I think oberyn martell vs. The Mountain is a decent display of strategy for oberyn and characterisaton for both. Another would maybe be ekko vs. Jinx even though its short. Great video btw!
One of my favorite fights for SOOO many reasons is Aragorn vs Lurtz (the Uruk-hai captain at the end of The Fellowship of the Ring). I think this is a great example of a toss up. Yes Aragorn is a beat but he is kind of fighting on his heals for most of it and just narrowly wins, and he does it without a deus ex machina. The fight has a lot of tension and the scene as a whole characterizes Aragorn as a fearless protector and highly capable warrior. The desperation you see in Aragorn in the fight also makes you think “oh… that was just one Uruk-hai… and Saruman has (at least) tens of thousands of them…”
The funny thing about David vs Goliath fight is that David basically got a medival equivalent of a hand gun he just shot the big guy in the head, thats how he won
Yes, it is. Many people have never seen a slingshot in their lives and don't realize how dangerous it is. A lead bullet fired from it carries about as much kinetic energy as a bullet fired from a Glock pistol. And although the slingshot bullets are heavier and not so aerodynamic, they retain a monstrous killing power at a distance of up to 100 meters. And when I say “monstrous” I mean that a hit of such a bullet in the arm, for example, can lead to a broken bone, and a hit in the head ends with a fractured skull. Of course the story of weak David against huge Goliath is a textbook example of an underdog, but in modern conditions it will be a UA-cam video like “Mr. Beast: I'm fighting against Conor McGregor, but I have a gun with me”. Doesn't sound all that impressive, does it?
Please read the fight, David wasn't pathetic by any means he was physically strong and slings are fine weapons but Goliath wasn't just a big dude he was decked out. Including a significant helmet. He actually survived the sling (likely because of his armor), and David stole his sword to finish him off. It's not a case of super obvious miracle like people like to portray it but David was definitely an underdog.
Given Goliaths equipment it's more fighting a special ops soldier, but I also have a gun. How impressive the fight is is commonly overstated but David was definitely an underdog
@@sinisterhunter Being faithful to archetype isn't a bad thing! Real Steel is almost beat for beat the first Rocky film, which practically invented the archetype. The problems with playing to type occur when you don't attempt to do anything new with it, or if you change it so much it is no longer recognizable!
i don't know if calling it underrated since every single person that i know that knows the movie absolutely loves it. Not a single exception, i might be wrong but thats my experience
I love how this series isn’t a simple, “here are these fight scenes I like and what I categorize them as”. You give us a list of conditions that a scene needs to make in order for it to reach the conclusions you come to. It is especially good that your conditions are well thought out, and are broad enough to show how fights can take many forms and give that sense of satisfaction we see in fights and their conclusions.
minor gripe, david doesnt use a slingshot, he uses a sling, which is different, since you spin it around to make the force rather than having any elastic
@@bobbytonson5890Goliath really showed up with a spear to a gun fight😂. He was the real underdog all along... The sling was not just a weapon for sheep herders. But an entirely qualified weapon of war. Hannibal for example even had entire slinger units in his army. Edit: That beeing said, I think Goliath was described as having a big shield. If he had just ducked his head behind that and charged, he would have won most likely.
My fave example of this is part 7 of jojo's, where a teenage girl with no powers takes down the final antagonist after he beats the protagonist, its truly memorable and executed well
@@icaro8264 Its not really a joke, its just that when one of the villains thinks hes won a 14 year old girl with no powers whos basically been a victim the whole story comes out of nowhere and exploits a gimmick created by another characters power to instantly kill him and stop him completing the main goal of the main antagnoist.
Not to mention she snuck into numerous goverment bases and stole parts of the corpse of Jesus Christ, survived being poisoned by said corpse at 100%, survived the 23rd president of the united states of america numerous times and even her own temporary stand, just to then heal up and beat the last villain that defeated the protagonist, a character that the main antagonist who had a barrier of infinite dimensions to his will couldnt beat
The ending fight of FMA:B vs Father is also thematically perfect because the entire fight is demonstrating the conflict between the ideas of people as a tool for power and power as a tool for people. It's so perfect for the show that has been exploring power and the responsibility and danger of it. Major SPOILERS, obviously. Al sacrificing himself to give Ed a fighting chance, followed by Ed sacrificing his power to get his brother back is a direct antithesis of Father's ambition, who represents basically every warlord, king, dictator, politician, corporate executive, etc. Father sacrifices entire nations to fuel his ambition. To Father, humanity is literally just a fuel for power to achieve his goals. Meanwhile, Ed sacrifices his power to save just one person after defeating Father. It's so beautiful, and such a perfect tie-in of the brother's driving motivation to the main overarching plot. Arakawa created such a masterpiece with Fullmetal Alchemist.
Seeing a 10/10 spoiler warning for a series that I just started watching was an absolute jumpscare I gotta finish watching it and then I can come back and finish the last few minutes of this video 😂
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, 100% THE must watch of anime. Easily the best piece of fiction and it's not even close. The biggest testament to that is I can tell you all of this and you will still be blown away from how good it is, including the fact that I'm saying it, ad infinitum. Don't skip the intros and watch the outros at least once each
@@Graxil Better than Attack on Titan? I'm doubtful but definitely intrigued. It's been on my watchlist for a while now, I'll come back to this comment after I watch it
@@YusufAli-zy8ze I've watched Attack on Titan, and it was better than I expected. I started back when season 3 was announced I believe. I think it's also great, though I think it suffered a bit in the later seasons, like game of thrones. It's not so much the outcome, but most things that happen make little to no sense the way they happened, the characters made many questionable decisions, it was kinda meh imo. Before that, I'd say it was 9/10, really loved season 3, but 1 and 2 were amazing as well. Compared to FMA, I'd say it's comparing an ant to a Colossal Titan. FMA is it. You can't make it better, simple as that!
@@Graxil Well that's a very bold claim. I still doubt it will be better than Attack on Titan, (AoT is my number 1 piece of fiction, and imo the last 2 seasons are the better than the previous ones, unlike in Game of Thrones) but I am very ready to be proven wrong.
Doppio vs Risotto is a great example of this in my opnion. Lots of people think he won because of luck (they paid no attention to the fight), when it was actually a really smart strategy that takes advantage of Doppio's surroundings and the opponent's own ability against him.
Also it’s ironic that Risotto lost due to Narancia’s stand which is actually the reason he found out Doppio’s a stand user, there are ppl blaming Narancia for this but if it wasn’t him Risotto would die way earlier
I'd like an underdog story where the underdog is the antagonist. The main character has spent a whole lot of time and effort to become the best of the best, and then all of a sudden some newbie who hasn't done the work threatens their spot, and the fight actually puts the protagonist in danger of the possibility that all their effort to become the best is going to be cut short and made useless.
Although I haven’t seen it, that sounds similar to what I’ve heard Cars 3 described as- a new generation of high tech cars make McQueen struggle to keep up, despite his large amount of experience and mastery
You brought up "hunter×hunter" and it triggered a memory in my head about the possible best fly swatting scene ever that feigned as a David vs Goliath fight. . . until the fight/slaughter fest started. . . And its when Kurapika brought a friggin shovel to a fight!!!
I think easily the best David vs Goliath fight is the season 1 finale of Invincible. Upon first look most people will say Omni-Man won because he defeats Invincible but defeating isn’t the same winning. If we look at the character’s goal, Omni-Man’s aim is to convince Mark he’s right and subjugate earth under Viltrum’s rule. Mark’s goal is to get through to his dad and protect earth. And in the end despite Omni-Man being clearly stronger, Invincible achieved his goal, and Omni-Man doesn’t. Invincible wins the fight
TBH, “loosing the battle but winning the war” is almost the Tao of invincible from what I’ve picked up. Invincible looses a lot of fights but just stubbornly refuses to die and that’s enough to pull through Hell, even when he does win he often has reason to regret
I love this video! Another thing that I think is really good with David versus Goliath fights, sometimes the goal is just destroying the opponent's win condition. Like in Puss in boots, it's possible that death could just keep fighting him forever, he's pretty much a spirit or a concept or something. He would wear puss out eventually. But like you said when he doesn't "see" puss anymore, he loses his win condition. All characters whether they're heroes or villains, are slaves to their motivations.
Or like in Gon & Hisokas fight, Gon’s objective isn’t necessarily to win at all. Proving yourself or finding a different objective in a losing battle is very interesting too.
The surroundings point is something thats very prevalent in the first two kung fu panda movies. In the first movie, Po uses his surroundings to keep Tai lung from grabbing the scroll, while Tai lung is too focused on killing Po over it. Thus leading to his eventual victory. In the second movie Shen uses his surroundings to bait Po into his eventual defeat via leading him in front of the firework canon. All the while Po is too focused on stopping Shen, that he doesnt realize hes on his turf. Very nice parallels from each film
Fantastic analysis, love the breaking down of strategy into the 5 s's. In regards to Puss 'n Boots, I'd argue his entire strategy would fall under synergy and not sacrifice. Sure, he was giving up his wish, but he wasn't doing that to defeat death, he was doing it because he didn't need it anymore. As you mentioned, when he was at his lowest point in the fight, disarmed, disrobed, and afraid, he put all his faith into the smallest bit of love, and that was more than enough to start to fight back. At that point, he was no longer living to escape death, but to share in love with others. Synergy!
It isn't his Wish he was sacrificing, he explicitly says he sacrificed his ego(and also, his way of approaching the world and his adventures). Synergy is helping in the moment, and that doesn't factor in motivation. Yes, Kitty and Perrito were his motivation, but that's not synergy, that's...unrelated. As mentioned, Death cuts off any access to Stealth(Sneak Attack), Environmental factors(Surroundings), and, of course, assistance from others with that flame ring. And assistance from others is what Synergy is - and nothing else.
I'm a game master and I have issues with my battles, players say they're the least fun part of the game, and this sucks coz I love action. I'm taking notes in these videos and trying to convert it to a TTRPG scenario. Something funny is that in my campaign, my players optimized their characters so much they ended being the goliath instead of their enemies. I wish I had these videos when I was still the GM of that campaign, they are great insights on how to make a fight scene be more than a trade of blows. Thank you :) Keep up the good content.
One (questionable) peice advice I’d give- make the combat dynamic. Not necessarily hard (though it sounds like your players want harder fights anyway) but ensure the situation or the combats change up mid fight in some way. Mobility can be good for this, as can a second phase, but there’s a lot of ways to add dynamics Having a secondary obstacle in a fight also helps I find
@@Delmworks Wasn't a lack of trying. One of the battles was against this earthbending dwarf I swooped from a book, and four giant statues (which I changed the weapon they wielded each to match one of the four elements). Another one was a "siege" in a shelter against elven warlocks in an abadoned mine. Another one had a mystical archer atop of a tower than would shoot everyone he could see every turn, but at the ground there was a mystical knight hunting everyone taking cover. Weird mechanical being that would imprison spellcasters in its pocket dimension, forcing PCs and NPCs alike to work without communication from the otherside (since the battle still occured inside the dimension). My players said their favorite battle (up to that point) was against a plant-mask monster that at certain HP thresholds the masks would drop turning into smaller versions of that monster, though. And after all of that I still heard that the combat was the least interesting part of the game with some players completely losing their focus when a battle started.
@@saltycupcake9054 You could probably use fights with different goals rather than overpowering the enemy. One of the more memorable fights from my last campaign was basically a 10 rounds survival where the party members used every trick in the book including deception and fake surrender to stall for time against an overwhelming opponent. Plus, in the process they managed to deduce his weakness to abuse in a later fight.
What system were you using? Some game systems simply buckle under powergaming unless you specifically overtune your creatures and encounters, and/or they simply don't have the framework to incentivise interesting gameplay. Back when I ran D&D5e it really felt like none of my encounters had any impact, but switching over to Pathfinder 2e visibly made my players have more fun even in relatively simple combats.
You can refer to Sneak Attacks as Surprise Attacks. For instance, the fight between Shikamaru vs Temari in Naruto. Shikamaru is aware that he cannot beat Temari in terms of the power department. That's why the only way he could beat Temari is to exploit her *Spot* *of* *Weakness* , catching her with his Shadow Possession Jutsu. Of course Temari is aware of this and does everything she could not to fall for that, such as measuring the limit of where his Jutsu can reach. This is where Shikamaru had to use the tools at his disposal along with the *Surroundings* to ensure his path to victory is guaranteed. Waiting so that the arena wall's shadow gets bigger and creating a shadow using his jacket as a parachute so that he could extend his jutsu. Then we get the *Surprise* *Attack* ; Temari was so focused on the threat in front of him that she didn't even realize she fell for a trap. Shikamaru lured her near one end of the underground tunnel that Naruto dug through in an earlier match to finally catch her with his jutsu.
Just saying, 'Surprise' and 'Soft Spot' or 'Shortcoming' are good S options for 'Sneak Attack' and 'Spot of Weakness' That said, good insightful video, Thank you.
Amazing work, dude. Really helpful and insightful breakdown. Everyone in the comments yelling about how it was a sling and not a slingshot, while factually correct, is missing the point entirely. Don’t let their pedantry affect you. Your mistake doesn’t take a single thing away from the points you made in the video.
Yeah, and I can entirely believe it ending the fight in one shot, divine power or no. Those things were designed to take down now-extinct megafauna, and it’s pretty trivial to make one that can break the sound barrier.
@@fiascothe63rd The projectile itself doesn't break the sound barrier. I figure that you probably just meant the end piece, but your wording was confusing, and I would rather be informative. The sound barrier breaking is similar to a whip where there's some tassles on the end that take most of the energy transfer and do a quick flicking motion to relieve energy in the system
Really like your examples/ background footage uses all types of media, action movies, cartoon shows, anime, older movies, and more recent movies. Keep up the good quality work
22:00 this is also an example of synergy, as earlier in the show edward showed his weakness by converting the diamond of his skin into coal, whitch is how greed knew how to counter him
Love the video, my only trouble for me was the Slingshot vs Sling thing that, many people in comments mentioned. That was legit almost a deal breaker, but I remembered how much I enjoyed the rest of your content so far. So I came back and finished it.
What an excellent video! I'm definitely binging this entire series. With regards to the final battle from How To Train Your Dragon, I'd argue that it includes 4 of the 5 strategies. It includes Synergy (between the teens as well as between Hiccup and Toothless), Spot of Weakness (as you described in the video), as well as both Surroundings _and_ Sneak Attack (since the attack in the clouds surrounding the Red Death is literally Hiccup and Toothless using the clouds as cover to perform a series of sneak attacks). The only thing that's really missing is Sacrifice as a strategy. I think some people may claim that Hiccup losing his leg counts as a sacrifice, but I don't think I'd count it since it wasn't his intention to lose his leg (or his life), even if he was willing to. I look forward to all your future videos!
20:45 of course FMA Brotherhood is a perfect example of every strategy type. It and Avatar the last airbender are basically perfect shows as far as examples of doing something right
6:37 it actually totally is a strategy in boxing. In fact it's the strategy that brought down Mike Tyson. Thats part of what makes it cool. The undefeated bot could hit so hard everyone went down in the first round. It was literally the story of Mike Tyson
True. But from a story structure standpoint they'd been leaning on that the entire film, they had to do something to mix that up if they wanted a proper finale. (And they did use it in part, it just wasn't decisive.)
One of my favorite David vs. Goliath fight is the Impel Down Prisoners vs. Magellan from One Piece. At this point in the story, Magellan is a completely unstoppable beast and the win condition is just escaping. The final confrontation of Magellan chasing everyone from floor 6 to floor 1 has one first major win condition, they need to hold of Magellan for long enough to give Jimbe and Crocodile (and Buggy) enough time to steal a ship and help save everyone else. There is synergy as Magellan is coated in an extremely powerful venom so Luffy can’t touch him. This leads Galdino to help by giving him was armor to let Luffy hit him. This is only a temporary solution as the wax will eventually melt to the venom but it gives more time to stall. Galdino’s wax also makes a wall to hold him back a bit longer. Jimbe and Crocodile return with the ship and are ready to help everyone out of the prison. Then comes the second major obstacle. Impel Down is a major branch of the government considering it is the strongest prison in the world. It is surround by impassable gates that only the control room can open so while the Prisoners got to the ship, they can’t truly leave. But someone had thought of that. Bon Clay is extremely loyal to Luffy despite not being part of his crew. His power allows him to transform into anyone whose face he touches. The gates suddenly open and everyone is confused what happened. We cut to a scene of Magellan in the control room telling them to open the gates when suddenly Magellan bursts in. Bon Clay was disguised as Magellan and had the guards open the gates. He is sacrificing himself knowing there is no escaping for him, but he guarantees everyone else escape. Magellan asks him for his final words and then we cut back to Luffy crying as he is finding out what is happening. The Prisoners escape Impel Down.
And then Blackbeard returns, beats Magellan to a pulp with his new crew of the strongest prisoners from the prison and Bon Clay apparently survives because Oda hates killing off characters outside of flashbacks. God damn it Oda.
One of my favorite movies of all time is Akira Kurosawa's Ran, which features both a flyswatting battle and a David v. Goliath battle, both of which are executed to perfection. During the flyswatting battle - the attack on the castle, the outcome is never in doubt. Instead, it's all about exploring the relationship between the brothers and showcasing their father's descent into madness, which is a huge plot point in the film. During the final battle, the weaker forces uses strategy, including surroundings and sneak attack, to ambush the superior samurai cavalry with gun equipped troops hidden in the surrounding woods. Moreover, it turns out that the entire final battle is a distraction to draw the attacking army out of the castle so it could be sacks by another force allied with the defenders (sacrifice and synergy).
20:02 You missed that this isn't actually his signature move. This move would normally end with his blade pointed at the target, but in this case he switched it up and landed with his boots. I think this might even qualify as a sneak attack!
I do appreciate these videos you took the time to figure out a formula. That makes sense and seems pretty pretty much true. I wanna say the answers were there for all of us, but you took the time to figure out and lay it out for us to understand. Appreciate it and yes do more of these videos because there is a mountain top of content and fights you could pull from and I watch it all.
This is my favorite series on the internet, its really informative and works as a perfect guideline when you actually get into writing fight scenes!!! Can't wait for the rest of the videos in the series to come out!!!
i swear, nowadays such old tropes must be explained to almost every writer there is. Cant even remember the last time i was having fun watching a well thought-out movie and that is not because i cant find fun in movies. Im not a writer but damn if i ever become one i'll make sure to use your videos as basis for action scenes
the jjk clips he put in this video hypnotized me back into that same feeling i had while watching jjk bro it was like the smell of the cartoon pie on the windowsill istg
The most underrated example I can think of is in Cyberpunk Edgerunner where David and his team got completely stomped on by Adam Smasher. But it’s never about killing Adam, David want to saved Lucy and get her to the moon. Which he did achieve. It’s probably the most soul-crushing thing I ever seen because while David win, he also loses. He didn’t get to be with Lucy on the moon
My favourite David vs Goliath fight is Ninjago Season 9 Lloyd vs Garmadon. Specifically that one, and not the other battle where they are fighting a literal colossus. The win condition was set up beautifully with a call back to season 3- the art of the silent fist, to win without landing a single blow. It was the fight that fueled Garmadon, who survived being encased in lava by the mother of dragons, who seemed so unstoppable until Lloyd realised the win condition. To not fight back, but to resist. There was definitely synergy in the first half with the dragon, Wu, and Lloyd. I believe the weak spot would be the win condition, and maybe even surroundings were used. Speaking of, the Oni Trilogy (Seasons 8-10) also contains more fascinating fights like another David vs Goliath with the win condition being to get the baby to safety. There’s even more out there so if you had a chance to make another sort of video I would love to see Ninjago receive the recognition it deserves.
Oh yes and speaking of Toss Ups, Dragon Rising Season 2 has Lloyd vs Beatrix’s twin (I forgot her name right now) in the tournament of elements where there was a lot of fun use of powers!
You could argue Walt's sacrifice was stooping to a greater moral low with the Brock trick. Maybe it didn't feel like that much of a sacrifice to him, but it's certainly a dramatic cost of victory.
Gurren Lagann. Team Dai Gurren is fighting an omnipotent being capable of reality and probability alteration. They are only able to push through after multiple members of the team sacrifice themselves for an inch of the battleground. Evolving a little bit more with each turn, because thats how a drill works.
I feel like World Trigger demonstrates a lot of these aspects perfectly. Synergy, surroundings, and strategy are used in World Trigger like no other anime quite does.. I feel like it can demonstrate a lot of the concepts this channel tackles
so cool of you to put spoiler warnings in your vids! theyve saved me more than a few times. next time you should also include the title of the show or movie beside the "spoiler level"
hxh stair scene is just such a better example than Hisoka and Gon match, the win condition, the sacrifice too,and synergy!? like crazy miss, but absolutely great vid
Your videos remind me of madvocates flash videos but less, negative It’s hard to explain but i enjoy when you point out the negatives in things but still appreciate the positives
I like how, while there are different examples for each category, there are some shows and characters in those examples that repeat - like Gojo. And it is infinitely more fascinating to look at the same character written well in those scenarios.
There is an entire light novel series about this David vs Goliath type fight (i like to call it drsgon slaying), Hsavy Object. It's a lot of fun, and by then end of the series the protagonists are so well known for pulling a win out of nowhere the roles almost reverse. Very fun stuff.
The thing about the real steel fight is that the fight was actually pretty close. The announcers describe the fight as war, with each bot getting in hits throughout the fight. It was only because the voice command thing in Atom broke that Charlie turns on shadow mode.
Another great video, wish I could have watched all of it, but I haven’t finished FMA:B quite yet😅 I look forward to the next two videos and what aspect of storytelling you’re going to cover next!
another thing that adds to gon vs hisoka is that in order for gon's plan to work he would have to be in a state of zetsu, which is incredibly risky and dangerous as demonstrated from previous fights. Gon had to learn and adapt from past mistakes thus using zetsu in a smarter way. the fact that gon is willing to risk his life in that way elevates the depth of the fight and provides insight on who gon is as a character.
This is part of the reason games like dark souls and hollow knight are so inspiring for me because you are almost always the underdog in every fight like for example in Elden ring I just recently fought and beat malenia and the fight itself was extremely close with me having no heals left and resorting to using a healing item that also poisons me my character was barely alive and on a tiny sliver of health, yet I felt like the coolest person alive in that moment.
This channel is so great and it genuinely reminds me of what I want to make my youtube content about. Once I have more time or editing skills or whatever on my hands I want it to be similar to this, just talking about how to make effective horror instead.
15:00 i think that the bat's were also used as a sacrifice, in order to scare Ratlesnake using his weakness, and make him irrationally unload his gun, meaning that Rango used all 5 strategies in order to win
Left out an amazing David vs Goliath fight in Thorfinn vs Thorkell from Vinland Saga Amazing show, definitely would recommend to anyone over the age of 6
one '''sacrifice'' I really liked was Netero vs Merum in Hunter X Hunter. Meruem's realization of human willpower was so well depicted along with Netero's background
I definitely love me some David v Goliath underdog stories, and while there's some easy to point to examples like the first Goku vs Vegeta fight, I'd love to take some time to highlight an overlooked favorite of mine. In the Pokemon Anime, there was an episode really early called "Electric Shock Showdown", that featured Pikachu going up against his bigger evolved counterpart, Raichu. Their first fight is a complete wash, with Raichu shrugging off Pikachu's attacks and easily overpowering him in just a couple moves. Discouraged, Ash considers evolving Pikachu so they can compete, but he's determined to win the way he is. Brock uses his knowledge as a breeder and pulls from actual facts in the game; namely, that stone evolutions like Raichu stop learning attacks as soon as they evolve. By taking some time to teach Pikachu the move Agility, he's able to speedblitz Raichu and dodge all his attacks in their rematch. When Raichu gets desperate and just blasts the whole arena, Pikachu reveals his final gambit where he stands on his tail to discharge the electricity into the ground. Too tired to continue, Pikachu easily cleans up with a couple hits to end the match. It's pretty much as prototypical as you can get in a 1v1 David v Goliath; lose the first match, form a clever strategy, retry and overcome the opponent who didn't bother to grow themselves. Ironically the followup episode they had way later, literally called "Pika and Goliath", was basically just a retread of the first episode with a more confusing solution. I guess they thought the speed thing was too clever so, this time Pikachu's solution is to like...spin a lot? And somehow that's really effective. With just a few small changes to the formula and the problems that come with repeating the same situation twice, it went from a blueprint of how to do David v Goliath right, to how to do it wrong. Finally, and I just have to bring it up because I think it's cool, the most recent show had "Destination Coronation", where the roles were actually reversed. Pikachu breaks out every old trick he used in the last two episodes to beat the other Raichu, but this one had prepared counters for each of Pikachu's techniques. The way Ash wins is by swapping out to a better matchup, basically an admission that they were outplayed there. You don't get to see it much, but getting to track a David v Goliath situation over time like this can lead to really cool interactions like that; if they have enough matchups, eventually who's David and who's Goliath can swap around on you without even noticing. Really great video, this and the Flyswatting video definitely earned a sub out of me; thanks for the food for thought!
What fights do you want to see in the toss up video?
naruto vs sasuke or goku vs vegeta
Im dissapointed why the 5 S's of strategy and not 6? I mean cmon Six starts with an S. Such a missed opportunity will your channel recover from this😔
I think oberyn martell vs. The Mountain is a decent display of strategy for oberyn and characterisaton for both. Another would maybe be ekko vs. Jinx even though its short. Great video btw!
Grimjoww vs ichigo, Gojo vs Sukuna, Luffy vs Lucci, Entertainment district in demon slayer, and naruto vs pain
One of my favorite fights for SOOO many reasons is Aragorn vs Lurtz (the Uruk-hai captain at the end of The Fellowship of the Ring). I think this is a great example of a toss up. Yes Aragorn is a beat but he is kind of fighting on his heals for most of it and just narrowly wins, and he does it without a deus ex machina. The fight has a lot of tension and the scene as a whole characterizes Aragorn as a fearless protector and highly capable warrior. The desperation you see in Aragorn in the fight also makes you think “oh… that was just one Uruk-hai… and Saruman has (at least) tens of thousands of them…”
0:44 David BEAT Goliath????? How about a spoiler warning next time
I mean the chapter did come out like over two thousand years ago
What’s next your gonna tell me Moses parted the Red Sea
@@xxeroc im gonna hold your hand when I tell you this...
The bible is pretty lit 🔥
@@xxeroc no! God did
Sorry for the spoiler
Dude really appeared out of nowhere 2 months ago and became one of my fav channels to watch.
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The funny thing about David vs Goliath fight is that David basically got a medival equivalent of a hand gun
he just shot the big guy in the head, thats how he won
"...And if that don't work, use more gun."
- TF2 Engineer
Yes, it is. Many people have never seen a slingshot in their lives and don't realize how dangerous it is. A lead bullet fired from it carries about as much kinetic energy as a bullet fired from a Glock pistol. And although the slingshot bullets are heavier and not so aerodynamic, they retain a monstrous killing power at a distance of up to 100 meters. And when I say “monstrous” I mean that a hit of such a bullet in the arm, for example, can lead to a broken bone, and a hit in the head ends with a fractured skull.
Of course the story of weak David against huge Goliath is a textbook example of an underdog, but in modern conditions it will be a UA-cam video like “Mr. Beast: I'm fighting against Conor McGregor, but I have a gun with me”. Doesn't sound all that impressive, does it?
@@Rendrom1by1 Even better, David did not use a slingshot, he used a sling. Which is MUCH more powerful of a weapon
Please read the fight, David wasn't pathetic by any means he was physically strong and slings are fine weapons but Goliath wasn't just a big dude he was decked out. Including a significant helmet. He actually survived the sling (likely because of his armor), and David stole his sword to finish him off. It's not a case of super obvious miracle like people like to portray it but David was definitely an underdog.
Given Goliaths equipment it's more fighting a special ops soldier, but I also have a gun. How impressive the fight is is commonly overstated but David was definitely an underdog
I Love that you put pretty much the ultimate underdog right at the beginning.
Real Steel is PAINFULLY underrated.
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It is WEIRDLY faithful to the archetype but its so well executed that you don't care
@@sinisterhunter Being faithful to archetype isn't a bad thing! Real Steel is almost beat for beat the first Rocky film, which practically invented the archetype. The problems with playing to type occur when you don't attempt to do anything new with it, or if you change it so much it is no longer recognizable!
i don't know if calling it underrated since every single person that i know that knows the movie absolutely loves it. Not a single exception, i might be wrong but thats my experience
I hadn't thought about real steel in so long... It was so good
I love how this series isn’t a simple, “here are these fight scenes I like and what I categorize them as”. You give us a list of conditions that a scene needs to make in order for it to reach the conclusions you come to. It is especially good that your conditions are well thought out, and are broad enough to show how fights can take many forms and give that sense of satisfaction we see in fights and their conclusions.
minor gripe, david doesnt use a slingshot, he uses a sling, which is different, since you spin it around to make the force rather than having any elastic
He literally said he knows there's to it, but it doesn't take away from his point.
@@DarkDefender1024 that is irrelevant
Additionally, slings are MUCH more powerful than slingshots, so David actually had a rather good chance of winning against Goliath.
So true, video was great but that detail more or less debunks everything he said actually, what an L+ratio
@@bobbytonson5890Goliath really showed up with a spear to a gun fight😂. He was the real underdog all along... The sling was not just a weapon for sheep herders. But an entirely qualified weapon of war. Hannibal for example even had entire slinger units in his army.
Edit: That beeing said, I think Goliath was described as having a big shield. If he had just ducked his head behind that and charged, he would have won most likely.
My fave example of this is part 7 of jojo's, where a teenage girl with no powers takes down the final antagonist after he beats the protagonist, its truly memorable and executed well
i feel like this is a really funny joke that i didnt get
@@icaro8264it’s genuine. It happens and it’s awesome
@@icaro8264 Its not really a joke, its just that when one of the villains thinks hes won a 14 year old girl with no powers whos basically been a victim the whole story comes out of nowhere and exploits a gimmick created by another characters power to instantly kill him and stop him completing the main goal of the main antagnoist.
@millo7295 Thats part 6, I think this is refering to Lucy steel vs dio in part 7
Not to mention she snuck into numerous goverment bases and stole parts of the corpse of Jesus Christ, survived being poisoned by said corpse at 100%, survived the 23rd president of the united states of america numerous times and even her own temporary stand, just to then heal up and beat the last villain that defeated the protagonist, a character that the main antagonist who had a barrier of infinite dimensions to his will couldnt beat
The ending fight of FMA:B vs Father is also thematically perfect because the entire fight is demonstrating the conflict between the ideas of people as a tool for power and power as a tool for people. It's so perfect for the show that has been exploring power and the responsibility and danger of it. Major SPOILERS, obviously.
Al sacrificing himself to give Ed a fighting chance, followed by Ed sacrificing his power to get his brother back is a direct antithesis of Father's ambition, who represents basically every warlord, king, dictator, politician, corporate executive, etc.
Father sacrifices entire nations to fuel his ambition. To Father, humanity is literally just a fuel for power to achieve his goals.
Meanwhile, Ed sacrifices his power to save just one person after defeating Father. It's so beautiful, and such a perfect tie-in of the brother's driving motivation to the main overarching plot. Arakawa created such a masterpiece with Fullmetal Alchemist.
Just mentioning “ Real steel” brought so much excitement and nostalgia. I love this battle so much
Yessss
Todo and Yuji is an impeccable example of synergy
Also one of the greatest sneak attacks (deception) in fiction with that lie at the end of the second fight
Todo and Yuji literally restored my will to exist in that fight I cannot begin to describe how amazing that fucking fight was omfg
My exact thought
Seeing a 10/10 spoiler warning for a series that I just started watching was an absolute jumpscare
I gotta finish watching it and then I can come back and finish the last few minutes of this video 😂
haha glad i didnt spoil it for you!
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, 100% THE must watch of anime. Easily the best piece of fiction and it's not even close. The biggest testament to that is I can tell you all of this and you will still be blown away from how good it is, including the fact that I'm saying it, ad infinitum. Don't skip the intros and watch the outros at least once each
@@Graxil Better than Attack on Titan?
I'm doubtful but definitely intrigued. It's been on my watchlist for a while now, I'll come back to this comment after I watch it
@@YusufAli-zy8ze I've watched Attack on Titan, and it was better than I expected. I started back when season 3 was announced I believe. I think it's also great, though I think it suffered a bit in the later seasons, like game of thrones. It's not so much the outcome, but most things that happen make little to no sense the way they happened, the characters made many questionable decisions, it was kinda meh imo. Before that, I'd say it was 9/10, really loved season 3, but 1 and 2 were amazing as well. Compared to FMA, I'd say it's comparing an ant to a Colossal Titan. FMA is it. You can't make it better, simple as that!
@@Graxil Well that's a very bold claim. I still doubt it will be better than Attack on Titan, (AoT is my number 1 piece of fiction, and imo the last 2 seasons are the better than the previous ones, unlike in Game of Thrones) but I am very ready to be proven wrong.
Doppio vs Risotto is a great example of this in my opnion. Lots of people think he won because of luck (they paid no attention to the fight), when it was actually a really smart strategy that takes advantage of Doppio's surroundings and the opponent's own ability against him.
Also it’s ironic that Risotto lost due to Narancia’s stand which is actually the reason he found out Doppio’s a stand user, there are ppl blaming Narancia for this but if it wasn’t him Risotto would die way earlier
22:44 and I’d watch a 5 hour long version
Same here
@@Hanni_Himbeer true true
Agreed
I'd like an underdog story where the underdog is the antagonist. The main character has spent a whole lot of time and effort to become the best of the best, and then all of a sudden some newbie who hasn't done the work threatens their spot, and the fight actually puts the protagonist in danger of the possibility that all their effort to become the best is going to be cut short and made useless.
gojo fight from jjk?
Megamind
Although I haven’t seen it, that sounds similar to what I’ve heard Cars 3 described as- a new generation of high tech cars make McQueen struggle to keep up, despite his large amount of experience and mastery
@@a.j.7322gojo vs toji is kind of a good example
My thoughts exactly lol@@brandonm1708
You brought up "hunter×hunter" and it triggered a memory in my head about the possible best fly swatting scene ever that feigned as a David vs Goliath fight. . . until the fight/slaughter fest started. . . And its when Kurapika brought a friggin shovel to a fight!!!
I think easily the best David vs Goliath fight is the season 1 finale of Invincible. Upon first look most people will say Omni-Man won because he defeats Invincible but defeating isn’t the same winning.
If we look at the character’s goal, Omni-Man’s aim is to convince Mark he’s right and subjugate earth under Viltrum’s rule. Mark’s goal is to get through to his dad and protect earth. And in the end despite Omni-Man being clearly stronger, Invincible achieved his goal, and Omni-Man doesn’t. Invincible wins the fight
TBH, “loosing the battle but winning the war” is almost the Tao of invincible from what I’ve picked up. Invincible looses a lot of fights but just stubbornly refuses to die and that’s enough to pull through
Hell, even when he does win he often has reason to regret
I love this video! Another thing that I think is really good with David versus Goliath fights, sometimes the goal is just destroying the opponent's win condition. Like in Puss in boots, it's possible that death could just keep fighting him forever, he's pretty much a spirit or a concept or something. He would wear puss out eventually. But like you said when he doesn't "see" puss anymore, he loses his win condition. All characters whether they're heroes or villains, are slaves to their motivations.
Or like in Gon & Hisokas fight, Gon’s objective isn’t necessarily to win at all. Proving yourself or finding a different objective in a losing battle is very interesting too.
@@shnitzel9052 Oh for sure, it's a fantastic fight for that exact reason
The surroundings point is something thats very prevalent in the first two kung fu panda movies.
In the first movie, Po uses his surroundings to keep Tai lung from grabbing the scroll, while Tai lung is too focused on killing Po over it. Thus leading to his eventual victory.
In the second movie Shen uses his surroundings to bait Po into his eventual defeat via leading him in front of the firework canon. All the while Po is too focused on stopping Shen, that he doesnt realize hes on his turf.
Very nice parallels from each film
Fantastic analysis, love the breaking down of strategy into the 5 s's.
In regards to Puss 'n Boots, I'd argue his entire strategy would fall under synergy and not sacrifice. Sure, he was giving up his wish, but he wasn't doing that to defeat death, he was doing it because he didn't need it anymore. As you mentioned, when he was at his lowest point in the fight, disarmed, disrobed, and afraid, he put all his faith into the smallest bit of love, and that was more than enough to start to fight back. At that point, he was no longer living to escape death, but to share in love with others. Synergy!
It isn't his Wish he was sacrificing, he explicitly says he sacrificed his ego(and also, his way of approaching the world and his adventures). Synergy is helping in the moment, and that doesn't factor in motivation. Yes, Kitty and Perrito were his motivation, but that's not synergy, that's...unrelated. As mentioned, Death cuts off any access to Stealth(Sneak Attack), Environmental factors(Surroundings), and, of course, assistance from others with that flame ring. And assistance from others is what Synergy is - and nothing else.
I'm a game master and I have issues with my battles, players say they're the least fun part of the game, and this sucks coz I love action.
I'm taking notes in these videos and trying to convert it to a TTRPG scenario. Something funny is that in my campaign, my players optimized their characters so much they ended being the goliath instead of their enemies. I wish I had these videos when I was still the GM of that campaign, they are great insights on how to make a fight scene be more than a trade of blows. Thank you :)
Keep up the good content.
One (questionable) peice advice I’d give- make the combat dynamic. Not necessarily hard (though it sounds like your players want harder fights anyway) but ensure the situation or the combats change up mid fight in some way. Mobility can be good for this, as can a second phase, but there’s a lot of ways to add dynamics
Having a secondary obstacle in a fight also helps I find
@@Delmworks Wasn't a lack of trying.
One of the battles was against this earthbending dwarf I swooped from a book, and four giant statues (which I changed the weapon they wielded each to match one of the four elements). Another one was a "siege" in a shelter against elven warlocks in an abadoned mine. Another one had a mystical archer atop of a tower than would shoot everyone he could see every turn, but at the ground there was a mystical knight hunting everyone taking cover. Weird mechanical being that would imprison spellcasters in its pocket dimension, forcing PCs and NPCs alike to work without communication from the otherside (since the battle still occured inside the dimension).
My players said their favorite battle (up to that point) was against a plant-mask monster that at certain HP thresholds the masks would drop turning into smaller versions of that monster, though.
And after all of that I still heard that the combat was the least interesting part of the game with some players completely losing their focus when a battle started.
@@saltycupcake9054 You could probably use fights with different goals rather than overpowering the enemy. One of the more memorable fights from my last campaign was basically a 10 rounds survival where the party members used every trick in the book including deception and fake surrender to stall for time against an overwhelming opponent. Plus, in the process they managed to deduce his weakness to abuse in a later fight.
What system were you using? Some game systems simply buckle under powergaming unless you specifically overtune your creatures and encounters, and/or they simply don't have the framework to incentivise interesting gameplay. Back when I ran D&D5e it really felt like none of my encounters had any impact, but switching over to Pathfinder 2e visibly made my players have more fun even in relatively simple combats.
@@daniellemurnett2534 We were using 5e, but players somehow didn't go full power gaming which left me the option to use combats as a narrative tool.
"I could've made this video 5 hours long..." Please do it.
You can refer to Sneak Attacks as Surprise Attacks. For instance, the fight between Shikamaru vs Temari in Naruto.
Shikamaru is aware that he cannot beat Temari in terms of the power department.
That's why the only way he could beat Temari is to exploit her *Spot* *of* *Weakness* , catching her with his Shadow Possession Jutsu.
Of course Temari is aware of this and does everything she could not to fall for that, such as measuring the limit of where his Jutsu can reach.
This is where Shikamaru had to use the tools at his disposal along with the *Surroundings* to ensure his path to victory is guaranteed. Waiting so that the arena wall's shadow gets bigger and creating a shadow using his jacket as a parachute so that he could extend his jutsu.
Then we get the *Surprise* *Attack* ; Temari was so focused on the threat in front of him that she didn't even realize she fell for a trap. Shikamaru lured her near one end of the underground tunnel that Naruto dug through in an earlier match to finally catch her with his jutsu.
Solid example that one. Continuity is part of the Surroundings after all.
Just saying, 'Surprise' and 'Soft Spot' or 'Shortcoming' are good S options for 'Sneak Attack' and 'Spot of Weakness' That said, good insightful video, Thank you.
I speak on behalf of UA-cam where I say a big fat YES to that Breaking Bad David vs Goliath video.
I fell in love with your videos, you are incredibly good at this!
Glad you like them!
15:27 Arguably, you could also call the casualties during the hawk scene a sacrifice. I saw at least one bat fall from the sky
Amazing work, dude. Really helpful and insightful breakdown.
Everyone in the comments yelling about how it was a sling and not a slingshot, while factually correct, is missing the point entirely. Don’t let their pedantry affect you. Your mistake doesn’t take a single thing away from the points you made in the video.
Yess!!! Please do the breaking bad David vs Goliath moments video. The show is soo filled to the brim with incredibly creative ideas
Honestly, this is my favorite series on UA-cam rn, keep up the great work!
13:44 well tbh, attacking from darkness is the original strenght of the night fury. Thats how it would attack on its own
Hey, Real Steel mentioned in 2024, sick!
These lessons are superb! I make good fight scenes with my animations, but these teachings are making my works more refined! Truly grateful!
Excellent video, very precise analysis of each example.
FMAB is by far my favourite in this list, truly GOATed show
Real Steal is a goated movie!! Deserves a sequel with how CGI has evolved
Even then the CGI in that movie looks really good, and it's been 12 years (god, I'm old)
1:41 a true Baptist preacher right there
David didn't use a slingshot, he used a sling
They’re also terrifyingly powerful
Yeah, and I can entirely believe it ending the fight in one shot, divine power or no. Those things were designed to take down now-extinct megafauna, and it’s pretty trivial to make one that can break the sound barrier.
@@fiascothe63rd The projectile itself doesn't break the sound barrier. I figure that you probably just meant the end piece, but your wording was confusing, and I would rather be informative. The sound barrier breaking is similar to a whip where there's some tassles on the end that take most of the energy transfer and do a quick flicking motion to relieve energy in the system
14:02 oh hey i'm part of that 2%
also thanks for including that aot scene, I was looking forward to you mentioning it and you did not disappoint
Really like your examples/ background footage uses all types of media, action movies, cartoon shows, anime, older movies, and more recent movies.
Keep up the good quality work
22:00 this is also an example of synergy, as earlier in the show edward showed his weakness by converting the diamond of his skin into coal, whitch is how greed knew how to counter him
didn't realise just how small this channel is
amazing work, I watched all the videos on these battles, and have learned a great deal
Love the video, my only trouble for me was the Slingshot vs Sling thing that, many people in comments mentioned. That was legit almost a deal breaker, but I remembered how much I enjoyed the rest of your content so far. So I came back and finished it.
at the rist of turning you into a top 10 channel, I would gladly watch a video that just goes over 10 more epic fights
What an excellent video! I'm definitely binging this entire series. With regards to the final battle from How To Train Your Dragon, I'd argue that it includes 4 of the 5 strategies. It includes Synergy (between the teens as well as between Hiccup and Toothless), Spot of Weakness (as you described in the video), as well as both Surroundings _and_ Sneak Attack (since the attack in the clouds surrounding the Red Death is literally Hiccup and Toothless using the clouds as cover to perform a series of sneak attacks).
The only thing that's really missing is Sacrifice as a strategy. I think some people may claim that Hiccup losing his leg counts as a sacrifice, but I don't think I'd count it since it wasn't his intention to lose his leg (or his life), even if he was willing to.
I look forward to all your future videos!
I would love a video going over all of Walter's David vs. Goliath moments
20:45 of course FMA Brotherhood is a perfect example of every strategy type. It and Avatar the last airbender are basically perfect shows as far as examples of doing something right
If you realy think about it, souls like bosses are all David vs Goliaths. It’s how you use every strategy to pull out on top
Are we talking about magic spam? I feel like we are talking about the cheesiest of builds
Ah yes, "dodge every attack or die" is strategy
@@fabianklevenz4800 truly one of the strategies of all time
@@fabianklevenz4800 There exists a full playthough of an Elden ring,where a guy tanked EVERY hit. So,no,not "spam evade key or die"
6:37 it actually totally is a strategy in boxing. In fact it's the strategy that brought down Mike Tyson. Thats part of what makes it cool. The undefeated bot could hit so hard everyone went down in the first round. It was literally the story of Mike Tyson
True. But from a story structure standpoint they'd been leaning on that the entire film, they had to do something to mix that up if they wanted a proper finale. (And they did use it in part, it just wasn't decisive.)
Wish he saw this comment
One of my favorite David vs. Goliath fight is the Impel Down Prisoners vs. Magellan from One Piece. At this point in the story, Magellan is a completely unstoppable beast and the win condition is just escaping. The final confrontation of Magellan chasing everyone from floor 6 to floor 1 has one first major win condition, they need to hold of Magellan for long enough to give Jimbe and Crocodile (and Buggy) enough time to steal a ship and help save everyone else. There is synergy as Magellan is coated in an extremely powerful venom so Luffy can’t touch him. This leads Galdino to help by giving him was armor to let Luffy hit him. This is only a temporary solution as the wax will eventually melt to the venom but it gives more time to stall. Galdino’s wax also makes a wall to hold him back a bit longer. Jimbe and Crocodile return with the ship and are ready to help everyone out of the prison. Then comes the second major obstacle. Impel Down is a major branch of the government considering it is the strongest prison in the world. It is surround by impassable gates that only the control room can open so while the Prisoners got to the ship, they can’t truly leave. But someone had thought of that. Bon Clay is extremely loyal to Luffy despite not being part of his crew. His power allows him to transform into anyone whose face he touches. The gates suddenly open and everyone is confused what happened. We cut to a scene of Magellan in the control room telling them to open the gates when suddenly Magellan bursts in. Bon Clay was disguised as Magellan and had the guards open the gates. He is sacrificing himself knowing there is no escaping for him, but he guarantees everyone else escape. Magellan asks him for his final words and then we cut back to Luffy crying as he is finding out what is happening. The Prisoners escape Impel Down.
And then Blackbeard returns, beats Magellan to a pulp with his new crew of the strongest prisoners from the prison and Bon Clay apparently survives because Oda hates killing off characters outside of flashbacks. God damn it Oda.
One of my favorite movies of all time is Akira Kurosawa's Ran, which features both a flyswatting battle and a David v. Goliath battle, both of which are executed to perfection. During the flyswatting battle - the attack on the castle, the outcome is never in doubt. Instead, it's all about exploring the relationship between the brothers and showcasing their father's descent into madness, which is a huge plot point in the film. During the final battle, the weaker forces uses strategy, including surroundings and sneak attack, to ambush the superior samurai cavalry with gun equipped troops hidden in the surrounding woods. Moreover, it turns out that the entire final battle is a distraction to draw the attacking army out of the castle so it could be sacks by another force allied with the defenders (sacrifice and synergy).
2.8% subscribers vs watchers is criminal, i refuse to let this stand. Instant subscription.
20:02 You missed that this isn't actually his signature move. This move would normally end with his blade pointed at the target, but in this case he switched it up and landed with his boots. I think this might even qualify as a sneak attack!
you're _really_ good at quantifying these kinds of things. like you make it look easy!!!
Keep up the good work, your doing really well homie. The subscribers will come because the content is fire
You're one of the better writing channels out there, a lot of paid courses probably aren't as good as these videos.
@Squampopulous where's the toss up video?
I do appreciate these videos you took the time to figure out a formula. That makes sense and seems pretty pretty much true. I wanna say the answers were there for all of us, but you took the time to figure out and lay it out for us to understand. Appreciate it and yes do more of these videos because there is a mountain top of content and fights you could pull from and I watch it all.
Real Steel mentioned, subscription earned
HTTYD mention, sub earned. Seriously good video dude, keep it up!
This is my favorite series on the internet, its really informative and works as a perfect guideline when you actually get into writing fight scenes!!! Can't wait for the rest of the videos in the series to come out!!!
i swear, nowadays such old tropes must be explained to almost every writer there is. Cant even remember the last time i was having fun watching a well thought-out movie and that is not because i cant find fun in movies. Im not a writer but damn if i ever become one i'll make sure to use your videos as basis for action scenes
the jjk clips he put in this video hypnotized me back into that same feeling i had while watching jjk bro it was like the smell of the cartoon pie on the windowsill istg
Thank you, wish you and all of us all the best. 🙏❤
Bro we want all the books you read on storytelling. You're a genius
The most underrated example I can think of is in Cyberpunk Edgerunner where David and his team got completely stomped on by Adam Smasher. But it’s never about killing Adam, David want to saved Lucy and get her to the moon. Which he did achieve. It’s probably the most soul-crushing thing I ever seen because while David win, he also loses. He didn’t get to be with Lucy on the moon
Love your channel, dude! Also, I'd love to see all the David vs. Goliath moments in Breaking Bad.
how is the quality of your videos so good already? Natural youtuber right here
Absolutely amazing video with some of my favorite underdog stories of all time! Thanks for the absolute blast of a video!!
My favourite David vs Goliath fight is Ninjago Season 9 Lloyd vs Garmadon. Specifically that one, and not the other battle where they are fighting a literal colossus.
The win condition was set up beautifully with a call back to season 3- the art of the silent fist, to win without landing a single blow. It was the fight that fueled Garmadon, who survived being encased in lava by the mother of dragons, who seemed so unstoppable until Lloyd realised the win condition. To not fight back, but to resist.
There was definitely synergy in the first half with the dragon, Wu, and Lloyd. I believe the weak spot would be the win condition, and maybe even surroundings were used.
Speaking of, the Oni Trilogy (Seasons 8-10) also contains more fascinating fights like another David vs Goliath with the win condition being to get the baby to safety. There’s even more out there so if you had a chance to make another sort of video I would love to see Ninjago receive the recognition it deserves.
Oh yes and speaking of Toss Ups, Dragon Rising Season 2 has Lloyd vs Beatrix’s twin (I forgot her name right now) in the tournament of elements where there was a lot of fun use of powers!
Ninjago has some of the best fight scenes in media fr fr
Was thinking about FMA the entire video and glad it was the crown jewel of the vid.
For someone who wants to write a show full of strategy, this video is sooo helpful
You could argue Walt's sacrifice was stooping to a greater moral low with the Brock trick. Maybe it didn't feel like that much of a sacrifice to him, but it's certainly a dramatic cost of victory.
not only movies but anime too, respect this man
Gurren Lagann. Team Dai Gurren is fighting an omnipotent being capable of reality and probability alteration. They are only able to push through after multiple members of the team sacrifice themselves for an inch of the battleground. Evolving a little bit more with each turn, because thats how a drill works.
I feel like World Trigger demonstrates a lot of these aspects perfectly. Synergy, surroundings, and strategy are used in World Trigger like no other anime quite does.. I feel like it can demonstrate a lot of the concepts this channel tackles
so cool of you to put spoiler warnings in your vids! theyve saved me more than a few times. next time you should also include the title of the show or movie beside the "spoiler level"
hxh stair scene is just such a better example than Hisoka and Gon match, the win condition, the sacrifice too,and synergy!? like crazy miss, but absolutely great vid
Your videos remind me of madvocates flash videos but less, negative
It’s hard to explain but i enjoy when you point out the negatives in things but still appreciate the positives
I like how, while there are different examples for each category, there are some shows and characters in those examples that repeat - like Gojo. And it is infinitely more fascinating to look at the same character written well in those scenarios.
Yes definitely do a video on Breaking Bad’s David vs Goliath fights!
There is an entire light novel series about this David vs Goliath type fight (i like to call it drsgon slaying), Hsavy Object. It's a lot of fun, and by then end of the series the protagonists are so well known for pulling a win out of nowhere the roles almost reverse. Very fun stuff.
The thing about the real steel fight is that the fight was actually pretty close. The announcers describe the fight as war, with each bot getting in hits throughout the fight. It was only because the voice command thing in Atom broke that Charlie turns on shadow mode.
I just found your channel but love your analysis. I'd love to see you cover more Breaking Bad
I could watch hours of just DvG fight breakdowns!
always a pleasure squampy
great video! im loving the series so far, i wish you would talk about fights in arcane and invincible too!
you seriously are talented and know what you're talking about. keep up the good work man.
the secret 6th S caught me so off guard holy shit
you definitely get a sub out of that
Another great video, wish I could have watched all of it, but I haven’t finished FMA:B quite yet😅
I look forward to the next two videos and what aspect of storytelling you’re going to cover next!
another thing that adds to gon vs hisoka is that in order for gon's plan to work he would have to be in a state of zetsu, which is incredibly risky and dangerous as demonstrated from previous fights. Gon had to learn and adapt from past mistakes thus using zetsu in a smarter way. the fact that gon is willing to risk his life in that way elevates the depth of the fight and provides insight on who gon is as a character.
your videos have made me realize i'm writing a character who can best be described as a David Flyswatter which is interesting to think about lmao
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR USING MY IDEA 😆🙏❤
Hey man, thanks for showing up in my recommendations again, forgot I loved your videos, but I'm subbed and hit the bell, so I'll be coming back!!
This is part of the reason games like dark souls and hollow knight are so inspiring for me because you are almost always the underdog in every fight like for example in Elden ring I just recently fought and beat malenia and the fight itself was extremely close with me having no heals left and resorting to using a healing item that also poisons me my character was barely alive and on a tiny sliver of health, yet I felt like the coolest person alive in that moment.
This channel is so great and it genuinely reminds me of what I want to make my youtube content about. Once I have more time or editing skills or whatever on my hands I want it to be similar to this, just talking about how to make effective horror instead.
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i think that the bat's were also used as a sacrifice, in order to scare Ratlesnake using his weakness, and make him irrationally unload his gun, meaning that Rango used all 5 strategies in order to win
Left out an amazing David vs Goliath fight in Thorfinn vs Thorkell from Vinland Saga
Amazing show, definitely would recommend to anyone over the age of 6
I like the idea of breaking bad’s David vs Goliath moments. Sounds cool.
one '''sacrifice'' I really liked was Netero vs Merum in Hunter X Hunter. Meruem's realization of human willpower was so well depicted along with Netero's background
The GOAT uploads again🔥🔥🔥
I definitely love me some David v Goliath underdog stories, and while there's some easy to point to examples like the first Goku vs Vegeta fight, I'd love to take some time to highlight an overlooked favorite of mine.
In the Pokemon Anime, there was an episode really early called "Electric Shock Showdown", that featured Pikachu going up against his bigger evolved counterpart, Raichu. Their first fight is a complete wash, with Raichu shrugging off Pikachu's attacks and easily overpowering him in just a couple moves. Discouraged, Ash considers evolving Pikachu so they can compete, but he's determined to win the way he is. Brock uses his knowledge as a breeder and pulls from actual facts in the game; namely, that stone evolutions like Raichu stop learning attacks as soon as they evolve. By taking some time to teach Pikachu the move Agility, he's able to speedblitz Raichu and dodge all his attacks in their rematch. When Raichu gets desperate and just blasts the whole arena, Pikachu reveals his final gambit where he stands on his tail to discharge the electricity into the ground. Too tired to continue, Pikachu easily cleans up with a couple hits to end the match.
It's pretty much as prototypical as you can get in a 1v1 David v Goliath; lose the first match, form a clever strategy, retry and overcome the opponent who didn't bother to grow themselves.
Ironically the followup episode they had way later, literally called "Pika and Goliath", was basically just a retread of the first episode with a more confusing solution. I guess they thought the speed thing was too clever so, this time Pikachu's solution is to like...spin a lot? And somehow that's really effective. With just a few small changes to the formula and the problems that come with repeating the same situation twice, it went from a blueprint of how to do David v Goliath right, to how to do it wrong.
Finally, and I just have to bring it up because I think it's cool, the most recent show had "Destination Coronation", where the roles were actually reversed. Pikachu breaks out every old trick he used in the last two episodes to beat the other Raichu, but this one had prepared counters for each of Pikachu's techniques. The way Ash wins is by swapping out to a better matchup, basically an admission that they were outplayed there. You don't get to see it much, but getting to track a David v Goliath situation over time like this can lead to really cool interactions like that; if they have enough matchups, eventually who's David and who's Goliath can swap around on you without even noticing.
Really great video, this and the Flyswatting video definitely earned a sub out of me; thanks for the food for thought!