Why The Protestant Reformation Was Worse Than You Thought
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- The Protestant Reformation, or simply 'The Reformation', was the religious movement that began in 16th century Western Europe that revolted against the Catholic Church. The movement led to the creation of Protestant Churches, which today make up nearly 40% of all Christians in the world. This video will analyze what caused the Reformation, how it occurred, and the figures involved. It will also ultimately make the case that this Reformation did more harm to Christianity than good. Listen in for a lesson about arguably the most important event in modern history!
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0:00 Intro
3:35 The Catholic Church Before the Reformation
11:12 Political Causes of the Reformation
14:54 The Protestant Reformation Begins
18:42 Other Protestant Groups
25:01 Consequences of the Reformation
31:32 Conclusion
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Citations:
'The Reformation' by J.P. Kirsch
'Causes and Consequences of the Reformation' by Steven Pfaff, Jared Rubin, and Sascha O. Becker
'Why The Reformation Was Necessary - But Protestantism Was Not' by Mark Brumley
'Not a Reformation but a Revolution' by Karl Keating
'Reformation' - Encyclopedia Britannica
'The Scofield Bible-The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians' By Maidhc Ó Cathail
Can we appreciate all Catholics in the British Isles still standing their ground after 500 years of persecution?
Tandem Triumphans 🇮🇪🏴🏴🏴✝️🇻🇦
Jimmy savile was one of them, good Ambassador for that community.
@@LaPizzaPatatosa I think it makes total sense that the devil and his followers would hide in and infiltrate the one true church. Any attempt to undermine another religious institution is senseless because they're rotten to begin with.
Catholics persecuted? Aren’t they the ones who persecuted those who opposed catholic heretical teachings that are found nowhere in the bible?
@@YizzyRoger Womp Womp
@@YizzyRoger whataboutism fallacy.
King Henry VIII was a proto-redditor
King Henry VIII, along with nearly all of his bishops, was a Roman Catholic, even after he split from Rome.
Henry VIII < Most Monarchs and PMs across the globe at the time
@@DjDeadpig >during that time
So the King of Spain and emperor of the Holy Roman Empire Charles, the King of France Francis, the King of Portugal John, etc were worse for reasons... Ok if you are referencing modern times it's valid your point
The word youre looking for is proto. Proto-redditor
@@supahjadi8944 very true
King Henry made his own church to get a divorce💀
He was also a drunk, a thief, a murderer and a glutton. A pretty repugnant man.
King Gustaf Vasa made his own church for money and to create a propaganda network.
@@UnknownUser69698 💀💀💀😂😂
Despite this, the theological path that Anglicanism followed has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Henry VIII was just a catalyst the real engine was William Tyndale who was burnt at the stake for translating the scriptures into English from the original language.
As a young adult furthering my beliefs in the Catholicism, I can tell you first hand that many young Catholics are seeking traditional Catholicism. We have started taking the host with our tongue and even have taught our Latin Masses.
Traditional from second century, fourth, sixth?
@@RPlavo pre-Vatican 2
I've kind of noticed that in some of the seminarians that sometimes do the Liturgy of the word at my chapel. No doubt The Holy Spirit is working to course-correct all this nonsense. God bless you.
@@RPlavoa tree when it's a seed, a sprout, a shrub?
Taking the host with our tongue is soooo inconsequential that I am amazed that you even mention it!
This is where most Catholics are re. religious beliefs:
complete intellectual stupidity because they really want to "sit in their pews" and let the priests think for them and do everything?
What would Jesus think???
If someone says that religious wars were the equivalent of children fighting over whose imaginary friend is better, reply with this:
"By this standard, World War II and the Cold War following it were a bunch if kids fighting over whose favorite book is the best".
They will just agree on that too then tho lol
the problem is people think wars start for one reason and not a compilation of problems
@@Idishrkdmd This. I've heard many a midwit say something like "money is the root of all war". Conflict has existed long before money ever came to be. Wars happen because humans are tribal, and we live on a finite planet. We do our best to avoid it, but there are simply times when it is necessary to fight. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being childish.
@@malicant123And a leftist midwitt would also claim that they are above human tribalism when not only they praise tribalism of non-whites (except a few East Asians) but those far-leftists are also very tribal on their own. Just look what happened to JK Rowling and Ana Kasparian.
It was. World War 2 was fought over the Talmud.
Jesus is love, jesus is life
Amen brother
Amen
Amen.
Yes but you are not saying much with that.
Christus Rex
Christus Imperat
I am Orthodox myself, but I love all my Christian brothers, as long as they follow the holy book.
Keep seething about the Pope though.
@@davemoore7808 I didn't even mention the pope. Are you good man?
@@incognitoomen7898I’m Catholic and I respect Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Christians, I think Catholics and Orthodox Christian’s can solve their theological differences through counsels and if both communities don’t let pride and ego get in the way. However for Protestants I respect them but I think the reason Catholics and Orthodox Christian’s are less tolerable towards Protestants is because their theology is heretical and if they want to mend the schism they’ll have to abandon their theology, whereas Catholics and Orthodox have to come to an agreement and certain things.
@@goldenrepublic6848 great point! indeed some protestant groups hold heretical views. I think it better however to not fight with them as it will not change their minds. As long as someone follows the good book though, I will have a great ammount of respect for them.
@@goldenrepublic6848Catholics are by default, heretical. There is 0 precedent in the Gospel for the veneration of Mary and the intercession of saints. Jesus said “no one comes to the Father but through me”, not “no one comes to the Father but through my Chosen and my Mother”
Ironically, Henry VIII wrote such a great treatise defending Catholicism and the Papacy, that the Pope gave him the title, "Defender of the Faith".
The Faith being Catholicism.
He, of course, kept that title when he assumed power of the English Church and his descendants to this day, who claim to be "Defenders of the Faith" but of course the faith being Anglicanism.
Charles, prior to becoming King, even tried changing it to "Defender of Faith" to accommodate all the relgious groups currently in the UK but was shut down by the then Anglican Archbishop.
Anglos dragging the world to misery, more news at 11
If you believe on Jesus you will be saved.
All sinners can be saved
It was not henry who wrote it but he did take credit for it from Thomas Moore who he had killed because he refused to bow to Henry's will
The Lutheran Church will Take you under its wing... Not threw good works, but by faith alone.🙏🙏
@@xcm3069 Sure they can, but will they? Christ Jesus said that many are on the wide road to perdition, and few will find way to salvation.
You see... the problem is that devils believe, but they tremble. They tremble because they know what happens even with wicked servants that wasted their talents, hours, words, let alone with open rebels, enemies of God.
Yet, they've already chosen their side, they've chosen to perform wicked works... such as introducing doctrines of the devils, different gospel - such as faith alone is, which lead people to false belief that doing wicked works, engaging in sinful behavior, rejecting the Church in matters of faith, or morals, rejecting Church sacraments will get you to heavens... you need to only claim to believe in Jesus Christ, you need to call him "Lord, Lord", and inequities will be forgiven - which is totally opposite of what Christ said to those who will come to him and claim that.
Those who spread false gospel receive apostolic condemnation of St. Paul, that faith-alonists are so eager to attribute their false doctrine to him erroneously... completely missing the point that works of the law (i.e. circumcision ) are not good works of charity (ie. praying for living, and dead).
You may have all the faith, that you may move mountains, but you are nothing without charity that is shown in works of charity. Faith without good works is like a rotting corpses - dead, stinks, scandalizes, causes fall of those little ones who believe in Christ.
Can you do a video on the Great Schism? I'd like to hear your general thoughts on Eastern Orthodoxy
The Great Schisim was almost entirely political.
Eastern orthodoxy is based
As an orthodox person I would love to see is criticism of the Orthodox faith. I'm pretty sure since he's a traditional catholic he'll become orthodox within the next 5 years
@@TheOrthodoxClown I've seen Trad Caths who don't budge especially in the SSPX I don't agree with them, but I respect their convictions and perspectives on it, if he comes Orthodoxy then all Glory to God ☦️
The Orthodox church and Catholic church are (literally) brothers when you look back.
Both founded by (literally) Jesus Christ.
Either one is lovely
Love from an Orthodox Christian ☦️❤️
Just disagree on the Vatican/Pope
The protestant reformation and its consequences...
have been a disaster for the human race.
A recent biographer and admirer of Luther said that if Luther had suffered the fate of His, Latin Europe would have been spared the violence of the religious wars. But the growing nationalism would have weakened the authority of the Pope, especially after Henry had shown them how profitable schism was.
@@Dan-jp8jr I've already completed it, your answer is now irrelevant.
The Catholic church was the first protestant reformation
@@IN-pr3lw Prove it (you can't)
In condemning us, you condemn all your own ancestors, all our ancient bishops and kings, all that was once the glory of England-the island of saints, and the most devoted child of the See of Peter. - Saint Edmund Campion 🏴 🇻🇦 A☧Ω
I don't condemn you. But your new traditions will.
@@through-faith-alone what new traditions?
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged namely homosexuality
@@through-faith-alone that is your domain. The Catholic church has always held that homosexuality is a sin.
@@USDebtCrisis not any more, and I am Orthodox.
“A Man For All Seasons” also won the Academy Award for Best Picture when it came out. That’s a true testament to how much Hollywood has changed in the decades since then. The fact that a smut film like Moonlight (2016) is considered by the Academy Awards to be in the same league as a movie about one of the greatest martyrs of the Protestant Reformation (and also my ancestor).
Hollywood is a reflection of society, which is influenced by Hollywood/pop culture.
I’m Eastern Orthodox so I’m gonna enjoy the show 🍿 😂
You're next 🫵🏻😎
@@USDebtCrisis nah bro I’m good. You should become Orthodox though 😎🤙
@@USDebtCrisis Sorry, St Gregory the Great would look at your current Papacy in shame I'm staying Orthodox ☦️
@@obiwankenobi6871 sorry, I'm already in the true church, the Catholic church. I hope you guys swallow your pride someday and realize that being a bunch of irrelevant quibbling state churches makes you much worse off than being in the universal church overseen by the rock.
Calm down Obi-Wan
Bro came back with the milk, Thank God 😭🙏
Glad Pax Returned to see his son again
Pray for King Heretic Henry's 8 wives.
They all suffered and being tormented under his gluttonous, schismatic, and abusive rule.
Catherine of Aragon never converted she remained Catholic up to her final days.
@@uncommon_name9337 W Catherine
Anne Boleyn poisoned his mind, and turned him away from the the One, True Church.
Only 6 lol! And heaps of concubines and wenches!
They were 6, actually...
You forgot about Jan Huss and his Hussites. The Hussites are why Martin Luther did what he did, they inspired him.
let me drink that wine! hand me the chalice, brother! cheers
Its always interesting how the Hussite Movement is forgotten. They even had a great military commander in thebform of Jan Hus.
@@SIGNOR-G Huss was still wrong.
@@seansensei10 of course he was but thats not the point. That event should be remembered as the canary in the mine.
@SIGNOR-G absolutely. The Orthodox aren't happy that we didn't stop them, they've been dealing with the Hussites for a while.
The worst thing the reformation did was doom christianity to theological relativism. By separating apostolic authority from the church all it took was a difference of interpretation to allow literally anyone to make their own church with their own heretical interpretation.
Using the scripture itself rather than the arbitrary edicts of a fallible clerical bureaucracy who, at many points, were more interested in lining their pockets than working in the interest of God, is a better way to avoid theological relativism as much as possible. This is obvious given the numbers of views and practices which the Catholic church once arbitrarily claimed as the will of God and later recanted.
@@CPU9incarnate that is your cope but you can clearly see the fruit of the reformation in the endlessly splintering sects and ever present encroachment of liberalism.
@@USDebtCrisis The Catholic church endorsed the contemporary Islamic invasion of Europe.
@@CPU9incarnate Except the Protestants made it easier for people to make up theology on the fly. That is why non-Catholic Christianity is so weak outside of the Evangelicals and the Orthodox. Protestants from Lutherans, to Calvinists, to Methodists and Anglicans now tolerate a great many things like gay weddings and lesbian clergy. Only the Evangelicals and Orthodox stand firm, everyone else has fallen.
Also, the Catholics still believe most of the stuff they proclaim to believe. Not to mention that the practices you mention are still being practiced by a great many number of Catholics, from self-flagellation to no meat on Friday. It's just that they made it optional now.
The core of Catholicism has always been the Nicene Creed. Everything else, they can choose to accept or deny based on the needs of the faithful.
No. The problem with Reformation was that it drew Christianity closer back to rabbinical Judaism both in practice and in alliance, a far more authoritarian system.
Please don't associate Megachurches with the rest of Protestantism. Many Protestant Churches have very traditional liturgy. The point of the Reformation was not to abandon tradition, but to purify it. As a Protestant, I have a lot of respect towards Catholics so please have some respect towards us. God bless
Good word
Anyone who’s unwilling to address specific groups and treats Protestant anything more than “not Catholic” isn’t willing to do that. He wants to make you feel like you’re on the same team as Mormons and jws because he’s making propaganda.
I like your post, James -- but asking a diehard Catholic to depict Protestantism in an accurate light is like asking a politician to honor his oath of office.
No
Here's the point: Your liturgies, while I am sure are done in good faith, are invalid and incomplete. It doesn't matter how "high" they are, your clergy have no authority and you do not eat the flesh and blood of our Lord. In this way, your church, no matter how much more similar it appears to Catholicism, is just like your "low church" brothers.
As a protestant, I’d like to offer up some clarifications on protestantism. There are a lot of caricatures they go around on both sides, and when we just shout “You guys worship Mary!”, and “Jesus founded my church, Martin Luther founded yours!”, we very quickly poison the well and can shout past each other. With that being said, classical protestantism arose in a very different context than catholicism today.
Jan Hus was burned at the stake for trying to reform the church. He was deemed a heretic and imprisoned by the catholic church through means of deception, burned, and his ashes scattered in a river to deny him the status of martyr. The Waldensians were a medieval group of Christians deemed as heretics by Rome and brutally repressed and persecuted. They were called heretics for their differences in church structure, which is arguably not heresy at all. In fact, in 2015, Pope Francis apologized to the Waldensians and called them the “earliest evangelical church.” This was the context Martin Luther and the reformers found themselves in. The catholic church attempted to imprison Martin Luther like how they did Jan Hus, also through means of deception. the Roman Catholic church was not shy to brutally repress opposition, heretic or not. the following wars saw attrocities on both sides, prots and caths massacring each other. No side was innocent in this conflict.
You claim that protestants cannot agree on anything. We do agree on something, that being the scriptures have more authority than the church.
You showed footage of grifters like Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen when first referring to protestants, and referred to mormons and JW’s as protestant denominations. Claiming any of these are protestant would be like claiming the cathars were Catholic. Please stop these disingenuous pictures, they only serve to poison the well with protestants.
Early on in the video, you claimed that protestants said the catholic church had no authority. This is not what the reformers taught.
"in the papacy there is true Christianity, even the right kind of Christianity and many great and devoted saints....
The Christendom that is now under the papacy is truly the body of Christ and a member of it."
Luther's Works, vol. 40 (Concordia), p 232.
"When we categorically deny to the papists the title of the church, we do not for this reason impugn the existence of churches among them."
Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion 4.2.12
"They make the Greeks schismatics: with what right? Because in withdrawing from the apostolic see they lost their privilege. What? Would not they who fall away from Christ deserve to lose it much more?"
Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, 4.2.2
There are lots of misconceptions and caricatures floating around, so I just wanted to clarify the classical protestant position on these issues.
This is all worthless, of course someone like Martin Luther would disagree with the existence of I z r a e l, that’s not the point, you created “reforms” and then didn’t put a single pillar of foundation, it is nothing more than the worship of flux, so of course, eventually someone will come around and use the situation to their benefits, which also includes wacky stuff like JW, I mean, straight up, who, or what has the authority to denounce every single gnostic sect America loves to come up with every single day as non-protestant?
@@EldenRingBuildsArchiveyou sound very sheltered
Except that "you guys worship Mary" is indeed, an uneducated caricature. But "Jesus founded the Church" and "Martin Luther founded yours" Is 100% historical and accurate, not a caricature, just a fact.
Waldensians and others were indeed, heretics, because they denied many of the dogmas of the Church [aka Jesus' and the Apostles teachings]. Their heresies went beyond "church structure" [which is already heretical, mind you].
Pope Francis apologized not because they aren't heretical, but because he seeks union and to become one single Chruch again as Jesus intended, hence he is willing to be diplomatic, but you're in error if you don't understand how heretical they were [or evangelicals are nowadays by that matter]. That still doesn't mean they can be called back into communion.
Another error you commit is calling the Church "Roman Catholic", there's no such a thing as Roman Catholic, there's only the Catholic Church [the "roman" addendum is, precisely, an addendum done by protestants to belittle its authority so they could come up with their false churches and claim "equal" authority. But they're false, because they're not the one Jesus founded. Those new churches are just their own heretical version of the original Catholic Church, which is ultimately the whole point of them being a heresy.
Also the institution itself has never been corrupt, some members within may have been, including people of importance in the hierarchy, granted, but the institution belongs solely to Jesus and no one else. You calling His church corrupt or being able to be corrupted [and not the individuals] truly rises many questions about your faith in Jesus, your understanding of Jesus teachings, and your fidelity towards Him.
Protestants indeed can't agree on anything, since they each want to become their own Pope [irony]. Also JW and Mormons protest [key word] the teachings of Jesus [aka the Catholic Church], hence they are also protestants by default, despite not agreeing with most other protestants.
I also want to point the irony [to not say hypocrisy] of you claiming "they are not X", but you just accused the Church of not accepting others as Christians because of heresy, go figure. You just point fingers when is convenient for you... you're not honest in this regard and therefore not reliable.
Calvin, who was a terrible theologian, had no authority whatsoever to go granting or deny anything to anyone. He was just a buffoon.
There're lots of misconceptions and caricatures, indeed, but pretty much all of them come from the protestant side.
@@GranMaese Protestants view the church as invisible, and reject the assumption that Christ is limited to a particular institution. We see this throughout the New Testament; in Acts the Apostles go out and find Christian communities were already there. Paul writing his Epistle to the Romans? He didn’t start the church in Rome, it was already there. Mark 9:38-41 explicitly has a man refuse to submit to the Apostles themselves, and Jesus does not seem to think it makes him unsaved. Can we hear stories of men in the Middle East having visions of Jesus, finding a Bible, forming a community of believers, and then reject them because they are not part of a particular institution? With what right can we say those things?
There is an assumption you are asserting that Jesus specifically started your church. The Eastern Orthodox claim the same thing, as well as the Oriental Orthodox. Who am I to believe? All of them have just as convincing historical cases as the Catholics, there’s ultimately no reason for me to not pick them over you. The Protestant view of the church is Catholicity, meaning truly universal. So long as the Gospel and nature of God is not compromised, you are Christian.
What specific heresy did the Waldensians teach? For clarification, heresy is being incorrect about the nature of God, or any teaching which compromised the very nature of the Gospel. I want to hear what specific Gospel-compromising heresy the Waldensians were teaching, not vague accusations of “rejecting Jesus’ teachings.” Also, if Pope Francis were just doing it to be diplomatic, according to you, wouldn’t that make him a compromiser, to be willing to accept others with supposed heresies?
You are simply asserting Protestants can’t agree on anything. We all agree the Scriptures are a higher authority than the church. Just asserting we don’t agree doesn’t do anything.
Saying “Calvin was an awful theologian” is a red herring and besides the point. The reason I quoted Luther and Calvin were to show the classical Protestant position of Catholicity. Calvin stated there are true Churches in the Roman Church and the Eastern churches. He’s accepting Orthodox and Catholics as true Christians. I quoted this in response to Pax Tube’s claims in the video that said protestants viewed the church as “illegitimate.”
You seem to misunderstand what it means to be Protestant. In addition to being Christian, which mormons and JWs are not categorically, you must believe the Scriptures are a higher authority than the church. Mormons and JWs have bodies of “living Apostles” where they effectively act as superiors over the scripture, they determine what it means. This makes them, by definition, not Catholic.
Please stop with the caricatures. They serve no other purpose than to poison the well and make this conversation so much harder for both sides. I want to have a calm, charitable dialogue. But that charity must go both ways.
@@wormius7350 Dear brother,
The very first sentance you just said is, precisely, what's so wrong with protestnatism. The Church is not just another 'particular' human institution, but it is *His Community* [God's community]. You seeing it only as "another institution" is you failing to see it is also divine, because His founder is divine. Furthermore, the Church is, by default, an institution because it was instituted by Christ Himself. Whatever you "feel" about that, is ultimately irrelevant to history and doctrine.
Also, as with every community, it has order and hierarchy. If you dislike that, and want to rebel against it, you're free to go and make another community, which is what protestantism is all about, but that'll be a different community from the one that God instituted Himself. By no means you could claim yours is the same as the original, nor that it has the same value, unless you're trying to mock God and replace His will with yours, unless you want to "teach" God how to do it or something equally wicked. In the end, you leaving the community to make your own copycat is illogical if you claim to follow God.
Then, the fact you believe Christian communities literally popped-up into existence out of nowhere, is unbelievable. Not all communities were founded by the 12, granted, but they were all founded by Jesus' disciple's [Luke 10, 1]. They weren't random people as you claim, like all protestant churches are, but a *selected* few within the "official group", so to speak [the whole point]. In other words, all of them disciples that started communities were part of the same group, the same community, the same institution you love to reject so much. Also, while all communities are important, some of the most significant ones for Christian history were indeed founded by the Apostles themselves anyways. So that's that.
Also, with all due respect, you have a terrible misintrepretation of Mark 9, 38ss [which is yet another reason protestantism is so wrong. Protestants love to go making their own personal interpretation of Scripture each time, but people shouldn't go making whatever they want of Scripture, Scripture itself tell us to never do so, like in 2Peter 1, 20s; and that we should never let our human reasoning interfere with God's will [like His will to create one Church, with one spirit, not many, as protestantism pursues].
Scripture warns us to not go doing your own will but the Lords', yet protestantism is all about doing your own will, interpeting at your own intuition and so on. That's an insult to God. Per example, Proverbs 3, 5 reads: _«Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.»_ But by embracing protestnatism you are demonstrating you don't trust the Lord, for you rebel against His community to build your own, leaning on your own understanding of it or "how it should be". You end up trying to teach God how to do stuff, as I said.
But I digress, Mark 9, 38ss is not about a man "refusing to submit" or rejecting the Apostles, as you so, so wrongly believe, because you lean on your own understanding, dear brother, but is about one disciple expelling demons while simply not being part of the 12. However, in no moment at all in the whole passage does that man "rejects" the Apostles [as you, somehow, believe], on the contrary, we can understand from the text itself they stopped him [and he certainly obeyed, go figure], but they still asked the Lord becasuse they where not sure if they should've done it. And so Jesus tells them: _«"Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me.»_ [so far so good, but immediatelly He also says:] _«For whoever is not against us is for us.»_ And that alone debunks your protestant position, for protestantism is literally to protest [hence the name] against the group, against the Church of Christ. You are against the actual Church, hence you are not part of the group.
Then you speak of Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy, but you fail to see that, unlike protestnatism, which is a heresy, the Orthodox brothers are not heretics but schismatics, this means they currently may not be in communion with the Pope [and some other stuff], but they can rightfully track their origins to the true Church at some point, when they were part of it and belonged to it, which means they can share that part of history. Nothing wrong there, is until the schism that they went wrong, a different path. However, that's unlike protestantism which is its own thing, contradicting the Church, disboyeing the church, protesting against it. Protestnatism starts not as part of the Church [like Orthodoxy] but as an opposite force, a heresy.
You can't talk about how the "protestant view" is Catholicty when is in your very nature to lack union, because you reject a catholic magisterium, one unified dogma. Protestantism is a mess, because is false teaching by all means and purposes. You compromise the nature of God when you do contrary to what He taught and expected us to do when He founded His Church. Is good that you put your faith in Jesus, though, that is nice and the sole reason there's hope. Amen to that, brother.
Then, about the Waldensians you ask about. Some of the doctrinal errors the Waldensians propagated were the denial of purgatory, and of indulgences and prayers for the dead and refused to take oaths, among other things. Now, you as a protestant will say: _"well, I don't b3elive in those neither, so they must have been right!"_ and that's when you'll prove to be wrong and help me enforce the idea of why protesntatism is a heresy. They were going against the teachings of the Church since its very origins, just because they didn't like it. Remember that the Waldensians were mainly recruited among circles not only devoid of theological training, but also lacking generally in education, it was inevitable that error should mar their teaching, and just as inevitable that, in consequence, ecclesiastical authorities should put a stop to their work.
Heresy is not "being incorrect about the nature of God , or any teaching which compromised the very nature of the Gospel" that's your own twisted protestant version of it [to avoid recoginzing protestantism as the heresy it actually is]. An actual heresy, according to the Church, is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith. So they were 100% heretics.
Pope Francis is trying to save souls, unlike protestants that allow all kinds of errors and heresies and accuse each other, while also accusing the only legit authority on the matter. Is in its very nature and principle of "protesting the Church teachings" to do so. So the Pope is not allowing their heresy, he is giving them a chance to correct their errors and be in communion with the Church again. Very different.
You literally can't agree on anything as protestants. You claim Scriptures are a higher authority, yet you can't agree on what it even says or how to apply it. Furthermore, the Church gave you the Bible in first place [mind you], both are of divine origin, but the Church is the one that established the Christian canon in case you didn't know. Hence the Magisterium has at least an equal [if not even higher] authority in that regard. Or since when are the kids of higher authority than the parents?
I mentioned Calvin, because you quoted him [a lot by that matter]. Making notice he was an awful theologian and full of heretical views is therefore important. His "opinion" is not valid.
Also, you're confusing his use of communities [as in local communites, the parishes and what not], and *the community* [the Church] which is universal, one faith, one soul.
Then, Catholics [the undeniable original Christian group], doesn't believe Scripture is of higher authority than the Magisterium. That's protestant nonsense, with all due respect. Following your own logic, you're simply trying to be your own Pope who decides who is or who is not a Christian by your own standards, which is extremely ironic.
If it makes you feel better, those groups are not Christian indeed, but if we go by that route and get technical, then protestants are only borderline Christians. I'm just pointing the irony out.
Finally, indeed, we should stop with the caricatures. "Catholics worship Mary" is indeed a caricature, per example, but protestantism was started by wicked man that believed they knew better than God, and which sole purpose is to rebel [protest] against His Church, is not a caricature, is a fact.
Sorry if I don't sound charitable, but some times one has to say what has to be said. And sometimes is necessary that you hear things as they're instead of sugarcoating them.
Godbless, brother.
Further reading: William Cobbett's History of the Protestant Reformation in England and Wales. One of the best, and best-written books I've ever read. Backs everything Pax is saying, plus a thousand more horrors from the English experience. Guy was a Protestant too, reads like a giant redpill exercise for the author and reader alike. Essential.
I agree.
An excellent book.
I'd love to see you debate Redeemed Zoomer, a Presbyterian.
And Kyle
Redeemed Zoomer isn't good at debating. The Catholic channel Scholastic Answers has a good interview with him.
Kyle is literally the definition of a bot. You might as well just go to the source and debate Jay dyer.
@@MW-tu2jxKyle is awful
RZ is jewish
Catholics are good at l debating lay Protestant online. However, they almost never venture into debating a pastor or elder from a historic Protestant church (Anglican, Lutheran or Reformed).
As the Ottoman Sultan stated in his letter: “Protestantism and Islam have more in common than Catholicism has to do with both.”
I suppose in the sense that Protestantism and Islam were both actaul religions while Catholicism was a tax collection agency.
@@CPU9incarnate Nope. Protestantism was just as tax-happy as Catholicism was. Both pass around the collection plate and get miffed when you have nothing to give.
Then what is dschizyah?? Qoran 9.29.
Because both Islam and Protestantism wanted the destruction of the Catholic Church.
The Ottoman Sultan saw Protestantism as his best ally in his fight against the Catholic Church and even gave some Protestants protection within his realms in the hope of using them against the Church.
Had the Protestants allied with the Ottomans, the Church would have definitely lost but the Protestants would have lost too, as the minute there was no Church institution to protect Europe, the Ottomans had the entirety of Europe to conquer free from any one powerful institution to stop him.
The Protestant unity was already breaking apart during his time.
With no Church to fight against, they would have scattered in the wind.
Heck, Islam was able to conquer so much of Western Asia and North Africa precisely because the Churches there were, at multiple times, in a fight against the Catholic Church and Islam gave them the cover of doing their own thing.
But as time went, they dissapeared and died out as Islam basically choked them out of existence.
This would have been the future of Europe, had the Protestants allied with the Ottomans.
Bro what, I've studied almost all works in religion and I'm a Protestant. I love Catholics like my own brothers, we agree on almost everything.
Luther married a nun? The more I hear about this guy, the less I like him.
Luther was a deeply disturbed man
He was satanic man.
He heated the Jews and wrote a book to Germany prince's how to get rid the Jews.
The advice Hitler implemented it in action.
Protestants would take nuns out of the convents and offer them to Bishops if they would convert. Notice how the violence comes from the reformers attacking lives and property, and the Church's response was never so destructive as the protestants.
Henry adopted Protestantism to bang new women, maybe Luther invented it just to bang a woman in the first place. Must have been the choirboy shortage in northern Europe 😂
@@USDebtCrisis he came from a deeply disturbed church
“Can’t be an ‘eretic if I ‘ave me own Church.”
-Big ‘Enry.
Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox can argue theology and church affairs all day long, but we all know the foundations. From Scripture we know to be saved by Grace through Faith in Christ and for God's glory ❤️🔥🙏🏻
As an Orthodox Christian, in these diabolical times the enemy is at our gates this very moment and it's unfortunate that Traditional Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox are fighting over for scraps of victory :(
britian is a majority muslim nation. so is france and sweden. guess you better learn to speak spanish if you want to keep being christian.
Which can be lost through YOUR actions
average bruhzilian
That is true, but Catholics and Orthodox recognise that Scripture isn’t the only authority. The interpreter of said scripture is also an authority, that being the Church.
I was raised protestant... during my teenage edgy-emo years I became an atheist ,years later I became more agnostic, and now I consider myself more of a spiritual Christian, just not from any institution.
I've considered converting to catholicism, since I tend to agree more with theological view (as well as other points of view)..... but I'm afraid of feeling lonely...
That's a reasonable concern, we all know the Faith is to be lived in fraternity! However you should consider hopping by your parish and just ask if they do some activity for your age range, it's a great opportunity to make new friends! Give it a shot, thinking about converting can come later, get to know the people there first!
Don't take this as an offense but loneliness shouldn't be your fear. You have God, Jesus Christ and a Guardian Angel watching over you (if you're in the State of Grace). When going to Church, the only important relationship is between you and God. Everyone is a sinner so be careful.
Please consider Orthodoxy as well before you make your decision
@@n4ughty_knight oh, I know that.
I will pray for your conversion.
As a Southern Baptist Protestant it breaks my heart every time I see or hear people condemning the Catholic Church without recognizing the contributions it has made to our Faith and our species azls a whole. I agree wholeheartedly that protestantism is filled with so many pointless schisms and divides over trivial matters that impede our ability to evangelize. As someone who loves history it's also sad to see how this event shattered Europe, and I have to thank Pax Tube for highlighting the influence of secular, nascent nation-states more concerned with their own ambitions than the solidarity of Christianity and Europe.
Thank you for your content. Now I'm wondering if we'll get a video on the Great Schism also
As a Catholic, I deeply appreciate that. My only advice to you would be to keep reading the Church Fathers and let that take you where it may. I'll be waiting for you! Peace and love.
How kind of you, what a beautiful comment! "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God" ❤
.. And now American Protestants have trans-priests.. and a non-binary god.
Hurray for Luther.
As a Presbyterian, I totally disagree but it's fascinating seeing the Catholic perspective. God bless you brother!✝✝✝
We're so back, Viva Cristo Rey! 🇻🇦
If you believe on Jesus you will be saved.
All sinners can be saved
@@xcm3069 Certainly, all sinners can be saved! In fact, God desires this very thing. That is why He has provided humanity with the sacraments as a means to spiritually strengthen us and help us stay in a state of grace until our death.
@@tolkeinlewis3546 Jesus’ blood sanctifies us not eating bread. Recive the offering that’s it, then you ARE sanctified, then you HAVE eternal life, eternal life does not end.
Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified
You believe that’s it, you have grace you don’t need to do any works to be saved
It’s either Grace or works not both
Rom 11:6
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
@@tolkeinlewis3546 my friend you don’t need to maintain your salvation, then you would have saved yourself and you could boast in heaven.
But we are told salvation is “not of ourselves” that means works, law obedience anything that you do.
Eph 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
@@xcm3069look... STOP interpreting holy scripture.
You don't have the education nor background for that.
....and btw, it isn't the"holy spirit" telling you anything... And you are open to being being led by devil.
Is it possible to be more back
Eiii its Zoomer Historian!!!
I don't understand your comment. Am I missing something?
@@1685Violin "to be back" is a phrase used to say that someone has come back to a status of glory, in this case its being used as a humorous way of conveing the fact that Pax has come back by making a new video.
ZH, would you consider doing some videos about the crusades too? just finished your Franco video today, it didn't feel like 3 hours so good job
@@arturnicaciodeandrade9861 I've never heard that phrase being used that way. Is this late Zoomer slang that was overlooked by an early Zoomer like me?
I'm protestant but I love and respect Catholicism for protecting Europe and helping create Western Civilization and honestly there wouldn't be protestantism without Catholicism. I will say I would rather be Catholic than non-denominational.
Return home, brother.
If the vatican had it's way you'd be burned at a stake. They did exactly this among other tortures like the popes pear ect. They stopped bible translations and created a political power. It's not Christian
Catholics didnt hep create western civilisation as you know it. They even did everything to not make it happen. All the progress you see came from protestant ideas....
Afterwards, Protestantism took what was best in Catholicism, purified what had to be purified, intensified missionary activities, improved Catholic theology and built the most successful countries in the world.
You are welcomed to return any time.
It is great to see Pax posting again. His views on Christianity are based and unlike some channels who pretend to be Christians, who are afraid to speak ill of Jews.
I am Jewish I am not sure why you think there is anything wrong with speaking Ill of some Jews , but to generalize and to hate as a group is not fair. What did I do to you?
I did. I don't like some actions by individuals in my group (and, as mentioned earlier, disagree with them), but the same criticism you're applying to Jews applies to any other group. Do you admit all the crimes by Christianity or whatever group you're part of? Most don't. That's just how it works, unfortunately.@Wicker_
@@Michaelabehsera21 I agree, it is always wrong to generalize, but most Jews are and has been wicked. Modern Judaism is what is known as Rabbinic Judaism, part of it relies heavily on the Talmud. Its teachings encourage Jews to commit atrocities against non-Jews, it claims that Jesus Christ is boiling in hell, and Virgin Mary was an idolatress. For these reasons Jews has been expelled from Europe more than 100 times. However, there are a few kind Jews. We ask God to guide them to the right path.
What a great and pious reason to admire someone's thoughts, distaste for Jewry. I'm sure you're loving and nuanced about it and aren't being an idiot like so many others.
@Wicker_My brother in Christ, do you realize who you sound like with those talking points? Replace 'jew' with 'white male' in the same post and then think very carefully about the line of logic you are agreeing with as a result.
Not a Single Cent to Israel
Based
Even Luther himself would agree with that! Maybe we should get evangelicals to read what he said about the chosen people....
@@soraya2218 St John Chrysostom was even more hardcore than Luther on regards to them.
@@soraya2218 People were JPed back then.
@@malicant123 yup kinda crazy how they managed to completely turn it around within just a few generations. Look up pretty much any influential and revered historical figure followed by "antisemitism" and you're sure to get some results lol
In the words of Martin Luther: "bruh"
Also Martin Luther, “Christ committed adultery first of all with the woman at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: “Whatever has he been doing with her?” Secondly, with Mary Magdalene, and thirdly with the woman taken in adultery whom he dismissed so lightly. Thus even Christ, who was so righteous, must have been guilty of fornication before He died.”
Yeah, seems like some self justification here.
@@kyrptonite1825 Luther absolutely did NOT say that. Here is an article talking about how much of a fabrication that is:
beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2005/12/luther-said-christ-committed-adultery.html
@@soraya2218do you not understand that as a quote poking fun of them? Or can you not understand 16th century irony? Because go on Google and search up "Martin Luther quote on jews" and see him say how their baptisms should be to drown them in rivers.
@@kyrptonite1825Catholics are pagans. Cope
@@kyrptonite1825 pagan
Souther Baptist here: I appreciate your opening stating that this isn’t meant to cause a religious divide. I think a lot of traditional Catholics tend to regard all Protestants as heretics (despite Vatican II). That being said, I do take issue with several things said in the video, and I say this not to be divisive either, rather to respectfully debate your position.
1. Protestants (to my knowledge) have not argued that the Reformation was purely about ecclesiastical or financial abuse. We have always argued that it was meant to address Medieval accretions and retrieve the teachings of the Patristic Era.
2. The association of Baptists (who affirm the Holy Trinity and eternality of the Holy Trinity) with Mormons and JWs who deny this fundamental Christian doctrine is slightly aggravating lol. Even Protestants regard these cults as heretical.
3. The argument that Luther was teaching new doctrine is simply not the case. Wessel Gansfort taught Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide decades before the Reformation. It’s more apt to say that there were differing schools of thought among Catholics at the time, and the Counter-Reformation canonized the non-Protestant position. Also, Protestants do not deny that good works are a part of salvation. But, we believe that we are justified by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone and that good works are a testament to a living faith in Christ (see James 2).
I appreciate all the effort that you put into this video and I’d like to see a dialogue between you and Gavin Ortlund at some point! I think you’ll find that he’s very gracious and well read. God bless you brother!
Perfectly said!
Regarding your statement to "retrieve the teachings of the Patristic Era", consider Ignatius of Antioch's letter to the Smyrnaeans, written circa AD 110:
"You must all follow the lead of the bishop, as Jesus Christ followed that of the Father; follow the presbytery as you would the Apostles; reverence the deacons as you would God's commandment. Let no one do anything touching the Church, apart from the bishop. Let that celebration of the Eucharist be considered valid which is held under the bishop or anyone to whom he has committed it. Where the bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not permitted without authorization from the bishop either to baptize or to hold an agape; but whatever he approves is also pleasing to God. Thus everything you do will be proof against danger and valid."
"From Eucharist and prayer they hold aloof, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the Flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father in His loving-kindness raised from the dead. And so, those who question the gift of God perish in their contentiousness."
A cursory study of the early church fathers - and i would encourage everyone to do that - shows without a doubt that the early church was the Catholic church.
LiamSGue, you say: " The argument that Luther was teaching new doctrine is simply not the case. Wessel Gansfort taught Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide decades before the Reformation". Luther did not appeal to one Church Father as having believed the viewpoint that he held. Luther realized none of them taught his sola fide (as he understood justifying faith. According to Luther Augustine erred, all the fathers erred. His faith alone, his Sola (private interpretation of )Scriptura. New doctrines from some one's views abou Scripture. Sola Scriptura is a nice deceiving slogan: There is simply no way around this: every act of reading Scripture is simultaneously an act of interpreting Scripture.What sola scriptura means in practice, then, is not “the Bible alone as an authority for faith and morals,” but “someone’s interpretation of the Bible as the authority for faith and morals.”
As everyone who has ever sat in a small-group Bible study knows, this leads to disagreements. Because there is no outside interpretive authority to which to appeal for guidance, these disagreements are impossible to resolve. That is why, from the beginning of the Reformation, Protestants broke up into splinter groups based on divergent readings of the same texts from the same Bible.
@@sigmacronos9382 Yes lets go back to AD 110 and throw out all of augustinian theology. Then the catholic church wont exist either.
@@Alfredo8059 Evenif you were right, all protestants would become orthodox. Catholics have been wrong for a lot longer than 500 years.
Bro really put Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen as the face of protestantism 💀
😅
Right. Like really? The vast majority of Protestants actively denounce them.
@@user-tb5sq6jm2yhahah they are protestants my friend, so the protestantism this is. They split, split and split 😂
@@LuisGuillermoWongVelez You have to understand, there was the reformation and the radical reformation, the reformation birthed just Anglicans, Lutherans, Presbyterians, and (tangentially) Methodists. The radical reformation embodies ever criticism Catholics have about Protestantism.
It's about as helpful as when a Protestant brings up pedophile priests as representatives of Catholicism.
next video: christian denominations tier list
I demand the quality of casseroles be given serious consideration.🤣
S Tier: Catholicism
A Tier: Orthodox
Heretics Tier: everyone else
@@bushy9780 the only valid take!
@soraya2218 orthodox are further from catholics in terms of the trinity than protestants and catholics. Please watch redeemed zoomer
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I’m Lutheran and I think this video was well done and was created in good faith. However I do have some criticisms about it. Having a religion gain traction because authorities forced their beliefs on their citizens doesn’t automatically discredit its theology. Their are numerous examples of Catholicism spreading this way. Second there was wide spread violence on both sides. Such as the St Bartholomew day massacre in France. In which tens of thousands of Protestants were slaughtered. Third the United States is far more religious than most traditionally catholic countries such as France and Spain. Even though it is Protestant. Lastly Mormons and JW’s are not Christian. They are cults that reject the trinity. I look forward to the day when all earthy divisions will cease and we can worship together in heaven. Christ is king!
I am Catholic and I think your comment is very good. God bless, brother!
France is secualrised and brought to atheism and Spain too ... can't really compare them with the USA . Poor souls that lives in france what indoctrination they are being put inot to turn atheist ( I live there ... ) This day could happen my friend where we could all unite ( under the Catholic churh since it is the Church founded by Chriust and given to St peter ) with love .
Spreading a truth and church given by God Himself is different than spreading one founded by a rebellious monk.
As an American Catholic, I very much appreciate your comment!
I feel as though it would be ideal to have Lutherans and Catholics work together where we still agree to teach and convert others against the false teachings that have continued to run wild.
Against many, this would work, but for others, it would require hiistorical Church historgraphy in order to contextualize the proper answers. Otherwise, some will keep claiming their interpretation is valid and the "real" truth by the same subjective legitimacy, or the Bible or the Church changed a teaching and covered it up despite the fact they can't prove that nonsense claim.
St Luke, Mark, and Matthew also reject 'the Trinity' when they chronicled how God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are 3 different personages.
He just doesn't miss. I'm currently going to a protestant church and want to get baptized. That made me start to wonder if my denomination (Pentecostal) was correct because I obviously want to be baptized into the most theologically accurate denomination. So about 3 months ago I started to do research into many different denominations. I was at first, opposed to becoming a Catholic (mostly from the media hate) but over time and after research, I have found the Catholic church to be the most accurate. Obviously my own research pales in comparison to what others have done previously but the Catholics are obviously without a doubt the only denomination that has its stuff together. What I mean by that is while they do have their own arguments within the church, they don't just separate, they figure out what the issue is and debate it in the church. I greatly appreciate my protestant friend who brought me to the Christian faith (used to be atheist) to begin with but I will be leaving the church we both attend and go through RCIA. I volunteer at my current church so it will probably be over the course of a few months just to make sure I'm not screwing them over in any way but I'm excited to become a Catholic.
Welcome to the one true church Jesus started.
Welcome brother
"O Lady, may thy light be the splendor of my countenance: and let the serenity of thy grace shine upon my mind.
Raise up my head: and I will sing a psalm to thy name.
Turn not away thy face from me: for from my youth up I have greatly desired thy beauty and thy grace.
I have loved thee and sought after thee, O Queen of Heaven: withdraw not thy mercy and thy grace from thy servant.
I will give praise to thee in the nations: and I will honor the throne of thy glory."
An excerpt from the Psalter to Mary, a catholic psalter.
This is *totally* not idolatry, they will say.
@@memeboi6017 You're right... because it's not idolatry. Mary deserves praise too my guy. She kind of ya know, birthed our savior
@memeboi6017 Does Marian devotion trigger you? It's okay if it does. Join the others who persecute the church Jesus started.
I saw someone requesting a video on The Great Schism and would love to see that.
I would also like to suggest video exploring The Second Vatican Council. I've recently started doing some light digging into this topic, and I keep running into a lot of "usual suspects" influencing the drastic changes it brought. Additionally, it was apparently the biggest modern episode of The Catholic Church losing many members. The more I dig into it, the more questions appear and one can begin to "notice" a certain pattern of events.
God bless you and your hard work putting together all this research. Thank you!
Viva Cristo Rey!
>doesn't mention the great schism of 1054.
Glory to God Brothers ☦️
Ah yes because it's not like the Orthodoxy had their own schism back in 2018 or anything like that
Maybe because then the positions would be actually nuanced and would have to put in great effort to prove his arguements. At least the theological ones.
Why would he cover that when the video literally says it's about the Protestant Reformation? Not that I wouldn't want to see him cover the early church/catacomb church up to the Great Schism.
@@duncanharrell5009 Because its all in relation. Frankly not covering it is just wrong. He even claims the Eastern Roman Emperors were heads of the Orthodox church which is just not the case.
@@grekusPotatus could be, God only knows. I personally find it kinda lazy and disingenuous because the few times he mentions Orthodoxy in the video he gets the facts wrong.
*The Body of Christ has always been a united set of doctrines as believers and followers of Christ have believed and obeyed them as stated in The New Testament.* All heretical doctrines that rebel against the Truth of The Gospel of Christ and the Apostles' directions to the early church are damnable and come from a false faith.
*The Protestant Reformation didn't teach "new doctrines". They taught what was IN THE BIBLE rather than what the Roman Catholic religion taught,* such as the celibate priesthood, that Mary was sinless, perpetually a virgin, was assumed bodily into heaven, and her "Divine Motherhood", the veneration of "saints", the insistence that both the Bible and its message be spoken in Latin, and the pagan heresy of "transubstantiation" where the elements of communion mystically become the literal flesh and blood of Christ Jesus. These doctrines have been proclaimed by Roman Catholicism but they cannot be verified through examination of the scriptures.
Protestant reformers did not reject Roman Catholicism because of its corrupt behavior, they rejected it because it did not conform with THE WORD OF GOD. Its beliefs were deemed upon examination of the scriptures to be blasphemy, a gnostic cult that was contaminating the Body of Christ.
Also, the Reformation did not spread very quickly because it was heavily oppressed and its leaders were hunted down like dogs. No debates were allowed questioning Roman Catholic authority, which came solely from itself. Precedence of its authority came not from the writings of the Four Gospels or the Apostles' letters to the early church, but rather from ancient gnostic fallacies that the Apostles warned the church about. Questioning these fallacies was dealt with swiftly and harshly.
*Papal authority IS Caesaropapism.* Its very structure of blessing and cursing anyone acknowledged by it had a deep political significance. When "The Church" blessed a king it gave validity to their authority to rule, otherwise their authority was dismissed and an entire nation's prestige was denigrated. This sometimes led to conspiracies to overthrow such governments. Also, it could "excommunicate" anyone it saw fit, regardless of whether they were actually apostates toward the Word of God. In this fashion, they could condemn many people to death regardless of what boundaries they resided in.
*"The Authority Of The Church" is ARBITRARY and its claim to be "infallible" is falsified by the mere fact that IT HAS BEEN WRONG SO OFTEN.* The authority of SCRIPTURE is ESSENTIAL because it is the entire basis of the Christian faith regarding who Christ IS, His redeeming work, and what is necessary to be saved from eternal punishment. The notion that "The Authority of the Church" can save or condemn anyone is blasphemy. That doctrine comes from the church itself rather than what was taught by either Christ Himself or His Apostles.
*"The Authority Of The Church" IS ILLEGITIMATE because it proclaims itself as being ABOVE scripture.* How can it be the following of Christ himself when it rejects the ultimate authority of what its faith is supposed to be about? The Word of God is unchanging and has been eternal from the beginning of time, yet "The Authority Of The Church" can add or subtract from it at will and that is, again, blasphemy. Basing what you believe to be "true" on "what The Church says" is folly because what it says can be or not be when it is expedient for them.
Protestantism was not about "splitting from "The Church" but rather declaring the truth of God's Word and denouncing error that had dressed itself up as "Christian". I attend a "Southern Baptist Church" but I do NOT give any significance to what the body of believers calls themselves. The ONLY thing that matters to me is whether what is preached there is Biblical. If and when a "Reformer" behaved in a manner that was contrary to the Gospel of Christ and the teachings of His Apostles, they did so as wolves with no more spiritual authority than The Pope, the human and fallible man who presumes to be the "INFALLIBLE" embodiment of Christ on Earth, which is as blasphemous as any other Roman Catholic belief.
*The Roman Catholic Church IS ABOVE ALL ELSE SUBJECTIVE AND ARBITRARY since it deems ITSELF as "the authority" rather than THE ETERNAL WORD OF GOD.* It is no different from Mormonism which proclaims itself as the sole source of truth from the beginning of time, rather than The Holy Bible. It is irrational for a body of FALLIBLE MEN to call themselves the sole authority of what is true or false. The Bible is called "The Word Of God" because that is what it IS, and for Roman Catholics to say that their faith alone is the only authority determining truth and error is abominable, and it denies any relevancy of the source of truth that guides fallen men and women toward Grace, Redemption, and Salvation through Christ Jesus ALONE.
Let me end this with what Christ said in Matthew 7 about many who proclaimed to be Christ's followers:
13 *Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:*
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, *and few there be that find it.*
It does not matter how many billions of "Catholics" or "Protestants" there are because many will go the way of falsehood for any number of "reasons", but FEW will come to truly know the way to salvation. Also:
21 *Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.*
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 *And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.*
What a person calls the church-like institution they attend or themselves is IRRELEVANT. The only thing that matters is who Christ is to you and whether you've come to know Him as your Lord and Savior, determining Him as such according to the scriptures. If you determine your faith according to the truth of the scriptures, then you can be saved. If your determination comes from what your "church" tells you rather than the scriptures, then you are NOT saved. You still live in your sins.
Nice copy and paste. But the Protestant Reformation taught new doctrine which had never been taught before. It rejects the Holy Spirit as not properly leading the church for the previous 15 centuries. It replace God protected interpretation of the bible with human.
The thing is: even then - catholicism is still the better option. Protestantism is a de-spiritualized obscure, oftentimes just laughable, sometimes even demonic cult. I mean who exactly gave us satanic bullshit like the "prosperity gospel"? Who fragmented Christianity because of hubristic fights about petty theological questions while losing the big picture? Protestantism was first of all a cult of philosophical hermeneutics; their faith was fully based in logical deduction - they believed in their own interpretative self-constructs more than in the mystery of Christ and God. They killed Christ, faith and church on the altar of "human reason".
It's good that you read the Holy Bible.
A beautiful Catholic book!
People turned away from the correct belief just like they did in John 6 when Jesus taught his flesh is the bread from heaven and He said to chew on it
@@alhilford2345 Yes, the book that is false according to Roman Catholicism because it isn't read and spoken of in Latin. It is also the book that speaks nothing regarding venerating Mary or Saints, which is idolatry. It also speaks nothing of Popes or anyone embodying Christ's presence on earth. All of that is blasphemy and corruption of Christ's gospel and HIS AUTHORITY ALONE for our salvation.
Catholics like to criticise Protestants, but self criticism is the best virtue. Why start the story from 1517 and not 800?
Not the point of the video.
And the Catholic Church began in 33 AD.
@@theuglydumplings3324
“The Catholic Church began in 33AD”
Using Jesus to say when your church began doesn’t say anything since literally everyone could say that; even the Muslims say it!
The real number looks like it around 600 AD and it officially started in 1215 AD for Roman Catholic Church
@@buddy_132 read the 7 letters of st ignatius of antioch and get back to me
@@buddy_132no not even close. People went to Pope Clement when they could have gone to the Apostle John to settle disputes or ask for advice. If you think you are right you don’t have to try to rewrite history. Just say that is an argument from continuation or history and not proof in itself. You are doing an evangelical disservice otherwise as you are wrong when it comes to this point even though it isn’t necessary for your argument.
@@zacharyahearn4069
Yeah credibility falls by the wayside when the Catholic Church throws the title of pope on early church fathers like Peter and Clement.
In fact the first time the word “Pope” was even used was over a 200 years after Christs death:
The earliest record of the use of the title of 'pope' was in regard to the by-then-deceased patriarch of Alexandria, Heraclas (232-248).
Besides the word games, the definition of a Pope being a supreme leader among the followers of Christ was never mentioned in the pages of scripture nor does Peter claimed He was above any other apostle or follower of Christ, but he rather pointed to Jesus Christ and said “Follow Him, the Son of God”.
Protestantism opened the door to the Enlightenment.
Another reason it was bad
@Juan-qu4oj Nothing enlightened about the enlightenment, it's just philosophical narcissism.
Which opened the door to USA. the greatest bestest country ever. FIRST. Just ask any magat
@@user-tb5sq6jm2y France was never Protestant is had Protestants in it but it was always Catholic
@@Juan-qu4oj I meant Catholic, sorry.
He is back with another banger 🔥✝️☦😎
Christ's truth as revealed in scripture is more important than political unity. I'm sorry if that's inconvenient for the power of the Vatican.
Did you seriously call Mormons and JW's a Protestant denomination? 💀
I know right, as a latter day saint, it's insulting to see how badly he sees the theology of protestantism and the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. One google can clear this guy's confusion in less than a second.
@@JtWYeah where would you place yourself if not a protestant? If you say you are a restoration of a prior "true church", doesn't that still place you in a position of protesting the alleged false church that rose up?
In what way are they not?
@@JtWYeah Sorry LDS is a cult, flee from it for your own good.
@@stevenhazel4445 I know your question was directed to the JtW but Protestants would say rejecting fundamentals of the faith like the Nature of God, the deity of Christ salvation (broadly speaking) is a different religion entirely even if they use similar language. Also complete restoration and what the Reformers tried to do is very different. Luther didn't say everything the church did for the last 1500 years was wrong unlike Smith who had a "vision" from God.
Great and informative video, well done Pax!
- From a danish identitarian also former protestant, now catholic 🇻🇦
next video: why the abolition of slavery was worse than you think (its just a joke , i love your vids)
It was never abolished
Your opponents will take your comment out of context.
It shouldn't have been done, as now we are stuck with them.
@@vorynrosethorn903ok that’s horrible and stupid at the same time.
So abolishing slavery was wrong because we would be stuck with black people, even though the slavery in question involves being stuck with black people.
Blacks are no different from whites, this is not the channel for you if you think otherwise.
Abe wanted to send ‘em back, but echoes had different ideas
Orthodox Christian here☦️ great video my friend! Would love to see some vids on catholic vs orthodox, you always give a fair shake.
Didn't really give a fair shake to protestants here.
He lied bro
He called you guys Caesaropapists. Is that a fair take?
@@Procopius464
No, its a straight up lie.
The Byzantine emperor was never the head of the church.
The church and state worked in something called "symphonia".
Peter the "great" tried imposing something like caeseropapism on Russia, but he has a negative reputation for it.
@@ThorsteinnMemeson That's what he said in the video.
We can thank Protestants for what is happening to America today.
Nah I can think of another religion that helped shape the media, politics and social values of today. But I'm not allowed to mention them or UA-cam would censor me.
I respect PaxTube for this video. He made some good points and is completely respectful but I feel he didn't give enough respect to some of the Protestant beliefs but I guess that wouldn't make sense in turn to the video.
The biggest problem I had was him grouping us with Jehovah's witnesses, LGBTQ Churches and mormans plus others but those are the main ones. They are not Christians at all and the other thing is when it comes to LGBTQ Churches, I've seen both Catholic and Protestant Churches like that and I wouldn't apply it to the Church itself.
I'd apply it to the fact that most Protestants leave a Church that has any signs of that and just makes their own Church instead of taking the Church itself back.
Also when it comes to Prosperity Churches, they've been condemned by almost every Protestant denomination.
It's always a cycle of Christians running away but there are Protestant movements trying to take them back, the reconquestia movement started by redeemed zoomer is trying to take back progressive Churches.
But I'll be honest, Protestants support the Jews and act like we need to since it's the holy land even though the Jews are now Christians and Israel is now the Church after Christ.
Protestants support Talmud Jews too for some reason when they practice some of the worst, satanic rituals known to man.
What Protestants really need to do is to stop running away and take back their Churches and stop focussing on the Jews so much, so we can glorify Christ Amen 🙏
Can’t wait to see you get over 100k subs man. I can’t think of someone who deserves it more, been subbed since 20k.
Haven't watched the whole video yet, but if there is a hill i'll die on is that neo-pentecostalism is an absolute joke. Sorry if you belong to that denomination.
No it’s terrible. I’m becoming catholic (praise the Lord) but I came from a Pentecostal whatever church. Then I started to research church history and the early church and theology and I was like “holy crap, this is the total opposite of what my church teaches”…..
If you believe on Jesus you will be saved.
All sinners can be saved
Used to be pentecostal. Catholic now
The Church Fathers understood that Christ endowed the Church with authority to interpret Scripture-part of “binding and loosing”-precisely because the alternative was endless heresies and schisms.
It’s either Catholic Christianity in which the faith and its meaning are publicly accessible and binding on all; or gnostic “Christianity,” in which the faith and its meaning are privately accessible according to a sect’s/individual’s interpretation, and “binding” on only those who agree with it.
Under Roman Catholicism, only the monks were literate which is why Europe was in the dark ages.
It is a testament to the veracity of the Catholic Faith that the Catholics still believe the same stuff they believed 500 years ago, yet the Protestants today would've been executed by the Protestant Founders like Henry VIII, Calvin, and Luther.
Just this afternoon, I walked past a Presbyterian Church with a large, stained-glass window depicting Jesus Christ. I just couldn't stop but laugh to myself. King Philip II of Spain would be laughing, too, considering he had to fight a war with Calvinists that started with them desecrating images of Christ in the Netherlands. Presbyterians are followers of Calvinism, which was an iconoclastic faith, seeing all physical depictions of Christ as idolatry. Yet here one Calvinist Church stands with one such icon. If John Calvin could see that, he'd throw a stone at it and get mad at the parishioners.
It also stands to the veracity of Catholicism that the strongest Protestant denominations now are not the ones that dominated the era of the 1500s-1900s. Calvinism, which used to be the darling of Protestantism, is now a withered shell of its former self. Lutheranism is a dying husk. Methodists are barely hanging on. The superpowers of Protestantism are the Trump-worshiping Evangelicals and the non-denominationals. Catholicism will keep on going and will outlast all of them, just as they outlived Calvinism and Lutheranism back when those still had actual power.
My mother is Lutheran and my father was a Calvinist (I converted and attend the TLM pre-'55 rite). I approve this message. 👍
@@katydidd6321 Thank you. I can only wonder how a household led by two contrasting voices managed to survive for so long. Maybe they didn't care much about theology.
@@HolyknightVader999 It didn't survive at all, my parents divorced when I was 8 and my little brother and me practically had to fend for ourselves in a sketchy area full of sketchy people.
My life before Catholicism is a testament to the necessity of Catholicism, good and holy priests, Adoration, Penance, and God's endless capacity for forgiveness. 😞
@@katydidd6321 God Bless you. It really is hard to raise a household when the spouses disagree on religion.
@@HolyknightVader999the problem is non denominational churches seem to be the loudest voice in Protestantism
Now, and they usually aren’t great theologically
This video was a long time coming.
Time to make a "What If the Protestant Reformation didn't happen"?
Good to see more people catching on!
If you believe on Jesus you will be saved.
All sinners can be saved
@@duncanharrell5009 If the Protestant Reformation didn't happen, then you'd still have the Catholic Reformation from guys like Erasmus and Ignatius of Loyola. The Council of Trent still would have put an end to the selling of indulgences. It just may have happened more gradually than it did.
Monsieur Z? That's crazy! I love your videos man.
One question that makes me weary of joining the Catholic church...and I say that as someone openly considering it, or trying to find another protestant denomination...but didn't the Pope call for blessing LGBT unions a couple months back, and aren't a lot of secular members of the US government like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden Catholic, yet very openly pro-LGBT, abortion and other such issues? Yes, the mainline protestant churches are just as bad as you say, and as bad as the catholic politicians, but many protestant groups have split off of the mainline, to be more theologically conservative versions of the broken mainline denominations. Though, I will agree that is a lot like the breaking away from each other you mentioned Protestants do a lot.
Our Church may be in rough seas, but we always pull through, 2000 years of doing so won't end now!
Those politicians are not practicing Catholics, as the catechism teaches, and this isn't the first time we've had a questionable pope. If it's any consolation, the newer generation of Catholics is quickly embracing the notion that Vatican II and its consequences were a mistake. This was never going to be easy, and I applaud you for the courage to seek the truth.
If Joe Biden claims to be a Catholic and endorses a twisted marriage, or abortion, maybe he isn’t what he claims to be.
@@bikesrcool_1958 Joe Briben couldn't wait a day or two. He had to announce the trans day on Easter.
Fiducia Supplicans does NOT bless gay people. The Pope has openly stated that you cannot bless homosexuality.
Im a reformed baptist here
1st, Love your work brother! Keep it up!
I think the layout is wrong. Luther didnt revolt from day 1. He deeply wanted to reform the church and, Atleast, get rid of paying for the dead :(.
It was only after his sham trial that he had to settle with the reality that this would not be possible
Could you also provide the sources of the media you use in your videos? You'll use scenes from films and shows that I don't know of but look interesting.
Pax trying not to be based challenge (impossible)
Pax is not based here so I guess it is possible
@@johnathanl8396 OK Proddie
@@olekcholewa8171 OK guy-whose-head-of-their-Church-loves-gays
@@johnathanl8396 Episcopalians?
@@Arpitan_Carpenter Francis my boy
tin the immortal words of buffalo springfield< "nobody is right if everybody's wrong"
Been following for less than a month but you’re quickly turning into one of my favorite channels! Keep up the awesome work!
Southern Baptist fan of yours here - I love Catholics, and what I know of Catholicism. This is a great video, even though I naturally disagree with the final conclusion. I feel that the Reformation was inevitable; we are a flawed species, and institutions of authority can easily succumb to corruption in one way or another.
I feel that today, given the diversity of people in the world, the idea that there are different churches the Holy Spirit can speak to the different kinds of people makes it so that everyone can find a church they enjoy going to.
That obviously comes with pitfalls, but I have faith in the Holy Spirit and Jeremiah 29:13, and if we are true in our desire to follow God, He will take care of us.
I feel the Catholic Church is critical in the world today - not just for those Christians who find fellowship in the Holy Spirit in the traditions, ceremony, and doctrine of Catholicism, but with the power the organization can hold and wield for His will on earth. The scale in outreach and charity boggles the mind. I'm grateful it's not a competition, lolz.
As for the effects of secular humanism/atheism/wokeness/etc., that I believe is simply a sign of the times, and is a plague for all of us. Many Catholic countries are suffering from it also, not just where Protestantism has taken root, but there is a very strong case to be made for "what if we all saw the Bride of Christ as one single force today?".
We are a fallen, broken species. I would love it if Christianity spoke with a sole, powerful, unified voice - but admit that that voice would be just as fallen and broken as we are.
I think the moral of the story of the Protestant Reformation is... "This is why we can't have nice things." And Protestants have had to learn those lessons as much as the RCC did 400 years ago.
Videos like these are crucial to understanding how complex Faith can be, and need to be well received by Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox alike.
The Catholic Church shepherded Christ's teachings for centuries, and no matter what, that is cause for gratefulness and reverence from all of her younger, more petulant sisters.
Thanks for the wisdom you share - know that it will be remembered.
Brother, as a fellow Baptist I have to tell you not to believe 99% of what Pax said in this video. While we can all be sad over division, we can NOT tolerate guys like Pax actively lying about our legitimate denomination. We Prots hold Scripture as the one infallible rule of faith - something multiple Church Fathers are attested to holding and something that the Catholic Church has abandoned in countless instances.
We can not say that the "Catholic Church shepherded Christ's teachings for centuries" faithfully. Catholics not only abandoned Scriptural doctrine - but actively genocided the faithful Reformers who tried to restore it back. Don't be fooled.
don't care + didn't read + it was not inevitable + there's no salvation outside of the Catholic Church
@@johnathanl8396The reformers killed Catholics all the same, that’s a non argument. Also please quote the church fathers that agree with the Baptist view, I’ll wait.
@@nathanielus5296 Brother, it is true that they have not yet found their way. But we ought to be more charitable I believe, otherwise they’ll never see the beauty of Christ’s church. Let us be fishers of man
@@lothara.schmal5092 The earliest non-Scriptural document from the Church is the Didache which is a catechism that advocates for Baptism for believers only (saying that the Baptized must fast for two days which infants can't do obviously).
Other than that, since I can't quote a Church figure that advocates for believers-only baptism, I go to Scripture as my sole source for that belief. If I am convinced of infant baptism being better than I would go to Presbyterianism or Lutheranism, definitely not the travesty of Rome.
A very good history of the reformation from the Catholic point of view. That's a voice seldom heard that needs to be added to the discussion. I was raised in the Lutheran church and they obviously have a different story to tell. Now I'm an unbeliever, as opposed to a disbeliever. Show me some truth. I've known many good men and women who were Catholic, just as I've known many good men and women who were Protestant. Not to mention Muslim and Jewish, as well as Hindu , Buddhist, and atheist. If there is a god, I'm sure he would weight the heart more than the imaginings of the human mind.
Egidio Lopez a Spanish Catholic intelectual has a book on this: Las Reformas Protestantes. This event was really critical and not innocent, there is no freedom of the believer under Protestantism, just national churches controlled by the power of politicians and burgoisie. Francisco de Vitoria opposed to Protestantism because he proposed a better separation solution between Church and State.
The Eastern Orthodox Church (as opposed to the "Oriental Orthodox Church) is the second largest denomination after the Roman Catholics. Protestantism is the third largest denomination NOT THE SECOND. This blind spot was caused by the great schism then worsened by the protestant reformation and the era of enlightenment.
I'm sorry, but could you please elaborate your comment? I indeed notice the glaring lack of mention of any Orthodox Christianity in the video, but as far as I've seen and known, Eastern Orthodoxy are mostly in Russia and Eastern Europe. The combined population there should be around 150-180 million at most. The metric used to measure the size of denomination here is the number of followers, as far as I'm aware... Thank you
Protestantism is bigger. If you were to talk about a specific denomination, then maybe
@@waterkorrel2388 My point precisely. Collectively protestants are 2nd but Church by church Orthodoxy us 2nd and the way the Catholics are protestantantizing via Vatican 2 watering down tradition, they will be hemorrhaging large numbers and the Eastern Orthodox Church will come out on top.
Great video.
I would highly recommend you make your next video about the Russian revolution on why it was worse than you think.
There is a reason why our Lady of Fatima warned about the errors of the Russian revolution in 1917.
Great idea!
Man, my family lost so much because of the revolution
@michaelbarry6589 it is because of the errors of the Russian revolution that lead to Vatican II.
We must pray for our brothers in all things.
As a High Church Prot, low blow to use the low church leaders like Olsteen as representation for us. Anglicans and Lutherans are not similar to the Baptists in a liturgical sense(No offense baptists, I was one of you) Still like your vids keep it up, but try to not overgeneralize such a broad topic like this
He doesn't care.
It must suck to have so many people leave your Church in order to promote heresy and push a distorted version of Christianity. 🤔
Low church Baptist here, no offense taken. Kenneth Copeland was on screen right before, and he's even more blatantly heretical. The strawmanning from a fellow believer is really disheartening. Especially after so many awesome videos like the crusade and inquisition one. This just helps the secular opposition as a result.
@ignatiusjackson235 if you actually look at the origin of protestantism, they were basically the dissonant right of their day. The church was corrupt like the modern us government
@@billytheconqueror5803 The "dissonant right" is a good thing? Leave it to a Prot to place their faith in politics, I guess. What have you done for worker's rights lately? 🤔
As a protestant who is trying to decide between converting to Catholicism or Orthodoxy, I enjoyed this presentation. Thank You!
Stick with protestantism, most of these people will not tell you an unbiased viewpoint that doesn't make protestantism look bad when there's more to it.
I was in the same boat as you a couple months ago. I went Catholic and got confirmed not too long ago.
I became Catholic, protesting was getting really old once I realized my theology was changing every month. I had my objections with the Church when I decided to become Catholic but those were irrelevant once papal authority was confirmed in my mind. Today I'm a lot more healthy in Christ and I'm growing in faith everyday, I feel actually like I'm a part of the body of Christ not just some solo guy pretending.
I did consider Orthodoxy and at first was more drawn to it. But only because I wanted an excuse to keep protesting really, Orthodoxy isn't the whole picture. One simple example can be seen in the fact that it has no religious orders properly speaking, or that it's still undecided on the Canon of the Bible, or that there exists no definition for what makes a council infallible as opposed to not, which effectively means Orthodoxy is not the First Millennium Church.
Bro the video is bad
Just as others have said. Such a video is mixed at best. Many claims about Protestantism were false, other dubious (just as the one about the Orthodox Church) and some others were actually fair criticisms.
However, when looking to join the Church whether that be Orthodox or Roman Catholic (both receive Communion from one another) is their actual differences.
Do you believe in the filioque? The venteration of icons? Pastor marriage? etc
These are the kinds of question syou should be asking to yourself.
One of the best religious history documentaries I’ve ever seen. Great job!
15:58
What's crazy here is that the catholic church sole claim for this authority is the scriptures(Peter being the rock). So in one breath they say:
"one can not truly understand the scriptures on their own. You must have us interpret it for you".
"Ok, so what gives you sole authority to interpret the scriptures?"
"The scriptures of course".
Its totally circular.
What? The root of the problem is that the scriptures don"t defend things like "sola scritura" (in fact its against it read Acts 8:31-35) or the "priesthood of all belivers" Jesus created one church, and Peter is the rock and has the keys to "turn on or turn off"
On a side note, protestants remove the deuterocanon books off the old testament based on what? The jamnia synod? What authority did the rabbis have over anything christian?
The church's claim for authority is in apostolic succession which is also explained in the scriptures. During ordination every priest passes on the power of the holy spirit that was originally breathed into the apostles when Jesus returned.
@@kinsmarts2217 This doesn't discredit sola scriptura in the least, this verse is explicitly on someone being convinced solely by the scripture and Philip aiding him in figuring out what it means.
Bro that is not their sole claim on authority. History of actual people and events are also our basis for the claim that the Catholic Church is the real church that Christ Founded. Before Protestants there were just Orthodox and Catholics. So now its multiple choice between just those 2. We know from scripture That Jesus said that He created ONE Church and that He wished us to remain as ONE. Now did the Orthodox split from Rome or did Rome splinter off of from the Orthodox. Its a simple historical fact my man. Before 1054 all of Christendom was indeed united and helmed by the Vicar of Christ, the throne of Peter. Their was no debate about this among the early church fathers. No other church can claim or even dares to claim this pedigree. Fact is after 1,991 years we are still here still mater of fact stating the we are the church that Jesus founded the night of the last supper. Who else even claims that? Peter went to Rome. Archeologists discovered his grave in the crypt under St. Peters Basilica in Rome.
Bro that is not their sole claim on authority. History of actual people and events are also our basis for the claim that the Catholic Church is the real church that Christ Founded. Before Protestants there were just Orthodox and Catholics. So now its multiple choice between just those 2. We know from scripture That Jesus said that He created ONE Church and that He wished us to remain as ONE. Now did the Orthodox split from Rome or did Rome splinter off of from the Orthodox. Its a simple historical fact my man. Before 1054 all of Christendom was indeed united and helmed by the Vicar of Christ, the throne of Peter. Their was no debate about this among the early church fathers. No other church can claim or even dares to claim this pedigree. Fact is after 1,991 years we are still here, still mater of fact stating that we are the church that Jesus founded the night of the last supper. Who else even claims that? Jesus put Peter in charge. In Acts, It was Peter, in charge of the congregation, who decided to find a replacement of Judas Iscariot . Peter went to Rome. Archeologists discovered his grave in the crypt under St. Peters Basilica in Rome.
I think you have an inaccurate view of the Augsburg confession. I am a Lutheran and I love your channel.
The Augsburg confession was not simply an anti catholic creed of which to solidify the split. Instead, it was a last ditch effort by the princes and Luther to explain properly to the emperor who was threatening them of their beliefs. All it does is summarize the views of the princes for the emperor and express how they justify these views with scripture.
Again, love your work. God be with you
At 15:32 the only thing I’d quibble with is that’s not exactly the churches teaching. Good works aren’t needed for salvation. But good works are what completes our faith. Here’s an analogy:
In the story of the bleeding woman, she was healed when she touched Jesus’ clothing. Jesus says “your faith has saved you, go in peace.” It was her faith that invited the Holy Spirit in and moved her to touch Jesus’ clothing. But it wasn’t until she touched Jesus’ clothing that she was healed. But ultimately it was her faith that saved and healed her. Had she not had faith, she probably wouldn’t have touched Jesus’ clothing. Even if she did touch Jesus’ clothing, she would not have been healed if she didn’t have faith. So in this story you can see how her faith was completed by her works, and it was the ultimate mover of her works. So it was her faith that caused her to be saved.
The more I find out about Luther, the more he seems like a 16th-Century Joel Osteen.
I was raised Protestant, and know many good and righteous Christians of various Protestant denominations, but I found my way to the Catholic Church when I was 19, and that’s where I’ll stay (even if we are currently seda vacante and run by a godless communist antipope).
Its hilarious how much cognizant dissonance yall have. You will talk about apostolic succession and how it proves catholicism is true, then in the next breath say the pope is a godless communist antipope.
It makes no sense.
"worse than you thought" - americans who don't get taught anything about european history.
Meanwhile most of this get's teached in european schools during history class
And I suppose the catholic and protestant teach the same version
By your own definition, the Pope is guilty of caeserpapism.
“If it was a mass movement, More of Europe would’ve become Protestant” you seem to forget about 50% of the reformation was killed off in France, Germany, and Austria over the next 200 years. Still, fun video!
As a Orthodox Christian, i agree
If reformers like Luther and Calvin subscribed to a "Sola Scriptura" viewpoint, then why would you say each kept making up their own brand of religion? Wouldn't they argue it was simply there in Scripture originally? Whatever arguments they put forth would then be debated on the basis of what Scripture said. It's not the first time that the general religious edifice of the day declared they were the only ones able to understand/interpret/disburse the true religion. Jesus himself encountered it.
In the Byantine Empire, the highest religious autority was the Patraich, not the emperor
There is some misrepresentation here. King Henry VIII wanted an annulment, not a divorce, given that Catherine was his brother’s wife and a man should not have his brother’s and would be childless.
25:50 "civil wars" in the HRE weren't really all that special and protestantism was just one of many reasons for the many wars
Well, all the wars would have been averted if it didn't randomly get a fanatical leader through assassination.
But the world 🌍 does not let us have nice things.
We protestants and our Eastern Orthodox church friends still hold the idea that priests and elders have the right to marry.
The law of celibacy is a discipline, not a doctrine.
@@USDebtCrisis It's a discipline that will get you kicked out of the RCC for questioning?
@@johnathanl8396You do know that Eastern Catholic priests can marry right? Not to mention some Ordinariate priests were allowed to come in despite being married. So yes, it’s a Latin Rite discipline.
@@namae2497 Why only Eastern Catholic? If its not a big deal why not Western?
@@johnathanl8396because it’s simply a practice that the western church made if marry man wanted to become an Eastern priest there isn’t anything forcing him not to
In 1963, I lived in a largely Catholic town on the Mesabi Iron Range. While the Catholic community thought the Lutherans and Jews(oh the irony) were behind the JFK assassination. We were taught in the Lutheran Sunday school, all the atrocities within Catholic church, 500 years ago. There was a great animosity between the children.
At 13:38 this is not a Byzantine emperor. This is Tsar Simeon, ruler of Bulgaria.
Awww the Papist can’t sell indulgences anymore
you´re in a cult.
I'm sorry Pax Tube, so many faults in this video I had to unsub.
From what movie are the scenes in the 8th minute?
13:44 - I'm really thankful for mentioning this, my history teacher will probably ask about it on exam, and you gave me some more knowledge about this
All I know is, you must be born again.
Or born from above with water and the spirit. Not a solution but the first step.
"Like any human institution, the church was flawed" my word, he said it
But...but...the Church is infallible.
Isn't it supposed to be nigh-omnipotent?
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_CyavanaNo.
@@noxvenitLike we believe the Bible was written by humans but teaches infallibly what God wanted us to know, we believe the Holy Spirit ensures the doctrines of the Church are infallible.
However, the Church is run by humans, and as such, issues that God's protection does not extend to are liable to our poor judgement. Like the virtue-or lack thereof-of clerics.
@@dixieslav1274 That's not what it says when hyping itself up 😉.
what painting is at 6:52 ?
Bro showing those American false preachers as protestants in the beginning was doing us dirty. They are not Sola Scriptura. Joel Olsen and that grow hair grow guy are not legit😂
Just got baptized and confirmed today, I love your content and it really helped me when I was first getting into Catholicism 🙏🙏🙏
Welcome Brother
Welcome Home!
I think this was a very good video explaining everything. You may want to do a detailed video on the specifics as related to England. A couple of starting points for reference:
"Faith of Our Fathers: A History of True England" by Joseph Pearce
"Stripping of the Altars" by Eamon Duffy
Once again, very good job on this video.
What movie is used for most of those clips?
As a protestant I enjoyed the video and respect what was mentioned. The events and facts were not incorrect but the explanation had built in ideas used to interpret them. Thanks for the video.