2019 Volvo S60 Review | Mixed Bag of Greatness
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- We take a look at the new Volvo S60 released in 2018. It is well known in the car and truck world that customers want it all.(reliability, luxury and tech etc.) Volvo tries to cover that list by connecting the dots between blending speed, safety, style and luxury into this new S60.
There will always be competition from BMW, Audi, Mercedes and now Genesis but for many Volvo remains somewhat unique.
Outro music: Alan Fowler Music
Index:
00:00 - 00:35 Intro
00:35 - 1:30 Exterior
1:30 - 5:00 Interior
5:00 - 10:01 Underbody, Chassis, Suspension and Engine
10:01 - 16:20 Driving Impressions
16:20 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
Hey Mark.
Im actually a mechanical engineer who spent crazy amount of hours working on the new S/V60 cars (and other cars at Volvo). Thank you for this review. It makes all the hard work I put into this worth it when I can see that people appreciate it. I can assure you that I did my absolute best engineering without cutting any corners, ever.
I have followed your channel for years and Im always eager to hear your opinion on cars, especially Volvo.
Keep up the good work!
Where do you work and what engineering projects do you get to work on? Thanks. Its good to know people are working hard on this stuff. I do appreciate good work.
SnakePrank I’m sure we’d all appreciate a long interview with senior engineers about the trade offs decisions and any regrets the engineering team has. Honestly Volvo is the most interesting manufacturer to a lot of us.
@@savagegeese During that time I worked in Gothenburg, Sweden (where all the engineering gets done. Geely is "just" the owner) on both the CMA and SPA projects . I was developing the BIW and other car body components.
The guys over at Volvo Cars (and Trucks for that matter) know their stuff. A lot of competent people work there.
@@Zee133 that is interesting. I have a 2018 XC60 and I love the car ... Thinking about the polestar upgrade... Since I didn't get the T6 I wanted to get a better refinement specially on the shifting. What do you think about it?
I'd like to know why the Polestar software isn't installed in Volvos by default, with the option to turn a switch on or off to employ it (or, to have it just be the default software for the transmission shifting).
I just bought one of these CPO with 17k on the ODO, I couldn't agree with you more, its BY FAR the most underrated sedan on the market, and a screaming deal as a CPO.
Also just bought cpo with 15k. So excited to get it registered and on the road.
Yeah, 5yrs unlimited miles is sweet.
It was about a year ago I talked to a Volvo mechanic that told me that the reason Volvo went with the Aisin 8spd was that the originally planned ZF 9spd gearbox that was planned turned out "unsatisfactory" and Volvo declined the offer and went to Aisin. Not sure if that really happened but looking at the failure rates of the ZF 9spd in various FCA & Honda products, I'm actually believing that could have been the case.
Back to the S60 - I'm surprised Volvo made a product that is a sporty as it looks even before getting to the S60R or Polestar models. I agree it would be a lease only vehicle because of its new design & complicated tech, but the car overall is a solid effort. Whoever said Chinese ownership would ruin Volvo is probably punching themselves right now, because Volvo is stronger than ever under Geely than its entire history under Ford.
Exactly. And they are FAR more reliable (although they are still far from reliable).
People were always saying Volvo turbos are going to be unreliable. Truth is they're fine. I'm tired of seeing only Audi's and BMW's on the street, I hope people buy this.
I actually like how exclusive Volvo is. I’d prefer if just enough ppl bought it just to keep the brand alive 😂
5yrs gone by I don't think they sold many lol
Volvo makes some amazing stuff. Growing up I had Swedish friends and they always had Volvos. A few 850 turbos a C70 and a few V70Rs they have the best seats in the business and just an overall amazing interior. Even back in the 90s. Enjoyed the video thanks!
Just ten seconds into the video I had a feeling it was a Savage Geese production. Truly appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. 👌🏽👍🏽
The quality of your videos Savage has gone up yet another notch !
The small little details, until the very end of your video, is incredible! Excellent job all around my man...
All of youtubers should learn a few things from you. This is how you make quality videos !
wow, i had no idea either about the lead spring rear end, let alone a composite spring. Super interesting. Thanks for getting under the car.
The composite leaf spring looks like a delicious piece of parmesan cheese.
At least it will not rust.
I really enjoy your driving segments and examining the cars underneath. This is what separates you from the others along with the cinematography. Great work as always!
This is the best review I’ve seen, I love my s60 it’s drives like a dream, everyday I can’t wait to drive it
10seconds into the opening add, dropped a like. That's how good savagegeese is.
I loved this review. You give praise where it’s due but you’re not afraid to be brutally honest about the negatives of a car. I will be subscribing so I can see more of your content in the future.
Did anyone else spot the "Bluetooth - Hemorrhoid pain relief" in the instrument cluster? xD
Yeah, nice easter egg. Hopefully those volvo seats were comfortable for him.
Keep doing these easter eggs Mr. Goose!
LMFAO
Good catch @ 12:42
Love cars and love good cinematography. Your videos provide something special and unique to the car reviewing industry. Thank you
Freaking love your reviews! Appreciate the depth of coverage; great job!
Hands down the best review of this car. Thanks for showing the s60 on a hoist. I just bought this car because there are just so damn many of its competitors on the road. Its different, comfortable, capable and safe.
I’ve had mine over a year and I love it!!
I have the fusion red also. I rarely see any new model S60 T6 R-Design's on the road. We Volvo S60 owners stand out from the pack. The A4's, BMW's and Mercedes are so common they are tired....
I love your videos, I always fall asleep before the end! Your voice is so relaxing!
I really appreaciate how he discusses potential reliability. No one discusses that besides Skotty Kilmer. I wish he would discuss it more - especially because his reviews are so in depth. It is so much more important than most people discuss in these videos.
I have been VERY interested in Volvos since this new SPA architecture debuted. I'm pretty confident that the Mrs's next ride will be one. This S60 makes an extremely compelling case for itself. Your thoughts have only served to reaffirm my perceived beliefs about it. Thank you for your content SG!
Modern actual *cars* have gotten really good. Nicer to drive, nice interiors, etc. They just get overlooked because they aren't the latest crossover.
...and they aren't reliable. Why pay more money (40 grands), for a car with less than 8 years of lifespan and huge value loss after the buy ?
@@boboutelama5748 No different from expensive SUVs or crossovers in that regard.
There is no such thing as an electric steering system with good feel. The Porsche ones come close, but still not very good compared to the hydraulic units in the older ones. @Tom
@@boboutelama5748
There will certainly be a huge loss of value. There always is from new. However your speculation about lifespan is plain silly. Modern cars tend to last longer than ever before in history with better reliability and rustproofing.
What will render these cars obsolete is the rise of electric car popularity. Maybe in ten years time but maybe nearer 20 years.
Sorry, I'm ready to die for this affirmation. Rustproofing is of course better, but we had peak reliability in the car business around the 90's to 2000's. Especially japanese cars had, back then, nearly indestructible mechanics and the very conservative electronics, that helped to make them the collectibles they are today. Try to make 300'000km on a Volksagen Golf or a BMW 315i... the CEO at BMW himself claimed in an interview that "no modern car should live more than 200'000km". @@hedydd2
Simultaneous update from the savagest of geese and the straight pipes. It's gonna be a good Friday morning at work :D
Would love if Volvo did another S60R with a 5 cylinder....
They dont make the 5 cylinder any more. The Polestar s60/v60 was the latest R equivalent. The new S60 is goingbto have a Polestar editiob but it is a PHEV
Agreed, with a little suspension work it was a great car, however, as Alex2 noted, the 5 cylinder engines are gone, the "new" 4's are not as smooth, but at least in T6 form, they put out plenty of power.
Get the S60 Polestar hybrid
Another great review. I definitely agree on the interior electronics. I just cannot imagine ever wanting to touch a screen to adjust the AC. I really love how my Mazda 6 is laid out. I have a touch screen, but with the selector wheel and steering wheel controls, I literally never touch it. AC controls are all mechanical and incredibly east to use.
Volvo's interior is always beyond that of others. I still think the cars made between 2005 to before this interior looked better, but still think this is FAR better then others because it looks clean, it doesn't look like a "boyish" design! it looks like it has class
The shot where you attached the camera to the driver door and closed it was amazing. It moved on its own in a very natural way, like it was alive. Would be cool if you could find a camera mount that could replicate that type of motion in a controlled way for one of your "artsier" videos. Great work.
I am *so glad* that your prior concerns about driving dynamics and power delivery from Volvo's T+S 4 are resolved in this smaller, lower iteration of the platform. I've been drooling over the V60 since the press photos were released, and with this review I feel confident that it'll be a great drive with little compromise. Currently driving a Saab 9-3 Aero wagon (one in a long line of wagons and hatchbacks) that's a nose-heavy beast, but still fun to toss around on winding roads, with the added bonus of hauling a ton of sh*t when needed. I enjoyed the underbody walk through and appreciate comments on consistency of build quality. They got most things right for me, so I think I can forgive the touch UI for climate controls. Great review, as always, SG!
Another great video to watch in the morning. Love this channel.
And it looks like Volvo made a decent one here. I'd love to take a listen to that audio system.
Your videography game is savage! Keep telling it how it is.
I went through Turbowski withdrawal when he was working in a Vietnamese brothel, but I'm glade he's back. Is it true he's addicted to preparation H . You guys are the best!
Solid review as always. This car looks really good! I might wanna look into it more.
Perfect car to lease. Great review as always. Need to do both the Jag XE and Alfa Giulia 4 cylinder models as a comparison. My Lexus IS is coming off lease soon and this may be in the running.
You r that genuine car reviewer whom other reviewers should learn something..
I absolutely love the way this car looks. Inside and out
The door closing shot makes the cinephile part of my brain light up every time
One of the best reviews,love the colour.
i love this channel.. should have so many more subs and so much more attention
Your intros are spectacular to say the least.
Just can't stop laughing at the Hemorrhoid Pain relief on the bluetooth on the center instrument display.
It's a great day when savagegeese uploads a new car review
Great review and I can see why SG voted this his fave sedan for 2018. That said, I like the G70 reviews as well, especially the handling comments. The new BMW 3 series is also garnering good reviews, so much for the end of sport sedans.
Stunning intro on this one
I drive the V60 right now and waiting till the end of the lease to switch into this. THX for the informations.
I hope you can get your hands on the V60 wagon, I'm curious if that is closer to the car than the SUV.
I'm a bit of a Volvo fanboy, but I'm not biased. I owned a couple of the old school RWD 4cyl Volvos, which were amazingly stout cars and by far the most comfortable cars I've ever sat in. I'm loving the looks of these new Volvos. I fully expect they don't hold a candle to the old ones in terms of reliability. Back in the day, Volvos were known for robust engineering and excellent safety, but not exactly handsome cars. Nowadays, all the competition have caught up with the safety. Reliability has plummeted. The only thing Volvo has going for it is the styling, which is entirely subjective. I think they have a beautifully restrained elegant look about them and look great. I prioritize reliability and quality over looks and performance stats though. Fortunately for Volvo, I don't think most new car buyers think like I do.
palebeachbum Volvo used to be a European Subaru, not any longer.
Volvos were great cars until you needed parts. Look too at the history of Volvo. They focused on safety after they were shocked by the early crash tests.
@jonny j Having taken mine apart to do some after-market customizations... I'll just say: These cars are well-built, well-assembled, and very well-designed.
I did get a lease, but only because I really want the fully autonomous & Android-powered 2021 model. ;-)
The tech is quite likely going to be buggy over time... Although I've had zero issues w/ 5K miles in my XC60, but I also manually update the software in mine on a regular basis.
All European premium cars, be it a modern Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc are loaded with tech. And were already expensive to service. It's the downside of anything "premium". If you want cheap and reliable, Honda/Subaru/Toyota/Hyundai/Kia are all making amazing cars.
That said... none of those non-EU imports is going to be nearly as comfortable or pleasing as the EU imports. It's a trade off, just like anything else!
It's really isn't the same company, only in name. The Volvo of old died in 1998, with the 850 and rwd wagons. My 240s may not have anywhere near the performance, but surely match the comfort. I'm sure in the end they will drive three to four times as many miles as this car. 275k on one, 235+ on the other.
Volvo is still ahead on safety. The XC90 has been sold for sixteen years in the UK out of many tens of thousands sold and many thousands crashed, there has not been one single fatality in that time. NOT ONE.
I've no idea why you would have the perception that reliability has plummeted. The new platform has had some minor software glitches that have been subject to several updates, which are free of charge and some added useful extra features, which you expect on every modern newly introduced computerised models of anything these days, from cameras, to laptops, to iPads to cars.
The only ones I would be wary of, but again with no evidence that I should be, would be the hybrid models. These really are a new technology that adds complication. The saving grace being that even if the electric drive fails completely when it gets old, the car can still be used as a conventional gas car.
I love how you hold the steering wheel - just like my beloved 98 year old grandma.
Great review!
I have one request....please do a detailed review for Focus ST
I just bought one of these two days ago. I hope it ends up being reliable because I'm instantly in love with it and would love to eventually buy it out
Hows it going 1 year on?
Mr Goose: In WWII many aircraft were coumpound-charged. The old farts I’ve talked to mostly refer to it as turbo-supercharged...If you want to add it to your repertiore, it might smooth out your delivery...As always, keep up the great work.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to add a few shots from driving in snow and sharing observation about advantages and downsides of Haldex.
All in all, professional review as always enjoyable to watch. Thank you SG.
Greeting from Poland and Merry Christmas!
Fine Print: AWD systems
The current Haldex works very well indeed, considering these are all-road cars not off-road cars. Early Haldex versions of years ago used to require a certain amount of wheelspin to engage the rear wheels but all current versions, whichever car brand it is fitted to, starts off from a standstill with rear drive engaged and the ECU anticipates when and where 4wd is required and engages it in fractions of a second, mostly in advance of need.
Only tested the AWD system a little bit once. Works quite well in the snow doing donuts and stuff :D
neighbor had one. looks amazing in white. sends a elegant yet powerful look.
Enjoyed this alot thanks
Thank you for review!
First time catching one of your reviews. You've done a fantastic job with the voiceovers and production quality. Nice review!
Whatcha listening to at 14:46 there? :) Seriously though, I love your videos, thanks for doing this. I'm super excited about the new design direction with Volvo, they're really neat cars. I'm glad you enjoyed it overall.
Volvo are moving to the right direction but only time will till if their reliability improved specially with the completed engine, excellent video !
Awesome video, as usual. You guys rock. Do you guys have a new out-to lined up for "season two"? (Your intros seem to change often enough)
You can call me a dinosaur, but I so dislike this trend of downsizing, I can't tell! You look at beautifully looking exteriors and what you get is 2l 4-poppers with different softwares for different horsepowers. It makes me loose my hair, of which I already have so few. ARRRRGGGGHH! Makes me hope to keep my car as long as technically possible, because there will be no replacement. And be it politically incorrect, I don't give a ©®¥£¤⊙. Enjoying every second in my 5.5l Biturbo V8 and treating it as my PRECIOUS....
And I'm not even american, best wishes from Austria, folks, and have a merry christmas.
Thank you again, Marc, for your great videos, which are well appreciated here by your european fanbase. :)
This review was awesome
I don't get it. My 2017 XC90 has never had any lag and hardly takes any time to boot up. It has all the toys too, so its no low-rent budget model.
The more you use the infotainment the more you appreciate the voice and steering wheel controls and the less time you use the touchscreen.
My XC90 also has the transverse plastic leaf spring and I have zero complaints about it apart from the fact that road noise in the cabin could be better insulated.
Mine is the D5 turbodiesel and it pulls like a train with superb power and torque and is nice and quiet. I also regularly get between 38 and 42 mpg imperial. Thats 32 to 35 USmpg. The Aisin transmission is fitted to the Audi Q7 and has been back to 6 speed days, on diesel models. I know this is a front wheel drive model but the power flow through the transmission is near identical apart from the deletion of one brake pack to be replaced by a shorter shaft and a brake band.
Try a Polestar upgrade for a sharper transmission with more predictive and intuitive downchanging.
I don't get this praise of voice commands... I've yet to see any car where the voice commands work very well at all; they tend to be so frustrating that many people (including myself) never use them... And, if you're talking to somebody in the car or on the phone, or listening to music, or doing something else, you don't want to use some hit-or-miss computer voice system to try to do something that you should be able to do with simple buttons/knobs.
Dan Green
All you need do to get relevant phrases that it understands is to ask "help". Try it for temperature control first, where it is infallible. Just say "temperature 23" [if Celcius]].
I do not use it for the phone, because or precise navigation in Wales, because it doesn’t do Welsh names, so it certainly has limitations. It’s great for choosing FM or DAB but then I toggle through pre-set stations which are in order, by using the steering wheel or controls either side of the volume knob below the screen. When it really isn’t convenient to use voice control, there are alternatives. There’s the pop-up menu on the dash, controlled by the steering wheel buttons, or indeed there is the Sensus screen itself. Anything other than basic settings are best done when parked, although HVAC alterations are dead simple once you’ve used. It a few times, although it’s so simple to use voice, I seldom do.
I can understand that some people will just not adapt to this kind of control system and that therefore this series of Volvo and cars like it are just not for them. Personally I find it simple, intuitive and far less detracting from driving the car than physical controls spread over the dashboard.
Another great video
My 1998 Volvo S90 has the composite rear leaf. Interesting to see it on such a new platform.
The S60 was in my short list, I bought the new Lincoln MKZ with AWD and the 3.0 twin turbo making 400/400 and while I wish Lincoln had moved to the bigger screens I am in love with the hot rod Lincoln. A poor kid in a new V6 camaro found out the new Lincoln had more going than he expected, I smoked him to the merge, which is something I rarely do but this guy was asking for it. The Volvo has better interior quality even though Lincoln has gotten way better but the only Volvo to match this MKZ is the Inscription which was 15k more, and I couldn't justify that cost. Good review as always, I love Volvo, just not at their price levels.
Thank you for this review! I bought my 2017 S90 largely on the basis of your recommendation, and have not been disappointed at all. This car, however, is calling to me, and I am excited to test drive it when it comes to my local dealer. I have to ask you, though, how did you manage to get this car somewhere in the Northern Central part of the country (I'm guessing), when everyone else had it in California? And thank you for not wasting my time with a review of the Polestar Engineered version, a 20 car run that sold out in less than an hour, so why would we want to hear about it?
Always fantastic reviews. This is a little off topic but who did the music for the introduction? It's great.
A very honest review 👍🏼
Trying to understand your point regarding the engine. It sounded like you were saying that the T6 with the turbo and supercharger could be future problems. However, what do you think of the T5 which only has the turbo? Do you think that model is better with less/no future problems?
How about making a list of songs of the soundtrack of your videos available on Spotify?
Good insightful video, as always.
Thank you Savagegeese for another unbiased review.
Thank you SavageGeese for another excellent video. I bought a used 2013 S60 T5 in 2016. Had a couple of visits to the dealer. Thats the thing, Europeans vs Japanese, long life quality. Had Honda /Acura for more that 25 years: so smooth nothing. But When you sit and drive the S60, man this wows you compared to others. Keep them reviews, we need them ! :-)
The beauty of the plastic transverse leaf spring is that it is intrinsically an anti-roll device, which means that it not only replaces individual springs but also the complete anti-roll bar system.
The design is super classy and the Aisin transmission is a huge plus. Time will tell if that tiny turbo four-pot can hold up.
I was sold on this wonderful car, until I went to test drive the last car on my list. The Alfa Romeo Giulia captured my heart, and now almost 4 years later, I'm still in love with it.
Have you ever had any serious problems with the giulia?
@@JasonNelson-lj4oz None.
@Savagegeese have you driven the new 3 series? if so how does it stack up against the s60?
Great synopsis on the new S60. I don't think I would personally be interested in any volvo there is just way too much going on but cars will always have the advantage over an SUV. I hope people will start seeing that more and more. This touchscreen obsession is also a problem, in my G80 climate controls take forever to load
solid video.... again! :-) Please do a review on the Jaguar XE R-Sport or XE S :-)
Thank you for a great review! But may I ask you why you think that there will be problems down the road and that one should avoid buying it for long term use? What kind of problems more specifically do you think one will face? I am asking as I am thinking of buying this car as a FWD T5 for long term use (around 8 years). Thanks.
Another excellent review. This looks like a real winner. Maybe the complicated
engine will withstand the years people put on it.
It's really good looking !
Such a beautiful car.
Was going to say looks like Wisconsin but clearly it's Minnesota beautiful can't wait to get this or the big T esla in ten years
I’m contemplating between getting this car with the T5 engine and the new BMW 330i. Which of the two would be more reliable and cheaper to maintain over a 10 year period? Thanks!
It's a great car, reminds me of my Saab 9-3 Aero in design philosophy- simple interior and not too attention grabbing. Pretty quick but not too quick and comfortable but sporty enough for great handling.
I love my e90 BMW for the exact reasons that you dislike this car. All of the controls in the BMW are physical and easy to use. It also has a naturally aspirated straight 6 that is reliable. Too much tech/complication to be fuel efficient in today's modern cars in my opinion. Great review as always sir.
oh man. i love my e90, but i couldn't put up with the NA 330i. too damn slow. got tired of getting overtaken by camrys, sold after 4 months. ive had my 335i for 5 years. the e90 is incredible!
@Stereo Typist haha. Maybe. But not anymore babeh 😎 335i is best
@Homber Sweatson the engines are lol
@Homber Sweatson pffft. Shows what you know.
Volvo is ranked by Direct UK (largest extended warranty company in UK) as one of the top 5 most reliable engine builders vs BMW being ranked in as one bottom worst. Volvo has been building reliable Forced Aspiration engines for decades!
Great video, what about S60 T5 or T4 models are they good for long-term ownership? Thinking to buy and own one next year.
Is the basic starting model with engine 190h just slower on acceleration or will owner miss something else next to model with 250h or top model? Thank you
A couple years later, we now have about 5 years of cars out there with this twin charged motor and it seems to be holding up pretty well. Perhaps more reliability than originally anticipated?
This is beautiful
This is nice guys. I need a custom colored blue or green one cause I'm sure it would look sick. I'm rooting for a new C30 ! Let's make it happen, Volvo !
Do you know if there is a big difference on the drivetrain/powertrain from this model to the prior few years?
Great review as usual.
Can you review the Jaguar XF Sportbrake please?
I'm trying to decide between the V60 or the Sportbrake.
Hi Mark. I'm scouting the S90 as opposed to this. How similar is the driving experience between the two. Is the S90 at least nine tenths the overall feeling of this new S60?
It's a small thing, but I'm glad you mentioned the B&W sound system. Since I don't drag race or do the Jeep Rubicon trail challenge I'm more into finding out things like, Does this car have a decent stereo system for a daily driver. Of course, I can't afford a B&W sound system, but it's nice to dream.
Very nice interior, I love it. Now do a review on the new Honda Accord Sport. 👍💕
And the best part is; it also comes as a station (V60) 🙄
The V60 T6 wagon is at the top of my list for sure. Bee-youtiful design and smart engineering. Volvo is BACK!
Just leased a XC60 T6 R-Design. It also has air suspension and heated/cooled massage seats.
Can you do a review of the veloster N!? Im debating an 86 vs GTI vs Veloster N for purchase next summer. Thanks man your the best!
I kind of like the 2000's s60r more. Sleek design. Looks good but not overly aggressive or anything.
Glad to see Volvo is still making cool cars though.
I just bought a 2021 S60 R-DESIGN which was a CPO with less than 30k on the odo and I can't get enough of driving it. It's easily the nicest car I've ever owned and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The only thing lacking in my car is the B&W audio system. Seats are fantastic and so comfortable. The Harman Kardon sound system is great despite it not having the fancy stuff. Didnt get the flappy paddles and don't think they're needed.
If this is Volvo going forward, they're set for a bright future. Until i have serious issues, I'd highly recommend this car as an alternative to the usual Germans (and i say this as a former BMW owner).
I’m surprised to hear about the infotainment. I have an ‘18 xc60 R and it’s incredible. Very intuitive system. I haven’t found an interior that is as well laid out anywhere else either. I’m curious to drive an S60 with the same engine bc it get business done in my much heavier version. And I need to hear that sound system!