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  • It's been a dire few months for the cruise industry -- latest victims are Genting Hong Kong’s ship-building units MV Werften and Lloyd-Werft, both of which are insolvent after aid from the German government stalled.
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  • @barryrudge1576
    @barryrudge1576 2 роки тому +276

    Always the hard working man who does the most suffering whenever there is a downturn. I wish those men well

    • @freetrade8830
      @freetrade8830 2 роки тому +12

      Most of the "hard working men" support the authoritarian and unscientific government shutdowns of the economy.

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 2 роки тому +2

      @@freetrade8830 They use Fear and debt to enslave the working man.
      A mortgage, other debts and children keep them silent.

    • @freetrade8830
      @freetrade8830 2 роки тому +2

      @@obelic71 Who is "they" and how do they "enslave" the working man?

    • @SerienchiIIer
      @SerienchiIIer 2 роки тому +1

      Economy goes up - billionaires get richer, working class gets nothing.
      Economy goes down - billionaires still get richer, working class loses their jobs.
      Rinse and repeat.

    • @WinstonSmith1984
      @WinstonSmith1984 2 роки тому

      @@freetrade8830 You wrote who "they" is yourself, and then Richard Smeets wrote the how part. Are you smoking something?

  • @rickbelieves7652
    @rickbelieves7652 2 роки тому +33

    And this is why you can not close down an economy for a virus of this rather small impact.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 2 роки тому +1

      I don't think cruise industry is down just because of governments 'closing down the economy'. What is the chance now that you will spend your week sick going on a cruise ?

    • @TsLeng
      @TsLeng 2 роки тому +3

      Small impact until you know some one who died of covid. Or family.

    • @rickbelieves7652
      @rickbelieves7652 2 роки тому +2

      @@TsLeng tradeoffs and cost / benefit analysis say it is better to keep open. I took 2 shots and had myocard and I am healthy. All decisions involve an opportunity cost.

    • @rickbelieves7652
      @rickbelieves7652 2 роки тому +2

      @@dmitripogosian5084 Put the info from ALL sides out there and let people make choices. Yes, many industries would have been slower, but to just shut them down is tyranny.

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 2 роки тому +4

      @@TsLeng you do understand that after 23 months 97% of the globe never got Covid. ‘Until a member of your family dies’ - you mean like any year of a million different diseases. Have you been prepared to make those same sacrifices for people dying every year (the same affected by Covid in fact) of the flu or pneumonia or is that acceptable for you? In fact do you actually cure a virus by creating poverty and unemployment?

  • @user-bv4sj2gq7g
    @user-bv4sj2gq7g 2 роки тому +420

    After the vultures swoop in and buy up the companies for pennies on the dollar, the cruise industry may magically rebound.

    • @darkhorseman8263
      @darkhorseman8263 2 роки тому +20

      There will be much swooping.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 роки тому +40

      Good, then some people can get their jobs back and that ship won't go to waste.
      This mostly effects the Chinese venture they work for, and frankly these kinds of high profile collapses are frequent over there due to extreme leverage.

    • @uzithedreadpoet6777
      @uzithedreadpoet6777 2 роки тому +23

      As long as it's not Chinese money

    • @syamkumarkaturi9761
      @syamkumarkaturi9761 2 роки тому +2

      FROM TOMORROW SHUT ALL FUNCTIONS AND MAKE SEMI LOCKDOWN IS HELP FULL TO PREVENT INCREASING OF COVID CASES. WHAT IS THE USE OF LOCKDOWN AFTER INCREASING MORE COVID CASES...

    • @GhostOnTheHalfShell
      @GhostOnTheHalfShell 2 роки тому +13

      Of course, especially after trade unions are destroyed. That’s what Thatcher did in Northern UK. It turns working folk in favor of authoritarianism or its darker versions. Next step Gerixt.

  • @4700_Dk
    @4700_Dk 2 роки тому +13

    Europe, especially Germany is export dependent on China. Since the Chinese economy is slowing down don’t expect China to buy any large German ticket items.

    • @mfg8129
      @mfg8129 2 роки тому +3

      Just ask Biden for help. The American are great helper.

    • @sdtsai3744
      @sdtsai3744 2 роки тому

      Let the communist station troops in germany theyll buy them ships

    • @alaindumas1824
      @alaindumas1824 2 роки тому

      What slowdown? BMW had record sales in China in 2021 and expects growth in 2022. Audi, Porsche and Mercedes-Benz have not yet reported on the second semester but saw increased demand and record sales in China during the first half of 2021.

  • @masonhancock5350
    @masonhancock5350 2 роки тому +168

    Sad for the *checks notes* lack of demand for mega yachts.

    • @Ricardo-lb4so
      @Ricardo-lb4so 2 роки тому +28

      Mega billionaires have not been affected by Covid pandemic. Luxury Yatch builders are located in Italy and the US. No problem at that side.

    • @AustinCKinghorn
      @AustinCKinghorn 2 роки тому +7

      Class warfare is so lame, Mason Headdick.

    • @Lbvg
      @Lbvg 2 роки тому +26

      no, it's a sad day for all those people who lose their jobs

    • @masonhancock5350
      @masonhancock5350 2 роки тому +14

      @@AustinCKinghorn I praise our oligarch overlords just as the Chinese praise the CCP. Don't accuse me of not being a patriot! I will happily march to the Mcjob for the wagie pay or fight in the McWar against the enemies of freeeeedumb!

    • @histershellac2842
      @histershellac2842 2 роки тому +2

      Banksy needs to tag one of these "Sani Flush Commode Colossus"

  • @boboo36
    @boboo36 2 роки тому +234

    I do feel bad for the employees, they are left without a job and they have family to support, even if they close down so many workers are left hanging 🥺

    • @69socialmedia97
      @69socialmedia97 2 роки тому +5

      There is Germany.If Theybwanna they can migrate Turkey.Turkey have boom in this industry

    • @gedecandra7722
      @gedecandra7722 2 роки тому +1

      @@69socialmedia97 but the pay is cheap in Turkey.

    • @Robin.Burke-Optical_Collusion
      @Robin.Burke-Optical_Collusion 2 роки тому +7

      & the Turkish Lira has been weakening over recent years let alone almost collapsing in December 2021!

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 2 роки тому +8

      Cruiseships are now more being scraped then build.
      High upkeep and ownership costs of such a ship with no earnings is killing cruiselines and ships.
      Those shipyards specialized themself into these type of ships and sadly draw the short straw now.
      Positive is that practical high skilled labour is in high demand.
      Negative is that that region of Germany has less other metal industry then shipbuilding.
      By moving to other parts of Germany for your job you also have to change your social and family life.
      Moving is not so commen in Europe like in the US due to the strong family bonds.

    • @69socialmedia97
      @69socialmedia97 2 роки тому +2

      @@Robin.Burke-Optical_Collusion That is why Turkish industries growing and German industries lost power.

  • @seawolf7610
    @seawolf7610 2 роки тому +43

    Non European owned companies should receive no aid from the government

    • @arunavaghatak6281
      @arunavaghatak6281 2 роки тому +18

      No company should receive any aid from the government.

    • @nextchapter9883
      @nextchapter9883 2 роки тому +8

      @@arunavaghatak6281 wich ends in many ppl ending up unemployed. Less work on the labourmarket more applicants is not healthy

    • @scottdellrobinson
      @scottdellrobinson 2 роки тому +1

      The West has fallen.

    • @thaitom6410
      @thaitom6410 2 роки тому +11

      Exactly. The true "dark day" had already arrived the moment these two important companies were peddled off to the Chinese -- just like a large proportion of Germany's other heavy industries. On the other hand, any German company investing in China is - by Chinese law! - barred from owning more than 49% of company shares. Can you see the imbalance in China's favor? And it's been like that for decades and decades. Time to finally put a stop to that sell-out to China.

    • @jimmylam9846
      @jimmylam9846 2 роки тому +4

      @@thaitom6410 It wouldn't matter German car manufactures in China are dying slowly because they cannot compete in EV (slow in design and implementation) another 5 years you will see foreign cars slowly disappear in China.

  • @xotoxpv
    @xotoxpv 2 роки тому +137

    Very unfortunate for the workers, nobody needs those ships anymore and hopefully never will. Waste of resources and just a giant polluter.

    • @richardt6980
      @richardt6980 2 роки тому +20

      lol. so is the entire entertainment industry. from sports to television to movies. so i guess get rid of it all.

    • @beeman1246
      @beeman1246 2 роки тому +9

      You're right. The communist gulags never had a vacation and the pinnacle of their dreams was a slice of bread.

    • @rgj5832
      @rgj5832 2 роки тому

      @@beeman1246 nice!!

    • @antpoo
      @antpoo 2 роки тому +7

      Now if we can just get rid of the jets.

    • @petercraven9545
      @petercraven9545 2 роки тому +1

      @@antpoo now youre talking!

  • @Daimo83
    @Daimo83 2 роки тому +43

    The top 10 billionaires had their wealth double in a year while millions of people were sent into poverty.

    • @ralfklonowski3740
      @ralfklonowski3740 2 роки тому +5

      They should at least have the decency to order another megayacht each.

    • @todoldtrafford
      @todoldtrafford 2 роки тому +2

      Well stop printing money

    • @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin
      @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin 2 роки тому +1

      Billionaires buy super-yachts. They also buy tofu, koi and bug repellent. What's your point? That they didn't buy these ships or that the impoverished didn't make a billion each?

    • @ralfklonowski3740
      @ralfklonowski3740 2 роки тому

      @@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin If you are referring to my comment, that was meant as a sarcastic joke. Maybe I should have added a smiley, but then I don't feel like smiling. That part of Germany is struggeling anyway.

  • @jort93z
    @jort93z 2 роки тому +9

    To be fair, it is the 3rd time the Lloyd-Werft has declared bancrupcy, lol.

  • @pxidr
    @pxidr 2 роки тому +3

    Meanwhile, Chantiers de L'Atlantique in St-Nazaire are full of orders.

  • @jimmcintosh9045
    @jimmcintosh9045 2 роки тому +6

    For different reasons the Clyde shipbuilding failed. From building ocean liners,excursion ships and warships the Clyde only has one yard building naval ships and the other failing miserably to build ferries!

  • @jackychick
    @jackychick 2 роки тому +57

    Just went onto that same cruise model in Hong Kong under the same company last month. It wasn't bad but the quarantee in Hong Kong meant the cruise couldn't travel abroad because even Hong Kong citizens returning from other countries would need to get tested 1st before being forced to stay in designated hotels for 21 days!! (or forced to stay in hospitals if you are tested positive)
    The fees for hotels cost more than than the cruise trip, so that s why the cruise set sail to south china sea for a few days before going back to HK. Latest development in HK meant even cruises to nowhere are temporarily banned.
    Got to mention that ventilation is a big problem as the corridors and even the rooms are quite stuffy. The air felt pretty stagnant and covid clusters could be easily formed.

    • @davebauman4991
      @davebauman4991 2 роки тому +1

      How did your post get top to the top of this list while it needs so much effort to read?

    • @WorkWithoutHuman
      @WorkWithoutHuman 2 роки тому +1

      @@davebauman4991 lol

  • @filippxx
    @filippxx 2 роки тому +2

    The cruise ship industry is the pinnacle of human waste of resources. There is plenty of room for shipyard growth but it wil take a few years of suffering for the employees before they turn the ship.

  • @jlousy1901
    @jlousy1901 2 роки тому +57

    Stellar work and beautiful ships these workers made. They should keep their head up high and be proud of the miracles they have produced!

    • @TheSae24
      @TheSae24 2 роки тому +2

      Высоко поднятой головой и гордостью семью не накормить! Нужна работа, нужна кооперация, нужны связи между странами! Этот мир можно изменить только если перестать строить заборы и "дружить впротив кого-то".

    • @fasthracing
      @fasthracing 2 роки тому +1

      Well that should pay the bills hey.

    • @grahamo22
      @grahamo22 2 роки тому +1

      I wonder how much state subsidies it took to keep those shipyards alive because Germany isnt cost effective at such manufacturing. Nor is France.

  • @ChadSimplicio
    @ChadSimplicio 2 роки тому +63

    Sad part is, that recovery may not happen soon enough to save those companies and the jobs that people depend on.

    • @EllieMaes-Grandad
      @EllieMaes-Grandad 2 роки тому +5

      * that recovery may not happen * ever . . . !

    • @alessandroverallo7422
      @alessandroverallo7422 2 роки тому +9

      @@EllieMaes-Grandad oh it will,thing about us humans is that we like to forget. when 9/11 happened my aunt said that she would never take a plane again,6 months later she was on her honeymoon in the seychelles

    • @mylesgray3470
      @mylesgray3470 2 роки тому +4

      There are far more cruse ships than the world requires right now. Decent ships are being scrapped. Recovery will take a number of years.

    • @linguistengineer588
      @linguistengineer588 2 роки тому +3

      2022 may have a lot of news like this... as the extent of globalisation is revealed, and impact of the retreat of it begins to be felt around the world. It's a global debt/liquidity thing.

    • @edwardhochwand9063
      @edwardhochwand9063 2 роки тому

      No recovery is needed.
      There's no obligation of vaccination. More and more people get sick. And many healthy people still think corona is a lie or new variation does no harm. Politician deny to make decision or take the responsibility.
      Whole country is suffering half lockdown since 2020. There is no end.

  • @felixarbable
    @felixarbable 2 роки тому +8

    I feel for the workers but cruise ships are a nightmare and shouldn’t be a thing

  • @weisserth
    @weisserth 2 роки тому +31

    This is a good thing by ANY measure. We don't need big time polluters like cruise ships and private yachts. Less is better.

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 2 роки тому +6

      People will lose their jobs and upon an economic rebound, those ships will get built somewhere else

    • @IDontWantAHandle101
      @IDontWantAHandle101 2 роки тому

      @@WhiteChocolate74 China :(

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 2 роки тому

      @@IDontWantAHandle101 yup 😔

    • @weisserth
      @weisserth 2 роки тому +2

      @@WhiteChocolate74 That argument is silly because if we were to follow that line of argumentation, we should not lock away thieves, drug dealers etc., because someone else will steal, sell drugs etc.

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 2 роки тому +2

      @@weisserth ship building is a legitimate profession that has some negative environmental impact. It's not comparable to crime and other anti-social activities. It's not worth destroying economy over environmental concerns when India and China are the biggest polluters on the planet and show no signs of stopping.

  • @bomba3849
    @bomba3849 2 роки тому +15

    This signals larger problems in economy.

    • @gjerrildkro
      @gjerrildkro 2 роки тому

      Also the U.S. Has been quiet. Almost concealing the present virus situation.

    • @FiFiFilth
      @FiFiFilth 2 роки тому +1

      How so?

  • @Random-rt5ec
    @Random-rt5ec 2 роки тому +2

    8 miles south of Boston - When the shipyard here closed the nearby community suffered for about 12 years.

    • @yellfire
      @yellfire 2 роки тому +1

      Well, 12 yrs ago it was post financial crisis times. In 2022 theres an increasing shortage of qualified workers in Europe, probably in the states too. I dont the think the situation of the workers is that gloomy. The majority will find employement elsewhere.

    • @Random-rt5ec
      @Random-rt5ec 2 роки тому

      @@yellfire Weird = Sudden labor shortage. Where did the labor go?

  • @Nicolas-uu3jr
    @Nicolas-uu3jr 2 роки тому +69

    😔, sad, f pandemic, I hope the workers can find a way to carry on, and, I also feel sad for the companies which are also struggling, it's hard to build something big, and probably harder to close it...😢

    • @Paerigos
      @Paerigos 2 роки тому +1

      quite frankly - Europe is in dire need of having about 20 "supercarriers" for power projection.
      that would be adequate number per populace to match the US.

    • @Nicolas-uu3jr
      @Nicolas-uu3jr 2 роки тому +1

      @@Paerigos I hate guns, money just spent..., but yeah, I guess we need them now...😒, world(europe mainly) still doesn't trust Germany to rearm, and to arm us(EU), but they make the best stuff...

    • @comomeveisosvereis3865
      @comomeveisosvereis3865 2 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 CHINA RIGHT NOW

    • @willyholdsman3956
      @willyholdsman3956 2 роки тому +1

      This year will be a depression year, with lot's of bankrupcies, lot's of poverty, like the 1930's in the EU, and then possible WW III???

    • @Nicolas-uu3jr
      @Nicolas-uu3jr 2 роки тому +1

      @@willyholdsman3956 no

  • @razormaku8045
    @razormaku8045 2 роки тому +2

    Covid19: im not done yet.

  • @chrisk1903
    @chrisk1903 2 роки тому +4

    I work for MV Werften.....i can tell you that the German govt comes across as more interested in wanting to build offshore wind platforms rather than cruise vessels. A strategic attempt to achieve its 100% renewable energy target

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 2 роки тому +1

      Sounds great until in 100 years everyone panics because they will be an environmental effect from wind farms plonked into the seas on the surrounds. 60 towers will have an effect.

    • @bramesque
      @bramesque 2 роки тому

      I am not a fan of these large ships, but i rather see them on the ocean than the windmills.
      There is no renewable future in windmills, those projects are only for short term money generation.
      Those monsters are not renewable themselves, they use rare materials, leak a gas called Sulphur hexafluoride.
      which is causing a major greenhouse effect. the list is so long....

    • @Ryan_Christopher
      @Ryan_Christopher 2 роки тому +1

      @@andyrob3259 Oh sure, cite "environmental effect from wind farms," as if continued burning of fossil fuels for energy has no "environmental effect" itself? Kindly enlighten us why wind farms are worse than coal-fired powerplants over 100 years.

  • @thatguy7085
    @thatguy7085 2 роки тому +2

    What?… no one wants to be trapped on a death trap on the sea… with no way to escape…

  • @cougar1861
    @cougar1861 2 роки тому +22

    If this means no more absurd atrocities like city-sized "cruise ships," then the prognosis for the survival of the species has improved ... however slightly.

  • @SonsofThunder1234
    @SonsofThunder1234 2 роки тому +25

    If this happened in UK it would get blamed on Brexit, as everything does.

    • @seidenstickerj
      @seidenstickerj 2 роки тому +9

      Kinda because Brexit was the shittest political decision a people made in the last decades

    • @SonsofThunder1234
      @SonsofThunder1234 2 роки тому +2

      @@seidenstickerj Yet every country in the whole world is in trouble it seems.

    • @seidenstickerj
      @seidenstickerj 2 роки тому +8

      @@SonsofThunder1234 I guess many are having issues because of COVID, but some problems GB has are pretty specific to their split from the EU (their shortage of specific goods and problems to find workers in some fields).

    • @deivydasbaksa3324
      @deivydasbaksa3324 2 роки тому +1

      @@seidenstickerj “some”

    • @SonsofThunder1234
      @SonsofThunder1234 2 роки тому +3

      @@seidenstickerj I didn't actually vote in the EU referendum. I don't vote full stop as not one politician can be trusted. Nigel Farage dumped the British people in the same week as Brexit happened and Boris Johnson is really a remainer who wants to please the EU before British people. I do however accept the democratic decision of the British people. I wish every success and all the best to the EU. Take care.

  • @mohamedbinrahidkhankhaledb4066
    @mohamedbinrahidkhankhaledb4066 2 роки тому +7

    Germany need tech companies and software company

    • @akteno2796
      @akteno2796 2 роки тому +2

      What we need the most is China being forced out.

    • @mohamedbinrahidkhankhaledb4066
      @mohamedbinrahidkhankhaledb4066 2 роки тому

      @@akteno2796 germany should develop it own tech company like google ,apple, Microsoft etc

    • @akteno2796
      @akteno2796 2 роки тому

      @@mohamedbinrahidkhankhaledb4066 that's not how it works

  • @patrickkelly8095
    @patrickkelly8095 2 роки тому +7

    I feel bad for the employees but why do the governments allow the Chinese to buy out their local companies?

    • @yonosepe7491
      @yonosepe7491 2 роки тому

      ez money

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid 2 роки тому

      Not Chinese. Malaysian, but based in Hong Kong.

  • @alandougan3600
    @alandougan3600 2 роки тому +5

    That's an amazing shed

  • @JohnDoe-gq3tm
    @JohnDoe-gq3tm 2 роки тому +29

    How does a company function with such sloppy finances that they can't even pay their workers their last pay checks?

    • @Deccra
      @Deccra 2 роки тому +14

      I bet the bosses still got thieir Bonus in the milions

    • @Maineriverandtide
      @Maineriverandtide 2 роки тому +2

      shipbuilding require lots of man hours and rework way beyond whats anticipated on the work order... also a union...

    • @garycottrell565
      @garycottrell565 2 роки тому +4

      Becuase the executives made sure they have theirs.

    • @callsigndd9ls897
      @callsigndd9ls897 2 роки тому

      The shipyards are owned by a financial company based in Hong Kong.

    • @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin
      @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin 2 роки тому

      Maybe the executive board met at a tropical retreat to discuss just that. When the retreat was over... all the money was gone. Ooops. Sorry!

  • @miles-thesleeper-monroe8466
    @miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 2 роки тому +12

    Welcome to neoliberalism Germany. You had it good since the rest of us had to export our jobs, and under the EU even you are being disembowelled

  • @Orlov-Lvovskiy
    @Orlov-Lvovskiy Рік тому +3

    Bonjour de Russie. Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo. Mon respect pour mes collegues en Allemand. Bon courage ✊

  • @philipp594
    @philipp594 2 роки тому +3

    Germany should just build some warships, to defend against russia in there.

  • @MrMannyhw
    @MrMannyhw 2 роки тому +1

    Shipyard for cruise ships are no longer needed. Just for leisure.

  • @annoyingbstard9407
    @annoyingbstard9407 2 роки тому +4

    As the world looks ever eastward this is likely to be the story of all European industry. Why the EU is looking for “trade deals” with countries like China is a mystery - the trade is only going to be in one direction.

    • @epigoniisnow787
      @epigoniisnow787 2 роки тому

      i suggest you actually do some research

    • @Hey_you_______x
      @Hey_you_______x 2 роки тому

      @@epigoniisnow787 yes. Research how your comment will be received by complete buffoons.
      Then throw a laugh in at them before they even read it.
      Lol

  • @jackbolder5734
    @jackbolder5734 2 роки тому +2

    1.5 billion euro cruise ship? how much does a ticket cost, minus operating budget?

  • @bjoernaltmann
    @bjoernaltmann 2 роки тому +3

    Wismar! I know that place quite well. A shame about the shipyard, hopefully they recover.

  • @i.k.8868
    @i.k.8868 2 роки тому +1

    They should have switched immediately in February 2020 to building smaller family yachts. Due to the pandemic, those are in high demand. Shipbuilders in the Netherlands can barely keep up with demand.

    • @i.k.8868
      @i.k.8868 2 роки тому

      @David well they aren't going from boats to planes, or from small boats to big boats... Sure it would have hurt, but it would have been possible to switch from large to medium or small yachts...

  • @moabfool
    @moabfool 2 роки тому +7

    Let's be clear, the pandemic didn't cause this. The response to the pandemic caused this. We've always balanced economics and loss of life. The only decision that has ever been made is where to draw the line.

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 2 роки тому +1

      We locked up healthy people never at risk and pushed people into poverty for an mainly elderly virus so a 90 year old can live another year. Meanwhile many of these 40 & 50 year olds will be lucky to find work for the rest of their 30-40 years of life. Weird way to fight a virus.

  • @Suburp212
    @Suburp212 2 роки тому +1

    The other non-building workers along the German rivers will be happy.

  • @drevilatwork
    @drevilatwork 2 роки тому +5

    How about building some military ships there? How is Germany supposed to lead Europe's defense when it refuses to have an army ?

    • @generalharness8266
      @generalharness8266 2 роки тому

      ships are a navy, but Personally I would be very cautious about having a foreign country build my warships.

  • @jonlister1981
    @jonlister1981 2 роки тому +2

    Why should the tax payers pay for failed busines

  • @dennismarfo3536
    @dennismarfo3536 2 роки тому +40

    We can only socialize losses not profits.
    Anyway, first time I have seen DW write "bankrupcy" without a 't'.

    • @kennethadler7380
      @kennethadler7380 2 роки тому

      Actualy they do pay taxes when their profitable but now when they have no income they will declare bankrupcy

    • @benjaminmeusburger4254
      @benjaminmeusburger4254 2 роки тому +3

      socialized profit = corporation tax or income tax
      But nobody forces a company to have a profit, they could just spend any profit before the budgetary year ends ....

    • @TheHonestPeanut
      @TheHonestPeanut 2 роки тому +1

      You mean bankruptcy?

    • @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin
      @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin 2 роки тому +2

      Can no longer afford all the letters. 'T' was let go due to lack of funding for consonants.

  • @Mayangone
    @Mayangone 2 роки тому +1

    Genting Hong Kong is owned by a Malaysian conglomerate. If it was a Chinese company, Indian and Western media would have a field day.

  • @michab3697
    @michab3697 2 роки тому +5

    Maybe the government will finally stop pumping vast amounts of public funds into the likes of TUI

  • @TheHonestPeanut
    @TheHonestPeanut 2 роки тому +1

    Bet the top CEOs aren't worried about their December wages.

  • @djfhsusbruh6698
    @djfhsusbruh6698 2 роки тому +10

    It is because China captured a large chunk of Shipbuilding industry recently.

    • @madselmvig1457
      @madselmvig1457 2 роки тому +2

      Well China and South Korea, but yes you are correct.

    • @nicolass180
      @nicolass180 2 роки тому +2

      Can Merge with Chinese companies

    • @djfhsusbruh6698
      @djfhsusbruh6698 2 роки тому +1

      @@madselmvig1457 South Korea is an industry leader since long time, I think.

    • @Liboch
      @Liboch 2 роки тому +1

      I think a couple of years agp 40% & 20% of the commercial ships by tonnage were built by China & South Korea respectively. Probably more now.

  • @dougdavis8986
    @dougdavis8986 2 роки тому +1

    The world would be a better place if no more of these monstrosities were built.

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 2 роки тому +8

    Don't blame Covid.
    Blame government restrictions worldwide.

    • @gearoiddom
      @gearoiddom 2 роки тому +1

      100% correct John factually, but incorrect politically. They followed up on their panic dumb lockdown move with a double-down, in pretty much every country, solely for political reasons.

  • @kentershackle1329
    @kentershackle1329 2 роки тому +2

    When you produce ONLY 1 type , and you customer is your sister company that operates the Cruise Voyage... its like domino's.. falling.

  • @halphantom2274
    @halphantom2274 2 роки тому +122

    I feel sorry for the workers and the change they face. But it's so good, that this trainwreck of an idiotic industry shrinks. Hope the workers and engineers find jobs, that make sense. Renewable energy sector probably needs a lot of qualified workers soon. Hoperfully.

    • @ricardoxavier827
      @ricardoxavier827 2 роки тому +2

      EU have a lot of shipbuilding industry, including germany. After bankrupcy, the assets including the workforce, will be sell to another companies. Its that in any industry.
      Now the banks will measure what they can sell, to recover as much as they can. complete teams with experience are are good asset to sell to another companies.

    • @rogersmith5167
      @rogersmith5167 2 роки тому +2

      Nobody felt sorry for Ford workers losing their jobs when the EU used the British money paid in then gave Ford Europe, based in Coulogne,a grant to move the van plant to Turkey or the Dutch asset stripping ICI and the list is very long.

    • @smohnjith9226
      @smohnjith9226 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly. Personally, I'd like to see a global ban on all boats of any kind. Followed by planes, cars, trucks, and trains. Better for the planet that way.

    • @Buildbeautiful
      @Buildbeautiful 2 роки тому +1

      @Justin Lukas who wants to work for buttons?

    • @heyho4770
      @heyho4770 2 роки тому +2

      @Justin Lukas Their chance of having to work at McDonald's is significantly lower than someone who's named Justin Lukas. Neither your name nor you mocking 2000 people potentially losing their job make you seem very bright.

  • @farahmo4519
    @farahmo4519 2 роки тому +1

    One company dies and another is born. Nothing to worry about here

  • @shahidmaseed7
    @shahidmaseed7 2 роки тому +8

    While DW was waiting for bankrupting of China but there own country firm got bankrupt 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @cw7886
      @cw7886 2 роки тому

      These are China owned companies which went bankrupt. Re-watch the video.
      Potentially I think there are Italian or French ship builders companies which could buy the shipyards, but there's no point today to keep capacity when there's not enough demand.
      For employees it may be better to move to the Tesla factory, that's what people want now.

    • @subsplease-gk7yo
      @subsplease-gk7yo 2 роки тому

      @@cw7886 lol where did it say they are Chinese owned

    • @cw7886
      @cw7886 2 роки тому

      @@subsplease-gk7yo "Genting Hong Kong's MV Werften shipyard filed for insolvency on Monday". Hong Kong = China now.

    • @subsplease-gk7yo
      @subsplease-gk7yo 2 роки тому

      @@cw7886 I just browsed it and it says it's a Hong Kong German company lol . that doesn't mean it's owned by China

    • @subsplease-gk7yo
      @subsplease-gk7yo 2 роки тому

      @@cw7886 besides if it was am sure DW news would point that out

  • @796andy2
    @796andy2 2 роки тому

    worked in rostock kavrner for a couple months , great guys , excellent work

  • @thepeff
    @thepeff 2 роки тому +8

    Oh no! What will I do without more megayachts?

  • @WezleyB
    @WezleyB 2 роки тому

    The funniest part was the intro... My Wi-Fi glitched when he said shitbuilders.... 🤣

  • @GreenAppelPie
    @GreenAppelPie 2 роки тому +22

    A greener day for the Earth

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 роки тому +2

      You know this won't effect people's vacation habits, right?

    • @seidenstickerj
      @seidenstickerj 2 роки тому

      @Random Gamerbro not Germany's specialty, but capitalism's and consumerism's specialty.

    • @aysinkov
      @aysinkov 2 роки тому +1

      Just cause of this post I am going to be rolling coal all the way home in my 2500 HD DISEL

    • @seidenstickerj
      @seidenstickerj 2 роки тому

      @@aysinkov get well soon

    • @aysinkov
      @aysinkov 2 роки тому +1

      @@seidenstickerj thank you! Let the St Trump blessings be upon you and your family as well🇺🇸

  • @historianadventurerwandere2611
    @historianadventurerwandere2611 2 роки тому +1

    Bankruptcy, ahem. Please correct it.

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 2 роки тому +13

    Couldn't they just build containerships now? As currently everyone is scrabbling for shipping?

    • @walli6388
      @walli6388 2 роки тому

      @@piotrtrebisz6602 Maybe use Hydrogen steel from that new plant they are building

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 роки тому

      Two totally different kinds of boats. And these take years to build and a lot of money committed.

    • @walli6388
      @walli6388 2 роки тому

      @@samsonsoturian6013 That's what the government is for.

    • @Dept246
      @Dept246 2 роки тому

      @sooje nite Nice to see China and South Koreans having partnerships when it comes to hydrogen.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 роки тому +1

      @@walli6388 Germany ain't bailing out a Chinese enterprise

  • @freebee8274
    @freebee8274 2 роки тому

    This is a natural correction resulting from overbuilding.

  • @samuelglover7685
    @samuelglover7685 2 роки тому +42

    It's hard to not be ambivalent about this. One has to sympathize with the workers. On the other hand, it's difficult to see how the world is worse off with fewer cruise ships and luxury yachts. Even before the pandemic cruise ships were floating, traveling virus incubators, crewed by people who were treated like animals.

    • @HadrianTAZ
      @HadrianTAZ 2 роки тому +8

      You can always adresse and solve those issues. Dissapearence of an industry, along with all the other smaller companies that supply and, most importantly, the disappeared know how, is a much worse predicament.

    • @antpoo
      @antpoo 2 роки тому

      Plenty of fruit picking jobs.

    • @MeaHeaR
      @MeaHeaR 2 роки тому

      I dont thinking they wood ever adress issué I think it gett worse lyke masters untt Slavés

    • @jakubgrygiel9795
      @jakubgrygiel9795 2 роки тому +3

      Nobody needs cruise ships. The whole industry needs to be nuked and become a relict of a bygone era

    • @ConstructiveMinds100
      @ConstructiveMinds100 2 роки тому

      Meanwhile in Monaco the creame the la creame doesn't know hiw to burn the cash.
      🤔

  • @bloodyoptimistic9707
    @bloodyoptimistic9707 2 роки тому +1

    That's why Chinese don't make ships so durable

  • @gjerrildkro
    @gjerrildkro 2 роки тому +7

    Evergrande, German style..... Who is next U.S. Airlines ???

    • @Justsaying-cg2nz
      @Justsaying-cg2nz 2 роки тому +2

      The US, the German now see the cunning side of the CCP but at the same time madly in love with China. So how to solve the problem???

  • @JJMHigner
    @JJMHigner 2 роки тому +13

    This figures really. Too much investment in only one kind of product. The world is overloaded with these sorts of ships anyways. I hope people think more locally.

    • @Millsmills586
      @Millsmills586 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking exactly the same. Too many eggs in the same basket.

    • @rcbrascan
      @rcbrascan 2 роки тому

      It is not the product that is important it is the good paying manufacturing jobs that is needed. What are the able-bodied men going do without these types of jobs?
      Also if Germany continues to antagonize China, China could ban the importation of German cars and the whole German auto industry would collapse throwing millions of people out of jobs.

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme 2 роки тому

      @@rcbrascan Germany could respond by banning the import of Chinese plastics. Millions of Chinese would lose their jobs.

  • @manueldavid7369
    @manueldavid7369 2 роки тому +3

    IT WAS horrific for the climate, air and ocean anyways, the heavy diesel propulsion and diesel electric generators for those gigantic ships.

  • @jbuckley2546
    @jbuckley2546 2 роки тому

    The shipbuilding industry went down the toilet many years ago in the UK. Those areas have never really recovered.

  • @ikhsankeruas6228
    @ikhsankeruas6228 2 роки тому +42

    German known for their great engineering with very high quality product. This is very sad

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 2 роки тому +8

      Would it matter if the people working there are all non-germans in a german company in germany?

    • @jameammarijr.2248
      @jameammarijr.2248 2 роки тому +9

      @@phillip76 I heard germans no longer want this type of job. I used to work at a warehouse. over 90% are non-germans

    • @xi.na_
      @xi.na_ 2 роки тому +2

      @@phillip76 it's the German working culture, not the race that matters

    • @strongchallenger2269
      @strongchallenger2269 2 роки тому

      Bs dinosaurs! Refused to innovate using better technology.

    • @lucaszhang2359
      @lucaszhang2359 2 роки тому +2

      China and Korea are taking so much of the market now with much lower labor costs. Germany needs somebody better than the Green to fix realistic problems

  • @fredblair8694
    @fredblair8694 2 роки тому +1

    if the shipbuilding company is Asian owned big deal its not a German company

  • @matifi
    @matifi 2 роки тому +5

    Time to switch and start with spaceships 🤑

  • @jooky87
    @jooky87 2 роки тому +1

    The ship is literally the global dream and it’s on life support

  • @OscarBorrem
    @OscarBorrem 2 роки тому +12

    I feel bad for the employees, but I am glad that cruise-ship tourism has been marginalized, during the pandemic. They invested too many shares in a single market, and rightly so have gotten themselves in a financially unprofitable position. Like Norway, they should've expanded to other sectors of ship construction.

    • @t-doge7653
      @t-doge7653 2 роки тому

      This. I really wish the best for all the people who do hard and good work there but this is one of the best news for the planet.

  • @nicko7841
    @nicko7841 2 роки тому

    Sad they couldn't build more efficient container ships instead

  • @TEAM6USA
    @TEAM6USA 2 роки тому +3

    "The Asian owners"
    I get the lower demand for cruising ships but China is in a difficult financial crisis at this moment and this is one more fact about how bad this is. Started with their Mega-Real Estate companies sending a mega-wave of unpaid debt and lots of lay-offs in the private sector. We don't hear anything because the Chinese Government keeps everything quiet. But this is a good example of what it is happening all over the world with Chinese owned business.

    • @jupanu21
      @jupanu21 2 роки тому

      what does china have to do with it bro? holding company is malay.

    • @johntowers1213
      @johntowers1213 2 роки тому

      @@jupanu21 the holding company is in Malay for Tax purposes bro... The Owners are Chinese Raising capital in China to back the operation which happens to be neck deep in the middle of a massive financial crisis....not sure how you cant join the dots on that one ...bro

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid 2 роки тому

      @@johntowers1213 The company owners are Malaysians.
      Malaysia have Chinese people too.

    • @TEAM6USA
      @TEAM6USA 2 роки тому

      @@johntowers1213 Nice macroeconomics lesson my friend.

  • @BiggieT04
    @BiggieT04 2 роки тому +2

    this is EXCELLENT for the environment, though I do feel bad for the workers it may have left without a job.

  • @henryairconcepts2999
    @henryairconcepts2999 2 роки тому +17

    I feel bad for these laborers but at the same time I'm happy the cruise liners downsize their operations. They contribute hugely to global and maritime polutions

    • @IbangedYaMama
      @IbangedYaMama 2 роки тому +1

      "Hugely"
      "Shipping (1.7%): emissions from the burning of petrol or diesel on boats. This includes both passenger and freight maritime trips."

    • @henryairconcepts2999
      @henryairconcepts2999 2 роки тому

      @@IbangedYaMama not just fuel emissions but they also dump their waste into the water

  • @jvalentine8376
    @jvalentine8376 2 роки тому +1

    Immigrate to Australia there is hundreds of ship building jobs available in South Australia building Naval ships and subs and growing to a possible 3000 jobs .

  • @Cinarli1979
    @Cinarli1979 2 роки тому +12

    DW gives sometimes good news after all!

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 2 роки тому +7

      It would be much better if they would say how EU forced Polish shipyards to give back subsidies from government because EU considered this type of help illegal and in the same time French and German shipyards was geting similar subsidies but France and Germany forced UE to close an eye on that. Polish prime minister did nothing so Polish shipyards ended up bankrupt and he(Donald Tusk) with help of Germany ended up as President of UE...

    • @arturdobrzynski6531
      @arturdobrzynski6531 2 роки тому

      @@Bialy_1 Dzieki za ten komentarz. Sam chcialem dodac podobny komentarz.

  • @EllieMaes-Grandad
    @EllieMaes-Grandad 2 роки тому +2

    That long-forecast crash, economic depression, that never seemed to materialise . . ? . . it's beginning . . .

    • @Vision-vp2fp
      @Vision-vp2fp 2 роки тому +1

      Aaahh..yeahhhh.. Finally.
      They can no longer ignore it now.
      It's no surprise to many, but to those who've ignored it, they're going to have to bite the dust very deeply.

  • @jeffblackwood9837
    @jeffblackwood9837 2 роки тому +12

    I feel sad for the people of Wismar .. I spent quite a bit of time in that shipyard and Wismar back in 2017/18... Not only will it effect the people who worked at the shipyard but it will have knock on effects for the entire town. Sucks

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper 2 роки тому +1

    Had the guys on top been very smart, they would have used empty berths and looked into how they could start churning out containers.
    With the lack of these and being stuck in the US, that is a market that will keep going up...
    The drawback of that though is that they will increase congestion, but should last them until they can tool back to ships again.

  • @Pilotpaulie
    @Pilotpaulie 2 роки тому +8

    Thank the media for making a big deal out of a bad cold.

  • @reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
    @reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 2 роки тому +1

    That's a bummer, especially for workers owed wages, but I have to admit, putting a damper on cruise ship is just plain good.

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 2 роки тому

      Maybe we can do that in couples having children as well - if you’re that worried about the environment. Or is that not ok because it’s a sacrifice you have to make?

  • @dodgeewanker2179
    @dodgeewanker2179 2 роки тому +7

    Build some warships, the German Navy is in bad condition

  • @jabbothyheart
    @jabbothyheart 2 роки тому +1

    The so-called "pandemic" didn't cause this. The ongoing government panic and overreaction to what essentially was a highly survivable virus did cause this.

  • @BlackMamba-lt8oe
    @BlackMamba-lt8oe 2 роки тому +6

    unemployment of the seas 😂😂😂😂

  • @philiphorner31
    @philiphorner31 2 роки тому +1

    Squeezed it like a lonely lemon.

  • @saadabbas8976
    @saadabbas8976 2 роки тому +7

    Looting: TheEconomic Underworld of Bankruptcyfor Profit
    GEORGE A. AKERLOF University of California, Berkeley
    PAUL M. ROMER
    University of California, Berkeley

  • @TheBigjimlizzy
    @TheBigjimlizzy 2 роки тому +2

    I am sure the EU will find money to support Germain workers.

    • @murdoch201
      @murdoch201 2 роки тому

      ... In Germany. The rest of the EU is pretty much bankrupt aswell.

  • @sandybeach3576
    @sandybeach3576 2 роки тому +15

    Use the shipyard to rebuild the Bismark.

    • @gluteusmaximus1657
      @gluteusmaximus1657 2 роки тому +5

      For what purpose?

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 2 роки тому +2

      So they can bankrupt harder? At least building U-boats make some sense.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 роки тому +1

      Battleships are obsolete.

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 2 роки тому +3

      @@piotrtrebisz6602 That's one thing German arms industry is doing surprisingly well in the modern world.

    • @shamanbhattacharyya9285
      @shamanbhattacharyya9285 2 роки тому +1

      @@minhducnguyen9276 yeah. The German navy should revert to the kriegsmarine's style of warfare.

  • @GlidingChiller
    @GlidingChiller 2 роки тому +1

    Shame for the workers but good riddance that cruise ships and mega yacht manufacturers go down. Nobody needs these in the time of the global crisis.

  • @BushCampingTools
    @BushCampingTools 2 роки тому +9

    Surprised no one is blaming the pandemic outright.

    • @vladislavgorshkov737
      @vladislavgorshkov737 2 роки тому +3

      because pandemic is invented to mask world financial problems

    • @marczhu7473
      @marczhu7473 2 роки тому +5

      @@vladislavgorshkov737 nah it's more a scapegoat.

  • @randomguy7175
    @randomguy7175 2 роки тому +1

    Finally DW is not blaming BREXIT.

  • @15seconds3
    @15seconds3 2 роки тому +3

    Instead of blaming the ''pandemic'' for these shipbuilder's bankruptcies, you could have reported on what lead to such bankruptcies.
    What the ''pandemic'' did was exaserbate the failure of leadership that would have happened anyway.

    • @15seconds3
      @15seconds3 2 роки тому

      @Macavity You plan by having reserves in company coffers to survive a rainy day and business connections with banks and associate partners. I didn't realize that was such a difficult concept to understand.

    • @15seconds3
      @15seconds3 2 роки тому

      @@kawasakizrx1164 The first question I would ask is why is it 1.5BEU? That doesn't smack of corruption at every level.

    • @15seconds3
      @15seconds3 2 роки тому

      @@kawasakizrx1164 More hiding of assets and collusion from tax laws. How long was that supposed to last..

    • @15seconds3
      @15seconds3 2 роки тому

      @@hc3657 What are your qualifications to criticize my viewpoint? Let's hear it big boy.

  • @shoulders-of-giants
    @shoulders-of-giants 2 роки тому +2

    So cruise ships are a good thing, right?

  • @windsong3wong828
    @windsong3wong828 2 роки тому +4

    I am a Malaysian Chinese and Genting is a Malaysian company.
    The long term story is intact…..build ships in Germany and use it for the Chinese market.
    Billions of Chinese would love to cruise and gamble.
    Unfortunately, Covid had killed the shipbuilder.
    Not to worry…..once Covid wanes…..both the government and another company ( maybe NOT Genting ) will sort out the details and continue the business.
    It is a classic win win if business continues.

  • @jonesy66691
    @jonesy66691 2 роки тому +1

    RIP Bismarck 2.0

  • @Chasing-Red
    @Chasing-Red 2 роки тому +4

    Continue the covid restrictions and watch how many other companies go under….these big companies could get assistance from the Government, but what about all of the restaurants?

    • @Chasing-Red
      @Chasing-Red 2 роки тому

      @N Fels i am not from Europe, but i am super glad to hear that these smaller restaurants are taken care of, if they are in fact taken care of. No restrictions and no mandates will stop this virus. We just need to wait for more studies to come out, but like the Flu, nothing can stop an invisible virus that mutates.

  • @frankblangeard8865
    @frankblangeard8865 2 роки тому

    How will the world cope with fewer cruise ships and mega yachts? This is a crisis !

  • @neoflying
    @neoflying 2 роки тому +5

    Being a employee can understand pain of Employees working in this shipyard company .... Hopefully COVID-19🦠😷 will end soon... Hotel and tourism sector will thrive again.. Until then Gov should take care of them..

    • @zoomzoom3950
      @zoomzoom3950 2 роки тому +2

      Hope isn't a viable economic strategy. Governments the world over destroyed their businesses and their part of the global supply chain. This is only the beginning of the results of the corruption, malfeasance, ineptitude and incompetence of ruling elites around the world.
      It's going to get much worse, and it could last decades.
      In the end, China will emerge as the global economic hegemon, enabling it to be come the sole remaining superpower. Learn Mandarin it's going to be necessary skill for those who remain in the aftermath of the coming economic collapse.

    • @neoflying
      @neoflying 2 роки тому

      @@zoomzoom3950 🤣🤣congratulations Your social credit point has credited with 2 points ..back in China.

    • @zoomzoom3950
      @zoomzoom3950 2 роки тому

      @@neoflying Just wait, reality has a few surprises for you. Enjoy your future.
      If you're in Germany, Mecca is that way ↘ dhimmi.

    • @neoflying
      @neoflying 2 роки тому

      @@zoomzoom3950 I am in your neighborhood.

    • @zoomzoom3950
      @zoomzoom3950 2 роки тому

      @@neoflying in your dreams, dhimmi

  • @Then.72
    @Then.72 2 роки тому +1

    Sturgeon wants to leave the UK ???? Scotland’s shipyards won’t get same amount of contracts from the EU as they do from the UK and this will be devastating for their skilled workers