SurRon Killer | Apollo RFN | Dyno | EMX Shop Light kit

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  • Опубліковано 28 лют 2023
  • Baseline Dyno testing of the Apollo RFN bike. We also test out and install the Emx-Shop street legal light kit!
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    horsepower logic
    587 105th ave n
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    royal palm beach, FL 33411
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  • @nathanwilliam1922
    @nathanwilliam1922 Рік тому +8

    Let’s get Jack to 100k people. No one else on UA-cam has a dyno for bikes. Period!!!

  • @e-mxshop3459
    @e-mxshop3459 Рік тому +4

    The way it lights up the bike🤯 The white plastics look awesome

  • @DavisJDaniel
    @DavisJDaniel Рік тому +2

    love the scooter/ ev content. the old 2 stroke videos were always killer. thank you for making killer content. love you brother

  • @AlphaEngineer2022
    @AlphaEngineer2022 Рік тому +1

    Would love to see a tear down with the plastics all taken off 😊

  • @eMotoAZ
    @eMotoAZ 5 місяців тому

    If you hold the power button down on the headlight long enough you get a daytime running light too

  • @ubroberts5541
    @ubroberts5541 8 місяців тому

    The light kit is nice.

  • @egroegartfart
    @egroegartfart Рік тому +2

    Hey Jack. These just released for sale last week in great Britain. And they said it will be here in the U.S. soon. Do you know any dealers here that are going to carry it or maybe we will have to order it online? I'm excited . Can't wait.

  • @TeeOna2Stroke
    @TeeOna2Stroke Рік тому +1

    I'm into it a little.

  • @danielloustaunau467
    @danielloustaunau467 Рік тому

    You might be able to get plates for it they pitbikes that are street legal like a 110 cc with plates in phx. That would be a sick moto .

  • @babar69110
    @babar69110 9 місяців тому

    great job

  • @jeffmcclain
    @jeffmcclain 9 місяців тому

    Wanted to see what torque it put out too. Should be ~300nm MAX at wheel (I get closer to 260nm with the 13/58 combo sprocket in theory, but I think production should come with 11/58?) with a 58nm motor torque output max...

  • @user-go4ve4un1g
    @user-go4ve4un1g Рік тому

    Battery is 20s 7p using Lg M50LT cells they will have to discharge over 20a per group to produce 12.5kw

  • @SniperHDGaming.
    @SniperHDGaming. 10 місяців тому +1

    Does this kit from emx shop come with a headlight or no?

  • @luclolo
    @luclolo 2 місяці тому

    hi I would like to know how you installed the lights I don't see 12 volts I have the same in black

  • @douglasyoung3992
    @douglasyoung3992 11 місяців тому

    The rfn motor stator will likely not spin to the rpm of smaller diameter motors, so less top speed more torque.

  • @MRGOLD99.999
    @MRGOLD99.999 Рік тому +1

    So when will these put out for sale?

  • @ashleyzou3603
    @ashleyzou3603 Рік тому +2

    12.5Kw is the peak power of battery can reach. While the peak power of battery will loss when it transfer to controller- Motor- chain- rear wheel- tires deformation, then we get the rear wheel peak power 7.5Kw as video shows.
    Also the tire pressure higher or low, Tire type (off road tire and city tire) also will affect the rear wheel peak power. City tire on same bike will be higher than off-raod tire.

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому

      I understand that, but the marketing indicates the same style of rating as other bikes which would lead me to believe that power is measured as output and not potential.

    • @viko2812
      @viko2812 Рік тому

      @@JackCecil Yes, but if you buying a 100 HP car, manufacturer also saying about engine power, not the power that delivered to wheals after transmission. No? (But for sure effectivity of BLDC not 100%, but someway in range of 80-95%) In any case Thank You for showing us difference between power (V*A) at BMS and power that you actually receiving from the wheal. probably that is common mistake (tradition) in DIY bikes to measure power of the bike using power that measured by BMS.

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому

      testing the Surron showed an accurate 5kw of power as advertised. most bikes I test are very close to rated output. this test shows departure from normal expectations, but I think its well with the hardwares ability to exceed it. I just need access to the programming software.

    • @ashleyzou3603
      @ashleyzou3603 Рік тому +1

      @@JackCecil that’s true and people is confused. The bike with light looks pretty good, and thank you to let us know the rear wheel peak power

    • @backcountyrpilot
      @backcountyrpilot Рік тому +1

      You need a street tire for a wheel dyno.

  • @user-nt3io1mu3p
    @user-nt3io1mu3p Рік тому

    Καλησπέρα φίλε μου. Θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω το εξής:
    Ο ήχος που βγάζει πόσα ντεσιμπέλ είναι. Είναι δυνατός ήχος όπως σε κανονική Εντουρο;;;;;;

  • @luclolo
    @luclolo 2 місяці тому

    salut j'aimerais savoir comment vous avez installer les lumières je ne vois pas de 12 volts j'ai le même en noire

  • @mikemedeiros5458
    @mikemedeiros5458 Рік тому +1

    It’d be cool if it had a foot beak also

  • @gmcnamee01
    @gmcnamee01 Рік тому

    Jack, have you got a link to the lighting kit?

  • @gtifury310
    @gtifury310 Рік тому

    Nice FD

  • @PUGETSOUNDMOTORSPORTS
    @PUGETSOUNDMOTORSPORTS Рік тому

    I got an aftermarket battery for this lined up. Let's talk ⚡

  • @taddaa83
    @taddaa83 Рік тому

    There is a higher output light like the one in your video. I believe it's 12000 lumens I use it for my e bike.

  • @clifforddeschaine6346
    @clifforddeschaine6346 Рік тому

    Wtf? That is bad ass!my mongoose ebike goes 43 ? But i ' m in love ...

  • @johnnymckissick2735
    @johnnymckissick2735 Рік тому

    When are these available?

  • @Shivampatel-ge3nq
    @Shivampatel-ge3nq Рік тому

    jack will you tune my moto guzzi. i’m in swfl

  • @williamturpin6746
    @williamturpin6746 Рік тому +1

    Just got this bike with the 60 second rocket mode re map...I love it..I can't find these light kits anywhere pal? Where exactly do I go online for these??

  • @maxedoutmachinemarine9172
    @maxedoutmachinemarine9172 Рік тому

    I get that it’s preproduction but almost 6 1/2 hp difference from what is claimed by the manufacturer seems like a lot to me even if you factor in drivetrain loss which should be a little to nothing, I’d really like to see them make good on their claim of 12 kW cause this thing has peaked my interest

    • @ashleyzou3603
      @ashleyzou3603 Рік тому +1

      Under this testing, the bike cannot reach peak power, the larger the load is, the max out power reach 150A , then the bike can reach.

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому +3

      I can load the bike fully using a brake. I just need the software to make adjustments in the bikes controller so I can fully test it. hopefully the next sample will have these available to me!

  • @davevanguilder6793
    @davevanguilder6793 Рік тому

    In 1975 I got 7 hp and 50 mph out of my XR 75

  • @calikid7116
    @calikid7116 Рік тому +1

    Cool bike but awesome FD 😊

  • @jmyd83
    @jmyd83 Рік тому

    👍

  • @wheelie_kel371
    @wheelie_kel371 Рік тому +1

    I wanted to buy a suron but and loving this one, where can I buy one

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому +1

      I will be offering them soon!

    • @mikewelpott8743
      @mikewelpott8743 Рік тому +1

      I am with you. Since seeing Jack's first review, I have been searching for information about these bikes as I am in the market (have a surron) for another. And Jack says "I will be offering them soon!", care to share what "soon" means to you? as in months and weeks? Also, what is the ballpark pricing expected to be in the US?

  • @JohnDoeC78
    @JohnDoeC78 Рік тому +1

    Jack will you be a official American distributor of all these E bikes? Maybe branch out to make mod packs/tuning, like Drift HQ but for e bikes? New branch, of HP LOGIC, E BIKE LOGIC? eHP-Logic? HP-LOGIC-E?

  • @adma20
    @adma20 Рік тому

    Any idea when it becomes available on the US market?

  • @sAINT898
    @sAINT898 Рік тому +1

    Let's see torque numbers

  • @SURRONBikes
    @SURRONBikes Рік тому

    What did a stock LBX make ?

  • @backcountyrpilot
    @backcountyrpilot Рік тому +1

    Rear Wheel Dyno testing with knobbiest is a disservice to the vendor and your audience. You’re probably reading 20%-40% low.
    FWIW, I dyno’d hundreds of 2 and 4-stroke MX bikes from 1996-2006, many for annual magazine shootouts.
    We had a generic wheel with a street tire that fit many bikes, and swapped tires when it didn’t.

  • @wheelie_kel371
    @wheelie_kel371 Рік тому

    I need one, I been asking u

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 Рік тому +1

    U still got the yellow 20b fd :0?

  • @manderson9289
    @manderson9289 Рік тому

    😀

  • @DuhWongOne
    @DuhWongOne Рік тому

    jack i inspire to be as cool as you.

  • @manasseh7
    @manasseh7 Рік тому

    Are those bikes for sale yet ?

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому

      not yet....working on getting it soon

  • @tylerschwartz4327
    @tylerschwartz4327 Рік тому

    Is the elco gone?

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому

      yes we sold it a while back.

  • @joshuam6828
    @joshuam6828 Рік тому

    I still think a surron is in its own class.

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun Рік тому

    Ewaste

  • @teardownuridol
    @teardownuridol Рік тому

    Still need atleast one rear view mirror i believe, unless they changed the law in florida!

    • @e-mxshop3459
      @e-mxshop3459 Рік тому +1

      I gave Jack a set, kind of bulky lookin unfortunately. I believe you are right though about the law

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому

      yes the kit included a mirror but for my trails and farm riding it would only get in the way. I can always mount it if im goin g on public roads though!

  • @vmcmark7578
    @vmcmark7578 Рік тому +1

    DUDE, REALLY???WTF, OVER??? Just how is the front brake tube/hose going to move up & down after you JAMMED it behind the head lamp mounting bracket? If the wheel moves 10 inches or more, the brake hose NEEDS TO MOVE THE SAME AMOUNT & I hope it doesn't hang up and apply the front brake and send you over the bars & onto your head. I think that you need to try and rotate the mounting bracket up & back towards the speedo unit so the brake hose has some freedom to move. Good luck with that & the dude making & selling the kit should have a WARNING in the directions about that so nobody hurts themselves or anyone else during the CRASH!!

  • @heenalusurf2500
    @heenalusurf2500 Рік тому

    casual rx7 fd in the background 💀

  • @lektro808
    @lektro808 Рік тому

    10hp for $5k! They can keep it

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому +2

      show me another e bike that can deliver similar?

  • @brianN9955
    @brianN9955 11 місяців тому

    Tell them to keep the price down if not then people will just buy a SURON

  • @The_Privateer
    @The_Privateer 10 місяців тому

    Eeesh, thats like 1/2 the advertised power. I can't get behind a company that lies like that.

  • @G4RY1159
    @G4RY1159 10 місяців тому

    These bikes along with ''anything similar'' are illegal on our UK roads, they are only allowed on private land etc, sucks as Id buy one no problem.

    • @robmule4647
      @robmule4647 10 місяців тому

      They do a road legal one with lights etc in the UK

    • @G4RY1159
      @G4RY1159 10 місяців тому

      @@robmule4647 Wasn't aware of that.

    • @robmule4647
      @robmule4647 10 місяців тому +1

      @@G4RY1159 there's also a road legal Talaria R for about the same price

    • @G4RY1159
      @G4RY1159 10 місяців тому

      @@robmule4647 Shall have a look, Thankyou.

  • @mrhqyangtechnic_q_emx8180
    @mrhqyangtechnic_q_emx8180 Рік тому

    no match against the Ultrabee

    • @mikewelpott8743
      @mikewelpott8743 Рік тому

      Well that certainly depends. First is pricing. What is the actual pricing going to be? Then there is when can you get one? In that event, you are 100% correct, no match as you cannot even get the Apollo. Then quality...I know that Surron has been making some good moves of late, and that in the Pit Bike world, Apollo was not at the top of the list of Chinese bikes that one might want to start with...

  • @biggestthreattoyourexistence

    The horse is bigger than your truck.

  • @hanathan
    @hanathan Рік тому

    apollo makes the worst and most unreliable bikes ever 😂

    • @JackCecil
      @JackCecil  Рік тому +1

      well this one is by far the nicest quality I have seen from them. I dont think its the same design style or quality at all as the cheap pit bikes.

  • @AnthSmog92
    @AnthSmog92 18 днів тому

    these bikes are 💩