Looks like motorbike .The surron needs to up its game now as advanced parts are made ....iv pedaled over 2000 miles on my engwe ep-2 pro 750w and no issues❤️🏴
Have watched all his vids before he even made vids lol very knowledgeable and now has an ebike rental service with all these bikes and the fact he knows how to mod them is the cherry....he keeps going he will grow as these emotors keep growing ❤️🏴
Thats your opinion .I love his videos. but you can't make people hit the like button. I do on every video I watch on UA-cam cause I'm not a dick people are lazy.
I like every video I watch then I know I watched it cause I'm on here so much ill end up watching Same stuff over so I like it then I know I watched it plus it helps creators
Good job on your video, How does this bike compare to the Talaria Sting? Wondering about the front fork quality? Do you think this would be good for technical type terrain ? Thank you..Bob
Hey Jack off topic of the video but figured you’d know but I’m here in Florida in boca raton for vacation until the 19th any recommendations on fishing spots. About 40 minutes from your shop. We were going to rent a boat sometime this week also any cool spots to check out feel free to respond to this thanks dude!
while this thing is interesting ill stick w my 450 sumo. i couldnt imagine its gonna be easy getting parts for these if something breaks. the range doesnt seem to be very good neither. i wonder if you can put a set of pedals on this thing like they do on surrons.
I think that if you upgrade the controller and go to a 96v battery that thing would be an animal. It already claims 12.5KW with 96v you probably looking at 15 to 16kw easy in rocket mode, 12.5 in rabbit, and 8.5 in tortoise. You most likely could then play with chain wheel sizes to get a bit more topend speed out of it; more in the realm of 65mph vs. 45mph. If it is using actual motorcycle triple clamps the ability to customize the suspension for more MX style riding shouldn't be too far fetched either. Could be quite the beastie a bit of an MX track day sleeper. Is it worth spending that much to build is the question? Probably have close to 11k in it by then but it would still be out performing a 12k Surron and be a feather weight compared to the likes of an Alta or Varg.
Taking a risk with Apollo a lot of issues and bad company management claims to be from Aussie land but it's traced to china . Had an Apollo bike years ago frame broke in half just going off a curb 👎
You know we've all busted our asses and some sand🤣🤣 you know why it ain't bad at all for what it is man it seems like the throttles pretty controllable and you know upgrades it would be a Super Freak have a great one man💪🏽💪🏽💚😎👊🏼🗯💥👍🏼👍🏼
It's a good thing I made a quick video scan. I though this video is about the bike specially how it performs. But you attached the cam to your body and what we will be watching is where your going not the bike.. Someone should be taking the video and do a panning or use a drone.
Theres a point u should try getting emoped there cool look a bit like old vespa the one i was looking at the company was in Edinburgh 🏴....NIU Edinburgh Pure Electric Moped.......£2999-£6000
Riding in a giant ash tray isn't helping anyone realize the performance of the bike. Just rip it on some grass and hard packed trails. Your wide-angle is already taking away speed and this footage looks like your crawling. Certainly NOT bringing Surron pilots over fer sure.
Lol, Sorry bro, but watchin a beginner ride a $6,000 elect bike does nothing for a potential buyer. Need to put it to the test on a track or someone who can actually ride one and show it capabilities.
Really don't understand this niche market when compared to the gas equivalent(aka mini or kids dirtbikes when it comes to price) still can't ride it on the street, as anything other than a bicycle. More and more electronic non pedaling bikes are being banned in more and more places, or limited by speed(which WILL eventually integrate into the controllers). I'm not saying they aren't cool af, and I wouldn't rip the snot out of one... But. As a recreational vehicle, commuter, off roader, it's outperformed by many... Curious what was put into ur worlds fastest surron(on top of MSRP). With the equal cost put on a equivalent base cost(MSRP) gasser, what the top speeds would be. Performed how quickly together, how many times before the gas motor ran out of gas, VS the electrics fully charged, to the point of not being able to keep up with competition (which we saw in Ruddy's old video)
Not to mention durability when actually being used as "intended".... Ruddy's bike was/has been broken for eternity... buying kawasaki parts is easy as **ck. 1 Honda 2 Kawa and 1 Husqvarna qualified dealers within 30m of me in cow country Texas
bikes have been around for 100 years. They've evolved to a point where technology prevents progress. With electrics, the batteries are the real limiting factor. These bikes can make more power than gassers easily with better batteries on the way. They are silent, clean, lightweight, and far easier to maintain. Those are the benefits, not all out speed or power. Even though they are able to go faster and have more power. My SurRon is making over 20whp and weighs 100 lbs. that power to weight ratio is better than most gasser bikes on the market. Total cost around 7k. Brand new.
People in uk use them on road as you get road legal surron and escooters are to be legalized too for road use privately owned and you can use emoped on uk roads was thinking of buying one 🏴
Still keen to see some 34 progress! What about the Camino!? We need a update! Also ez buck $$ let's gooo!!
All n the to-do list!
Silliness aside, good to see ya Jack!
Miss the content from the shop big time!
Looks like motorbike .The surron needs to up its game now as advanced parts are made ....iv pedaled over 2000 miles on my engwe ep-2 pro 750w and no issues❤️🏴
I’m sure I saw somewhere that rocket mode was just a temporary short boost and it doesn’t actually stay in that mode it reverts back to rabbit
Like a czm drill one. Only problem I wouldn’t street ride like the Surron which makes it unique. Nice vid
Weird running across a "Surron" video from Jack! Had a Zero MX a few years back. Been looking for a replacement to ride to my flying spots.
jack have you seen the razor MX upgrades, Extreme 11,000W Razor Kits putting big power into tiny frame
Baffles me how the video has 1.1k veiws yet less than 100 likes, c'mon people what more do you want. Jack's videos are sick 🔥
Some of his videos are fire
Have watched all his vids before he even made vids lol very knowledgeable and now has an ebike rental service with all these bikes and the fact he knows how to mod them is the cherry....he keeps going he will grow as these emotors keep growing ❤️🏴
Thats your opinion .I love his videos. but you can't make people hit the like button. I do on every video I watch on UA-cam cause I'm not a dick people are lazy.
It's like 1st gear on an 80s 80cc two stroke but way slower.
I like every video I watch then I know I watched it cause I'm on here so much ill end up watching Same stuff over so I like it then I know I watched it plus it helps creators
Is that a heli pad in your yard?? Dope af
Good job on your video,
How does this bike compare to the Talaria Sting?
Wondering about the front fork quality?
Do you think this would be good for technical type terrain ?
Thank you..Bob
jack these videos are sick keep it up
Awesome looking bike and it's plenty quick what is it's top speed 😎
Great review, cool bike
Hey Jack! Need to find the weak link that prevents the sustainable 12kw. Motor or battery? Nice looking bike though.
Hey Jack off topic of the video but figured you’d know but I’m here in Florida in boca raton for vacation until the 19th any recommendations on fishing spots. About 40 minutes from your shop. We were going to rent a boat sometime this week also any cool spots to check out feel free to respond to this thanks dude!
So. How do you get the bike?
That thing looks siccccc
Jack, any news on the controller upgrade several of us have ordered for our AR X-Class????Warm weather is getting here fast.
Waiting on the order to ship
@@JackCecil Thanks for the heads up.
Very cool but where is that dyno ???
Coming soon
Good work jack
I need to buy one for a review, where can I get one
while this thing is interesting ill stick w my 450 sumo. i couldnt imagine its gonna be easy getting parts for these if something breaks. the range doesnt seem to be very good neither. i wonder if you can put a set of pedals on this thing like they do on surrons.
What's its top speed
I think that if you upgrade the controller and go to a 96v battery that thing would be an animal. It already claims 12.5KW with 96v you probably looking at 15 to 16kw easy in rocket mode, 12.5 in rabbit, and 8.5 in tortoise. You most likely could then play with chain wheel sizes to get a bit more topend speed out of it; more in the realm of 65mph vs. 45mph. If it is using actual motorcycle triple clamps the ability to customize the suspension for more MX style riding shouldn't be too far fetched either. Could be quite the beastie a bit of an MX track day sleeper. Is it worth spending that much to build is the question? Probably have close to 11k in it by then but it would still be out performing a 12k Surron and be a feather weight compared to the likes of an Alta or Varg.
Hope you tried it..
Taking a risk with Apollo a lot of issues and bad company management claims to be from Aussie land but it's traced to china .
Had an Apollo bike years ago frame broke in half just going off a curb 👎
better than surron ULTRA bee ?
what is the ballpark $US MSRP for this new bike?
Where can I buy one ☝️
Man $6500 😬 I’m saving up for a drift build lol.
They'll be around 5500.
You know we've all busted our asses and some sand🤣🤣 you know why it ain't bad at all for what it is man it seems like the throttles pretty controllable and you know upgrades it would be a Super Freak have a great one man💪🏽💪🏽💚😎👊🏼🗯💥👍🏼👍🏼
Qs 138 90h motor?
It's a good thing I made a quick video scan. I though this video is about the bike specially how it performs. But you attached the cam to your body and what we will be watching is where your going not the bike.. Someone should be taking the video and do a panning or use a drone.
Theres a point u should try getting emoped there cool look a bit like old vespa the one i was looking at the company was in Edinburgh 🏴....NIU Edinburgh Pure Electric Moped.......£2999-£6000
Have any idea when they will be available to purchase?
Not yet. I hope to know soon
Has to be 4k & under to kill a surron
Even the little SurRons are 4500.00 plus shipping and less than half the power! This bike destroys a SurRon in every way. Period.
Look into what a surron costs there's literally nothing about one that is better in any aspect
RFN Ares Rally Pro's top speed is 45 mph. It killed SurRon in pricing of 6 grand and almost 50 pound heavier than a Sur ron. lol
@@Hunter_Heart it's speed limited. I own the fastest SurRon in the world and can tell you a stock one is nothing compared to this bad boy.
@@JackCecil So, can it be unlocked by cutting a wire or software? How fast is it after unlocked?
You and rudnik good?
Jack is team tommy and Rudnick didn’t like that
stark varg
It didn’t like the soft sand. Really bogged down
Because in sand you should be back over the rear wheel. The rear was too light, so it was spinning and front too heavy, so it was nosediving.
I'm not an off-roader lol. I just didn't want a surprise wheelie
It def didn't bog at all.
Can I suggest wearing a pair of moto boots? I would hate to see you mess up a leg/foot.
how much $$$$$ ?
5k
Who is selling this bike in the USA? Has to be around $3500
Nobody right now
New to the market. They aren't available yet.
I just had a shipment show up but I am selling them for $6k I am in California
Only 965 Euro in Europa
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jus be careful around there. Horse people can be the ultimate Karens. Like atomic karen status. Legit avoid them like the plague.
My 50cc pit bike throws a bigger roost then that how pathic
My 70cc scooter makes 40hp. How about your pit bike?
What ever a stock xr 50 makes so probs about 3.6 hahaha that's why that eletric bike is not impressive at all
@@1994maroz28 I think you are way off...we have 5 pitbikes and I'm pretty sure this will woop any of them in rocket mode?
These Apollos are way better than Surons'..
Then buy an Apollo made bike when it breaks good luck you will get the run around absolutely no support
whaaaat? when are going to review it on an ACTUAL TRAIL? Flat grass and sand doesn't count
I live in Florida. Sand and grass IS our trail system.
Riding in a giant ash tray isn't helping anyone realize the performance of the bike. Just rip it on some grass and hard packed trails. Your wide-angle is already taking away speed and this footage looks like your crawling. Certainly NOT bringing Surron pilots over fer sure.
Buy a real motorcycle, this is not going to ever be close.
Lol, Sorry bro, but watchin a beginner ride a $6,000 elect bike does nothing for a potential buyer. Need to put it to the test on a track or someone who can actually ride one and show it capabilities.
You ride that thing like your scared of it in fact you are scared........
Really don't understand this niche market when compared to the gas equivalent(aka mini or kids dirtbikes when it comes to price) still can't ride it on the street, as anything other than a bicycle. More and more electronic non pedaling bikes are being banned in more and more places, or limited by speed(which WILL eventually integrate into the controllers).
I'm not saying they aren't cool af, and I wouldn't rip the snot out of one...
But. As a recreational vehicle, commuter, off roader, it's outperformed by many...
Curious what was put into ur worlds fastest surron(on top of MSRP). With the equal cost put on a equivalent base cost(MSRP) gasser, what the top speeds would be. Performed how quickly together, how many times before the gas motor ran out of gas, VS the electrics fully charged, to the point of not being able to keep up with competition (which we saw in Ruddy's old video)
Not to mention durability when actually being used as "intended"....
Ruddy's bike was/has been broken for eternity... buying kawasaki parts is easy as **ck. 1 Honda 2 Kawa and 1 Husqvarna qualified dealers within 30m of me in cow country Texas
bikes have been around for 100 years. They've evolved to a point where technology prevents progress.
With electrics, the batteries are the real limiting factor. These bikes can make more power than gassers easily with better batteries on the way. They are silent, clean, lightweight, and far easier to maintain. Those are the benefits, not all out speed or power. Even though they are able to go faster and have more power.
My SurRon is making over 20whp and weighs 100 lbs. that power to weight ratio is better than most gasser bikes on the market. Total cost around 7k. Brand new.
People in uk use them on road as you get road legal surron and escooters are to be legalized too for road use privately owned and you can use emoped on uk roads was thinking of buying one 🏴