Commenting on this video because it's the most recent one and I hope you see this. Came upon your channel today and I've been pleasantly surprised. You deserve more attention and you will get it because your content is top quality and your style is good. Keep doing what you're doing, I'm subscribing and more will definitely follow.
If only my gym had "open gym" time so I could lift again. I'm stuck doing the programmed WOD if I go there. TIme to build my garage gym so this never happens again.
I swear to god, I've learned so much more through your succinct videos than I have over months through some "professionals" out there. From all of us tall, long appendaged peeps out in UA-cam land...keep doing the lords work brother. It certainly makes a difference! Thank You!
Such a great video! Actually learned quite a bit here and it’s RARE I say that these days. Crazy how much bar force there is at extension and catch. Really agree with your analysis on all of this as well. Good shit dude!
Rugby AND oly lifting? This is the best fucking channel, gonna be using this video to explain the benefits of oly. That try at 2:15 was absoloutely wild, stepped the hell out of that ginger lad.
aha, it just looked like a victory dive to me, didn't notice the posts in the background. Cool that you've got an actual rugby field, the American in my club said he had to play on gridiron pitches all through high school.
Excellent videos. Your ability to clearly communicate your thought process to the viewer allows them/us to benefit so much more than if only the conclusion were delivered. Thank you for making these!
Would love to watch a separate video on your "suggestions" part here 3:56 Cause I'm not a fan of devoting too much time to learning technique of a snatch, but can for example C&J and what other accessories I might be able to utilize to train similar qualities to WL
Great vid. As a throws coach, I can see the relationship between the catch and the delivery phase in the shot. After the move across the ring, the thrower catches the momentum of his/ her body and implement and uses the block to translate the caught force into the implement along with the triple extension.. Many throwers will drive over their block and I can equate this to dropping the bar during the catch. Will probably watch this a few more times. Thanks
Bro - If I want to watch great lifting I go to HookGrip or ATG.. If I want to learn great information I go TO YOU!! You are the best online coach...ever.. No, really. No homo, bro.. You really are the best. Thanks for all you do.
People who underestimate what it takes to catch a big weight and the benefit such a stymulus could offer an athlete in their training have obviously never cleaned/snatched nowhere near "maximal" weight.
Duncan Thaw the problem is that the O-lifts are very technical! Most athletes do not do them correctly and an athletes time is about efficiency so with that being said, why would I teach an athlete O lifts when I can do simpler exercises to achieve a common goal such as being faster, stronger and quicker!
I'm glad you included rugby in your clips. I wouldn't have pursued Olympic style lifting in my training if it wasn't for rugby. Another excellent video. Thanks!
I'm a boxing practitioner and since I began practicing the power clean the power of my punches has drastically increased. I wasn't even aware I had access to this power untill I tried it and it fell way different than it did before I started barbell training.
Awesome vid. Ive always thought that one of the biggest benefits to the full lifts is the courage and determination gained by going under. It cant be measured in graphs, or quantified, but impacts the athlete's mindset like nothing else can. Subscribed!
I mean it. The ratio of useful/info per min, or the flux of usefulness per second literally (c'mon, not xD) gives me hard ons. Props³ for your content, Zack.
A quote from the Kawamori et al study "All vertical jump trials were performed on a 61 ⫻121.9- cm AMTI (Advanced Mechanical Technologies, Water-town, MA) forceplate. The warm-up protocol was based on work published by Kirksey et al. (19). All subjects per-formed 6 vertical jump trials (3 CMJ and 3 SJ). All vertical jumps were executed with hands on hip (8, 12) and were separated by 3 minutes’ rest. The SJ were all initiated from a position that represented the mid-thigh pull position used in the isometric tests." So no extra weight was used with CMJ and SJ, then it's no wonder, that they rated so low. Was designed, to produce that outcome.
Excellent video once again. Succinct, informative and well explained information. How long have you been coaching athletes? PS : God damn you're a lot stronger and faster than you look, mirin' hard
Another great vid Z!! I've been meaning to make something similar to help my classes understand the benefits of what were doing. Now I don't have to ;) Thanks brotha!!
As a thrower, I need to do weightlifting. Because throwing is a transference of power from the bottom to the top, as well as a snatch or clean and jerk. Not exactly the same, but very similar. Besides. It is not only about brute strength (powerlifting), but also for dexterity, agility and coordination. You test all of this for the real thing. In my case, I may have improved (even doubled) my brute strength. But my lack of dexterity and coordination has been an obstacle to increase my numbers in the throws. Reflected in my snatch and clean and jerk.
Great videos, I just found you and I subbed immediately. I was just wondering what you meant by eccentric force at catch. Is that the force of the athlete pulling themselves under the bar or the force of the bar pushing down on the athlete at the very top of the movement. If it is the latter I don't quite understand why this is so important other than maybe balancing the heavy weight. This could be negated by simply pausing and waiting for the "whip" to come out of the bar. The athlete surly does. not overhead or front squat that initial catch weight.
I'm working on building some programs and creating a website...stay tuned!!! For now just keep track of what you do and use the best strength programs available (5/3/1, juggeraut, etc.)
About the bar force vectors that were measured, did the article distinguish what direction each vector went? For instance, did it go up or out on the extension and down upon the athlete in the catch?
They measured the velocity of the bar and how it changed during the lift. Through whatever way they used, they were able to calculate the “weight of the barbell” at different parts of the lift. It’s hard for me to explain because I’m not a mathematician but I️ kinda understand it like at certain points of the lift there are certain forces at play. At those milliseconds, the bar weighs 280 or 250kg but they immediately fluctuate through a multitude of weights.
Didn’t know you played rugby, have you ever considered about making some videos specific for rugby training? I play myself and I think there is a void in good rugby training videos, other than the typical football style workouts. Thanks
SquatsAreFun what I️ mentioned at the end. A program that builds maximum strength, power, and endurance will be best. So one that utilizes traditional strength movements, plyometrics, heavier simple Olympic lift variants, and lighter more skillful Olympic variants.
Nice to see clips of rugby in the video. As a rugby player I want to train in the gym for rugby. I already train endurance and speed work outside of the gym. I want to gain power but don't know what to do. What would carry over to rugby and how would I train in the gym.
Y. Tho I played football and rugby, just doing normal strength training had a huge carry over, I also advise doing the Olympic lift training if you can.
Nate Asborn yes I'd love to try olympic lifting. It's very technical so it'd be a lot of work. I suppose strength and any resistance training in general would be good for any contact sport.
looked through your comments and i'm gonna be the first one to disagree. I don't want to be rude or anything cause alot of stuff you say is right otherwise i wasn't watching your videos. i don't think the catching is very important for people who do the olly lifts for strength. The catching position isn't a position where alot of athletes should be strong in. It's not specific to sports cause during there sport they are never into a similar postion. So i's not completely useless, cause eccentric work and rebounding out of the lifts from time to time can be a good stimulus, but majority of the lifts should be at or above 90°. I would be glad if you answer on this!
I do crossfit for conditioning and maybe in time I'll compete for shits and gigs I also do Bjj will these type of movements help me with Bjj ?? Any and responses welcome fellow strength seekers and fantastic video btw well done and thank you.
The argument from trainers or strength coaches who are against Olympic lifting is the exercise very technical. The risk of injury is high especially for athletes they spend time .Do you want him to become a good technique lifter or be explosive.? Hard sell.
It takes too much time to teach the lifts for all of those forces to mean anything. Football players do not have the time in their training schedules to learn a proper snatch. Plus, many strength and conditioning coaches don’t know how to teach them to that level.
Great points but olympic lifting is so incredibly technical and dangerous if done incorrectly. Nobody should attempt this stuff without proper coaching especially if you are starting in your 30’s or 40’s.
sarahdelano and this is why O lifts are not necessary for athletes! An athletes time should be about efficiency and effectiveness! If I can get the same effectiveness out of much simpler exercises then O lifts would prove to be obsolete!
Zack Telander when sinckler is on the other end I can see why haha How much of a rugby fan are you? It's a surprise considering that you're from the US haha
Eugene Poon I only recently started playing rugby. I played football growing up and I played division 1 lacrosse in college. I currently am the strength coach for a rugby team in Texas and it’s been a blast.
Eugene Poon they put me at wing because I’m decently fast and I have steps. but I like to make moves in the center of the pitch and run people over so I want to be like an 8 or so.
Commenting on this video because it's the most recent one and I hope you see this. Came upon your channel today and I've been pleasantly surprised. You deserve more attention and you will get it because your content is top quality and your style is good. Keep doing what you're doing, I'm subscribing and more will definitely follow.
Thank you!!! I am super grateful to have your attention and future attention. Feel free to DM me on instagram if you have any questions on training.
Hands down best Oly lifting channel on UA-cam.
If only my gym had "open gym" time so I could lift again. I'm stuck doing the programmed WOD if I go there. TIme to build my garage gym so this never happens again.
I swear to god, I've learned so much more through your succinct videos than I have over months through some "professionals" out there. From all of us tall, long appendaged peeps out in UA-cam land...keep doing the lords work brother. It certainly makes a difference! Thank You!
Long arm, long leg, short torso gang
Such a great video! Actually learned quite a bit here and it’s RARE I say that these days. Crazy how much bar force there is at extension and catch. Really agree with your analysis on all of this as well. Good shit dude!
Rugby AND oly lifting? This is the best fucking channel, gonna be using this video to explain the benefits of oly. That try at 2:15 was absoloutely wild, stepped the hell out of that ginger lad.
and by ginger i mean african american. I'm clearly blind.
stewie jackson sadly it wasn’t a try. I️ just tripped up like a lil bitch passing the ten. I️ had two tries that match tho.
aha, it just looked like a victory dive to me, didn't notice the posts in the background. Cool that you've got an actual rugby field, the American in my club said he had to play on gridiron pitches all through high school.
Excellent videos. Your ability to clearly communicate your thought process to the viewer allows them/us to benefit so much more than if only the conclusion were delivered. Thank you for making these!
Shanti Sommers that has always been my goal. Thank you for watching!
This was so interesting and wonderfully concise.
Wait you play rugby...instant sub. I play rugby too and enjoy everything dealing with sports performance
Would love to watch a separate video on your "suggestions" part here 3:56
Cause I'm not a fan of devoting too much time to learning technique of a snatch, but can for example C&J and what other accessories I might be able to utilize to train similar qualities to WL
Great vid. As a throws coach, I can see the relationship between the catch and the delivery phase in the shot. After the move across the ring, the thrower catches the momentum of his/ her body and implement and uses the block to translate the caught force into the implement along with the triple extension.. Many throwers will drive over their block and I can equate this to dropping the bar during the catch. Will probably watch this a few more times. Thanks
Bro - If I want to watch great lifting I go to HookGrip or ATG.. If I want to learn great information I go TO YOU!! You are the best online coach...ever.. No, really. No homo, bro.. You really are the best. Thanks for all you do.
NorwichGrad97 you’re far too kind, sir. ;)
People who underestimate what it takes to catch a big weight and the benefit such a stymulus could offer an athlete in their training have obviously never cleaned/snatched nowhere near "maximal" weight.
Duncan Thaw the problem is that the O-lifts are very technical! Most athletes do not do them correctly and an athletes time is about efficiency so with that being said, why would I teach an athlete O lifts when I can do simpler exercises to achieve a common goal such as being faster, stronger and quicker!
I'm glad you included rugby in your clips. I wouldn't have pursued Olympic style lifting in my training if it wasn't for rugby. Another excellent video. Thanks!
I'm a boxing practitioner and since I began practicing the power clean the power of my punches has drastically increased. I wasn't even aware I had access to this power untill I tried it and it fell way different than it did before I started barbell training.
excellent data and presentation thanks a lot.
Hey man, i absolutely love your videos. Found your channel last night and binge watched it all.
Love the editing and the info.
Keep it up!
Vítor Meirelles thank you for watching!
by far the best weightlifting channel!
Awesome vid. Ive always thought that one of the biggest benefits to the full lifts is the courage and determination gained by going under. It cant be measured in graphs, or quantified, but impacts the athlete's mindset like nothing else can. Subscribed!
Those quotation marks in the title hit different these days
This is awesome content. I have been binging your channel on lock down. Fascinating stuff ! Thank u 🙏
Excellent Zach, as always !
This fucking channel bones me ALL THE TIME.
SUPERLIKE
I mean it. The ratio of useful/info per min, or the flux of usefulness per second literally (c'mon, not xD) gives me hard ons.
Props³ for your content, Zack.
this is one of your best videos. thank you ZT. can't wait for Dec for patreon sub.
Another great video Zack, you raised some good points. Keep the great content coming mate.
Dude, your vids are the best! Thank you so much. Peace from Denmark 😁🤙
Kristoffer Krøyer thank you for watching!
A quote from the Kawamori et al study
"All vertical jump trials were performed on a 61 ⫻121.9- cm AMTI (Advanced Mechanical Technologies, Water-town, MA) forceplate. The warm-up protocol was based on work published by Kirksey et al. (19). All subjects per-formed 6 vertical jump trials (3 CMJ and 3 SJ). All vertical jumps were executed with hands on hip (8, 12) and were separated by 3 minutes’ rest. The SJ were all initiated from a position that represented the mid-thigh pull position used in the isometric tests."
So no extra weight was used with CMJ and SJ, then it's no wonder, that they rated so low. Was designed, to produce that outcome.
Good video! Looking forward to see more!
Excellent video once again. Succinct, informative and well explained information.
How long have you been coaching athletes?
PS : God damn you're a lot stronger and faster than you look, mirin' hard
Mr FZ I’ve been coaching athletes for about three years now.
Dropping that knowledge on em. Good video man, I learned a lot.
You're back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great information Zack!
I just love the content you put out
Doooooopppppeeee!!! Dude I kicks it with you man. Great video
Awsome video, much appreciated
Another great vid Z!! I've been meaning to make something similar to help my classes understand the benefits of what were doing. Now I don't have to ;) Thanks brotha!!
No problem Berry! Thank you for watching!
Very insightful, will have to integrate into my training
Did not realise you were at beast at Rugby! Very cool! And dope info from the VID ^.^
Had no idea you played rugby btw :O
As a thrower, I need to do weightlifting. Because throwing is a transference of power from the bottom to the top, as well as a snatch or clean and jerk. Not exactly the same, but very similar. Besides. It is not only about brute strength (powerlifting), but also for dexterity, agility and coordination. You test all of this for the real thing.
In my case, I may have improved (even doubled) my brute strength. But my lack of dexterity and coordination has been an obstacle to increase my numbers in the throws. Reflected in my snatch and clean and jerk.
Please do a video how oly lifting can improve rugby performance
That is why from all strength sports, weightlifting is the most acrobatic (with shot put) and their athletes can perform very well in other sports.
Dat goose step @4:38. What's up from Ireland ✌
Great videos, I just found you and I subbed immediately. I was just wondering what you meant by eccentric force at catch. Is that the force of the athlete pulling themselves under the bar or the force of the bar pushing down on the athlete at the very top of the movement. If it is the latter I don't quite understand why this is so important other than maybe balancing the heavy weight. This could be negated by simply pausing and waiting for the "whip" to come out of the bar. The athlete surly does. not overhead or front squat that initial catch weight.
Super bodyweight cnjs demand you pump the brakes in the catch. You Will probably tip forward if you dont
Once again thank you for these videos, I come always come back to these, really helpful!
Do you recommend any good progams or do you offer any?
I'm working on building some programs and creating a website...stay tuned!!! For now just keep track of what you do and use the best strength programs available (5/3/1, juggeraut, etc.)
We got a fellow rugger!!! Ruck till you scrum!!!
Beautiful.
Nobody gonna mention that sitting guy at the end that flies out of frame?
About the bar force vectors that were measured, did the article distinguish what direction each vector went? For instance, did it go up or out on the extension and down upon the athlete in the catch?
good if other athletes aren't doing this shit, i am
We need more footage of you playing rugby. Asap.
Like always, top quality video! I am curious though, how was the “bar force” measured? Aren’t kilograms a unit of mass, and not force?
They measured the velocity of the bar and how it changed during the lift. Through whatever way they used, they were able to calculate the “weight of the barbell” at different parts of the lift. It’s hard for me to explain because I’m not a mathematician but I️ kinda understand it like at certain points of the lift there are certain forces at play. At those milliseconds, the bar weighs 280 or 250kg but they immediately fluctuate through a multitude of weights.
Any thoughts on working in split cleans as an accessory movement for field athletes?
Didn’t know you played rugby, have you ever considered about making some videos specific for rugby training? I play myself and I think there is a void in good rugby training videos, other than the typical football style workouts. Thanks
did you do much sprint training while doing oly lifts?
Brilliant video, so many informations making a great food for thought.
You still working on programming for Olympic lifts?
Zach what sort of program would you recommend then? For a both becoming fast and strong?
SquatsAreFun what I️ mentioned at the end. A program that builds maximum strength, power, and endurance will be best. So one that utilizes traditional strength movements, plyometrics, heavier simple Olympic lift variants, and lighter more skillful Olympic variants.
1:17 you forgot to put an R in the word stressors
Great vid, just please don't do plyo in a dangerous setting such as in the end, if you miss the jump you can bump the back of the head falling down
You played rugby? Instant sub!
Nice to see clips of rugby in the video. As a rugby player I want to train in the gym for rugby. I already train endurance and speed work outside of the gym. I want to gain power but don't know what to do. What would carry over to rugby and how would I train in the gym.
Y. Tho I played football and rugby, just doing normal strength training had a huge carry over, I also advise doing the Olympic lift training if you can.
Nate Asborn yes I'd love to try olympic lifting. It's very technical so it'd be a lot of work. I suppose strength and any resistance training in general would be good for any contact sport.
Y. Tho Try to find a coach for Olympic lifting if you can
Zen says I think compared to other sports Olympic weightlifter have less sports injury
hey zack or any knowledgeable people here whats the best sorta lifts for speed based sports like pole vault or sprinting
any tips would be appreciated
looked through your comments and i'm gonna be the first one to disagree. I don't want to be rude or anything cause alot of stuff you say is right otherwise i wasn't watching your videos.
i don't think the catching is very important for people who do the olly lifts for strength. The catching position isn't a position where alot of athletes should be strong in. It's not specific to sports cause during there sport they are never into a similar postion. So i's not completely useless, cause eccentric work and rebounding out of the lifts from time to time can be a good stimulus, but majority of the lifts should be at or above 90°.
I would be glad if you answer on this!
jordeaman O lifts aren’t necessary and in my opinion a waste of an athletes time!
Union?
yeah thats union rugby
2:53 pizza force
LOL!
I do crossfit for conditioning and maybe in time I'll compete for shits and gigs I also do Bjj will these type of movements help me with Bjj ?? Any and responses welcome fellow strength seekers and fantastic video btw well done and thank you.
I suddenly crave broccoli now.
Why would you put picture of a guy sprinting as a thumbnail?? Doesnt have any relevance to this video...
And the there was lockdown and no eleikobarbels at home
The argument from trainers or strength coaches who are against Olympic lifting is the exercise very technical. The risk of injury is high especially for athletes they spend time .Do you want him to become a good technique lifter or be explosive.? Hard sell.
It takes too much time to teach the lifts for all of those forces to mean anything. Football players do not have the time in their training schedules to learn a proper snatch. Plus, many strength and conditioning coaches don’t know how to teach them to that level.
fucking DOPE
for the algo
So basically Olympic lifts improve agility
love u flexappeal
Austin Zhang haha I’m not flexappeal but I love him too
i was hoping he would visit the video and see my comment BUT I LOVE U ZACK TELANDER AS WELL
i'll confess i just learned you guys are different people and feel like a fool
Great points but olympic lifting is so incredibly technical and dangerous if done incorrectly. Nobody should attempt this stuff without proper coaching especially if you are starting in your 30’s or 40’s.
sarahdelano and this is why O lifts are not necessary for athletes! An athletes time should be about efficiency and effectiveness! If I can get the same effectiveness out of much simpler exercises then O lifts would prove to be obsolete!
Yeah they be hating only cuz it take time to master ..n you need to know it to teach it lol
thanks for throwing in rugby clips.its a global juggernaut but still waiting for usa aka the sleeping giant ,to wake up.
An american who plays rugby? You're like Ross Geller a.k.a Red Ross!
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Jaqcues Burger getting smashed once for a change :)
It's a rare occasion...
Zack Telander when sinckler is on the other end I can see why haha
How much of a rugby fan are you? It's a surprise considering that you're from the US haha
Eugene Poon I only recently started playing rugby. I played football growing up and I played division 1 lacrosse in college. I currently am the strength coach for a rugby team in Texas and it’s been a blast.
Zack Telander haha that's awesome man! What position do you play?
Eugene Poon they put me at wing because I’m decently fast and I have steps. but I like to make moves in the center of the pitch and run people over so I want to be like an 8 or so.
reddit can beat it