he smashed a tv with a chair ...and i thought i couldnt love him more amorims genius he has fans he has leverage ...shape up or ship out. wearing united jersey isnt an accomplishment its winning in that jersey
@@maximumdesigns01 were they spitting on it a year an a half ago when they won 23 games, the League Cup and got back in the CL? it much of the same players , right?
Good vibe on this podcast. I still believe in Hojlund, he’s only 21 and still been very good in Europe for us over the last 2 seasons. Can’t discredit that
He is too limited in general play, pinning CB's offers nothing to the build up of play. He needs to ability to drop and create space behind him (although i am not sure this formation creates forward runners). He should also study Harry Kane and his timing into the box, Kane is always making late runs, never just sits in the box waiting for crosses, that's too easy for defenders.
I feel like United is one of the few clubs in the world who could survive for as long as it has, with they way it has been run over the past two decades.
Amorin must be backed. I totally agree with him about our team. Their reactions to his statement will sort the wheat from the chaff. Imo he made the statement for just that reason.
I swear I would let Amorim do whatever he wants as long as we don’t get relegated. Say anything about any player slag them off fuk them off etc. we need standards
I like Amorim’s formation/system, but I would invert the front 3 so it was a number 10 behind two “strikers”. It would mean Bruno central again as a 10 and Amad and Højlund could play as a pair of wide-ish strikers. It would also reopen the door to Rashford
Browsing through these comments and deary me, I have lost brain cells. Some of you calling for Amorims head haven't a clue. It's a pity it was just the television that was smashed in the dressing room. Player power has been a subject amongst fans for many years post Fergie. How do you eradicate that? Show them who calls the shots, even if it means lashing out, which was completely justified. We haven't got the correct profile of players yet to see the potential fruits of Amorims system. Look at the state of what he has inherited! A lot of good will come from this. It will take time, but we desperately need to offload mentally fringe players who aren't willing to put the effort in. If that starts with Garnacho leaving, happy days! Fans need to learn how to read between the lines and apply a bit of critical thinking. So many people take an agenda and run blindly with it without any thought. I support Amorim.
The difference against Brighton is the pressure. We're expected to dominate, so the players are tense and afraid to make mistakes. Against Liverpool, there's a freedom to express themselves because the expectation is lower. This fear of failure against teams like Brighton is crippling us.
I'm surprised how few United fans see that it'sall psychological. De Ligt is known to be calm in possession but on Sunday with options in front of him, he panics and passes back to Onana who's being pressed by two players. Onana slices it out of play. Onana makes ridiculous mistake after ridiculous mistake but at Inter and Ajax he was more known for Pirlo-esque through balls and being "unpressable" (according to Pep). The list goes on of players who make schoolboy errors in one game and world class performances in the next.
This manager is the one. I can’t tell you how happy I am to see these players getting the treatment they truly deserve. These players need to be held accountable and this manager has standards that these guys have never had to live up to …. This guy will flush out what a proper United player should be like and I’m here for it.
The precious players can do one. They are lucky not to be in a room with a bunch of angry fans nevermind 1 angry manager. By the way, Rashford is committed to the club........while desperately trying to jump to another club😅
It’s not about him wanting to stay or leave if ineos didn’t transfer list him he wouldn’t have done the interview. It’s about attitude quality wages commitment and what the manager wants. He doesn’t tick any of those boxes
This has to be the end game to take us out of the purgatory Woodward created. I'd back Amorim even if we get relegated. INEOS need to ignore the fan base as we have become a huge part of the problem
I said the other week that relegation could be a blessing in disguise, cos then we'd def get rid of the deadwood cos they won't hang around to play in the Championship. I back Amorim no matter where we end up, it's way past time to keep the manager and get rid of the players not good enough for the EPL nevermind United...
I want to touch on Rasmus thing and I agree with Steve and Ronaldo. Some people put Isak as as example, who is actually a few years older. When Isak wa Hojlund's age he was struggling and doing very similar numbers, then he grew and turned into striker he is now. I want to believe that Rasmus has huge potential, but he cannot, simply cannot be the main striker at this time. He needs time to develop and needs to be backed. Buying Zirkzee instead of older seasoned striker is just beyond me, such a bad decision from INEOS, not that I have much against Zerkzee he is just not what we needed.
Tremendous that a manager is calling these charlatans out, I wouldn’t blink twice if anyone is sold. Crying about Garnacho???? Grow up this club has seen Ronaldo Beckham Ruud etc all leave in their pomp
@@danielca3literally hundreds of videos you can find on youtube that's covered this coach's career, charisma and the situations he needed to overcome at various clubs. Honestly I thought it would be ten Hag but man lacked charisma and had a language barrier. Amorim was the best option, and we got him, thank our lucky stars for that. And we being the imbeciles we are, are pushing him to the brink already.
@@danielca3His recocord speaks for itself. Same as ETH. The problem is Eric abandoned his principles, including his style of play and discipline throughout the squad, which creates a winning mentality.
Great analysis. I do wonder if Hojlund has lost all belief that he's even going to get the pass and has got stuck in a bad rut. Zirkzee needs pace around him and running beyond him to be at his best.
I couldn't care less what the players feel like I back Amorim on this. As for cost cutting will it really go into the team I am dubious. Sir Jim is a business man and more interested in development of ground and surrounding area.
Amorim can just make the team run a couple of laps around the pitch after the matches they lose. The fans can give them all the "motivation" they need.
Højlund seems to be missing the confidence it takes to get into the flow of the game. He wants to play it safe, maybe adjusting to what is expected of him, instead of trusting his skill. If he overcomes this I think he can still become good. A better playing side would of course help him in this regard too
Højlund is getting misprofiled. He's a channel runner that is getting forced to play targetman. Hold up play isn't in Højlunds bag yet he's forced to do it.
The cuts is just Jim Ratcliffe trying to repair the damage that was already done before he bought 25%. He looks the bad guy, but without him, the club would probs end up like Barcelona.
It’s really not, sacking ETH, insisting a manager who shouldn’t have come to the summer, comes in November or doesn’t get the job, and has to implement his style of play straight away with no new players as of 22nd January. Idiocy.
Strikers score a lot of goals when they're running onto the ball.... United's strikers don't seem to get chances when they're running onto the ball. Our players don't create that kind of momentum because they take 2 or 3 touches, and then end up passing the ball back to the keeper
Stephen, thankyou for being a voice of reason & common sense in a time where so many fans are reactionary with no long term vision, great content, keep it up.
Ronaldo's description of Dalot was word for word a description of McTominay, so we can probably expect Dalot to start outscoring our forwards and then getting sold.
This is the manager we needed, we had one but he got left to dry and get eaten by the media, please back this man at all costs, these owners need to do some backing
can't wait for the summer exodus. Even if it means 10 out 6 in, I'll take it. We likely won't have European football so we could survive with a smaller squad. It's not even necessarily the players, it's their attitude. Only showing up in big games, it's pathetic
@@mlindikasa5789 arguably the worst move we've made post SAF, is getting rid of him as head of recruitment. He saw the severity of our issues years ago & called it out.
I was still pretty young, and my first memory of attending a game was away to Sheff Wednesday in the 2nd Division. Can you imagine how the Social Media generation would deal with it? People say "the expectations are higher now" but that's bollocks. The ability to cope with disappointment is just a lot lower!
Yes me too….but we didn’t kick the team when they were down, we supported them. The passion shown by the fans at the first game at Brisbane Rd was amazing.
Social media won't allow that sadly. The internet has ruin alot of things. I remember the times I would wake up early just to check the newspaper for match news if the games weren't on the tele, it is something I look back profoundly. @@derekibison6644
One of the main problems with United is that there's too much defense in attack. They're attacking and defending at the same time, players are unsure when to attack and when to defend. They attack with a defending mindset, and so they because they're double minded, they end up losing their composure and end up losing the ball as well. They can't tackle either, so that makes matters worse off the ball. I don't think it matters to these players if they win a title or not as long as their weekly wages remain the same.
MU need a new GK, LB, MF, LW, CF. We are speaking first team, let alone bench players. So, while I understand moving some players out, it doesn't make a lot of sense when the team is lacking so much. They need to sign some players first, then move out players that are not part of long vision.
@ The team will continue to suffer. MU is still MU, with good scouting, they can afford to buy a few cheap players from abroad or lower leagues which will do a job, then they can afford to move the players they want to move out.
Said it before but I’ll say it again. I think it’s time we have a real discussion about the myth of the United academy graduates and arguments as to why we fight to keep them and how good they are. Before I do elaborate, this is not me saying that we should abolish the academy or never filter through youngsters, far from it. I’m asking, quality wise, is it actually producing what you think it is? Other than the crop who graduated under Sir Alex and I specifically mean Beckham/Nevilles/Scholes/Giggs/Butt - which other United academy graduates have not only had stellar careers for United but for another top European giant? You can’t even argue for Pogba or Pique because although they were at our academy at some point, their most productive years were elsewhere. So in the last 40 years or so, we’ve produced about 5 players who went on to have great/elite careers. Compare this to the Ajax academy, Sporting Lisbon, Sevilla, Valencia or Benfica. My point is, if Mainoo or Garnacho have a price, let them go. Chelsea let young talent go all the time, City are doing it. I’d bet my life savings that Mainoo will never be as good of a player as Scholes, therefore if that is/was the standard, why act like the player is unsellable. Garnacho will NEVER be as good as Ryan Giggs, he’s more likely to be another Januzaj - if good money comes, let players go and re-invest in players ready for now. Get rid of this “What If” mindset.
Hold on, if you're not counting players who had their best years at other clubs, how are you talking about Ajax, Sporting or Benfica who sell all their best players by the time they're 23? And a lot of those Sporting and Benfica players are signed from South America at 18.
@@tokinsloff312 I am counting players who had their best years at other clubs (I said you could argue Pogba/Pique). You are correct in saying those players at those other clubs don’t stay at those clubs for their careers. But I said what players has Carrington produced that have had STELLAR careers at United or another top European club? Carrington produces good/decent professionals which is all well and good, Michael Keane, Tom Cleverly, Danny Simpson, Januzaj, Welbeck, Phil Bardsley, Danny Higginbotham, Scott Mctominay, Paul McShane, Robert Ziegler, Hannibal, McNair, Jimmy Garner, Tuanzebe, Brandon Williams, Danny Pugh, Tyler Blackett, Zeki Fryers etc etc. In comparison, you think of the talent that has passed through those other clubs!! Again, this isn’t me saying let’s get rid of our academy or anything. However, this notion that if we lose Garnacho, we’re gonna have egg on our face is ridiculous. History tells us he’s more likely to have a career like Angel Gomes than Ryan Giggs.
@ No, you said "you can't even argue for Pogba or Pique." The big difference with all those other clubs you've mentioned is that their young players get to develop without the scrutiny and pressure that United youth products have. I still think that 2 of the biggest transfer mistakes we've made since Fergie left were selling Welbeck and Jonny Evans, who had both proved they could play to their potential at United. Welbeck would always have been limited by his injuries, but he still would have been a better squad player than anyone we've bought for that role since he left. We should put a higher value on our academy products because that shirt is so heavy. Instead, for the last decade, we've consistently over-played and commercially exploited young players when we should have been protecting them like Fergie did with the class of 92. Having said all that, I'm actually not that bothered if we sell Garnacho, if we can get big money for him. We don't know if he's worth it yet, so it's worth taking the risk on him eventually exceeding that valuation. Finally, Angel Gomez is a weird choice to compare with Giggs. He's 24, he's just broken into the England team and we have no idea how far he might get in his career.
@ Of course I’m speaking in real hyperbole, yet I’ll bet my life’s saying that we’ll never mention Garnacho’s footballing achievements in the same breath as Giggs. Similar to yourself, if we get great money for him, I see it as a win. If he stays, fair enough. Having a career like Gomes is not a bad thing. He’s had to leave United for his career to take off. As you said, he’s in the England senior team now. Players not having the time to develop really has been the issue. A mixture of the atmosphere, pressure and management. I’ll be honest, Wellbeck and Evan’s were never a big miss for me. Wellbeck is injured as often as Luke Shaw and is far from a prolific goal scorer 104 goals in 466 appearances. Evan’s was a steady pro, nothing more nothing less, in my humble opinion. Lastly, I meant you can argue Pogba/Pique at a stretch. So that’s 2 players in the last 30+ years or so. I only have to compare this to Ajax - if I was to start naming the talent that has graduated from that academy, we’d be here all day.
We need to be patient as this squad requires massive rebuild, we've recruited way too badly post Mourinho, Amorim is the right guy we should be able to suffer for next 2 seasons atleast
Breaking: united have decided to sell Mainoo in a cut piece deal to be able to bring in a new TV to replace the one broken by amorim. Owners have made it clear to the manager that they are in a sell to buy situation.
He also said they worked on preventing the exact type of ball that led to the first goal. 4 mins in players have a brain fart. No wonder he's smashing the place up
@Chriztefur better than this loada rubbish.. and Einstein, they were all academy players i.e. didn't cost £1.5bn. If you're happy that we've wasted so much on Ligue 1 players the go please yourself.
i love Amorim, finally we have manager who is honest towards fans/press, demanding towards players, and wont take bullshit or bad attitude from players. now we just need new owners who are capable to support the manager. these players can go. buy actual athletes from now on.
Every other team in the prem has a strength or pace element that we just can’t compete with. We’re a tidy technical side, but get bullied game after game and that big OT pitch looks like it’s too big for our team to cover.
Just to remind that cost cutting HAS to be across the board, particularly when people are being made redundant. If people on normal wages are being told they are no longer needed as cost cutting is required, the club has to show that such cuts are being made to more executive positions that include Brand Ambassadors and nonessential, (and I know this pisses people off,) things like outreach and charity donations. Otherwise someone getting made redundant has a very good case for wrongful dismissal by simply citing, "They are STILL pissing money away on non club related stuff and these guys are getting paid millions to jet round the world with a Black Credit Card." That can turn into a collective or "class action" type case where the lawyers will take the club for millions in compensation.
I like Garnacho and think he has huge potential, but I absolutely back Amorim to remove any players that do not fit the criteria for what he needs and what the club needs
The problem with this team is that they are playing counter attacking football for a long time and we saw it happen with Ten Hag after 2-3,games he released that those players can’t play position football. Amorim has to stick to his plan no matter what
OT pitch is too vast for us to play at on regular basis. Too demanding too often in an age where every team runs into the ground for 90 mins. Shrink the pitch literally and allow players that 5% cut in effort needed
how can a striker with the best goal conversion rate in the prem in the past year be horrible? hojland agenda stinking. the guy got 8 in a row last year in prem, 6 champions leaguge goals too class striker needs more then 1 half chance a game
@@lartranslation6929 you show no evidence that it's purely a team issue or whether he's even making the right runs or not for a chance to happen. You show no heat map, no tactical play, no clips, nothing. All you have is some basic statistical stuff and zero context. "Best conversation rate" as I said as good as an undefeated record over a small number of games.
Damaging a TV is something. That is a big hit on our transfer budget and some of our scouts will be out looking at suitable TVs to replace the broken one
Fansbase is pretty sad. The guy has been here since Nov 24, has a record of 3-2-6. Grabbed 11 points from 33, he smashes a TV and fans think he's the second coming of Fergie and his hairdryer. This is a guy who has a "system" and a niche formation , who's team can't play his system nor his formation, which he refuses to change and because he smashes a TV is now a hero. Meanwhile United are 13th, one spot higher than when he took over. This guy is taking a team, who has a core group of players who finished 3rd and won a trophy less than 2 years ago. None of these channels ever put out any vids on why did the Rashfords, Fernandes, Casemiro, Eriksen, Martinez, Dalot, etc win 23 games a year and half ago, and now stink to high heaven? Did they all collectively decide to down tools and stink?
@ I’m talking about over the past couple years. He embodied exactly what Steve acted out as an example of what you can’t have in a successful dressing room
Both Hojlund and Zirkzee has been pictured very close to tears when they have came off in disatrous games, so if anyone cried I would bet on one of them.
Benny Mcarthy did an interview last year that highlighted the disparity between training performance and what happened on the pitch. Amorim finally feeling the pain that previous managers experienced. He is a great with the media, as such the press are finally cottoning on that maybe it’s the players. The narrative had to change towards the players and Ruben’s personality finally allowing all to see it. (Said this on other feeds)
If Rashford doesn't leave the club this month he will be brought back into the team. INEOS will not accept paying a player over a million a month simply for turning up to training. Rashford holds all the cards - he doesn't have to accept just any old move but the club has to carry on paying him! Same situation with Casemiro!
People talking about Lenny Yoro as a wide CB, not quite getting it yet at 19. Sir Alex thought Phil Jones, injuries aside, could have been better than Duncan Edwards. Rio was a bit erratic at West Ham and Leeds.
Time after time, we’ve seen the players outlast managers. Rashford must be looking at the results on the pitch and thinking Amorim will be gone soon enough (12 months? 18?). I can’t ever see this working, Amorim’s system is too different and requires profiles we don’t have. When it doesn’t get much better for Amorim, what are we going to do? Appoint another 3-4-3 coach, or yo-yo back to 4-2-3-1, selling all of Amorim’s key buys? It’s madness. Remember, United have really only ever succeeded under two very special managers - without Fergie and Busby we’re just another Fulham or Crystal Palace.
Back the manager, end player power. I would be Bruno was crying because of Amorim’s well deserved tantrum. He’s not been good enough all season and has recently been buoyed by his countrymen being named head coach. That in itself adds to his power as captain, same country, comes from porto and same agency if I’m not mistaken. Bruno goes on free roam too often and like Ste and Ronaldo say, he might be better served in a deeper role as a distributor. The talk about players looking forward with their first touch was bang on. Go watch a Roy Keane highlight, you can almost guarantee his first pass is forward if not breaking one or two defensive lines. Bruno would be better served with more restrictions in his game.
The criticism of Mainoo is ridiculous.....the kids missed two pre-seasons & come back from an injury after playing from November in he's first season to Euro's.... Give the kid a break....he's also still learning the position, he was an attacking midfielder until a couple years ago
If we sell Garnacho for €40-45m it will be a mistake. He has started to look less selfish after being dropped out. He will be an elite player in the future, minimum €65m to let Garnacho go but would live it for him to stay.
Last 4 attacking signings....250m.....Antony, Hojlund, Mount, Zirkzee. All these new financial constraints....were the club aware of them these past few years?
We all said that, but I think its time for him to use more from the academy and teens, it can’t get worse, at least he will have young hungry players to learn new system.
Respect to amorin, this would have happened years ago with sir Alex, that generation, having worked with them, did not give a shit, kicked out years ago, big time Charles, he hated them
Backing this manager til the end 👍
A couple more weeks then?
The end being about May then
Respect for the new manager..
Absolutely SICK of all the supposed fans already on his back… pathetic
For what? 😂 Making our team play worse? If we get to 17th He will be sacked this season 💯
@@joetommie438 proper downy
@@joetommie438 you may as well be a mole you’re so short sighted
Christ this fanbase is truly in the gutter…
Ragnick was spot on
Ragnick took over a side that finished 3rd
Ragnick absolved himself of blame.
And so was Cr7 mate
@@bouncecentral230ragnick took over from a mess ole the wolly left
@@Ligerpriderightly so, dealing with that shit show. He knew it was a madhouse.
he smashed a tv with a chair ...and i thought i couldnt love him more
amorims genius he has fans he has leverage ...shape up or ship out.
wearing united jersey isnt an accomplishment its winning in that jersey
So this is the standard now. How many tv's can the manager smash? You do realized that he is 3w 2d 6L and is 13th in the league since Nov 24
To wear a united shirt has to be a blessing yet these players just spit and throw it away
@@maximumdesigns01 were they spitting on it a year an a half ago when they won 23 games, the League Cup and got back in the CL? it much of the same players , right?
@@trevg9450you’re part of the issue, these players decide when they want to turn up. The last 4 games have shown that.
@@trevg9450 how many of those players from that season are still here or at least playing in the line up ?
Good vibe on this podcast. I still believe in Hojlund, he’s only 21 and still been very good in Europe for us over the last 2 seasons. Can’t discredit that
He is too limited in general play, pinning CB's offers nothing to the build up of play. He needs to ability to drop and create space behind him (although i am not sure this formation creates forward runners). He should also study Harry Kane and his timing into the box, Kane is always making late runs, never just sits in the box waiting for crosses, that's too easy for defenders.
@ yeah he’s definitely got worse at that, but he’s still got plenty of development and time to improve
It does create forward runs watch Sporting play. Only difference is Gyokeres runs like hes going to die if he doesn't.
He's a bum, have some standards
@@Vipox92 Gykores was playing for Swansea at 21, would you call him a bum?
I feel like United is one of the few clubs in the world who could survive for as long as it has, with they way it has been run over the past two decades.
Correct and that’s only because they inherited 20 years of Fergie.
@ianrichards1839 true that.
Amorin must be backed. I totally agree with him about our team. Their reactions to his statement will sort the wheat from the chaff. Imo he made the statement for just that reason.
I thought that said sacked for a second 😂 was about to go off
Howson looks well in himself. Really worked at losing the weight
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@@beans718Does it matter how he loses the weight?
@@beans718 pretty sure it wasn't that.
@@Rockstar-bq5fm never mind me ppl.. I’m just a hater
I rather sell the whole squad then loosing Amorim.
I swear I would let Amorim do whatever he wants as long as we don’t get relegated. Say anything about any player slag them off fuk them off etc. we need standards
Lol ffs.
@CorruptedMufc you welcome..lol..
@@luckythrone893 👍🏽
I’m not sure some tightness warrants selling the whole squad; do some stretches man!
I like Amorim’s formation/system, but I would invert the front 3 so it was a number 10 behind two “strikers”. It would mean Bruno central again as a 10 and Amad and Højlund could play as a pair of wide-ish strikers. It would also reopen the door to Rashford
Browsing through these comments and deary me, I have lost brain cells. Some of you calling for Amorims head haven't a clue.
It's a pity it was just the television that was smashed in the dressing room. Player power has been a subject amongst fans for many years post Fergie. How do you eradicate that? Show them who calls the shots, even if it means lashing out, which was completely justified.
We haven't got the correct profile of players yet to see the potential fruits of Amorims system. Look at the state of what he has inherited! A lot of good will come from this. It will take time, but we desperately need to offload mentally fringe players who aren't willing to put the effort in. If that starts with Garnacho leaving, happy days!
Fans need to learn how to read between the lines and apply a bit of critical thinking. So many people take an agenda and run blindly with it without any thought.
I support Amorim.
Most fans are muppets !
Sir Jim is down cex looking for a cheap tv to replace it 😂
The difference against Brighton is the pressure. We're expected to dominate, so the players are tense and afraid to make mistakes. Against Liverpool, there's a freedom to express themselves because the expectation is lower. This fear of failure against teams like Brighton is crippling us.
I'm surprised how few United fans see that it'sall psychological. De Ligt is known to be calm in possession but on Sunday with options in front of him, he panics and passes back to Onana who's being pressed by two players. Onana slices it out of play. Onana makes ridiculous mistake after ridiculous mistake but at Inter and Ajax he was more known for Pirlo-esque through balls and being "unpressable" (according to Pep). The list goes on of players who make schoolboy errors in one game and world class performances in the next.
Steve’s weight loss is really showin today. Great job mate !
The only bad gym day is the one you don't turn up to.
Comparing to the picture of him in background, bro looking great and younger too!
This manager is the one. I can’t tell you how happy I am to see these players getting the treatment they truly deserve. These players need to be held accountable and this manager has standards that these guys have never had to live up to …. This guy will flush out what a proper United player should be like and I’m here for it.
I've always taken Ralf's comment about the heart of the club as an indirect way of telling us fans the problem is the owners. Which remains.
The precious players can do one. They are lucky not to be in a room with a bunch of angry fans nevermind 1 angry manager. By the way, Rashford is committed to the club........while desperately trying to jump to another club😅
Only committed because the clubs linked with him are not as big as he had hoped for. Even AC Milan preferred Kyle Walker.
It’s not about him wanting to stay or leave if ineos didn’t transfer list him he wouldn’t have done the interview. It’s about attitude quality wages commitment and what the manager wants. He doesn’t tick any of those boxes
Big up Howson on the weight loss! Looking great 👏
Not been here in a while - just day looking good Ste dropped some weight I see. Good man and good show as always
This has to be the end game to take us out of the purgatory Woodward created. I'd back Amorim even if we get relegated. INEOS need to ignore the fan base as we have become a huge part of the problem
Facts
I said the other week that relegation could be a blessing in disguise, cos then we'd def get rid of the deadwood cos they won't hang around to play in the Championship. I back Amorim no matter where we end up, it's way past time to keep the manager and get rid of the players not good enough for the EPL nevermind United...
Drink the Kool Aid when you watch it happen
I will defend the fan base to my last breath. And you don’t want a war with me bro. No. There’s nothing wrong with the fan base.
@@kobss😂😂😂
Ste the weight is dropping off you bud.. Looking good👍
You say you'll never understand the pressure, yet you're expecting young lads to carry the mantle of playing for the biggest in the world..
Good point
We aren't the biggest club in the world
I want to touch on Rasmus thing and I agree with Steve and Ronaldo. Some people put Isak as as example, who is actually a few years older. When Isak wa Hojlund's age he was struggling and doing very similar numbers, then he grew and turned into striker he is now. I want to believe that Rasmus has huge potential, but he cannot, simply cannot be the main striker at this time. He needs time to develop and needs to be backed. Buying Zirkzee instead of older seasoned striker is just beyond me, such a bad decision from INEOS, not that I have much against Zerkzee he is just not what we needed.
Shout out to the 1.5x crew 🙌
heh sometimes I go 3x or something, my concentration is soo bad
Same.
😂 😂 😂 Might be the best comment I seen on UA-cam. Ppl think I'm nuts when they hear me listening out loud.
Love it
Try x0.5, my god 🤣
Tremendous that a manager is calling these charlatans out, I wouldn’t blink twice if anyone is sold. Crying about Garnacho???? Grow up this club has seen Ronaldo Beckham Ruud etc all leave in their pomp
What makes him a tremendous coach? Honestly jokes aside
@@danielca3literally hundreds of videos you can find on youtube that's covered this coach's career, charisma and the situations he needed to overcome at various clubs. Honestly I thought it would be ten Hag but man lacked charisma and had a language barrier. Amorim was the best option, and we got him, thank our lucky stars for that. And we being the imbeciles we are, are pushing him to the brink already.
Exactly!!! I want a massive clear out, it will probably be the summer. Hopefully it will heal this fanbase with Player FC nonsense.
@@danielca3His recocord speaks for itself. Same as ETH. The problem is Eric abandoned his principles, including his style of play and discipline throughout the squad, which creates a winning mentality.
Great analysis. I do wonder if Hojlund has lost all belief that he's even going to get the pass and has got stuck in a bad rut. Zirkzee needs pace around him and running beyond him to be at his best.
This is what it's gonna take...no excuses
Agree with Ste
Does anyone remember Rashford's 1st traing post.. 😂😂😂
I couldn't care less what the players feel like I back Amorim on this. As for cost cutting will it really go into the team I am dubious. Sir Jim is a business man and more interested in development of ground and surrounding area.
Amorim can just make the team run a couple of laps around the pitch after the matches they lose. The fans can give them all the "motivation" they need.
Højlund seems to be missing the confidence it takes to get into the flow of the game. He wants to play it safe, maybe adjusting to what is expected of him, instead of trusting his skill. If he overcomes this I think he can still become good. A better playing side would of course help him in this regard too
Højlund is getting misprofiled. He's a channel runner that is getting forced to play targetman. Hold up play isn't in Højlunds bag yet he's forced to do it.
He needs coaching, he's basically Danny Ings in a Chelsea Costa system. Will never work.
Hojland isn’t up to it
A better playing side would not have Hojlund as a starting striker
The cuts is just Jim Ratcliffe trying to repair the damage that was already done before he bought 25%. He looks the bad guy, but without him, the club would probs end up like Barcelona.
It’s really not, sacking ETH, insisting a manager who shouldn’t have come to the summer, comes in November or doesn’t get the job, and has to implement his style of play straight away with no new players as of 22nd January.
Idiocy.
Barcelona are 2nd in the champions league table.
League champions and 2nd in UCL it must be shit to be Barcelona.
@@christophermccaughran3253 talking about finances but spin how you like 🤐
Respect Howson for his honesty on Hojlund especially after certain PR pieces by other channels
Strikers score a lot of goals when they're running onto the ball.... United's strikers don't seem to get chances when they're running onto the ball. Our players don't create that kind of momentum because they take 2 or 3 touches, and then end up passing the ball back to the keeper
Stephen, thankyou for being a voice of reason & common sense in a time where so many fans are reactionary with no long term vision, great content, keep it up.
Amorim is a unit as well, and you wouldn’t wanna fuck with him
Ste looking really lean in this pod. Legend 💪🏽
Ronaldo's description of Dalot was word for word a description of McTominay, so we can probably expect Dalot to start outscoring our forwards and then getting sold.
This is the manager we needed, we had one but he got left to dry and get eaten by the media, please back this man at all costs, these owners need to do some backing
GUYS. STOP TWATTING THE DESK WHEN YOU SPEAK ITS JARRING WITH HEADPHONES ON
can't wait for the summer exodus. Even if it means 10 out 6 in, I'll take it. We likely won't have European football so we could survive with a smaller squad. It's not even necessarily the players, it's their attitude. Only showing up in big games, it's pathetic
You might not have Premiership football. Euro football is light years away right now. That's the truth.
Ralf Rangick open heart surgery moment is now.
@@mlindikasa5789 arguably the worst move we've made post SAF, is getting rid of him as head of recruitment. He saw the severity of our issues years ago & called it out.
Everybody reacts differently to aggressive arguments, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t understand and agree with the manager.
I’m old enough to remember relegation, we came roaring back back a new beast
Me too Nick. We have been a bit spoilt . What a season we had on coming back
I was still pretty young, and my first memory of attending a game was away to Sheff Wednesday in the 2nd Division.
Can you imagine how the Social Media generation would deal with it?
People say "the expectations are higher now" but that's bollocks.
The ability to cope with disappointment is just a lot lower!
Yes me too….but we didn’t kick the team when they were down, we supported them. The passion shown by the fans at the first game at Brisbane Rd was amazing.
Sooner remember winning the league that going down
Social media won't allow that sadly. The internet has ruin alot of things. I remember the times I would wake up early just to check the newspaper for match news if the games weren't on the tele, it is something I look back profoundly. @@derekibison6644
Under PSR a £50m academy sale would allow us to buy FIVE £50m players on 5 year contracts.
One of the main problems with United is that there's too much defense in attack. They're attacking and defending at the same time, players are unsure when to attack and when to defend. They attack with a defending mindset, and so they because they're double minded, they end up losing their composure and end up losing the ball as well. They can't tackle either, so that makes matters worse off the ball. I don't think it matters to these players if they win a title or not as long as their weekly wages remain the same.
@mmsmith1525 dumb comment as well of course you defend when the team does not have the ball stop making excuses for this lot
@keene226 you're slow to understand, so just let it be my friend.
MU need a new GK, LB, MF, LW, CF. We are speaking first team, let alone bench players. So, while I understand moving some players out, it doesn't make a lot of sense when the team is lacking so much. They need to sign some players first, then move out players that are not part of long vision.
And then some more players
We don't have the money to sign first sell later
@ The team will continue to suffer. MU is still MU, with good scouting, they can afford to buy a few cheap players from abroad or lower leagues which will do a job, then they can afford to move the players they want to move out.
We don't play wingers in this system.
Play the whole academy in the next match! They will play better even if they loose!
Said it before but I’ll say it again.
I think it’s time we have a real discussion about the myth of the United academy graduates and arguments as to why we fight to keep them and how good they are.
Before I do elaborate, this is not me saying that we should abolish the academy or never filter through youngsters, far from it. I’m asking, quality wise, is it actually producing what you think it is?
Other than the crop who graduated under Sir Alex and I specifically mean Beckham/Nevilles/Scholes/Giggs/Butt - which other United academy graduates have not only had stellar careers for United but for another top European giant? You can’t even argue for Pogba or Pique because although they were at our academy at some point, their most productive years were elsewhere.
So in the last 40 years or so, we’ve produced about 5 players who went on to have great/elite careers. Compare this to the Ajax academy, Sporting Lisbon, Sevilla, Valencia or Benfica. My point is, if Mainoo or Garnacho have a price, let them go. Chelsea let young talent go all the time, City are doing it. I’d bet my life savings that Mainoo will never be as good of a player as Scholes, therefore if that is/was the standard, why act like the player is unsellable. Garnacho will NEVER be as good as Ryan Giggs, he’s more likely to be another Januzaj - if good money comes, let players go and re-invest in players ready for now.
Get rid of this “What If” mindset.
Sad but true
Hold on, if you're not counting players who had their best years at other clubs, how are you talking about Ajax, Sporting or Benfica who sell all their best players by the time they're 23? And a lot of those Sporting and Benfica players are signed from South America at 18.
@@tokinsloff312 I am counting players who had their best years at other clubs (I said you could argue Pogba/Pique).
You are correct in saying those players at those other clubs don’t stay at those clubs for their careers. But I said what players has Carrington produced that have had STELLAR careers at United or another top European club?
Carrington produces good/decent professionals which is all well and good, Michael Keane, Tom Cleverly, Danny Simpson, Januzaj, Welbeck, Phil Bardsley, Danny Higginbotham, Scott Mctominay, Paul McShane, Robert Ziegler, Hannibal, McNair, Jimmy Garner, Tuanzebe, Brandon Williams, Danny Pugh, Tyler Blackett, Zeki Fryers etc etc.
In comparison, you think of the talent that has passed through those other clubs!! Again, this isn’t me saying let’s get rid of our academy or anything. However, this notion that if we lose Garnacho, we’re gonna have egg on our face is ridiculous. History tells us he’s more likely to have a career like Angel Gomes than Ryan Giggs.
@ No, you said "you can't even argue for Pogba or Pique."
The big difference with all those other clubs you've mentioned is that their young players get to develop without the scrutiny and pressure that United youth products have. I still think that 2 of the biggest transfer mistakes we've made since Fergie left were selling Welbeck and Jonny Evans, who had both proved they could play to their potential at United. Welbeck would always have been limited by his injuries, but he still would have been a better squad player than anyone we've bought for that role since he left.
We should put a higher value on our academy products because that shirt is so heavy. Instead, for the last decade, we've consistently over-played and commercially exploited young players when we should have been protecting them like Fergie did with the class of 92.
Having said all that, I'm actually not that bothered if we sell Garnacho, if we can get big money for him. We don't know if he's worth it yet, so it's worth taking the risk on him eventually exceeding that valuation.
Finally, Angel Gomez is a weird choice to compare with Giggs. He's 24, he's just broken into the England team and we have no idea how far he might get in his career.
@ Of course I’m speaking in real hyperbole, yet I’ll bet my life’s saying that we’ll never mention Garnacho’s footballing achievements in the same breath as Giggs. Similar to yourself, if we get great money for him, I see it as a win. If he stays, fair enough.
Having a career like Gomes is not a bad thing. He’s had to leave United for his career to take off. As you said, he’s in the England senior team now. Players not having the time to develop really has been the issue. A mixture of the atmosphere, pressure and management.
I’ll be honest, Wellbeck and Evan’s were never a big miss for me. Wellbeck is injured as often as Luke Shaw and is far from a prolific goal scorer 104 goals in 466 appearances. Evan’s was a steady pro, nothing more nothing less, in my humble opinion.
Lastly, I meant you can argue Pogba/Pique at a stretch. So that’s 2 players in the last 30+ years or so. I only have to compare this to Ajax - if I was to start naming the talent that has graduated from that academy, we’d be here all day.
Portuguese players do not slack when it comes to showing up. They never lack heart !
We need to be patient as this squad requires massive rebuild, we've recruited way too badly post Mourinho, Amorim is the right guy we should be able to suffer for next 2 seasons atleast
his 20... lads.... 20 ...
8:39 - 9:30 Ste nailed it straight on. 🙌
Breaking: united have decided to sell Mainoo in a cut piece deal to be able to bring in a new TV to replace the one broken by amorim. Owners have made it clear to the manager that they are in a sell to buy situation.
Backing Amorim, but he’s not blameless - emotions are good but you need to be smart.
He also said they worked on preventing the exact type of ball that led to the first goal. 4 mins in players have a brain fart. No wonder he's smashing the place up
Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Axel.Tuanzebe, Tenden Mengi, Ethan Laird, Alvaro Fernades, lingard, Mainoo, Hannibul, zidane iqbal, McTomminay, Garner, Angel Gomes, Mason Greenwood, Wellbeck, Marcus Rashford, Garnacho....
What’s your point? 90% of that list were bang average footballers?
@Chriztefur better than this loada rubbish
@Chriztefur better than this loada rubbish.. and Einstein, they were all academy players i.e. didn't cost £1.5bn. If you're happy that we've wasted so much on Ligue 1 players the go please yourself.
@Again, 90% of your list are garbage footballers who aren’t relevant lmao
@@Chriztefur 10% of free academy players is better than 100% garbage costing £1.5bn. Lyao
Ste looking really good these days! Keep it up, dude!
I wanted to like this video at least 6 times. Some excellent points made
Trust the process through the painful period that's coming, or we will never get back to winning ways. Trust in Rubin
i love Amorim, finally we have manager who is honest towards fans/press, demanding towards players, and wont take bullshit or bad attitude from players. now we just need new owners who are capable to support the manager. these players can go. buy actual athletes from now on.
Zirkzee was tearful imo
JZ is zen
Ronaldo is more professional and a better host than Ste. He kept trying to hint to Ste to lose the whiteboard and get it back on track.
Dude... It's a fanchan...
Every other team in the prem has a strength or pace element that we just can’t compete with. We’re a tidy technical side, but get bullied game after game and that big OT pitch looks like it’s too big for our team to cover.
ANY STRIKER IN THE WORLD wouldnt work in this team, Hojlund is a young player and should get the support from the fans
Fair play to stes weight loss 👏 inspirational shit right there brother..
Just to remind that cost cutting HAS to be across the board, particularly when people are being made redundant.
If people on normal wages are being told they are no longer needed as cost cutting is required, the club has to show that such cuts are being made to more executive positions that include Brand Ambassadors and nonessential, (and I know this pisses people off,) things like outreach and charity donations. Otherwise someone getting made redundant has a very good case for wrongful dismissal by simply citing, "They are STILL pissing money away on non club related stuff and these guys are getting paid millions to jet round the world with a Black Credit Card."
That can turn into a collective or "class action" type case where the lawyers will take the club for millions in compensation.
I love this new manager, I almost don't care about the results
I like Garnacho and think he has huge potential, but I absolutely back Amorim to remove any players that do not fit the criteria for what he needs and what the club needs
Ste looking cut as hell keep up the good work chief
Ste Howson is the only remaining fan who shows any maturity and talks sense.
I'm fully behind the manager, hopefully the club realize it has always been the players. They need to give him the time and he will come good.
The problem with this team is that they are playing counter attacking football for a long time and we saw it happen with Ten Hag after 2-3,games he released that those players can’t play position football. Amorim has to stick to his plan no matter what
OT pitch is too vast for us to play at on regular basis. Too demanding too often in an age where every team runs into the ground for 90 mins. Shrink the pitch literally and allow players that 5% cut in effort needed
how can a striker with the best goal conversion rate in the prem in the past year be horrible?
hojland agenda stinking.
the guy got 8 in a row last year in prem,
6 champions leaguge goals too
class striker needs more then 1 half chance a game
Fanfare about the "conversation rate" from Hoijland has about as much value as Allardyce's amazing England record. 😂
@@MrGts92 and why is that?
also, scoring 16 goals at 20 in that woeful team is amazing
an serious player in there.
@@lartranslation6929 you show no evidence that it's purely a team issue or whether he's even making the right runs or not for a chance to happen. You show no heat map, no tactical play, no clips, nothing. All you have is some basic statistical stuff and zero context. "Best conversation rate" as I said as good as an undefeated record over a small number of games.
Damaging a TV is something. That is a big hit on our transfer budget and some of our scouts will be out looking at suitable TVs to replace the broken one
Ronnie spot on
Onana cried
Good looks like manager he cares while some players checked out
Fansbase is pretty sad. The guy has been here since Nov 24, has a record of 3-2-6. Grabbed 11 points from 33, he smashes a TV and fans think he's the second coming of Fergie and his hairdryer. This is a guy who has a "system" and a niche formation , who's team can't play his system nor his formation, which he refuses to change and because he smashes a TV is now a hero. Meanwhile United are 13th, one spot higher than when he took over. This guy is taking a team, who has a core group of players who finished 3rd and won a trophy less than 2 years ago. None of these channels ever put out any vids on why did the Rashfords, Fernandes, Casemiro, Eriksen, Martinez, Dalot, etc win 23 games a year and half ago, and now stink to high heaven? Did they all collectively decide to down tools and stink?
Agreed
Yoro was the one crying
Ten Hag somehow lost more hair during his tenure at United.
This podcast is fucking golden. Ste do more diagrams bro ur better than most striking coaches it seems
I think Marcus was the sulker in the changing room 😑
@ I’m talking about over the past couple years. He embodied exactly what Steve acted out as an example of what you can’t have in a successful dressing room
Ronaldo called it all out. Seems he was right as he of all people knows what it takes to play for MU.
Throwing a strop and going to Piers Morgan...is that what it takes to play for Utd? 😂
Dalot. The fact that both you and me (who is in the other corner of the world) thought Dalot says a lot about his character.
Both Hojlund and Zirkzee has been pictured very close to tears when they have came off in disatrous games, so if anyone cried I would bet on one of them.
Maguire as well.
Benny Mcarthy did an interview last year that highlighted the disparity between training performance and what happened on the pitch. Amorim finally feeling the pain that previous managers experienced. He is a great with the media, as such the press are finally cottoning on that maybe it’s the players. The narrative had to change towards the players and Ruben’s personality finally allowing all to see it.
(Said this on other feeds)
If Rashford doesn't leave the club this month he will be brought back into the team. INEOS will not accept paying a player over a million a month simply for turning up to training. Rashford holds all the cards - he doesn't have to accept just any old move but the club has to carry on paying him! Same situation with Casemiro!
If a player makes 30 million, he sold his sensitivity. Do your job. We should withhold payment if they dont preform
People talking about Lenny Yoro as a wide CB, not quite getting it yet at 19.
Sir Alex thought Phil Jones, injuries aside, could have been better than Duncan Edwards.
Rio was a bit erratic at West Ham and Leeds.
Jeez, for fucks sake, Dennis Irwin was one of the best players Manchester United have ever had.
Time after time, we’ve seen the players outlast managers. Rashford must be looking at the results on the pitch and thinking Amorim will be gone soon enough (12 months? 18?).
I can’t ever see this working, Amorim’s system is too different and requires profiles we don’t have. When it doesn’t get much better for Amorim, what are we going to do? Appoint another 3-4-3 coach, or yo-yo back to 4-2-3-1, selling all of Amorim’s key buys? It’s madness.
Remember, United have really only ever succeeded under two very special managers - without Fergie and Busby we’re just another Fulham or Crystal Palace.
Back the manager, end player power. I would be Bruno was crying because of Amorim’s well deserved tantrum. He’s not been good enough all season and has recently been buoyed by his countrymen being named head coach. That in itself adds to his power as captain, same country, comes from porto and same agency if I’m not mistaken. Bruno goes on free roam too often and like Ste and Ronaldo say, he might be better served in a deeper role as a distributor. The talk about players looking forward with their first touch was bang on. Go watch a Roy Keane highlight, you can almost guarantee his first pass is forward if not breaking one or two defensive lines. Bruno would be better served with more restrictions in his game.
The criticism of Mainoo is ridiculous.....the kids missed two pre-seasons & come back from an injury after playing from November in he's first season to Euro's....
Give the kid a break....he's also still learning the position, he was an attacking midfielder until a couple years ago
If we sell Garnacho for €40-45m it will be a mistake. He has started to look less selfish after being dropped out. He will be an elite player in the future, minimum €65m to let Garnacho go but would live it for him to stay.
Yep
Last 4 attacking signings....250m.....Antony, Hojlund, Mount, Zirkzee.
All these new financial constraints....were the club aware of them these past few years?
It was Onana for sure.
If we sell these guys, it won't necessarily be because we want to, but we have too.
We all said that, but I think its time for him to use more from the academy and teens, it can’t get worse, at least he will have young hungry players to learn new system.
Respect to amorin, this would have happened years ago with sir Alex, that generation, having worked with them, did not give a shit, kicked out years ago, big time Charles, he hated them
ineos probably took the money for the new telly out of amorin's salary