Apparently if you have Pyromancer in the title you get 100k views so click this | FFXIV Drama
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Xeno Reacts to another drama video made by @Pyromancer. This is the sequel to the sequel to Pyromancing deleting his Twitter Part 2. Pyromancer said in his video that by having his name in the title, you get 100k views on youtube so I decided to put this to the test xffing.
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As someone with ADHD watching this, I just roll my eyes. We all struggle with, doesn't give you the right to be a jerk.
I can sympathize with him to an extent as I have Tourette's (which can lead to unintended outbursts), it is rough having mental disorders like ADHD and the symptoms are different for people, some people have other triggers or distractions, etc. It is understandable it is more difficult for such people to filter or control their emotions, but it Pyro shouldn't solely blame the disorder for his own actions, if Pyro actually owned up to his actions and demonstrated that he is improving then I can forgive some mishaps here and there, it happens to the best of people. The problem is that it seems to be a recurring theme of him getting baited or having emotional outbursts, then he will apologize and claims to seek professional help, maybe he is seeking one but the therapy or medications may not be as effective as his professional thinks.
Pyro needs to chill on the content creation stream, learn to filter the baits, and take a quick break while he consults with a medical professional. I know he has a couple mods that try to help him out there and there and filter out the obvious baits, but they are only human.
Yeah if it were an occasional issue where he had an uncharacteristic outburst or something I would totally understand talking about his issues making things difficult. The problem is that these outbursts are the norm for him, and so it makes any apology seem super disingenuous. He needs to actually make an effort to change if he wants people to stop seeing him as an angry little drama troll.
Funnily enough. Him covering himself up with ADHD as an excuse brings back my trauma. A kid who had "ADHD" was given a free reign in middle school here (like 15 years ago) and everything he did, even if it almost killed me or my peers would be shrugged off "just ADHD thing" by the faculty. Yeah, Pyro can eat shit and start acting like a fucking adult and stop making excuses for his shit behaviour.
Especially with ADHD, it's pretty easy to notice a pattern in your behavior if you're trying. It also doesn't justify doubling down. I have ADHD and I've definitely said some dumb shit without thinking, but I almost always regret it immediately after instead of trying to convince everyone I'm actually right.
Nothing infuriates me more than somebody trying to use their ADHD as a shield. "Oh, I messed up? Well, it's not my fault, I have ADHD!" As if it absolves them from responsibility and consequences.
This whole saga is giving me the vibes of "emotionally manipulating my viewers into feeling sorry for me". Everyone has things they have to go through, trials and tribulations. And just because he has ADHD doesn't mean that he can suddenly do and behave as he wants. My daughter suffers from SEVERE ADHD and I tell her all the time "Having a mental disadvantage does not mean you get a hall pass to act like a jerk." I always reiterate daily "Treat others the way you want to be treated, do to others the way you want them to do to you." Pyro seemed to miss that memo. I have ADHD, Bipolar, PTSD, anxiety, etc., and I could never imagine using any of those as a crutch to why I did something like this. Hell I was told I only produce 15-20% of serotonin and I still make sure I brighten everyone's day I come across just because I never want them to feel how I did with my years of abuse. You don't use your trauma as a get out of jail free card, same with mental disadvantages/disabilities. It takes approximately $0.00 to take accountability, ownership, and responsibility of your actions and work towards changing them in whatever means necessary (therapy, different med swaps, other forms of professional help, etc.) Just my hot take on the situation. I'll be glad when he finally gets his shit together because this is no longer accidental, this is a choice in behavior *shrug*
"emotionally manipulating my viewers into feeling sorry for me"
He had a thing a while ago with his girlfriend (fiance? wife? whatever) figuring out she can't have kids via a miscarriage. Perfectly reasonable thing for a person to get emotional about, and if they as a couple want to make that public via a stream or whatever, that's fine. I wouldn't recommend that, but they're free to tell whoever, however.
He milked that stream so hard, being as dramatic and emotionally dejected and sad as possible. And normally I wouldn't call that "milking the stream" because again, perfectly reasonable thing to be upset about. But whenever someone made a big donation or there was a technical problem, He would instantly switch over on a dime from openly sobbing and forcefully crying to being totally cheerful/annoyed and addressing it in his normal, every day tone as if nothing had happened, then forget briefly what he was talking about before going right back into the weeping and struggling to talk about it.
I could deal with his annoying outbursts and kinda cringe behavior, but that was the stream that made me fully stop paying attention to him (I gotta click on my favorite ract strimmer's take though)
It's absolutely emotional manipulation, and he's not even good at it. He's said himself that it's all to drive engagement and get that internet money. What he didn't say is that it's also what xeno keeps saying: it's about ego and attention and validation
lol so you just got every mental disability in the book, including "etc" XD
As someone that was diagnosed with ADHD at 8 years old, and struggles DAILY to get their thoughts out exactly how I mean them to be, and not say or do something stupid that gets misconstrued, this clown will use any excuse possible to not take fault for his own stupid actions. Blame it on ADHD, blame it on mental health, blame it on XIV, blame it on twitter. IT. IS. HIM.
Bruh, he said small things you disagree with online, you weird mfs think this man is like irredeemable and needs to lose his career because he typed a few things on twitter (that weren't even that bad) and he falls for bait in streams like 90% of streamers, the FFXIV community is just overwhelmingly shizo and one of the most hivemind toxic communities for any media that has ever existed.
The obnoxious part is this clown doofus was acting the same way in wow. He was infamous for spazzing out over his brainlet theories when it came to wow lore. I don't feel sympathy for people who don't actively try to better themselves and just blame everything else except themselves.
@@yeetusdeleetus4697 Where did I say any of that? He absolutely is redeemable. I said he wants to blame everything except himself for his actions. Yes he has a mental health issue and behavioral disorder that makes things a hell of a lot harder than it is for a neuro-typical person. It sucks. People with ADHD have harder times filtering stuff sometimes. We also don't form the positive habits like a typical person. Taking a shower, brushing my teeth etc is a conscious decision I HAVE to tell myself to make every day, otherwise I won't do it. Even to my closest friends who know and understand my issues, I will retype every text to them 4-5 times because I don't want to make a mistake with what I say. Having ADHD means you have to learn ways to work around what's simply a natural thing for other people. You have to look at your issues and choose to take one step at a time every single day. It will never just be normal, even when medicated. All I said was that he's choosing to put the blame and fault of his issues on everything except himself. He deserves his career. I want him to succeed.
@@ilitsa then you're one of the vast minority here. Also he did not blame his ADHD, he put a whole video out after that one saying that he wasn't deflecting blame, but rather explaining his pov and what leads him to those moments when he fails to control himself/his emotions. Every single person commenting is likely guilty of far worse than one slightly rude tweet.
@@ilitsa My wife suffers from ADHD and works as a Sales Manager. The stress is intense on her, but even with her mental health issue she NEVER lets it affect her work or how she interacts with people. She treats people with absolute respect and is a sweetheart to her team, even when they make mistakes (albeit these mistakes don't happen often, but still). So seeing This dude throws all of his problems at his ADHD, like it's some remedy that's supposed to fix any fuck up or ill treatment he has of others online. That's never acceptable. This attitude just pisses me off and spits in the face of other individuals who actually MANAGE their disorders and go on living their lives without blaming their issues solely on their mental inhibitions, be it anxiety, depression, OCD, ADHD, ect.
Anyways, I agree. If he's going to improve his overall mental health and mood, he actually needs to address the problem instead of simply blaming it for his life's misfortunes. That attitude simply becomes repetitive and leads to an unhealthy cycle of self destruction, apologizing, never improving and then inevitably waiting to fuck up again.
HIS LATEST VIDEO IS A REACTION VIDEO OF HIM CRYING WHILE WATCHING A LECTURE ON ADHD. COMMENTS TURNED OFF. Absolutely bonkers.
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I didn't believe this at first. Sadly this is true. Its really weird man.
@@eollin2097 I hope he has some one I’m his life keeping an eye on him. That video is really alarming
I had to actually go to his channel to believe this.... no one with ADHD that I know of went to these lengths for what; followers? Attention? Money? It sure isn't awareness. ADHD is common in the world yet is something everyone has to deal with solo because you have to find your personal calming mechanism (mine has always been music with headphones)
No freaken way…
Pyro is that friend who has problems and you're empathetic to them but keep going on and on and making situations about themselves because of the stuff they're dealing with... despite the fact that you're also dealing with shit on top of having to deal with their shit too. So you get so drained and exhausted hanging out with them that you low-key dread doing it even though you still care deep down.
An emotional vampire 🧛♂️
Most cases I know, people end up ditching said ‘friend’.
I dont know if Xeems reads comments but I hope he sees this. I absolutely respect the fuck out of him. His work history and how he arrived at streaming man I've done that shit. I worked offshore in the gulf of Mexico and on land in the oilfield for 12 years. In the heat, rain and cold swinging sledge hammers mixing concrete. I've got boots with that hole in it. Cause it was the one free pair. Wrapped mine in duct tape. I've got my class A CDL and I've missed so much of my life and what I wanted to do because it's what I had to do. Before that working shit retail jobs flat broke. Took my wife out to a date at ihop at 1 am because we hadn't gone out together in months and 1 am let us wait long enough at the table for direct deposit to go through so we could pay. Grocery shopping late at night for the same reason.
I'm not a streamer but I am not in that industry anymore, nowhere close. And I'm the happiest I've ever been. When xeems said he'd rather die than go back to any of that I felt it. Cause that shit is real.
I may not be bald or cute but reading this was nice, hope you and yours are doing well! ❤
@dailydoseofkeemstar1262 I am definitely bald but probably not cute and thank you so much. Life is so much better now than just ever been. We don't have much but I'm fucking happy
You deserve everything in this world & much more my man ❤
@@VibeFGC it doesn't always feel that way but thank you for the kind words
@@Zedword42 ....what is this wholesome shit!? :P
No BS advice to Pyro: Stop! Seriously stop there is nothing to be gained but misery from this spiralling. I get the mental health stuff, but you NEED to learn when it's best to pack up and stop "tackling" the drama. This isn't good! This isn't healthy! Leave things alone, let things settle! Stop man please stop!
Its for the clicks bro he's just trying to stay relevant.
Leave Brittany alone! Why must you be so mean whyyyyyyyyyy!
A. You are correct.
B. Great channel!
@@jackjohnson8305 I hope not, because all he'll end up becoming is a lolcow like some people... it's really really really awful. I wouldn't recommend that path to my worst enemy.
@@noxyoshi I admit I am very much this rn, I just feel bad. I'm a very young guy and I see stuff like this though and it makes me sad cause years ago I got smashed by something sad and I've been learning to cope and improved better and better. I really want to see pyro step back and stop spiralling, this is the path to misery. I really earnestly hope he can recover.
I will admit, The first few incidents i was on the "Just leave Pyro alone" train. But as they kept popping up, I started watching less and less. Then when I heard he quit his job and bought a new house JUUUST as his MSQ hype was at peak, I KNEW that was a very bad decision knowing the FFXIV community. I to have come the the realization that streamimg just might not be for him...or at least streaming as a JOB. He has, unfortunately, shown that people can get to him, and they absolutely will take advantage of that EVERY chance they can. I feel he now thinks he is stuck...new house, new wife that has had some serious medical issues very recently, and seriously declining viewers and subs. That, combined with his inablity to control his emotions has exacerbated his issues and he is now self imploding.
Oof. Yeah I feel bad for him, but in the way I'd pity somebody who lost everything to gambling. This is still his fault because of his poor choices, but it is sad to see.
He's become a lolcow
"Isn't Ginger Prime on retirement with 6 kids???" I fucking lost it lmfao.
I said this on his videos and I'm going to say it here. I was in an emotionally, mentally and physically abusive relatioship for 3 years and at the tail end of that, I sat in a hospital for two weeks watching my newborn daughter in a NICU unit pass away slowly. I have been through some shit NO ONE should ever have to deal with in their life time. Its been 5 years and I'm still absolutely broken. The amount of depression and anxiety I feel knows no bounds, I can barely leave my house to even get the mail without crumbling. I barely sleep, because the night terrors from that trauma is so frequent and so real. I have never in my life treated someone else the way Pyro continuously treats people. I make mistakes, I snap sometimes, I over react, etc. Because everyone does, because thats being human. The difference is the severity of when Pyro does it, and he just keeps going, he doesn't stop and go ohp I messed up. He double downs, triple downs, and then when finally the entire internet is at his throat he makes some garbage apology video while stroking his ego. He's a pos and hes an egotistical narcissist. Point blank. Him blaming every single meltdown he has had over all the years of WoW and now XIV on mental health bothers me a lot. As it clearly bothers a lot of people from the chat in the vod for this video, but also in the comment section. People like Pyro are the reason why mental health is so stigmatized, and why so many people think its just some made up non sense, because you have clowns like this that use it as an excuse everytime they go nuclear for 0 reason. He needs to stop streaming, and he honestly needs to stop playing XIV.
I am so sorry for your loss and sorry you've had to go through all of that trauma. You are exactly right that Pyro is a narcissistic POS that just makes things worse for others with mental health issues. He needs to log off and actually work on himself.
@@vielara Thank you, I appreciate it. I just can't stand when people use this stuff as a crutch, especially as frequently as Pyro does
I'm so sorry for your loss, I can't even imagine the pain you've been through. Just remember that small steps can be huge victories, hope things get better for you
Wish you well ❤
His mods actually enable a lot of it
If you see the way they kind of usher him and his viewers in a certain direction. You would get why streaming this game is incredibly toxic for him
As someone with ADHD, i understand why it happened and why he acts like this and why he made the mistakes he made. BUT it is not an excuse. its the reason i dont stream, its the reason that if i were to be in any space where I have a big following, i'd hire someone to be a buffer between me and audience especially on tweets nshit.
he thought he could just do it all on his own, and ignore the fact he had ADHD even tho he knows he does. and i guess you could if you learned how too. theres plenty of ADHD streamers out there that dont pick fights with their audience or say stupid shit on their twitter.
does ADHD make it harder? sure as fuck does. but its still not an excuse. nobody forced you to be a streamer or a public figure.
ADHD doesn't make you a toxic angry entitled asshole, sorry not sorry, I have ADHD and I've had it since I was a kid, it fucks up my ability to focus on things. It doesn't cause anger issues, it doesn't cause people to have a short fuse on benign topics, it doesn't make you scream at your audience because of a high chair in a video game.
He's a petulant asshole blaming his angry outbursts on an inability to focus and on his penchant to act before thinking, none of which actually covers his ACTUAL problems.
I'm sick and tired of people using their mental health disorders as shields for being mean awful people, if you have ODD (like I do) then I can forgive you for being an ass and being angry when someone tries to pull authority. If you have depression and anxiety then I can forgive you for not sticking to plans or socializing, if you have schizophrenia then I can forgive you for having a manic episode. But if you're coming to me telling me that you beat your wife because you have ADHD or that you solicit minors online because you have depression then no, that's just you being a shitty awful person.
That's Pyro, that's this apology from him, it's garbage.
Exactly this. I have ADHD, it's pretty bad because I can't afford the medication so it's self managed with caffeine and trying to stick to routines. I don't blow up on my viewers or lose my shit because of it. Outward explosive rage is a symptom of *childhood* ADHD, not /adult/ ADHD. By the time you're an adult, the struggle is internal, not external. We lack impulse control, true, but we're not ragemonsters.
Pyro's anger may be contributed to by the frustration that comes with ADHD, but it's not the overall cause, and it's not an excuse. He needs anger management tools.
That's the issue with people these days, they use the health issues as an excuse to act out. It is also why i do not stream, I wanted to but very quickly learned that it is not for me because I have many issues in my life that I am still dealing with and working on to improve myself from many moments of my life and I do not want to make them public. Pyro needs to take a step back to be honest and just do some self reflection, get off the internet, and touch some grass, for a long time. I do, I spend more time outside now than I ever have and it helped my mental health more than I can imagine and i am glad for that.
Thank you! I saw alot of people in Zeplas Chat for instance where people said "I have ADHD and I don't act like that"
Ffs of course not. You are not in the center of thousand judging eyes, provoking you.
I am also ADHD, and while I struggle daily and believe it’s okay to have the disability… it’s not okay to expect society to let you act like a jackass because you have it.
Expecting the world to educate themselves about ADHD and then tip-toe around your disability is just…ridiculous. I would never be so egotistical.
I like watching these reacts just so I don't have to give Pyromancer any views. Thanks Xeems!
genuinely think xenosys is actually trying to help pyro. he may seem rough around the edges but everything he said could really help pyro if he listened to him. because that is true. everybody has really horrible problems and you just have to deal with them. it's life. adhd or not. there's worse things than it and even if you ain't suffering mentally, you could still have a million of other worse problems.. let this go pyro and just continue bettering yourself instead of posting apology videos. it'll help you in a long run and hopefully make you a better and stronger person.. because after you mess up, internet isn't gonna let it go even if you apologize.. just let this go and continue improving.. trust me, it's better for you and people who like your content.. almost everyone agrees that your lore content is top tier so focus your energy on that. that could also be a part of your therapy instead of focusing your mind on drama
I agree 100%. I wish Pyro listened to Xeno months and months and months ago. It makes me sad, I'm seeing him fall into the same crushing lapses over and over again. It hurts to see, honestly...
Eg: Xeno saying actions matter more than just saying sorry. Not just making a video and not saying the stuff again. Actions... actions! Such solid advice!
@@ColeEvyx yeah. you can feel that pyro is really passionate about ffxiv and its story and you can feel that sensitive side of his in how he reacts to the story. he has to find a way to make his content all about that and avoid drama at all cost. even posting about your mental problems isn't gonna help you. especially after you fucked up. this is internet and it's ruthless..
Man I'm 34 and have had ADHD my whole life and Pyro is fucking absolutely blowing this out of proportion holy shit...
@@booblaa9734 no matter how severe his ADHD is, self flagellation through Twitter and Twitch chat that makes his disorder 10x worse is his conscious choice
-ADHD
-FFX14
-Bullies
-Streaming
-His past
-Meth father
-Stepfather
-Other streamers
-ADHD
-Random people
-The internet
-You reading this
-Me writing this
-Commentators
-Taking pharmaceuticals
-His need to take responsibility unlike other streamers
-Not taking pharmaceuticals
-Cameras
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Yo chill out hes gonna hit the debuff limit for the instance.
@@etchyasketch2851 LMAO
pyro drama version x.x cycle:
claim/accuse someone > public backlash > apology video > blame some self diagnose mental problem > calamity > back to square one
tbf I don't quite think it is self diagnosed when he took medication. (Either way after so long it is pretty easy to tell you have a problem and dr's just give you something simple to diagnose you anyway.)
@@Tecolote41 why not? How do you know he's actually even taking them? Could just be sugar pills for all we know and he's just faking shit up. Not that difficult to lie about such things these days.
Holy crap Xeno, you are a handsome man even with out your bald head.
not gonna lie it would be hillarious if this gets 100k views
Edit: also pretty fucked up of him to say "oh i apologized to seems" and then in the literal next video proceeds to go "ah Xenosys Vex is probably gonna watch this and use me for views again" imagine having an ego this size when you havent achieved anything he came in around the same time asmon did and was able to ride that for while and let it get to his head and now he's paying for going to fast on the streaming thing
makes me mad cuz he could learn alot from xenos's comments. it can really help him.
I have ADHD and I understand emotional outbursts and irrational reactions because I used to have them badly. Full on uncontrollable crying panic attacks at work if a customer or manager chewed me out. It was BAD and it gave me horrible depression.
Eventually I decided enough was enough. I got a formal diagnosis and help, and while I still experience issues, it's much less severe or frequent.
ADHD might be an explanation for something but it is not an excuse. Plenty of people with ADHD are not assholes. Plenty of people without ADHD are assholes. It sucks to have a brain that does this to you, believe me, I know, but you have to learn to deal with it. It's just what you have to do as a responsible adult who socially interacts with people.
If you lash out at someone who does not deserve it, whether you have ADHD or not: you apologize! You don't do it again! You change your behavior! And, importantly, you are not owed forgiveness by the people you hurt. Don't make excuses about it.
I saw pyromancer in the title so I clicked this hope you get 100k views
Pyro: screams and shits on people.
People react negative to that.
Pyro: How can u be such cruel bullies I have mental health issues. 😢
This dude is the embodiement of the stick in the bike meme.
As someone who has dealt with Pyro before this is the typical "woe is me" he does after being called out and caught for misbehaviors. How did it happen with me? Pyro was trying to be a big ass warlock theorycrafter/streamer and was stealing content from other warlocks (like myself) and the Warlock community/website as a whole. It got to the point that he had to find an entirely new outlet besides high end gameplay (WoW Lore) to avoid being clowned on and yet again doing WoW Lore was him stealing content from yet other creators! This is the pattern with this guy, he steals, he lies, he fights with people and then he pretends that its just his disabilities/weaknesses and that he needs money to be properly supported. When he did this in WoW the sympathy got him and his mom a new place to live. People hopefully will wise up to this guy as he continues to burn every bridge around him.
Yet he has the gall to bitch about not being creditted when someone else presents a theory similar to his. As if he's the only one to ever come to those conclusions.
Pyro: *shits on people*
*People respond negatively*
Pyro: "It's not my fault, but people don't understand and they make me feel shitty."
It's not my fault, it's the ADHD
Xeno, thanks for sharing bits of your past experiences. It makes me believe that I can get through what I’m getting through right now and that I’ll be ok. Much love ❤️
❤
I am kind of disappointed. After the Emet Selch story I got used to ffxiv having sympathetic villains with deep interesting motivations, but then we got Zenos, who was a little weaker and now this Pyromancer guy seems like a complete joke. Maybe they will flesh him out in a future update but so far he is pretty bland as villains go. At least some of the scenes are funny I guess.
I wouldnt necessarily call Zenos weaker than Emet. He has just as much depth, just that its very different compared to the easy to understand motivations of Emet-Selch, so a lot of people just fail to actually get it
(also yes I realize the comment was a joke anyway lol)
@@atelierbagur3831people never look at zenos in the whole picture of the story. What reason does he have to keep on living? The WoL. It contradicts Hermes and his nihilistic view, because even Zenos whos only thrive is to fight us kept on going just for that.
I'm not going to even need healers for The Pyro Protocal Ultimate
LMFAO at first i was confused about a lore comment on this video but then i saw the rest and just started laughing, Well done xD
My 2 cents as someone that does have PTSD and a few issues that come with that, it definitely CAN negatively impact the way you react to certain stimuli, and sometimes you don't have a lot of control in that exact moment, but I personally get help as needed. I have methods of coping with my issues, and I avoid that stimuli whenever it's possible for me to do so. Obviously the world isn't perfect and you can't have 100% control over what happens every moment of every day but you can at least try to minimise it. In this case if I were him, I wouldn't be using social media at all, and definitely wouldn't be streaming because clearly that is a stimuli that triggers and exacerbates his issues. My doctor gave me a really good comparison when I was younger that put it into perspective. Especially since I never took my mental health seriously as a young man, having always recieved the typical "man up" response when it came to my mental problems.
Treat it like it's a physical ailment. If you had a problem with your lungs where you occasionally had trouble breathing you should obviously therefore avoid smoking.
If you have a torn muscle in your arms or back or whatever, where it hurts to do any physical activity, the last thing you should be doing is hitting the gym and deadlifting 200kg.
TLDR, don't actively engage in activities that exacerbate your pre-existing issues.
Reminds me of my ex-wife, she would blame everything on her mental issues and the voices when she treated me like shit. So happy I'm done with that bullshit
I can’t explain how living as a undiagnosed adhd, social anxiety, highly depressed, severely closeted man till i was 27 affected me still. I was extremely ackward, extremely reclusive, and had zero friends practically all my life. I’am waaaay the f**k better now but boy would i have very difficult interactions, stuttering issues i never realized, and overall OCD to everything. You know the difference was? Ff14 gave me experience and friends I didn’t deserve and that made SEEK out Help. It worked! He’s practically biting the hands that helped him and thats just a bad excuse.
That video of his was just embarrassing. I was diagnosed with bipolar 1 and was having manic episodes to the tune of getting hauled to the mental ward because I was trying to fight cops, refusing to answer to my name because I had "killed" my former self and was a new and different person, deliberately saying incredibly mean things to friends to drive them off, and spending hundreds of dollars for no reason. My psych helped me get medicated and I put myself in a 10-hour-a-week group therapy program for 2 months while working a full time job and now it's been a few months with blessedly no incidents. It's one thing to admit you have a problem, it's another to work on it.
Maybe we should ask Tyler if that entity he calls Pyromancer also has mental issues since he seems to separate the two...
💯 agree with you again. Your mental health is NOT AN EXCUSE to be an asshole. It means he needs to be more vigilant about how he's feeling and know when to call it a day when streaming!
Dealing with bipolar disorder and same, seeing people blame things on bipolar and even getting away with it is so cringe. In new few years ago there was some guy who wrecked whole hospital waiting room and got away with it because he was diagnosed with bipolar, absolute madness
Simpsons: "Stop, Stop! He's Already Dead" omg xD HOW IS THERE MORE?!?!?!?! AHHHHHHHHH😆😆😆
No BS advice to Pyro: Stop! Seriously stop there is nothing to be gained but misery from this spiralling. I get the mental health stuff, but you NEED to learn when it's best to pack up and stop "tackling" the drama. This isn't good! This isn't healthy! Leave things alone, let things settle! Stop man please stop!
He already has 3 more videos posted after this that all basically cope/deflect/blame mental health issues. They were shorter videos but I couldn't even finish them.
Came back to FFXIV after 9 months, got caught up on community drama, saw the pryo drama and can't believe he made himself the main villain of the next expansion.
On a serious note I do hope he steps away from streaming, gets therapy and finds employment that suits him. I don't think streaming full time is the answer for this guy rn.
Miss your streams Chad!
@@tetraspirit13 They're back :)
The wildest thing to me about this is that he constantly separates himself as Pyro and Tyler but at the end he says the struggles of his mental health of Tyler, but not of Pyro. So if it's a Tyler issue, how is he able to apply those issues to Pyro? Dude needs some serious help.
Pyro has the same mannerisms and way of speaking as my abusive ex. He also has the same excuses.. so watching him is hard. Its really a situation where "I see where I am messing up and I am presenting as vulnerable, I will only hold myself accountable enough to try to manipulate you into believing I am getting better and working on myself" to just turn around and continue doing the same things with no reflection. As if the pity party makes it all go away. People are not asking for unreasonable accountability. He is the one making this WAY BIGGER than it even needs to be.
Stopped around the 15 minute mark to say that as a person who has Multiple Sclerosis: I empathize that you have a condition, but man you could have it a hell of a lot worse. I try not to complain anymore about my MS as I've had it for roughly 8 years now, but I could complain about how I will sleep for a week straight or that I have to go on disability because I can't hold a position. Imagining that I graduated college and then get something that changes your life course dramatically sucks, but I know people have it way worse than even I do. So I really hate how he uses something that a lot of people suffer with as an excuse for his shitty behavior. Nah man, you just have a shitty behavior and it doesn't come from your ADHD.
"is he blowing this out of proportion?" -
I was disgnosed with ADHD in 1990. i am 35 y/o now.
yes...yes, he is blowing it out of porprotion.
Life as someone with ADHD, is no different than any other in the grand scheme. The differences are minuet and inconsequential when broken down.
it's just not an excuse. He is old enough, and ...figuratively speaking at this point....mature enough to be abl to determine if he's in a good head space to stream. but...apparently...not? idk man. doesn't fly with me.
additionally,
for someone claiming to be "struggling" ...certainly seems to have taken more than enough time to look presentable. ...someone who struggles with those things, often doesn't look that well put together.
just saying
I have ADD and anxiety and yes a lot of us are sensitive to criticism like a simple comment ends up sticking with you for days and it’s all you can think about however this is not and should never be an excuse to lash out at others. It is our responsibility as adults to do what we can to control our emotions, for me that was getting cognitive behavioral therapy for pyro he might want to rethink his career choices or get therapy to learn to handle criticism but a job that involves being exposed to a lot of criticism just might not be a good fit for him and he should take responsibility for that.
What people like Pyro seem to not grasp is people don’t come to watch the content, they come to watch YOU REACT to the content.
For Example, Grinding Gear has created such an enjoyable community experience as Kyle and Garret make their way through the FF14 MSQ. They allow people to RP during points in the story, and provide very hilarious Voice acting during non voices segments. There’s theory crafting and all kinds of activities. Plus their chemistry together has made people interested in them streaming more games together like Diablo 4 and FF16.
I've loved watching Kyle and Garret go through it all. Preach was also very enjoyable with all the voices he's come up with.
I LOVE KYLE AND GARRET
love those two honestly!
The GG guys are one of a small number of content creators I support directly. I'll watch the ads for most folks on UA-cam with the volume on my headset turned down, or at least the first 30 seconds of em so they get credit. But the joy they bring is worth a couple of bucks a month to me.
This guy really got worried about losing revenue, but still says "it pays better than a regular job".. then I am here sitting with minimum wage, with worse work conditions from day to day.
Coming home just to join my favorite streamers to chill out and gladly support them with some of my money.
We all have our problems and I know enough streamer in FF14 that struggle with ADHD and non of them act like that. They have their moments but even in the moment recognize that they fucked up and apologize, if it even comes to it. No ones mad.
And all I see is..
Pyro: You are an asshole.
Someone else: No you.
Pyro: *surprise pikachu face*
I have been diagnosed with ADHD and probably have depression but that hasn't been diagnosed.
I think the mental illness is a battle against a very strong enemy. I can't really blame people when they falter. It all sucks. But what I don't agree with is mentioning it in an apology.
I have ADHD and it might contribute to some really dumb, impulsive decisions. But it isn't like I couldn't have controlled myself better. I know my situation. If I say something impulsive and hurt someone, my apology isn't "sorry, it was the ADHD." My apology is "I fucked up and should not have said that. There is no excuse, it was a mistake that I wish I could undo. I hope you can forgive me."
I am autistic and have ADHD as well. My take is that he really should find a different career. I don't know this dude, but I know from my life experience, proper counseling and proper ADHD medication can be amazing for some of us. Making your mental illness your personality trait is.. odd to me.
I'll never forget in his WoW days another big creator made a meme of his Argus artwork and made a competition out of it. It set him off and he went off in a video. He eventually went back and edited it out. So he has BEEN like this.
He was cast out from the WoW community because he stole other class guide writers content and passed it off as his own.
He also begged his viewers for money for his mother to move house but then bought a new car a week later.
Wasn't there another instance during his WoW days where he asked for money for rent or some such then a couple of weeks later he unboxed a couple thousand dollars worth of WoW merch on stream, and his viewers thought he used the "rent money" to buy it? It was a few years ago.
Still scummy as shit to do to people who support you but nothing surprises me about Pyro anymore.
5:45 he basically came up with absolutely unhinged lore speculations and then had a meltdown when it didnt turn out to be true
this is wild, i hope somebody is making a documentary on all the pyromancer drama over the years
Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria RSD is real, but using it as an excuse to shit on others is wild. Hes so desperate in finding a villain he will even blame a video game instead of touching some grass
Pyro just seems like the kind of arrogant yet insecure personality who flips out when he doesn’t have everyone’s agreement or praise.
As someone who been diagnosed with depression (thankfully lot better now) I can say it really makes me annoyed when people use that as a crutch for how they behave. Cause my depression is what made me start doing youtube again and at most maybe I dropped hints of it in post or vids but never was very vocal about it. Only time id even really speak on the subject is when id tell my viewers like hey i need a extra day or two just mentally not doing the best and that was it. I never used depression as a excuse for my actions. Infact my last time being very depressed sent me to the emergency room from starving myself for 2 days without food and after vommiting so much non stop, sweating from every part of my body I realized I need to change my life around. So Started doing youtube again.
And never once have I ever ever blamed my depression on treating someone badly. Cause even as someone who suffers from depression I know that's not right, and honestly I try hard to treat everyone really good and with respect. Im not perfect no one is but this idea of people using illnesses to always justify their bad actions is sickening. But you know what im not a doctor im not pyromancer so I cant speak on his problems. But bro all he has to do is accept he made a mistake, apologize and try to be better, its really not that hard. This dude ego what seems to be really out of control.
Again I don't want to hate on this guy ect but its so frustrating as someone who doesn't watch but knows who he is and just see him act this way. To me personally seems like the first apology was cause he was worried about losing out on money and viewers which help generate money even if they don't sub. And ehhh its frustrating to put the least. Hopefully this dude gets the help he needs cause till his ego comes down a few notches idk but I don't see his channel or streams doing to good.
I knew he was going to play the mental health card.
He needs to to just go back to gaming. Wait a few months and start posting videos again and just try not fuck it up. The more he rehashes it the longer its gonna take to get back to normal
Having a disability sucks. It really does. While it does make certain aspects of social life more difficult, using it as an excuse infuriates me. While it makes life harder, you're still responsible for your own actions. While ADHD can be a factor, it's not the source. And you're responsible to do what you can to mediate yourself.
Bro, he's lecturing the audience in the middle of an apology video. Holy shit.
as someone with ADHD his whole argument is a pile of shit. He's blowing it WAAAY out of proportion. Yes ADHD can make you very spontaneous, make you make decisions without thinking but to tweet the shit that he tweets , to act the way that he acts it pretty much means that he's ENTITLED, and he's just way more likely to not filter how entitled he is because of ADHD. But having ADHD has nothing to do with being a decent human being. Also all of the stuff about the pills that mentioned taking have nothing to do with ADHD, antidepressants and mood stabilizers, especially as a combo are something bipolar or bordeline personallity disorder people, have to take.
"My adhd makes me overly prideful" - That's it, that's the video. Pyro is so self absorbed, it's so over for him.
Drama videos aren't the most viewed videos in the FFXIV community, its the music tracks and trailers.
As someone with depression since 12yo, this person makes no sense to me. Having any kind of mental illness is not reason to be a dickhead towards others, everyone has problems, therapists and doctors exists.
I had heavy mental issues 7-8 years ago, my life quality was going downhill quick. I did not seek therapy or anything of the sort.
I signed up for military service, ngl first 2 months was worse than ever, since no one knew about my problems, was ending up nearly crying in the bathroom at night for good 20 mins, just feeling sorry for myself.
After 2 more months due to all the training and physical exhaustion i was ending up too tired to feel the mental rut and depression.
7 months in the service I became numb to my own mental issues and finally started to feel happiness in my accomplishments.
After my service was done, mental problems no longer had any impact to my psyche, they simply became irrelevant to me. Now I'm in such a strong mental state to the point where i can relate to others mental problems, but they seem like first world problems to me.
Sometimes it takes real struggles to overcome these minor nuisances that are mental problems. Why do i call them minor? Because after overcoming them that's exactly how they feel to me.
Most of the time, therapy doesn't help in any permanent way if your own mental shift doesn't happen. It's your own mental shift is what solves majority of mental issues, not some dude with the degree in psych. Yes, therapists have their own value in the process, but they can't incur your mental to shift back to normal.
The thing that really gets me is that he's just dismissing his mental problems as something that's inevitable. If you work to control yourself, seek some counseling, medicate if you need to, just work on your state of mind and avoid the things that set you off, you wont be flying off the handle and ruining your own life all the time.
I have pretty bad anger issues, and I used to have some pretty serious depression. I straight up attacked my boss once after a few particularly stressful days of work. I went to counseling, identified the different stressors in my life, and now I can identify when something is making me upset and I keep calm. This was all a few years back and now most people I know don't even know I have anger problems.
It takes effort and work to improve your situation, but you have to acknowledge that you're in control and thus your actions are still your fault regardless of whatever conditions you have. That's impossible if you constantly blame everything else in your life for your actions.
As someone who recently got their ADHD dignosis and medication for it: Being undignosed and/or unmedicated can be hellish.
BUT: Pyro claims to be medicated and getting help.
Another part of getting help is finding other coping mechanisms to work WITH the medication and therepy to improve your life. Also stopping/lessoning the behaviours that fuck up your life.
Pyro is just throwing himself a fuckin pity party cause he is getting called out on his shit. He is like.... the god king of missing the fucking point. Why is he torturing himself like this? Is the amount of money he is getting worth it?
man wtf happened in the week I was out?
mans having an entire character arc on youtube lmao.
"at least you have hair!"
dam that hit different
This grown man has the biggest victim mentality I’ve ever witnessed.
Y'know I struggle with anxiety so strong that it causes physical pain that loops into itself and makes it worse until I either pass out or somehow server the loop with medication or other mitigation.
I don't lash out at others, and if I know a panic attack or undue stress is coming I leave the stressor until I can come back with a clearer mind.
The only time my problems can impede with life is when I black out from sound or shock. But that's because I seek help with medication and techniques. They're not an excuse to lean back into if I feel I want to lash out.
Also I'm in a wheelchair from the sound problem making me collapse onto my knee and now I'm getting buff biceps until I get that thing fixed. I'm not letting that get me down either even with depression making me want to inflect self harm when the pain gets too strong and triggers the fibromyalgia pain and makes life suck then pass out
I used to have a small following ~10k in a different circle than this, and the pressure and random harassment was making my mental health and existing issues worse. nuking that shit may have made me lose friends ("friends" heavy air quotes) but I'm doing a lot better I think. Not everyone needs a huge public persona to be happy and i think this dude should just find something healthier for him tbh. My issues don't make me toxic like this but I had many many nights that rumors at my expense made me soy side all and I just bottled it up and ruined my body trying to hide how much having even a SMALL following was affecting me. If I ever got followers again I'd just get rid of it for good. It's not worth it.
I take the exact medications he takes, and I've fallen off them before...you know what you do? "Hey I'm going to avoid going into a situation that may upset or set me off, I need to take a step away." You learn to deal with it, medication isn't a magic fix. It is a tool to help you. You have to take action.
I have real anger issues where I've said and done stupid stuff out of anger. As I got older with more responsbilities, I changed not just because I wanted to be a better person but because I had to deal with the repercussions from my actions. Pyro is acting on it because he doesn't have to deal with the consequences of his actions. He gets to keep his YT channel , money, way of life and people around him who will enable him because he supports them. Until he truly suffers a repercussion he will never change and this is only a part of his pattern. At this point it's less ADHD and more Narcissism.
a phrase an NCO told me a long time ago when I was in the army, was "your problems are not my responsibilities" and though it was directly about me it was more related to a situation outside the army I was going through etc. when he said that to me it truly changed my perspective on how I approach things, like I will try to help someone but if it's like every week you keep coming to me for help with x, y or z. I tell em I care but I repeat what that NCO told me years ago.
Who else use Xenos’ drama videos as asmr ?
I literally listened to this while cleaning a newly installed floor lmao 100% me
I use it to sleep 🛌
@@Kiki-ny7qr same!
Pyro is a veteran of the internet, he's been on WoW for YEARS. Why is he expecting the internet to be a safe space and opening up to them and giving them even more fuel to get made fun of???
He just suffers from Narcissism.
Here is my prob with Pyro. Today Im watching him and while having Xeno up on another monitor watching his 14 prog, and all Pyro kept saying over and over again for 2 hours was that he wasnt gonna talk about this drama anymore and that he was going to move on. But he didnt. He kept attacking Xeno and Zepla over and over again while continuing to make excuses for his actions. Im sorry for all the shit hes had to deal with in his life, but as Xeno said we all have gone through shit and most of us dont keep bringing all that bs up when we've done dumb shit. IDK it just seems like Pyro is full of shit.
I was forced to click this because you put Pyromancer in the title.
As someone who has had ADHD diagnosed since I was single digit age, and been apart of multiple therapy groups; BEING AN ASS IS NOT A SYMPTOM.
ADHD is impulsiveness, not being able to focus or organize, some cases even getting frustrated easily, etc. If your impulse is to snap in a negative manner, ADHD caused the impulse, being the ass is on you.
Ive had ADHD all my life and it actually become more of a problem as ive gotten older. My problems have more to do with attentiveness and lack of focus. And it is a real fucking challenge. It definitely has a huge impact on my life so i do blame things on it a lot. But heres how i look at it. Doesnt matter how much i complain, it wont do anything about it. So i gotta deal with it. Its part of who i am and all i can really do is take responsibility for all of my actions.
He was striking ginger prime. Ginger tried to be reasonable. Imo fuck Pyro
I'm younger than xeno by only slightly. Back when I was a kid, this diagnosis mania was just starting out.
I was hyperactive as fuck, naturally aggressive and an all around hell child. My dad's a medical doctor and one of his psychiatrist friends tried to diagnose me with ADHD. Then issue me a "mild" medication.
I took it for a day and promptly turned into a goddamn zombie, my mother's words translates from Turkish.
So my dad immediately took me off the med, got me into kids basketball and started training me physically himself outside.
That ADHD diagnosis was severe by today's standards. And I.... Outgrew it. My father taught me the skills to manage my anger, my basketball coaches taught me how to focus energy and aggression into productive action.
Psychologists and psychiatrists have a confirmation bias. Most kids diagnosed by ADHD will effing outgrow it.
Stop using the freaking diagnosis as a crutch. No, you do not have ADHD, only a small percentage of adults have actual crippling ADHD. Because actual crippling ADHD is so bad, you would not be able to be a streamer.
What you have is a chronic case of being an asshole.
And this goes out to not just Pyro but anyone who uses a childhood diagnosis to justify being an asshole the rest of their lives.
Much love,
- An asshole that at least has some self awareness
I was also misdiagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid. I don't remember what the medication was but it gave me really bad headaches so my parents stopped pretty quickly.
My current roommate does have legitimate, medically diagnosed ADHD and bipolar disorder and it's very noticeable, and much different from the usual self-diagnosis you usually see from somebody who just has a short attention span. And even then, he doesn't use those conditions as an excuse to be an asshole to people. I know he feels the urge to, since we talk about stuff like that as roommates, but he's an adult and he knows how to control himself.
The way he looks at literally everything around the room EXCEPT the fucking camera kills me man KEKL
Yeah man I have Dysregulation too. That’s why you DO THE WORK. Use Distress Management Skills. He’s in treatment; he knows the them. It’s not mental health, it’s his crappy personality.
By the end of the video it sounded like HE was owed an apology by US. Just wow.
He's blaming other people for how they react to his behavior, which is a huge red flag to me. It's a big thing for manipulative personalities. "Yeah I did that thing to you but you're supposed to be more understanding and tolerate it because of X, Y, and Z."
Yea, it's the games fault. The game the teaches you to harness your inner strength and do the right thing no matter what life throws at you. That game
Pyro lamenting having ADHD like he’s got terminal cancer or something.
Incredible take honestly. People are responsible for how their actions and behaviors affect others. Feelings are valid but we live in a world with other humans. As a recovering drug addict, you’re absolutely right. Ty for being real strummer kisses
You eating your lunch during this shows just how seriously we all take Pyromancer.
Look up the definition of a covert narcissist 'cause this dude is IT.
"Some situations that might trigger a covert narcissist include: Being ignored, feeling disrespected, threats to their ego, feelings of shame, being around high-status people, feeling less attractive or less educated that others, having less of something that others, not getting the attention they deserve, jealousy, lack of control."
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I have Multiple Sclerosis, and it feels like like you're getting stabbed in the brain with a kitchen knife continuously through most days. On top of continuously getting worse the rest of my life, shit like "I'm sad sometimes, pity me" just feels so fucking obnoxious.
As a person with strong adhd, he is definitely describing things in an accurate manner, but it is never an excuse.
Took me 4 tries to finish this video. This guy was using racism to win Internet points but he doesn't understand why Xeno is popular. Xeno earned his supporters, subscribers and fans. This guy was gambled and lost and now he's on 100% damage control.
Ill throw my weight in to help xeem with the algo. I have anxiety/depression and i really feel for taylor honestly it's true that issues like that make you act up but it really is 100% on him that he acts the way he does. Taking responsibility means being able to deal with your difficulties. If being an online guy puts him in such a bad spot, he needs to figure out how to deal with it in a healthy way, or remove himself from the situation entirely. Honestly want the best for him, but this ain't it. Kissies!
IM DOING MY PART FOR 100K VIEWS UWU GIVE ME KISSIES STRUMMER
I'm doing my part!
I dont know who this pyromancer guy is, but I have ADHD as well. You are still in control of your actions, ADHD doesnt MAKE you say outlandish things.
Outlandish things pop up in my brain everyday but its my choice to act on my bullshit or not
I've had ADHD most all my life and listening to Pyro "There's no misunderstanding a bad take" Mancer bitch and moan when people call his take bad and then blame it on his own ADHD is really fucking frustrating, so watching you call him on that bullshit was immensely satisfying. Good ract.
Pyro always pulls this "aw shucks" shit and it's just so clearly a put-on for when people get mad at him because he flipped out. If you've ever watched like 10 minutes of his streams, you'll see that he's just constantly on edge and sniping at people.
I have depression, anxiety (those run in my family) and I have ADD (not exactly ADHD but it's similar) and I make it a point to not ever directly blame those for my actions or inactions. At most I will explain that a task was difficult because I was distracted or something along those lines but I never use my mental illness as an excuse or a crutch. I am actually disgusted by people who do use it in that way because so many use it so prevalently that it's seriousness has been watered down and people are capable of being better than that.
As someone who has a lot of issues stemming from ADHD, lashing out at people for not giving me money is not one of them. It's a manageable disorder, and it just seems like he's unwilling to take the steps needed to manage them.
saw Pyros name and clicked, didn't even care what it was about. I'm always happy to watch a video from Pyro without giving him the view, better form of piracy than adblock.
If he believes his own shit then someone did him a crazy disservice telling him he cant do anything to manage his problems. By his logic, we're all just lumbering sacks of our own trauma and experiences, being led about by the whims of our own emotions and triggers. Basically everything sucks but it's no ones fault. Which is just not true. There are plenty of people with more shit than him who deal with it way better. There are plenty of people with less shit than him who are way worse. It's all in what you do with it. You can have no experience with his issues and still look at what he's doing and say it is fucked and he needs to be better if he wants to be a successful public figure. That's not cold or showing a lack of understanding. It's just fact.
The whole train here was a mess and he bounces from putting the blame on things and other people. I think Xeems put it well. I mainly watched this for Lord Baldicante’s react. Pyro just needs to stop.
As someone with ADHD, rejection sensitive dysphoria is a real thing. It doesn't affect everyone with ADHD, but it is absolutely a thing and there is psychological research on it. People with RSD tend to feel negative feedback and abuse more strongly than a neurotypical person might. That said; even if you lash out at someone without thinking; you have to acknowledge it and try to do better. Also, it isn't an excuse to say shitty, egotistical things to people online.