HOW TO: Lower your Peugeot/Citroen
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In this how to video, I show how to lower or raise the suspension on a torsion bar beam/axle. Usually found on Peugeot's and Citroen's.
There are other methods. This is the one I prefer, you may have other ways you prefer. That is fine. Happy modding!
Thank you for watching, all likes and subscribers are very much appreciated, all comments are read and replied to as soon as I can :-)
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Holy damn, this is actually quite a clever design.
No need to screw around with buying lowering springs (at least for the rear), saves a lot of money.
It does if the axle isn't seized and broken 😂🐖👍
The best video of all YT. Thank you so much and best regards from Spain. Long life to 306s!!!!
Thanks! Lots more 306 content on the channel, enjoy! Gracias and adiós
Thanks for letting me know.
The rear height adjustment of the vehicle has been successful.
The interference is gone now.
Without your help, I'd be in big trouble.
Thank you again.
That's great news!! Well done!
Please subscribe if you feel it was helpful enough? 👌
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Thank you so much for taking the time to show this. I always thought my 106 was stuck with its current ride height. If it wasn’t for you i could not have done this job! Thank you 🙏
Awesome! Glad it helped 👍🐷😁
Oh god a plastic torx bolt, the thought of it makes me cringe!
The Savage Garage yup. Money saving I guess.
Savage love your channel
I watched both yours and Darren lobb's videos, darrens video made me scared, yours was so much simpler, I think mainly because of the video quality to be fair, I guess that's how much technology has advanced in 7 years 😂
Darren knows his stuff better than anyone I know regards 306s... I'd love to collaborate and do all the filming and audio for him, the tutorials would have quality all round then.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👌🐷💪
Yeah Darren definitely knows his stuff there's no doubt about that, yours is a better quality so it's a lot easier to follow overall
It's awesome that you took all the time showing us how to do this.
With your great video tutorials, I managed to fit a second hand low mileage gearbox, clutch and gear linkages a few years ago.
Nice! So glad I helped! Sometimes it really is amazing to hear stuff like this...very motivating for me..thankyou 👍🐷
Guide quality is up there
Thanks
Thanks for this video, plan on raising a 405 and this is going to be super helpful.
No worries, I'll be honest, never done a 405.... But hope you don't have too many issues with it!
Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
Thanks man for taking the time to make this video, helps me
Glad to help 👍🐷
Didn't noticed you posted this, still need to lower my 206 so this will be very helpful! Thanks
No worries, they are a slightly different design, be aware of that 👍
finally a video for lower
Constantine t Darren Lobb does a guide also, and tbh, I think it's better esp as he knows much more than me... But people kept asking for me to do one. So, giving the people what they want
Really great video! Will be tons of help when lowering my berlingo! Only thing that could be better would be cancelling out the background noise!
The chirping? Haha.... They are my friends 🙈😂
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Please subscribe and tell everybody about this amazing video with annoying background noise 👍
Great video! I'll be tackling this job on my 205 1.9 xud turbo in the coming weeks. That plastic torx bolt fills me with dread though! Wish me luck 🙏 😅
If a plastic torx fills you with dread... I'd not attack the job. 🤣🙈 That's the easy bit! Although I'd always suggest having replacements. Then you can just tear it out if it's mauled up 👌🐷
1:51 I giggled like a little girl, lol
Great video, well done. This is a massive help.
Thanks! Glad it is 👍
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Great explanation well thought out
Thanks 🐷👌
Perfect video! It's was wery helpfull!! Thank u so much!
No worries! Hopefully your pug won't be static for long 😉👍🐷
Thanks very much. I did an old vw beetle once and I had to fiddle as well
Yeah same idea, VW bus is the same and few other things... Lots of old American stuff has the TBs too
Olá! Companheiro! I am from Brazil, i have an Citroen Xsara 98, your video help me adjust the height of my car, Thank you very much.!
Awesome!! Don't see many Xsaras around in the UK anymore.
Excellent guide., thank you
No worries! 👌
Suuuuper video. Massive help. similar axle on My SAXO. Thanks a lot !!!!!!!!!!
No worries glad it helps, yeah basic principles of this TB axle apply to your saxo 👍🐷
@@PiggyPower job done . It took me approx 3 hours
@@ivachivach7146 good effort
amazing detail . so good.
Thanks 👍👍🐷
dem rims tho!!! 10/10
Yeah I did like them. I didn't like cleaning them though
@@PiggyPower hahaha true!
I did I thanks for the great vid, I have a new axel so it was a bit easier. On the 206 is easier than on the car u have i think?
No different really. Both need the shafts pulling. When they are rebuilt they are 100000x easier than old and rusty! Well done 👍👍👍🐷💪
I've watched this video about 8 times now, but still no more confident in doing it myself! My rear is too low for my liking, bought a refurbished axle and it was dropped 40mm, so I want to raise it by about 25mm so I can put my 20mm spacers back on.
A refurbed axle is a dream to do. Everything greased and not seized! Give ya self a weekend. Get some tea ready and do it step by step.
@@PiggyPower I've never done an axle or torsion bar before, and it's on my daily, so if I fark it up then I'm doomed!
If you'd done it before...you wouldn't need a UA-cam guide 😜 you're not alone! Everyone does something for the first time. . . Like I say, you've got little to worry about considering its a rebuilt axle. Seized parts is the massive problem with these when they are old.
Prepare for a weekend. Have a mate round for a bit too.
Take each step carefully. You'll be fine.
Or pay me £100 and I'll do it 😜🙈👍🤪
@@PiggyPower I'll haggle a bit, £95, some teabags (to which I'll turn into lovely brews all day long) and a pack of custard creams?! 😄
I might take you up on that, because I can see me making a right shitshow of it myself!
Where are you?
Hello, could you make a vid how to create the tool u use at the end to pull the torsion out? I have everything ready but can't get the torsion bar out :-( HELP NEEDED
Knock the arms off. Smack with hammer 👌
@@PiggyPower yes did that sledgehammer but no result what so ever. 😔
Need bigger hammer and bigger swing. If you have removed all the bolts and washers it will come apart. If a big hammer isn't doing it...no little puller will!
Hey Piggy. Ive got a 206cc and noticed they are a tad different with the sway bar plates. I dont have any bolts covered by the plates. Do i still need to remove one or both of the sway bar plates to remove tension or can i just remove the dampers and the torsion bar? Thank you 😊
You will want to remove the anti roll bar for sure. It holds tension between the two sides.
@@PiggyPower awesome!! Thanks man
Very helpful video but i have a question.
So i don't need to remove the middle torsion bar?
Only the side ones?
Get the high i want the put the torsion bars back and done ???
No you don't but you need to undo the tear drop like tabs on either end of the middle "torsion bar", actually the anti roll bar, so you can move the arms independent of the anti roll bar 👌🐷💪
Awesome help 👍
Glad it helped
Please do a video on how to lower Peugeot 206, please!
Almost identical in principle and parts 👍 just take your time and allow a weekend to attack it 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting 🐷💪
Sorry forgot to mention It's on a 206 GTI 2001
Great video really helpful. They don't make it easy do they? I need to drop the back of my 306 Cab but having seen this perhaps I'll resort to the "bag of sand in the boot" method! :-)
It is free though, and you can adjust to whatever height you want...so no limited by 30mm or 60mm springs. . . Just be ready with time and patience and much tea 👌👍😁
really good video man! basicly the same as a 205 rear axle
indeed :) and a ZX, xsara, 206, 106 etc etc
@@PiggyPower Does a Saxo has the same axle?
And like you mentioned at the end, how many hours should I plan for it? 5-7? Is that realistic?
@@MCsMRBONE yeah very similar ... If the axle is unknown, prepare for 7/8hrs yes... Bit be prepared that the bearings may fall apart or be totally goosed... So don't expect to be driving it the next morning for work etc. ...just in case 👍
@@PiggyPower Okay I'll keep that in mind, many thanks for replying! 👍
oh i do like a bit of COPPERY GOODNESSSSSSSSSSS
Me too!
Piggy Power, please tell me about Peugeot 206, the rear axel (torsion). Which model is best for sports? Red or Black, 19.3mm or 19.7mm diametre, are there any other types originally built in Peugeot? Who is the hardest?
Maize Maize as far as OEM axles go, the GTi180 is the firmers and sportiest
Show de aula.
Thanks
What name is that thing that you use to pull the torsion bar out
A custom tool. Slide hammer or make you're own 👍🐷
So .. on these 306s each wheel is connected to its own torsion bar.twist bar (1 each side). Are they connected together in anyway?
Yes, ARB. But you're right, independent suspension at the front AND rear. 👍🐷
@@PiggyPower I've watched a few of your other videos. Is the rear suspension of the 306 the same or different to that on the 206?
@@Mexxx65 both 😜😂
Where can I find that tool you use to pull the torsion bar out?
It was made! Slide hammer or make your own
on a peugeot 206 there are 2 torseion bars. do I need to take only one out? or each torsion bar is for each arm ?
Same as this car in the video, all have 3. One per side and one as an ARB. (Some base spec vans I think didn't have an arb)
@@PiggyPower I see. Appreciate it man thanka for replying
awesome video i am looking for an insight into renault kangoo mk 1 it may help me . cheers
I've been asked about these funnily enough... Need to take a look in person
@@PiggyPower I’ve been under the kangoo this week. It seems similar yet slightly different there are two shafts for each side of the vehicle they meet in the middle, the rear shaft I believe is the anti roll bar and the front shaft would be the torsion suspension bar. I think when we get a dry couple of days I will attempt a lift like yours only 25 to 30 mills nothing mad.
@@adrianhandleyable aye that's right, like the early Clios. One short shaft per side that sit inside the tube (torsion bars)... And the outer is the ARB that links both arms
1:10 is that BMW M20 head bolt?
HDi 👍
Hi Piggy, Rozlan from Malaysia. May I know the ideal measurement to lower rear and front. By the way, I m driving Citroen xsara 1. Thanks
Hi Rozlan!
Amazing to hear where people are from...it's very humbling to have people watching and commenting from such amazing countries!
The ideal measurement is like asking what's the best colour... It's subjective. . . Each person's opinion is different. ☺️👍🐷💪
Nice vid 👍
How long ore how mutch time u need for doing this.
No garage here wants to do it so going to do it in front of my home on the street 😄😊😇
If you've never done it before and the axle looks like it's never been apart...allow a weekend and have a backup plan for Monday transport!
So you’re only pulling out one torsionbar?
Per side ... One bar does one side. One does the other. The third connects both and is the ARB
19:07 can we just eat that sheep?! 🤣🤣
Sorry,I'm vegan 😂👌🐷
I’m lowering my Peugeot at the minute, the problem I’m having is when I adjust it one side is 15mm lower than the other, if I adjust it up or find a notch it puts it an inch or more out,
Is there way of making fine adjustments to balance the height, your help would be much appreciated as I’ve been at this a few times now and can’t figure it
Yes, do it the way I'm showing you in this video. You're trying to do it the "Nik" method which is the bodge way... One spline as a time. Notice, I don't do that here. I'm removing the torsion bar from both ends, adjusting and then refitting ... 👍😜
Thanks. I have Renault clio mk1 1995. 1.2. And I want lower my car. But not to much. So I need buy shock absorber or my one original will be good?
Up to 30mm seems to be the rule of thumb for stock dampers
@@PiggyPower okay. What about front shock springs. I can cut 30mm or what ?
@@gs8282 never ever ever cut springs!!!!!
@@PiggyPower okay. I understand. Thanks
Hi is it the same for peugeot 407 sedan
Totally different chassis
I'm new to this channel, I subbed after I saw the quality of the video and you making it easy to do yourself. I just wanted to add this: I have a problem with my rear axle I guess, my car sits low on rear end and one wheel is cambered negative, ride quality isn't the best. Now, do I have to replace the entire axle or just bushings and this torsion bar? I'd really love to hear that it doesn't cost much, as the entire unit costs around 200€ used and new one is even more expensive (no dampers/shocks and springs included).
2003 Peugeot 206 it is. If anyone knows solution to this and has info, I'd be more than thankful for it.
Thanks for subscribing 👍👌
You need a new rear axle. The bearings will be too far gone for just replacing as they will have worn the tube.
Second hand ones are a gamble but can be purchased for £50-£150.
Rebuilt replacements £200-250 (via eBay)
I have a video on how to remove and fit one on a 206 on this channel.
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@@PiggyPower Thanks for replying, I just checked prices and used rear axle is 150€ at the lowest, going up to 200€ at most. I'm from south part of Europe so that's why you see euros.
It sucks having to replace the entire unit... I estimated all costs and I need to put in 500€ worth of parts to make my car sort of top notch. I payed 1450€ for it. Is it worth? I intended to keep it as it's engine was very well maintained, but it has just a little over 300 000 km on it. That's like 190 000 miles approximately, right? What are your thoughts?
Well, €500 and you have a top notch car. €0 spent and you will soon have to scrap your car. 🤔
Second hand units are a gamble often especially at this age now. But I've gambled due to cost... But it has bitten me twice with totaly junk axles when the seller said they were good.
It's your call 👌🐷💪
@@PiggyPower I'll put those 500 in it, then. Interior-wise car is pristine, just needs cleaning up, only some rust on exhaust muffler and left side skirt (about 10 cm wide, not deep).
Thanks for providing me information on it, it really helps. :)
No worries! All the best 👌🐷💪
is it necesery to remove the anti roll bar plate..to lower the car? If you undo only the front bolts of the anti roll plate that holds on the arm..does the anti roll bar with the plates move freelly or..you do that becouse you want to change the anti roll bar..?
You can just undo the plate from the arm, but the rubber seals will often hold it in place, giving misleading measurements AND if you twist the old seal inside there, you will likely damage it and thus leave the insides/bearings exposed to moisture/the outside environment 👌🐷💪
@@PiggyPower So it can be done..but you suggest to take it off..!Thanks for your quick answer..keep up the good work!
No worries, I always like to remove to inspect the inside.
Subscribe if you feel it helped a bit 👍😁🐷💪
Very fine video thank you very much,. Used it with fine result. But one problem. The 2 pcs 8 mm bolt (13 mm head) holding the handbrake cable and antiroll bar, keep on loosens itself after 2-3 days. I cant figure out why. Do you have a solution ?
Threadlock.
Could this method be used on peugeot 206 1.1 5d 2002? Cheers
Yes, same principle... The bearings are in the trailing arms on the 206, so be cautious
What wheel you got on the peugeot? looks lovely
Thanks! Check out the Project videos... I do a whole video on these epic wheels! ☺️👍
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if im lowering it (thinking to use a xsara vts bar), which shock absorbers would you recommend? ideally some stiffer ones than standard
Bilstein or spax.
So do u have to do each side individually? One torsion bar for one side and another torsion bar for the other? I have a peugeot 206cc.
Yes, independent suspension 👍👍🐷
106 same Works?
Very similar principles yup
how to make a torsion puller please? i from cze i dont know, thank.
You could just hammer them off as mentioned or use a slide hammer too... But the little tool is just washers, sleeve and some different sized threaded bolts. It will ONLY work in my opinion on torsion bars that are greased up though 👍
Hi piggy, looking to buy a 205 this weekend and this will be first thing I do. I'm a mechanic and have lowered lots of cars but never a torsion set up. How different is a 205 compared to your vid or same? I dont wanna go mad on it looking at 40mm drop on front springs then rear to match. Is it as clear cut as 40mm springs on front measure the 40mm on the rear and will sit straight down the side afterwards? I dont have GTI money when buying the car so will be either a 1.6 petrol base model or 1.8 diesel model. Is there anything you can think of I will need in advance before its lowered, part wise, to replace or upgrade on the suspension while I'm there as I only intend to do it once, and will the standard shocks be ok on the 40mm drop? Thanks mate and keep it up liked and subscribed.
Standard shocks will be fine... But could be worn out due to age... It's very similar in principle to the 306 setup. I'm 90% sure 306 shocks fit the 205 if needing replacements... Look for a nice diesel version and then upgrade layer in time to the 1.9xud turbo lump...dirt cheap, massive upgrade... Message the channel if want more info on it 👍
Have fun 🐷💪👌
@@PiggyPower thanks alot piggy looking at a 1.8 non turbo diesel this weekend the engine you mentioned is that from a 205 or other pug?
The epic 1.9xud turbo is from 306s, ZXs, xantias, 406s etc etc... Fits neat in those. With a little tweak to the fuel pumps you get 120-130bhp. Goes well!
@@PiggyPower thankyou for the information I'll get the car and then look for a low mileage one
Very informative. I want to raise my Kangoo van. Well did lol sudden change of heart now unless you can do it?
I would first ask... Why? And if raising the rear, what will you do with the front?
@@PiggyPower I don't have the Patience for bolts that may round off lol. My Kangoo carry 400kg and sits a bit low (window cleaner) so want to jack it up a little even lowish when empty making towing my half a van trailer look odd. ;-) you fancy a challenge?
@@markjones116 ahh interesting... I tow a trailer for my reach and wash, I do a little still ... Whereabouts are you? If you're not local, I may know someone local to you
@@PiggyPower I am based in Gloucestershire where you based?
Here is my page your see a photo of my van with trailer at the top
Facebook.com/forestexteriorcleaning
Hello
I have Peugeot 405 1993 and I want to know something
Assume when the car is fully loaded it becomes lower than normal by 20 cm
If I lower the torsion bar will it still lower 20 cm when fully loaded or the torsion bar become stiffer like lowering coil spring?
Thank U
Remember you are adjusting the trailing arm relative to the torsion bar.
So if you follow this guide and lower it by 5cm, it will be 5cm lower when on the ground. 👍
Piggy Power
I understood that
But I want to know if the torsion bar gets stiffer or stay the same
Again, all you are doing is adjusting the position of the arm relative to the torsion bar. You are not changing the chemical composition or thickness of the torsion bar 🙈
Piggy Power
Hahahaha
I understood this sir
So if I lower it and have fully loaded trunk it’ll hit the ground
Thank U so much
1) depends how much you lower it
2) it will hit bump stops first I imagine
Do you have to remove the shocks when doing it?
See the video...! I do mention this 😋😉
How many millimeters would u classify as an individual nick? Or is a nick each spline you go round on the torsion bar?
Nick's are the splines in the TB... Hence it's bodge.
@@PiggyPower cheers boy. I was told if the police pull me i can be done for having my car lowered, care to shed any light?
You could also be pulled over for a general documents check. Nothing illegal about that.
If you have not declared the modification to your insurers, it is illegal as your insurance would be invalid.
If you lower it to the extent where there is no longer any travel in the suspension or a wheel/tyre fouls the bodywork when turned or suspension compressed, also illegal.
However... I would also claim you are being negligent if any of the above applied to you!!
Stay safe, stay legal, stay happy.
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@@PiggyPower thanks piggy. Really informative
No trouble 👍🐷💪
Dang the birds good vid tho
Yes. Those. Birds. Grrr
Will this work the exact same as this in a 2006 1.4 206
Very similar yes. All parts and principles almost the same.
Word of caution, the 206 bearings are slightly different and if you have to remove the arms, the bearings sit in the arms and can be fragile at this age. So if the axle isn't playing ball in coming apart, prepare for tired/worn out bearings.
Hope that helps a bit 👍
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@@PiggyPower The bearings in the 206 aren't always the same size either. I tried rebuilding the axle on my '99 206 GTi, found the bearing surfaces were beyond repair and bought a 2004 206 GTi 180 axle. Totally different sizes on the bearing, so I guess they changed it (probably in 2001 when they went from 15" wheels to 16", added CANBUS, traction/stability control etc).
@@IOUaUsername the gti180/SW axles all have a bigger bearing one side to the other. All the other axles are the same size bearings both sides 👌
Wait I am so confused what happened to the racetracker i saw the video but why is it gone.
Coyote The Gamer a guy working on his roof dropped a tile on the roof of the car, and he wrote it off as a result
ben12801 insurance wrote it off when a number of tiles slid off and caused damage to nearly all the panels on the Racetractor. As I was switching to the Lemon soon anyway... I didn't have the circumstances to reshell or fix it cheap. Sad times.
Piggy Power yeah fair enough I’m not sure how I would have reacted as well, at least you’ve learnt loads out of it and I’m sure you’ll be more satisfied with the 16v build. The content you produce is great by the way keep it up!
Piggy Power dang I feel so bad because if check my videos out I am doing the same thing with my vw mk4 golf and seeing this happen. Is terrible but you learn from experience and can make a better car.
ben12801 thank you 👍🐷
have one question my car heater it not heating properly peugeot 306 1.6 automatic year 2000 and I changed thermostat what can be the other reason not heating do I have to flush heater core but when ever driving blows warm enough but when ever car not moving and engine on it not good enough warm
Are the heater hoses hot going in and out? Is the fan operating on all speeds?
@@PiggyPower there is running hot water but when I touch hoses they are not that much hot , they are warm .
@@yukselmaxasmr hose should be hot to the touch, especially the one from engine to matrix. does engine get up to temperature?
@@PiggyPower yes engine temperature fine
Does lowering affect rear alignment? I had this argument with someone - inconclusive. I lowered my van Peugeot Partner by an inch so that it looks level, though I have to replace axle coz I never replaced the bearings (in 400k kms, my bad), I have found a Peugeot 405 axle with disc brakes I intend to fit and lower and inch.
Depending on how much castor, camber and toe you had before .... It will affect them. 👍
@@PiggyPower I never measured tbh, will do so after axle fitted and get back to you.
Hello mate, really enjoyed the vid. I have a series 2 405 mi16 that I want to lower and in my home city there are a few good long-standing Pug workshops. Realistically how long would this take an experienced Pug mechanic to do? I don't want to be lead down the garden path! Many thanks
An old axle that's never been apart...likely needs a full rebuilt to be honest. So could easily be a day or more. If it's a newish axle, couple of hours for a oro
Big video bro tanks ☺
No worries! Thanks for watching and commenting ... Love it if you smashed that subscribe button too 🐷💪
does it work the same on a 206 GTI?
Very similar. 👍
@@PiggyPower oke i wil have a go then on my 206 to lower the rear end. Wish me luck :-)
Just be ready that you may need to knock the trailing arms off and may find you need new bearings. 👍
@@PiggyPower oke ill keep that in mind
Hi i have citroen xsara picasso can you make video please ?
About what?
How long do you need for this
How long do I need what for?!
@@PiggyPower The whole for lowering
@@timallendorfer3522 I still don't have a clue what you're asking about? 🙈
Information from the Stabiliser Disassembly Tool is required Please help me.
I couldn't find it on eBay.
I'm not working.
My car is 206 rc I need information on special tools. Help me.
What tool are you after? I've not heard of such a tool you are describing. There aren't any specialist tools on the market for taking these axles apart.
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Piggy Power sorry
I can't understand your voice because I'm not good at English.
The rear of my car is too low.
There's interference. I want to increase it.
But the size of the screws for disassembly
I don't know.
How many millimeters of disassembly screws were used?
There is still some information lost in translation...
But I suggest remove all bolts and nuts and end plates and use a big hammer. Be prepared for bearings to be in a bad condition.
Stay safe
@@PiggyPower Thank you.~!
Will this method drop as low as the nick method ?
Lower if you set it lower....!? But then, that depends on how many "nicks" you set it at... which also depends on which side you measure as it won't be even both sides .... Or is this trolltastic Friday!?
No trolling I only know the nick method and always have had someone do it for me but I think I'm buying an xsara coupe and will be lowering it myself, 4 nicks as I'm slamming it on it arse but the way you done it looks much better so I want to know will it still go as low doing it your way as to having it dropped 4 nicks, I'm sure it was 40mm a nick ?
This is the problem with the nick method aka the total rubbish bodge method... You don't know how much a nick is .... Hence why you need to remove the torsion bar.
I'll be totally honest with you... I know it's all a matter of taste... But... If you intend to lower it 100mm+... You'll be on the bump stops. Which is dangerous. Really dangerous.
Please modify safely 👍
I thought the “citroen several pens” was fiction!
Eh? 🤔
@@PiggyPower ua-cam.com/video/UmIHUVd70FQ/v-deo.html
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Why no before and after view?
Hi there Joey, would you have liked to see a certain height before/after?
Because each car is different, and this being a guide, its very personal/subjective... IE I would want a 20mm drop and you want a 50mm. I am on these mad 17" wheels, you are on mad 15" wheels...
Lots of before/after shots on Instagram of this car and others before/after lowering if it's just curiosity .. ?
Thanks for watching and commenting though 👍
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hey can you show the exact jacking points?
Same place as they are on 98.6% of all monocoque chassis cars these days .. two reinforced sections per sill. Check your user manual if not sure.
@@PiggyPower my user manual just show the side points... i have a 306 hdi too, and i need those side points for the jack stands, i need to know where to put the jack
Those are the jacking points. I wouldn't use those for axle stands. I'd use the axle or the subframe for axle stands
@@PiggyPower but you're using those for Jack stands in the video mate 😅 can you give you ig or something else for us to speak with images? 😅 Thank you
Yes, because I'm working on the axle. Need to switch once raised. If you using the axle or removing a subframe, obviously need to be adaptable
Is it possible to narrow a 306 axle???
Or is there a narrower axle that’ll fit? 106? It’s for a project so body rub won’t be an issue btw.
Narrow in what way? Body rub would be an issue as the wheels wouldnt turn?!
Its a project without any body above so nothing to rub on. Need to tuck the width in a few inches if possible... 😬
But.... There is the chassis ... That's what would rub if you went narrower... You could try narrower wheels. But you can't go IN the arch... You get to the chassis... Which is where the axle is bolted to...
Go have a look lol
Ah yes, I should explain better, the project car won’t have 306 bodywork so chassis rubbing isn’t an issue. I’d like to use a narrowed 306 axle but I assume the torsion bars are the length they are and that’s that, or can it be done? Hmmm
I raised my car I love to do the opposite 😂😂
On purpose 🤔
Anyone in Lincolnshire that can do this for my 306 Estate?
Not that I know of, sorry
is it possible for you to make me a tool up for torsion bar? obviously for a penny or t2 :)
I bought this tool tbh. It's nice quality. Not sure I could replicate it without quite an expense as I don't have the bolts/nuts/materials of that size/material kicking around. Slide hammer will do nicely, £30-40 for a decent hefty one 👌
@@PiggyPower thanks bud
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Bill confused ... ?! What do you mean?
Piggy Power your arm vein. It's large. Much wrenching.
Bill #scrawny
What a bunch of over engineered pieces of shit. A whole weekend for just the rear. Was going to lower a friends for him but after watching this nightmare no chance. Why can't they just be a normal spring and strut setup like 99.9% of cars out there.
Haha... They are a little more tricky that replacing a set of springs... Many other manufacturers use this setup though and some are returning to it . . . If nothing is dramatically seized... The advantages:
They can often last the lifetime of the vehicle = huge saving on parts and labor over the lifetime of ownership
Fully independent suspension at the rear of a fwd car .. for a cheap fwd car of the era this was amazing.
Fully adjustable height... You can adjust the heigh to within a mm of whatever height you'd like without buying any parts.
Downside: it's a right sod to adjust the height. 😂🙈
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You are absolutely right. The same applies to the 206. I just bought a 206 1.4i (TU3) from 1998 and it's still really good. I am convinced of the older Peugeot models and have already had at least 8 pieces myself. 205, 5 x 206, 406, 106 (208: is actually good, but no longer has any character).
Amazing!
Does this also work for my Bugatti Chiron?
If you've got the Lego Chiron, it does have torsion bars, so yes. ,👍🐷
Y love it is cars yes peugeot soo good cars frenchy boys bye
That's an amazing Google translation 🤣👍👍👍👍🐷
@@PiggyPower sorie no speak english just verie leteel ok bye boys
Takes me back to about 1990 when I lowered my 405 Mi16 by 30mm. Happy days.
You need to relive them 😂👌
I thougt it was springs back aswell i were looking for lowering springs.. Haha, so this is the only way to lower the car then? Not looking to easy :/
It all depends... Once an axle has had the plates and bars removed once and all greased up, it's actually quite easy. It's when things are seized that this becomes a real issue. But rear suspension with no maintenance for often 100k + miles isn't too bad considering.
Have fun 😉🐷💪
@@PiggyPower Thank you, i will give it a try then :D
Have fun! Plan for the worst.... Have time in hand 👌
Hello piggy power I've got a question for you hopefully you can help me out,I've got a Peugeot partner van 63plate will the front seats out of a Peugeot 207cc 08plate fit in my van. Grunt grunt!!!!!! I love your videos.
Very very unlikely to bolt in... But anything is possible with skill and money
@@PiggyPower thankyou piggy power much appreciated for your reply grunt grunt!!!!!!!
Can you lift the rear suspension with this method say 3" higher than stock? Or will the shock absorber prevent it going any higher? Thanks
Yeah you can, you'd need to be cautious about damper length indeed.
@@PiggyPower Thanks man, I'm building a Peugeot 106 off roader haha! I think I'm going to leave the torsion bars alone and just build spacers to bolt on above the rear axle mounts!
You could raise it a bit... I would... Plus add spacers.
I've been wanting to do similar with a 306 for a long time!
Nice work! Great video.. Thanks a lot.
No worries and thanks!!
Please consider subscribing 😁🐷💪
do you know where is possible to get a replacement eccentric washer? and what might be a suitable alternative to that plastic torq bolt?
Yes, both stainless replacements from axles by Stef, look him up on Facebook 👍🐷💪
Fantastic video. done by someone that actually knows what he's doing and easy to follow without any nonsense. Much appreciated
My pleasure! Feel free to share the channel with a few mates if you think it's worth it 👌🐷
How to camber? 🤣
Find a dead/damaged/broken axle and fit that 😂🙈👍
@@PiggyPower Like mine... I have a huge amount of negative camber on one of my wheels, and my rear end sits very low, 206 later model.. If anyone wants to trade axles, let me know XD.
Still trying to get the money to repair that.
I wanna lower my Citroen Saxo (about 50-60mm) do i need a strut brace?
To lower it... No. As you can see, I lowered mine without using a strut brace 👌🤣
@@PiggyPower Okay thanks Form replying!
So there's not the chance to deform my frame/body?
That depends on 1000 variables! Has it ever been damaged, is all the chassis straight to start with, is all the suspension components like new, is it being lowered properly, is it used as a rally car etc etc. Simply lowering a vehicle won't bend a chassis 👍
Thanks bud did you link the other video you mentioned in the beginning?
babybaby I thought I did on the top right corner ... If not.. just search Darren Lobb
now added link in description :)
Will there will there 5 stud wheels from an Audi A4 fit onto the Peugeot 206 if you get low profile tyres
Think about this....
How many studs does your 206 have
@@PiggyPower 5 stood pal
@@jasonwade1458 go count again 😆
@@PiggyPower lol , 😂😆😂 I was looking at the a hubcap,
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