seasons, this current drivel is for very few!
When a plasticine dog comes out of retirement, dusts himself off, and wipes the floor with your over promoted DEI junk, you must see the game is up. Narrowly beating a soap that has been running since the mid-80s.
I heard that was full of Ethnic characters
@@Martinw_909 Eastenders? Not seen it in years. But,they tick every box possible.
@@never2late_mtb349 EastEnders was AWESOME once upon a time, much better than that Corrie crap.
Dr. Who Cares.
From Dr Who to Dr What the F*ck?
Yes, mate, could’ve said it better myself 👍
@@JohnDoe-rn6pzYou could've? Why didn't you then?
from BEING the Doctor
to NEEDING a doctor!
Nurse what
Doctor Why?
I made the mistake of reading the review in the Guardian this morning. The reviewer, who I suspect has just been promoted from tea-lady to culture editor, gave it 5 stars and considers it to be the greatest episode of Dr Who ever produced, while Gatwa should now be considered a god. Shills have now taken over the planet.
Shills get the bills... at least till the money runs out. x)
the guardian exists as a guide to just how insane the left are.
That'll learn ye.
Its ok. There are plenty of idiots out there that think this version of Doctor Who is the best its ever been. All you can say is they must watch some utter crap for the rest of their entertainment. And how this version can be better than stuff like Pyramids of Mars, Inferno, Impossible Planet, and the truly fantastic Time of the Angels Matt Smiths first season 2 parter is utterly ridiculous. These people who think like this are truly deluded.
I'd say your first mistake was reading the Guardian.
*Last Christmas I went and touched grass, the very next day, The Doctor went gay. This year to save Gatwa from tears, I won't be watching Christmas special!* 🎄
Very good...I used to do a version of this too, sending up George Michael. He made a career out of appealing to women and kept his sexuality a secret. The minute he came out his career tanked and he fell into the sleaze and drugs and controversy that tainted his final years. I used to sing a version to my ex as she was a huge George fan, and she used to laugh till she cried...Last Christmas I gave you my heart....But the very next day, I came out as gay....This year to save me from que*rs, I'm going to give it to some one straight......etc...
@Simon-xc5oy
*Last Christmas I gave you my arse, the very next day you came out as gay, this year after a couple of beers, I'll give it to no one special!* 😮
Brilliant.
And yes, I sang this in my head while reading 😂
They'll come for fallout next.
These people know no joy and misery loves company.
Imagine having to make everything of your personality your sexual identity. Sad really. These people need hobbies.
RTD: Who wants a Dr. Who Rainbow-Christmas Special? Audience: ....
Only if it has Bungle, Zippy and George in it!😂
That new doctor makes my skin crawl - weird and creepy beyond belief 🤢
Racist and homophobic, are you, @vincentlauria7857?
We sat through the end of it to watch Wallace & Gromit straight after. My dad's reaction of “That looked bloody awful” was the highlight of what we saw. Luckily Aardman took away the bad taste.
It was bloody awful.
🤣👍
My dad's reaction a few years ago to what they've done. "It's not the Doctor Who we used to watch".
Was there a new W&G?
Because you watched the last few seconds of it prior to Wallace & Gromit, the BBC would probably count that in their ratings as a "technical viewer" ;)
Had this video popped up, I wouldn't have even realized there was a new Doctor Whoke Christmas special.
Dude, Dr Who is lame as fuck, but calling it “Dr Whoke” is a thousand times cringier than the show itself, you absolute penis
Dr Who use to be a family wide event for us all. Past few years it hasn't even come up in conversation with my younger siblings or older family members.
I didn't even know there was an Xmas special this year
Remember when doctor who got 10’million for a Christmas special
Yes. I do. And that was the modern era with catchup and Iplayer too. There are no excuses left for this travesty that has the Doctor Who, with turbo gay as the lead.
Those days are long gone
With the fragmentation of TV it’s impossible for 99% of TV shows to get that kind of ratings anymore.
@@crystal_english_himeji No its not. It was just proven by Gavin and Stacy and Wallace and Gromit! So if you make something people like, that they WANT to see, the audience will show up in droves. Wallace and Gromit have always done well, and so have most other Christmas Specials from other shows, over the past decades. Only Fools and Horses, Two Ronnies and stuff like that. Yes there used to be only 3 channels, but there were a lot less people in the UK back then too. So the message in all this is, leave out the woke crap, write something the vast majority can enjoy, all ages, sexes and faiths etc, and you get large viewing figures.
@Simon-xc5oy as if by magic, the viewers appeared! Only it's not magic, it's just good writing!
Worst Christmas tv ever, until next year tops it.
Low viewing figures. Who'd have thought? I mean an actor who said there wasn't enough dance routines in the programme and wanted to "destroy a monster with twerking".
Caught the end of this crap due to watching Wallace and Gromit, even catching the end of it, he still managed to cry
@@Ghostbustersfan01which from his perspective was more than a year long by the way
@scaleofperspective6211 Yeah but from the perspective of the audience (you know, the people who it's meant to be for) it was 3 times in an hour
@@NoNeed2No should the doctor just ignore all the dying innocent people around him then? Not saying he doesn't cry too much, but what should he have done in that situation
@@scaleofperspective6211 same thing he did at the end...
nothing because Nobody "Died" they just became something Different...
Such a terrible episode.
@xLionsxxSmithyx he didn't know they didn't die and was told otherwise until the very end
Dr who wanted its bud light moment ......and got it
Saw the last couple of minutes of Doctor Who waiting for Wallace and Gromit, and boy, that was enough to confirm I was right not to stick around after Capaldi was kicked out. New-New Who is truly embarrassing.
Doctor Who is beyond dead. It pretty much died with Jodie and Chris Chibnall's horrible run. And now under RTD, it's nothing more but a shambling rotting zomibe, just begging to be put out of it's pathetic misery. I've said it before, but for me personally, Doctor Who ended back in 2013 with the Day of the Doctor special.
I didn't watch it, but my Parents did. The report I got back from them was more mincing about and crying from fruity gateau, as usual.
A large chunk of its viewer number, as poor as it was, will be people lingering a few minutes after Strictly, or turning up a few minutes early for Wallace and Gromit. They sandwiched it between things people would turn up to watch to pad the numbers.
yep that is exactly why they did it, to massage the numbers, so basically it's stil a dead duck no matter what they do, they can't polish this into anything more than a polished turd
100% agreed and I bet RTD will say how wonderful his Agenda is working!
Why would I want to watch idiots dancing? What mind numbing poop 💩
4m for Strictly is abysmal. As was the show itself. Spoiler: The male cosplaying as a woman won.
Yeah me and my dad were waiting for Wallace and Gromit to come on BBC ONE. Sat through Doctor Who, waiting and my dad said "What a load of Shite." 😂
U still watch bbc
@@bbcisaids6727Imagine still watching the BBC in 2024
No we only tuned in just for Wallace and Gromit, and DOCTOR WHO GIVES A SHIT was on when we switched the TV on.
Havent watched Doctor Who ever since Matt Smith replaced David Tennant.
From the moment Peter Capaldi took over as Doctor Who, the series dropped off a cliff and into the abyss. The last good Doctor Who was Matt Smith. Programme is unwatchable now and no longer the REAL Doctor Who, and I have watched it since the very first episode with William Hartnell back in November 1963 when I was 15 years old. Wallace and Gromit was brilliant.
Capaldi was a great Doctor; you could tell he was doing everything he could to work with the atrocious writing of some episodes. Had they starred him during a time where the writing was better, one can only imagine how wonderful it'd have turned out.
Capaldi was a great Doctor, but hampered by bad writing.
Capaldi is an amazing actor who was given absolute crap to work with. He had maybe FIVE episodes that I would consider "great." The rest was awful, and that's Moffatt's fault. Remember "Danny Pink?" Or how about resurrecting the Brigadier as a flying Cyberman. Capaldi's final season was an utter travesty that ushered in this era of woke crap in Doctor Who. And I don't want to hear from the "Missy" fans, SHE WAS TERRIBLE.
@@oc2phish07 I thought I was old but true brother. I am the same generation. Maybe you did not hide behind the settee but I did. When they brought the Doctor back I thought Christopher Ecclestone did a pretty decent job. Matt Smith was okay too.
@@oc2phish07 I agree WHEN show quality dropped, but Capaldi was great. The crap he dealt with behind the scenes is just now coming out. Tennant and Smith had fun as the Doctor. Eccleston and Capaldi did NOT.
Doctor Who needs to be more gay said no one, EVER!
Dr up the wrongen
I want a lesbian trans Doctor who fights evil oppressive white people but loves Muslims and Hamas
@@makeitsonumberone1358😂😂😂😅
@@makeitsonumberone1358Dr arse bandit
Was gay enough with tenet
My son hasn’t seen any dr who since capaldi and within minutes of seeing this trash he said “what’s this rubbish, this isn’t dr who. It looks like some straight to dvd b movie and the actings dreadful”.
Straight afterwards we saw the new Wallace and gromit movie and it was amazing and made us realise that dr who is so badly written that it’s not even worth watching 1 second if it.
Dr who is totally dead and RTD has lost any form of writing skills, he writes stories like a child.
And they showed a teaser trailer of Dr who season 2 at the end of the Christmas not-so-special and there was no reaction what so ever from my family, no excitement, no comments - says it all really doesn’t it.
What happened to RTD man. A fair few years ago, he was a guest lecturer at my writing class at university in Manchester.
He was such a kind, down to earth man who didn’t have any ego about his work, was happy to admit errors and had a genuine enthusiasm for our own work.
When I see anything from this new Dr Who, I don’t recognise it as a work by RTD. His writing has totally disappeared up the backside of his own hubris and I don’t think he’ll ever come back to form
Davies didn't write it, it was Moffat, you nimrod.
Ladies and gentlemen, this episode was not, in fact, written by RTD
@@scaleofperspective6211 wow!
That makes it even worse as you would have thought that the Christmas special would have been written by him as he’s the lead writer and show runner! 🤦♂️
@@MR_THINQ just saying, I did not state any of that
Joy to the world, this show is toast.
No one wants to watch Russel's rent boy.
I wonder is it just Dr. Who that the BBC isn't releasing the audience appreciation for or is it all shows across the board.
I wonder how of those "viewers" just left the tv on BBC, because family was around etc ?
Yes it was on in my house, had to leave the room for fear of being sick 🤢
Literally me, I had my back to the TV while eating dinner. I could hear Doctor Who and it sounded terrible. No one was really watching the show it was just on in the background. I don't even watch TV to be honest.
I watched it without the luxury of ignoring it as it played in the background. I don't remember what happened in it - some sad woman was for some reason the source of all earth's joy? Also the sfx were shit and nothing made sense and nobody was remotely likeable
Literally played to itself in the background as we ate Christmas dinner!
Gavin and Stacey was pushed quite heavily so I’m not surprised it did well. Walace and Grommet wasn’t pushed so much but didn’t need it because everyone knows it’s good family entertainment. Dr Who has destroyed itself on the woke hill.
Actually W&G was pushed relentlessly with all the 'interludes' between programmes on the BBC
I spared myself any pain this Christmas..I learned my lesson in last years Doctor Who atrocity ...the iconic british tv show show we all knew as Doctor Who is ded ...the abomination that's left in its place just dosent have the sense to lie down
For the life of me I cannot fathom why the Doctor Who cast and crew are actively trying to destroy the entire legacy of this once great series. The numbers aren't turning around, and yet they insist on doubling & tripling down.
Because they are hoping for that "modern audience" to turn up
Same thing Disney did to Star Wars and Amazon is trying to do with LoTRs. They can't make good stories so they profit off and destroy the works of better people who came before.
It’s a religious obligation for them to proselytize.
@@TheSILENTBOB180 Right. We were told for every 'old' fan who left, 3-5 more would show up and take their place! 🤣
The same reason Disney killed the Skywalker Saga; they are more concerned with pushing an agenda than making entertainment.
Eastenders at height= 30m
Eastenders now= 4m
Needs axing!
Underrated comment of the day 👍
I have no idea how in the hell the likes of Eastenders or Coronation Street are still even around.
So does the BBC
>30m
at what point did literally more than half the population of the entire country watch Eastenders?
@@Martinw_909🤣👍
I couldn't watch Gavin and Stacey because it featured James Corden. Just can't stand him in anything.
It’s the only show I can watch him in.
In anything else, he drives me mad.
He's okay in the vacuum of space
@@adam8892 Corden wrote the bloody thing.
@@johntaylor6345 He is still obnoxious.
I watched the David Tennant Christmas invasion special. I couldn't bare to watch that crap last night.
Great intro episode … very Arthur Dent 😂😂
Last night me and my sister watched The Doctor The Widow and The Wardrobe I'm so sad to see what Doctor Who a show I love turn out to be not fun and exciting anymore
@@cjandrews6967 Whenever you criticise Doctor Who you get accused of being all kinds of phobia haters. For me it was never about the actors, Jodie Whitaker could have been a great Doctor but was never given the storylines. This new guy could be a great doctor. But he'll never be given the storylines. Its about the writing, not about the actors or what gender or race they represent. For me its always about poor storylines. People writing stories who can't write.
Yes, "Doctor Fruit", as my brother called it. I don't think Mr Gatwa is all that popular.
Fruity Gateau.
@kingrubbatiti1285 LOL. That's a good one, too 😆 🤣
Doctor fruit, love it 😂
@lewlewlaser037 Thanks, glad you appreciate it, Sir. 😆 🤣
@@bobsav76 That's what we call Him in my household 😆
The show has gone so far up it's own hind end that it should be allowed to slide into obscutity. They have ruined it. People don't want to be repeatedly hit over the head with a PC clipboard on Christmas or any other day.
I was round my mums, she insisted on watching, as it was tradition. I've not spent xmas with her in 15 years, and shes not seen any since Matt Smith.....
"Oh! What have they done? " she cringed. Which said it all to me.
Ratings wise, It was probably the weather 👀
It's nice you spent Xmas with her even if you did have to watch Dr WHY
"she insisted on watching, as it was tradition", "she's not seen any since Matt Smith"... uh huh
@@scaleofperspective6211 I think it's pretty obvious that he means an old tradition that they used to have together. She last saw it with him when it was Matt Smith... Doesn't take a genius to figure it out does it?
I’d forgotten Dr. Who was still a thing. I’m trying to think of a franchise from the 1980s/1990s which haven’t been killed off to please an audience which doesn’t exist.
Doctor Who is DOA.
And DEI.
Dr Who getting dumped fills me with Yuletide joy.
I watched the repeat of a Dr Who series in which the Doctor was played by Patrick Troughton. It was originally shown when I was a teenager. Brilliant show. Good plot, great actor playing the Doctor. It was originally shown when the BBC produced good quality programmes. Yes, there was such a time, but you have to be very old to remember those days.
I watched that too, when Dr who was Dr who! Didn't even waste my time watching the trailer for the 'new' one
I'm 68, and can just remember the first ever episode, the day after the Kennedy shooting, and it was repeated the following week... Good old black and white times... In my opinion, Tom Baker was the best Doctor, with the classic story of the Genesis of the Daleks as the best ever story... I think Dr Who has been going slowly downhill, ever since Tom Baker finished...
@@richardruff8712 I'm a bit younger (55) but I agree with you about Tom Baker. Happily his tenure coincided with a large part of my childhood. Not born or too young to remember the b&w stories during their original run, but have seen all those still in existence since. Peter Davison and Colin Baker were pretty good too I think, after shaky starts. It was when Sylvester McCoy took over the role it became a bit too silly for my liking. The reboot in 2005 had potential, but as time went on I felt it was becoming more like an episode of Casualty or Eastenders than Doctor Who and drifted away pretty quickly. Less science fiction storytelling and more emotional soap opera. It's now a travesty of its former self.
@@Jagaroth_ I guess that, if you ask 100 people, you will get 100 different answers... I was born in 1956, and can vaguely recall the 1966 World Cup Final... When the Dr Who started, many of us thought that William Hartnell was a strange choice as the first Doctor, but he gradually ' grew ' on us... I was never convinced with Troughton or Pertwee, but saw a special type of quirky ' quality ' about Tom Baker... Probably the best representation of what a ' renegade ' Time Lord was supposed to be... Of course, we are looking back, wearing our Rose tinted spectacles again... Through the entire universe of Dr Who characters, IMO the best actor has to be the great Michael Wisher as the first Davros... Incredible acting there...
@@richardruff8712 Yeah, a big part of it is what era of the show you grew up with I think. I suppose when William Hartnell was chosen for the role the concept of it continuing with different actors playing the same part wouldn't have existed. I warmed to the Pertwee era over the years, watching all the VHS video releases during the 1990's. My sister is seventeen years younger than me and as a curious child she'd wander into my room to see what I was doing - often watching DW videos, so I kinda influenced her interest in it, as she loves Tom too...haha. I was shocked as an eleven year old when Peter Davison took over from Tom, having only seen him in All Creatures Great And Small before. He and Colin Baker grew on me over time, and it was a shame they didn't have more time to embed themselves in the role as Tom did. Michael Wisher's Davros was the best - just the right amount of menace without going overboard. I remember watching Carnival Of Monsters for the first time and thinking that I've heard Kalik's voice somewhere before - only much later finding out it was him. Michael Sheard is one of my favourite recurring DW actors too, especially his short-lived role in Pyramids Of Mars. Ah, the memories.
When your golden goose of a sci-fi is doing worse than some crappy soap opera, it's time to change course.
If the BBC actually cares about the future of Doctor Who, they'd take it off Russell T. Davies' lot and find a new production group to make the show.
I would give it to Kudos. The production company that brought us Spooks and Hustle.
You'd need to do more than just get rid of Russell T. Davies. You would need to erase everything done with the show since Chris Chibnall and Jodie's equally awful run. I don't care how. Even if it's something as cliche as Peter Capaldi's Doctor waking up in bed and declaring it was all a dream. But of course, that'll never happen. Much like with the Disney Sequel Trilogy, they will never admit towards their own mistakes, as it would do nothing but prove all those ''toxic'' and ''bigoted'' fanboys were right.
2029 is the date BBC has given RTD control to
That also includes Ncutis contract with RTD (yep... 2029)
@@death-king1834 "Peter Capaldi's Doctor waking up in bed and declaring it was all a dream." - Yeah, I think it is fair to put exactly as much effort into repairing doctor who as they put into destroying its lore. A fair few sci-fi franchises are going to undergo de-canonisation and "It all happened in a alternate time line" revisions. The material is so bad it's impossible to keep.
Think you might be right, it could be time. Russel obviously surrounds himself with 'dinner party' friends who tell him it's wonderful. It isn't. He's alienated his core audience. Time to go Russel. Needs to be a not woked-obsessed adventure horror again without the sermons.
hilarious they are still trying to put that woke garbage on TV still. no one watched it lol
They're somehow still not learning that viewers don't like watching shit. Bizarre
@@bewmdogg this kind of stuff is effecting the gaming industry aswell forced politics and agendas in areas they originally shouldn't be. funny when they spend millions on development and then wonder why their game didnt pan out the way it did.
I watched it, and I enjoyed it.
I must admit, I do love a time paradox.
I got to explain the bootstraps paradox to my husband. Extra points for that.
@@Argeaux2No accounting for taste, I guess. Women just go along with whatever they're told is the status quo anyway so your opinion doesn't really mean much.
@@NoNeed2Nowhat the hell are you talking about, that's so disrespectful for literally no reason
The only sad thing about this is that there's still that many people watching.
I'm old enough to remember the Golden Age of Dr Who, the Holmes/Hinchcliffe era. It's so sad to see how far that show has fallen.
same
Was just too young for that, I started with Destiny and my dad watched from the very first episode. Neither of us would touch it with a barge pole.
Doctor Who special got 4.11m viewers. Gavin and Stacey special got over 12m. Wallace and Gromit special got nearly 10m.
Don't tell me viewing habits changed and that's why it's OK for Doctor Who ratings to be in a crater. Viewing habits are exactly the same as they've always been - if people really want to watch something, they will.
see, they are still there!!! some of the diehard fans of the new version think 4 mil is a success!! nah! especially when everyone made the effort to tune into Wallace straight after Doctor Who :)
@@Gibson1976uk Exactly mate. Plenty of other dramas are getting 6 million or more easily.
@ so the people behind doctor who can’t make claims that people are busy etc. because they were IN when who was on! but didn’t bother to watch! But gave time for Wallace and Gromit :) which I thought was great
@@Gibson1976uk All those that actually liked the last season will say 4.11 million is a great rating because its 2 million higher than what the season 1 episodes were getting. They are wrong off-course. The rating is only higher because its Christmas, and we would expect more people to watch TV on Christmas Day.
Yes exactly. It shows there is an audience who will watch live if its any good and something they want to see. It was exactly this way in the Tennant and Smith eras. No one wanted to wait to see it, they saw it as soon as possible. The fact it got more or less 4 million on Christmas day, with a captive tv audience, all in the house watching tv is pathetic. And doubly so when a few hours later Gavin and Stacy get three times as many viewers. If Doctor Who was well written with a charismatic lead, as it was when it returned in 2005 it would still be getting high ratings. All this, people watch it differently, online and recorded etc is also proven utter crap as those extra numbers do not add that much more to the live figures, in all cases its still less than live views.
Watched it,and thought it was complete crap, and im pleased to say cancellation could be looming, still,on the+side, Wallace and Gromit was awesome!
Those timings on that printed thing are wrong! Dr Who was on at 5.10pm not 6.10. I had a reminder set for Wallis & Gromit which started at 6.10pm - when the announcement popped up on my screen I clicked it - only to be on BBC1 before the finish of Dr WhatTheF*** - a programme I had avoided like the plague! So I suppose I was counted in one of those viewers of Dr W!
It‘s the BBC‘s own website!!!!
Guess they should rename it to "Audience Where?"
What puzzles me is why anyone watches anything broadcast on TV.
Half of those Dr Who figures will have been people switching on to the channel to make sure they didn't miss Wallace and Grommit
It will drop drastically when the proper season start, with Christmas, telly is just left on with people not even watching.
Even if you cought the end waiting for W&G, it still counts as a view. Totally agree about the next season.
I stopped watching Dr Who with the "Space Babies" episode, never went back.
I don't blame you. Those first two episodes were absolute sh*t, it did get better after that but those two were most certainly not a good start to the series
Didn't they already do that with the Adipose during it's heyday?
Gave up watching Dr Who after Peter Capaldi left. Even cancelled the TV Licence this year as haven't watched any BBC since 2017
From the ratings it appears the next Doctor should be Wallace and Grommit.
But wich one will play the doctor? Hell, don't care! Good idea!
That would be awesome, tbh.
Or Nessa!
Wallace would be a cracking Doctor. Nessa as the companion and Gromit as K-9!
Wallace would be a cracking Doctor. Nessa as the companion and Gromit as K-9!
Had some good parts I thought but as the doctor just wastes it constantly with the camp David act. We get it your gay we don't need to keep hearing about it
YES YOU DO, BEING GAY IS HIS ENTIRE PERSONALITY, YOU MUST HEAR ABOUT IT!!!
When in the episode has he pointed out he was gay
@@scaleofperspective6211 Literally everything about him broadcasts that he's gay
@@scaleofperspective6211 you must be blind his whole persona screams gay constantly
@@NoNeed2No so never? You just mad that he acts the way this Doctor has always acted?
I so wanted it to be a ridiculous failure. Hurrah it is a ridiculous failure!
The issue is they have the special effects but the script is awful. What’s happened to the writing.
@@stephencooke401 yep it’s called ‘the last Jedi technique ‘
Back in the classic era, scripts were commissioned from a wide pool of writers, nowadays it just seems to be either RTD or Steven Moffat writing them, and they've never been any great talent, in all honesty.
The writers went Woke.
Hey, look! It's a Tardis. That makes it Dr. Who!!!
--how they think of the public
Litteraly doctor who... don't even recognise it any more.
It's the inclusion , the preaching , the message over a storyline - we are sick of it - when will they realise this
Wait, Doctor Who is still on? Bloody hell.
No, it really isn't. They've just attached the name to something completely unrelated, as far as I can tell.
A dancing show being on TV for 20 years straight says is the epitome of cultural stagnation.
Its been on longer than that! It used to be two separate shows. Strictly Ballroom, and Come Dancing. A lot of them used to go out really late at night as well...back in the day. Its been on so long people forgot it was there. The Goodies did a number of send ups and mockery of it back in the 70s when they are the previous versions of Strictly were well known. In the end they dropped it as no one was watching it at all. Some years later they bring it back as Strictly Come Dancing, merging both old shows into one and creating the stagnant, Saturday night bore fest you mention. The BBC was mining its past for new shows, and so we got Doctor Who back on screen in 2005 and it was popular when well written and cast properly. They were even talking of bringing back the Generation Game as well at this point. Two versions were tried and were so bad the pilots were never released. One had Miranda Hart as host, and the other version had those two lesbians, Mel and Sue from Bake Off....The BBC are utterly bereft of ideas, creativity and quality writing....and its even worse today....
He literally cried within 20 mins! 😂
Question: How far in advance do they film the Christmas special? Surely they should be well into script and pre-production right now for Christmas 2025? And, yet…not a word. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
And, we know RTD, he’d be shouting about next Christmas from the rooftops if it was well under way.
So, we don’t have to wait to hear whether Disney/BBC are going ahead with S3 to know whether the show has a future. We just just have to measure the deafening silence around an, as yet, non-existent Christmas 2025 episode.
Laughing at the ratings has been the only entertainment have had from the TV show formerly known as Dr Who in years.
Doctor Who lost its identity years ago, yesterday's episode was another disappointment. Least Wallace and Gromit was brilliant
What? They are actually still making this crap? Why? I think Tom Baker was the last Dr Who I regularly watched. I got a scarf just like his knitted for me, I loved it. Lost it in the end.
Here’s a kicker! When I was on BT Internet, even if you recorded a BBC programme on the BT Box, when you go to watch it, it takes you to IPlayer to watch it!
Is that how the BBC are inflating their viewing figures to justify their Licence Fee?
They probably tried to piggyback W&G figures onto Dr Poo, and hoped no-one would notice! Except everyone did😂
To be honest I had expected the numbers to be even lower. And NO. I didn't watch it.
It was put between two shows that were getting views. TVs were left on between. No one watched it and the people with the money know it. This stuff is dead, it just takes a few years for a big ship to change course.
It was placed in between two popular programs for a good reason. If you didn’t switch channels quick enough, it still counts as a view.
@@thekitowl True. Plus they put it on BBC 1 and 3 AND iplayer...and 4.11 is the best they could get? The show is so dead!
I've been watching Dr Who since the early 70s and it's had it's ups and downs for me with some actors and writers just failing to hit the mark, but I kept coming back and continued the journey after it's original reboot. I started to lose faith in the show and the writers with Jodie, but I still watched it and gave it a chance. I tried watching the latest incarnation of Dr Who but each time I just ended up turning it off. Everyone has their own opinions, but for me it's just become boring preachy ideology infused crap that seems too far away from what I remember Dr Who being about to interest me.
If I were them I'd find another actor for the next Doctor.
His ‘rodeo the train’ face will haunt me forever 😅🙈
Indiana Jones was on TV and me and my dad watched that instead 😂
It was so sugary and over saccharined crap I went into a diabetic coma
Didn’t even know this series was still going. Another dead franchise sacrificed on the altar of inclusiveness.
The Daily Mail TV Critic gave Dr Who a 5 star rating out of five and also said how wonderful the episode was and Gatwa had the biggest smile since Tom Baker, when Gatwa is not fit to lick Tom Bakers shoe's. He also said it brilliant because it had not been Disneyfied.
Never even noticed there was one: the show has been dead for years since Capaldi left, and the zombie thing shambling around now is pointless.
“The-Powers-That-Be” in Doctor Who need to open a new season with Peter Capaldi waking up from a sleep and telling all his crazy dream that recaps everything from Capaldi’s last episode.
Replace Capaildi with Mcgann and id 100% agree with you
By fans do you mean all fans ? I didn't watch Joy to the World Christmas night. The family get together on the day. We eat, drink, talked and played monopoly. We don't watch television or listen to music or the radio. I've since watched Joy to the World on iplayer and I loved it especially the ending. For Steven Moffat to include Bethlehem and the 3 wise men was just great writing
I loved it. The BBC could do with getting rid of Disney's money.
12 million watching gavin and stacy, and we wonder why the country is like it is.
Dr Who looks just like all recent adverts on television. The same common denominator.
Me and my fiancé watched it live and my only thought by the end was "what was the point?"
The point of what?
@scaleofperspective6211 this gay show
@@NoNeed2No does not answer my question, try again
@@scaleofperspective6211 There is no point to this show. It does answer your question, you're just mad about the answer.
@@NoNeed2No I was asking the original commenter what exactly they felt was pointless about the episode, please, be respectful and do not answer questions that clearly do not invite you to replace another person's opinion with your own.
Wallace and gromit started at 6.15pm, dr who was the show before it.
So those show timings are wrong on the website.
On the BBC's own website, Christ, that's alarming
@@MrHReviewsAre you joking? The loathsome BBC has been exposed as liars and manipulators (not to mention, paedo-enablers) for years now. Anyone who takes a statement from the BBC as fact clearly believes magic beans can be purchased...
Am I joking about what?
They're still wasting money on that show? Wow, they're gluttons for punishment, that thing died years ago.
@@Fuzzlewhumper strange people giving other strange people jobs. Defund the BBC.
Ended after capaldi left fir me 63 to 2017
Paul Mcgann was the last doctor.
The fact that an inane show like Gavin and Stacey topped the Christmas day viewing tells one all one needs to know about the quality of BBC programming. Thank f**k I do not pay them a bloody penny, they are not worth it at all, I mean there was literally nothing but absolute crap on that entire list....
I really miss Dr. Who and cant understand why we must endure another year of this imposter?
In schedule, the 'c' is silent!
I care so little for Who now I didn't even know there was an Xmas episode
I’m a doctor who fan and I was very disappointed by this episode I can’t lie
The best thing on Dr Who was the remastered "The War Games from 1969 with Patrick Troughton. I stopped watching Dr Who in 2024 when it became a very poor fantasy rather than science fiction .Managed to watch 8 minutes of Space Babies and 4 minutes of The Devil's Chord .Having watched all previous since William Hartnell started in 1963 ,truly an end of an era. Great to watch Wallace and Gromit some of the best viewing over the holiday .