I was 19 years old when I bought a used 69 camaro in 1973 and it looked just like this one😊 and that’s no bullshit, had it for 4 years, sold it and got married and bought a house and moved on, I was young enough to enjoy it, no regrets, I now have 9 grandchildren and still married to the same girl , every cop in town knew my name 😊
It’s like you said, he’s had it for that many years and hasn’t really changed anything. I think that’s pretty special. It shows a level of appreciation for what the car is and it means it must be a great fit for the owner. So cool.
I fell in love with Camaros when I first saw one in the parking lot of the apartment complex I lived in as a kid in the spring or 1967. Over the decades I've owned 6.
I just found this video. It gave me goosebumps. I bought my Z/28 in July of 1969. It was brand new. I still have it. It does go around corners like he said. It was my daily driver for years.
What a honey of a car and congrats to the owner for hanging onto it! I had to go back and check the underneath shots, because it sounded like the car had the factory chambered exhaust. Certainly made beautiful sounds. I finally figured out why I like your reviews so much - your respect for the car. The way you drive them, shows their capabilities but never are they abused. One final thought - when the @#$@#$ did 1970 become “50 years ago”? Shouldn’t that be like 1940 at least? 😂. Thank you as always ~ Chuck
😅I totally agree Chuck, hell, I feel like the 1980s were 15 years ago. As for the cars, each and every one is an absolute privilege to drive and I don't take that responsibility lightly.
Full confession...I am not a big Camaro fan. However, I love that Monte has owned the car as long as he has and I love that it's really, really nice but not perfect because it's been used. Mike, thanks again for something special.
To give the z28 DZ 302 more creedance than the factory rated 295 hp rating,engine tester on UA-cam Richard Holdener dyno tested the DZ 302 with a tune and headers on the engine stand.The output came to 357 hp and 334 lb-ft torque. The 302 was never a high torque engine like the 350 which came later in 1970.The Lt1 350 z28 engine made horsepower everywhere in the rpm range and significant torque over the DZ 302 .
I agree more hp than 295 my buddy bought and original 69 z Dz 302 headers it had been rebuilt the previous owner put a put a Duntov cam with 4;10s. We smoked a 69 road runner with a 440 plus 6 3 out of 3 Fun a fast car
I had a 69 z28 that I fully restored . 302 was balanced , and had a general kenetics cam that almost matched the Z offroad cam . 410 gears . 7200 rpm with stock points . It was fast . Ive driven boss 302s . No comparison.
Side note...look at all the pony cars rated at just under 300 hp..a result of insurance companies setting a 300 hp line for increased premiums..mustangs..camaros..amc..mopar..all pretty much made more than 300 hp in the real world Cool to see the Gilmore get some love..if any of y'all are near southwest Michigan be sure to see this world class museum
Very cool car. I know the monster horsepower stuff from that era get alot of love, but I like the more race ready versions like this Z/28 and the Boss 302.
You know whats crazy? Every car show i go to i always see a 69 Camaro in some form or another, no matter how many times I see one i never get tired of looking at these. Its one of the coolest cars ever, especially the Z28.
Mike, I am really liking this series. I am going be critical of the term you are throwing around continually: Muscle Car. The Camaro, Mustang, Javelin, Firebird, Cougar, Challenger and Barracuda are ALL Pony Cars. Kevin Oeste has a great explanation of the difference on his channel. I will leave the Sport Car and Full-Sized performance car definitions aside for now. A Muscle Car is an American Mid-Sized car rear wheel drive built from approximately 1962-ish to about 1976-ish, with a minimum of 383 cubic inches displacement, and a 2-door sedan or convertible, with various combinations of transmissions and axle choices. The Corvette, Cobra, and maybe the AMX define the American Sports Car. The Full-Sized cars are Impala's, Wildcats, Galaxies, Polara's, etc. I give full credit to the Australians for the Falcon's and Torana's Let to controversy and arguing begin.
The 4.10 would help for sure. In my good friends 69 headers and rejecting the carb helped, but a hot aftermarket ignition made a huge difference. It was evidently lacking fire.@@manher4335 After the ignition it revved so much quicker and with power.
When I was in high school, my friend was an amateur boxer. His dad told him that if he won the national championship, he could choose the car he wanted. He won the NAAU boxing championship and chose a 1969 Z28, orange with black stripes and a few go faster options. It was awesome.
My absolute FAVORITE muscle car and year of Camaro of all time- and in my favorite ’69 Camaro color of Daytona Yellow. I had a ‘69 RS Z/28 that was Daytona Yellow when I was a senior in high school. I’ve had a bunch of Chevy cars- mainly Camaros and Chevelles, and a couple of Mustangs over the years, but my ‘69 RS Z/28 I had in high school is the only one that I regret not holding on to, to this day. Monte was smart to keep his Z/28. Thanks for a sharing such cool story and car.👍🏻
Mike so happy to see you on another muscle car series. Totally love it. I’m still kind of lusting after that stick shift suburban. Hit up the smoking tire podcast again for some more press for the show? Always been a fan of your content and way of communicating. Cadilac el Camino shoooo that thing was sexy too.
I like the "Jekyll & Hyde" effect these cars have, I rode in one. The monstrous Hyde mode when this thing decides to shoot from 6k to over 7k is unreal lol love it.
My first car was a 69 Camaro convertible. Loved it! I can tell you that the 290hp rating is low. It is really making more like 350hp, and some even estimate 400hp. The 290hp rating was probably for insurance purposes. The 69 was a stunning car and a true icon. Who needs an expansive computer screen!
Na, it's accurate based on the ratings they used at the time. With comparable rear end gears, virtually every other performance Chevy of that year was quicker in the 1/4 mile and top speed.
Love it Mike! Such a great video. Love the breakdown of the engine vs large blocks. Also, interesting to learn just how nimble the car is. This series is fantastic.
@@hemmingsmotornews For sure. The Avanti R2 episode. Such a great and unique American car and the specimen reviewed looked spectacular. But honestly, they're all great.
Just as you said, had a 70 454 Chevelle SS , sold it, had much more fun with the 69 302 Z28, just like my 64 GTO with a Chevy 327-375HP 4 bolt main also lots of fun. Those were the days !!!
HEY, THIS IS FOR THE GUY DRIVING AND TALKING IN THIS VIDEO! WHAT I ENJOYED MOST OF THIS VIDEO, WAS THE FACT THAT YOU LOOK, SOUND, TALK, AND HAVE ALL THE SAME MANNERISMS AS THE CHARACTER, "DETECTIVE TAGGART" IN THE FIRST "BEVERLY HILLS COP" MOVIE, WITH EDDIE MURPHY. PLEASE! FIND THAT MOVIE ON UA-cam, AND HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS CLOSE TO YOU, THAT KNOWS YOU? SIT WITH YOU AND WATCH THAT CHARACTER! ITS YOU!!!!!!!! ( THE CAR IS COOL TOO )
Facts and Figures about the 1969 Z28 There's no question the 302 was underrated, but by how much? Insiders talk about 375 horsepower at 6800 rpm. Road testers could take the 302 to beyond 7,000rpm and the engine was still pulling.
I enjoy seeing old muscle cars, today I still own my 1971 Baldwin Motion Camaro since 1982, I will never get rid of it. Also the DZ 302 was very underrated in horse power and torque.
I had the same car with the ralleye sport option. I miss it so much. This is a beautiful example of such a fantastic car. Loved this video, tho I had a tear in my eye while watching.
Uncle bought one brand new couldnt wait til he came over. Id have him go start it so I could listen, parents thought I was a wackjob. Ok I was. lol To run quick on the st they really needed a 4.56 gear, 4.11 min they just lacked some low end tq
I owned, showroom fresh, a Z/28 from the very next year, 1970, the Second Gen Camaro, with the next level engine, the 350 cubic inch, 360 HP LT-1. It was a fabulous machine, the sweetest engine, and a bear to parallel park! I'm amazed that the car you got to drive actually exists. I crashed mine, it was repaired incompetently by a Chevy dealer, and traded in, six months later, on the next car my family needed... Sigh.
We were very fortunate for a few reasons. First, that Monte kept the car for all these years. Second, he resisted trends and the urge to modify it. Third, he was kind enough to let us experience it and bring it everyone. Amazing owner and an outstanding car!
BS. Any Boss 302 driver losing to that pooch Z28 was babying his car. I know a guy who had a 70 grabber orange Boss 302 who raced BB CHEVYS MOPARS and the car he wasted the most in races were the Z28,s. He,d have a 5 car length lead by the time he hit 3rd gear and from there it was BYE bye chevy in his rearview.
Love the channel Mike, great content and you do a very nice job narrating and pointing out the details of each ride. We're fellow New Yorkers - I can remember seeing your primed Charger 'Mr. Angry' at local shows on Long Island years ago. Still plenty of great muscle cars on the Island, as I'm sure you recall, love to see you showcase some on the channel in the future. Keep up the great work. Adam
I owned an SS that looked exactly like that. California hood with electric fuel pump. It wasn't for me but I can see how someone would love it. How long ago was that? Sold it for 5k
I bought my 70 Z/28 4 speed in 1981 from the original owner. I ran into him about 3 yrs ago and he asked me if it was for sale. Nope.😮 I told him a friend of mine owns 2 and I could find out if any are for sale. He said, no, I want mine back.
GM: "We want to compete in 'Trans Am, but we have a '327. No, too big. How about the '283? No, too small. Hey, let's put the 283's crank in the 327. That'll give us a '302. Yeah, that'll do it."
In 1981 an employee at my dads business, Mark (18 yrs old) got a numbers matching Z28 for Christmas. On a snowy Saturday evening his dad pleads with him to not take the beautiful Jet Black Z28 out, and instead take out the family 1977 Oldsmobile 88 (nice car) which had snow tires. Unfortunately, his dad gave in and Mark took out the Z28. Twenty minutes later he wraps the car around a telephone pole, the police ticket him and noted that he had been drinking. The front end was destroyed and the frame bent. The car was sold as is to someone who was restoring a Z28. This in no way is an excuse or justifies what happened, but in 1981 the 1969 Camaro Z28 was not that that rare of a car, you could still find them for less than $6k-$7k. Well, his parents went from being friendly to ballistic, actually throwing him out of the house. He joined the Marines three months later and we lost contact.
Is the seat moved back all the way? I’m 6’2” 190 and when I have my seat all the way back in my 70 Z28, It’s too far back, I have to move it up cause the steering wheel is far away. In 74 I bought a 68 Z/28 and it was tighter than my 70.😮 I bought my 70 4-spd Z28 from the original owner in 1981. He keeps asking me, are you ready to sell it yet? Nope.
The Z/28 and Boss 302 get a lot of love. I think a lot of it has to do with their motors. I forget which magazine, could have been Car Life, Motor Trend, Car and Driver, etc., did a comparison test with the Z/28, Boss 302, Dart GTS and I think Javelin. The Dart GTS 340 was objectively and subjectively the best on the road course. Believe me, I was disappointed that neither the Z/28 or Boss 302 had the better lap time. And the drivers all criticized the Z/28 and Boss for the bad handling traits.
False advertising. The 69 Z was not set up to run with THE BOSS. The ford 302 had better heads, camshaft and solid lifter configuration and better rear end gearing. Off the line the fords powerband was awesome while the Z did not make power till it hit 5 grand . By that time the race was over.
Huff, Huff yes 69Z- MEANS alot, but some folk don't care. That's ok. I watched these autos, as a kid, barrel up the street. I wanted one. Owned several nice ones. Good times.
I had a 69 z/28. In 1975. Had a few muscle cars over the years. The best was the 69 z/28. The 290 hp was under rated. That hp rating was at 5800 rpm. We all know these 302 could pull easy 7000 rpm. Actual hp was around 350 from what i have been told. My z/28 had 4:10 gears. Was a dog starting out till rpm was past 4500 rpm. That where the power started. Wish i stilk had it. Bought it in 1975 for $ 4250.00. Canadian dollars. Lol...
Right on dude. I know a guy that had a 70 boss 302 and beat tons of 69Z s . He said he ,d get a monster jump off the line due to the stangs better bottom end and the 302 boss would wind so high the chevy got left in the dust. He beat a 69 427 chevelle by a fender one time and the chevy guy made him pop the hood to show him it was a SB and not a BB transplant .
@@twolak1972 '67-'69 Camaro stock Z/28 cars were sloth-slow turds. NHRA pure stock class, the Z/28 Camaro was two classes lower than the Boss 302 Mustang.
The engine Suffix Code, just an easy way to identify the engine and was stamped on the front pad. The 69 Z28 4-bolt engine was DZ, the 67 and 68 with 2-bolt blocks were MO.
The first-gen Z28 (and Boss 302 Mustang) were incredibly overrated. Many prominent magazines wrung them out in the quarter mile back in the day, and low 15's were common
You had to be a car guy back then to get these cars to run, just buying a new car and taking it straight to the track didn't work back then like it does today, you had to tune and tweak or you would get embarrassed real quick.
@@thud9797nah they just aren't that quick or fast without fairly major mods. 14.7. - 14.9 is about the usual. This guy is talking all rhetoric and feel. Nowhere does he give you actual performance data.
A lot of exaggeration here from fanboys. Hot Rod magazine, 1969, tested one, with aftermarket headers, 4.56 rear instead of 3.73. best run, 14.34 @101. Yes, that's good, but using gearing that you're almost to top speed at end of 1/4 mile. Going to better tires, they got down to 14.20. Nothing to indicate 400gross HP. Heavier muscle cars, with 400hp or more rating, and similar rear end gearing, were regularly running low 13's. Here endeth the lesson.
Shoulder belt? My dad’s ‘72 Z28/RS has those but they are still routed along the head liner and have never been used. The lap belts have console holsters which are pretty cool in retrospect.
I was that kid who rode around in the back seat of a hugger orange 1969 camaro while my cousin who owned the car and my dad drove around beating the hell out of it and it broke the clutch disc and put a dampen on are fun! I must have been about ten years old and the year was 1977
There are two vids from Mike that are must see because they are on opposite ends of the $$ scale however they had the same goals and execution. " Ohio Street Freak: 1969 Chevrolet Nova - The House Of Muscle Ep. 4 " " 200-MPH, Turbo Hemi Street Car! The Ultimate Belvedere - The House Of Muscle Ep. 3 " " MotorTrend Channel "
Z/28s came with a M22 Muncie transmission and 4;10 rear end gears and the DZ 302 made 450 + HP . Dude just shut up you don't what you are talking about !
BS, No Chevy 302 made close to 400 hp let alone 450. I watched a video where a expert dyno,d both the 302,s and the DZ topped out at 355 and the Ford 385 so you STFU you dont know shit .
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I was 19 years old when I bought a used 69 camaro in 1973 and it looked just like this one😊 and that’s no bullshit, had it for 4 years, sold it and got married and bought a house and moved on, I was young enough to enjoy it, no regrets, I now have 9 grandchildren and still married to the same girl , every cop in town knew my name 😊
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It’s like you said, he’s had it for that many years and hasn’t really changed anything. I think that’s pretty special. It shows a level of appreciation for what the car is and it means it must be a great fit for the owner. So cool.
It was very cool - there aren't many like this left.
I fell in love with Camaros when I first saw one in the parking lot of the apartment complex I lived in as a kid in the spring or 1967.
Over the decades I've owned 6.
Amazing how some cars just stick with you right?
I just found this video. It gave me goosebumps.
I bought my Z/28 in July of 1969. It was brand new. I still have it. It does go around corners like he said. It was my daily driver for years.
What a honey of a car and congrats to the owner for hanging onto it! I had to go back and check the underneath shots, because it sounded like the car had the factory chambered exhaust. Certainly made beautiful sounds. I finally figured out why I like your reviews so much - your respect for the car. The way you drive them, shows their capabilities but never are they abused. One final thought - when the @#$@#$ did 1970 become “50 years ago”? Shouldn’t that be like 1940 at least? 😂. Thank you as always ~ Chuck
😅I totally agree Chuck, hell, I feel like the 1980s were 15 years ago. As for the cars, each and every one is an absolute privilege to drive and I don't take that responsibility lightly.
Full confession...I am not a big Camaro fan. However, I love that Monte has owned the car as long as he has and I love that it's really, really nice but not perfect because it's been used. Mike, thanks again for something special.
Absolutely, car was great and we're super fortunate that Monte was kind enough to let us experience it.
To give the z28 DZ 302 more creedance than the factory rated 295 hp rating,engine tester on UA-cam Richard Holdener dyno tested the DZ 302 with a tune and headers on the engine stand.The output came to 357 hp and 334 lb-ft torque. The 302 was never a high torque engine like the 350 which came later in 1970.The Lt1 350 z28 engine made horsepower everywhere in the rpm range and significant torque over the DZ 302 .
I agree more hp than 295 my buddy bought and original 69 z Dz 302 headers it had been rebuilt the previous owner put a put a Duntov cam with 4;10s. We smoked a 69 road runner with a 440 plus 6 3 out of 3 Fun a fast car
I had a 69 z28 that I fully restored . 302 was balanced , and had a general kenetics cam that almost matched the Z offroad cam . 410 gears . 7200 rpm with stock points . It was fast . Ive driven boss 302s . No comparison.
I used love watching Mike on big muscle glad to find him here
I am too 😆
Side note...look at all the pony cars rated at just under 300 hp..a result of insurance companies setting a 300 hp line for increased premiums..mustangs..camaros..amc..mopar..all pretty much made more than 300 hp in the real world
Cool to see the Gilmore get some love..if any of y'all are near southwest Michigan be sure to see this world class museum
The Gilmore is a fantastic facility that should be a bucket list stop for any enthusiast.
Very cool car. I know the monster horsepower stuff from that era get alot of love, but I like the more race ready versions like this Z/28 and the Boss 302.
Agree, when you drive them the difference is significantly apparent in what the OEMs were trying to accomplish.
I really enjoyed the History about the z28 Camaro , great job !
You know whats crazy? Every car show i go to i always see a 69 Camaro in some form or another, no matter how many times I see one i never get tired of looking at these. Its one of the coolest cars ever, especially the Z28.
Mike, I am really liking this series. I am going be critical of the term you are throwing around continually: Muscle Car. The Camaro, Mustang, Javelin, Firebird, Cougar, Challenger and Barracuda are ALL Pony Cars. Kevin Oeste has a great explanation of the difference on his channel. I will leave the Sport Car and Full-Sized performance car definitions aside for now. A Muscle Car is an American Mid-Sized car rear wheel drive built from approximately 1962-ish to about 1976-ish, with a minimum of 383 cubic inches displacement, and a 2-door sedan or convertible, with various combinations of transmissions and axle choices. The Corvette, Cobra, and maybe the AMX define the American Sports Car. The Full-Sized cars are Impala's, Wildcats, Galaxies, Polara's, etc. I give full credit to the Australians for the Falcon's and Torana's Let to controversy and arguing begin.
The 69 Z was a trans-am car. Change the rear end gear and a few tweaks under the hood it became a street beast.
HEaders 4.56 a tire tuning tweaks they ran hard
Car craft did the same to a 70 back then and ran a 12.90
Hmmm. Could the 4:10 be a good middle-ground when it comes to rear-ends? As far as performance and drivability is concerned? I wonder.
The 4.10 would help for sure. In my good friends 69 headers and rejecting the carb helped, but a hot aftermarket ignition made a huge difference. It was evidently lacking fire.@@manher4335 After the ignition it revved so much quicker and with power.
Owned a 69 dz 302 angle plug heads 488 gears 850 dp holley 11 sec all day
@@kidnplaye4630 BULLSH*T.
When I was in high school, my friend was an amateur boxer. His dad told him that if he won the national championship, he could choose the car he wanted. He won the NAAU boxing championship and chose a 1969 Z28, orange with black stripes and a few go faster options. It was awesome.
NICE!
Ok now you HAVE to do a boss 302!
Lemme see what I can do!
Beautiful machine and love story!
I love my 67 Camaro.
My absolute FAVORITE muscle car and year of Camaro of all time- and in my favorite ’69 Camaro color of Daytona Yellow.
I had a ‘69 RS Z/28 that was Daytona Yellow when I was a senior in high school. I’ve had a bunch of Chevy cars- mainly Camaros and Chevelles, and a couple of Mustangs over the years, but my ‘69 RS Z/28 I had in high school is the only one that I regret not holding on to, to this day. Monte was smart to keep his Z/28.
Thanks for a sharing such cool story and car.👍🏻
i love these Big Muscle type series.
please keep them coming and keep it going!!!
Will do!
Thank you for the support!
nice to see you doing these types of videos again!
Thank you!
Oh mike musto is BACK!! Big childhood fan from motor trend. Welcome back sir very happy to see you again 😎
Thank you - appreciate the kind words!
Mike so happy to see you on another muscle car series. Totally love it. I’m still kind of lusting after that stick shift suburban.
Hit up the smoking tire podcast again for some more press for the show?
Always been a fan of your content and way of communicating.
Cadilac el Camino shoooo that thing was sexy too.
Appreciate the kind words, and yeah... I miss the Suburban too!
290hp/290tq lol. Was under rated from the factory. Higher in the rpm they made more power. Great car.
More Like 400 Hp
@@jcray2319 You've bought into the hype! The truth is ( according to a GM engineer who helped design the engine ) the 302 really made 320 - 330 H.P.
Finally, someone tells the truth about added lightness vs big block bluster. Thanks, Mr Mike....
This car was a gem - and never once did I feel it was lacking for power.
Made only in 1969 with DZ 302 high performance engine. What a beautiful car!
The engine was a little screamer!
@@drivebigmuscle8080 the power band was probably 3,500-6,500. Lacked low end torque. Hey it's a 302 not a big bock!
I like the "Jekyll & Hyde" effect these cars have, I rode in one. The monstrous Hyde mode when this thing decides to shoot from 6k to over 7k is unreal lol love it.
302 was built for 3 years! 67, very few, 68, more, and 69, the highest production year of the 302.
NOPE. 67 THRU 69 ALL HAD THE 302.
Dealer installed headers or Monty installed headers? If my memory serves me you could get 2 X 4s & headers "in the trunk" on the Z28.
My first car was a 69 Camaro convertible. Loved it! I can tell you that the 290hp rating is low. It is really making more like 350hp, and some even estimate 400hp. The 290hp rating was probably for insurance purposes. The 69 was a stunning car and a true icon. Who needs an expansive computer screen!
Na, it's accurate based on the ratings they used at the time. With comparable rear end gears, virtually every other performance Chevy of that year was quicker in the 1/4 mile and top speed.
I agree with you, those old Camaros are beasts!
Love it Mike! Such a great video. Love the breakdown of the engine vs large blocks. Also, interesting to learn just how nimble the car is. This series is fantastic.
Thank you for the support! Do you have a favorite episode from this series?
@@hemmingsmotornews For sure. The Avanti R2 episode. Such a great and unique American car and the specimen reviewed looked spectacular. But honestly, they're all great.
Just as you said, had a 70 454 Chevelle SS , sold it, had much more fun with the 69 302 Z28, just like my 64 GTO with a Chevy 327-375HP 4 bolt main also lots of fun. Those were the days !!!
Nice video Mr. Musto, thanks!
Absolutely and thank you for watching!
HEY, THIS IS FOR THE GUY DRIVING AND TALKING IN THIS VIDEO! WHAT I ENJOYED MOST OF THIS VIDEO, WAS THE FACT THAT YOU LOOK, SOUND, TALK, AND HAVE ALL THE SAME MANNERISMS AS THE CHARACTER, "DETECTIVE TAGGART" IN THE FIRST "BEVERLY HILLS COP" MOVIE, WITH EDDIE MURPHY. PLEASE! FIND THAT MOVIE ON UA-cam, AND HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS CLOSE TO YOU, THAT KNOWS YOU? SIT WITH YOU AND WATCH THAT CHARACTER! ITS YOU!!!!!!!! ( THE CAR IS COOL TOO )
Take that as a compliment! 🙌
@@hemmingsmotornews YES IT WAS!
Facts and Figures about the 1969 Z28
There's no question the 302 was underrated, but by how much? Insiders talk about 375 horsepower at 6800 rpm. Road testers could take the 302 to beyond 7,000rpm and the engine was still pulling.
340ish
The cross ram dual quad 302 with the GM Penske #140 cam made 480 hp. Look it up.
@@WELLRESPECTEDAPE Had more done to it than just a cam and intake
@@gordocarbo You're close with your guess! The actual Number was 320-330 H.P.
@@gordocarbo A lot more!
I enjoy seeing old muscle cars, today I still own my 1971 Baldwin Motion Camaro since 1982, I will never get rid of it.
Also the DZ 302 was very underrated in horse power and torque.
Well done!
I had the same car with the ralleye sport option. I miss it so much. This is a beautiful example of such a fantastic car. Loved this video, tho I had a tear in my eye while watching.
Thank you for the support! Would you plan on getting another one some day?
I got into bikes over the years. But if found the right 69 z28, I would probably go for it. I love your car!!!!! Can't beat daytona yellow.
Uncle bought one brand new couldnt wait til he came over. Id have him go start it so I could listen, parents thought I was a wackjob. Ok I was. lol
To run quick on the st they really needed a 4.56 gear, 4.11 min they just lacked some low end tq
I'm a Plymouth guy but that Camaro is stunning! My favourite Z/28 of all.
Oh... if you like Plymouth's then hang tight... I've got a good one coming!
aar 340 -6!!!!@@drivebigmuscle8080
I’m 6’4 230 and I love the way I fit in my 68 RS/SS Camaro 350 with 4 speed Muncie 115k original miles. Front disc brake car.
I owned, showroom fresh, a Z/28 from the very next year, 1970, the Second Gen Camaro, with the next level engine, the 350 cubic inch, 360 HP LT-1. It was a fabulous machine, the sweetest engine, and a bear to parallel park! I'm amazed that the car you got to drive actually exists. I crashed mine, it was repaired incompetently by a Chevy dealer, and traded in, six months later, on the next car my family needed... Sigh.
We were very fortunate for a few reasons. First, that Monte kept the car for all these years. Second, he resisted trends and the urge to modify it. Third, he was kind enough to let us experience it and bring it everyone. Amazing owner and an outstanding car!
Eats Mustangs for breakfast, lunch & dinner, what a beast!!! 🤩
Was that back in the era of horses and buggies?!
BS. Any Boss 302 driver losing to that pooch Z28 was babying his car. I know a guy who had a 70 grabber orange Boss 302 who raced BB CHEVYS MOPARS and the car he wasted the most in races were the Z28,s. He,d have a 5 car length lead by the time he hit 3rd gear and from there it was BYE bye chevy in his rearview.
Dream much?@@twolak1972
Dream much?@@twolak1972
@@twolak1972What are ya smoking?
I had a 75 camaro that ate mustangs and others every weekend , that was fun !!
your stream here is way off, the 302 was rated at 290hp for insurance. it made way more than that.
LeMans Blue was the best colors. I had a 69 Lemans blue Camaro. Miss it dearly!
Love the channel Mike, great content and you do a very nice job narrating and pointing out the details of each ride. We're fellow New Yorkers - I can remember seeing your primed Charger 'Mr. Angry' at local shows on Long Island years ago. Still plenty of great muscle cars on the Island, as I'm sure you recall, love to see you showcase some on the channel in the future. Keep up the great work. Adam
Oh trust me, we'll be getting back NY!
Doubt it eats mustangs ....mustangs are still being manufactured and they are 10x more popular
You realize the car this car is 54 years old right?
If butt hurt had a voice 🙄
Good for him. This man knew what he had for a long long time. Hope he never sells it and drives it for another 50K !
Agreed!
I owned an SS that looked exactly like that. California hood with electric fuel pump. It wasn't for me but I can see how someone would love it. How long ago was that? Sold it for 5k
I bought my 70 Z/28 4 speed in 1981 from the original owner. I ran into him about 3 yrs ago and he asked me if it was for sale. Nope.😮 I told him a friend of mine owns 2 and I could find out if any are for sale. He said, no, I want mine back.
Don't ever let it go.
Favorite year of Camaro. Always wanted one in Citrus Green. What a gem. Happy for you, awesome car. Enjoy it always.
GM: "We want to compete in 'Trans Am, but we have a '327. No, too big. How about the '283? No, too small. Hey, let's put the 283's crank in the 327. That'll give us a '302. Yeah, that'll do it."
Great video. Love my 69 Camaro . Not a Z28 but upgraded to big block. 🚗
There is no bad 1969 Camaro!
In 1981 an employee at my dads business, Mark (18 yrs old) got a numbers matching Z28 for Christmas. On a snowy Saturday evening his dad pleads with him to not take the beautiful Jet Black Z28 out, and instead take out the family 1977 Oldsmobile 88 (nice car) which had snow tires. Unfortunately, his dad gave in and Mark took out the Z28. Twenty minutes later he wraps the car around a telephone pole, the police ticket him and noted that he had been drinking. The front end was destroyed and the frame bent. The car was sold as is to someone who was restoring a Z28. This in no way is an excuse or justifies what happened, but in 1981 the 1969 Camaro Z28 was not that that rare of a car, you could still find them for less than $6k-$7k. Well, his parents went from being friendly to ballistic, actually throwing him out of the house. He joined the Marines three months later and we lost contact.
What a story, hopefully hes doing well! Thank you for sharing.
Is the seat moved back all the way? I’m 6’2” 190 and when I have my seat all the way back in my 70 Z28, It’s too far back, I have to move it up cause the steering wheel is far away. In 74 I bought a 68 Z/28 and it was tighter than my 70.😮 I bought my 70 4-spd Z28 from the original owner in 1981. He keeps asking me, are you ready to sell it yet? Nope.
The Z/28 and Boss 302 get a lot of love. I think a lot of it has to do with their motors. I forget which magazine, could have been Car Life, Motor Trend, Car and Driver, etc., did a comparison test with the Z/28, Boss 302, Dart GTS and I think Javelin. The Dart GTS 340 was objectively and subjectively the best on the road course. Believe me, I was disappointed that neither the Z/28 or Boss 302 had the better lap time. And the drivers all criticized the Z/28 and Boss for the bad handling traits.
Uh, that's a little hard to believe, when the 1969 Z/28 was the 1968- 69 TransAm champion 2 years running.
@@WELLRESPECTEDAPE Those were modified cars though. The magazine was testing showroom stock cars.
Of course they had to put "Eats Mustangs" in the caption to draw in the Ford guys and get views. 🤓
False advertising. The 69 Z was not set up to run with THE BOSS. The ford 302 had better heads, camshaft and solid lifter configuration and better rear end gearing. Off the line the fords powerband was awesome while the Z did not make power till it hit 5 grand . By that time the race was over.
Huff, Huff yes 69Z- MEANS alot, but some folk don't care. That's ok. I watched these autos, as a kid, barrel up the street. I wanted one.
Owned several nice ones. Good times.
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Keep rocking Mike!
Thank you Sir!!
I had a 69 z/28. In 1975. Had a few muscle cars over the years. The best was the 69 z/28. The 290 hp was under rated. That hp rating was at 5800 rpm. We all know these 302 could pull easy 7000 rpm. Actual hp was around 350 from what i have been told. My z/28 had 4:10 gears. Was a dog starting out till rpm was past 4500 rpm. That where the power started. Wish i stilk had it. Bought it in 1975 for $ 4250.00. Canadian dollars. Lol...
I have 1969 rally sport z---I shift at 7 grand all day long----thats aerobics for the 302--
Not one stock 1967-1969 Camaro Z/28 ever beat my stock 1969 Ford Boss 302 Mustang. I bought it new form Tasca Ford in RI,
Great story, thanks for sharing...
Answer to a question nobody ask
@@1234597114why claim Camaros eat Mustangs?
Right on dude. I know a guy that had a 70 boss 302 and beat tons of 69Z s . He said he ,d get a monster jump off the line due to the stangs better bottom end and the 302 boss would wind so high the chevy got left in the dust. He beat a 69 427 chevelle by a fender one time and the chevy guy made him pop the hood to show him it was a SB and not a BB transplant .
@@twolak1972 '67-'69 Camaro stock Z/28 cars were sloth-slow turds. NHRA pure stock class, the Z/28 Camaro was two classes lower than the Boss 302 Mustang.
A dream car.
The 69 Z/28, my all time favorite Muscle Car
And it was an absolute beauty
Wow that's an awesome car
68 is best looking car imo.
Dang, 59.5k miles is what my '87 Grand National had on it when I bought it in Spring of 2009. For a '69, in '23, that's practically nothing.
I love the fact Monte knew how special it was that he resisted the urge to change it. How many miles does your GN have on it now?
@@drivebigmuscle8080 77k and change.
Bonus question #37 > What do the Initials D.Z. refer to?
The engine Suffix Code, just an easy way to identify the engine and was stamped on the front pad. The 69 Z28 4-bolt engine was DZ, the 67 and 68 with 2-bolt blocks were MO.
2nd Rockford Illinois view
My father in law is the original owner of a 65 Mustang all original with a 289! Mike can we set something up?
I think the sales numbers speak for themselves, it wasn’t Ford that was nervous.
Not even a Guldstrand Mod ? and not even reinforcing the welds of all the subframe supports??
Please expand on what that is...
The dude is guessing how much horsepower its got by the feel of how much acceleration its got!?.. .
i want to build this car so badly
Did the 1969 Z28 ever come with a small block 427?
WHATS A SMALL BLOCK 427. LOL
no
The first-gen Z28 (and Boss 302 Mustang) were incredibly overrated. Many prominent magazines wrung them out in the quarter mile back in the day, and low 15's were common
You had to be a car guy back then to get these cars to run, just buying a new car and taking it straight to the track didn't work back then like it does today, you had to tune and tweak or you would get embarrassed real quick.
@@thud9797nah they just aren't that quick or fast without fairly major mods. 14.7. - 14.9 is about the usual. This guy is talking all rhetoric and feel. Nowhere does he give you actual performance data.
A lot of exaggeration here from fanboys. Hot Rod magazine, 1969, tested one, with aftermarket headers, 4.56 rear instead of 3.73. best run, 14.34 @101. Yes, that's good, but using gearing that you're almost to top speed at end of 1/4 mile. Going to better tires, they got down to 14.20. Nothing to indicate 400gross HP. Heavier muscle cars, with 400hp or more rating, and similar rear end gearing, were regularly running low 13's. Here endeth the lesson.
Thank you for the insight and knowledge! 🤝
Not wearing the shoulder belt?
Shoulder belt? My dad’s ‘72 Z28/RS has those but they are still routed along the head liner and have never been used. The lap belts have console holsters which are pretty cool in retrospect.
Stopped watching at the stroking of the wheel.
They had a after market cross ram manifold you could buy, which boosted the H.P. to over 500+ h.p. from that already screamin lil 302...
I was that kid who rode around in the back seat of a hugger orange 1969 camaro while my cousin who owned the car and my dad drove around beating the hell out of it and it broke the clutch disc and put a dampen on are fun! I must have been about ten years old and the year was 1977
Thanks for sharing!
super nice
The Z28 handles because Chevrolet learned that American cars can handle: the Corvette.
Proof you an drive them and they "dont get ruined"
gotta drive em at least once a week to run good forever.
No stock '67-'69 Camaro Z/28 ever beat my stock all options '69 Boss 302 Mustang that I bought new from Tasca Ford in RI.
If your dash is cracked don't cover..fix!
Pulling the dash on an older car is a mess compared to a modern car from say 2000's up. A cover is just fine.
The 69 Z was a trans-am car.
The Mustang Boss 429 from the same year had 375 horsepower, how much does the Z28 have?
290... and what's the weight of a 429 compared to the Camaro's 4.9L?
How much HP did Boss 302 have? 290
Shit the L78 396 had 375 HP
The Z28 was rated at 290 HP, but made around 340-350 HP. It used the same cam and heads as the 365 HP 327 fuelie.
385 dyno,d. BOSS 302 had more horsepower better heads and cam.set up.
Cool cars❤❤❤❤
This Car Put Out Like 400 Hp and Thats A Fact
Ah, no it isn't. I look forward to a link for a dyno test with factory exhaust showing anything even close. You're in fantasy land.
290 horse at 2500RPM
I want one
More like "a ferocious little animal that gets outsold by the Mustang and intermittently goes out of production."
That doesn't mean the Mustang was better, it just means it was different.
@@drivebigmuscle8080WAY BETTER. The mustang had better heads , gearing and cam shaft configurations.
NOT a muscle car. It's a pony car.
There are two vids from Mike that are must see because they are on opposite ends of the $$ scale however they had the same goals and execution.
" Ohio Street Freak: 1969 Chevrolet Nova - The House Of Muscle Ep. 4 "
" 200-MPH, Turbo Hemi Street Car! The Ultimate Belvedere - The House Of Muscle Ep. 3 "
" MotorTrend Channel "
And both were equally outstanding!
Z/28s came with a M22 Muncie transmission and 4;10 rear end gears and the DZ 302 made 450 + HP . Dude just shut up you don't what you are talking about !
BS, No Chevy 302 made close to 400 hp let alone 450. I watched a video where a expert dyno,d both the 302,s and the DZ topped out at 355 and the Ford 385 so you STFU you dont know shit .
HAHA 450 HP. YEAH RIGHT. SAW A STOCK 69 Z DYNO,D AT 365 HP. BOSS 302 DYNO,D AT 385 HP.
@@twolak1972 500 HP
@@zcam1969 YEAH OK. A BOSS 429 . NOT THAT JUNK Z28.
@@twolak1972 your Pinto can't go 75mph Boss Man
All time favorite. I'm a purist.
Glad you enjoy it!
or anything else that gets in its way
350-375 hp
Camaro was not a made up name, it's comes from a Latin word "Camara" meaning friend.
Great video and 69!! But i love my 2nd gen 71 Z28.
How long have you had it?!
Oh, yeah? Eats Mustangs? Don't think so! Try it against a 2016-2019 GT350 or 2020 GT500!! Haaaa!!😀😀🛠️🛠️