LMM does the Statfold Barn Enthusiast Day - to show Ash the K1! Chasing Dinosaurs Ep.3
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Hello all you fine and wonderful people,
Today Lawrie ticks a big one off his bucket list and finally visits the Statfold Barn Railway - with the intention of showing Ash his first Garratt!
A big thank you to everyone we met during the day - it was super.
Fair warning, this is a long one guys, so grab a drink, sit down and enjoy.
A video featuring:
Lawrie - Presenter, happy to be around steam again,
Ash - just blown away by everything.
A video edited by Lawrie
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Lawrie: 'I love this'
Ash: 'Wow'
Lawire: 'Oh, look at that'
Ash 'Wow'
That was effectively the whole day
This is basically me any time I go with family to a train museum or a heritage line
Lawire later in the day I am going to buy it
@@sawyerawr5783 you saying wow?
@@scubajoe3321 no, my family saying wow as I basically give hem a narrated tour XD
My uncle used to drive a Beyer-Garratt, more precisely the William Francis formally of Baddesley Colliery which was situated about 10 miles from Statfold Barn. I've a great pic of him of the footplate.
Oh William Francis is a superb machine. Bressingham keep talking about overhauling it
@@lmmI really want to take my father over to Bressingham to see it. Keep putting it off though...next year I hope.
The second you said Messerschmitt I was looking away from the screen and darted back expecting to see a Bf-109 at a steam museum XD
😂 Not quite
I suppose. for me, the best part was watching Lawrie and Ash grinning from ear to ear like two kids in a candy shop, and listening to two grown men call locomotives "beautiful." A wonderful collection, beautifully preserved and so much better to see it being used rather than just deteriorating on display. Thanks for sharing and taking us along on the ride.
You're welcome. Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
Thank you for being my eyes and ears. That was a brilliant tour.
You're most welcome
Nice video. I was driving the big green Bagnall “Isibutu”. Glad you enjoyed your day
Absolutely gorgeous looking thing, what's it like?
Big and green :D
It’s lovely: my personal favourite. The Peckett “Harrogate” is wonderful but the big Bagnall just has something a little extra about it. We got another go on it at the September do and that was her last weekend in service. She’s now out for 10 year overhaul, hence the clanking in this video. Hopefully not too long before she’s overhauled and back out :)
You can find my blog post about that day at:
sambrandist.blogspot.com/2020/08/beautiful-isibutu-tongaat-sugar-bagnall.html?m=1
You don't see narrow gauge locomotives running parallel to each other very often! Hell, there aren't really too many railroads that exist where such a thing is even possible these days!
It's pretty special isn't it!
I think you have found a "rescue car" for the LMMons...😂😅
It'll be the only one which won't make the trip!
22:04 those wee electric locos are "the eclipse" and "the coalition", which came from the Llechwedd slate mine. The last time I saw one of them it was sitting outside at Llechwedd looking rather neglected. I'm glad they're being preserved.
Fantastic place! The collection of locomotives on display is astonishing, so much in steam! The parallel running shots were just incredible. Something I find really impressive about this place is the very curated way the running lines and museum are set up, it adds a lot of presentation value to the whole experience to see narrow gauge stuff trundling over an open field, then through a narrow garden passage, and so on. It's almost like a moving sculpture garden, featuring industrial 2ft gauge engines. And the battery tram, of course.
As important as K1 is, though, I think my favorite one you guys filmed was Isibutu.
Lawrie, you want to visit on a dedicated enthusiast day as that is when we have a good 16 locos running at once!
Must be amazing
I'll have to do that!
I think this was taken on the enthusiasts day this year?
@@shymike it was
The statfold barn has been on my bucket list for ages . And the K1 what a perfect day,the two small electric locos were on display at blaneau ffestiniog for many years and if I recall were built there on the remains of two steam locos
HUNSLET HUNSLET on a Saturday morning 30 of us bus drivers would take our busses and line up out side Hunslet engineering works at (jack lane) and the pubs all of which had one or two foot ball teams and take them to there football matches then back to the pub after. I think the only remaining pub down there now is the swan. Tragically, a retired engineer has just sold all of his tools. I can't believe that it's all gone. All that engineering experience, even the beer isn't made in Leeds any more tetleys was like drinking Champagne. Thank you for the video I shall pay a visit. Fantastic.
Those where the days!
You're most welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
A cool bit of Tasmanian history there. I would've loved to have seen the K's and ASG's do their thing on the West Coast.
Oh must have been amazing.
We're lucky here to see the South African Garratts charging through Snowdonia these days.
Lawrie and Ash , thanks for taking us along on your trip. I enjoyed seeing all of the railway and the engines. To me the Statfold Barn Railway is the worlds largest railway model shop. I would have one of each if I had the money and the space. Thanks again. Charles M .
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
You are right. The K1 is STUNNING.
Cracking bit of kit!
What a place, and a great video too, which shall hence forth be known as the 'Wow' video. Cheers
Thank you, maybe I should just rename it that 😂
So when are you taking Ash to the Welsh Highland to see Garretts pulling long trains on steep grades? I'd watch that!
I wish events like this happened in the US regularly like they do across the pond. That would be a lot of fun to go to!
Statfold Barn Railway is a very impressive set up.
That Plymouth looks just bonkers on the narrow gage line. But I just love all the other trains you showed
With Lawrie it's a case of "I want that tractor or maybe that one". Getting the feeling that Ash may end up going the same way with narrow gauge locos.
Very much so!
@@lmm You're going to need a bigger shed.
Oh K1 🖤🖤
The fact that K2 wasnt preserved is criminal. I dont think we have any 610mm railways left in Tassie for a K class to run on (we're almost entirely 1,067mm/3"6') but even if it was preserved as a static display, id have been happy with that.
We used to have a miniature K1 replica running at a tourist railway called The Bush Mill but that closed years ago and even the replica ended up being shipped over to the UK haha. Next trip i have back there, i hope to visit both of them, you guys are very lucky to have them!
Not one that a K class would be happy on anyway haha I used to volunteer at Wee Georgie Wood, that would be the right gauge, but I don't think little K1 would appreciate that track thats definitely suited to little 6 ton Georgie.
It would have been magic to see them going past Montezuma Falls in the days of the North East Dundas Tramway. I left Tassie almost a year ago now, left the west coast a few years before that, but the few times I walked the old track into Montezuma, I would always think of K1 navigating its way through the rainforest.
AFAIK, the seven Galloping Goose railcars were specific to just the Rio Grand Southern Railroad from the 30's to 50's as a way to make the line economical to run light loads.They were very successful in that task. I'm gonna guess that the one Statfold has is a replica (still cool) as only six survived, and all but one are in Colorado, with #3 at Knott's Berry Farm in California (on a quiet weekday, they are often running it instead of one of the steam locos).
Oh really - didn't know that!
I would love to see some more tasmanian rail history on the channel. Great video!
Finally The K1. You know, someone uploaded a pic of one in a scrapyard and i think there is more then just 1 K1/2 left.
Wiki says only 2 ever built
@A watercress sandwich 565 I believe both went to the Nth East Dundas tramway in Tasmania. It was on the N/W coast in some pretty rugged terrain.
@A watercress sandwich 565 Visited the region years ago. The fact that anybody managed to build railways in that type of terrain with the equipment available at the time is amazing.
When in Tasmania K1 ran on 2’ gauge but I understand she was regauged to 597mm in Wales. Has she been regauged again back to 2’?
I thought I saw you at a couple of points on that day. It was my first visit and I had very much the same reaction (including seeing Atlas from what was once my local narrow gauge line). The only reaction to seeing 4 trains moving at once has got to be "wow"
I was about! You should have come and said hi!
WOW! Just WOW! What is astonishing is to find that these little gems of places exist. A narrow gauge steam lover's Utopia. Thanks for sharing.
Lawrie's Mechanica LOVE LOUIS SHIRLEY
That Plymouth diesel, one of two at SBR, is a really interesting machine. It was originally 3 foot gauge, and came from St Marys cement in Ontario where it brought limestone from the quarry to the cement plant. Plymouth did offer these all the way down to 23" gauge, so the narrowness isn't totally off, although to my knowledge they were rarely if ever ordered below 30" gauge. Plymouth also offered a range of much smaller locomotives that were far more popular among the "baby gauge" railways as they were called in the US, and the bigger locos like the one at Statfold, part of a model line known as the J series, were predominantly made for 2'6", 3", 3'6", and standard gauge. Yes, standard gauge, so you were 100% right about just spacing the wheels out wider. The company got their name from Plymouth Ohio, which is where their factory was located, and believe it or not they were also the originators of the Plymouth motor car company, which was purchased from them by Chrysler in the very early 1900s, leaving Fate-Root-Heath (the parent company) to focus on locomotives instead.
They are indeed very sizeable locos for narrow gauge, the 4 wheel J series is about 15 feet long, 7'3" wide, and about 9 feet tall. Available in either 4 or 6 wheel configurations, mechanical or hydraulic drive. They were fitted with a range of reliable engine makes such as Caterpillar, Cummins, and 2 stroke GM Detroit, with horsepower ranging from 180 to 325, and weights ranging from 12 tons up to 25 tons. One of the standout features of the loco is its frame, which is made out of massive slabs of torch cut steel, with really thick reinforcement welded on. They truly were built like bulldozers. The resulting chassis is virtually indestructible, and gives the locos the advantage that they carry all the weight down low making it very stable. They also have a very nice link-compensated suspension system that had a reputation for giving a "magic carpet" like ride even on relatively poor track.
I think it'd be well worth it if you can ever arrange to go back to SBR to do an episode on the Plymouths, they deserve a showcasing!
Well there's my research for if I get to review it!
That last part about meeting people who watch your videos is something that I recently started experiencing, and it made me realize just how wide of a reach youtube videos have. It is probably the best social media platform for reaching a wide audience of not only enthusiasts but regular people with a passing interest in steam railways.
I have just been rewatching this one. And had to chuckle at the part in the shed Lawire going around "I like that, I like that, I like that, oooooo I like that.
I love this railway go there every year for there Giant Miniature weekend its wonderful to be able drive round the huge area sit and watch the engines up close
I live near the Pennsylvania railroad museum and we have a huge basically train scrap yard that’s filled with trains and cars and all types of cool stuff. I believe we’re one of the biggest restorers of trains and steam on the east coast.
Oh that's really cool!
This reminds me of watching the Ivo Peters narrow gauge railways video, in particular his videos of the Isle of Man railways.
Wow! what a great video, Stunning museum, the collection of operable locomotives and all the colors.. fabulous! Thanks for sharing this!
At 12:34 that little grey industrial engine sounds like it has a chime whistle-so unusual on a UK engine!
I think I could get into narrow gauge rail, and Statfold isn't all that far away, but I'd never heard of it before.
Thanks for showing it to us!
We need to get you doing one about driving K1. It will make you a hit with the Aussie fans!
Trust me, I'm working on it!
well done Lawrie , first you break Morgan ( or do we now call him 3 fiat X19 Morgan ) .. and now Ash ' oh they built that Loco , can we build our-own at the shed ?? '
I'm working on it 😂
and yes , that garden line is beautiful ( please tell me there were Koi carp in the ponds )
Cute little Garratt, but I like the SAR behemoths more...at 214 tons on cape gauge :-) We used to race those cross country in my dad's Volkswagen Karmann Ghia back in the 60's and 70's. I believe they usually won...
Oh yes, they're mega things!
Your best video yet. Incredible collection and brilliant venue. Thoroughly enjoyable. Cheers
Thank you very much
The reason I can't go to the Statfold Barn Railway is because I am overseas in Australia. Great video guys, Loved it.
In all fairness, K1 is a tasmanian locomotive
Ah that's no excuse!
I see now why Ash was let into the LMM Crew...his vehicles fit right in
EDIT: also, just a couple observations--
1. I think the "Garden Railway" has curves tighter than my old G-scale one XD (That wren's whistle is amazing btw)
2. How...how many gauges are that at statfold again? Because that shot of the double-headed hunstlets is doing my head in looking at all the different combinations.
Also-also, the Plymouth can be regauged. they're chain drive so they're meant to basically just put whatever gauge frame you need under the body.
Oh that makes sense for the Plymouth.
It's mostly two foot there now.
Fantastic and superb filming and . As I am less able (I hate that word disabled). You made it seem as if I was there, enjoyed it immensely.......Nickatnumbernine
Really pleased to hear you enjoyed exploring the railway with us!
Really enjoyed that. Never been but now it's on the Hit list. Thanks for posting.
Beautiful locomotives. A bit smaller track width than the narrow gauge here in America. If you ever get the chance, you should check out the Durango and silverton narrow gauge railroad
I have done the Durango and Silverton, it's absolutely stunning!
Roger has changed paint colour and livery- it was in light green, Charles Matthews Ltd, Thornhill. (I have photos...and knew Roger...)
I quite like its current colours
@@lmm flic.kr/p/2jKzcNz at it's home for about 40 years. My dad is closer the Camera, with an employee of Charles Matthews Ltd. on the offside. Dad worked for Charles Matthews Ltd for a year or so in the early 80's. Also at SBR ex Charles Matthews is "King of the Scarlets/Maid Marion" It was named Roger by Charles, in memory of his brother.
Lovely video I love this place having been their before it looks a lot quieter than I have seen it before I loved the trip around the garden.
Limited numbers at moment due to social distancing
That place look absolutely amazing i'm a tad jealous that its not local to me but my favorite engine in your video is the Lower Lea Valley Cable Tunnels.
Brilliant video guys. It’s one railway I have yet to visit but it’s definitely on the list!
Thank you very much!
Think there is a Standard Gauge Garrett at bressingham. Dread to think the cost in getting her running again but would be amazing to see at all the different Norfolk and Suffolk preserved lines
They are talking about doing William Francis. Problem is it's just a big industrial.
It's too big for most small railways, and not meant to do the distance of the larger ones.
@@lmm wasn't aware of the limits in that regard. Thanks for the info!
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL.
LOVE THE VIDS.🥰..
KEEP'EM COMING.🥰..
RICH(UK).🥰🥰🥰.!.
We'll do our best!
What a great video, have seen others from the day but the commentary makes it better. I know you really went for the steam but I was surprised you didn't make comments on Burton and Ashby Light Railway #14 which was of course originally powered from an overhead wire, but has now been converted to battery operation since coming to Statfold from Detroit
It also had a gauge change when it went to Detroit, from 3ft 6 in to 900mm.
Here is a picture of it in service during the 1920s
www.sct61.org.uk/bo14a
We thought about it, but felt like we couldn't fit info on everything in!
Thought I spotted you at the railway. I am a volunteer guard there
Absolutely epic we have absolutely nothing like this at all in NZ so I'm totally jealous.
Lawrie has a new train mate! Looks like Matt is off the hook! 😂. Seriously if I ever make it to the UK that will have to be a must stop place to visit! 🚂
It's well worth it for one of their big events
"The Garratt is huge". People from Australia, india and South Africa be like, "awww its a tiny baby Garratt" 😂😂
It's massive in the two foot! Though we do have some larger two foot ones.
Nothing compared to the standard gauge though
@@lmm i guessing in britain they are more built for passenger while in SA, Aus and India they are built for heavy frieght.
@@darylatkinson8802 Naw, they were built for heavy goods. This K1 worked on a slightly mountainous railway(i think).
Pretty sure the engine in the middle is saccharine undergoing an overhaul, she used to work at Alford Valley Railway until early 2000’s. A 1912 Fowler
That's it
With the car air con turning the footwell into a spa, all that will be is clogged air con evaporator drains. Depending on the car, you should only need to blow them out with compressed air.
Hope it helps.
Thats the largest garden railway I've ever seen!
Brilliant isn't it
Great stuff ! Thanks lads.
You're welcome!
The roundhouse is really awesome
I was there 2 weekends ago for the road and rail event with our 3 inch burrell. I am lucky as we only live 10 mins dow the road.
Super place to be close to!
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏼
You're welcome!
That blue mallet was build in verry near where i live cool to see a german engine in england
There are quite a few!
I'm sure there is a K1 on the Welsh Highland railway too.
Nope, it was at WHR, now at statfold
@@lmm in that case. I've ridden behind that on the WHR lol
Great video, great museum!! You seem to have all the fun stuff there in England. This video is almost enough to make an old man travel across the pond from the colonies (USA) for a look. Questions, I have questions.
The K-1 seem an odd design, is that a water tank out in front of the boiler?
What fuel is used in the smaller engines? Some show dark smoke, coal, but some seem to have no place for coals and show white smoke.
Does it really take two locomotives to pull or push/pull these few cars?
It is a shame that the little railway crane at the entry to the park is not operational.
It mush have been really tough that you could not step up to the footplate and operate some of the engines.
Thank you and keep up the good work!!!
It's a super collection.
We've got a lot of very good stuff here - well worth a visit.
Yes, that's right for the Garratt. Large boiler effectively supplying two conventional locomotives, and as each Power Bogie can pivot it can fit round tight curves.
Coal is used on everything.
It's just a matter of how much coal is on the fire / how hard the engine is working that changes the colour of the smoke.
No, not at all, but it allows more engines out for people to see.
It was, but hopefully it'll happen!
I like that comment! "The only way to make a small fortune with a steam engine is to start with a large fortune"
i know that in Knott's berry farm have 2 Goose trains and that is theme parc and it does lovely. i saw on other youtubers.
I've seen 4 of Rio Grande Southern's Galloping Geese, 3 are at the railroad museum in Golden Colorado, and I forget if Knott's has 1 or 2 Geese but I saw one of them while riding their steam trains
Oh I've been there
@@lmm awsome
@@Trainguyrom that is great :)
@@lmm check this couple with there geese models ua-cam.com/video/3SDttMvn0cY/v-deo.html i do watch them every week
The North Bay Railway in Scarborough is a 2ft inch gauge railway that has a new build bagnall Georgian built in the year 2016
North bay is 21 inch gauge
@@SDE1994 it is 2ft or there about as 24 inches equal 2ft so it's 21inches which is closer to begin 2ft anyway
russian 5ft gauge might as well be called standard, its only 3 and a half inches out
That Plymouth shunter just a tad overkill at 2ft
Ridden behind K1 on the welsh highland railway with a diesel helping it
Lawrie I live on the line that harrogate did run on the harrogate gas works railway before it was pulled up
must visit next year if covid disappears, looks a amazing place. I am suprised you didn't bump into Jenny Kirk as she was there visiting statfold
Maybe she was there on a different day?
It's a magnificent collection, well worth a visit.
Stalfold barn railway have Indonesian steam trains
They have engines from all over the world
I want a stocked roundhouse like that someday!
Ditto!
That K1 I believe came from here in Australia , Which is also the reason I havent been to Statfold ... Im on the other side of the world !
Ah that's no excuse 😂
Being from the same countru from where K1 originally was used, I am sure to say it needs a MUCH less squeakier whistle
I guess it's what they had available for it?
@@lmm yeah, might need a bit of work done to it
the blue tractor probably last ran at Armley Mills
Thanks for the info!
Oh wow, that sragi no. 14 is from my country indonesia. It used to works at sragi sugar mill here in java. If im correct that engine was built by orenstein & koppel in early 1900. That djatibarang also came from here. She used to work at jatibarang sugar mill in central java. She was one of the smallest mallet locomotive in existence. Oh and also that pakis baru is came from here. Glad to see them in such immaculate shape.
They are very looked over and appreciated by thousands of people yearly!
i wonder how much braking power all the trains combined have
I remember when the k1 use to be on the WHR in it white livery
as nice as K1 looks sadly i have become desensitized to Garratts a bit. There are, i think, 3 operational garratts in Australia with another undergoing restoration and a number of others static in museums, all bigger than K1, although she was an Australian engine too, having been built for use in Tasmania. If you ever get down here to Australia I think you would have a great time
I think we've got 6 or 7 over here that run, or are just about to come back into traffic!
I want to go there badly. Although it is quite far away. Have you seen the Sandy Lakes coach they have there? Also a nice P3 horn on that Plymouth.. Vulcans are better.
was great to chat to you :)
Iv modelled that loco :)
19:46 I swear that engine (Jurassic) lives on the Bala Lake Railway in North Wales
That's a different one at Bala, Triassic
Kris Douglas oh yeah! 😅 I thought she looked a bit cleaner! Ha ha
i wish i'd decided to volunteer that day! Ah sods law i guess, might catch you at another time maybe.
We'll be back!
@@lmm i'll keep an eye out then! Giant miniature weekend is a good one.
Land Rover Discovery, I see you too are a man of culture
This one isn't cultured at all
@@lmm no neither is mine, currently sat on my drive rotting away, mines a D1 though so I dont have all the electrical issues a D2 has
35:11 the brown engine is saacherine
Yep!
how many ways can you articulate.....WOWWWWW :)
Neat
Isn't it just
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels remember me I met you next to mines de aller
wow
Great thing!
47:59 I spot Lawrie filming from the train
21:42 i belive that rusted loco is a kerr stuart 0-4-0 electric loco
Oh is it?
@@lmm im not to sure.....
You should go when traction engines come on gala
22:05 Rail Bus by the United States Motor Corporation, Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Noice!
Question, When there are dual/multiple locomotives on one end or one each on both ends, how do we know which one is putting more effort or helping the other? John BC, Canada
On trains like shown in the video they're both just working gently as the train doesn't need two engines.
Were Plymouth's made in Plymouth. I love carriages here and the gorgeous himslets.
The Plymouth locomotive seen here was built in the United States by Plymouth Locomotive Works, in Plymouth, Ohio, USA.
im sertain the ALR -abbey light railway once was were kirkstal abbbey was and is dissued now !
I would love to go there
curious why they never adopted the safer and superior usa knuckles to connect cars instead of the pushers and chain hoops