@@Namsui a couple weeks of not running and some new shoes and it was gone. Think I got it from over use and using the same shoe everyday so if you either rotate shoes or take days off it shouldn’t come back
I struggled with a metatarsal stress fracture all of 2020 on and off and no matter how gradually I built up mileage it kept coming back. Started doing 50% of my runs on grass or gravel and it hasn’t been back in 6 weeks and am back to where I was at the start of 2020! Just got to be really careful with it and run EASY. Also found a way to see if it is a stress fracture here is pulling each individual toe back slightly and if it causes pain then it is a stress fracture in the metatarsal
I agree with what someone else had mentioned, the On Cloudflow I believe was the main factor the main factor in my plantar fasciitis I developed. Shoes are such an individual specific issue and its hard to say what will and wont work for someone. But I will say I think the Ons are very comfortable and cushioned, but most models do not have much rigidity (you can bend the shoe in half with almost no effort) and this means not much support for your arch so you will be absorbing that rather than the shoe. After a period of recovery I had switched to New Balances models that had more rigidity and have been running longer mileage with more constancy for over a year now with none of the issues I had when wearing several On models.
Oh man, what a timely video (even though I’m 9 months late). I just developed athlete’s foot, plantar faciitis, tendonitis on top of my foot, also a bunion, all in my left foot. I assume it was a combination of increased distance and worn out shoes as the main culprit. The athletes foot came from the pool. Reduced running, stretches and my new Brooks Ghost 14 will be here tomorrow should help. I just reached olympic distances in all disciplines so I need to stay at those distances for a while.
Thanks for the nice rundown! I had two injuries over the past year and this video was nice to see. Plantar Fasciitis - The temporary sharp stabbing pain in the mornings is real; I thought I could train through since pain went away after walking around in the morning for a few minutes but it definitely prolonged the injury. I had to stop running for about 3 months or so to let it fully heal. The next/current injury is fifth metatarsal fracture after a half marathon. It was sharp pain on the outside midfoot every time I would walk or sometimes even stand. I was just pushing very hard through the race and didn't care much about my form during the race, which I think lead to my injury. I also increased my weekly mileage a bit too fast I think, which served as another trigger.
Shoes make all the difference for me. I cannot wear On Cloudflow shoes. After using them for a couple of weeks, not only did I get bone bruises in both feet, I also got a stress fracture in my left foot. What was the issue then? Well my primary landing spot while wearing those shoes just happens to be in-between the "cloud pods". There is zero cushion between the pods. So every single step it was like running in shoes without any outsole, just hard plastic. Total number of miles in the shoes, 37 miles. Sometimes shoes just do not work for you, find what you like and what works for you and stick with them.
I had stubborn plantar fasciitis training for a spring marathon in 2018. Then, I changed my shoes, started rotating pairs and added variety to my running routes and terrain. I recovered fairly quickly and haven’t had it since, despite training for an additional 3 Marathons after that point.
I'm still suffering from plantar fasciitis since august 2020. I've tried literally everything in a conservative sense but nothing really helped. I've also read that the healing process can take up to one year.
@@mija7499 same and the worse part that they told me that i have flat feet first degree too even though they don’t look flat . If you don’t mind me asking how are you now ?
@@michaelscofield5483 When I wrote the comment and suffered from that plantar fasciitis I started into long distance running. Before that my distances never exceeded 30 kms. Plus, in retrospective I am sure that the plantar fasciitis was a result of a military selection course where I marched with a heavy backpack for several days. It took my p.fasciitis over a year to fully recover from that. In the first weeks of the "issue" I didn't even do any longer runs however I noticed on a long run that, after some time, the pain was gone. But it returned as soon as I sat back and relaxed from that test run. So I realized that specific running doesn't really cause more harm. From mid 2021 until last week I ran thousands of kilometers in total and many ultras and I am more or less pain-free. The p.f. sometimes reminds me of being alive but it's nothing serious. And I never strech 😄 Interestingly, considering your comment , I had to exit another army selection course today morning because I couldn't barely walk anymore due to horrific pain with my p.fasciitis on both legs. Again, it was the heavy backpack and gear in combination with days of marching through difficult terrain. It's frustrating. However I now know that I don't face problems when running ultra distances but only when marching/hiking for hours/days with heavy equipment. My advice, identify and avoid triggers but don't dispense on sport. Good luck
Broke my 4th toe a few years ago. Doc suggested a full boot and I thought he was nuts. So glad I followed his suggestion; it healed completely and quickly. I’ve come across so many people since then who tried to just splint it themselves and have nagging issues that never resolve.
Thank you so much for the vid! I had bought the HOKA mach 6 and it's a great shoe, but the support wasn't there for me. I started feeling pain when running distance. Didn't listen to my foot and now i'm out for a couple weeks. Need a different daily/distance shoe.
Thank you so much for this video, really helpful! So far i've been able to avoid injuries on the foot, but have had to take a break from running due to knee pain - do you have remedies in order to prevent that?
I think it would have been relevant to mention the other school of thoughts regarding footwares - barefoot or minimalist footware. There are definitely research that hint at the fact that some foot injuries may actually be cause by weak foot structures, to which to MUCH support for the foot all the time seems to be contributing. Anecdotal, but that seems to be my case personally - I had been running in stuff like the Gel Cumulus for years and tended to hav regular issues popping on & going away.... I switched to more moderate level of support, and included a portion of minimalist shoes and barefoot running (~1/4 of my volume, at recovery/endurance paces). After a year stopped having any issues. After all, if part of the remedy is going to be strenghtening anyways (e.g. calf raises & such), then... wouldn't the logical conclusion be to try to include some of that strenghtening directly in the run, as opposed to try to remove even more of it with orthopedics/cushionned shoes?
Another bit of anecdotal evidence to help your point. I started out in maximal shoes (asics beast 11 or something?) because of my bad running form, I suffered through 6 months of plantar fasciitis only 3 months of running and 3 months to recover. I switched to minimal shoes (Xero Shoes) and immediately realized what I was doing wrong. I had to get used to the new form of running.... but then I was getting blisters on the balls of my feet. I've since discovered that I was still overstriding and pulling myself over my foot instead of pushing off of my foot. No one told me that running should be the same basic action as high speed elliptical. Push back with the glute, keep the hips level, and VERY LITTLE bounce. Lastly, strength training on the go does work long-term, but if you're just getting into running it makes more sense to get your calves/glutes/core(obliques, abs, lower back and hip flexors) up to the task, and then use additional miles to condition them to the specific task of running. I have been running in minimal Xeroshoes (HFS is best, Sandals are good, speedforce is a bit too minimal for me, prio is great and currently running in their boots) for the last 2 years and have had no foot/lower leg injuries. I'm going to be attempting to switch to Maximal shoes again to see if it was the shoe before causing the plantar fasciitis or if it was my bad form. You'll probably never get the result of this test - but it's definitely a thing I'm going to try! Very good advice overall though IogicOnAbstractions
@@Unthwartable Yeah interesting story as well. The point you mention is pretty relevent about making our mistakes in running form more obvious - it's just really hard to land far forward on the heels with minimal shoes. And I think I also "feel" the ground better. I still use more cushionned shoes for heavy trails runs, and if I go for 60 minutes + that being said. Didn't know about Xeroshoes will check them out.
I, like others in the comments, just started running with On Cloudflows and developed pain I've never felt on the outer sides of both feet, just in front of the heel. My knee issue from before popped up earlier than at my usual mileage. Need to find better shoes..
Plantar fasciitis for me and 2 factors led to this - 1 increased the frequency and intensity of my training - 2 old trainers I’ve learned this and will always use decent new trainers and sole support as I’m also flat footed
Question! Recently purchased an updated model of a favorite running shoe and have symptoms of tendonitis. Should I consider returning the shoe? Will they break in?
How about pain at the top of the foot, around the middle area? I just experienced it on the right foot last week thursday, rested it for 5 days but when i ran again last tuesday, there's still some pain and i felt so frustrated as i just walked 5K instead. I can hop on that right foot without pain though. I even continued with weight training last friday and this monday, doing squats, deadlift, walking lunges, box jumps without pain. I did start to try ramping up my activity, doing some speed work the last 2-3 weeks. Just returned to running last June. I plan to rest two weeks at least, and maybe just go cycling, but i'll observe the foot if there'll be some pain especially when off the saddle.
I have dull pain top of foot close to ankle, its been two weeks with no running but seems not much improvement. Are there some stretching i could do to speed recovery ?
is it plantar fasciitis if the bottom of my foot hurts after around 7-8kms, im just a newbie runner and 95Kgs. it feels like having blisters if i continue, i don't know how to search for prevention since all the results points to plantar fasciitis
Ride bikes if you get injured, it's more fun anyways. I'm currently doing so currently after metatarsal injury I also ran a marathon on. I'm taking a lot of time off.
I don't run that often (like once every week but not that much), i usually wear crocs and after just 1 minute of jogging, i get like a minor pain around my ankles even though it doesn't have any injury. Is it because I dont run often? And if I slow down, the pain goes away, but it comes back everytime I try to jog.
I always have pain in my left hip while and after running. When playing basketball, I haven’t had it before. Now everytime I run, the pain appears, no idea why? I stretch and take plenty off rest. How can I solve this? Thanks
i think i have 2 problems the first one is the worst i always run in pe like around the stadium and i feel like this sort of tearing in the middle of my foot and it hurts soooo much the second one is that everytime im walking it feels like my foot is on an angle so that the side of my foot on the ground like it hurts like i pounded my seide of the foot on the ground pls SOMEONE HELP I CANT CARRY ON LIKE THIS
The narration is very informational but the visuals are too much stock running videos. Hope there are more demo or visual representation of what he is explaining.
I used to be 320 pounds and I mostly lost weight though diet and getting a more active job “warehouse”. I have platoed and 260 pounds and I would like to run more but my right foot hurts like hell when I try. I feel like my foot hurts because I’m too heavy and my attempts at not being heavy are almost impossible because of the pain. I’m not really sure what to do.
Have you had a foot injury in the past? How did you recover from it? Let us know 👇
Ankle pain, i just paused a day
Peroneal tendonitis. Havent recovered yet, but went back to stable shoes and taking a long break from running.
Plantar Fasciitis. Not fun at all. After months trying everything else, a course of steroids did the trick.
Don’t forget mortons neuroma. I’m currently recovering from this and it’s a slow process. Changing shoes/insoles has helped
Plantar Fasciitis, some rest then strengthening with mountain climbers (found MCs were the right mix of weight, mobility and dynamic).
Just got foot pain the other day having to stop my daily running streak today just the video I needed!
@@Namsui a couple weeks of not running and some new shoes and it was gone. Think I got it from over use and using the same shoe everyday so if you either rotate shoes or take days off it shouldn’t come back
That's what I was looking for 🙌🏻
Thanks for such helpful content GTN. More power to you guys. Even in pandemic, you gave us such good videos about running. 😊👍
I struggled with a metatarsal stress fracture all of 2020 on and off and no matter how gradually I built up mileage it kept coming back. Started doing 50% of my runs on grass or gravel and it hasn’t been back in 6 weeks and am back to where I was at the start of 2020! Just got to be really careful with it and run EASY. Also found a way to see if it is a stress fracture here is pulling each individual toe back slightly and if it causes pain then it is a stress fracture in the metatarsal
Same omg! What is so weird is that i loved the regular cloud shoes... glad it’s not just me!
I agree with what someone else had mentioned, the On Cloudflow I believe was the main factor the main factor in my plantar fasciitis I developed. Shoes are such an individual specific issue and its hard to say what will and wont work for someone. But I will say I think the Ons are very comfortable and cushioned, but most models do not have much rigidity (you can bend the shoe in half with almost no effort) and this means not much support for your arch so you will be absorbing that rather than the shoe. After a period of recovery I had switched to New Balances models that had more rigidity and have been running longer mileage with more constancy for over a year now with none of the issues I had when wearing several On models.
Dealing with an injury right now and taking a few weeks off. Really feel like I'm struggling - not being out on the road.
Oh man, what a timely video (even though I’m 9 months late). I just developed athlete’s foot, plantar faciitis, tendonitis on top of my foot, also a bunion, all in my left foot. I assume it was a combination of increased distance and worn out shoes as the main culprit. The athletes foot came from the pool. Reduced running, stretches and my new Brooks Ghost 14 will be here tomorrow should help. I just reached olympic distances in all disciplines so I need to stay at those distances for a while.
I've always had aches and pains in my feet and I feel like running takes away the ache. I feel if I did get an injury, I might not know 🙊
Kinda relatable
Thanks for the nice rundown! I had two injuries over the past year and this video was nice to see.
Plantar Fasciitis - The temporary sharp stabbing pain in the mornings is real; I thought I could train through since pain went away after walking around in the morning for a few minutes but it definitely prolonged the injury. I had to stop running for about 3 months or so to let it fully heal.
The next/current injury is fifth metatarsal fracture after a half marathon. It was sharp pain on the outside midfoot every time I would walk or sometimes even stand. I was just pushing very hard through the race and didn't care much about my form during the race, which I think lead to my injury. I also increased my weekly mileage a bit too fast I think, which served as another trigger.
Really helpful... this is what i need to know now.
Right on time! Thank you so much!
this video is packed with very useful information so thank you very much.
for me its clearly because i started running daily
Shoes make all the difference for me. I cannot wear On Cloudflow shoes. After using them for a couple of weeks, not only did I get bone bruises in both feet, I also got a stress fracture in my left foot. What was the issue then? Well my primary landing spot while wearing those shoes just happens to be in-between the "cloud pods". There is zero cushion between the pods. So every single step it was like running in shoes without any outsole, just hard plastic. Total number of miles in the shoes, 37 miles. Sometimes shoes just do not work for you, find what you like and what works for you and stick with them.
Very helpful I have now figured out what I have
I had stubborn plantar fasciitis training for a spring marathon in 2018. Then, I changed my shoes, started rotating pairs and added variety to my running routes and terrain. I recovered fairly quickly and haven’t had it since, despite training for an additional 3 Marathons after that point.
I'm still suffering from plantar fasciitis since august 2020. I've tried literally everything in a conservative sense but nothing really helped. I've also read that the healing process can take up to one year.
@@mija7499 same and the worse part that they told me that i have flat feet first degree too even though they don’t look flat . If you don’t mind me asking how are you now ?
@@michaelscofield5483 When I wrote the comment and suffered from that plantar fasciitis I started into long distance running. Before that my distances never exceeded 30 kms. Plus, in retrospective I am sure that the plantar fasciitis was a result of a military selection course where I marched with a heavy backpack for several days. It took my p.fasciitis over a year to fully recover from that. In the first weeks of the "issue" I didn't even do any longer runs however I noticed on a long run that, after some time, the pain was gone. But it returned as soon as I sat back and relaxed from that test run. So I realized that specific running doesn't really cause more harm. From mid 2021 until last week I ran thousands of kilometers in total and many ultras and I am more or less pain-free. The p.f. sometimes reminds me of being alive but it's nothing serious. And I never strech 😄
Interestingly, considering your comment , I had to exit another army selection course today morning because I couldn't barely walk anymore due to horrific pain with my p.fasciitis on both legs. Again, it was the heavy backpack and gear in combination with days of marching through difficult terrain. It's frustrating. However I now know that I don't face problems when running ultra distances but only when marching/hiking for hours/days with heavy equipment.
My advice, identify and avoid triggers but don't dispense on sport. Good luck
@@mija7499 that’s an interesting story. Thanks for responding and good luck to you too
Any thoughts on toe pain across both feet?
Great video guys! Super helpful, thanks.
Broke my 4th toe a few years ago. Doc suggested a full boot and I thought he was nuts. So glad I followed his suggestion; it healed completely and quickly. I’ve come across so many people since then who tried to just splint it themselves and have nagging issues that never resolve.
Thank you so much for the vid! I had bought the HOKA mach 6 and it's a great shoe, but the support wasn't there for me. I started feeling pain when running distance. Didn't listen to my foot and now i'm out for a couple weeks. Need a different daily/distance shoe.
Very helpful, thanks 👍😀
Thank you so much for this video, really helpful! So far i've been able to avoid injuries on the foot, but have had to take a break from running due to knee pain - do you have remedies in order to prevent that?
Similar protocol. Ice, rest and exercise to strengthen the knee according to the problem. Been there. Plenty of good resources in YT.
Thank you, helped alot
Many thanks for advice Mark.
Will give it a week and see if my heel is still hurty then if it is I’ll book in with Cornwall physio :)
That is really very good videos thank you for that.
I think it would have been relevant to mention the other school of thoughts regarding footwares - barefoot or minimalist footware.
There are definitely research that hint at the fact that some foot injuries may actually be cause by weak foot structures, to which to MUCH support for the foot all the time seems to be contributing. Anecdotal, but that seems to be my case personally - I had been running in stuff like the Gel Cumulus for years and tended to hav regular issues popping on & going away.... I switched to more moderate level of support, and included a portion of minimalist shoes and barefoot running (~1/4 of my volume, at recovery/endurance paces). After a year stopped having any issues.
After all, if part of the remedy is going to be strenghtening anyways (e.g. calf raises & such), then... wouldn't the logical conclusion be to try to include some of that strenghtening directly in the run, as opposed to try to remove even more of it with orthopedics/cushionned shoes?
Another bit of anecdotal evidence to help your point. I started out in maximal shoes (asics beast 11 or something?) because of my bad running form, I suffered through 6 months of plantar fasciitis only 3 months of running and 3 months to recover.
I switched to minimal shoes (Xero Shoes) and immediately realized what I was doing wrong. I had to get used to the new form of running.... but then I was getting blisters on the balls of my feet. I've since discovered that I was still overstriding and pulling myself over my foot instead of pushing off of my foot. No one told me that running should be the same basic action as high speed elliptical. Push back with the glute, keep the hips level, and VERY LITTLE bounce.
Lastly, strength training on the go does work long-term, but if you're just getting into running it makes more sense to get your calves/glutes/core(obliques, abs, lower back and hip flexors) up to the task, and then use additional miles to condition them to the specific task of running.
I have been running in minimal Xeroshoes (HFS is best, Sandals are good, speedforce is a bit too minimal for me, prio is great and currently running in their boots) for the last 2 years and have had no foot/lower leg injuries. I'm going to be attempting to switch to Maximal shoes again to see if it was the shoe before causing the plantar fasciitis or if it was my bad form. You'll probably never get the result of this test - but it's definitely a thing I'm going to try!
Very good advice overall though IogicOnAbstractions
@@Unthwartable Yeah interesting story as well. The point you mention is pretty relevent about making our mistakes in running form more obvious - it's just really hard to land far forward on the heels with minimal shoes. And I think I also "feel" the ground better.
I still use more cushionned shoes for heavy trails runs, and if I go for 60 minutes + that being said. Didn't know about Xeroshoes will check them out.
I, like others in the comments, just started running with On Cloudflows and developed pain I've never felt on the outer sides of both feet, just in front of the heel. My knee issue from before popped up earlier than at my usual mileage. Need to find better shoes..
For the price, I'm a big fan of the Relaxe Shiatsu Foot Massager
Plantar fasciitis for me and 2 factors led to this - 1 increased the frequency and intensity of my training - 2 old trainers
I’ve learned this and will always use decent new trainers and sole support as I’m also flat footed
I find any shoe with an arch gives me pain. Try taking the insole out or go with a minimalist shoe, they can always help.
Question! Recently purchased an updated model of a favorite running shoe and have symptoms of tendonitis. Should I consider returning the shoe? Will they break in?
It would be nice if you show the pictures of injured areas
I have got pain at the top and arch of the foot, especially when pointing the toes or when doing up dog. May be due to new shoes.
My feet hurt of when I do exercise
How about pain at the top of the foot, around the middle area? I just experienced it on the right foot last week thursday, rested it for 5 days but when i ran again last tuesday, there's still some pain and i felt so frustrated as i just walked 5K instead. I can hop on that right foot without pain though. I even continued with weight training last friday and this monday, doing squats, deadlift, walking lunges, box jumps without pain. I did start to try ramping up my activity, doing some speed work the last 2-3 weeks. Just returned to running last June. I plan to rest two weeks at least, and maybe just go cycling, but i'll observe the foot if there'll be some pain especially when off the saddle.
Yeah my pain is at the bottom of the heel on my left foot..
I have dull pain top of foot close to ankle, its been two weeks with no running but seems not much improvement. Are there some stretching i could do to speed recovery ?
is it plantar fasciitis if the bottom of my foot hurts after around 7-8kms, im just a newbie runner and 95Kgs. it feels like having blisters if i continue, i don't know how to search for prevention since all the results points to plantar fasciitis
Ride bikes if you get injured, it's more fun anyways.
I'm currently doing so currently after metatarsal injury I also ran a marathon on.
I'm taking a lot of time off.
if you have Planter Faticisis any tips to reduce the pain please I want to join the navy seals but this will hold me back
You said your tendinitis took quite awhile to heal. How long is quite awhile 😂 I have the same issue with the top of my foot.
I just did my first 3k without stopping and looks like I'm out for a few weeks. Noooo
Where can I find the Relaxe foot massager
I have to say, Relaxe Shiatsu Foot Massagers are easily the best, nothing really compares
I don't run that often (like once every week but not that much), i usually wear crocs and after just 1 minute of jogging, i get like a minor pain around my ankles even though it doesn't have any injury. Is it because I dont run often? And if I slow down, the pain goes away, but it comes back everytime I try to jog.
I am experiencing the same thing, but can't find anything online that fits this
I always have pain in my left hip while and after running. When playing basketball, I haven’t had it before. Now everytime I run, the pain appears, no idea why? I stretch and take plenty off rest.
How can I solve this?
Thanks
these pains are a pain in the ass. specifically the foot pain in the center...
I agree, I think Relaxe is the best kept secret lmao
Relaxe Foot Massagers > this list
Me running with plantar fasciitis for almost 2 years 😃
I ran a 100m and after the run i felt pain in balls of the foot, it heals but if i run again it continues
i think i have 2 problems the first one is the worst i always run in pe like around the stadium and i feel like this sort of tearing in the middle of my foot and it hurts soooo much the second one is that everytime im walking it feels like my foot is on an angle so that the side of my foot on the ground like it hurts like i pounded my seide of the foot on the ground pls SOMEONE HELP I CANT CARRY ON LIKE THIS
Where is Relaxe?
Graphics would help.
The narration is very informational but the visuals are too much stock running videos. Hope there are more demo or visual representation of what he is explaining.
Anyone know where I can get a good foot massager
Relaxe is likely your best bet if you’re still dealing with this
Ill be starting military bootcamp soon so inrlly hope this oain goes away by then
If you want foot pain relief, Relaxe is your best bet
Anyone know where I can get a good foot massager ()
unhealthily fast
I think its bc im flat foot and im not wearing the right shoes
Can't even play basketball no more 😭
I used to be 320 pounds and I mostly lost weight though diet and getting a more active job “warehouse”. I have platoed and 260 pounds and I would like to run more but my right foot hurts like hell when I try. I feel like my foot hurts because I’m too heavy and my attempts at not being heavy are almost impossible because of the pain. I’m not really sure what to do.
ON clouds are probably some of the worst running shoes out there. Switch it up and your feet will thank you
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i searched for how to make my feet not hurt going thorugh a monitor i didnt search for this bad content
Nothing about the top of foot
None of these are that good lmao
True, these tutorials are bs, you just need to be lucky lol