Counting calories CAN be helpful though... I take meds for ADHD so my body can’t always tell me when it’s hungry. Counting made me realize I wasn’t eating nearly enough and that helped explain why I had been so tired
Same. I have anorexic tendencies and counting at this point helps me know I ate enough even if I hate the number. Because I cope with restriction it helps me knowing I ate enough to be hormonally balanced and enough to get me enough calories to work out heavy. Idkif that makes sense lmao 😂
Part of my disability means I don’t know when I’m hungry a lot of the time and, before I put any structure in place, could easily forget to eat anything for over a week because I didn’t know I was hungry! Sometimes people can’t reply on eating intuitively or listening to our bodies and DO need an app or something!
Same, my meds for adhd completely turn off my appetite so if I don't count calories I will go a whole day on one meal and not even feel it. Because you don't have that physical reminder of being hungry you don't even think about it. I was literally accused of being anorexic because I lost a ton of weight before they adjusted my minds. I had no way to explain it to people when they asked how I lost weight because it wasn't me intentionally starving myself. It was me not eating. Which me not eating to most people automatically="I'm starving myself". Because when you're not hungry, you don't think about food.
Yea,same! I have tried to lose weight many times relying on "intuitive eating" and it has never worked out for me. I just eat too much if i do that. If im counting calories i know what i eat, when and I am never hungry. I track my three meals and my snacks and i eat, i never starve. So for each person is different...
Okay. I'm 26 minutes into this video and there is one thing that really stands out about Abbey's perspective here: she doesn't seem to understand the concept of food addiction. Food addiction is similar to alcoholism. You would not tell an alcoholic that throwing out all of their alcohol is "too extreme" because "someone who has a healthy relationship with alcohol wouldn't need to do that." An alcoholic DOESN'T have a healthy relationship with alcohol. That's the point. Food addicts like myself don't have a healthy relationship with food. We NEED to purge some of these foods from our homes, our patterns, etc., because the temptation to fall back into old habits is too strong. I'm glad that Abbey has a good relationship with food. I am glad that she is able to listen to her body and know what she needs/wants. I am glad intuitive eating works for her. My intuition, however, was brutally murdered by 28 years of food addiction. Instead of hearing that I need to listen to my body, I need to hear _how_ to do that. I apologize if this comes off as ranting, but I hope my perspective helps explain why "intuitive eating" isn't possible for a lot of people at this specific stage in their lives.
Intuitive eating is possible to you, but you need to see a mental health professional to get into the reason why you feel the need to binge. Alcoholics don't just binge drink because they think its fun, they do it to cope with their lives. Also, you don't need alcohol to live. No licensed doctor or dietitian would tell you to stop eating food. I have an eating disorder which consists of restricting(and I mean like 400-600 max calories) or fasting and sometimes binging. I know what binging is like and if I felt like binging I would eat a ton of food until I felt like I couldn't move. The point of intuitive eating is to eat when you're hungry(and not just peckish, but hungry) and stop when full. I don't know what your story is, but there is always a reason why you're binging; whether its because you were restricting, or to deal with stress, or whatever else. But lots of people overcome binge eating due to dieting with intuitive eating, and after someone overcame whatever traumatic/stressful event led them to binge eating, intuitive eating would be a good way for them to continue and avoid relapse.
Kenna is correct. And people who say food addiction is as easy as listen to when your body says you are hungry has never had it. My body says eat a whole pizza in one sitting, it down say be intuitive and eat a salad and chicken. Food addiction doesn't always have a deep emotional trigger sometimes it's caused by poor diet growing up which then continues because your body craves what it eats so it tells you to eat bad foods. Food addicts aren't typically addicted to salads and grilled chicken. Usually it's sweets and treats, fats and carbs that then prompt your body to crave more and need more because it doesn't satiate you.
Then you need to read the Intuitive Eating book that all this intuitive eating talk originated from. Available on Amazon and at all good bookstores. It is NOT your intuition that's telling you to eat a family sized pizza and a bucket of ice cream every day. Just like it isn't your intuition that tells you to down a bottle of vodka before 10am every morning. ANY addiction is a psychological/ mental health issue and that's where you need to do the work. If an alcoholics problem was alcohol all you'd need to do is not have alcohol in the house and then look at that, you're cured! But we all know that's not how it works. Remove all the 'junk' from your house if you want, but it isn't going to cure your food addiction either because it isn't the food that's the problem.
I understad what you're saying juicy. And the whole removing the junk from the house helps mentally so much more than you would imagine. It's like a cycle thats one i personally cant seem to shake off. I'll have a taste and then i have to have the rest. No thought process just blank mind. 15 mins later i come to my senses and realise how much i ate. Rinse clean repeat. Not having the food i would normally binge on around helps with the healing process so much more and in turn helps being 'intuitive' with my food.
YES!!! 👏 At first, I was thinking of subscribing. But then I quickly realized that she doesn't understand disordered eating. Like good for you that you have a freezer of frozen cookies that you rarely think of them. you obviously don't have a food addiction.
I feel that you don't take into account that some people never learned to eat intuitively and that constant weight gain and diets made them unable to realize or even get the signals for hunger and satiety. If you don't realize that you're full, it does help to try to use some kind of counting system to not overindulge. I find it very dangerous to tell an obese person to just eat what their body tells them to. Also this "I have loads of sweet snacks in the house and I don't think about them" - good for you. But people who have problems with overeating hardly ever think about anything else. So not having the foods in the house can be helpful. I wish you would give advice for people who struggle with eating and not for people who have no problem with it.
I think a lot of her advice on those points are beyond her credentials. Eating disorders are a mental illness and she is not qualified to treat eating disorders alone. She doesn't seem to understand EDs and people who don't know how to eat properly.
This is a really important point that I don't see specifically covered a lot from the intuitive eating crowd - 3 1/2 years ago I was 200 pounds overweight. I HAD to get a handle on what a reasonable amount of food (and therefore a reasonable amount of calories) per day was, and intuitive eating was not going to get me there at that point. Now, MAYBE if I had been working very closely with a registered dietitian during that process, but honestly, that's not accessible for most folks $ wise. Something like MyFitnessPal is. Over time I learned a lot about myself, my body, why I overate, etc, and NOW I do practice a more intuitive style of eating (although honestly I still track calories in my head and as someone who has had to lose 200 pounds, I don't really care what anyone else thinks about that). There's not one magic "thing" that will work for everyone, and as great as I think intuitive eating is, that includes intuitive eating (at least to me, but I'm not an RD etc).
I'm one of those people that can't keep unhealthy food in the house. Processed snacks and sweets are designed to be addictive after all. I did a huge eye roll when she said she is never tempted by the treats she has at home: this is not the case for so many people, and it's really good advice for people that struggle with overeating not to wear down their self control by constantly being around unhealthy things when they are trying to make lifestyle changes.
Same here. Any sweet treats in my house will be on my mind constantly until I eat all of them. Take biscuits for example, I tell myself I’m only going to eat three and then before you know it I’ve eaten the whole packet. It doesn’t work for healthy food either. I make healthy low calorie salads, vegan curries and lentil bolognese with zucchini noodles and still overeat because I don’t know when I’m full. My boyfriend can open a packet of sweets, eat a few and save the rest for later but I can’t do that. Once it’s open it’s gone.
hey! as a dietitian in the making, I believe temporarily keeping track of food can be incredibly helpful! I feel a lot of people lose the ability to eat “intuitively” and need help relearning how to eat. I don’t understand the new stigma around calorie counting when it can help people become more self aware. I understand that those with disordered eating would find it to be triggering but not everyone struggles with this in which case they should be seen by a psychiatrist not only an RD! Also, if everyone ate whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, then it would be challenging to help people reach their goals. For some it could be the goal to lose weight for surgery, lower their blood pressure, decrease their risk for diabetes, prepare their body for pregnancy, or just generally live a more healthy lifestyle. Not sure if I completely agree with this 🧐
Abbey Sharp has a very bad reputation. Dieticians don't usually serve a one-size-fits-all recipe like she does and you would be better off not taking her as an example.
I guess is hard for her because she has never experienced food addiction, i am a RD, and had anorexia, bulimia in my teenage years and a bitof my adulthood. studying nutrition and loving biochemistry made me realize we do need to eat. But then i started binge eating because although i stopped being anorexic and bulimic, the problem lied behind the reason i was using food as a coping mechanism, is so much more complex than just nutrition. i guess the first step is being aware of those patterns, and next working on solutions, and sometimes not keeping sugary foods on the pantry helps, and not watching model blogs or triggering content. Not all approaches are good for everyone and nutritionists and therapists have to work together to come ip with the best plan for each individual and it is definetly a process. I am now mostly healthy, and on a healthy relationship with food but it was definetly an ups and down process.
Alejandra Valenzuela abbey has actually come out to say that she did have orthorexia. I do think that she needs to be more sensitive to those who truly need help especially mentally.
@@crexx8296 She WAS deep in the diet culture, she now eats intuitively and she hasn't done a "cheat day" for at least a year, because she no longer restricts.
Intuitive eating is the key honestly. Yes it’s wonderful to have multiple servings of all food groups everyday. But if one day you feel like eating nothing but starchy carbs that’s what you want. Eat it. Never forcing yourself to eat what you don’t want to.
Random Bowl of Oatmeal sounds awesome, but I always try to have a cup of moringa water everyday because I feel like it makes my skin better - I never feel like drinking it though, it‘s absolutely disgusting! 😅😂 so maybe forcing yourself can be good in moderation... (Sorry for any mistakes, I‘m German) ☺️
I had some issues with some parts of this video. For me, someone with disordered eating habits, food tracker apps really helped me get myself on track because I don't really have an ability to eat intuitively. When I eat "intuitively" I don't eat enough calories to maintain a healthy weight because I don't enjoy eating and eat very unbalanced because my body just doesn't feel hunger the same way other people's do. I look past it far too easily. The only way for me to get to 105 lbs which I am at now was to regularly track my food to make sure I was eating more calories than I was burning every day I really enjoy your videos I just don't really understand/agree with certain aspects of it.
I have the same problem with hunger. I find when I’m not actively thinking about/tracking what I’m eating I eat about 500 calories less than what I should and I’m typically eating a bunch of carbs and nothing else. For me it really just works as a reminder to actually eat a balanced meal so after a while it becomes habit.
Not a dietian or an expert at all, but from my personal experience i’ve seen that tracking calories/macros can trigger unhealthy eating habits. I’ve struggled with eating disoders for most of my life, but it’s when I started using a tracking app that I fell in the black hole of orthorexia (“clean” eating and over exercising). I might be wrong, but I remember Abbey talking about her struggle with orthorexia, so that might be why she promotes “Intuitive eating” over tracking calories/macros. Of course, if it works for you it’s great! It’s all about the mind set you approach this kind of apps :)
Would you tell an alcoholic to “drink intuitively”? You’re not an addiction specialist, many people are literally addicted to (certain) food, like sugar. However unlike drugs or alcohol it’s nearly impossible to cut out. Tracking is the next best thing because it teaches you what is actually in your food (sugar in tomato sauce, for example) so you can make informed choices if/when you get to a stage when you can eat “intuitively”.
TacoBell Is my name yes it is. Explain why people have sugar withdrawals symptoms??? You can watch 1000s of people cut out sugar and they all have withdrawal symptoms. Also Harvard University did a study that found sugar to be as addictive as cocaine. Sugar releases dopamine in the brain just like cocaine does. It affects some people more than others. I’ve experienced sugar addiction myself by the way.
I wouldn’t call 2 hours after a meal “fasting” before exercising... but I personally have to wait minimum an hour before exercising after eating due to my GI disorders.
@@AbbeysKitchen Wow. This is a gross oversimplification. It's clear you've never really struggled with overeating. It's great that you've found something that works for you, i.e. intuitive eating, but it's not necessarily for everyone or as simple as you make it out to be.
you can eat it everyday! just make it at home and make it healthy. i have a literal pizza problem and can/WILL eat it all day everyday if i can lol. Get na'an bread and use it as your own individual sized pizza crust. good luck love :)
@@AbbeysKitchen can you explain more on that. I am scared to death of intuitive eating because I just eat too much of anything... if it's apple I can up to 10..... if pizza an entire family size has mentioned in the original comment haha. I can't seem to be able to listen to those body cues you mentioned. I love eating and cannot stop myself.
For background on her “psycho nutritionist” comment it was a nutritionist who was having her eat foods which were causing her to gain weight and feel low energy (bowls on bowls of white rice and bread), was constantly trying to get her to go on a date, and was constantly name dropping his celeb clients all the time to try and keep her interested. And when she didn’t want to see him anymore he started harassing her and reaching out to other clients to text her to vouch for him 😬
Don’t forget the protein powder and supplements. He made her throw her away her protein powder and buy a brand he recommended, and when she spoke to him and said, “this protein powder’s number one ingredient is corn syrup,” and then listed off the rest of the ingredients, he went, “oh yeah, that’s total crap, don’t use that, it has total junk in it.” Or forcing her to buy all those vitamin and mineral pills, taking 7 at a time, when her normal multivitamin contained most of those vitamins already and she was simply doubling or tripling up and peeing out the excess or in danger of vitamin toxicity, and he went, “no, no, you need these, we’re fixing your internal issues before we can work on the outside!” Or the sexually inappropriate comments, or invitation to Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s house for dinner, or trying to badmouth Gabbie to her own trainer via another client of his. Or my personal favorite: “Are you on your period?” “Yes, why?” “So I know exactly how crazy you get every month.” Allegedly, since storytime UA-camr, but if even ONE of those anecdotes is true... just one of them in the entire video... Christ on a bike...
Haha, yeah. In the video without context it sounded like psychonutritionist was a pseudoscientific weird person, but yeah, she just meant her nutritionist was "psycho."
Shelby Beasley okay I’m laughing at myself here 😂 I thought someone decided to specialize in nutrition for psychological issues 😂😂 I started read bowls of white rice and was confused. Then I realize he was acting psychotic. Thank you for clearing that up. (My professor that specialized in psychology medications stressed the importance of nutrition in addition to treatment. Psycho-nutritionist sounded like a new field. )
A lot of mental issues go into eating habits though so dietitians are informed on psychology and the impact it has on health behaviors. They have to know this to help people who emotionally eat or undereat
@@xosecox12 I don't disagree with that, but I was pointing out how she isn't a psychologist to be a bit snarky because she has a tendency to try and diagnose things through videos, and projects her own past eating disorder onto everyone else. She is overly critical of things that are specific triggers for herself but can be perfectly normal behaviors for someone else, and is always pushing intuitive eating since it helped her as if it's a cure-all method for any disordered eating. I don't like how she is as a dietitian, so I definitely don't think she should leave her lane.
I think intuitive eating is a great concept in theory but lots of people (myself included) have issues either over or under eating, so for them, calorie tracking might actually be beneficial
I found that for myself, tracking for a while and then just eating intuitively worked. I definitely think if you've either restricted or overeaten for a while, your intuitions might be a little messed up and getting back into a healthy balance can take some time. It is a hard balance because as others have said, if I full on just listened to what my body wanted I would be eating cheeseburgers and cupcakes all day. 😂😂😂 But again, I have found that if I meal plan, track, and stick to that for a while I feel better and my intuitions tend to reflect that.
Emily intuitive eating has really helped me because i have a history of binging! i am so happy the people in my life don’t force me to eat/ stop me from eating when i know what’s best for me
I'm on medications that mess with my intuition, so this. If I listened to when I was hungry, I would never eat and just be constantly hungry but never actually recognize I was hungry, because my brain wouldn't signal it until I have a hunger headache and I'm lethargic. So it's not for everyone! (Common side effect and why it's used as a weight loss drug in the short term.)
I think you're right. People who have internalized poor eating habits would probably need to sort of train for better ones. For example, measuring out 4 oz. of chicken breast can be a good way to get a good idea of what "a serving" looks like. Eventually, intuitive eating can be achieved and that obsessive measuring can be dropped.
Yeah my trainer just got me to feel strong enough mentally to start tracking my calories and macros and the first day I entered what I ate I was shocked to realize I wasn’t even eating enough to sustain a child so counting makes me stay on top of my issues with extreme under-eating then binging once my body can’t take it
Can you please make a separate video entirely on intuitive eating? I've come from a very restrictive eating phase (of almost 4 years) and for the past month I've eaten anything and everything and put on a lot of weight. I know this is a result of that restriction but now I'm trying to eat intuitively because it doesn't seem like any particular diet is sustainable for the long term. I'd love to learn more about it from an actual dietitian!
in the meantime as someone who was/is in a similar position, just takes time to remember how to eat. I'm finally getting there my self control is actually better than most people's now because I know how bad it feels to binge or restrict
I’m going to have to agree with Gabby on this one. When I started counting my calories it really helped me and my journey of losing weight because it made me realise to eat the better foods. So I would say its not right to look down on people who needs to count calories to be successful in their health habits.
If I had a freezer full of cookies and ice cream, I would pound them every day. You may have the willpower to not do that, but other people don't. I know that cookies aren't good for my body, so it's a good idea for me not to buy/bake them. I don't see why this is "diet culture" language. Otherwise, great video!
One cookie won't make you fat just like one salad won't make you skinny. Cookies and ice cream aren't "bad" foods they just don't have as much nutrients as fruits or veg. Again the Abby says everything is healthy in moderation.
@@socialinteraction_8252 but the point is these foods are designed to make you keep eating them. I have learned to only buy single servings of them, so I can just eat it all without overindulging. And I don’t think calorie tracking is neurotic, it’s just a minute on an app a few times of day to make sure I’m getting a healthy amount of food. Not too much, not too little. I actually went out and got an ice cream cone as a snack yesterday because I would have had too few calories otherwise.
I honestly believe this has to do with not eating enough regularly, otherwise. I used to have this same problem and think the same thing, until I really started listening to my body and eating A LOT more throughout the day, as i started working out more as well. And now when I’m not hungry and I’m TRULY not hungry. For nothing.
Although, it will take a while to get there and if you’ve been under eating for as long as you can remember, as I was, (expect for the occasional binges, that you felt disgusting for but really was your body begging for help) then it will be super hard bc it’s your “normal” state. But yea what helped me was big breakfasts full of fruit and grains and hardy smoothies and yea if your in the mood too binge... try thinking of fruit or whole grains.
Cus typically a “binge” has to do with processed grains and sugar... like cookies... bc your body is actually begging for sugar and grains and those foods give you the highest amount the fastest. So you have to start slowly switching it out.
I'm a Registered Dietitian who finds the fitness/calorie counting apps extremely helpful for my patients. They them be more conscious about what they are putting into their bodies. Unfortunately, we are not all able to say "hey, I'm going to eat intuitively today." Most people have no idea how to do so! It's a skill that most of us lose. Just my two cents, love your videos!
Emma D I’m not a dietitian but I was thinking the same thing. I’m mostly recovered from an eating disorder but my food intuition is still off because I was restrictive for so long. I use a food tracking app to make sure I eat enough calories- sometimes I have to eat a little bit more even after I feel full. In an ideal world everyone would intuitive eat perfectly, but that advice only works if your intuition is right
Yeah, I think my intuition is all messed up. I always want to eat until I’m stuffed, not just satiated. I think this stems from childhood and always being told to finish everything and always getting bigger portions than I needed. As a result, my intuition is me eating way too many calories every time. I have found the app LoseIt to be very helpful in realizing what is enough.
Agree that it’s not a switch, but I find it’s more triggering than anything for most people. If they’re done with the support of a RD in someone who has a clear history without disordered eating, I think there may be a place in clinical settings. But I cannot recommend them across the board.
Kylie Andrea see when I read this it reaffirms that I feel icky about these apps. I think the chronic dieting needs to be dealt with first through therapy and then you can learn to more effectively listen to your body. There are clinical settings where eating beyond satiety is necessary (ie ED recovery etc.) but for the average person this sounds like just burying yourself deeper into diet mentality
@@kaylzzzza they have to make their bodies as dry as possible, to show their muscles. My boyfriend has done that once and we almost broke up, he had no energy, we couldnt go anywhere, he was always nervous and angry. If was baaaad
"I can honestly say that I have a freezer full of cookies and ice cream and a pantry stuffed with chocolate and I rarely, rarely think about it." And that's nice for you, lady, but clearly you don't understand how it feels to not be able to leave those things where they are and not obsess over them. Not even bringing the temptation into the house is how I don't eat that whole freezer full of cookies.
jangeltrain you are doing the most and need to chill as someone that has an still is suffering from bulimia- I don’t personally keep these things in my house because i can’t control myself. HOWEVER she is just speaking and you can click off! 💜
i think she's just pointing out that if you're scared of having sweets and junk food at home, your relationship to food might not be very healthy. a lot of people who have this kind of stuff at home, don't obsess over it because they have a good relationship to food. if i'd have a freezer full of cookies, i'd probably eat them in one sitting and then starve for like a week, but most 'healthy' people are not like that.
As someone who had never been taught what a reasonable portion of food looks like, and who’s mind and body never says “stop eating” until overly full, tracking calories allowed me to learn roughly what portion sizes are suitable for me. I think it’s a bit optimistic to think intuitive eating works for every, if even most, people.
I have to pull you up on a couple of things that you said in this video. Firstly, it seems to me that the people who predominantly slam calorie counting, like you did in this video, are people who, a) have a history of disordered eating, and b) people who have never struggled with being overweight. Calorie counting can be an useful tool for educating people on food and how to construct a well balanced diet, especially when they are in the beginning stages of losing weight/improving their diet. As someone who has struggled with being overweight, I found calorie counting incredibly helpful. It helped me to see when I was overeating and also when I was under eating. Calorie counting only becomes a problem when a person becomes fixated/reliant on it. Calorie counting does not trigger an ED or cause problems for every one who does it. That is an instant of blaming the tool rather than the user. It's also like saying everyone who drinks will become an alcoholic. Secondly, it annoyed me when you basically bragged how you can have a freezer/cupboard full of ice cream and cookies and rarely touch them. While I agree that a healthy diet and attitude towards food incorporates treats (what is typically deemed as 'bad' food), for some people, like myself, having these kinds of foods in the house can be challenging. As someone who struggles with comfort eating, if I had blocks of chocolate in the cupboard or a litre of ice cream in the freezer, when I'm emotionally distressed, I would grab those foods and over consume them. I would much rather have my treats outside of the home or buy a single serve item to take home. I have a healthier mindset if those foods aren't in the house, because they will trigger my unhealthy eating patterns and coping mechanisms. It's just like how restrictive diets, such as veganism, or calorie counting will trigger your disordered eating. Basically, you need to be careful of how you allow your personal experience with food and disordered eating to colour how you view and ultimately judge other people's perfectly legitimate habits and the tools they use to maintain a healthy weight.
I agree as someone who has had a binge eating disorder (not purging) I CANNOT intuitively eat. I don’t get hungry and I binge even when full. So calories and having set food plans are great.
MollyTornado YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded. I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. I saw 3 health professionals and each of them saw me as an overweight girl who snacked too much. I always felt unheard and incapable after trying to seek help for my binge eating. One lady told me it was due to my anxiety, which i have never been diagnosed with not did she diagnose me with it. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. If i have treats in my home I WILL eat it and most likely it will be gone in one sitting. I envy people who can forget about the chocolate in their cupboard or the ice cream in their freezer. No matter how great my relationship with food will be, I will never be able to just have cookies and other treats in my house. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
Basically, you need to not tell a licensed professional how to do her job. You have no authority on this topic - you’re just a hit dog howling. FYI if you’re calorie counting all the time and can never gain an equilibrium - congratulations, you’re a disordered eater.
Oooo please review Jordan Shrinks. She's a weight loss UA-camr who is also vegan and she does veganism in a way I haven't really seen in other vegan UA-camrs.
haley young Jordan has since talked about how the way she used to eat when she was first losing weight, including when she did the potato diet, was overboard and not healthy.
"We do not need an app to tell us what to eat" No offense, but clearly you have never been overweight/obese. I used eat intuitively and became morbidly obese. I didn't eat a lot, I ate the wrong things. So I started to use an app to track my calories. I have now lost 40kg in 8 months without feeling hungry and I have never felt better.
btw for Abbey the "psycho nutritionist" really was specific to that nutritionist. Gabbie even has a super long storytime about his bad advice, the inappropriate comments he made to her, and the fact that he was a compulsive liar and attempted to be manipulative. She was not making a comment on nutritionists in general--just that one specifically.
@@ashleyzeleznik5388 late reply but binging old videos while work is slow. Yes you're right, but they isn't what Gabby meant. She literally has a psycho ("crazy") nutritionist story
I love the idea of intuitive eating and not tracking calories, however my intuition never tells me to stop eating and it never tells me to eat healthy foods. 😂 I feel like I have to use an calorie app as a sort of guideline to prevent myself from the health risks associated with being overweight and to make sure I’m getting enough nutrients. Maybe there’s a secret to it that I’m not aware of, but my intuition always tells me to pick up a big plate of Zaxby’s. Lol
Also it seems like you would have to track your eating to get the percentages of protein, fats, and carbohydrates you use to evaluate the diets in the end.
Exactly! I feel like with how our society is and the quick access to food, it’s best to track what you eat for at least a little while and then you mentally will know what to eat. But starting from the jump, unless you have a VERY healthy up bringing, intuitive eating may not work.
Same here! Tracking really helped at first and now I don’t track. I was eating healthy foods but huge portions and healthy snacks. Now that I’ve cut that down I’m much healthier And happier!
I really enjoy most of her content but I cannot get behind intuitive eating at all. I love having an app that helps me realize how much or how little I'm eating
I need to know approximately how many calories I'm eating otherwise I'll either restrict or eat way too much. I'd love to eat intuitively, but for the moment, I need to be aware and mindful of my meals.
I'm hoping to 'calorie count' (~50 cal averages) until I establish a routine. I notice that if I eat a certain way, then my body gets used to the meal sizes. That's the level of "sustainability" I'm aiming for. :3
Abbey Sharp I would really appreciate you having an expert on answering questions about over eating and eating disorders related to that. Intuitive eating is a dangerous concept to start with for those kinds of eating disorders. I know you say to each their own, but it feels frustrating to me that you readily point out triggering or problematic thinking for bulimia or anorexia but ignore the converse. I appreciate your personal experience with your own eating, but I don’t think you realize intuitive eating doesn’t work for many eating disorders that are different from what you experienced.
I had the issue of just not being super hungry. Turns out I had depression and anxiety, once those were treated my food aversions went away and now I need to watch my portions.
You should Review how monami Frost feeds her children. Seems she is feeding her eldest daughter an unhealthy diet (mostly carbs/fat lack of essential nutrients that could easily be fixed with chickpeas, lentils )..she also omits information on supplements. Aside from unnatural vegan most vegans tend to feed their kids unhealthy diets and dont mention supplements. Monami Frost seems to also have problems breastfeeding. Which could be due to their low fat low-protein diet so she is using alternative herbal supplements to increase her milk production
my family eats a vegan (whole foods plant based) diet. my spouse, and two kids all take supplements and get all of our vaccines. not all vegan families do crazy vegan diets and wowo alternative medicine practices! ;) cheers to a healthy diet and lifestyle 🌱
@@Siqaiyuk which is why I referenced unnatural vegan...because most vegan youtubers have unhealthy parenting with Raw foods, lack of legumes, heavy on fruit and low in fat (children need fat and protein. ) Congratulations on your family
i normally love abbey's videos but i feel like she jumped in over her head here. to my knowledge, abbey is not a trained psychologist specializing in eating disorders, but she makes a lot of judgements that gabbie's diet is disorderly(even though she clearly is aware that gabbie had an ED and obviously will always have a different relationship to food than someone who never had disordered eating habits). i would not be surprised if gabbie has still been working on her eating habits in the time since this video was posted and will probably continue for years. using a calorie tracking app can be very important for people who never learned how to eat intuitively. same with tempting snacks(ex-alcoholics typically don't collect wine). all things are good in moderation, but if you haven't learned how to self-moderate yet, then its easier to keep stuff you struggle with outside of your house. people with healthy relationships with food may not need to "purge their house of sugar" but we already know that gabbie has a history of issues there and recovery can take the rest of your life. gabbie even addressed this in her intro pointing out that this is what worked for her and that if you obsessed over calories you needed to get professional help. i don't know gabbie so i'm not going to make a call on what is remnants of disordered eating or what is techniques to slowly transition into healthier eating, but these are possibilities. you bragging about how YOU can have your house packed with snacks without even thinking about it does not mean that the same goes for everyone.
A neuroscientist’s critique on this video: A big part of creating and maintaining healthy habits is to rely on willpower as little as possible. If it takes willpower to keep from binging on sweets, you probably shouldn’t buy them and especially shouldn’t have a freezer full. You might not even want to go into the snack/cookie/ice cream aisle at the grocery store. Humans consistently over estimate their own willpower so if you design a life that doesn’t require much use of will power, you will have healthier habits.
I think your commentary is great, but I really do think she has a point when talking about calorie tracking when you are gaining weight and don't know why (personal experience). When I used it to retrain my idea of what "enough" was, my appetite fluctuations really calmed down and it became intuitive, and I was able to move forward without it.
I have found the in-between is also helpful for me! I use the tracker to keep me from binge eating but I don't fuss if I go over it just keeps me on track
This is the first time I would disagree with Abbey. I am someone who has nearly lost half their size, but still has the stomach capacity to eat waaaay more than someone who is naturally at my current size, and so if I eat intuitively I could easily get 4000 kcals in.. one single sitting! Having to count macros and calories and stick to a high protein diet has made me experiment with so many low calorie dense foods that are high in micronutrients. I learned that volume is key when you want to build muscle and stay lean and full. However I will say that counting calories on a diet that requires you to eat a lot of high calorie foods such as Keto will mess you up and set you for failure, since even the tiny bit of fatty foods/meats are always higher in calories compared to lean/low fat animal products. E.g 100 g of bacon has around 500 kcals, whereas 100 g of shrimp is only about 100 or so 😅
Also I forgot to add while some people from an overweight background tend to overeat and snack unconsciously, others who are skinny and want to add mass to fill out their frame will often undereat, saying that they see food consumption as a chore and are “intuitively” less hungry during the day..
Agreed. I’ve struggled with low appetite on and off for years and some days felt unable to eat food at all. I still can not eat much by volume, even when my appetite is better, because my IBS is triggered by larger meals. Tracking my calories on occaison is very important for me to make sure I’m eating enough, especially on those days where I can barely tolerate volume. I simply can’t intuitively tell how to pack the most calories per volume with the exception of ice cream and cookies, which is not the kind of thing you want to eat when you have no appetite.
Daé J Keto is high fat, low to moderate protein and barely any carbs (if you’re doing it right). Low carb is not as restrictive and therefore is way easier to track, and less triggering. Also its important to choose a “diet” that you can sustain for a lifetime even after you reach your target so you don’t fall back into your old eating habits. Good luck with your weight loss sweetie x
SGqtr thank you for the definition, but yes I’m well aware of what either or means. With Keto there’s actually a spectrum between 20-50 grams of carbs, low carb is anything 100grams or lower. Also I will personally be doing either one for a lifetime because my health depends on it.
Hey Abbey! Could you by chance do an entire video on intuitive eating? An in depth of what it is, how to start and resources to get even more information would be awesome!
Eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full. That's all there is to say. Intuitive eating is exactly that - intuitive. Abbey has made this clear in several videos.
@@JB-rh7ej for some people, it's not as clear cut. like for me. i struggled with disordered eating for years and now, if i feel like i haven't eaten enough, I'll "make up for it". a lot of people are the same. or due to their environment and how they grew up, the way they eat isn't intuitive at all, and they have to unlearn it. sometimes intuitive eating is also around what to eat for your body. it's more than just "eat when hungry, stop when full"
@@berryl522 The answer is not to 'learn' how to eat intuitively. It is a case of rewiring the thinking behind disordered eating. That is a crucial distinction. Many food psychologists and dieticians have said this over and over. You do not need to 'learn' how to eat intuitively (that is exactly the point of it being 'intuitive'), and if you currently struggle with disordered eating you need to combat the thoughts and actions behind that before you can return to a place of intuitive eating.
Yes! Please! I tried "intuitive eating", and I feel like I am pretty in tune with my body, but no matter what I was eating I didn't feel "full" so I ended up overeating a ton! And then I would go a few days without feeling hungry at all. So I would have 3 days of eating like 3500+ calories a day, followed by 2 or 3 days of eating less than 1000 calories. I felt like garbage and steadily gained weight. I feel like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle!
I usually don’t comment on videos I disagree with but some of the comments in the video and in the comments can be damaging for some. As a former obese person who had a binge eating disorder (from chronic stress and anxiety disorders) not everyone can intuitively eat. Even when I was full I would keep eating and on days I didnt have as bad anxiety I was hungry and would eat very little. Counting calories and just knowing more about nutrition has helped me lose 60 lbs and keep it off. Having food prepared reminds me to eat so I don’t under eat. Many former binge eaters I know also have had similar problems. Some anorexics have also said the same and they don’t get hungry and have plans set up. Certain medications can make you lose appetite or increase it as well. Comments like that are JUST as hurtful and toxic as other “diet culture” phrases. It implies that we aren’t trying hard enough or doing something wrong by calorie counting or having meal plans. Losing weight isn’t wrong if it is what will make a person healthy because no at my heaviest it wasn’t “how my body was supposed to be”
TVZ5Qfighting YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded. I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. I saw 3 health professionals and each of them saw me as an overweight girl who snacked too much. I always felt unheard and incapable after trying to seek help for my binge eating. One lady told me it was due to my anxiety, which i have never been diagnosed with not did she diagnose me with it. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
Yep the same thing happened to me I went from 160-235 maybe more I stopped weighing myself in a year. It’s had because people who haven’t gone through what we been through don’t know anything about binge eaters. Yeah and I thought it was weird that she choose this vid which was old and made judgements on a person without knowing Gabby’s past which she could have watched her journey video to get some background
"Listen to your body" that's how I ended up 255lbs, how my brother ended up 300lbs. My body said we're hungry, eat more. But when I did things like Gabby where you paid attention to what exactly you are eating, not combining one not so good food within others. She wasn't saying toast and bacon causes something wrong in your body but when you eat bacon don't add empty carbs on top like bread. Add a better carb instead. Balance your days food if you have something from the not so good for you list. Also when I started to lose weight finally it was by upping good fats Iike she did and eating like a pig. I ate so much food but it was good food, nutritional food instead of pizza and junk food. Listening to my overweight body did no good for me until I put the right tools and food in it. Then I was able to see progress. Also I think Ms Nutrition was never severely overweight. When I first started losing weight I had to cut everything "bad" and have nothing "bad" ie junk food, candy, ice cream, empty carb items, bread etc in the house because I knew my fat ass body would say eat it. But after I lost 40 pounds I could be around those things a little bit more without undoing all of my hard work. But I found it was easier to go out for a trip to get a treat on occasion rather than have it in stock at the house. I was more successful that way. Also JUNK food is literally a term, you need to cut out all of the highly processed JUNK that has no Nutritional value. Nothing wrong with that.
I can’t believe I’m going to say this... but for the first time in my life, I actually think Gabbi is right.... I’m a little confused by how you could say that being aware of your caloric intake is unnecessary. I think intuitive eating can be good... but if you have an individual who is morbidly obese, their “happy weight” that their body “wants” to be at may be leading them to an early and unnecessary death. And to say that you should feed your body what it wants- what if it wants an entire sheet cake? I get dispelling the myths around diet culture, because so many of them are toxic. But going too far the other way gives free license to ppl with zero self control to continue to eat themselves to death. This is something that Alan Roberts has railed against continuously. Anyway. In general I love your channel, but I gotta say... as a dietician talking to a society where the vast majority are overweight and obese, I found several of your comments problematic. Perhaps a video in the near future about how you view intuitive eating is in order. I know I wouldn’t be the only one interested in seeing that.
Rebecca Gypseysol this yes, thank you 🙌🏾 I think due to Abby’s own personal struggles, she’s totally against tracking calories and “watching what you eat”. But she shouldn’t project that onto her viewers
Rebecca Gypseysol YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded. I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. I saw 3 health professionals and each of them saw me as an overweight girl who snacked too much. I always felt unheard and incapable after trying to seek help for my binge eating. One lady told me it was due to my anxiety, which i have never been diagnosed with not did she diagnose me with it. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
I agree. Most people trying to lose weight have no idea how to "eat intuitively". We are struggling here. If I ate what I felt like my body was telling me to eat I'd still be morbidly obese. 😂
There's nothing wrong with being fat. There's evidence that weight cycling is more dangerous than being fat. There's theories that it's not being fat that is dangerous, but societal and medical discrimination against fat people. Stop.
@@Dadsneeze I would love to know where you get that information...but okay. Obesity is only becoming more and more of a problem (read:killer), and we'll only see an increase of serious health issues as people age.
I’ve seen personal watermelons for as long as I can remember, I’m in Texas. They’re just smaller watermelons so it’s easier for one person to eat the whole thing
I think satiated (no longer hungry) and "full" are VASTLY different things. its hard to stop yourself at satiated and we often go past "full" to "stuffed"
It’s a process that you’re constantly working towards. The main point of intuitive eating is to be in touch with your body. Eating a tons doesn’t always feel so good. And an intuitive eater knows that but can deliberately make the decision to do it anyway but will get over it, move on, and not feel guilty.
I find it kind of laughable what she thinks is so problematic in Gabbie's video; she seems to lack a firm grasp on the reality that people face who grew up having an unhealthy relationship with food on the other end of the spectrum, i.e. overeating. Apps for tracking can be beneficial, not having unhealthy snacks in the house can be beneficial, planning your day around your meals can be beneficial; not everyone just KNOWS how to eat intuitively, it's not that easy for people who struggle with obsessive eating but you CAN teach yourself to overcome those negative thought processes. Why she thinks Gabbie doesn't have some balance in her life or why she thinks she hasn't made strides in overcoming her disordered eating is very confusing to me. Also, not all food is healthy, and the thought behind "all food is food lets not say this is trash" is an incredibly damaging concept to be spreading.
I think, at least this has been my experience coming from generations of chronically overweight people with terrrrrrible relationships with food, our bodies, etc. the idea of intuitive eating being so flippant kinda pisses me off. I've been re-working how I think about food, how I think about what I eat etc. and training myself to eat more intuitively but it is *so*hard*. It's like having to constantly be on top of what my emotions want vs what my body wants and that is such a distinction that I and so many others really struggle with. It takes a lot of practice and effort and I wish it was treated with more awareness of that. I do totally agree with her though on the "all food is food" thing, maybe it's just me, but demonizing any kind of food (even legitimately does-no-good-for-you kinds) isn't as productive as it wants to be.
Haley Spence Yeah totally agree on the intuitive eating thing, speaking about it in such a nonchalant way as if everyone should be able to just do it, it’s like telling a meth addict, hey man just stop 🤷🏽♀️ lol but yeah I don’t think anyone needs to demonize certain foods but it’s important for people to know which foods are less healthy than others, the approach that everything is good for your body just because it’s food I think can cause a lot of serious confusion for those who are looking at building a healthy relationship with food who have always had the “well all food is good food” approach to eating and are now suffering because of it. But I see where she’s coming from if her experience is lack of food, then that approach would be beneficial to her specifically because she would need to stop demonizing food in her mind in order to start being okay with eating more calories.
@@baquerka I'd call it more like telling a meth addict to "just do enough to be normal" like...how do you even know what normal is if you do meth? How do you even know what normal is when your perspective has been warped for x,y,z reasons? But also, it hadn't occurred to me that the "all food is good food" mentality existed or was something that was preached xD I was raised with a very hard line between good food and bad food and a very limited number of dishes/meals that my family was willing to eat--and all the things deemed healthy/good tasted like bitter garbage to me, and still kind of do. (Looking at you *salad*, and "salad dressing".)
Kara B. I’d have to disagree. I have binge eating disorder, bulimia, and a food obsession and counting calories is incredibly bad for me. It fuels my food obsession. I think it depends on the person and if it works for Gabby, then that’s okay, but I wouldn’t say the nutritionist’s advice is bad. The intention is to avoid obsessive and disordered eating. I think for people with BED and obsessive eating can use apps, but need the self control and guidance to know when it’s too much.
coming from somebody who binge ate her whole life and has now lost over 20 kilos since february, I personally disagree with the idea that counting calories is somehow demonized or not allowed. I tried eating intuitively when I started trying to change my life for the better, but if you have not any time in your life experienced satiation because you always ate until your stomach hurt, it just doesn't work. I tried to figure out what the feeling of satiation was and for a long time, regardless of how little or much I ate I just didn't get a feeling of satiation, even if I waited hours after eating. I was either still hungry or my stomach hurt because I ate too much. I honestly think for me I just didn't have satiation at all because my brain didnt know how to register it because I have been obese my entire life. In february I started eating half of what I would eat when I would binge and I started seeing weight drop, but that became unhealthy as well because I started to then think around April that I needed to eat half of what I ate when I started eating half of what I ate, meaning I was essentially eating only a quarter of what I used to. I then had 6 weeks where my body remained the same despite eating incredibly small portions of food. I then decided to use my fit bit to log my food for about a week. And keep in mind, I have done weight watchers before, I have tried different diets, and I have been on binging sprees that would make anybody ashamed enough to hide under a blanket for the rest of their lives. But counting those calories showed me that I was eating too little, and when I started reaching my calorie goal daily, I had a feeling that I knew about how much I should be eating and I tried going blind at it again, I stopped counting calories. And despite my disordered mind, I didn't have a hard time stopping that. Maybe it's because I am truly over being obese, maybe it's because I started focusing on my hobbies so I was distracted and didn't have time to worry, but for the first time in my life the transition was really truly easy. But I started eating inutitively, using the visual cues of the amounts of food that I learned when I was counting calories, and I finally triumphed in finding the feeling of satiation. I no longer eat until my stomach hurts, and I no longer only eat enough that I feel hungry all day. Between February and April I had lost 5 kilos, now I've lost 15 kilos more and I feel incredible. So while I agree that intuitive eating is eventually what needs to be learned, I truly do not believe that counting calories in order to establish a base line for people who have not grown up being educated about nutrition is a bad thing. To each their own, but for the first time in my life I am not afraid to order food with my coworkers and I have never felt happier on a daily basis.
I need a video on how to recognize what your body is asking for. (Intuitive eating cues/tips) because I'm literally going to delete my calorie counting app.
It's important that you understand that Abbey has a history of disordered eating (orthorexia) and this informs her relationship with food, which is why people like her demonise calorie counting. As someone who has struggled with being overweight, I personally found calorie counting extremely useful in losing weight and maintaining a healthy weight, as well as developing a healthier diet and relationship with food. Not saying you shouldn't stop calorie counting and give intuitive eating a go, but also be weary of people who say that what works for them will work for everyone, which is ultimately what Abbey is doing with her promotion of intuitive eating.
Calorie counting was incredibly helpful to me. I thought I was being healthy and not overeating but I wasn’t at a healthy weight. I started calorie counting and realised how many calories I was overeating per day and where those calories and nutrients (or lack thereof) were coming from. I tracked until I lost about 8kg and was feeling fantastic. Energy returned, I was working out, my skin cleared up and I got compliments all the time. THEN I backed off and started “intuitive eating” based on my new knowledge and experience from tracking. For about 6 years I did this to great success, randomly tracking calories to make sure I wasn’t going overboard and knowing that I was within healthy ranges. It was only when I started a new relationship and stopped occasionally tracking, trying to live by “intuitive eating”, that everything fell apart. Without noticing, I started craving food that was nutritionally defunct and incorporating those high calorie, low nutrient foods as staples in my diet. I didn’t notice how out of control I was because I was influenced by people around me. I gained 15kg, lost energy, and felt terrible. I’m now back to tracking and reforming healthy habits - and I’ve lost another 10kg and feel wonderful again. My muscle content increased, my fat dropped and I started weight training. My partner is doing it alongside me and has also lost about 10kg, with serious muscle gain! Calorie counting can be fantastic!!! I love it. It doesn’t run my life. Disordered eating can present in so many ways and of course people can abuse calorie counting like any other method of trying to improve health. That doesn’t make it restrictive, it doesn’t make it unhealthy. I think it’s hugely damaging to tell people who have no concept of how to eat intuitively to never count calories or macros - they need a base understanding and tracking is perfect for that. Even for people who understand it, blindly eating and not keeping mindful about what you’re ingesting can quickly harm your health.
Here’s another thing: when I was loosely tracking and loved my body and health, I stopped wanting things like chocolate, pizza, cookies and could have them around without overeating them. I would open the pantry and think “eh, don’t feel like that stuff” and would choose something that would actually fill me up, or satisfy cravings while providing fibre or protein or healthy fats. Or if I reeeeeally wanted pizza, I’d be satisfied with two slices and a grilled chicken salad (a concept that was outrageous while I was eating whatever I wanted - and what I wanted was always more, of everything). But to start with, I had to get that stuff out of the house and avoid it for about a week or two, just so that I wasn’t craving the taste of it or simply in the habit of having it. Not having chips or chocolate in the house meant I would have natural yoghurt with frozen raspberries instead, or a boiled egg. After three days I was craving those foods, and it was easy to look at chocolate and think “nah, I want raspberries.” I also recognised portions. I knew what an appropriate amount of steak looked like, vs a restaurant serving that was 4x that size. I knew that the amount of muesli my body might need or want was a sprinkle, not a cereal bowl full. If I went out with friends, I ordered entree sizes because I would feel sick if I ate a full meal - I was listening to my body. Intuitive eating works if you already have great habits, a healthy relationship with food and are maintaining your weight. It doesn’t work for fat loss.
As for the intuitive eating recommendation, its extremely hard to listen to my hunger cues. I've been in anorexia recovery for 8 months and I'm still learning my hunger cues. Because of the damage I did to my body, I dont experience my cues from a grumbling stomach. I have to either have someone else (my mom or my best friend) track for me; or I have to listen to my mood. I get moody and or cry/yell if I'm hungry. I'm waiting for my cues to come back, but until they do, I have to rely on someone else counting for me.
Libby Poole i recommend going to a dietician specialized in eating disorders to get a meal plan if you’re still struggling. after eating three meals and three snacks every day my hunger cues have fully come back, the only issue is extreme hunger lmao
yes!! have someone else track for you! my doctors let me track my own diet during eating disorder recovery and it took twice as long to mentally recover from everything. I hope you have a beautiful life. you are not the exception to recovery.
If I didn't use these apps my intuitive body would "guide me" to eat cake for dinner...and i've managed to lose over 30lbs with myfitnesspal so far so 🤷♀️
I really like myfitnesspal when I was using it, but I was using it to make sure I ate enough and slowly started slipping back into disordered eating. It’s definitely a good tool, IF you can use it without falling into unhealthy restrictions. Congrats on your dedication to being healthy, by the way.
@@thepovdweller yeah...my doctor just said I should only eat 1500 calories a day maximum regardless of hunger cues though, so I guess it’s time to try it again and hope I don’t slip. She probably won’t listen to a thing I say unless I try to do it her way
Congrats on having a healthy relationship with food and being able to intuitively eat, but I think you’re kind of being unrealistic thinking that everyone can be like you. I plan my meals out making sure I’m hitting my calorie maintenance and my macros (lost my weight a while ago so I don’t need to be in any sort of deficit) and this is what works for me. If I “intuitively ate” I’d be downing junk food for all of my meals, I can’t tell when I’m full, I can’t control cravings very well, and if there’s temptation, I won’t be able to resist it. That’s why my plan which is similar to gabbies (minus perhaps the bacon because ew) is better for me than your “intuitive eating”
You should watch Abbey's earlier videos because she used to have an eating disorder and she explains she has only been in this place in the last couple of years, and she's been open about the challenges involved.
As a new mom, I’ve been looking for positive sources of fact based info for diet and nutrition and was happy to find your channel because your videos seemed, for the most part, very logical, with a light way of discussing these topics and breaking them down. I really relate to Gabby. She’s been trying to find ways to tackle her weight loss in a healthy way, has sought the necessary help and is excited to have found methods that work for her. Obviously some of your commentary here is very sound - (E.g. bacon). I am always happy to hear about your thoughts on specific foods / combinations / schedules for eating and working out. But the rest of this video really turned me off. You could hardly resist expelling a hearty dose of judgment, eye rolling and condescension. At times you even laugh out loud in disgust/ exasperation at Gabby, and over rather small comments from Gabby. Gabby herself admitted she’s not a nutritionist. You knowing more than her about this topic doesn’t win you a gold star and, frankly, no one is going to pat you on the back for being so perfect that you’re able to ignore having cookies and ice cream in your house and not eat them. I think you’ll find that the vast majority of your viewers are more like Gabby, or have a history of ED or unhealthy eating (otherwise... why would we need to seek out dietitians on UA-cam?). You would be wise to take your arrogance down a notch and learn a little more about these issues if you aren’t equipped to discuss them.
Hm… interesting, I actually didn’t take the things Abby was saying or the way she was reacting that way at all. Maybe there’s another explanation for Abby’s behavior?
watching this in 2020 lol, Gabbie actually mentioned she was dealing with disordered eating habits at the time of this video, despite it appearing “healthy” - so you were definitely correct, she opened up about it bordering on orthorexia
Re: "People who have a healthy relationship with food don't need to purge their home of sugar." Give the girl a break. She is a former food addict who is in the process of healing. Demanding that she stock her home with junk food is sort of like telling a recovering alcoholic that they should make sure they have alcohol in their home, because "people who have a healthy relationship with alcohol don't need to purge their home of it".
Abbey, I can definitely understand your perspective on intuitive eating vs calorie counting and I think you are incredibly intelligent and well educated, but I think for certain people, eating intuitively might be more difficult than counting calories. There were times in my health journey where I had such a strong urge to binge eat sugary processed foods that I really think I needed to track what i was eating to stop myself from doing it. I was not restrictive with my calorie intake, I would only decrease a couple hundered calories from my TDEE. I know intuitive eating is the ideal way humans should live, but some people just arent to the point where they can hear what their body truly wants and all they can hear is what they are craving for instant gratification. I eat much more intuitively now that I'm healthier, but I feel like tracking helped me to eat more nutrient dense foods! I think your perspective on intuitive eating may be helpful to people recovering from a restrictive eating disorder, but intuitive eating might not be possible for people who have a strong urge to use junk food as a drug to comfort them.
I really disagree with the thing about not counting calories because we need to eat intuitively. For some people counting calories can actually be very helpful and not everyone is able to "eat intuitively".
YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded. I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
I’m short and at 13 was gaining weight rapidly but when I started counting my calories I dropped (like 2 days ago) to 51kg and I feel so much better. It works very well for some and it’s obsessive for others.
My eating disorder started from an anxiety disorder and I had no control over natural hunger cues or how to eat normal meals but a macro counter has really helped me because it decreased the anxiety around calories and food. I haven’t abused it either. I use it when I know I’m going to be around a lot of food I’m unfamiliar with. When I know I’ve eaten over 1000 calories in one meal it’s a cue to me to tune into my body and ask myself “am I still hungry?” “How am I feeling about this?” “Am I at risk of bingeing?”. I’m also in school for dietetics so nutrition is a passion. I think calorie counters can be a useful tool.
I feel like it's hypocritical of you to say there's no "fix-all" when it comes to someones diet, that we all need something different, then turn around an preach intuitive dieting as if it so easily works for everyone
It doesnt “easily” works on everyone... it’s work and effort and it’s painful but so worth it! You just have to get a professional to help you. I have experience in this subject, been dieting since I was 6 and now that I’m 26 finally stopped and I’m eating more intuitively. I follow Jessie Jean on IG and her podcasts are amazing too! You can do it! But it’s WORK! It doesnt happen overnight and it’s painful, your body and brain can get used to eating intuitively but you have to want it and do each step
A calorie app does NOT tell you what to eat. A calorie counter helped me realize what calories were in what foods. You can track food/calories and listen to your body. If I feel hungry I eat more food if I'm not I eat less food. I use a calorie counter and eat way more healthy then I ever have. I love my diet I love how I eat now. I feel so much better. Sorry but a calorie app user for 3years and still very very happy and sustained.
I really hate how much you put down tracking of foods. As someone with an eating disorder tracking was key in helping me recover and gain some control over my disorder. Not all of us can intuitively eat, for some of us the body's eating clock is broken and our relationship with food is broken. It's not 'buying into diet culture' to track the macros and calories you intake in order to gain a better understanding of what your body prefers eating while making sure you are not grossly over or under eating. Tracking isn't forever but its a helpful tool. I'm a bit disappointed with this video.
@Maj Hill Yeah - I think going based on feeling would be a lovely way to eat and it's what we should all strive for but I know based on my disorder some sort of structure and therefore 'rules' are necessary for me to not slip back into truely dangerous eating habits and thinking.
Maj Hill yes thank you! Your explanation is much better than mine but that’s exactly how I feel! Having a sense of understand (through macros) and responsibility (through tracking) over my eating habits was a real game changer for me personally 🤗
Could you please do a video about weight loss surgery and good things to eat, I’ve been struggling with deficiencies since my gastric sleeve and I’d like to hear your input 🙂
What's your experience with the sleeve? I'm considering it because i have pcos, hypothyroidism, and insulin resistance. Weight lose is sooooo slow for me and my body is starting to hurt from the weight. I was walking for two days on vacation(i normally work out so im used to this but at a gym) and it was just striding and somehow injured my Achilles tendon. Such BS. 😑
Alexiss C the best decision I’ve ever made, it’s not been plain sailing but I’m always glad I had it done, I’m a lot happier and I like the way that it’s for life as I know I’ll always have issues with food.
Except the healthy carbs jargon all the time. Sometimes carbs don't sit well for a lot of people, like the fatty foods don't sit well for her before a workout. But then again, they haven't really learned anything new in decades, in nutrition foods these days. Just look at who sponsors dietitian medicine and the like.
I can't really intuitively eat when trying to lose weight. It does not work for me. I usually undereat, then overcorrect and overeat and just stay the same weight. I have had great success tracking my calories, I don't obsess over it but it helps me better gauge where I am. I don't believe that just anyone can intuitively eat, especially if they have a history of binge eating or on the other side of the spectrum not eating enough.
As a child I grew up eating pasta and ice cream on a daily basis. And overeating constantly. That was how my family ate, and I had no reference to what was “normal,” or “healthy,” til I was already 12 years old. My mom and dad told us vegetables were good, and that “too much,” sugar was bad. That was my nutrition education until I joined public school. And then public school said that carbs from things like bread, potatoes, and pasta were what we were supposed to eat the most of. I didn’t lose weight until my junior year of high school after my parent’s divorce and the death of my grandmother when I stopped eating. 700 cals a day, then 400, then 300, and a few days sprinkled in where I only drank water. I fainted a few times and everyone told me I looked amazing and I was such a success story. They put me in the school paper. I went to college and started eating again, gained a bunch of weight back, yo yo’d for the next 5 years and finally decided that I was never going to count another calorie in my life. I went to therapy, I had a wonderful mentor who taught me a lot about nutrition and made it a point to show me and the rest of my fitness class that the same body looks drastically different depending on what you do with it and that no matter what it looked like it was OKAY. I look at serving sizes sometimes, and I still shy away from high carb counts on some packaged foods, and particularly when I do feel hunger ques I can get really emotional and spiral for a few minutes before I realize what’s happening- but I’m ok. It’s gotten so much better since I started caring for myself. I cook great meals for myself and my loved ones, some days I workout- I don’t love my body. But I appreciate it. Point being: this has been a 25 year journey for me. It doesn’t get fixed for most of us, and doing it in a year or two is usually not sustainable. You have roughly 80 years to figure it out and some people literally never do. If you do, It’s not the most important thing you’ll do. If you don’t, it will never be a priority to anyone, ever, to know how much you weighed. I promise.
Hey Abbey, I’m wondering about the legitimacy of “ideal weights”. You know, all these charts and graphs that you plug in your age, height and gender into to find your “ideal” weight. I learnt about it in grade 7 and I’ve been striving toward it (even subconsciously) ever since. However, since I started watching you and learning about intuitive eating and anti- diet culture living, I really have began to question its legitimacy and healthiness. I understand they’re not the end all and be all but do they have any validity? Thank you for busting all the diet culture myths you do and guiding viewers toward a healthy body and mind. I appreciate it!
I was going to ask for a video about this as well. I have always been on the high end of the BMI but I wonder if that's how my body wants it to be, as in, I don't need to restrict food to be healthy. Is there any science that suggests that some folks just have bigger/smaller bodies than average?
Not a dietician but I can say BMI and your weight is definitely not the end all and be all to being a "healthy individual". This is when I would really rely on your GP to look over your annual (or hopefully more often than that) blood tests to see if all your cholesterol, vitamin, hormonal, etc levels are in check for a person with your medical history. I personally don't see much accuracy to BMI charts because some people have had a higher BMI just due to their height and weight but have perfectly fine bloodwork, no history of chronic disease or little risk for future chronic illnesses! However, if this really concerns you (I e. You or your family has some metabolic conditions to note) then I would definitely consult a nutritionist or GP one on one to hollistically assess your physical health.
@@jessicabecker9403 yes this would be great! I too have always had a high-ish bmi (the high end of ideal/borderline overweight) in my adult life and I lose weight kind of easily if I don't eat my usual amount but my weight hasn't given me any physical health issues.
Jessica Becker-Sattler I believe there is science for this. Look up set point theory, it basically states that your body wants to be at a certain weight, and at this weight is where it functions the best. So for some people it’s a BMI 18.5 and others it’s a BMI 28, but don’t go on BMI. It depends on your body. Basically if you need to restrict heavily to maintain a weight, your body isn’t happy there even if your BMI is 20. So some people have a set point that is higher than others, it’s in your genes. But if you don’t have to restrict at your weight, then I’d say you are at your set point (which is a range of 5-10 lbs) and you’re listening to your body. Honestly you’re doing great and listening to what your body wants, so keep it up. BMI is a load of crap, it isn’t really helpful at all. Good job on listening to what your body wants
That’s why there is a 40 pound range with in each height. So you and your doctor can decide your healthy weight. Unfortunately health isn’t emotionally based being obese isn’t healthy and comes with health concerns even being overweight raises the risk of some disease
But I was wondering about people who overeat. What about someone like me where it's very hard to tell when I have had enough. Why isn't calorie counting good then.
I’m wondering the same thing because I’m the same way. I’m all for intuitive eating, there’s just a lot of days where I feel like I over eat or under eat.
Abbey, in this video you mention (as you did in your wonderful personal orthorexia story) that it's unhealthy to restrict or count calories. A lot of the eating disorder stuff that you speak of is related to people eating too less. But what about binge eating disorder when you're trying to lose weight. Or really any kind of video about BED.
You talk about how calorie counting isn’t needed because our bodies will tell us if we are getting enough through intuition, but what if you’re not good at listening to your body? After my partner and I started going out, I found that we both gained weight (as a lot of people do when they enter a relationship). I have exercised more than I ever have in my entire life, and I eat healthier, but I still gained weight. When I started using calorie counting apps I found that it was down to my portion sizes. I was cooking healthy nutrient rich food, but lots of it. Counting calories helped me see what a healthy portion size looks like. I think if we have grown up with unhealthy eating habits like “eat what’s on your plate” etc, we never learn to listen to our bodies. I feel that calorie counting apps can be good for getting us on the right track in those instances. They help us figure out where we are going wrong. So I don’t think they are always unnecessary and unhealthy.
i think it’s incredibly backwards to assume that every body has a perfect sense of what foods to eat or not eat, when i ate intuitively i was chronically underweight, not because i was starving myself, i was eating A LOT, but as a teenage boy turns out i had to eat way more, and a calorie app helped me
I LOVE your content. I’m a trainer in Canada and am forwarding so many of your videos to clients who are confused. I am working through my preferred nutrition course now and hearing your videos is so helpful for practical knowledge to one day assist me in helping others. You are a role model for me, thank you for that. I look forward to future videos. Knowledge is power ❤️
Preach! 🙌 I loved how much you addressed diet culture! I'm in recovery and it's pervasive everywhere in my life. It's nice when someone else calls it out, too!
I was kinda disappointed that you left out the parts of her video where she says specifically that she doesn’t cut out any of the food groups, and also the part where she breaks down her macros and talks about how she listens to her body and adjusts her macros to adjust to how her body feels after eating certain things. She also talked about sustainability by being strict for a year then being able to let up because your body bounces back quicker but you cut that out too.
Hey, this seems pretty biased since you're coming from the undereating side of the spectrum, but what may work for undereating does not work for overeating. It's a different kind of obsession, and it is largely psychiatric and I do not believe a dietician is certified to make some of the suggestions you have. It sounds like you take some of Gabbie's methods very personally, and to speculate about her still have disordered thoughts to the degree that you do seems inappropriate. You are not her doctor, and there is a reason doctor's are not supposed to diagnose people without seeing them in person. It also sounds like you are too into intuitive eating. It does not work for everyone, namely overweight people. You are turning food into some kind of moral thing and appear to be reading too much HAES propaganda, which has coopted language traditionally used to help people who undereat. And it appears you are making the same mistake. What is healthy language and lifestyles for those who have an undereating disorder cannot be blanketly applied to those with overeating disorders. I intuitively have eaten all of my life, and I ended up overweight because of it, slowly gaining weight since I was a child. If you realize that this is individual, you should know that one thing will not work for everyone. While counting calories may trigger someone with anorexia, it is an essential tool for those who do not know what a healthy portion is. I encourage you to try to break out of this box you have ordered your thoughts about this into, because while you may be a dietician, many professionals have contrary opinions to yours and it seems you have a real blindspot when it comes to issues you have not dealt with personally.
On the other hand, she’s also aware that people who need to lose weight end up spiraling into eating disorders (like ObesetoBeast went through) so she’s cautious of people developing triggering behaviors when they initially have good intentions
Psssst We get it you’re a gabbie Stan. She’s a RD and you’re not. Just cuz you don’t like it doesn’t make what Abbie said not valid. Clear your own blind spot. And under eating? She promotes eating 2k-3k calories a day dude
Will you talk about Stephanie Buttermore? She is a fitness person who recently went on a "all in" diet where she's eating AT LEAST 5000 calories a day for health reasons and I just can't wrap my head around how that could be beneficial.
I've been watching you're videos for a bit and you remind me SO much the registered dietician at my previous eating disorder treatment center. And she was AMAZING! Your videos and your perspectives on food are SO healthy (I mean healthy for the mind in this case 😉) and have been beneficial for me when I find myself reverting back to that good/bad food black and white thinking that led to everything in the first place. Anyways, my point is thank you! It's great to hear someone speak so rationally and healthily about food, diet, fitness, etc. 💖💖💖
Love your videos! As a recovering cyclical dieter I appreciate your common sense and balanced approach. Thanks for making science-based content in a diet culture world!
As someone diagnosed with hypothyroidism it's really important I track my meals with an app. Eating intuitively and eating the amounts "my body told me to" I would only eat around 600 calories a day and I damaged my metabolism so much from restrictive behavior, and became overweight. (Yes, this can happen. It's a real thing. Your ED actually does harm your metabolism, y'all) Now, I have to eat my meals exactly three hours apart, on a timer, and eat a snack, and log them to make sure I get at least 200 calories at a time. Forcing myself to eat enough (and calculating my cals) when I'm not hungry is the ONLY way I have lost weight, even with thyroid meds and everything.
I don’t understand this whole “food is food” thing. Like yes i understand food is food, but what I don’t understand is where chips, pizza, cakes (etc. of classic “unhealthy foods”) would be considered healthy or under the saying “food is food” category. How will eating that way make you healthy or lose weight or maintain a heathy weight/ balance.
A small thin-crust Italian style pizza with veggies, ham instead of pepperoni,... is much healthier than a large stuffed-crust Pizza Hut pizza (which feels deep-fried honestly) with pepperoni, extra cheese,.... Maybe pizza is never very healthy but I never worry about it too much because I prefer the healthier option anyway and it's really not too bad then.
Because it's not about these foods being healthy or them allowing you to lose weight ! It's about your relationship to food and being able to view it as what it is and not assign a moral value to it
Hello Abbey! I'm also a nutritionist and I really love your channel and your videos. The content you make is so great and so truthful!! Thanks a lot for this! Just wanted to say one thing: in terms of hydration after a workout I don't think water is the most ideal drink since like a drink with less than 5% of CH and a bit of salt would open the sodium and glucose channels and osmosis would happen faster. Thus you get hydrated much faster. Just want to get your honest opinion about this! Thanks a lot and keep up with the amazing work.
Gabbie's way of talking about food and way of eating sounds exactly like mine when I ended up in binge eating. Rules about eating, waiting a certain amount of hours between the meals, planning the day around food, etc etc. It feels sustainable in the beginning, you lose wait, you look good and feel good but then it doesn't work anymore. I hope she ends up at intuitive eating in the end. It's a long process but worth it. No rules, no restrictions, no planning the day around food. Soo freeing 💜❤
I lost over 80lbs 7 years ago and kept it off, and I was doing it on purpose, I still track because I have to, I binge eat to the point of making myself sick (I’ve downed a family size bag of mini eggs in less than an hour), so if I ate intuitively I’d be incredibly overweight. Eating intuitively doesn’t work for everyone, tracking calories and macros is so simple and it does work and doesn’t take very much time at all.
31:23 any habit change requires you to be strict with yourself in the beginning to build the habit. Doing it consistently and not intentionally taking a day off until you’ve firmly established the habit. Things like learning an instrument, or stretching, sewing or whatever. Eating is the same way. If you’re giving up soda, you can’t have your “once in a blue moon soda” 3 days into that habit change. You have to go a while with no soda and then you can start having it occasionally. The number I hear thrown around is 21 days or so? “Being strict” about food temporarily is not inherently a diet, let alone a disorder. Giving up caffeine or sugar or something for 30 days is a perfectly normal, healthy way to make a long term change, provided that the change is small.
Exactly. I'm currently three days into a healthy eating plan. It's not restrictive calorie-wise, and it's well-balanced, but I still have to struggle hard against the urge to binge all day. People like her (recovered anorexics) do not understand this because they have never experienced it. All they've experienced is the opposite.
I think counting calories is SO helpful and I lost/kept off 80 lbs doing so. It makes you aware of what is in foods/appreciate foods like veggies that provide bulk at a low caloric cost and helped me be more accountable/aware of what i was putting into my mouth throughout the day. Without counting, its easy to lose track of what you've eaten. I would just graze all day thinking "I haven't really eaten that bad", when in reality i'd eaten hundreds of calories in excess. If I had started off trying to lose weight eating "intuitively" I'd still be giving into every craving and binging.
I think you are maybe pulling apart her video a bit too much and being a little hard on her and really focusing on specific words. She did say that it works for her and not to take her word a gospel. She seems happy and looks healthy. I do agree with you that the bacon is a lot every day. I know a lot of body builders and I see alot in her that I see In their diet. But she is way less extreme. If she went more extreme with weighing food and counting macros then definitely I would say she could have orthorexia.
Good video but “intuitive eating” and “listening to your body” can easily be unhealthy for many. Hormones and conditioning (mental patterns & habits) will dictate how someone intuitively eats. Studies have shown that individuals become leptin resistant if they’re overfed consistently. Then there’s cortisol release which can be linked to food habit loops when emotional eating is part of someone’s life, or even when their parents conditioned them to eat for comfort in times of stress. I’d argue that our bodies are not so smart they tell us when to eat and when to stop, and don’t make small adjustments naturally, and we all do not have a healthy set point our bodies are telling us to equalize too. Many studies show that the hormones and compounds that control those signals can signal individuals to actually do the opposite. If you have research that shows the successful intuitive eating trials please cite it when you talk about intuitive eating.
“Your body will guide you to eat the right amount of food” Is this channel just for people with normal habits, or disordered under eating? Because if so: say so.
Hi there, I just wanted to add some personal experience and also to say that Abbey has struggled with an eating disorder in the past. For me, I have had trouble listening to my body after bingeing in my early teen years to on and off yo-yo dieting for almost ten years where I would binge and then "get back on track" and end it with periods of binge eating. I hear your concerns but just want to say that even saying something like "the right amount" of food is individual and that is what intuitive eating is meant to try towards. Outisde sources of information (diet plans, even calorie counters) may not be what your body ACTUALLY needs. When I first started to intuitively eat, I gained a lot of weight and always kept in the back of my mind that my body would eventually get to a point where it would lose all of the weight. But I was really thinking about it wrong. When I kept that goal in my head, I couldn't focus on listening to my body because I was still moralizing food and demonizing my body for gaining weight. But letting go of that idea, slow as it has been, has given me the insight that I feel better in general (no more not having enough energy to get out of bed, no more feeling freezing all the time even when """overweight""""). And I still overeat! It is not a 1 week, or 1 month process. This is something that you have to try to practice forever without feeling like gaining weight is a sign that you are failing. For me, and I'm thinking other people too, my binging was either emotional or my body telling me I had been under eating for years. Sometimes both. That's simply my experience and I hope it tells you a little more about intuitive eating and binging. Intuitive eating is based in a slow, long, process where you aim to try to listen your body more while letting go of the fear that your body might gain fat.
i agree with you 100%... i eat virtually the same stuff gabbie eats, with the exception of a few things. My body DOES NOT guide me in how much or how little to eat. I can eat and eat and eat and my body won’t tell me to stop. and on top of that, it’s all the wrong and unhealthy foods. i find it off putting that this woman thinks intuitive eating would work for everybody. she rubs me the wrong way for some reason
Yes please. Dr Fung is a Canadian Nephrologist and author of the Obesity Code and the Diabetes Code. He runs a clinic where they treat metabolic disorders with food and fasting. His methods are fascinating and show a lot of positive results. I also enjoy Dr Mark Hyman who also has lots of interesting ideas about food as medicine.
I’ve learned from watching your videos that I am extremely blessed to have grown up around people with healthy relationship to food and to have developed a healthy relationship myself. Intuitive eating is all I’ve ever known. Before watching your videos I really took for granted how complicated relationships with food can be and I will NEVER take that for granted again.
I thought I was over my disordered eating, but seeing your video made me realize I'm not. When I first saw Gabbie's video it really resonated with me. I agreed with all she said... Your video really opened my eyes.
She's training and working towards a body she really wants, and is working with a qualified trainer? No dig, just don't understand what the issue is with what Mykie is doing?
Undead Hummus I believe she has a warped idea of what is “healthy” and has unrealistic expectations when it comes to the body type she is trying to achieve. It wouldn’t be as big of a deal if she didn’t have such a large audience but I think it can be problematic when there are millions of young girls watching her thinking that training for a bikini competition is doable, sustainable, or healthy. Obviously she didn’t end up doing the competition, because it’s literally impossible to obtain the body needed for that within a few months when she has 0 experience and 0 years of training towards it, so maybe her ideas are different now and we’ll see when she makes a follow up video but it’s dangerous to promote that type of lifestyle. She seems to have the same kind of mindset that Gabbie has towards food and it can be triggering to many people.
I really appreciate how unique your videos are to the diet culture we are trapped in. Intuitive eating is the best "diet" a person could be on truly, even if I think sometimes you may oversimplify how easy that can be at least coming from someone who used to overeat a lot. Related to intuitive eating, you should react to Stephanie Buttermore's All In video!
Unfortunately not everyone can do that many medications block hunger or increase it, and others like myself (binge eating/ former obese) just cannot tell. I have heard anoretic people have said that same which is why they can’t gain. It’s not one size fits all
Telling people not to use a calorie tracking app when they're trying to lose weight? Make it make sense. Some people aren't able to "read" their body intuitively, and counting helps with that. Intuitive eating may have been helpful in caveman times when processed foods weren't a thing (like Paleo diet) Don't tell people not to count calories, especially if it works for them. And "junk" food definitely isn't just a label, as you mentioned, and calories aren't created equally. Rant over, thanks for coming to my TED talk
There were a couple points that I disagreed with, but the one that stuck with me the most was the idea of “intuitive eating” in relation to “WE DONT NEED APPS TO TELL US HOW TO EAT”. Because I dealt with an eating disorder, I could not “intuitively eat”. Now I worked on this for years with a therapist and I did have to plan my days around meals so that I would eat because I was not eating enough. It was part of my healing process. I agree with another commenter on relating purging certain foods to purging alcohol to an alcoholic. In some cases it can be necessary at the beginning of the healing process but can be reintroduced at a later point in time. Hope that makes sense.... Overall I don’t think this video was that sensitive to those who may have unhealthy relationships with foods or disorders....
Any watermelon can be a personal watermelon if you just believe in yourself. 👍🏻
Kirsten S. aw love that
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Oh my god I love this quote ima start applying that concept to everything else😂
Amen
I'd have diarrhea if I ate this much watermelon at once haha
Counting calories CAN be helpful though... I take meds for ADHD so my body can’t always tell me when it’s hungry. Counting made me realize I wasn’t eating nearly enough and that helped explain why I had been so tired
Same. I have anorexic tendencies and counting at this point helps me know I ate enough even if I hate the number. Because I cope with restriction it helps me knowing I ate enough to be hormonally balanced and enough to get me enough calories to work out heavy. Idkif that makes sense lmao 😂
Part of my disability means I don’t know when I’m hungry a lot of the time and, before I put any structure in place, could easily forget to eat anything for over a week because I didn’t know I was hungry! Sometimes people can’t reply on eating intuitively or listening to our bodies and DO need an app or something!
Same, my meds for adhd completely turn off my appetite so if I don't count calories I will go a whole day on one meal and not even feel it. Because you don't have that physical reminder of being hungry you don't even think about it. I was literally accused of being anorexic because I lost a ton of weight before they adjusted my minds. I had no way to explain it to people when they asked how I lost weight because it wasn't me intentionally starving myself. It was me not eating. Which me not eating to most people automatically="I'm starving myself". Because when you're not hungry, you don't think about food.
Yea,same! I have tried to lose weight many times relying on "intuitive eating" and it has never worked out for me. I just eat too much if i do that. If im counting calories i know what i eat, when and I am never hungry. I track my three meals and my snacks and i eat, i never starve. So for each person is different...
cloudanimal facts same here
Okay. I'm 26 minutes into this video and there is one thing that really stands out about Abbey's perspective here: she doesn't seem to understand the concept of food addiction.
Food addiction is similar to alcoholism. You would not tell an alcoholic that throwing out all of their alcohol is "too extreme" because "someone who has a healthy relationship with alcohol wouldn't need to do that." An alcoholic DOESN'T have a healthy relationship with alcohol. That's the point.
Food addicts like myself don't have a healthy relationship with food. We NEED to purge some of these foods from our homes, our patterns, etc., because the temptation to fall back into old habits is too strong.
I'm glad that Abbey has a good relationship with food. I am glad that she is able to listen to her body and know what she needs/wants. I am glad intuitive eating works for her. My intuition, however, was brutally murdered by 28 years of food addiction. Instead of hearing that I need to listen to my body, I need to hear _how_ to do that.
I apologize if this comes off as ranting, but I hope my perspective helps explain why "intuitive eating" isn't possible for a lot of people at this specific stage in their lives.
Intuitive eating is possible to you, but you need to see a mental health professional to get into the reason why you feel the need to binge. Alcoholics don't just binge drink because they think its fun, they do it to cope with their lives. Also, you don't need alcohol to live. No licensed doctor or dietitian would tell you to stop eating food.
I have an eating disorder which consists of restricting(and I mean like 400-600 max calories) or fasting and sometimes binging. I know what binging is like and if I felt like binging I would eat a ton of food until I felt like I couldn't move. The point of intuitive eating is to eat when you're hungry(and not just peckish, but hungry) and stop when full. I don't know what your story is, but there is always a reason why you're binging; whether its because you were restricting, or to deal with stress, or whatever else. But lots of people overcome binge eating due to dieting with intuitive eating, and after someone overcame whatever traumatic/stressful event led them to binge eating, intuitive eating would be a good way for them to continue and avoid relapse.
Kenna is correct. And people who say food addiction is as easy as listen to when your body says you are hungry has never had it. My body says eat a whole pizza in one sitting, it down say be intuitive and eat a salad and chicken. Food addiction doesn't always have a deep emotional trigger sometimes it's caused by poor diet growing up which then continues because your body craves what it eats so it tells you to eat bad foods. Food addicts aren't typically addicted to salads and grilled chicken. Usually it's sweets and treats, fats and carbs that then prompt your body to crave more and need more because it doesn't satiate you.
Then you need to read the Intuitive Eating book that all this intuitive eating talk originated from. Available on Amazon and at all good bookstores. It is NOT your intuition that's telling you to eat a family sized pizza and a bucket of ice cream every day. Just like it isn't your intuition that tells you to down a bottle of vodka before 10am every morning. ANY addiction is a psychological/ mental health issue and that's where you need to do the work. If an alcoholics problem was alcohol all you'd need to do is not have alcohol in the house and then look at that, you're cured! But we all know that's not how it works. Remove all the 'junk' from your house if you want, but it isn't going to cure your food addiction either because it isn't the food that's the problem.
I understad what you're saying juicy. And the whole removing the junk from the house helps mentally so much more than you would imagine. It's like a cycle thats one i personally cant seem to shake off. I'll have a taste and then i have to have the rest. No thought process just blank mind. 15 mins later i come to my senses and realise how much i ate. Rinse clean repeat. Not having the food i would normally binge on around helps with the healing process so much more and in turn helps being 'intuitive' with my food.
YES!!! 👏 At first, I was thinking of subscribing. But then I quickly realized that she doesn't understand disordered eating. Like good for you that you have a freezer of frozen cookies that you rarely think of them. you obviously don't have a food addiction.
I feel that you don't take into account that some people never learned to eat intuitively and that constant weight gain and diets made them unable to realize or even get the signals for hunger and satiety. If you don't realize that you're full, it does help to try to use some kind of counting system to not overindulge. I find it very dangerous to tell an obese person to just eat what their body tells them to.
Also this "I have loads of sweet snacks in the house and I don't think about them" - good for you. But people who have problems with overeating hardly ever think about anything else. So not having the foods in the house can be helpful.
I wish you would give advice for people who struggle with eating and not for people who have no problem with it.
I think a lot of her advice on those points are beyond her credentials. Eating disorders are a mental illness and she is not qualified to treat eating disorders alone. She doesn't seem to understand EDs and people who don't know how to eat properly.
Yeah, intuitively eating just does NOT work for everyone. If it did, we wouldn't have the massive obesity epidemic that we have now.
This is a really important point that I don't see specifically covered a lot from the intuitive eating crowd - 3 1/2 years ago I was 200 pounds overweight. I HAD to get a handle on what a reasonable amount of food (and therefore a reasonable amount of calories) per day was, and intuitive eating was not going to get me there at that point. Now, MAYBE if I had been working very closely with a registered dietitian during that process, but honestly, that's not accessible for most folks $ wise. Something like MyFitnessPal is. Over time I learned a lot about myself, my body, why I overate, etc, and NOW I do practice a more intuitive style of eating (although honestly I still track calories in my head and as someone who has had to lose 200 pounds, I don't really care what anyone else thinks about that). There's not one magic "thing" that will work for everyone, and as great as I think intuitive eating is, that includes intuitive eating (at least to me, but I'm not an RD etc).
I'm one of those people that can't keep unhealthy food in the house. Processed snacks and sweets are designed to be addictive after all. I did a huge eye roll when she said she is never tempted by the treats she has at home: this is not the case for so many people, and it's really good advice for people that struggle with overeating not to wear down their self control by constantly being around unhealthy things when they are trying to make lifestyle changes.
Same here. Any sweet treats in my house will be on my mind constantly until I eat all of them. Take biscuits for example, I tell myself I’m only going to eat three and then before you know it I’ve eaten the whole packet. It doesn’t work for healthy food either. I make healthy low calorie salads, vegan curries and lentil bolognese with zucchini noodles and still overeat because I don’t know when I’m full. My boyfriend can open a packet of sweets, eat a few and save the rest for later but I can’t do that. Once it’s open it’s gone.
hey! as a dietitian in the making, I believe temporarily keeping track of food can be incredibly helpful! I feel a lot of people lose the ability to eat “intuitively” and need help relearning how to eat. I don’t understand the new stigma around calorie counting when it can help people become more self aware. I understand that those with disordered eating would find it to be triggering but not everyone struggles with this in which case they should be seen by a psychiatrist not only an RD! Also, if everyone ate whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, then it would be challenging to help people reach their goals. For some it could be the goal to lose weight for surgery, lower their blood pressure, decrease their risk for diabetes, prepare their body for pregnancy, or just generally live a more healthy lifestyle. Not sure if I completely agree with this 🧐
Thank you!
Abbey Sharp has a very bad reputation. Dieticians don't usually serve a one-size-fits-all recipe like she does and you would be better off not taking her as an example.
You already sound like a better dietitian despite not being one yet. I love your mindset, I think you'll do incredible in the field.
I guess is hard for her because she has never experienced food addiction, i am a RD, and had anorexia, bulimia in my teenage years and a bitof my adulthood. studying nutrition and loving biochemistry made me realize we do need to eat. But then i started binge eating because although i stopped being anorexic and bulimic, the problem lied behind the reason i was using food as a coping mechanism, is so much more complex than just nutrition. i guess the first step is being aware of those patterns, and next working on solutions, and sometimes not keeping sugary foods on the pantry helps, and not watching model blogs or triggering content. Not all approaches are good for everyone and nutritionists and therapists have to work together to come ip with the best plan for each individual and it is definetly a process. I am now mostly healthy, and on a healthy relationship with food but it was definetly an ups and down process.
Alejandra Valenzuela abbey has actually come out to say that she did have orthorexia. I do think that she needs to be more sensitive to those who truly need help especially mentally.
I would love to see you review Natacha Océane’s channel! I love her videos and I want to know what you think
I love her channel as well! Currently doing her build program and having such a fun time. Curious from a professionals perspective 😁
I second that. She's deep in the diet culture.
@@crexx8296 why? I cant see it (please dont see this as an attack, I'm genuinely curious)
Yes please!
@@crexx8296 She WAS deep in the diet culture, she now eats intuitively and she hasn't done a "cheat day" for at least a year, because she no longer restricts.
Can you talk about how to live a healthy life without developing orthorexia
Lily Hoffman yes please omg
Lily Hoffman wish I could like this comment more than once
A recommendation: Becca Bristow (also a registered dietitian) has some videos on intuitive eating. I’d look into that. x
Intuitive eating is the key honestly. Yes it’s wonderful to have multiple servings of all food groups everyday. But if one day you feel like eating nothing but starchy carbs that’s what you want. Eat it. Never forcing yourself to eat what you don’t want to.
Random Bowl of Oatmeal sounds awesome, but I always try to have a cup of moringa water everyday because I feel like it makes my skin better - I never feel like drinking it though, it‘s absolutely disgusting! 😅😂 so maybe forcing yourself can be good in moderation... (Sorry for any mistakes, I‘m German) ☺️
I had some issues with some parts of this video. For me, someone with disordered eating habits, food tracker apps really helped me get myself on track because I don't really have an ability to eat intuitively. When I eat "intuitively" I don't eat enough calories to maintain a healthy weight because I don't enjoy eating and eat very unbalanced because my body just doesn't feel hunger the same way other people's do. I look past it far too easily. The only way for me to get to 105 lbs which I am at now was to regularly track my food to make sure I was eating more calories than I was burning every day I really enjoy your videos I just don't really understand/agree with certain aspects of it.
JojoDrawings same here, I don’t feel like calorie apps are evil, they truly are helpful
I have the same problem with hunger. I find when I’m not actively thinking about/tracking what I’m eating I eat about 500 calories less than what I should and I’m typically eating a bunch of carbs and nothing else. For me it really just works as a reminder to actually eat a balanced meal so after a while it becomes habit.
I was thinking the same thing! I’m curious her thoughts on this
Not a dietian or an expert at all, but from my personal experience i’ve seen that tracking calories/macros can trigger unhealthy eating habits. I’ve struggled with eating disoders for most of my life, but it’s when I started using a tracking app that I fell in the black hole of orthorexia (“clean” eating and over exercising).
I might be wrong, but I remember Abbey talking about her struggle with orthorexia, so that might be why she promotes “Intuitive eating” over tracking calories/macros.
Of course, if it works for you it’s great! It’s all about the mind set you approach this kind of apps :)
JojoDrawings same here Jojo
Would you tell an alcoholic to “drink intuitively”? You’re not an addiction specialist, many people are literally addicted to (certain) food, like sugar. However unlike drugs or alcohol it’s nearly impossible to cut out. Tracking is the next best thing because it teaches you what is actually in your food (sugar in tomato sauce, for example) so you can make informed choices if/when you get to a stage when you can eat “intuitively”.
Sugar cannot physically be addicting. That’s just a myth hon
TacoBell Is my name yes it is. Explain why people have sugar withdrawals symptoms??? You can watch 1000s of people cut out sugar and they all have withdrawal symptoms. Also Harvard University did a study that found sugar to be as addictive as cocaine. Sugar releases dopamine in the brain just like cocaine does. It affects some people more than others. I’ve experienced sugar addiction myself by the way.
You need food to survive. You don’t need alcohol.
@@zochhka re-read my comment and try to be a little less stupid.
L Dixon I’ve re read it and so far it’s only made me lose brain cells. Sorry mate
I wouldn’t call 2 hours after a meal “fasting” before exercising... but I personally have to wait minimum an hour before exercising after eating due to my GI disorders.
WHAT? I didn't even catch that. Jeez. So when I eat breakfast at 8, and workout at 11 before lunch at 12? That's fasting? Woooow.
I’ve eaten an entire watermelon in the past. Don’t judge, eat watermelon instead. Watermelon is love.
not judging! I love watermelon too
Yes! My summer "diet" consist basically of watermelon and weinschorle :D
Watermelon got me through my first trimester morning sickness. Watermelon is love. Watermelon is life.
I used to do that but then it starting giving me the shits so I had to scale it back just a bit
I've eaten an entire (not so big) watermelon alone, but not on a diet
When talking about eating intuitively, you greatly underestimate my body's ability to tell me to eat an entire family size pizza every day.
Kylee Thomason it May at first but once you’ve stopped the dichotomous thinking, those urges go away
@@AbbeysKitchen Wow. This is a gross oversimplification. It's clear you've never really struggled with overeating. It's great that you've found something that works for you, i.e. intuitive eating, but it's not necessarily for everyone or as simple as you make it out to be.
you can eat it everyday! just make it at home and make it healthy. i have a literal pizza problem and can/WILL eat it all day everyday if i can lol. Get na'an bread and use it as your own individual sized pizza crust. good luck love :)
@@AbbeysKitchen can you explain more on that. I am scared to death of intuitive eating because I just eat too much of anything... if it's apple I can up to 10..... if pizza an entire family size has mentioned in the original comment haha. I can't seem to be able to listen to those body cues you mentioned. I love eating and cannot stop myself.
MollyTornado I have to agree, unfortunately she oversimplified that instead of giving any helpful advice.
For background on her “psycho nutritionist” comment it was a nutritionist who was having her eat foods which were causing her to gain weight and feel low energy (bowls on bowls of white rice and bread), was constantly trying to get her to go on a date, and was constantly name dropping his celeb clients all the time to try and keep her interested. And when she didn’t want to see him anymore he started harassing her and reaching out to other clients to text her to vouch for him 😬
Shelby Beasley ah i see
Yeah she did a storytime video about him. He was so unprofessional and gross
Don’t forget the protein powder and supplements. He made her throw her away her protein powder and buy a brand he recommended, and when she spoke to him and said, “this protein powder’s number one ingredient is corn syrup,” and then listed off the rest of the ingredients, he went, “oh yeah, that’s total crap, don’t use that, it has total junk in it.”
Or forcing her to buy all those vitamin and mineral pills, taking 7 at a time, when her normal multivitamin contained most of those vitamins already and she was simply doubling or tripling up and peeing out the excess or in danger of vitamin toxicity, and he went, “no, no, you need these, we’re fixing your internal issues before we can work on the outside!”
Or the sexually inappropriate comments, or invitation to Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s house for dinner, or trying to badmouth Gabbie to her own trainer via another client of his.
Or my personal favorite: “Are you on your period?” “Yes, why?” “So I know exactly how crazy you get every month.”
Allegedly, since storytime UA-camr, but if even ONE of those anecdotes is true... just one of them in the entire video... Christ on a bike...
Haha, yeah. In the video without context it sounded like psychonutritionist was a pseudoscientific weird person, but yeah, she just meant her nutritionist was "psycho."
Shelby Beasley okay I’m laughing at myself here 😂 I thought someone decided to specialize in nutrition for psychological issues 😂😂 I started read bowls of white rice and was confused. Then I realize he was acting psychotic. Thank you for clearing that up. (My professor that specialized in psychology medications stressed the importance of nutrition in addition to treatment. Psycho-nutritionist sounded like a new field. )
She's a professional dietician, not a psychologist.
I don't think she is that professional
its obvious
She probably shouldn’t try to give advice like one then
A lot of mental issues go into eating habits though so dietitians are informed on psychology and the impact it has on health behaviors. They have to know this to help people who emotionally eat or undereat
@@xosecox12 I don't disagree with that, but I was pointing out how she isn't a psychologist to be a bit snarky because she has a tendency to try and diagnose things through videos, and projects her own past eating disorder onto everyone else. She is overly critical of things that are specific triggers for herself but can be perfectly normal behaviors for someone else, and is always pushing intuitive eating since it helped her as if it's a cure-all method for any disordered eating. I don't like how she is as a dietitian, so I definitely don't think she should leave her lane.
If I do what feels natural I gain weight... when I track my food and calories I flatten out or even lose weight....
Same. I think she's not getting that some people have problems doing what she calls "listening to their bodies".
Kimmehface my body wants pizza and biscuits and cheesecake and mac and cheese all day everyday. If I listened to my body I’d be morbidly obese.
@@allureofdarkness same here, my friend! 😂
Same here! MyFitnessPal has saved my life! I’ve always wanted to lose 20-30 lbs and I couldn’t do it by eating intuitively.
@@RosesareRed38 love that app!
You should review Stephanie Buttermore’s “all in” challenge!
Sarah Bassett yes!!!!
Yes! Was literally going to request this!
OMG YES YES YES YES
She said in the comments on her last video that she plans to!
You said it before I could!
I think intuitive eating is a great concept in theory but lots of people (myself included) have issues either over or under eating, so for them, calorie tracking might actually be beneficial
I found that for myself, tracking for a while and then just eating intuitively worked. I definitely think if you've either restricted or overeaten for a while, your intuitions might be a little messed up and getting back into a healthy balance can take some time. It is a hard balance because as others have said, if I full on just listened to what my body wanted I would be eating cheeseburgers and cupcakes all day. 😂😂😂 But again, I have found that if I meal plan, track, and stick to that for a while I feel better and my intuitions tend to reflect that.
Emily intuitive eating has really helped me because i have a history of binging! i am so happy the people in my life don’t force me to eat/ stop me from eating when i know what’s best for me
I'm on medications that mess with my intuition, so this.
If I listened to when I was hungry, I would never eat and just be constantly hungry but never actually recognize I was hungry, because my brain wouldn't signal it until I have a hunger headache and I'm lethargic. So it's not for everyone! (Common side effect and why it's used as a weight loss drug in the short term.)
I think you're right. People who have internalized poor eating habits would probably need to sort of train for better ones. For example, measuring out 4 oz. of chicken breast can be a good way to get a good idea of what "a serving" looks like. Eventually, intuitive eating can be achieved and that obsessive measuring can be dropped.
Yeah my trainer just got me to feel strong enough mentally to start tracking my calories and macros and the first day I entered what I ate I was shocked to realize I wasn’t even eating enough to sustain a child so counting makes me stay on top of my issues with extreme under-eating then binging once my body can’t take it
Can you please make a separate video entirely on intuitive eating? I've come from a very restrictive eating phase (of almost 4 years) and for the past month I've eaten anything and everything and put on a lot of weight. I know this is a result of that restriction but now I'm trying to eat intuitively because it doesn't seem like any particular diet is sustainable for the long term. I'd love to learn more about it from an actual dietitian!
Nawrin yes!!!
Nawrin good call. I’ll work on that
@@AbbeysKitchen you could consider combining that with a review of Becca Bristow! She practices intuitive eating.
Yes please! I have no idea how to intuitively eat. I get it's better to have a good relationship with food than to diet, but how???
in the meantime as someone who was/is in a similar position, just takes time to remember how to eat. I'm finally getting there my self control is actually better than most people's now because I know how bad it feels to binge or restrict
I’m going to have to agree with Gabby on this one. When I started counting my calories it really helped me and my journey of losing weight because it made me realise to eat the better foods. So I would say its not right to look down on people who needs to count calories to be successful in their health habits.
If I had a freezer full of cookies and ice cream, I would pound them every day. You may have the willpower to not do that, but other people don't. I know that cookies aren't good for my body, so it's a good idea for me not to buy/bake them. I don't see why this is "diet culture" language. Otherwise, great video!
One cookie won't make you fat just like one salad won't make you skinny. Cookies and ice cream aren't "bad" foods they just don't have as much nutrients as fruits or veg. Again the Abby says everything is healthy in moderation.
@@socialinteraction_8252 but the point is these foods are designed to make you keep eating them. I have learned to only buy single servings of them, so I can just eat it all without overindulging. And I don’t think calorie tracking is neurotic, it’s just a minute on an app a few times of day to make sure I’m getting a healthy amount of food. Not too much, not too little. I actually went out and got an ice cream cone as a snack yesterday because I would have had too few calories otherwise.
I honestly believe this has to do with not eating enough regularly, otherwise. I used to have this same problem and think the same thing, until I really started listening to my body and eating A LOT more throughout the day, as i started working out more as well. And now when I’m not hungry and I’m TRULY not hungry. For nothing.
Although, it will take a while to get there and if you’ve been under eating for as long as you can remember, as I was, (expect for the occasional binges, that you felt disgusting for but really was your body begging for help) then it will be super hard bc it’s your “normal” state. But yea what helped me was big breakfasts full of fruit and grains and hardy smoothies and yea if your in the mood too binge... try thinking of fruit or whole grains.
Cus typically a “binge” has to do with processed grains and sugar... like cookies... bc your body is actually begging for sugar and grains and those foods give you the highest amount the fastest. So you have to start slowly switching it out.
I'm a Registered Dietitian who finds the fitness/calorie counting apps extremely helpful for my patients. They them be more conscious about what they are putting into their bodies. Unfortunately, we are not all able to say "hey, I'm going to eat intuitively today." Most people have no idea how to do so! It's a skill that most of us lose. Just my two cents, love your videos!
Emma D I’m not a dietitian but I was thinking the same thing. I’m mostly recovered from an eating disorder but my food intuition is still off because I was restrictive for so long. I use a food tracking app to make sure I eat enough calories- sometimes I have to eat a little bit more even after I feel full. In an ideal world everyone would intuitive eat perfectly, but that advice only works if your intuition is right
Yeah, I think my intuition is all messed up. I always want to eat until I’m stuffed, not just satiated. I think this stems from childhood and always being told to finish everything and always getting bigger portions than I needed. As a result, my intuition is me eating way too many calories every time. I have found the app LoseIt to be very helpful in realizing what is enough.
Agree that it’s not a switch, but I find it’s more triggering than anything for most people. If they’re done with the support of a RD in someone who has a clear history without disordered eating, I think there may be a place in clinical settings. But I cannot recommend them across the board.
Natalie Glynn it sounds like some therapy May help you reach the root of the issue
Kylie Andrea see when I read this it reaffirms that I feel icky about these apps. I think the chronic dieting needs to be dealt with first through therapy and then you can learn to more effectively listen to your body. There are clinical settings where eating beyond satiety is necessary (ie ED recovery etc.) but for the average person this sounds like just burying yourself deeper into diet mentality
You should really watch her video on her "psycho nutritionist"! He was actually insane, don't think it was a snub on all nutritionists!
This!!
I'd love to hear your thoughts on bikini/bodybuilding competitors
i mean, they can't drink water 2 days before competition. There isn't anything healthy or good about that.
Why?
@@kaylzzzza they have to make their bodies as dry as possible, to show their muscles. My boyfriend has done that once and we almost broke up, he had no energy, we couldnt go anywhere, he was always nervous and angry. If was baaaad
"I can honestly say that I have a freezer full of cookies and ice cream and a pantry stuffed with chocolate and I rarely, rarely think about it." And that's nice for you, lady, but clearly you don't understand how it feels to not be able to leave those things where they are and not obsess over them. Not even bringing the temptation into the house is how I don't eat that whole freezer full of cookies.
jangeltrain you are doing the most and need to chill as someone that has an still is suffering from bulimia- I don’t personally keep these things in my house because i can’t control myself. HOWEVER she is just speaking and you can click off! 💜
@@kenziedoeslashes8456 He's saying that everybody deals with their cravings differently and she can't speak for everybody
Derek Ward I know what he’s saying. It’s just a stretch.
i think she's just pointing out that if you're scared of having sweets and junk food at home, your relationship to food might not be very healthy. a lot of people who have this kind of stuff at home, don't obsess over it because they have a good relationship to food. if i'd have a freezer full of cookies, i'd probably eat them in one sitting and then starve for like a week, but most 'healthy' people are not like that.
jangeltrain yeah that’s not a healthy relationship with food lol. That’s her point.
As someone who had never been taught what a reasonable portion of food looks like, and who’s mind and body never says “stop eating” until overly full, tracking calories allowed me to learn roughly what portion sizes are suitable for me. I think it’s a bit optimistic to think intuitive eating works for every, if even most, people.
I feel like like people are using the term "fitness/wellness/health journey" as code for "diet" and I'm just kind of over it.
Yep! It's just coded language. Super annoying.
OMG yes. And don’t forget “lifestyle change.” Drives me crazy!
Skyler Kilmer totally agree
Diet buried in purity/moral judgements and virtue signalling
Skyler Kilmer u r more likely to stick to a new ‘diet’ if you don’t label it as a diet.
I have to pull you up on a couple of things that you said in this video. Firstly, it seems to me that the people who predominantly slam calorie counting, like you did in this video, are people who, a) have a history of disordered eating, and b) people who have never struggled with being overweight. Calorie counting can be an useful tool for educating people on food and how to construct a well balanced diet, especially when they are in the beginning stages of losing weight/improving their diet. As someone who has struggled with being overweight, I found calorie counting incredibly helpful. It helped me to see when I was overeating and also when I was under eating. Calorie counting only becomes a problem when a person becomes fixated/reliant on it. Calorie counting does not trigger an ED or cause problems for every one who does it. That is an instant of blaming the tool rather than the user. It's also like saying everyone who drinks will become an alcoholic.
Secondly, it annoyed me when you basically bragged how you can have a freezer/cupboard full of ice cream and cookies and rarely touch them. While I agree that a healthy diet and attitude towards food incorporates treats (what is typically deemed as 'bad' food), for some people, like myself, having these kinds of foods in the house can be challenging. As someone who struggles with comfort eating, if I had blocks of chocolate in the cupboard or a litre of ice cream in the freezer, when I'm emotionally distressed, I would grab those foods and over consume them. I would much rather have my treats outside of the home or buy a single serve item to take home. I have a healthier mindset if those foods aren't in the house, because they will trigger my unhealthy eating patterns and coping mechanisms. It's just like how restrictive diets, such as veganism, or calorie counting will trigger your disordered eating.
Basically, you need to be careful of how you allow your personal experience with food and disordered eating to colour how you view and ultimately judge other people's perfectly legitimate habits and the tools they use to maintain a healthy weight.
I agree as someone who has had a binge eating disorder (not purging) I CANNOT intuitively eat. I don’t get hungry and I binge even when full. So calories and having set food plans are great.
Very well said
MollyTornado YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded.
I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. I saw 3 health professionals and each of them saw me as an overweight girl who snacked too much. I always felt unheard and incapable after trying to seek help for my binge eating. One lady told me it was due to my anxiety, which i have never been diagnosed with not did she diagnose me with it. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. If i have treats in my home I WILL eat it and most likely it will be gone in one sitting. I envy people who can forget about the chocolate in their cupboard or the ice cream in their freezer. No matter how great my relationship with food will be, I will never be able to just have cookies and other treats in my house. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
Basically, you need to not tell a licensed professional how to do her job. You have no authority on this topic - you’re just a hit dog howling. FYI if you’re calorie counting all the time and can never gain an equilibrium - congratulations, you’re a disordered eater.
@@squeezie_b8895 lmao. I don't calorie count all the time. Your comment is absurd. Congratulations, you can't think for yourself.
Oooo please review Jordan Shrinks. She's a weight loss UA-camr who is also vegan and she does veganism in a way I haven't really seen in other vegan UA-camrs.
reyandknight yes!
Love jordan💕
Yes! She also does diets where she eats nothing but potatoes for months at a time....
haley young that’s not her actual diet though ...
haley young Jordan has since talked about how the way she used to eat when she was first losing weight, including when she did the potato diet, was overboard and not healthy.
"We do not need an app to tell us what to eat"
No offense, but clearly you have never been overweight/obese. I used eat intuitively and became morbidly obese. I didn't eat a lot, I ate the wrong things.
So I started to use an app to track my calories. I have now lost 40kg in 8 months without feeling hungry and I have never felt better.
S. A Of course you also have to have some common sense.
Quality over quantity every time
would you mind me asking what app it is i am overweight and i need help
@@lovelylouisa2423 I use myfittnespal and a lot of other people do. This is just a suggestion though.
What app did you use?
btw for Abbey the "psycho nutritionist" really was specific to that nutritionist. Gabbie even has a super long storytime about his bad advice, the inappropriate comments he made to her, and the fact that he was a compulsive liar and attempted to be manipulative. She was not making a comment on nutritionists in general--just that one specifically.
Psychonutrition is a field that combines mental health and how it relates to nutrition
@@ashleyzeleznik5388 late reply but binging old videos while work is slow. Yes you're right, but they isn't what Gabby meant. She literally has a psycho ("crazy") nutritionist story
@@hannahb3786 Gabbie thinks everyone is psycho though.
why this comment kinda just aged so bad like milk lmaoo
I love the idea of intuitive eating and not tracking calories, however my intuition never tells me to stop eating and it never tells me to eat healthy foods. 😂 I feel like I have to use an calorie app as a sort of guideline to prevent myself from the health risks associated with being overweight and to make sure I’m getting enough nutrients. Maybe there’s a secret to it that I’m not aware of, but my intuition always tells me to pick up a big plate of Zaxby’s. Lol
Also it seems like you would have to track your eating to get the percentages of protein, fats, and carbohydrates you use to evaluate the diets in the end.
Exactly! I feel like with how our society is and the quick access to food, it’s best to track what you eat for at least a little while and then you mentally will know what to eat. But starting from the jump, unless you have a VERY healthy up bringing, intuitive eating may not work.
Same here! Tracking really helped at first and now I don’t track. I was eating healthy foods but huge portions and healthy snacks. Now that I’ve cut that down I’m much healthier And happier!
I do it to get enough nutrients on a budget. Argh where do we draw the line??
I really enjoy most of her content but I cannot get behind intuitive eating at all. I love having an app that helps me realize how much or how little I'm eating
I need to know approximately how many calories I'm eating otherwise I'll either restrict or eat way too much. I'd love to eat intuitively, but for the moment, I need to be aware and mindful of my meals.
Sam Hunt FX to each their own
Me too. I lose weight waaay too quickly so I have no choice either...
I'm hoping to 'calorie count' (~50 cal averages) until I establish a routine. I notice that if I eat a certain way, then my body gets used to the meal sizes. That's the level of "sustainability" I'm aiming for. :3
Abbey Sharp I would really appreciate you having an expert on answering questions about over eating and eating disorders related to that. Intuitive eating is a dangerous concept to start with for those kinds of eating disorders. I know you say to each their own, but it feels frustrating to me that you readily point out triggering or problematic thinking for bulimia or anorexia but ignore the converse. I appreciate your personal experience with your own eating, but I don’t think you realize intuitive eating doesn’t work for many eating disorders that are different from what you experienced.
I had the issue of just not being super hungry. Turns out I had depression and anxiety, once those were treated my food aversions went away and now I need to watch my portions.
You should Review how monami Frost feeds her children. Seems she is feeding her eldest daughter an unhealthy diet (mostly carbs/fat lack of essential nutrients that could easily be fixed with chickpeas, lentils )..she also omits information on supplements. Aside from unnatural vegan most vegans tend to feed their kids unhealthy diets and dont mention supplements. Monami Frost seems to also have problems breastfeeding. Which could be due to their low fat low-protein diet so she is using alternative herbal supplements to increase her milk production
CanisLupus1987 love unnatural vegan
Judging from her ig her diet has seemed to have improved from her past videos she tends to include more nuts, oils, and protein sources
my family eats a vegan (whole foods plant based) diet.
my spouse, and two kids all take supplements and get all of our vaccines.
not all vegan families do crazy vegan diets and wowo alternative medicine practices!
;) cheers to a healthy diet and lifestyle 🌱
@@Siqaiyuk which is why I referenced unnatural vegan...because most vegan youtubers have unhealthy parenting with Raw foods, lack of legumes, heavy on fruit and low in fat (children need fat and protein. )
Congratulations on your family
@@lilyobrien3264 I love her too. So down to earth.
i normally love abbey's videos but i feel like she jumped in over her head here. to my knowledge, abbey is not a trained psychologist specializing in eating disorders, but she makes a lot of judgements that gabbie's diet is disorderly(even though she clearly is aware that gabbie had an ED and obviously will always have a different relationship to food than someone who never had disordered eating habits). i would not be surprised if gabbie has still been working on her eating habits in the time since this video was posted and will probably continue for years.
using a calorie tracking app can be very important for people who never learned how to eat intuitively. same with tempting snacks(ex-alcoholics typically don't collect wine). all things are good in moderation, but if you haven't learned how to self-moderate yet, then its easier to keep stuff you struggle with outside of your house. people with healthy relationships with food may not need to "purge their house of sugar" but we already know that gabbie has a history of issues there and recovery can take the rest of your life. gabbie even addressed this in her intro pointing out that this is what worked for her and that if you obsessed over calories you needed to get professional help. i don't know gabbie so i'm not going to make a call on what is remnants of disordered eating or what is techniques to slowly transition into healthier eating, but these are possibilities. you bragging about how YOU can have your house packed with snacks without even thinking about it does not mean that the same goes for everyone.
A neuroscientist’s critique on this video: A big part of creating and maintaining healthy habits is to rely on willpower as little as possible. If it takes willpower to keep from binging on sweets, you probably shouldn’t buy them and especially shouldn’t have a freezer full. You might not even want to go into the snack/cookie/ice cream aisle at the grocery store. Humans consistently over estimate their own willpower so if you design a life that doesn’t require much use of will power, you will have healthier habits.
I think your commentary is great, but I really do think she has a point when talking about calorie tracking when you are gaining weight and don't know why (personal experience). When I used it to retrain my idea of what "enough" was, my appetite fluctuations really calmed down and it became intuitive, and I was able to move forward without it.
Juke 13 if it works for you!
I have found the in-between is also helpful for me! I use the tracker to keep me from binge eating but I don't fuss if I go over it just keeps me on track
This is the first time I would disagree with Abbey. I am someone who has nearly lost half their size, but still has the stomach capacity to eat waaaay more than someone who is naturally at my current size, and so if I eat intuitively I could easily get 4000 kcals in.. one single sitting! Having to count macros and calories and stick to a high protein diet has made me experiment with so many low calorie dense foods that are high in micronutrients. I learned that volume is key when you want to build muscle and stay lean and full. However I will say that counting calories on a diet that requires you to eat a lot of high calorie foods such as Keto will mess you up and set you for failure, since even the tiny bit of fatty foods/meats are always higher in calories compared to lean/low fat animal products. E.g 100 g of bacon has around 500 kcals, whereas 100 g of shrimp is only about 100 or so 😅
Also I forgot to add while some people from an overweight background tend to overeat and snack unconsciously, others who are skinny and want to add mass to fill out their frame will often undereat, saying that they see food consumption as a chore and are “intuitively” less hungry during the day..
Agreed. I’ve struggled with low appetite on and off for years and some days felt unable to eat food at all. I still can not eat much by volume, even when my appetite is better, because my IBS is triggered by larger meals. Tracking my calories on occaison is very important for me to make sure I’m eating enough, especially on those days where I can barely tolerate volume. I simply can’t intuitively tell how to pack the most calories per volume with the exception of ice cream and cookies, which is not the kind of thing you want to eat when you have no appetite.
I track my macros and calories while doing Keto/low carb and haven’t had any issues, I just measure everything accordingly.
Daé J Keto is high fat, low to moderate protein and barely any carbs (if you’re doing it right). Low carb is not as restrictive and therefore is way easier to track, and less triggering. Also its important to choose a “diet” that you can sustain for a lifetime even after you reach your target so you don’t fall back into your old eating habits. Good luck with your weight loss sweetie x
SGqtr thank you for the definition, but yes I’m well aware of what either or means. With Keto there’s actually a spectrum between 20-50 grams of carbs, low carb is anything 100grams or lower. Also I will personally be doing either one for a lifetime because my health depends on it.
Hey Abbey! Could you by chance do an entire video on intuitive eating? An in depth of what it is, how to start and resources to get even more information would be awesome!
Yes!
Eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full. That's all there is to say. Intuitive eating is exactly that - intuitive. Abbey has made this clear in several videos.
@@JB-rh7ej for some people, it's not as clear cut. like for me. i struggled with disordered eating for years and now, if i feel like i haven't eaten enough, I'll "make up for it".
a lot of people are the same. or due to their environment and how they grew up, the way they eat isn't intuitive at all, and they have to unlearn it. sometimes intuitive eating is also around what to eat for your body.
it's more than just "eat when hungry, stop when full"
@@berryl522 The answer is not to 'learn' how to eat intuitively. It is a case of rewiring the thinking behind disordered eating. That is a crucial distinction. Many food psychologists and dieticians have said this over and over. You do not need to 'learn' how to eat intuitively (that is exactly the point of it being 'intuitive'), and if you currently struggle with disordered eating you need to combat the thoughts and actions behind that before you can return to a place of intuitive eating.
Yes! Please!
I tried "intuitive eating", and I feel like I am pretty in tune with my body, but no matter what I was eating I didn't feel "full" so I ended up overeating a ton! And then I would go a few days without feeling hungry at all. So I would have 3 days of eating like 3500+ calories a day, followed by 2 or 3 days of eating less than 1000 calories. I felt like garbage and steadily gained weight.
I feel like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle!
I usually don’t comment on videos I disagree with but some of the comments in the video and in the comments can be damaging for some. As a former obese person who had a binge eating disorder (from chronic stress and anxiety disorders) not everyone can intuitively eat. Even when I was full I would keep eating and on days I didnt have as bad anxiety I was hungry and would eat very little. Counting calories and just knowing more about nutrition has helped me lose 60 lbs and keep it off. Having food prepared reminds me to eat so I don’t under eat. Many former binge eaters I know also have had similar problems. Some anorexics have also said the same and they don’t get hungry and have plans set up. Certain medications can make you lose appetite or increase it as well. Comments like that are JUST as hurtful and toxic as other “diet culture” phrases. It implies that we aren’t trying hard enough or doing something wrong by calorie counting or having meal plans. Losing weight isn’t wrong if it is what will make a person healthy because no at my heaviest it wasn’t “how my body was supposed to be”
TVZ5Qfighting YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded.
I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. I saw 3 health professionals and each of them saw me as an overweight girl who snacked too much. I always felt unheard and incapable after trying to seek help for my binge eating. One lady told me it was due to my anxiety, which i have never been diagnosed with not did she diagnose me with it. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
Yep the same thing happened to me I went from 160-235 maybe more I stopped weighing myself in a year. It’s had because people who haven’t gone through what we been through don’t know anything about binge eaters. Yeah and I thought it was weird that she choose this vid which was old and made judgements on a person without knowing Gabby’s past which she could have watched her journey video to get some background
"Listen to your body" that's how I ended up 255lbs, how my brother ended up 300lbs. My body said we're hungry, eat more. But when I did things like Gabby where you paid attention to what exactly you are eating, not combining one not so good food within others. She wasn't saying toast and bacon causes something wrong in your body but when you eat bacon don't add empty carbs on top like bread. Add a better carb instead. Balance your days food if you have something from the not so good for you list. Also when I started to lose weight finally it was by upping good fats Iike she did and eating like a pig. I ate so much food but it was good food, nutritional food instead of pizza and junk food. Listening to my overweight body did no good for me until I put the right tools and food in it. Then I was able to see progress.
Also I think Ms Nutrition was never severely overweight. When I first started losing weight I had to cut everything "bad" and have nothing "bad" ie junk food, candy, ice cream, empty carb items, bread etc in the house because I knew my fat ass body would say eat it. But after I lost 40 pounds I could be around those things a little bit more without undoing all of my hard work. But I found it was easier to go out for a trip to get a treat on occasion rather than have it in stock at the house. I was more successful that way. Also JUNK food is literally a term, you need to cut out all of the highly processed JUNK that has no Nutritional value. Nothing wrong with that.
I can’t believe I’m going to say this... but for the first time in my life, I actually think Gabbi is right.... I’m a little confused by how you could say that being aware of your caloric intake is unnecessary. I think intuitive eating can be good... but if you have an individual who is morbidly obese, their “happy weight” that their body “wants” to be at may be leading them to an early and unnecessary death. And to say that you should feed your body what it wants- what if it wants an entire sheet cake? I get dispelling the myths around diet culture, because so many of them are toxic. But going too far the other way gives free license to ppl with zero self control to continue to eat themselves to death. This is something that Alan Roberts has railed against continuously. Anyway. In general I love your channel, but I gotta say... as a dietician talking to a society where the vast majority are overweight and obese, I found several of your comments problematic. Perhaps a video in the near future about how you view intuitive eating is in order. I know I wouldn’t be the only one interested in seeing that.
Rebecca Gypseysol this yes, thank you 🙌🏾 I think due to Abby’s own personal struggles, she’s totally against tracking calories and “watching what you eat”. But she shouldn’t project that onto her viewers
Rebecca Gypseysol YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded.
I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. I saw 3 health professionals and each of them saw me as an overweight girl who snacked too much. I always felt unheard and incapable after trying to seek help for my binge eating. One lady told me it was due to my anxiety, which i have never been diagnosed with not did she diagnose me with it. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
I agree. Most people trying to lose weight have no idea how to "eat intuitively". We are struggling here. If I ate what I felt like my body was telling me to eat I'd still be morbidly obese. 😂
There's nothing wrong with being fat. There's evidence that weight cycling is more dangerous than being fat. There's theories that it's not being fat that is dangerous, but societal and medical discrimination against fat people. Stop.
@@Dadsneeze I would love to know where you get that information...but okay. Obesity is only becoming more and more of a problem (read:killer), and we'll only see an increase of serious health issues as people age.
I’ve seen personal watermelons for as long as I can remember, I’m in Texas. They’re just smaller watermelons so it’s easier for one person to eat the whole thing
ah i see! We don't call them that here
It's just enough watermelon for me to remember that I hate watermelon. 😂
Abbey Sharp sometimes you can snag them from BC if you’re in the west!
React to amberlynn Reid
that would be freaking wild
Yes, please
She said in a comment reply once that she thought about it but was afraid of people fat shaming Amber in the comments
@@KileyKitty21 well they should. Amber is killing herself with how fat she is.
@@KileyKitty21 I'm so thankful that she decided not to do it.
"Eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full." This is not how over eaters think. I WISH IT WAS THE DAMN EASY LADY
Her point is to take notice of that. Thats also something you should probably see a psychiatrist for.
I think satiated (no longer hungry) and "full" are VASTLY different things. its hard to stop yourself at satiated and we often go past "full" to "stuffed"
She’s a dietician. She’s giving her half of the advise.
I recommend you to watch abby's series on intuitive eating if you haven't... it was ver usefull for me, good luck
It’s a process that you’re constantly working towards. The main point of intuitive eating is to be in touch with your body. Eating a tons doesn’t always feel so good. And an intuitive eater knows that but can deliberately make the decision to do it anyway but will get over it, move on, and not feel guilty.
I find it kind of laughable what she thinks is so problematic in Gabbie's video; she seems to lack a firm grasp on the reality that people face who grew up having an unhealthy relationship with food on the other end of the spectrum, i.e. overeating. Apps for tracking can be beneficial, not having unhealthy snacks in the house can be beneficial, planning your day around your meals can be beneficial; not everyone just KNOWS how to eat intuitively, it's not that easy for people who struggle with obsessive eating but you CAN teach yourself to overcome those negative thought processes. Why she thinks Gabbie doesn't have some balance in her life or why she thinks she hasn't made strides in overcoming her disordered eating is very confusing to me. Also, not all food is healthy, and the thought behind "all food is food lets not say this is trash" is an incredibly damaging concept to be spreading.
I think, at least this has been my experience coming from generations of chronically overweight people with terrrrrrible relationships with food, our bodies, etc. the idea of intuitive eating being so flippant kinda pisses me off. I've been re-working how I think about food, how I think about what I eat etc. and training myself to eat more intuitively but it is *so*hard*. It's like having to constantly be on top of what my emotions want vs what my body wants and that is such a distinction that I and so many others really struggle with. It takes a lot of practice and effort and I wish it was treated with more awareness of that.
I do totally agree with her though on the "all food is food" thing, maybe it's just me, but demonizing any kind of food (even legitimately does-no-good-for-you kinds) isn't as productive as it wants to be.
Haley Spence Yeah totally agree on the intuitive eating thing, speaking about it in such a nonchalant way as if everyone should be able to just do it, it’s like telling a meth addict, hey man just stop 🤷🏽♀️ lol but yeah I don’t think anyone needs to demonize certain foods but it’s important for people to know which foods are less healthy than others, the approach that everything is good for your body just because it’s food I think can cause a lot of serious confusion for those who are looking at building a healthy relationship with food who have always had the “well all food is good food” approach to eating and are now suffering because of it. But I see where she’s coming from if her experience is lack of food, then that approach would be beneficial to her specifically because she would need to stop demonizing food in her mind in order to start being okay with eating more calories.
@@baquerka I'd call it more like telling a meth addict to "just do enough to be normal" like...how do you even know what normal is if you do meth? How do you even know what normal is when your perspective has been warped for x,y,z reasons?
But also, it hadn't occurred to me that the "all food is good food" mentality existed or was something that was preached xD I was raised with a very hard line between good food and bad food and a very limited number of dishes/meals that my family was willing to eat--and all the things deemed healthy/good tasted like bitter garbage to me, and still kind of do. (Looking at you *salad*, and "salad dressing".)
Kara B. I’d have to disagree. I have binge eating disorder, bulimia, and a food obsession and counting calories is incredibly bad for me. It fuels my food obsession. I think it depends on the person and if it works for Gabby, then that’s okay, but I wouldn’t say the nutritionist’s advice is bad. The intention is to avoid obsessive and disordered eating. I think for people with BED and obsessive eating can use apps, but need the self control and guidance to know when it’s too much.
when she says "all food is food" it doesn't mean that all food is healthy, but that assigning moral value to food is unproductive and unhealthy
coming from somebody who binge ate her whole life and has now lost over 20 kilos since february, I personally disagree with the idea that counting calories is somehow demonized or not allowed. I tried eating intuitively when I started trying to change my life for the better, but if you have not any time in your life experienced satiation because you always ate until your stomach hurt, it just doesn't work. I tried to figure out what the feeling of satiation was and for a long time, regardless of how little or much I ate I just didn't get a feeling of satiation, even if I waited hours after eating. I was either still hungry or my stomach hurt because I ate too much. I honestly think for me I just didn't have satiation at all because my brain didnt know how to register it because I have been obese my entire life.
In february I started eating half of what I would eat when I would binge and I started seeing weight drop, but that became unhealthy as well because I started to then think around April that I needed to eat half of what I ate when I started eating half of what I ate, meaning I was essentially eating only a quarter of what I used to. I then had 6 weeks where my body remained the same despite eating incredibly small portions of food.
I then decided to use my fit bit to log my food for about a week. And keep in mind, I have done weight watchers before, I have tried different diets, and I have been on binging sprees that would make anybody ashamed enough to hide under a blanket for the rest of their lives. But counting those calories showed me that I was eating too little, and when I started reaching my calorie goal daily, I had a feeling that I knew about how much I should be eating and I tried going blind at it again, I stopped counting calories. And despite my disordered mind, I didn't have a hard time stopping that. Maybe it's because I am truly over being obese, maybe it's because I started focusing on my hobbies so I was distracted and didn't have time to worry, but for the first time in my life the transition was really truly easy. But I started eating inutitively, using the visual cues of the amounts of food that I learned when I was counting calories, and I finally triumphed in finding the feeling of satiation. I no longer eat until my stomach hurts, and I no longer only eat enough that I feel hungry all day.
Between February and April I had lost 5 kilos, now I've lost 15 kilos more and I feel incredible. So while I agree that intuitive eating is eventually what needs to be learned, I truly do not believe that counting calories in order to establish a base line for people who have not grown up being educated about nutrition is a bad thing. To each their own, but for the first time in my life I am not afraid to order food with my coworkers and I have never felt happier on a daily basis.
Thank you for this! I'm also a person who has binge ate/starved my entire life, you have given me hope it's possible to break out
So happy that you've found something that works for you!
update: I have officially kept it up and am at 25 kilos lost. You can do it if you put your mind to it but it will not be easy!!!!!
@@HerEyesWereGreen Congratulations!!! Thank you for your inspiration!
Not everyone is a binge eater and folks who eat too little may find calorie counting apps triggering.
I need a video on how to recognize what your body is asking for. (Intuitive eating cues/tips) because I'm literally going to delete my calorie counting app.
Cara Carlson on it
It's important that you understand that Abbey has a history of disordered eating (orthorexia) and this informs her relationship with food, which is why people like her demonise calorie counting. As someone who has struggled with being overweight, I personally found calorie counting extremely useful in losing weight and maintaining a healthy weight, as well as developing a healthier diet and relationship with food. Not saying you shouldn't stop calorie counting and give intuitive eating a go, but also be weary of people who say that what works for them will work for everyone, which is ultimately what Abbey is doing with her promotion of intuitive eating.
Calorie counting was incredibly helpful to me. I thought I was being healthy and not overeating but I wasn’t at a healthy weight. I started calorie counting and realised how many calories I was overeating per day and where those calories and nutrients (or lack thereof) were coming from. I tracked until I lost about 8kg and was feeling fantastic. Energy returned, I was working out, my skin cleared up and I got compliments all the time. THEN I backed off and started “intuitive eating” based on my new knowledge and experience from tracking. For about 6 years I did this to great success, randomly tracking calories to make sure I wasn’t going overboard and knowing that I was within healthy ranges.
It was only when I started a new relationship and stopped occasionally tracking, trying to live by “intuitive eating”, that everything fell apart. Without noticing, I started craving food that was nutritionally defunct and incorporating those high calorie, low nutrient foods as staples in my diet. I didn’t notice how out of control I was because I was influenced by people around me. I gained 15kg, lost energy, and felt terrible.
I’m now back to tracking and reforming healthy habits - and I’ve lost another 10kg and feel wonderful again. My muscle content increased, my fat dropped and I started weight training. My partner is doing it alongside me and has also lost about 10kg, with serious muscle gain!
Calorie counting can be fantastic!!! I love it. It doesn’t run my life. Disordered eating can present in so many ways and of course people can abuse calorie counting like any other method of trying to improve health. That doesn’t make it restrictive, it doesn’t make it unhealthy. I think it’s hugely damaging to tell people who have no concept of how to eat intuitively to never count calories or macros - they need a base understanding and tracking is perfect for that. Even for people who understand it, blindly eating and not keeping mindful about what you’re ingesting can quickly harm your health.
Here’s another thing: when I was loosely tracking and loved my body and health, I stopped wanting things like chocolate, pizza, cookies and could have them around without overeating them. I would open the pantry and think “eh, don’t feel like that stuff” and would choose something that would actually fill me up, or satisfy cravings while providing fibre or protein or healthy fats. Or if I reeeeeally wanted pizza, I’d be satisfied with two slices and a grilled chicken salad (a concept that was outrageous while I was eating whatever I wanted - and what I wanted was always more, of everything).
But to start with, I had to get that stuff out of the house and avoid it for about a week or two, just so that I wasn’t craving the taste of it or simply in the habit of having it. Not having chips or chocolate in the house meant I would have natural yoghurt with frozen raspberries instead, or a boiled egg. After three days I was craving those foods, and it was easy to look at chocolate and think “nah, I want raspberries.”
I also recognised portions. I knew what an appropriate amount of steak looked like, vs a restaurant serving that was 4x that size. I knew that the amount of muesli my body might need or want was a sprinkle, not a cereal bowl full. If I went out with friends, I ordered entree sizes because I would feel sick if I ate a full meal - I was listening to my body.
Intuitive eating works if you already have great habits, a healthy relationship with food and are maintaining your weight. It doesn’t work for fat loss.
As for the intuitive eating recommendation, its extremely hard to listen to my hunger cues.
I've been in anorexia recovery for 8 months and I'm still learning my hunger cues. Because of the damage I did to my body, I dont experience my cues from a grumbling stomach. I have to either have someone else (my mom or my best friend) track for me; or I have to listen to my mood. I get moody and or cry/yell if I'm hungry.
I'm waiting for my cues to come back, but until they do, I have to rely on someone else counting for me.
Wonderful that you have a supportive family and "safety net" to fall back on 🙂 I wish you best of luck on your recovery
Libby Poole i recommend going to a dietician specialized in eating disorders to get a meal plan if you’re still struggling. after eating three meals and three snacks every day my hunger cues have fully come back, the only issue is extreme hunger lmao
yes!! have someone else track for you! my doctors let me track my own diet during eating disorder recovery and it took twice as long to mentally recover from everything. I hope you have a beautiful life. you are not the exception to recovery.
If I didn't use these apps my intuitive body would "guide me" to eat cake for dinner...and i've managed to lose over 30lbs with myfitnesspal so far so 🤷♀️
maybe... I have a video on intuitive eating coming out soon
I really like myfitnesspal when I was using it, but I was using it to make sure I ate enough and slowly started slipping back into disordered eating. It’s definitely a good tool, IF you can use it without falling into unhealthy restrictions. Congrats on your dedication to being healthy, by the way.
@@JacquelineUnderwood that happened to me too :(
@@thepovdweller yeah...my doctor just said I should only eat 1500 calories a day maximum regardless of hunger cues though, so I guess it’s time to try it again and hope I don’t slip. She probably won’t listen to a thing I say unless I try to do it her way
@@JacquelineUnderwood yikes
you could react to her psycho nutritionist video that'd be interesting...
Congrats on having a healthy relationship with food and being able to intuitively eat, but I think you’re kind of being unrealistic thinking that everyone can be like you. I plan my meals out making sure I’m hitting my calorie maintenance and my macros (lost my weight a while ago so I don’t need to be in any sort of deficit) and this is what works for me. If I “intuitively ate” I’d be downing junk food for all of my meals, I can’t tell when I’m full, I can’t control cravings very well, and if there’s temptation, I won’t be able to resist it. That’s why my plan which is similar to gabbies (minus perhaps the bacon because ew) is better for me than your “intuitive eating”
You should watch Abbey's earlier videos because she used to have an eating disorder and she explains she has only been in this place in the last couple of years, and she's been open about the challenges involved.
As a new mom, I’ve been looking for positive sources of fact based info for diet and nutrition and was happy to find your channel because your videos seemed, for the most part, very logical, with a light way of discussing these topics and breaking them down.
I really relate to Gabby. She’s been trying to find ways to tackle her weight loss in a healthy way, has sought the necessary help and is excited to have found methods that work for her.
Obviously some of your commentary here is very sound - (E.g. bacon). I am always happy to hear about your thoughts on specific foods / combinations / schedules for eating and working out.
But the rest of this video really turned me off. You could hardly resist expelling a hearty dose of judgment, eye rolling and condescension. At times you even laugh out loud in disgust/ exasperation at Gabby, and over rather small comments from Gabby. Gabby herself admitted she’s not a nutritionist. You knowing more than her about this topic doesn’t win you a gold star and, frankly, no one is going to pat you on the back for being so perfect that you’re able to ignore having cookies and ice cream in your house and not eat them. I think you’ll find that the vast majority of your viewers are more like Gabby, or have a history of ED or unhealthy eating (otherwise... why would we need to seek out dietitians on UA-cam?). You would be wise to take your arrogance down a notch and learn a little more about these issues if you aren’t equipped to discuss them.
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Hm… interesting, I actually didn’t take the things Abby was saying or the way she was reacting that way at all. Maybe there’s another explanation for Abby’s behavior?
watching this in 2020 lol, Gabbie actually mentioned she was dealing with disordered eating habits at the time of this video, despite it appearing “healthy” - so you were definitely correct, she opened up about it bordering on orthorexia
Re: "People who have a healthy relationship with food don't need to purge their home of sugar." Give the girl a break. She is a former food addict who is in the process of healing. Demanding that she stock her home with junk food is sort of like telling a recovering alcoholic that they should make sure they have alcohol in their home, because "people who have a healthy relationship with alcohol don't need to purge their home of it".
Abbey, I can definitely understand your perspective on intuitive eating vs calorie counting and I think you are incredibly intelligent and well educated, but I think for certain people, eating intuitively might be more difficult than counting calories. There were times in my health journey where I had such a strong urge to binge eat sugary processed foods that I really think I needed to track what i was eating to stop myself from doing it. I was not restrictive with my calorie intake, I would only decrease a couple hundered calories from my TDEE. I know intuitive eating is the ideal way humans should live, but some people just arent to the point where they can hear what their body truly wants and all they can hear is what they are craving for instant gratification. I eat much more intuitively now that I'm healthier, but I feel like tracking helped me to eat more nutrient dense foods! I think your perspective on intuitive eating may be helpful to people recovering from a restrictive eating disorder, but intuitive eating might not be possible for people who have a strong urge to use junk food as a drug to comfort them.
I really disagree with the thing about not counting calories because we need to eat intuitively. For some people counting calories can actually be very helpful and not everyone is able to "eat intuitively".
it can be helpful for some people, and be harmful for others
YES 👏🏻 Gabbie’s video was literally filmed a year ago, so I found this to be somewhat pointless. It’s educational, but it may or may not be Gabbie’s current diet.... What really bothers me about this video is the comment “Gabbie seems to believe that she was able to turn off the disorderly thoughts and get over it and start to count calories healthfully again. Which is honestly not really a thing that I’m aware of that chronic dieters are capable of.” Gabbie suffered with bulimia and anorexia for a long time. She went to therapy for her eating disorders, depression, and body dysmorphia. In her video she encourages anyone struggling with building a healthy relationship with food to seek professional help. I believe Abbey’s assumption that she “turned this off” or that she believes others can “turn this off” is completely clouded.
I suffered with Binge eating for the majority of my life. My mom had me on crash diets with her when i was in elementary school. My “intuitive eating” led me to gain weight over the years and at one point I gained 40 pounds in about 6 months. Some days I could easily eat 3000 calories or more, and other days I may only eat 500. I NEED to count calories and track my food to understand what is entering in my body, to HAVE a healthy relationship with food. This ability evolved over many years through trial and error. This video truly irked me due to Abbey’s assumptions regarding Gabbie’s view on calorie counting and those who struggle with a dieter mentality.
Abbey Sharp You make it seem like it is harmful for everyone in this video.
@@AbbeysKitchen then why are you saying F* calorie counting? You sound crazy lady
I’m short and at 13 was gaining weight rapidly but when I started counting my calories I dropped (like 2 days ago) to 51kg and I feel so much better. It works very well for some and it’s obsessive for others.
My eating disorder started from an anxiety disorder and I had no control over natural hunger cues or how to eat normal meals but a macro counter has really helped me because it decreased the anxiety around calories and food. I haven’t abused it either. I use it when I know I’m going to be around a lot of food I’m unfamiliar with. When I know I’ve eaten over 1000 calories in one meal it’s a cue to me to tune into my body and ask myself “am I still hungry?” “How am I feeling about this?” “Am I at risk of bingeing?”. I’m also in school for dietetics so nutrition is a passion. I think calorie counters can be a useful tool.
I feel like it's hypocritical of you to say there's no "fix-all" when it comes to someones diet, that we all need something different, then turn around an preach intuitive dieting as if it so easily works for everyone
Exactly,because it doesn't...
It doesnt “easily” works on everyone... it’s work and effort and it’s painful but so worth it! You just have to get a professional to help you. I have experience in this subject, been dieting since I was 6 and now that I’m 26 finally stopped and I’m eating more intuitively. I follow Jessie Jean on IG and her podcasts are amazing too! You can do it! But it’s WORK! It doesnt happen overnight and it’s painful, your body and brain can get used to eating intuitively but you have to want it and do each step
A calorie app does NOT tell you what to eat. A calorie counter helped me realize what calories were in what foods. You can track food/calories and listen to your body. If I feel hungry I eat more food if I'm not I eat less food. I use a calorie counter and eat way more healthy then I ever have. I love my diet I love how I eat now. I feel so much better. Sorry but a calorie app user for 3years and still very very happy and sustained.
I really hate how much you put down tracking of foods. As someone with an eating disorder tracking was key in helping me recover and gain some control over my disorder. Not all of us can intuitively eat, for some of us the body's eating clock is broken and our relationship with food is broken.
It's not 'buying into diet culture' to track the macros and calories you intake in order to gain a better understanding of what your body prefers eating while making sure you are not grossly over or under eating.
Tracking isn't forever but its a helpful tool.
I'm a bit disappointed with this video.
it can be useful for some people, but I won't recommend it to everyone
now that I'm far enough in my recovery tracking helps but it sucked before
@Maj Hill Yeah - I think going based on feeling would be a lovely way to eat and it's what we should all strive for but I know based on my disorder some sort of structure and therefore 'rules' are necessary for me to not slip back into truely dangerous eating habits and thinking.
Maj Hill yes thank you! Your explanation is much better than mine but that’s exactly how I feel! Having a sense of understand (through macros) and responsibility (through tracking) over my eating habits was a real game changer for me personally 🤗
@@AbbeysKitchen so why didn’t you clarify that? Like Gabbie did?
Could you please do a video about weight loss surgery and good things to eat, I’ve been struggling with deficiencies since my gastric sleeve and I’d like to hear your input 🙂
There is a really great podcast called food psych that did an episode on this!
What's your experience with the sleeve? I'm considering it because i have pcos, hypothyroidism, and insulin resistance. Weight lose is sooooo slow for me and my body is starting to hurt from the weight. I was walking for two days on vacation(i normally work out so im used to this but at a gym) and it was just striding and somehow injured my Achilles tendon. Such BS. 😑
Alexiss C the best decision I’ve ever made, it’s not been plain sailing but I’m always glad I had it done, I’m a lot happier and I like the way that it’s for life as I know I’ll always have issues with food.
@@PrincessSquig thank you for the reply! I'm glad to hear that it's helped you. :)
Alexiss C 200 pounds down ☺️
I really enjoyed this video. I like how you review diets but you’re not criticizing everything and telling everyone to go vegan.
thank you!
Except the healthy carbs jargon all the time.
Sometimes carbs don't sit well for a lot of people, like the fatty foods don't sit well for her before a workout.
But then again, they haven't really learned anything new in decades, in nutrition foods these days.
Just look at who sponsors dietitian medicine and the like.
I can't really intuitively eat when trying to lose weight. It does not work for me. I usually undereat, then overcorrect and overeat and just stay the same weight.
I have had great success tracking my calories, I don't obsess over it but it helps me better gauge where I am.
I don't believe that just anyone can intuitively eat, especially if they have a history of binge eating or on the other side of the spectrum not eating enough.
As a child I grew up eating pasta and ice cream on a daily basis. And overeating constantly. That was how my family ate, and I had no reference to what was “normal,” or “healthy,” til I was already 12 years old. My mom and dad told us vegetables were good, and that “too much,” sugar was bad. That was my nutrition education until I joined public school. And then public school said that carbs from things like bread, potatoes, and pasta were what we were supposed to eat the most of.
I didn’t lose weight until my junior year of high school after my parent’s divorce and the death of my grandmother when I stopped eating. 700 cals a day, then 400, then 300, and a few days sprinkled in where I only drank water. I fainted a few times and everyone told me I looked amazing and I was such a success story. They put me in the school paper.
I went to college and started eating again, gained a bunch of weight back, yo yo’d for the next 5 years and finally decided that I was never going to count another calorie in my life. I went to therapy, I had a wonderful mentor who taught me a lot about nutrition and made it a point to show me and the rest of my fitness class that the same body looks drastically different depending on what you do with it and that no matter what it looked like it was OKAY. I look at serving sizes sometimes, and I still shy away from high carb counts on some packaged foods, and particularly when I do feel hunger ques I can get really emotional and spiral for a few minutes before I realize what’s happening- but I’m ok. It’s gotten so much better since I started caring for myself. I cook great meals for myself and my loved ones, some days I workout- I don’t love my body. But I appreciate it.
Point being: this has been a 25 year journey for me. It doesn’t get fixed for most of us, and doing it in a year or two is usually not sustainable. You have roughly 80 years to figure it out and some people literally never do. If you do, It’s not the most important thing you’ll do. If you don’t, it will never be a priority to anyone, ever, to know how much you weighed. I promise.
Hey Abbey, I’m wondering about the legitimacy of “ideal weights”. You know, all these charts and graphs that you plug in your age, height and gender into to find your “ideal” weight. I learnt about it in grade 7 and I’ve been striving toward it (even subconsciously) ever since.
However, since I started watching you and learning about intuitive eating and anti- diet culture living, I really have began to question its legitimacy and healthiness. I understand they’re not the end all and be all but do they have any validity?
Thank you for busting all the diet culture myths you do and guiding viewers toward a healthy body and mind. I appreciate it!
I was going to ask for a video about this as well. I have always been on the high end of the BMI but I wonder if that's how my body wants it to be, as in, I don't need to restrict food to be healthy. Is there any science that suggests that some folks just have bigger/smaller bodies than average?
Not a dietician but I can say BMI and your weight is definitely not the end all and be all to being a "healthy individual". This is when I would really rely on your GP to look over your annual (or hopefully more often than that) blood tests to see if all your cholesterol, vitamin, hormonal, etc levels are in check for a person with your medical history. I personally don't see much accuracy to BMI charts because some people have had a higher BMI just due to their height and weight but have perfectly fine bloodwork, no history of chronic disease or little risk for future chronic illnesses! However, if this really concerns you (I e. You or your family has some metabolic conditions to note) then I would definitely consult a nutritionist or GP one on one to hollistically assess your physical health.
@@jessicabecker9403 yes this would be great! I too have always had a high-ish bmi (the high end of ideal/borderline overweight) in my adult life and I lose weight kind of easily if I don't eat my usual amount but my weight hasn't given me any physical health issues.
Jessica Becker-Sattler I believe there is science for this. Look up set point theory, it basically states that your body wants to be at a certain weight, and at this weight is where it functions the best. So for some people it’s a BMI 18.5 and others it’s a BMI 28, but don’t go on BMI. It depends on your body. Basically if you need to restrict heavily to maintain a weight, your body isn’t happy there even if your BMI is 20. So some people have a set point that is higher than others, it’s in your genes. But if you don’t have to restrict at your weight, then I’d say you are at your set point (which is a range of 5-10 lbs) and you’re listening to your body. Honestly you’re doing great and listening to what your body wants, so keep it up. BMI is a load of crap, it isn’t really helpful at all. Good job on listening to what your body wants
That’s why there is a 40 pound range with in each height. So you and your doctor can decide your healthy weight. Unfortunately health isn’t emotionally based being obese isn’t healthy and comes with health concerns even being overweight raises the risk of some disease
But I was wondering about people who overeat. What about someone like me where it's very hard to tell when I have had enough. Why isn't calorie counting good then.
I would love some advice on this too, I do try to 'listen' to my body, but I can easily eat way too much.
I will work on a video for this
I would love a video like this. Whenever I try to really eat intuitively I tend to gain weight
I’m wondering the same thing because I’m the same way. I’m all for intuitive eating, there’s just a lot of days where I feel like I over eat or under eat.
I'd like this too, though I think it's more of a job for a psychologist than a dietician.
Abbey, in this video you mention (as you did in your wonderful personal orthorexia story) that it's unhealthy to restrict or count calories. A lot of the eating disorder stuff that you speak of is related to people eating too less. But what about binge eating disorder when you're trying to lose weight. Or really any kind of video about BED.
You talk about how calorie counting isn’t needed because our bodies will tell us if we are getting enough through intuition, but what if you’re not good at listening to your body?
After my partner and I started going out, I found that we both gained weight (as a lot of people do when they enter a relationship). I have exercised more than I ever have in my entire life, and I eat healthier, but I still gained weight.
When I started using calorie counting apps I found that it was down to my portion sizes. I was cooking healthy nutrient rich food, but lots of it. Counting calories helped me see what a healthy portion size looks like.
I think if we have grown up with unhealthy eating habits like “eat what’s on your plate” etc, we never learn to listen to our bodies. I feel that calorie counting apps can be good for getting us on the right track in those instances. They help us figure out where we are going wrong.
So I don’t think they are always unnecessary and unhealthy.
i think it’s incredibly backwards to assume that every body has a perfect sense of what foods to eat or not eat, when i ate intuitively i was chronically underweight, not because i was starving myself, i was eating A LOT, but as a teenage boy turns out i had to eat way more, and a calorie app helped me
Could you do a video on intuitive eating? Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't see a video from you on it.
Brittany Grillo that’s the plan!
@@AbbeysKitchen Yees!! :D
Becca Bristrow is on UA-cam and is a Registered Dietician and she has some awesome videos on intuitive eating!! ❤️
I LOVE your content. I’m a trainer in Canada and am forwarding so many of your videos to clients who are confused. I am working through my preferred nutrition course now and hearing your videos is so helpful for practical knowledge to one day assist me in helping others. You are a role model for me, thank you for that. I look forward to future videos. Knowledge is power ❤️
Heather Szentimrey so happy to hear that! Thanks so much 😊
Preach! 🙌 I loved how much you addressed diet culture! I'm in recovery and it's pervasive everywhere in my life. It's nice when someone else calls it out, too!
graceyloufb totaly
I was kinda disappointed that you left out the parts of her video where she says specifically that she doesn’t cut out any of the food groups, and also the part where she breaks down her macros and talks about how she listens to her body and adjusts her macros to adjust to how her body feels after eating certain things. She also talked about sustainability by being strict for a year then being able to let up because your body bounces back quicker but you cut that out too.
Hey, this seems pretty biased since you're coming from the undereating side of the spectrum, but what may work for undereating does not work for overeating. It's a different kind of obsession, and it is largely psychiatric and I do not believe a dietician is certified to make some of the suggestions you have. It sounds like you take some of Gabbie's methods very personally, and to speculate about her still have disordered thoughts to the degree that you do seems inappropriate. You are not her doctor, and there is a reason doctor's are not supposed to diagnose people without seeing them in person. It also sounds like you are too into intuitive eating. It does not work for everyone, namely overweight people. You are turning food into some kind of moral thing and appear to be reading too much HAES propaganda, which has coopted language traditionally used to help people who undereat. And it appears you are making the same mistake. What is healthy language and lifestyles for those who have an undereating disorder cannot be blanketly applied to those with overeating disorders. I intuitively have eaten all of my life, and I ended up overweight because of it, slowly gaining weight since I was a child. If you realize that this is individual, you should know that one thing will not work for everyone. While counting calories may trigger someone with anorexia, it is an essential tool for those who do not know what a healthy portion is. I encourage you to try to break out of this box you have ordered your thoughts about this into, because while you may be a dietician, many professionals have contrary opinions to yours and it seems you have a real blindspot when it comes to issues you have not dealt with personally.
Very well said! I was about to comment the same thing. I’m really glad you brought attention to this.
Very well written and said
On the other hand, she’s also aware that people who need to lose weight end up spiraling into eating disorders (like ObesetoBeast went through) so she’s cautious of people developing triggering behaviors when they initially have good intentions
Psssst
We get it you’re a gabbie Stan. She’s a RD and you’re not. Just cuz you don’t like it doesn’t make what Abbie said not valid. Clear your own blind spot. And under eating? She promotes eating 2k-3k calories a day dude
I know this is 8 months old but thank you for this comment 🖤🖤🖤
Will you talk about Stephanie Buttermore? She is a fitness person who recently went on a "all in" diet where she's eating AT LEAST 5000 calories a day for health reasons and I just can't wrap my head around how that could be beneficial.
Marque Philpot that’s coming up
That sounds just awful to be honest :O
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It can be helpful for her if you are used to under-eat severely while working out intensely
I've been watching you're videos for a bit and you remind me SO much the registered dietician at my previous eating disorder treatment center. And she was AMAZING! Your videos and your perspectives on food are SO healthy (I mean healthy for the mind in this case 😉) and have been beneficial for me when I find myself reverting back to that good/bad food black and white thinking that led to everything in the first place.
Anyways, my point is thank you! It's great to hear someone speak so rationally and healthily about food, diet, fitness, etc. 💖💖💖
Love your videos! As a recovering cyclical dieter I appreciate your common sense and balanced approach. Thanks for making science-based content in a diet culture world!
thank you!
As someone diagnosed with hypothyroidism it's really important I track my meals with an app. Eating intuitively and eating the amounts "my body told me to" I would only eat around 600 calories a day and I damaged my metabolism so much from restrictive behavior, and became overweight. (Yes, this can happen. It's a real thing. Your ED actually does harm your metabolism, y'all) Now, I have to eat my meals exactly three hours apart, on a timer, and eat a snack, and log them to make sure I get at least 200 calories at a time. Forcing myself to eat enough (and calculating my cals) when I'm not hungry is the ONLY way I have lost weight, even with thyroid meds and everything.
This video is way too negative and shows you don’t necessarily have the best idea about eating disorders
I don’t understand this whole “food is food” thing. Like yes i understand food is food, but what I don’t understand is where chips, pizza, cakes (etc. of classic “unhealthy foods”) would be considered healthy or under the saying “food is food” category. How will eating that way make you healthy or lose weight or maintain a heathy weight/ balance.
If you eat a small portion of those foods it should be fine
A small thin-crust Italian style pizza with veggies, ham instead of pepperoni,... is much healthier than a large stuffed-crust Pizza Hut pizza (which feels deep-fried honestly) with pepperoni, extra cheese,....
Maybe pizza is never very healthy but I never worry about it too much because I prefer the healthier option anyway and it's really not too bad then.
over time, one should learn to have a small portion of "junk" food and they will have no problem losing weight if they stay within a caloric deficit
Because it's not about these foods being healthy or them allowing you to lose weight ! It's about your relationship to food and being able to view it as what it is and not assign a moral value to it
Hello Abbey! I'm also a nutritionist and I really love your channel and your videos. The content you make is so great and so truthful!! Thanks a lot for this!
Just wanted to say one thing: in terms of hydration after a workout I don't think water is the most ideal drink since like a drink with less than 5% of CH and a bit of salt would open the sodium and glucose channels and osmosis would happen faster. Thus you get hydrated much faster. Just want to get your honest opinion about this!
Thanks a lot and keep up with the amazing work.
Gabbie's way of talking about food and way of eating sounds exactly like mine when I ended up in binge eating. Rules about eating, waiting a certain amount of hours between the meals, planning the day around food, etc etc. It feels sustainable in the beginning, you lose wait, you look good and feel good but then it doesn't work anymore. I hope she ends up at intuitive eating in the end. It's a long process but worth it. No rules, no restrictions, no planning the day around food. Soo freeing 💜❤
I lost over 80lbs 7 years ago and kept it off, and I was doing it on purpose, I still track because I have to, I binge eat to the point of making myself sick (I’ve downed a family size bag of mini eggs in less than an hour), so if I ate intuitively I’d be incredibly overweight. Eating intuitively doesn’t work for everyone, tracking calories and macros is so simple and it does work and doesn’t take very much time at all.
31:23 any habit change requires you to be strict with yourself in the beginning to build the habit. Doing it consistently and not intentionally taking a day off until you’ve firmly established the habit. Things like learning an instrument, or stretching, sewing or whatever. Eating is the same way. If you’re giving up soda, you can’t have your “once in a blue moon soda” 3 days into that habit change. You have to go a while with no soda and then you can start having it occasionally. The number I hear thrown around is 21 days or so?
“Being strict” about food temporarily is not inherently a diet, let alone a disorder. Giving up caffeine or sugar or something for 30 days is a perfectly normal, healthy way to make a long term change, provided that the change is small.
Exactly. I'm currently three days into a healthy eating plan. It's not restrictive calorie-wise, and it's well-balanced, but I still have to struggle hard against the urge to binge all day. People like her (recovered anorexics) do not understand this because they have never experienced it. All they've experienced is the opposite.
Pleaseee review Raw Alignments new diet. She recently went from raw vegan to pretty much a carnivore diet.
Tallie Morgan YAS PLEASE
I think counting calories is SO helpful and I lost/kept off 80 lbs doing so. It makes you aware of what is in foods/appreciate foods like veggies that provide bulk at a low caloric cost and helped me be more accountable/aware of what i was putting into my mouth throughout the day. Without counting, its easy to lose track of what you've eaten. I would just graze all day thinking "I haven't really eaten that bad", when in reality i'd eaten hundreds of calories in excess. If I had started off trying to lose weight eating "intuitively" I'd still be giving into every craving and binging.
I've maintained the same weight for over 10 years from intuitive eating. Never excersized (other than my normal outdoor activities)
I think you are maybe pulling apart her video a bit too much and being a little hard on her and really focusing on specific words.
She did say that it works for her and not to take her word a gospel. She seems happy and looks healthy.
I do agree with you that the bacon is a lot every day. I know a lot of body builders and I see alot in her that I see In their diet.
But she is way less extreme. If she went more extreme with weighing food and counting macros then definitely I would say she could have orthorexia.
Good video but “intuitive eating” and “listening to your body” can easily be unhealthy for many. Hormones and conditioning (mental patterns & habits) will dictate how someone intuitively eats. Studies have shown that individuals become leptin resistant if they’re overfed consistently. Then there’s cortisol release which can be linked to food habit loops when emotional eating is part of someone’s life, or even when their parents conditioned them to eat for comfort in times of stress. I’d argue that our bodies are not so smart they tell us when to eat and when to stop, and don’t make small adjustments naturally, and we all do not have a healthy set point our bodies are telling us to equalize too. Many studies show that the hormones and compounds that control those signals can signal individuals to actually do the opposite. If you have research that shows the successful intuitive eating trials please cite it when you talk about intuitive eating.
“Your body will guide you to eat the right amount of food”
Is this channel just for people with normal habits, or disordered under eating? Because if so: say so.
I mean to be fair she can only give her opinions from her point of view and her experiences
Hi there, I just wanted to add some personal experience and also to say that Abbey has struggled with an eating disorder in the past. For me, I have had trouble listening to my body after bingeing in my early teen years to on and off yo-yo dieting for almost ten years where I would binge and then "get back on track" and end it with periods of binge eating. I hear your concerns but just want to say that even saying something like "the right amount" of food is individual and that is what intuitive eating is meant to try towards. Outisde sources of information (diet plans, even calorie counters) may not be what your body ACTUALLY needs. When I first started to intuitively eat, I gained a lot of weight and always kept in the back of my mind that my body would eventually get to a point where it would lose all of the weight. But I was really thinking about it wrong. When I kept that goal in my head, I couldn't focus on listening to my body because I was still moralizing food and demonizing my body for gaining weight. But letting go of that idea, slow as it has been, has given me the insight that I feel better in general (no more not having enough energy to get out of bed, no more feeling freezing all the time even when """overweight""""). And I still overeat! It is not a 1 week, or 1 month process. This is something that you have to try to practice forever without feeling like gaining weight is a sign that you are failing. For me, and I'm thinking other people too, my binging was either emotional or my body telling me I had been under eating for years. Sometimes both. That's simply my experience and I hope it tells you a little more about intuitive eating and binging. Intuitive eating is based in a slow, long, process where you aim to try to listen your body more while letting go of the fear that your body might gain fat.
i agree with you 100%... i eat virtually the same stuff gabbie eats, with the exception of a few things. My body DOES NOT guide me in how much or how little to eat. I can eat and eat and eat and my body won’t tell me to stop. and on top of that, it’s all the wrong and unhealthy foods. i find it off putting that this woman thinks intuitive eating would work for everybody. she rubs me the wrong way for some reason
@@mikepierce2824 u can’t be biased if you’re a registered dietitian.
Do Amberlynn Reid!!!
I'd like you to review one of the videos by Dr. Jason Fung. He's one of the largest proponents of fasting as a means of weight loss.
Yes! Please do a fasting video
Yes please. Dr Fung is a Canadian Nephrologist and author of the Obesity Code and the Diabetes Code. He runs a clinic where they treat metabolic disorders with food and fasting. His methods are fascinating and show a lot of positive results. I also enjoy Dr Mark Hyman who also has lots of interesting ideas about food as medicine.
I’ve learned from watching your videos that I am extremely blessed to have grown up around people with healthy relationship to food and to have developed a healthy relationship myself. Intuitive eating is all I’ve ever known. Before watching your videos I really took for granted how complicated relationships with food can be and I will NEVER take that for granted again.
I thought I was over my disordered eating, but seeing your video made me realize I'm not. When I first saw Gabbie's video it really resonated with me. I agreed with all she said... Your video really opened my eyes.
You should do mykie (glam & gore). She also got into the “healthy” fitness lifestyle and started training for a bikini competition.
PLEASE.
She's training and working towards a body she really wants, and is working with a qualified trainer? No dig, just don't understand what the issue is with what Mykie is doing?
@@ordinarybread just a lot of people are concerned about her intense cutting and how much shes working out vs the calories she takes in
Undead Hummus I believe she has a warped idea of what is “healthy” and has unrealistic expectations when it comes to the body type she is trying to achieve. It wouldn’t be as big of a deal if she didn’t have such a large audience but I think it can be problematic when there are millions of young girls watching her thinking that training for a bikini competition is doable, sustainable, or healthy. Obviously she didn’t end up doing the competition, because it’s literally impossible to obtain the body needed for that within a few months when she has 0 experience and 0 years of training towards it, so maybe her ideas are different now and we’ll see when she makes a follow up video but it’s dangerous to promote that type of lifestyle. She seems to have the same kind of mindset that Gabbie has towards food and it can be triggering to many people.
@@aureliabishh thank you! You explained it very well.
I really appreciate how unique your videos are to the diet culture we are trapped in. Intuitive eating is the best "diet" a person could be on truly, even if I think sometimes you may oversimplify how easy that can be at least coming from someone who used to overeat a lot. Related to intuitive eating, you should react to Stephanie Buttermore's All In video!
Farah Pitcher thanks so much
And yes it’s coming
Unfortunately not everyone can do that many medications block hunger or increase it, and others like myself (binge eating/ former obese) just cannot tell. I have heard anoretic people have said that same which is why they can’t gain. It’s not one size fits all
That calories amount seems low considering she did a two hour workout..
Yeah I was surprised she didn't mention that! I don't know Gabby's size, she doesn't seem that tall, but it still seems low
@@samanthab9340 I think she's 5ft4?
@@kerri8037 I think she 5'7? I could be wrong tho
@@mercedemarie5612 just googled it and apparently she's 5'5 but I dunno how trustworthy the website is haha
Telling people not to use a calorie tracking app when they're trying to lose weight? Make it make sense. Some people aren't able to "read" their body intuitively, and counting helps with that. Intuitive eating may have been helpful in caveman times when processed foods weren't a thing (like Paleo diet)
Don't tell people not to count calories, especially if it works for them. And "junk" food definitely isn't just a label, as you mentioned, and calories aren't created equally.
Rant over, thanks for coming to my TED talk
There were a couple points that I disagreed with, but the one that stuck with me the most was the idea of “intuitive eating” in relation to “WE DONT NEED APPS TO TELL US HOW TO EAT”. Because I dealt with an eating disorder, I could not “intuitively eat”. Now I worked on this for years with a therapist and I did have to plan my days around meals so that I would eat because I was not eating enough. It was part of my healing process.
I agree with another commenter on relating purging certain foods to purging alcohol to an alcoholic. In some cases it can be necessary at the beginning of the healing process but can be reintroduced at a later point in time. Hope that makes sense....
Overall I don’t think this video was that sensitive to those who may have unhealthy relationships with foods or disorders....