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Zowie EC2-C vs Vaxee Outset AX - Full Shape Comparison
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- The EC2 and Outsex AX are very frequently compared to each other and for good reason. They both follow the same general design and feel similar in hand. My issue is that people are often too reductive in how they speak about the two shapes, so I wanted to create a more thorough comparison that I hope could further the discussion about what makes this slanted, asymmetrical design tick.
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Shape Comparison
9:57 - Recommendations
This is probably the best shape comparison that I have ever seen. It is extraordinarily in depth and I am shocked that you aren't getting 100k+ views. Absolutely radiating passion to.
i literally searched outset ax vs ec2c before this vid come out and couldn't find any in depth comparison, and then you posted this banger
i appreciate your videos because how detailed they are, keep up the good work
Solid video. You explain everything really good. Nobody else shows this much detail about mouse shape/grip. Keep up the good work.
The video everybody's been waiting since the Outset AX released, thank you good sir!
Your really underrated.. very good at helping me decide if a shape is for me or not.
Next level comparison. Really in depth. Keep them coming. 👍
This comparison is so good and detailed that now I know the Outset AX is the mouse I need. I hope you will compare the S2-C and the NP-01.
Shout out to the RJN "it's the same shape plus or minus a couple mm" review.
RJN got some weird takes on stuff man
@@Puddelito i lost his passion....
The ec2-c matches my 19,5 cm / 11 cm hands perfect. I fell in love with the zowie ec2-c and would highly recommend it! ✌️
Even tho I can probably main/endgame the outset, my main problem is it feels too chonky and in my hand sometimes making it uncomfortable, left side makes my thumb ache quite a bit, and the high button height just feels awkward for me when trying to be precise, it’s damn stable tho ngl haha ec2 might be better for me. But I do agree 100% is a safer and more universal shape.
super in depth. nice vid
amazing video
I am stuck between Razer Orochi v2, EC3-C and OUTSET AX. In fact, Razer feels really comfortable and flexible, but sometimes I find it unstable because it is too small. What would you recommend me? 21-11 cm hand and relax claw-fingertip type grip.
Hey krafty, congrats on another great review!
I think you can help with this. I have the exact same hand size and I hybrid claw grip the mice with the left side of my palm touching the mouse in ergo mice. I have been maining gpx for 2 months but it isn't for me because I don't control ambi as good as ergo(the best control I got with a mouse was with xtrfy m4, but holes are to slippery for me). I'm looking for a new ergo and I'm debating between outset AX and ec3-c or even the ec2-c since I like the m4. Which one do you think will feet me better based on your experience with those mice? I'm a professional warzone player, so mobility, control and consistency in performance is something that I look for mainly
I think that the outset would be your best option. Its bulbous hump and right side flare allow you to make a good amount of hand contact and feel locked in and stable. It's still balanced enough that you should feel flexible with it and feel not as restricted as its beefy size would suggest. I personally aim better with the ec3 because of the shorter button height and thinner grip width, but I don't think that it would work out as well for your use case. It's so short that it'll be hard to get a good amount of palm contact without placing your fingers very far forward or curling them quite aggressively. If these types of grips work for you, then it's a great shape, but otherwise, it'll feel like it works to sacrifice hand contact for the maximum mobility possible on an ergo. The ec2 would feel the most stable out of the three and get you a nice feeling of palm contact, but it's likely that you would feel restricted by the shape in a faster-paced game that utilizes more vertical mouse movements.
@@KraftyCraftKraf thank you so much for another detailed information! Keep grinding, great job 🔥🙏
Ergo mice seem to be the most comfortable mice to use, but which ergo mice (excluding the NP01S) that you tried has the most precision and does it still retain top tier comfort? Maybe EC3C?
Yeah the EC3-C has a good feeling of precision for an ergo. It has the lower buttons and thinner grip of the ec2 but it is super short so you can still freely use your fingers to aim. It's a really solid mouse.
@@KraftyCraftKraf How does the EC3C fair compare to the S2C in terms of precision for you?
@@bespoke555 can’t speak for him but I am currently expirementing with those, I’ve used the s2 since it came out and recently bought the s2C and ec3c and the ec3c made my precision even better, because of the extra surface contact for my ring and pinky finger. Went from 1180 on 1w6ts to 1300 1w6ts small (41cm) in a single day
I like the S2-C more in that regard. I feel I aim too calmly on slanted ergos in general, so a more aggressive claw shape like the S2 feels like I have more control and can be more precise.
@@KraftyCraftKraf how does the ec3 compare to the outset? Your video is super solid, would be nice to have an ec3 vs outset comparison video as well.
i have ec2, should i upgrade to vaxee?
I dont know ideally english) who won in the end?
I like the outset more personally and I think it’s more universally appealing.
Do you know how to sand glossy outset ax to be it like matte version? Because the glossy is too sticky :(
Get a scotch brite sponge and evenly scrub the coating down with the green side until you like how it feels. This is what I did to my np-01g and I like how it feels. It isn't the same as the matte coating because the vaxee matte finish has a pretty unique feel, but it won't feel sticky like the glossy and still retain a good grip, especially for sweaty hands.
@@KraftyCraftKraf superb, can i use high density grit?
Yeah that should be fine. I just used a sponge because its what I had on hand but sandpaper would be even better. Just be careful not to go too deep and start digging into the plastic.
What is your main top performing mouse atm?
The S2-C has been really good to me and I've mained it since release. I feel very consistent on the shape and my aim is well-rounded with no issues at all. It's been feeling like a reliable workhorse for me which I enjoy a lot. Recently, I have been using the gpx more than I usually do to test out pads and get a change of pace from the S2, and it's felt really good in this time. I'm still an S2 main, but the gpx has been trying its hardest to win me back.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Have you tried the ZA13?
No, not yet, but I'll be picking up and reviewing the ZA13-C on release. Very excited for that to finally come out.
@@KraftyCraftKraf what's your cm/360?
I use anywhere from 40-25cm / 360. I use different settings based on the game or what I need to do and I adapt to a new sens pretty quickly so I end up changing it frequently. 32cm is my most comfortable, neutral feeling sens, though, so it's what I end up using the most.
REVIEW PULSAR XLITE WIRELES AND PARABREAK MOUSEPAD PLEASE
I'm super interested in their new glass mousefeet so I'll probably pick up an xlite wireless and their feet when they release them. The parabreak seems cool too, but it has yet to release in the US so I don't know when I'll even be able to try it out.
@@KraftyCraftKraf emm okk, so i wanna ask u advice what you think the most similiar mousepad like zowie gsr/artisan xsoft/soft?
The pad that I've tried that felt the most like the gsr was the eclipse. It is way less muddy and faster overall, but the feeling is somewhat similar to a cool and dry gsr. Other pads like the yet unreleased Jupiter from Lethal and xtrfy gpz1 seem pretty similar aswell, but I haven't tried those pads yet.
@@KraftyCraftKraf okk thank you very much bro i appreciated it
slow down man, canrt undersand what you are saying