ZUN's most repeated melody!
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2013
- You thought "Theme of Eastern Story" was ZUN's most used melody? Wrong!
This is basically something I noticed while I was listening to the music of Touhou, so I basically decided to make a video of it. I was quite surprised, to be brutally honest with you. I mean, I actually listen to ZUN's music a lot and I never noticed this until now.
So yeah, this video is essentially a compilation of some of ZUN's themes that pretty much share the same leitmotif, along with some bonus tracks which are themes from Touhou fangames and non-Touhou games, not composed by ZUN of course.
Enjoy!
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Hey there guys!
This is completely unrelated to what this video is about, but here's something that may be of your interest:
Recently, I've uploaded a video of a Touhou-like engine I've been developing using GameMaker ever since it became free to use. With that said, after 3 months of work, I've got something that very closely resembles the gameplay of the original games. So yeah, if you guys are interested to see it, go check it out here!
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Looking forward to see what do you guys think of it.
Damn, an update from a 10 YEAR OLD VIDEO. This is probably the very first time I've seen such a thing.
Well... considering that this is one of my most viewed videos, I thought it'd be fine to get the viewers' attention with something I've been cooking up recently.
legend
Have... *HAVE I BEEN MISLED TO BELIEVE 'THEME OF EASTERN STORY' WAS TOUHOU'S MAIN THEME ALL THIS TIME?!*
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@バナニーナ! >also used in PCB, SA, and most ZUN albums anyway
Uh... ^^"
Here's one song that uses this leitmotif that I legitimately feel like nobody except me noticed it. This motif was used in Pandemonic Planet, right after the intro.
The thing is, the leitmotif isn't just a straight copy of all the other uses of it, it's actually inverted. I don't know why Zun did this, but I can't tell if I should be surprised nobody has noticed it.
I really felt something weird when I heard it to but didn't expect it to be like that.
nice catch
Bell of Avici at 9:12 uses both the normal motif and the inverted version.
@@Kromiball Oh wow, I think I hear it. Thank you for pointing that out!
I think it’s also in doll judgement from
PCB in the intro specifically
It's called a Leitmotif, kids. I-it's a thing. In music. Especially music that's part of a story or play.
i always love to tell people about leitmotifs; its cool to tell them then they can tell just what themes are repeated and it blows their minds
lol I think you give zun too much credit
@@basedmod2139 oh no, zun deserves all the credit
Wait wtf it's called Leitmotif in english??
"I-its a thing"
Why you gotta frame it as common sense
How could you forget Sakuya's theme? It is pretty much everywhere in the entire main melody >_>
explane to me?
@@Fishnberg This constant/repetitive-like melody is used quite a bit in Sakuya's theme in Touhou EoSD. The part where the song changes to a 3/4 time signature.
@@hyperslayer7338 I see, thanks alot!
@@FishnbergNo problem!
Bro thanked hyper slayer 3 years later@@Fishnberg
00:00 Eastern Demon-Sealing Record ~ Pure Land Mandala
00:30 A Dream Transcending Space-Time
00:49 Maniacal Princess
02:05 Bad Apple!! (Touhou 4: Lotus Land Story)
02:25 Cute Devil ~ Innocence
03:01 Those Who Live in Illusions
03:23 Wondrous Romance ~ Mystic Square
03:32 Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being
03:49 Shinto Shrine
04:06 Mystic Dream (Touhou 5: Mystic Square)
04:33 Illusionary girl from Canaveral
04:41 Magical Girl's Crusade
04:51 Fantasy Science ~ Doll's Phantom
05:09 Girl's Divinity ~ Pandora's Box
05:27 Warrior Maiden ~ Heart of Valkyrie
06:05 Forest of Dolls
07:15 Magical Girl's Crusade (Ghostly Field Club version)
08:09 Boys and Girls of the Age of Science
08:26 Fantasy Machine ~ Phantom Factory
08:53 Heartfelt Fancy
09:11 Bell of Avici ~ Infinite Nightmare
09:34 Humans and Youkai Coming and Going at the Canal
09:55 Elfin Mint's Theme
10:02 Life-Guiding Song ~ Prospect Mirai
10:09 Assholevania
10:36 Sorrowful Requiem (Elemental Master ending theme)
legend
Bad Apple is from Touhou 4
ASS!
This can also be found in "Moskau" by Dschinghis Khan.
Came here looking for this comment.
*The History of Touhou*
Part 1:
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ZUN actually snuck this really sneakily into Pandemonic Planet. You know the part just after the intro? It's an inversion of this melody, it's "upside down"!
_ZUN cannot help but reuse his favorite medleys ever since he made them. He cannot help but love it._
*_And we all love it._*
This melody even shows up in Battle Against a True Hero!
Tbh, that leitmotif is how I know a ZUN track is gonna go hard. It's an amazing build up.
But *WHOSE* leitmotif is it? I wish to know, else how can you call it one when no one knows who it is for?
@@DianeSteele a leitmotif is usually for a specific person, place, or thing. LoL.
Just because it's a repeating pattern doesn't make it a leitmotif. Unless they can assign it to a place or person from touhou, it's nothing more than a repeating chord
Sakuya and Alice in the Windows game love to use this melody.
It makes sense why Alice uses this melody in both her Stage Theme and Boss Theme. We're led to believe that this is the same Alice from the PC-98 Era. As she recognizes Reimu, which shouldn't be possible for people starting with the Windows Era.
So there's a lore reason as to why Alice has this melody in her themes during the Windows Era, which is awesome. Gotta respect ZUN for going all out,
Another Theme that uses this melody is "Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator". Miko's Boss Theme.
Double Dealing Character has at least four themes with the bassline of _Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator_ playing in the background.
Yeah, I've noticed that too.
Nobody talks about how Reincarnation is in Mist Lake...
what what which ones? i havent notice
@ShadowLoli R00mia ua-cam.com/video/bodys69FTEk/v-deo.html It's around here. Doesn't it sound similar to Reincarnation in the build up to the chorus?
Incidentally, Prince Shoutoku spearheaded the revival of worship of both Ookuninushi/Daikoku, known for his medicinal knowledge, and Sukuna Hikona, Shinmyoumaru's ancestor, known for having come from Tokoyo no Kuni and even having returned from death, and promoting them as gods of Kotobuki no Kuni, the Land of Long Life.
Not all of these melodies sound quite the same, and as stated before, Theme of Eastern Story is still used more. That being said, this was still a nice catch. Good ear~
well, they share the same tonal sequence, though. melodies are nothing but a sequence of notes. And those do share said melody. They do have different purposes in different songs, though, gotta give you that.
i keep using this leitmotif in my works too, dunno why but it always goes back to this
i forgot how obsessed ZUN with this tune
ANGRY VIDEO GAME NERD ADVENTURES?
...Huh, I can't believe I didn't notice that ever. That melody does show up everywhere.
recently found this leitmotif in your best nightmare from undertale.
I really like the general bassline as well (for a couple of the songs), That whole-whole-whole-half descending thing. It's a really simple line in many songs but it works so well...
This is a video of all the times that zun has used a variation of an alberti bass. It's a thing in classical music. Listen to Mozart sonata 16 k545 in C or the ending to Super Mario Bros 2 (USA).
its a descending alberti bass, a broken arpeggio, that so far from research i wasn't able to find any names or anything in regards to it;
of course it isn't original from zun, it has been used quite often but both examples you've given don't fall under that category,
mozart's had a basic rendition, SMB2 (USA) had an ascending-descending variation.
i still wonder if this specific form has any sort of nomenclature or the kind given how often it appears
Chinese songs have had it for a long time, iirc Gong Xi Gong Xi is mostly just this melody.
@@jamm6_514yeah, I guess you could just call it a broken chord figure. It's not a melody though-it's an accompaniment pattern
This makes me wonder if it Shoutoku Legend was inspired by this Leitmotif, just on a minor key.
Makes me wonder if it inspired Gengetsu's theme in general. It just seems like one of those themes.
Ik this was like 7 years ago but if you listen or look at the midi to desire drive, it disguised itself in the beginning part it's just spiced up a bit
what about PCB Stage 3?
I hear this in Undertale as well...
I still think Theme of Eastern Story is used more. (I think it's referenced over 20 times) You should add song names on the screen as annotations :D
I would like to add annotations, but I'm really lazy. ^^;
Sadly annotions are gone now
@@roniari9659 RIP annotations
We have chapters now
What about Doll Maker of Bucuresti and Doll Judgement?
well, for the first part i totally agree, but in the sencond meh, :/
i'll try to explain: when u compose u have tocreate notes pattern from 0, but u have to be inspired to do such a thing, however there some basic pattern of notes or tricks if u want to nome them which allows to compose a perfect piece of music without errors, this kind of notes-scheme is taken form Bach and his toccata and fuge and it consist in an alternance of 2 times: 1 note is the same and the 2 changed according to the scale... however lots of ZUN's OST have this alternance descentent for both notes
I've always recognized multiple similarities between his songs but I didn't think about this. Thanks for making this video it's very interesting!
I knew I heard this a LOT. But I mean, this is BAD Apple !! main bassline, so obviously I heard it a lot
Damn, I have never found any music more beautiful than THIS!!
Have you fallen to the Touhou hole yet?
@@mauricestardddude8317 I haven’t played it but yea I love touhou but also I forgot about this song until you commented haha
@@alansartrignotI bet you forgot again.
There's a part of BL1ND JUST1C3: 1NV3ST1G4T1ON (One of Terezi's themes from Homestuck) around the 45-second mark that sounds very similar to this leitmotif.
The yellow soul at the end of undertale also uses this leitmotif xD
ginger Marisa
I think it's on purpose- A sort of proto-Theme of Eastern Story.
You forgott stratovarious - black diamond
Nothing like clav-, I mean ZUNpets.
More like Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor
so basically everyone is gengetsu
In Moskau - dschinghis khan there is a rhythm like this in the Intro, it's called alberti bass, it's a chord technique that comes from classical music.
and the doll maker of bucuresti‼️
I feel proud noticing leitmotifs lmao (listened to too many Touhou originals, arrangements, remixes that I could literally wake up from comma if someone started playing some of my favourite ones xD)
Alright, what is the name, or whose leitmotif is this for/who does it represent & what is the name of it? In order for it to be called a leitmotif it must have this, else it's just a popular zun melody
i always thought that the short little meledy that plays at times in chen's theme sounded a little like flandres theme in a way (around the 1 minute mark). maybe thats on purpose because remilia and flandre are basically the princesses, arent they?
not just ZUN's, I don't remember the name of it, but it's quite prevalent in music ever since baroque times
We've discovered the secret to ZUN's genius.
10:11 was not expecting Avgn!
Im happy im not the only one notice this.
Since i started playing touhou. all music in every game has a special same melody.
I could hear that melody in Some themes I didn't knew it was in like Junkos theme
The am g f e chord progression too cmiiw
you can find this melody in Len'en 2 as well! Stage 4 boss, Hibaru Kokutenshi's theme!
Also Yabusame's theme's in general, I believe. Especially the intro of their theme in Len'en 1
how does zun play music with such a unique style
Sometimes, like the third song, I don't really see it. I think sometimes you might be seeing a pattern in another pattern. But well it's been 10 years, still a good observation back then c:
God, I love Touhou.
You can find this melody in Eternal Shrine Maiden, said to be the ZUN's first.
I Know This Was Posted In 2013 But WBAWC Stage 1 Has The Leitmotif... Again...
What the heck, its even in the AVGN game!?!
This little motif is very similar to 'Devil Speak' from Megami Tensei Ii, the connection between these two series' music is pretty interesting
how the hell did i not notice this
it's funny how from all the soudtracks with the same melody there's not the most obvious ones being the Alice's theme from both her stage and boss fight
いいものを見つけましたよ、ほんと
And here I thought It was the same one as Alice stage's theme In th07 [Doll maker of Bucuresti]
it is, he forgot to add
He did it again with the new games stage 2 boss
wat about lunar clock~luna dial?
It's not a repeated thing.
Dosent Lunar Clock-Luna Dial have the same leitmotif too? That one is so well known im suprised it was left out
Really interesting
OMG. How couldn't I be able to spot SA stage 4 !!
Can someone list down the tracks used in this video?
Does this leitmotif have a name? I've also heard it in quite a few power metal songs, such as "The Martyr" and "Tommyknockers" by Blind Guardian.
Descending Alberti Bass
What about Doll Maker of Bucuresti? The intro for that theme is literally just that melody in different keys.
If you guys mention PCB Stage 3 one more time, I swear to God...
damn this is nice, i want to know more
Man, who would have thought ZUN was the guy behind Black Diamond by Stratovarius?
It would be nice to label the music but pretty neat!
Arabesque - Nights in the Harbour
David Guetta - Dangerous
Dschingis Khan - Moskau
Toby Fox - Terezi's Theme (and a sample in Undertale)
How many others can we think of?
wait until you guys hear Moskau by Dschinghis Khan
Nowadays id argue that theme of eastern story is the most used melody
what the hell i thought that leitmotif was exclusive to bdd apple and doll maker of bucuresti, lmao i made a song based on that leitmotif. i really need to make a new version of it
I was expecting Lunar Clock to be in this video you forgot it lel
It was in Stage 3 Of PCB's BGM as well, you can here it at the start
You're like the 5th person in here(I think, I've genuinely lost count) who pointed that out, and at this point, I'm genuinely getting sick of it, lmao.
@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon ah ok, is that a bad thing? 😭
Not really. I just personally wish people didn't repeat the same thing over and over, but I can't judge them for not reading the comments.
@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon oh ok, I didn't know other people had commented that, sorry I guess
No worries, you're fine.
Wouldn't Kanako's theme count?
I thought it was just me, glad im not crazy!
Touhou 3 theme its literally Lunar Clock
16-step tr sequencer.
zun's favorite melody in a nutshell i guess
Nemuno's theme in HSiFS deserves the place
'Kay? Where's the leitmotif on her theme? Because I don't hear it.
Interesting. Does Bad Apple (the PV, maybe the original as well though) use this?
I heard what I thought I recognized from Bad Apple in Theme of Eastern Story and have spent forever trying to find it.
it's at 2:10 lmao
@@nostalplant Thanks!
Why wondrous romance's opening bass melody is cool
DJ Shadow - Organ Donor
Based zun
Reminds me of the song "MOSKAU " by the german band Dschingis Khan
Isn't this used in The Doll Maker of Bucuresti also?
Yeah, I forgot to add that one, I apologize.
Also, other songs that I forgot to add in this video include _Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When?_, _Onigashima in the Fairyland ~ Missing Power_, _Legend of Aokigahara_ and _Futatsuiwa from Gensokyo_.
Hiroari shoots a strange bird
Kinda, but i think Toes repeated the most
8:53
MEOW~
You forgot The Doll Maker of Bucuresti too !
What about the build-up that Koishi, Wakasagihime, Mayumi, and Momoyo all share?
They have a build-up, but none of them sound similar. Also, I made this video before WBaWC and UM existed.
Is there a tracklist?
Tocata in d minor bach?
I wonder if ZUN was influenced by J.S. Bach?
hey could you list all the ost names? please
最終的にNerdになるのほんと草
This sounds a lot like poison mind
All artist have some constant that shows up in most of their music. But I like when artist like Zun use it sparingly but do it enough that when heard by close listeners, it becomes the thing that is known for defining their sound.
When many of us hear Touhou music, its safe to imagine that there is some dance hall with the many characters across each game dancing to some oh the upbeat tracks while Zun and some other backup musicians (maybe, Rinnousuke and Myorin or the Prism River Sisters) rock out on stage.
-Edit-
Mmmm or perhaps Raiko or even Benben. Yeah let’s just reduce male characters as bartenders serving sake that causes oni fights to break out. It’ll give Aya something to report the next day.
i call it Gengetsu Leitmotif