2018 Ford Mustang GT MagneRide Suspension Explained - How Adaptive Suspension Works
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In this video, Justin will teach you everything you need to know about the MagneRide suspension now offered for the 2018 Ford Mustang & Mustang GT. Are you a fan of Ford adopting this technology?
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What do you think? Is the MagneRide worth the upgrade $$$?
Sure! Money well spent!
Can it adjust each wheel independently? Or is it stuck with a single setting for all or maybe different settings front/back?
Brice- Unfortunately that isn't possible to my knowledge. -Justin
Mine has it :)
Brice each wheel is independent as far as when it does it's thing, however as the driver you cannot adjust each wheel.
I first had the Magnetic ride system on my 2010 ZR1, it really is the best of both worlds. Even in touring mode.If you hit the brakes hard the MRS goes from tour to track instantly to control the car in an emergency. I now have 3 cars with it and I love it.
I owned a base 2017 GT 6-spd and it did okay in the curves here in the Arkansas Ozarks. I now have a 2020 GT 6-spd with Magneride and it's a huge upgrade. Even in 'normal' mode she handles. Sport and Track are a whole other level. Thing to remember is the system takes account for speed and steering wheel inputs. The faster you go the firmer it gets. On the interstate in comfort it just glides along nicely. Very much worth the price. No more money that a good set of adjustable coilovers. A good option if you daily drive during the week and have the opportunity to do spots driving on the weekend.
Ok the MagneRide is cool but the 2018 Mustang is not at all about MagneRide..
It's new 5.0 is 5/5,
I mean I expected some difference but after driving the new Mustang GT PP1 back to back with a Camaro S S 1LE, I am sold for the Stang..I mean yeah the SS has more torque and handles a wee bit better,but somehow the high revving more linear natural of new 5.0 is so damn satisfying. Most American V8s are dope post 6500 rpm..specially GM 6.2 and Dodge but the Ford's 5.0 is a breath of fresh air..it keeps on revving till 7200 and yet keeps on pulling..GM and Dodge feel like strained post 6000 rpm, the last 1000 rpm Ford has is so damn exciting...
I liked this even better than GT350 engine which itself is superb but lacks torque below 4000 rpm, new 5.0 feels torquey post 3000 and yet makes power throughout the wide power band.
Briane Howland
I still dont understand what you under from my post.the GTs 5.0 has a very linear curve, the GM engine makes torque quickly post 2000 rpm carries it strong till 6000 and then starts fading..
The 5.0 has its peak push coming at around 4000 rpm and carries it till nearly 7000 rpm, the last 1000 rpm of Mustang is what I loved the most, usually even the last gen 5.0 didnt make any meaningful power post 6200-6300 rpm, the new 5.0 does pull even past 6500 to nearly 7000, and yet it still revs to 7400 but last 400 rpm is a dip not as sweet as say a Porache flat 6 in top end power,
Thats what I said an unusual character to an Americam V8,
I am too not saying thr GM or Dodge V8 is bad, they too are damn cool but somehow I felt like Mustangs new 5.0 has the balance of what a GM and a European V8 like Aston Martin V8 has to offer.
I will agree that this video is more about Magne Ride..but I just said my opinion about the new 5.0
I think the reason why it feels better is because the advantage of having a high revving V8 that still produces a good amount of torque is that you can have a really aggressive final drive without having to shift as often.
The Mustang GT with PP2 is superior to the GT350 in several ways (0-60 with automatic is faster; suspension and brakes are equal, low-end torque is much higher, and the digital instrument cluster (only on GT) is waycool.) Not only that, you can freaking ORDER a Mustang GT whereas you have to find a dealer with the GT350 in the color you want and then approach him and say, "take me, I'm yours ..."
May I ask what is actually more comfortable - magne ride at normal setting or a non magne Mustang? Thank you guys for an answer
Honestly, the stock suspension handles extremely well. I zip around curves and corners like nothing. I'm sure this is better, but considering I drive for a living, maybe I'm just fine without it.
Good to see you finally getting behind the wheel of that beast Justin , great job bro , I love my 17 s550 , wouldn't trade her for anything , but I'll admit that suspension is next level
Thanks Steve! I really love how the '18 drives- the new clutch setup, the suspension, the cluster, Ford did a bang up job with this one. Appreciate the support buddy, Happy Holidays! -Justin
AmericanMuscle.com you should drive the auto and play with drag mode. You with think that granny box is sitting still.
Absolutely worth the upgrade!
Hey guys, greetings from the UK.
I had magnaride on my ford a few years back.
There were 3 settings for the dampers, comfort, normal and sport. The shocks were filled with oil containing smal iron filings, when you change the settings electrical charge magnetises the filings to make the suspension damper (not spring) stiffer of softer. It also has the side effect when running stiffer of making the steering feel more responsive.
Expensive if it goes wrong so either buy new with warranty or make sure you check it all works on a used vehicle. I loved it....
You have no idea how stupid what you wrote is .
Iron filings eh?
Well researched .
Stop using UPS for shipping going to cost more to fix the order and piss people off to go some where else
Thank you so much for this video! I’m getting a new GT and didn’t know whether to get this option because I didn’t understand what MagnaRide was. Now I do. Thank you again! Very helpful!
Real Mustang drivers drive the wishbone lol
Nice review, Justin! Thank you...
4:00 so be it... the performance pack ride height is just about perfect anyway.
this dude knows his fluids
Great video! Finally! The 2018 Mustang ROCKS! My 2013 Mustang GT w/Track Pack...is SO OLD!....LOL
CJ Moore not really I still there 13 and 14 is new
I still love my 2013 GT with the Track Pack. But the 2018 GT looks great too! If I had to get a new GT it would be with the MagneRide. I have the Eihbach Springs and struts on my ride.
CJ Moore o
Time to put the girl down. Get the new one.
In Australia the magnaride option is $2750, and as the Aussie spec cars come with the Level One Sports Pack and digital dash as standard, it makes sense to go for the magnaride suspension setup to complete the package. As such, the car is $75k drive away Down Under. Still regarded as a performance bargain in this part of the world where we are subjected to an insidious Luxury Car Tax on many imported cars. In the case of the Mustang, it is $1753.
Thanks for the info, I'm going to a dealer soon to get some more specific prices v's options. One thing that has me worried is, from looking at the US sites, can the Auto 10 speed be optioned with the magnaride?
Looks like manual option only. Hope I'm wrong...
frontbum666 yes you are wrong
Thought I should warn people if you are considering ordering a Mustang with Magneride. I asked my dealership if there is a back order on Magneride before placing my order and was told there isn't. However it is now 8 weeks since I placed my order and they just started building it so it has to be on back order
Nice video. Thanks for sharing Justin. Owning a 2017-GT-350 I can't see myself driving another Mustang without Magna-ride. The car is so responsive & finally feels right. When you think you can't push it anymore the car laughs at you & says bring it on. Magna-ride is awesome!!
sure you can... wait till you have to fix it..
Texarmageddon $2k. Chump change
@@reptarthetrx2408 2k is fine for suspension. You should see my neighbors bill on his E class...the shop wants 9k lol
Awesome explanation!! I ordered a 2022 and had to get the Magneride.. I did take off some other stuff like security package, stripe delete, and rapid red $475 extra for the paint color,, haha!! Cheers!
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Thanks for the video, what's more comfortable?
Magnaride on regular mode.
Or without magnaride option.
I live in Canada with very bad roads, wholes and bumps everywhere. Looking for the most comfortable option, as stiff suspension will break my back.
Tarek Mikati I have some crap roads near me, I like the ride with the magna ride. It's very smooth, or you can make it really tight
Thanks for the video. Nice explanation with some driving involved.
I want to know the weight difference between a full equipped PP1 GT and a base GT. Wondering if it makes a difference
Can you swap broken magna ride shocks to normal shocks easily?
I'm definitely gunna get my stang with Magnaride. Does keeping your car in track with the magnaride suspension wear the system out faster?
That red color looks nice AF
Would love to get MagneRide but it isn't really $1695 it more like $6000 same for both Ecoboost and GT. So for $6000 dollars I would say no. If they offered it as a standalone option for $2200 or something I would say without a doubt it would be worth the upgrade. You have to get 101a package as well as performance pack not saying either one independently is a bad deal but Ford use to offer more customization on the mustang. Now you cant get a stripper model with what you want you have to get all these extras. Granted most are going to want to opt for performance pack if there getting this. Id rather they charge more for just the options you want and offer a discount when combined with packages like they used too do. Separate gripe is you cant get performance pack 2 with 10 speed auto. It is a sports car but come on it is faster with the auto why wouldn't they make that an option at least let you order the 305 wheels if nothing else.
Please how would I know if my car have magnetic ride it’s 2019 GT premium with digital dash
So how close does it come to the MagneRide setup on the GT 350/R?
Miguel Fair it's the exact same suspension.
Like the in depth vids keep it up
I so want the new gt500 in U.K.
please ford make it happen
How can you call it a $1700 option when you are forced to buy the sports package as well..... It's completely idiotic you can't have just the Magneride. They may as well just make it one package.
Ryan Frizell they basically did make it one package with the PP2.
ill never buy one new ill let my good buddies take the hit and buy a wrecked one lol ;]
You can get it in auto right?
Nick Prater can't get auto with the PP2 I believe
@@chuarh7393 seriously man? I thought they changed that shit now.
that thing sounds real good.
You have to buy the performance pack which is four grand and then pay the $1700 for the magnetic ride. Corvette you can simply order this in the base model.
I would buy a 2018/2019 for the magnaride and 10 speed Trans. But, there seems to be a lot of issues coming up with the new Mustangs with blown motors for no reason etc. This makes a 6 month old 10,000km 2018 wit Magnaride and the 10 speed would be worth more than brand spanking because someone else would have found the issue first.
Gotta test and record using a cam that records G force etc then youll see the difference in modes.
Do the 21 mustang California special have magneride
Man, now I feel bad for just getting a 2017 GT Premium. Is it that big of a difference Justin?
Brandon C. Sadly the 2018 is the mid cycle refresh, yes, it’s ok for you to feel “bad” but just wait another 4 years for the entirely new model, it’s better than an old 2018!
The tech goes all the way back to the 1996 corvette with the selective real time damping f45 option. It predated the magneride, but essentially is the same thing
I will order the MagneRide. I was told if one ProCharges a 6 speed manual it will burn thru clutches. Has the Super Charger giving you clutch or tranning issues with the 6 speed manual? I'm hoping the 2019 "Bullitt" has the better GT 350 gearbox?
Thank you for your support of the Arabic language👍🏼🌹🇰🇼
Hi Justin, I know nothing mechanical about cars except that I have always loved the Ford Mustang and will purchase one in the near future.
My question is does the Magneride makes a significant difference if the car is a convertible?
Thanks
I bet you still haven't bought one?
Think the .75" GT350 springs would work in the MagneRide GT?
Should used the g force gauge to show the difference
Can I keep my 20 inch rims n tires if I upgrade to magnaride?
Our 87 T-bird has magneride;)
Nice
What about the infamous rear wheel hop?
Does anybody have magneride, and when they drive on bumpy roads does it feel like your tires are bumping the car with noises?... been to the dealership and they pointed out my front grill was lose. still having the same issue.
Is that legal eagle?
Yes! Nerd Out!!!
How do you know the car has magneride?
Do you think the MageRide Suspension systems will make it's way to the after market? Maybe for a 2012 Mustang GT??
Michael Blanco nope, it's part of the car, it's not a separate part to to speak as far as the computers go.
Not likely because like Jeremy said it's integrated with the stability management system provided your car has one. So the ECM that manages that would manage the shocks as well. I'm pretty sure there are some aftermarket kits that will let you alter the rebound and ride height electronically but it's crude by comparison to what this does. Plus if you going for say track performance there purpose built setups that are going to easily out perform MagneRide. That's part of the reason it's not on the new ZL1 1LE Camaro, it's setup to be track focused vs. the jack of all trades normal ZL1.
GlassTopRX7 it was built with the track in mind... the truth is gm never really got working well.
If you look at the things both cars try to do the chevy version is terrible. The active exhaust, for one. Also none of the camaros really out did the gt350 in handling, the only reason it had better track times was the 100hp advantage via the supercharger.
Not executed well? The GT350R doesn't handle better than the SS 1LE in fact the SS typical post similar if not faster lap times with 70 less HP. The GT350R was on par with the last Z\28, the SS 1LE matches that without all the ride compromises.
The ZL1 1LE is considerable better better without MagneRide. They've already done head to heads with the GT with MagneRide vs SS 1LE with it and it's not close in handling.
What does the gimmicky active exhaust have to do with handling anyway? GM's approach to active exhaust is focused on more power and uses a pair of butterfly valves open the exhaust a bit. Fords focus was to quite the car down. The Mustang will always sound better than a LS\LT thanks to that odd firing order GM gave them.
GlassTopRX7 now you are just making crap up... but thats typical. Of few head to head they have done with the new gt and a camaro have all been non performance pack cars.
Camaro has still yet to win ANY overall head to head with EQUAL speced cars. They want to put super charged cars against non force induction, or a 1le vs a base. You put a fully loaded gt vs a loaded NON SUPER CHARGED camaro and it will lose. The gt350 wrecked the z28 which was it's competition.
Can you add the pp2 package to any mustang gt
whats better magnaride or coil overs
Magnaride is just an adjustable version of coil overs.
Can you just add magneride without PP2 on a 2019 Mustang GT?
Correct, you do not need PP2 in order to get magnaride on a GT. -Justin
Thanks
these shocks are a disaster, if one of them start to leak it will cost over $600 to replace. regular shocks usually cost from $100 to $200. and you don't want to change a $600 shock on old car if you planning to keep it for a long time
Hello everyone, a comment after three years. Can someone let me know what was your experience with MagneRide? How is normal mode compared with non-MangeRide cars? And have you had any issues and how much was it's replacement costs?
When I had it, I liked it a lot, definitely an incredible technology. To be able to switch from a pretty damn stiff suspension to a limo like one in a click of a button is fantastic. After 40,000, not a single issue for me.
MAGNARIDE,remote control 3 way adjustable of a cheap Delphi shock.
What does everyone think about the Roche supercharged 2018? You can pick them up for 40 grand.
T- Mac - Roush*
He kinda looks like the villain in Star Wars Battlefront 2
Who saw the fly at 3:07?
Is there any way that you guys could test a non magneride PP 18 on that same road to see what difference the magneride brings to the car? Thats the only option im on the fence with as this would be my DD and i wouldnt be taking it to the track. Thanks!
Dan Daniels get it, it makes a ton of difference. Keep in min you have to have a performance pack to get it.
With it you can change the "character" of the car with the flip of a switch.
I would hate to replace these
Can I upgrade non-MagneRide mustang to MagneRide?
It would probably involve a fair amount of work but I don't see why not. -Justin
Certainly
Hey Justin thanks for the explanation of the magnaride suspension, but I have a concern.
I will be shopping for a 2018 GT convertíble and like my old mustangs used to drive it all year round and that means in the snow too, I’m from NY. Do you think the magnaride will damage if driven in those weather conditions or will be something that will help?
Thank you
Felix Serrano it shouldn’t fair any different against the elements as the non magneride
Good review overall, but...
Driving one-handed through the turns? While trying to assess cornering capabilities? Sigh.
Matthew Arnold I hate that
I know this video is a bit old but, why doesn't your mustang have a spoiler? I thought all mustangs with the GT Performance Package had one.
this is an old reply too but there is an option called spoiler-delete so here is that :)
With this system, the car is heavier, right?
Slightly yes, but not by much. -Justin
my 2020 Mustang GT has MagneRide (or so it says on the window sticker) after a week with it, I can't tell the difference between modes.. Even getting out in park and pushing on the suspension, I don't feel a difference between modes.
I had a 2016 Corvette that had MRC, and it was very noticeable between different modes... so I don't know whats up with the Mustang?
I'm thinking mine isn't working or something? Guess I'll have to take it in.. It rides fine, but seriously not even a slight change between driver modes. (the display - digital dash - even shows the suspension icon and says its in different modes for the suspension but honestly I feel zero difference!)
(I have to be honest, I'm trying hard not to dislike my new purchase, but my Backup Camera hasn't worked since day 1, various squeaks and rattles all over the place and my suspension doesn't seem to change at all)
any update on your purchase? any hard buyers remorse ?
@@Thatguy71771 Dealership said my MagneRide is working, although I can't tell the difference at all. It's not noticably stiffer in Track mode compared to any other mode. (the MyMode display shows the shocks are changing to track, sport+, etc.)
It can be and is a fun car, but given the choice.. No, I wouldn't buy one again, it's too expensive for what you get.. considering the problems. (Yes, buyers remorse for sure!)
My car is a Fully Loaded 2020 GT 6spd Manual Transmission with every option box checked. (The sticker was $52k.)
THE GOOD:
The Car looks amazing, inside and out, just a really awesome looking car. The digital gauges are awesome, and the interior lighting is really cool. The B&O premium audio is top notch... The seats are super comfortable, and the air conditioned seats are amazing on hot summer days in CA. I have the dual mode exhaust, and hands down the exhaust note of this Mustang is the best sounding stock car I've ever owned. It just roars...
THE BAD:
The Manual transmission in the GT is straight up *garbage* , it's the worst transmission I've ever experienced. In normal driving, the transmission is fine. It goes nicely into gears without slop or play. Feels nice. Once you push the car however, the transmission fights you to go into gear (especially third). Further, when you come to a stop and put the car into neutral and sit for a second... once you put it back into 1st gear, it will load the rear end and CLUNK into gear 75% of the time. (Matt Ferah on the SmokingTire warned me of this, but I didn't listen, just to realize he was right.)
The fit and finish of the car *seems* nice, but for a $52k car the interior rattles from everywhere almost non stop! I still need to take it to the dealership for them to fix some of it, but it would be easier to tell them what doesn't rattle than what does. (Basically I'll just tell them, the steering wheel doesn't rattle, everything else does.. good luck fixing it. Headliner buzzes, rear pillars creak and rattle. Dash vents rattles, gauge cluster rattles, passenger door rattles, drivers door rattles, dash in general rattles. I could go on, but you get the picture.)
Not to mention, yeah my Mustang 5.0 engine has the Type-Writer tick. It started just after my first oil change.. sounds like metal heating up and then cooling down and you get a tick noise, except the car is running. My car as of today has 12k miles on it, and I've now done 3 oil changes. What I've noticed is that, when the oil is fresh the Tick is worse, once the oil is a little old.. it starts going away but is never silent.
CONCLUSION:
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend this car to anyone. It looks amazing inside and out, but was obviously put together with the cheapest materials and craftmanship possible. Bean-counters won the fight on this one with their Chinese manual transmission and cheap materials used throughout.. not to mention whatever issue is going on with the Coyote 5.0 engine.
@@davidcovey3001 hmm...i appreciate the detailed reply..i have a 2021 gt PP premium on order with the 10 speed auto..i had a 2015 base ecoboost so im familiar with the interior rattle...although i hope a 2021 premium model will be better in terms of quality control...plus the 10 speeds are supposed to be night and night from the 6 speed manual...anxious either way...stay safe
@@Thatguy71771 Yeah, I hope I'm just in the bad luck category and you get a great car man! Like I said, mine is also a Performance Pack with the premium fully loaded options. The Mustang looks amazing and sounds amazing until it starts rattling over slightly bumpy roads, or unless you can hear the Type-Writer/BBQ ticking (more noticeable in drive thru and garages.. something to bounce the sound off of.. but is easily heard anytime.. hopefully yours won't be like that. Mine was fine until 500 miles and I got it's first oil change.. then the noise started)
I do hear the 10spd is superior to the Manual transmission (in more ways that one), but that's not to say it doesn't also have issues. Just not as many.
I'm really not trying to dissuade you from getting the car, it's an awesome ride, it really is.. just if you get a fully loaded one like me, you're easily dropping 50g's and that's a lot of money for an engine that (might) tick, and (might) have trans issues.. and probably will eventually rattle.. lol
I will tell you this though, when I'm behind the wheel of the car the problems don't seem as bad. When the car is at full roar, the problems seem to disappear. It's only when I'm thinking about it, or just cruising and it starts to rattle when not playing music or something that I'd say it's not worth it. (or listening to it idle in a drive thru... lol)
Just my 2cents, take from it what you will.. I honestly wish you best of luck with yours if you decide to commit and get it.
Take it easy man, Good luck!
i wish theyre as easy as bolt ons.
how many people that buy the magneride will actually ever use it after the newness wears off? probably very few. also, what are replacement costs for those shocks? my mother in law had adjustable ride suspension on her E500 and one of the rear shocks was $1800 when it broke
Wtf are you talking about lol it comes with the premium GT dude nobody's going to take it off
billy heaton how to check if my car equipped with magneride?
Probably wouldn't lower it.
What if you hit a really sudden and deep pot hole? Is it able to react on time or do you really feel and hear the hit in a jarring way?
It kind of depends on the size I guess- I smaller hole it may be able to minimize the the feel but larger holes the system can only do so much before physics take over. -Justin
And of course in a few years there will be some new technology that will make you look back and think this magneride is just ok.
Much agreed I've always preferred 94-04 but 2014 is growing on me but this new gen is a train wreck.
Delphie? Really Justin?
Really. -Justin
AmericanMuscle.com Are you British? Or at least born there? Americans don’t pronounce it like that. You sure sound American!
I wish a thousand times I could have a car like that!!! I have a 08 mustang but it’s starting to have problems. Almost 200k miles. Of course I couldn’t ever afford a $50k car like that. But I sure wish I could…
Price for the suspension compared to resale, not worth it. And what is the replacement cost.
If you're a track rat, the MR is a joke. If you stick to the streets, it's awesome.
If its a joke why would Ford put in on their track focused vehicles? -Justin
And can someone tell me how much one of these Shocks cost when they go out ? And believe me they can go out.. And if it's anything like the Corvette as soon as one shocks goes out a some of the system's are disabled till you replace the shock..
shouldn't expect anything different... Even though a good amount of cars use them now.. they are still ass expensive when they go out.. So I don't expect them to ever become cheap to fix.
That's why you have warranties:)
Even still they have to fail, they don't exactly wear out.
I'm more of a mechanical guy and would prefer a manually adjustable suspension. I'm not a fan of the front end either, looks like a Anime character, jmo.
Wheel hop?
Charles Lewis oh ya. My 18 GTPP with mag ride def still hops
Weird... mine doesn't, and I tried... your 6 speed or 10?
Jeremy Winslow 6 speed. MT-82. Hops like a rabbit on steroids 🤬
Blake Dudley dang
Blake Dudley that's most likely the difference. I have seen non magna ride autos hop, and standards hop, but I have not seen or been able to get my auto with magna ride to do it... but I have also not power brakes it to like 3k and let her rip.. not found a need to.
Magneride ...sounds like witchcraft lol
Magnaride is a waste of money. It costs you money to get it and the repairs are more pricey or u can get a fancy set of coilovers for extra scratch
Not exactly a scientific review
magneride hmmm sounds familiar oh yeah chevys been had that🤣
Blah Blah oh ok were talking 2018 Mustang right 20 fuckn 18 gets magneride not previous mustangs. chevy had it since 2002 catch up with the times young blood
Does your car have magneride ?
Blah Blah not dieing today 🤪
Carl Ryan yes
chris Lo Lots of cars have had it before. Not just Chevy. God you sound like a GM nut hugger
How about that Cat fish front end...lol
No worries 2t713. All you’ll see is the 2018 GT’s tail lights.
Nice to see Ford leave the horse and buggy leaf springs behind, European cars were doing 4 wheel independent in the '60's when Mustangs were for driving in straight lines. Still wouldn't buy one.
You drove like my grandma. Maybe get 10 mph more on corners? Seriously? I could ride my bike faster. Did you get over 2,000 rpms? Don't think so. That was sad. Then you blamed salt like 20 times. WTH. Very lame.
Its pronounced Delph"i" Not Delph"e".........
Who also has a 365hp srt4 that'll wipe your gas ass mustangs shity smirk off of your face
Useless review
Good luck with the maintenance, what a waist of $
hende11201979 waste*
Waste?! So you haven't driven a car with mag-ride.
hende11201979 waist 😂
hende11201979 then don’t buy it when / if you purchase a Mustang. Problem solved.
If you can't afford the cost don't buy a sports car. Looks like you're more of a Focus guy
Why look at this video when you can just look at all the other videos from 2014 when GM started using this stuff and then was gracious enough to let ford have it for the crappy girly looking mustangs. 😆
says the sonic driver
GM started using this stuff around 2002. GM wasn't gracious enough about anything. They were gracious enough to take in Delphi, BUT Delphi became independent around the time STS used it's tech. Delphi was gracious enough to let GM use the tech...
Texarmageddon point made but the new mustangs still look gay as fuck all the mustang before now looked mean manly but this shit has become a feminine side show.
I'm not going say I completely agree with you it just honestly depends... It has it pros... Just like the new Camaro.. I love the front of the car and then the back looks like... Fuck you guys we ran out of room... Now what? looks like a disaster in the back.
Of all three American sport coupes... I like the challenger in the looks design altogether.
As best overall performer- I give to the Camaro SS all day
Best overall car as a performer and as a daily- Mustang GT
As best American 2 door sport cars...
1.) Viper
2.) Ford GT
3.) Corvette
I like the corvette, but after owning one.. Your desire to have another just isn't as high to own one of the other two.
Texarmageddon I loved my srt4 though I wish it was a two door I've owned two like what you said about the vette your lust to have another just isn't their though it was one of the best cars mechanically and hp tq I've owned I now have a 04 gto to replace it and I love it.
Contains millions and millions if these tiny particles (demonstrates size by showing the distance between thumb and forefinger) .
Really ?condescending much?