Tab S10 Ultra vs Tab S9 Ultra - MediaTek vs Snapdragon!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The Tab S10 Ultra is out and it's caused a stir. Largely in part due to Samsungs decision to use the MediaTek Dimensity 9300+, instead of the Snapdragon 8 Gen3 for Galaxy.
But is it really as bad as what people are saying? In this video, we compare the performance of MediaTek vs Qualcomm.
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This S10 series is just a waste of time, Samsung should have just waited, like they did before. 18 months is great, should've been even 24 months-cycle.
Fully agree. Embarrassing upgrade
It's a waste of your time, not everyone else's.
@CAIORAZ
I meant a waste of time for Samsung and its partners. Who am I...
If they had money problems, they should've skip the galaxy tab s10 models this year and work on the galaxy tab s11 models for next year with snapdragon X Elite or snapdragon 8 gen 5.
Next gen will have 8 Gen 4 or Dimensity 9400 / 9400+.
When the next gen of tablets comes out next year. The gen 4 or 9400 will be a year old. The next gen of chipsets will be available. I wished Samsung would have waited 2-3 months and release the tab s10 series with the Dimensity 9400.
@@Tkz9000 Thats what i'm saying, they will get 8 Elite / Gen 4 or 9400/9400+ like this year, cpu's already proved at the top but almost at the end of the cycle.
They could not have waited more and released with new Cpu's just the price would be a problem for everyone
@@Joaaaaaaaaaaa No,what your saying is next years tablet will have the gen4 or 9400. It will be the same issue again. What I am saying is Samsung should use the latest chipsets on their tablets even if they have to delay the release.
You have oneplus with their latest tablet using the snapdragon gen 3 chipset for 450-600 dollars. Even though they are using an older chipset, the price can't be beat for what oneplus is offering.
The pricing isn't much of an issue IMO. Releasing a new tablet with an old chipset is a mistake by Samsung. There are people who are turned off at this tablet because Samsung went with mediatek. I personally see nothing wrong as the dimensity has proven to compete with apples bionic and snapdragon. If Samsung used the 9400 it would be a more convincing to the critics into upgrading. Theres also the ipads with their m series chips which spanks the 9300+ and gen 3 in overall performance costing nearly the same as Samsung. Dimensity 9400 would compete with the m series by apple. I see no point in upgrading to the tab s10 and I'll keep what I got. I wouldn't be surprised if sales were as bad as the fold 6.
@@Tkz9000 I see what you mean but its not possible unless yeah they wait more which is not possible, they have to release the products at a precise schedule.
The 8 Gen 3 and 9300+ gpu wise can compete with Apple M2, but games on Android are so poorly optimised they often run way lower res than on even old iphones with A13/A14 chips.
My brother actualy bought an One plus pad 2 and its amazing ! I myself am looking to buy the Honor with 8s Gen 3 and that amazing Oled screen + 8 speakers combo for less than half of just the S10+ not even ultra.
Samsung is and was always overpriced on the tab market, back then there wasnt such competition though it was "Normal" for Apple and Samsung to put insane prices
The jump from S8 to S9 was fantastic, almost as though Snap is just superior in every single way.
I dont understand how you can support a really pathetic jump in strength? Do you not want to be genuine with fans over being a sponsor for Samsung?
The trash that is AI, especially in tech that is running an application AI, is not a reason to by the S10.
Being 1% quicker does not excuse the price.
MediaTek will throttle. It wont last. It's cheaper. It isnt anywhere near as efficient. Nobody likes this move by Samsung, not at all.
Wow mediatek can now match the benchmark of the previous generation chip
Didn't he say "huge improvement" when reviewing the benchmark ??? "Hands down better scores"
slow clap for mediatek. they can now match last years chips 😂
Three MediaTek 9300+ and Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 LV score about the same in benchmarks
Wait for 9400+, it's gonna blow your Qualcomm A18 Pro Snapdragon elite a$$
Destroyed it 😭😭
You're missing the point. Nobody cares if Mediatec is a little faster. Tab S devices used to have 18 month generation cycle, so Tab S10 was expected in 2/2025 and for sure with the next generation SoC. SD 8 Gen 4 will launch in a few days!! The decision of Samsung to bring Tab S10 now is the most idiotic decision in a long run of idiotic decisions about SoCs.
I really hope TabS10 series will be a big fail so that Samsung will learn. High end price for last year generation SoC shouldn't work.
The average person won't care or notice. I'm not the average person and I still don't care and wouldn't notice.
Don't cry! Girl!
The small gain on speed is no reason for me to upgrade from the S9+ to the S10+
I heard whole samsung team is working on a new big project that's why they are not putting any new things in other launches. They are going to launch a rollable phone in 2025 as per insiders leaks
Samsung could’ve waited 2-3 months to release tab s10 series using the dimensity 9400. It would have been a new tablet using the latest chipsets that would at least compete with the iPads using the m series chips. Instead they rushed this thing out.
Snapdragon chips are very expensive, that's the reason Samsung didn't use it
OnePlus release the tablet this year with the Snapdragon 8 gen 3 and it's about $500
So not using snapdragon chips, s10 ultra should be significantly cheaper.. 🤣
@@MrPoliarinis They're literally the same price comparing last year S9 series price 😂
Yo, that's a total fail. They've been using the same design for three generations now, which means they're saving on production costs and using the same old camera components. And now they've messed up the chip, which was the only thing that made Samsung tablets worth buying. They did the same thing with the Fold 6, and surprise, surprise, sales are already in the toilet. Maybe they'll learn something from this.
@@Dumauch yeah but they cheaped out on the LCD-Panel, its not a great one, at least contrast wise. I have the OnePlus Pad and the Pad 2, original Pad is much more colorful, and... doesnt heat up at the LCD connector.
Bringing out the Tab S10 decreased the price of tab S9 on other platforms, and then ended up making the tab S9 look like the battery buy...
Even on their official apps as well
I dunno, it's one thing that it's better than 8 Gen 3 but we need to see 8 Gen 4 which I'm sure is where most of our disappointment comes. Emulation especially is a concern since Snapdragon has favour there. I'll stick to my S8+ for awhile longer. Hopefully next year we're back on Snapdragon with some extra goodies but I can hopefully last until S12.
The only excuse to use MTK for Tab S10Ultra would be to use latest 9400. Another cost saving and missed opportunity...
Ok back off jerk
Exactly!!! The 9400 would at least convince even the critics to buy, upgrade to the tab s10. Another mistake is Samsung getting rid of the smaller base model, IMO.
They can't do the required testing and refining with MTK 9400.. unless they postponed release. Which they could've honestly.. like just drop them with S25
What sucks is that the snapdragon 8 gen 4 "made for samsung " is just like 3 months out. Samsung SHOULD HAVE WAITED FOR THAT. And ya know what? There are even leaks of the mediatek dimensity 9400.... And it destroys this 9300+ chip......
ikr! this tech reviewer is probably paid by samsung xD
As a Samsung fanboy.....I am dissapointed in Samsung. WTF are they doing these days? Their tech product line up is shit.
Unfortunately they look up to the trillion $$$ company with literally everything 🤷🏻♂️ even the shitty lineup reflects what Apple does these days
I think the Dimensity 9300+ is a fantastic chip. My only problem with the choice is that the 9400 and Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 or 8 Elite, whatever it'll be called, are about to be unveiled, and Samsung is charging full flagship pricing as if the chip is new.
I'm not sure how true this is but i remember reading somewhere that Samsung saved 30% building the S10 series compared to the S9 series, yet isn't passing on the savings.
Samsung also saves money from a licensing standpoint (while maintaining higher profit margins) by going with a MediaTek vs. a Qualcomm chip (which I am sure was a HUGE factor in their decision)
I would like the comparison of display quality , video playing especially Thanks❤The 9300 the faster onefor sure.
This is all well and good, but those of us who want an 11 inch version are S.O.L. I refuse to be forced into buying a whole different less portable size just because Samsung is too lazy to continue its full range. Samsung has shown contempt for their customers. The s10 is utterly bland and mediocre as an upgrade (just a matte screen and a bunch of AI crap).
The dimensity cpu should be compared to *current* ones such as the 8 gen 4 (which is available in phones this month) not a year old cpu. It's no wonder people are wary after the Exynos stunt that Samsung pulled in their phones. They foisted crappy Exynos on Europe claiming it's just as good, but then they used Snapdragon in their flagship phone. They must think we are idiots. That's why people are suspicious about non Snapdragon cpus. Samsung brought this upon themselves. I hope the s10 range fails dismally..Samsung needs to be taught a lesson.
I love your comment. The problem is you want to compare the new chip that hasn’t been released to the chip. That’s already in the S-10 snap dragging elite compared itself to apples, older chip if you’re gonna play fair play fair. It can’t be one way for one chip at a different way for another chip that you gotta take into a kennel. Apple didn’t just get a great chip set right off the bat it was it iterated over time. There’s a lot of misspells and grandma Eris, but let’s blame that on the Apple iPad. I’m using talk to text still can’t get it right Brand new chipset same old trash. I left the errors to prove my stand point.
Just buy the S9 Ultra with a matte screen protector 😮
So many S9 owners crying and spouting nonsense. Yes it wouldn't be worth upgrading between the two. But it's clearly a big improvement.
im just going to get the S9 on sale
Smart decision
Same😢here
the only difference between them is the processor
and the anti reflective display, but i personally always use a screen protector so yeah
this is devastating news given that early benchmarks of the next Snapdragon chip show that the gap in performance between it and Apple is entirely closed for the first time in decades. So it's now possible to have an android tablet more powerful than the best ipad pro, but not if Samsung cheaps out on the chip.
I just wish small tabs came back. Like a 7 or 8 inch, but with just as powerful specs
Samsung made a stupid reckless decision here if they launched the Tab S10 line-up alongside the S25 series, it wouldve been a total sucess as long as theyre powered by the new Snapdragon chip or at least having the 8 gen 4 for the 11 inch model and then the Sd X Pro and X Elite for the Plus and Ultra variants. That would've crushed Apple so badly, but they screwed it up again...
This is the straw man defense as the problem with MediaTek versus Snapdragon isn’t lower benchmarks. The issues are lower power efficiency, overheating, throttling, app optimziation, and battery life. Your carefully crafted 45 minute test isn’t valid for those mid and long-term concerns. That said, I don't have a problem with Samsung using MediaTek anymore than I have problem with Google using Tensor (a Samsung Exynos mod) but Samsung is clearly using the less expensive chipset to maximize profit while still charging top dollar. I'm still very happy with my Tab S8 Ultra.
Samsung are getting greedier than Apple. At leas with Apple though, you pay flagship prices you get flagship specs.
Also the ISP, NPU, modem, wireless modem, etc
No man Nowdays mediatek is more effecient. The main problem with Exynos and mediatek is the modem. The 5g modem is unparalleled in efficiency and thermals. But in the form factor of a tablet mediatek has almost no drawbacks ad there is no modem here. Its just wifi chips which again i presume would work better on snapdragon
@StoicPhilosophyyyy they make cellular versions of the s10 plus not sure about the ultra which is pretty lame.
Sounds like you still stuck in 2000s if yourself think Mediatek is still a microwave machine.
For your information, Mediatek already bypass Snapdragon in efficiency and performance with their 9xxx series.
Funny when samsung should consider bump up to x elite level of chipsets, they decided to give up ( like on all products this year, fold6, buds pro, watches etcm.. they just dont give a shit anymore )
There are no major upgrades at all I'd still buy S9 Ultra
You know what I had to go back and look at these two chips that snapdragon chip is built on a 3 nm process while the mediatek is built on a 4 nm process. Yet the mediatek drills, the snapdragon why is this even a conversation? For those of you who don’t know the 3 nm has more transistors and should be more efficient than a 4 nm. It’s like saying pci4 for versus pci5 ssd.
For the majority of people, the mediatek is alright. But for power users and people experimenting emulation this has been a HUGE let down as snapdragon processors have custome gou drivers for their SOCs. I bought honor's Magicpad 2 instead. No regrets 👍
I have the S9 Ultra and my wife has a S7+.
Both are amazing and smooth. We may be swapping out my wife S7+ soon. But the S9 Ultra is so amazing, I don't think I me an upgrade yet.
Test emulation between the two. Emulation is what most are worried about.
While I think this Mediatek chip is good, I still think they should have waited until early next year and use the next gen Mediatek, which already has some impressive leaked benchmark. That newer chip would have made the tablets a lot more future proof.
excellent pedagogy thanks. , Relevant choices of tests intelligent analysis 👌 very fair obviously.
All negative comments on here after a positive review. I've got an S10+ as my S7 was battered and I needed a new one. It's fantastic, no complaints. Also regarding the price, Samsung always do very good incentives at launch. I got £200 off plus a free keyboard book cover, so it was a very good deal. Why all the negativity? I wouldn't upgrade if I had a healthy S8 or S9, but otherwise it's well worth it. I doubt many people would upgrade a tablet every year or 2.
i am very curious as an iPad user, how many Samsung Galaxy Tab S Ultra users use their tablet the way you do. you do photo/video editing, and it seems like you maximize what it can be used for. i am not sure the common Samsung users use it for naything other than watching youtube and playing games.
@Jimmyfly215 Well, I work on webcomics and comics in general basically the tablet for me is a second workstation where I work on comics, scripts, promotional artwork, and other stuff like that. It's pretty effective as a second laptop or PC on the go if that makes sense
I originally had an iPad but I couldn't get used to the apple pencil because it didn't have that hovering cursor on top of the fact I had to charge it. I also like that the galaxy has a larger screen which gives me greater surface area to draw on
Also due to the fact the Android market has Freer infrastructure a lot of people also uses it to play emulated Video games And mobile games in general that just aren't available on Apple devices because the developers don't meet the requirements to put them on the Apple Store yet Such as stick War 3.
Those two reasons are one of the biggest reasons I don't really miss going back to Apple products
I am planning to buy my first tablet, I will be using it mostly for photo editing and video editing. I'm still deciding which tablet is best. Should I go s10 ultra or s9 ultra. Ipad is out of the option for me as I'd like the samsung ecosystem.
@@Toto-bi5fc, a tablet is not made for video nor foto editing. OK if you only use it from time to time, but not if you use it as your main video editor.
How in the world are you even qualified to make that statement random iPad dude. Now if you actually know many people with a high end Samsung tablet then yeah, anecdotally you can say that. And just so you know preferenceing your comment with the fact that you are an iPad user doesn't hit the way you think.
@@Docfly62 lol offended much? I own a S9 ultra. I also own a M4 iPad Pro. Why did you wake up so angry today?
My main issue is that 9300+ isnt a bad chip it appears to achieve nice gains. The issue is why not wait a few months and give us the newest chip available with new tangible improvements. It feels like s tablets r always on the last leg. Why would i want to spend apple pro prices for something that feels more like a tab s9.5 and not a true tab s10. Look at ipad pro it has the latest and great chip available the m4 chip
But the thing is i don't think apps or games will be as optimized for a mediatek processor as they will be for a snapdragon chip, I could be wrong though
Tab S10 Ultra should have snapdragon X elite
that would be a dream come true
I smell a sponsored review 😂. Bro, you can spin it in anyway possible. Of course it should be a little faster it's new tech. The thing is this is trash for an upgrade. You should be calling them out but we know you got a free tablet a month ago.
The owners of s8 and s9 tablets needn't go for tab s10 series. These are already excellent tablets from every angle. We should wait for tab s11 series with either mediatek 9400 (benchmark value may cross 3 million) or snapdragon 8 gen4. I am definitely going for tab s11 ultra next year😁
it's the best galaxy tab to date for sure, but not a reason to upgrade coming from maybe an S7 series, for me the best upgrade is the antireflective screen. I hope samsung finally push to compete with the iPad with an X elite chip and a more desktop experience, the s10 series feels more like a experiment with a new SOC which is fine, not a disaster but yeah....
Just bought the s9 plus as my first tablet. No reason to spend more for the s10+
Samsung should have launched the S10 series with the S25 series in January or February with 8 Gen 4
People need to stop underestimating MediaTek.
i kept pushing back buying a tab s9 ultra because i wanted an s10 ultra with Snapdragon gen3/4. this after exynos in EU market is the last straw. i'm switching to ipad pro m4, at least for tablets. might keep my S24 ultra phone quite a lomg time, but fed up with Samsung cutting corner when it comes to flagship devices
Battery drain test on tabs ❤
This is a great tablet if you're coming from the Tab S7, S6, or FE models.
You've just proved the s9 ultra is the better tablet once you factor in the price difference its a no brainer
Which color do you guys think its nicer: Grey or Silver… I truly cannot make up my mind:)
Such a waste, give that a gen 4 snapdragon, cut cost on that ultrawide anyone uses and make the experience with the keyboard better just like huawei did and bam
It would be a really good product
We were still expecting fhe diminsity 9400 😢
I just want Samsung to put decent screens in their tablets. The 11" iPad pro tandem OLED is mostly developed by Samsung.
But yet... The 1000$ tab S10 still has the same dim 400nit 100% sustained sdr display. But market the 1% HDR highlights if you're outside 900nits as the brightness, which just isn't the real world truth
Need to test it whit the newer snapdragon chip it live it in the dust
Esperaba mas de samsung, solo un cambio de procesador y una pantalla sin reflejoss? Es enserio?, pense que nos asombraria con un snapdragon elite y windows y sus nuevas tablets
did you really made a chip comparison without testing it with heavy games and heat? galaxy AI ? who the heck even care about this ?
name of video editing app ?
You are supposed to compare it with the galaxy s24 Ultra. We were expecting the snapdragon gen 3. Even before watching the video it's obvious who is the winner
Did you see the part where I did compare it to the S24 Ultra?
Thank you for this video!
I think i would skip as only slight improvement
Looking for a new tablet, currently have a 1st gen ipad pro from 2016. So, I am wondering should I go for a Tab s8 Ultra, S9 plus or pay the premium and get the Tab S10+. Though I don't see the reason to get the tab s10 besides longer support?
Bingo get the s8 ultra
Get the s8 or s9 second hand or on discount
Wait few months when sale start may you can get it for 600$. Or 300-350$ on tab s9 or +
I'd skip Samsung and purchase a 6th gen iPad Pro.
Samsung tablets are kind of slow.
I tried gaming (Call Of Duty Mobile) on the Tab S9 Ultra and it lagged for a sec.
The iPad is smoother for sure 3+ hours of gaming.
@@jg5499 it has m1 bro why it will lag
S10 + TAB scores for me 6996 multi core and 2092 Single core. Vulkan GPU 14 179, OpenCL 12 295. I wonder why on the plus model I could not reach the same score as you. Chip is the same heat disapation I assume is not the reason. tablet runs cold in heavy load RAM is 12GB and ROM 512GB. What can be improved to get better test score?
different software (system) versions! does the s10 plus have the same clock frequency for the cpu/gpu?
@@Dirk2006Neu I will check that one but is only few days after release so I doubt it will be a different System SW release. OUI 6.1.1
At the end of the day, the end user won't give 3 flying fųcks about 1800 points more on multi-core in geekbench or about the 3k and 5k points increase in OpenCL and Vulkan APIs score, I edit video on LumaFusion on the Tab S9+ (not the ultra) and its wven better than in my laptop, which will die in less than 2 hours when its not plugged to the power. The Tab S10 lineup is a must skip. If it was for the AI, the Tab S9 series they all got the OneUI 6.1.1 update. Ita not necessary to upgrade. Better wait for the next Tab S11 or S12. Maybe it will be Tab S20, the same as they did with the phones? Who knows, but for many reasons, Snapdragon is still the king, raw performance is meaningless these days, if you dont have optimized software for it!
I modded my S10 ultra by micro soldering an 8 gen 3
Should i upgrade from my 5 year old tab s6 to the tab s10 ultra??
You will definite feel an upgrade if your willing to spend the money. You won't get a better trade in value for an S6 other than Samsungs. I came from an S8 plus, and I love the size and screen technology. In performance, it's definitely smooth, but really anything you'll throw at this thing won't make it sweat for years 😂
Good, I'm not one for upgrading all the time, and since I've had my tab s6 for 5 years now I think it's due and upgrade 😂 maybe in the black Friday sales next month i can get it cheaper
Performance is a very subjective term and one thing that people are ignoring with this whole situation it's not just about performance in terms of raw capabilities it's also about compatibility.
What do you mean with compatibility here exactly? What is it that the snapdragon would run/be compatible with that the mediatek won't?
@@idearikas I mean that there are specific apps that are more tailored to fit Snapdragon chips
@@Dumauch Alright thanks!
It's not just about the technical stuff, it's about showing Qualcomm that competition exists, that they can happily switch companies if they keep pricing their chips high.
@@robgrenzeback3425 they could have made a better point if they had cut the price but Samsung is charging the same price meanwhile OnePlus has a tablet at half price with a Snapdragon 8 gen 3
nah the real comparison should be against M4
ok but ufs 4.0 vs 3.1 (tab s9)
compare to ipad pro m4 please in terms of performance
Is MediaTeck good?
no
@@Renderlesscharacter2454Sounds like you arw an old school person who doesn't get updated with latest information.
Mediatek mis range and flagship already bypass Snapdragon in terms of efficiency and performance already.
Is Samsung a North Korean or Indian company? 🤔
This is more like Tab S9a Ultra..
End of Samsung
Peopleshpuld stop yapping about the latest Media teck chips as they are just better than snapdragon. Ffs stop the moaning people
Wow MediaTek at this price point? No thanks... like, ever. I don't even trust benchmarks! Who knows what short burst trickery Samsung might be pulling based on past history to smooth the numbers?
This is not a slam against you. I appreciate your efforts to do some kind of comparison between previous gen and this new model.
This so-called "Ultra" tablet will end up being given away with next year's Galaxy Ultra phones just to clear out inventory,. 😆
This is also not a slam dam to your bit please wake up and do your research more.
Mediatek Dimensity has been bypassing Snapdragon efficiency and performance in recent days.