Lauf Seigla "Rigid"- 500 Miles and a Gravel Race Later
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- 500 mile bike review on the lauf seigla rigid.
Had lots of questions about my new gravel bike so after getting a race in and putting the bike through its paces its finally time to give you my thoughts on this gravel bike.
I am no way affiliated, sponsored or paid by lauf, this is my honest opinion on a bike I purchased with my own money.
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Absolutely LOVE my Seigla!
Yesssss … thats the most wild thing everyone you talk to that actually owns one does actually love this bike 🤙
@@wherespinto Not only a great bike but also a great value.
That was an excellent review
Well done 😊
Really appreciate that and watching thank you 🙏
top shelf content, thanks Nick. I was ready to pull the trigger last year on this bike, but the lack of online content (even though Lauf is very communicative), couldn't sell me. I ended up on a Trek Checkpoint SL7 which is stellar. Lauf has nailed exactly what you need in a gravel bike. So much innovation. If this video was out before I bought, then I would be riding a Lauf. One super helpful point about the external cables is I was going to buy the suspension fork model and a ridgid fork. Swapping between them would be a breeze.
Really appreciate the comment.
I know how you felt its a weird thing when you cant find the info, for me after hearing from people who own them and love them and well the 30day return that was worth the gamble for me.
Still got your self a nice ride 🤙
I think the swap fork should be a bigger selling point for them, they seem to be lacking in marketing on that or even offer a double fork package 🤷♂️
Really considering this bike mostly for the tire clearance ! Being able to put mtb tires on a gravel bike is just chefs kiss
That was the selling factor for me and seeing that most bike companies are about 2 years from giving us the tire clearance we want it was a no brainer. It just opens so many doors for a bike when you have such a huge range of tires to choose from 🤙
Fantastic review, thanks very much - this bike is on my short list so the review was most helpful
🙏 appreciate the watch best of luck on the search for the next bike
Really great review and content Nick. Thanks for posting. I'm on a Checkpoint SLR and it has served me well but looking for more tire clearance. I was excited about the launch of the Checkmate which ticks a lot of boxes, but then missed the boat by keeping tire clearance at a 45mm spec. The Seigla looks like the way to go. Throw on some Race Kings and it seems like the perfect bike for Big Sugar.
Thank you 🙏 Apparently you can stuff a 50 in that checkmate but that definitely leaves zero room for the mud or anything else wanting to get stuck. The lauf is seriously ahead of the curve its going to take some time for the others to catch up. Im running the 2.2s race kings now its an absolute weapon in chunky terrain 🤙
Brilliant review and info
Thank you appreciate that 🤙
I was on Sworks pathfinder.(42mm).. I was sliding out in monterey as well.
Good to know I love those tires they worked well here in NV but i was running 47s
My Seigla is on order, green moss and I can't wait to bomb down some of the tougher stuff my all-road struggles with. My buddy has the True Grit and he loves it as both an endurance bike for fondos with slicks and a true gravel that can take the hard stuff with the stock tires. My Seigla already has transmission in back, which will be great for the steeps, but I'm considering upping crankset to 46T aero for a more appropriate range. My mullet all-road does spin out too often on the decent.
Love the green thats an awesome color, definitely 46t or 48t i hear wonderful things about that transmission throw on some 2.1s throw that bike down whatever you can find your going to have an absolute blast congrats 🤙
Team Atreyu! Got the same hat. Amazing shoes. Ordered my Siegla core 4 days ago and can’t wait to get it!
First one to spot the atreyu gear 👏
Congrats on the new bike your going to love it, such an amazing bike be sure to join the FB everyone on there is super nice and helpful 🤙
I was already accepted into the group and have learned a lot just going through the posts. Great review by the way! Subscribed!
Great review! My Seigla Transmission Weekend Warrior is on order, but I went with the suspension fork for more comfort. I do not race, just solo 40/50/60 miles rides to keep my body and legs in shape :) The only thing I will add later on is the dropper post. I am 5.11 / 32 inseam and had a chance to test ride size M it fits perfectly, so went with size M.
Appreciate the watch 🙏
Medium good call if you’re going for the comfort paired with the sus fork. It’s an amazing bike love mine more and more. Enjoy the new bike and all the awesome adventures 🤙
@@wherespinto tnx! I will :)
Great review!...I have the same Seigla with the Rival AXS...As a gravel bike, its way above my skills or ability.....On the road I run Hunt road wheels with a Sram 10-30 cassette with the 40 tooth chainring...but, I live in a flat area with minimal climbing needed. Sram also sells a 12 sp 10-36 cassette if you need a little more for climbing...It does make a great road bike with road wheels and tires ( I use a 34 width tire). Compared to my Scott Addict road bike, the Seigla is not as racy feeling but completely adequate for road riding
🙏 appreciate watching and info. I as well been running on the road like you said not as good as a race bike on road but for endurance absolutely perfect so much so I ride the lauf over my road bike now 🤣 Pretty impressive bike thats for sure, hope your getting some epic rides in 🤙
Love this comprehensive review. Thanks for the plethora of valuable anecdotal insight, exactly what we need to truly make a decision about a bike at a glance.
I'm genuinely interesting in knowing how you feel about ebikes as an excellent cyclist who doesn't need one. Specifically for commuting around or exploring a city & the like. Would one or the other be more fun, more practical, less exhausting, etc?
Appreciate the comment and watch 🙏
If you had asked me a month ago I would have had no good thoughts on ebikes lol However after riding with a friend and his wife whom she was on a ebike id say I get it now. So I think ebikes are great for maybe not so strong cyclists that want to still ride with way better riders and honestly she got a pretty good workout cause she was not wanting to put it on full e mode thus having to work still and ontop of that its great for moto pacing 🤣 really have to work hard to hold a e wheel. I enjoy my bikes for commuting to the gym or quick shop run and dont see any need for an ebike or see how it would be more enjoyable my personal opinion. Hope that helped a bit 🤙
Just huck the tire insert if u have to and pick it up later, or try to carry it on ur torso or bags or jersey if ur racing🤷♂️. Inserts r worth it unless ur pro with free replacmet parts. Im pretty sure mine cushions the ride feel in a air damping kind of way, like a tolken insert in a air shock. Vitorria insert is what i use. And soon to be released there even lighter inser made for even wider 45+mm (probably not as dense tough foam tho, but looks less likely to absorb as much sealant)
This bike (with leaf fork) has made me a much better single track rider up to the point that i might buy a hardtail one day again after 8 ish years of swearing hardtails suck after buying full sus. More challenging and fun underbiking and way less maintenance and cost usually
I have a Lauf Weekend Warrior without a suspension fork. I put a Redshift stem on it, which next to wider tyres, is the best upgrade I have made to the bike.
Thats awesome and good to know totally could have mentioned seat post or stem for more compliance over the fork. So many options now a days to find some more comfort its awesome, appreciate the info 🤙
Much nicer to have the leaf fork. Only ever need suspension stem on rocky single track for hand vibrations.
I like your aggro position, the bike looks fast! I also ride 700X45 on the road group rides, love it too. There's clearance for 700X50, which I will try one day. BUT... I cannot imagine a 1X on those group rides (or in a gravel race for that matter, to each his own), I'd be searching for the right gears far too often.
That said, excellent review!
Funny you say that I was so anti 1x for the longest time even on gravel bikes preferred 2x making the switch I absolutely love the 1x setup now have even contemplated switching the road bike but im with you im real curious about running a big tire ✊
Nice! You're inspiring me to do a bike review of my Sea Otter bike too - Niner MCR RDO 9
But I hate the sound of my voice 😀
🤣 im in the same boat pretty sure i used to whisper to the camera when i first started the channel.
You should do a bike review thats one hell of a rig you have id be curious to know how you liked it at the gravel race 🤙
Curious why you chose the non-suspension fork? I have this bike with the full suspension fork and it’s fantastic
@@mitchlabrador As i mentioned had no interest in suspension theres plenty of other ways to add compliance now a days not to mention the bigger tires alone add an element comfort. Still not sold on needing a suspension fork for my bike and i ride some really hard terrain 🤷♂️
Really great video. Subscribed. Update coming when you swap the handlebars?
@@paul-cp8eg Theres a post season review coming with all the things I’ve changed 🤙 The bars are definitely gone and swapped… thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks for the stellar review! I was so excited to see a follow up on this bike. The white paint job looks amazing too!
Just curious what road bike do you have and what size is that?
I was looking for something a bit more relaxed than my CAAD12 but found it has nearly the same geometry lol
So interested in this Lauf so thanks for putting a review out there!
Appreciate the feedback and giving it a watch, thank you.
I do love the white paint job its always dirty but gives it character lol
My road bikes is a Argon 18 Nitrogen in a size M which is close to a 54. I bought it used and when I was doing comparisons for this gravel bike found out argon suggest I be on a S. Now after spending time on the gravel bike and going back to the road bike i definitely wish my road bike was a Small 🤷♂️
The lauf is such a solid bike I still cant get over the price point for what you get I had to share my thoughts because for the months I was looking I couldn’t find the information I wanted on the bike.
Happy Riding 🤙
The next version will have internal cable routing and a glove box. Facts
@@frienduro24 hard to say if they will or wont but if they want to take the next step that would definitely be the move and at that price point would kill competition 🤙
Thanks for the review! I’m about to pull the trigger on the race transmission model. Spec wise this bike frame has it all other than some downtube storage but that’s not a dealbreaker. Like many others though I’m trying to make up my mind between the S and the M sizes. 5’ 10” 32 inseam just like you. I’ve always ridden 56cm road bikes but between Med and Large mtbs. What size road bike frames do you normally ride ? Liked & subbed btw 👍🏻
Downtube storage would be amazing thats what was disappointing with canyons new grail the cheaper model gets rid of it. But I was in the same boat not a deal breaker but be nice, hopefully they offer that in the future.
Sounds to me youd probably feel more at home on that M. I usually ride a 54 or a little smaller road bike. There was a good comment someone left about sizing on the s vs m, going medium you could get a comfort fit or a comfort/performance fit while s would really only be that comfort/performance fit as the s is definitely a more aero aggressive and the m is more of a upright. Hope that helps a little also that 30 day return is a peace of mind.
Appreciate the view and subscribe 🤙
I'm on a medium and am the exact same size. With the medium and a 32" inseam my saddle to bar height is much closer to even. His saddle is significantly higher in regards to the bars than my medium. I saw guys our size on forums going for the large to get the bars higher yet (more upright). I personally think a large would be too big. I'm very happy with the medium. I will say coming from a medium Slate, the Lauf feels like a bit bigger bike which is good IMO. I think the Slate was a tiny bit small for me. So far I'm loving mine, super comfortable and smooth.
Great review. Very helpful. I'm about to pull the trigger on the Seigla with Grit fork.
Even after you explained (to an extent) your choice of a small, it seems odd that you then put a super long stem on it. The difference in the reach between the small and medium is only 10mm and ETT is 21mm. The stack is just 27mm higher, and you could just slam the stem. Why not a medium and just run the shorter stock stem?
On the toe overlap, do you ever ride it on singletrack with tight switchbacks? That's where its always a problem for me.
Thanks for the watch and comment.
As i mentioned in the video after looking at all the specs the med would have and was longer more stretched out then my old gravel bike that was to big.
So went small because im more comfortable adding length to make a bike fit proper where as a med theres limited options to shorten with an already short stem there wasnt much I could do to make it fit also longer cranks and wider bars i didnt want. Also med and small will ride completely different and have different positions. I personally hate short stems have always rode 100 110 stem length and prefer an aggressive bike.
Lots of single track where i live not a problem with 45s but 2.1s definitely more noticeable but still not a deal breaker im used to toe over lap have had on all my bikes even here theres toe over lap on the med.
Hope that helps best of luck its an amazing bike and with its tire clearance there isn’t a deal that comes close at that price point. 🤙
Great video and super in-depth. I am a big fan of this bike all around except that it doesn't have fender mounts or rack mounts. I found a picture of someone using a Tailfin Areo Rack and bag on it but thought they were a bit too expensive. Does anyone have any recommendations on racks that can be applied to this Lauf bike for a lower price than the Tailfin? I plan on trekking to the grocery store and want to have a rack that is removeable so I can go out on the weekends and hit the roads/gravel without the rack.
Thank you appreciate the watch and comment.
Funny you say that, not having the mounts was a selling point for me as I planned on using the tailfin aero pack.
Expensive set up but it really is one of the best and they last just a solid investment for packs.
Also check the lauf Facebook group lots of great information there and all kinds of setups. Sure you can get some good recommendations there for packs 🤙
Sounds like a great gravel bike but worth buying the top model with sram transmission
All the frames are the same and come with a wireless sram, the top model does come with carbon rims and sram eagle or red. Being i had xplr force and planned on changing the rims to what I wanted later with an eagle there was really no reason to spend the extra 2 to 3k 🤷♂️
if changing to an aero bar, will one be able to hide the wires
No unfortunately not i have an aero bar the cables still run outside, the fork cable is completely external and zip ties to the fork and you would need some sort of special headset / stem to internally route the rear brake cable
@@wherespinto thx for the info
@@axgvr absolutely any time 🤙
How do you get around the toe overlap?
I am coming from a level pedal mountain bike background and my size large frame and my size 13 shoes do not play well together
Lol great question im on the opposite end of the spectrum medium to small bikes with 10.5ft shoes and have toe over lap every bike i been on. I think you learn to deal with it and find the tricks that work like unclipping in sharp corners and that weird toe point to avoid the rub 🤣
@@wherespinto
Thank you so much for your reply. Since we've just gotten these bikes and are trying to learn as much as possible in a short period of time since we have a 100k gravel race this weekend
It will be our first gravel race not on our Trek Marlin mountain bikes
Definitely have to try pointing the toe down on turns, we both knew there would be a learning curve to these new bikes but the toe overlap is the one thing that really caught us off guard
Thanks again for the quick reply and take care, looking forward to more Seigla videos 🍻
Edit* My wife also rides and her toes did the same as mine size 8.5 shoe on a size small 32" inseam
With the 65mm BB drop do you find that the bike cranks or chainring hit rocks or logs? Btw Great videos!
So far no issues with any and ive gone through some rowdy terrain and forest. Also cranks are 170 so fairly short.
Thanks for watching 🤙
For transparency are you paid or get this bike for free or discounted from Lauf?
As I stated in the video i am no way affiliated with lauf and paid for the bike with my own money. Thanks for checking.
I listened and it is at the end. Thank you
Yes apologies should have put it in the beginning wasn’t thinking folks would think Id have an awesome sponsor like that 🤣 hopefully some day
How’s da toe overlap on this? What crank to use with Grx set up since it’s 73mm Shelly?
As I stated toe lap is a thing doesn’t bother me have it on all my bikes most notably switchbacks will be where notice it most.. they only offer sram group sets wouldn’t know what you need for grx 🤙
I was lucky to test ride size M before placing order. There is no toe overlap! This is the first thing on my check list when I am checking new bikes, since I hate it :) My shoe size is 11.
@@vmxdtanks mate you da you da best
@@vmxdyou may get toe overlap with any tire over 45
They should add fork eyelets on the rigid. Would be better for carrying stuff.
Personally im glad they didn’t had a bike with that never used them tailfin has everything you need without needing the attachment points my two cents 🤙
What is you saddle height?
Sitting at just a hair over 29 inches
What saddle bag is that?
I always forget something, thats a almsthre signature saddle bag. Works great actually has a good zipper 🤙
You went on GROUP RIDES with a 1X?!?!?! And you LIKED IT? Sacrilege! /s lol 1X for the win
It took me a while to jump on the 1x train but no going back im sold have ideas for future road builds 🤙
@@wherespinto what are your 1X road ideas? I have a GT Grade that I converted to 1X and do a lot of road riding in addition to gravel. It's pretty flat here (Michigan), so I'm actually running a 46T Force up front w/ 11-28 in the back, which is great for road cadence shifts. Works well for me. What's your take on this bike on pavement? Thinking of getting a rigid Seigla for pave/gravel combo bike.
@@gmiller4987 Me too. Have carbon GT Grade size S 53cm. Looking to get Seigla. Stressing over the size thing. What size Grade do you have?