The Rise and Fall of Doctor Starline | IDW Sonic History

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  • @agentomecha634
    @agentomecha634 24 дні тому +94

    Dr. Starline was honestly a really interesting character. Someone who thought he had Dr. Eggman figured out, only to realize that he knew very little about the doctor. And his own hubris would lead to his very downfall in the end at the hands of Dr. Eggman.

  • @Ollie.H-23
    @Ollie.H-23 24 дні тому +47

    Starline's logo is a star line in front of his most defining feature, his hair. And having there be 5 stars makes it seem like a rating. It shows that he believes he is the best being a 5 out of 5 stars

  • @sophiaho2341
    @sophiaho2341 24 дні тому +47

    and now there is another character that has some similarities and mindset to Starline that being Lanolin, they both were inspired by the two respective people they look up to that being Eggman and Sonic but when they find out how they truly operates they both grew disappointed and frustrated at their methods that they tried to "fix" how it should be done but ends up failing into the same cycle as them and Starline serves as a cautionary tale to Lanolin

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  24 дні тому +12

      I'm very curious to see where things go with Lanolin. I'd like to do a video on her once more time has passed

    • @kingcamelot1395
      @kingcamelot1395 22 дні тому +10

      ​@FantasticSamtastic If the latest issue is anything to go by, Lanolin's actions are on the cusp of finally catching up with her. A perfect opportunity for the sheep woman to learn to humble herself and put more trust in her allies then just the system.

    • @Turai12
      @Turai12 21 день тому +6

      @@kingcamelot1395tbh I love Lanolin. She's a great foil to Whisper and Tangle, especially the latter who needs someone to keep her in check.

  • @fluffkit235
    @fluffkit235 24 дні тому +60

    Dr star lines logo is probably based on the fact HE is based on the Star line glitch in sonic and knuckles where a glitch out knuckle would appear white and have his name changed to a line of *****.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  24 дні тому +11

      Thanks for sharing, I had no idea!

    • @Quickstein
      @Quickstein 23 дні тому +6

      Little correction, the Star Line glitch (or Wechnia glitch, if you're so inclined), is from Knuckles' Chaotix, not Sonic & Knuckles.

    • @solsticeofsins6039
      @solsticeofsins6039 20 днів тому +1

      Pretty sure Starline’s logo is just his hair.

  • @Steengames12
    @Steengames12 23 дні тому +32

    Mimic wanted himself deleted from the eggman database because eggman was after him. And that data will always remind him.
    Without it, eggman would forget about mimic. Just like he mostly forgot about starline. I am 99% sure that eggman had data of starline in the eggman database. Wich is why he knew everything about starline again during the fight.
    I also would love a video about mimic. He is a very intresting character

  • @SoranotRoxas
    @SoranotRoxas 24 дні тому +22

    *Dr. Starline got a little too big for his britches* 😂. Although he was kinda right about Eggman, his own EGO was his downfall

  • @Ty55_
    @Ty55_ 24 дні тому +19

    If my info is correct, when choosing a core for mimic they struggled until i believe sega actually suggested the fly core but mimic would fly like if he was swimming in the air. (So short mimic flight is like an octpi swimming)

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  24 дні тому +5

      I like the idea of him "swimming" like an octopus

    • @Cookiecrips_05
      @Cookiecrips_05 11 днів тому

      @@FantasticSamtasticman’s was ascending like an Angel

  • @pawcanada
    @pawcanada 24 дні тому +19

    Adding to the "Starline is based on Wechnia" idea, I've heard the game will generate a line of stars/asterisks instead of a name for the character if you go to one of the screens that show names (I forget which one it is, but I think it's in the debug mode), hence why his name is "Starline" and he has the line of stars as his emblem/insignia.

  • @sugarsmile7852
    @sugarsmile7852 24 дні тому +15

    The Starline name is a reference to the glitch character from knuckles chaotix named wechina or **********(that's the actual name of the character)

  • @gearybell
    @gearybell 2 дні тому +11

    Hey fantastic samtastic I really love your Fiona Fox characters history vidoe My request conquering storm the lynx Archie Sonic history

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  День тому

      Thanks so much! I'll do my best to get to her, but it probably won't be until the new year

  • @sugarsmile7852
    @sugarsmile7852 24 дні тому +9

    When you realize that Grimer from fleetway sonic the comic is the only Eggman/Robotnik Lackey that didn't die or put in animal capsule(in the sonic comics at least)
    Speaking of i wonder if you going to make a video about STC character,since you talked about archie and idw it's time to talk about Dr. Zachary

  • @Isotropic_Phoenix
    @Isotropic_Phoenix 14 днів тому +2

    The Starline logo actually refers to the glitch in Knuckle’s Chaotix, the weird glitchy palette, that can fly like tails! And the star line, well, that’s the character name in the game when you’re selecting your player character and partner character.

  • @OtterRogueArchive
    @OtterRogueArchive 24 дні тому +13

    Could the 5 stars on the logo be representing a literal “Star line”?

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  24 дні тому +4

      Love it! Literally never put it together

    • @ThatIdiotOmega
      @ThatIdiotOmega 22 дні тому +1

      It is. Starline is a reference to the infamous Wechnia glitch from knuckles chaotix. As a platypus he’s a monotreme like echidnas and the name that shows up for the glitch character in game is a line of asterisks, or a Star line.

  • @omegaproductions6660
    @omegaproductions6660 7 днів тому +1

    The reason why there’s stars in Starline logo is because his name is Starline, so he or a line of stars on his logo

  • @ytwhattup6128
    @ytwhattup6128 22 дні тому +5

    17:38 it's a line of stars...

  • @Thedragonlover95
    @Thedragonlover95 13 днів тому +1

    The guy doesn't have a beaver tail, so I didn't know he was meant t be a platypus

  • @TabuuRulesTheSmashVerse2008
    @TabuuRulesTheSmashVerse2008 23 дні тому +2

    Dr.Starline was my favorite in the comic I love his design, voice, and that he admires Eggman but in the end he met his demise. A decent number of people say Dr.Starline is more evil than Eggman no he isn't he will never surpass Eggman in evil all he did was bring him back and try to kill Sonic and Silver. Afterwards he free Zavok, Mimic, Rough, and Tumble and attempt to destroy innocent lives just to get away with his captives Rouge and Tails he kidnap Surge and Kit turn them into cyborgs to use for his master plan. Eggman did everything Starline did like kidnapping Cream, Vanilla, and Animals and trying to use them as batteries for his robots he always tries to kill the heroes and at one point he blow half the moon. There are so many Sonic villains worst than Dr.Starline such as Black Doom, Infinite, Zavok (Debatable), Erazor Djinn (Sonic and the Secret Rings, Mephiles, Dr.Eggman, and The End (Sonic Frontiers).

  • @Nebulous8091
    @Nebulous8091 24 дні тому +5

    Nice vid, gonna finish drawing your sona soon

  • @General_Nitro1020
    @General_Nitro1020 23 дні тому +7

    Now that Surge has been redeemed I’d say he’s completely gone may he rest in pieces!

    • @SillyTron_
      @SillyTron_ 22 дні тому

      Surge is non redeemed

    • @user-ob1vr8yw2g
      @user-ob1vr8yw2g 18 днів тому

      Sorry pal, They confirmed Surge will go back to villainy for a more tragic character.

  • @thelonemask
    @thelonemask 20 днів тому +1

    Mimic wanted his name erased from Eggman’s database because he was worried that the doctor would hunt him down for failing in his mission before he was apprehended by Tangle and Whisper.

  • @user-ob1vr8yw2g
    @user-ob1vr8yw2g 18 днів тому +1

    He's not coming back. It's been confirmed.

  • @blasterlights3013
    @blasterlights3013 23 дні тому +1

    Rough is the small one, tumble is the big one
    19:21 the orangutan is called Shagi, i think
    20:07 starline has optimus prime matrix of leadership

  • @djb9267
    @djb9267 22 дні тому +2

    I don't know if starline is supposed to be a idiotic fanboy or an actually capable villain. Idw sonic is good to read casually and not take it too seriously, rather than seeing it as canon to the games, similar to frontiers taking a lot of liberties with the characters.

  • @reggielacey2235
    @reggielacey2235 21 день тому

    Cant wait for the surge video as imo she's like the best thing to come out of idw by far

  • @blairterry9435
    @blairterry9435 11 днів тому

    At 20:10! You can see the Matrix of Leadership from the Transformers series.

  • @pablo.gonzales945
    @pablo.gonzales945 10 днів тому

    Eggman was cold af here 2:55

  • @thatweirddude550
    @thatweirddude550 10 днів тому +2

    20:11 is that the matrix of leadership from transformers G1 on the shelf in the left panel or is it a sonic reference I don’t get?

  • @mlgodzilla4206
    @mlgodzilla4206 15 днів тому

    Took me a while to realize Starlight is a platypus

  • @rafakisaa1869
    @rafakisaa1869 5 днів тому +1

    He is a really cool character. That's why I am really sad, they killed him off, just to prove how ,,ooh, aah", Eggman is. We really need a new blood in villains, rather than using the same, old fatso over and over again. I don't say he's a bad villain. I'm just saying the others are not bad either.

  • @danyo5786
    @danyo5786 23 дні тому +5

    His logo is literally a line of stars. Never thought about of that

  • @SuperGamefreak18
    @SuperGamefreak18 11 днів тому

    starline....the 5 stars are stars....in a line

  • @Abner-gu3ve
    @Abner-gu3ve 7 днів тому

    Starline was honestly a great character imo

  • @DevinTownsend-fg1xs
    @DevinTownsend-fg1xs 21 день тому +1

    Great Video Fantastic Samtastic, I was wondering do you think you could make a video on Mammoth Mogul or Mina Mongoose?

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  21 день тому

      Believe it or not, I do have both of them planned. The only thing is that I plan things way in advanced. So no promises, but Mammoth should be around January and Mina somewhere around March

  • @m3tr0id86
    @m3tr0id86 20 днів тому +1

    27:52 For anyone who hasn't seen it, there is this seen but with Julian Robotnik (Satam Robotnik's) voice and I like to believe that the voice we hear now is a cover for how intimidating Robotnik can be.

  • @isauldron4337
    @isauldron4337 24 дні тому +3

    I'm here

  • @silveramyknux241
    @silveramyknux241 22 дні тому +1

    17:37
    Dr. Starline is confirmed by Ian Flynn to be based on the glitched Tails from Knuckles Chaotix, Wechnia.
    The reason for the name Starline is that it’s a reference to the secret/probably debug character and stage select you can access in the game. Where you see a line of stars in the second slot, which is Wechnia.

  • @Catohat52
    @Catohat52 20 днів тому +3

    “Sigma base” even the Sonic comics has fell to brain rot lol

  • @khamsinfu1759
    @khamsinfu1759 19 днів тому

    His logo looks like a skunk tail. Withs stars

  • @TerrX21
    @TerrX21 20 днів тому +2

    Never heard of this peep till day. Looks like he walked out of the Ducktales timeline..... Now I need to go watch Ducktales again.... 🤣

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  19 днів тому +2

      Lol I love this. Ducktales was unironically underrated!

    • @TerrX21
      @TerrX21 19 днів тому +2

      @@FantasticSamtastic woo hoo!! 🦆😂

  • @Rikika333
    @Rikika333 21 день тому +1

    I adore Starline because he's a flawed villain, he makes mistakes that come back to bite him later, he has trouble even getting his plans off the ground sometimes. Honestly it's really refreshing to see a villain struggle for other reasons that being foiled by the heroes.
    Because yeah... having your master plan fall apart after so much work would be really discouraging, it's rather humanizing to see Starline affected by it, to the point of even giving up.
    I really hope he comes back, by far my favorite original character of IDW. If I had to write a story line with Starline, I'd step away from all the bio-engineering and focus more on his hypnosis, because that has big potential.
    Just imagine that nobody knows who is a sleeper agent of Starline or not, nobody can be fully trusted, nobody knows who Starline has secretly hypnotized and made forget they were caught by him. They can't even trust themselves to not turn on their friends, everyone might be just a hair's breath away from having their secret hypnosis triggered, whether that is by hearing a specific word or sentence, observing something or it might even just activate after a certain amount of time has passed.

  • @matthewhenderson8874
    @matthewhenderson8874 23 дні тому +1

    20:09 Was that the Matrix of leadship on a shelf?!

  • @X-Force-D
    @X-Force-D 23 дні тому +2

    28:28 this phrase said by Dr. Eggman "i've made my mistakes, one of then was tolerating you for long", and very similar to a certain phrase said by Starscream in Transformers Prime, "Megatron's biggest mistake was allowing you to live Prime!", and by Megatron from the same Transformers Prime, "My biggest mistake, and I may have made a few but there's one I don't intend to make.",
    You can see that Ian Flynn is a terrible screenwriter , he's just taking the Transformers prime scripts with a straight face

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  22 дні тому

      That seems like an incredible stretch lol

    • @danyo5786
      @danyo5786 22 дні тому

      I refuse to believe that Ian has any interest in anything other than Sonic media

    • @X-Force-D
      @X-Force-D 22 дні тому

      @@danyo5786 Ken Penders he was literally crazy, but Ian Flynn doesn't know how to write anything and that dialogue from Eggman confirmed that.

    • @Turai12
      @Turai12 21 день тому

      @@X-Force-DFlynn did write the Tangle and Whisper mini series which is the best piece of Sonic media so...hard disagree.

    • @X-Force-D
      @X-Force-D 21 день тому +1

      @@Turai12 the main HQ Sonic series was nothing more than the Transformers Scripts, and frankly being a Story that Focuses more on Sonic, Tangle and Whisper will end up forgotten with the Script from the History of Sonic Comics.

  • @silveramyknux241
    @silveramyknux241 22 дні тому

    10:19
    I think it’s a reference to Sonic X. Idk, why Sonic X has it in a shape of a guitar.

  • @Toysonicandfriends2
    @Toysonicandfriends2 24 дні тому +5

    Is starline dead?

  • @Turai12
    @Turai12 21 день тому +1

    Starline is a much better villain than Eggman. I just can't take Eggman seriously with his bombastic and silly personality. Starline on the other hand is occasionally terrifying.
    Especially with his treatment of Surge and Kitsunami.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  19 днів тому +1

      I love each of them for different reasons, Starline being flawed really works well for him

  • @samanthabailey1288
    @samanthabailey1288 22 дні тому

    What species even is?He is like he duck beaver

    • @khamsinfu1759
      @khamsinfu1759 19 днів тому +4

      Platypus

    • @samanthabailey1288
      @samanthabailey1288 19 днів тому

      I knew I was just playing a joke, a very terrible one, indeed. I knew what a platypus Was before I made this comment And also this reply

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    @Mrpoop6640 18 днів тому

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    @Mrpoop6640 18 днів тому

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