Doing a vertical split on a bee hive

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  • @burtonsbeefarm3834
    @burtonsbeefarm3834 7 років тому +2

    Mr. Ed, I tried your vertical split. thanks for posting! it has worked like a charm. It is the easiest method I have seen! thanks again! Love your videos!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +1

      Glad it worked for you Charles, but the method I use was taught by the man who developed it over a number of years. His name is Julian Laine, Jr. and he teaches a workshop in Covington, Louisiana on the method he calls the seven day emergency cell system. It's all his work, and it really is simple and effective. Thanks for watching and letting me know the results. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

    • @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210
      @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 2 роки тому

      how does Ed know the queen is in the upper box?

  • @scottreese5492
    @scottreese5492 Рік тому +1

    Your one of the few I watch that consistently praises God for His goodness, anyone that doesn't believe in an almighty creator just needs to do bees.....they are an unexplainable proof of an awesome God. Praise Jesus

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  Рік тому

      Amen to that Scott. Thank you so much for your support in my efforts to give God the glory for all He does for us....especially for giving us His son. God's peace brother.
      Mr. Ed

  • @oreetlabore
    @oreetlabore 6 років тому +3

    Jeff,
    I think it would be very interesting to see a complete series of videos on these splits, including queen cell evaluation, mite counts, etc... This would be very useful for 'young' beekeepers and also for the 'elderly'. In fact, all of your videos are very much worth watching and I would like to see you make more.... Keep up the Good Work. Thanks. Jan Verheye from Belgium (Europe).

  • @ptjzmemory
    @ptjzmemory 7 років тому +1

    I am very grateful that you explain what you are doing so well. Seriously. Because it is interesting and amazing to me. Great video!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      It really is a lot of fun to make the videos, and I'm glad you find them helpful. Thanks for your kind words Juliana. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @628DirtRooster
    @628DirtRooster 7 років тому +4

    Just another fun day in the bee yard. My wife was watching with me and she was wondering if you were using some of my boxes. ;)

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +8

      When I went past your house 5 months ago I noticed a pile of old bee boxes by the garbage can. I figured you were throwing them out, so I just helped myself. Little did I know that they were your best ones. Listen, you may not want them back, I repaired them so that all the gaping holes and rotten wood is gone, I'm sure you never noticed all of that. Is your wife a detective? She really has an eye for detail. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed

  • @ginaduncan4979
    @ginaduncan4979 7 років тому +2

    Very informative!!! Your explanation of what you're doing is fantastic!!!! Thank you!!!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      It's always fun for me Gina, I'm glad folks like you and Nick like it too. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @sundownerwhoopwhoop5016
    @sundownerwhoopwhoop5016 6 років тому +1

    Mr Ed I think Roosters wife is a detective she nailed you lol God Bless

  • @movinon04
    @movinon04 7 років тому +1

    nice start to the split- when you stumbled all i could think of was Jeff on the ground covered in honey and bees- careful now- you get hurt whos gonna keep me entertained??- lol-- blessings

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      I really get excited working with the bees in case you hadn't noticed. It's all in a days fun. Keep the comments coming, and I'll keep the videos coming. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @JeromeBeeFarm
    @JeromeBeeFarm 7 років тому +1

    Got my double screens in Friday from Mann Lake, but didn't get one installed until today. I put a frame of fresh eggs below since I found the queen up top, just in case there wasn't any good egg frames down there. I notched it too in 6 places on the eggs. It was all older comb down there and I was having a hard time seeing and the sun was setting didn't help. Now wait and see.

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +1

      You did good, make sure you check for queen cells in 7 to 10 days on the bottom box. Let me know how it comes out. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed

    • @JeromeBeeFarm
      @JeromeBeeFarm 7 років тому

      Checked my vertical split today. Day ten. Queen 👸 was up top and was laying a little. She looked sad and demoralized. Harr. The bottom was full of emergency queen cells. I made one nuc, put a frame of queen cells in my last remaining queenless hive , and left the rest of the bottom in place. I moved the top with original queen to a new location, so hopefully I have 4 good hives from the one.

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +1

      WOW! Great job. I keep the old queen on top the hive for about 2 weeks,
      then I move her. All her field bees will go back to the original hive, I
      add another super with the opening still in the rear on the old hive, and
      all the old queens field bees rejoin their original hive. By taking away
      her workers, it lessens the likelihood of her swarming on you in a few
      weeks, and more than likely, she will be superceeded because the remaining
      bees think there is something wrong with her. Now you have new queens in
      ALL your hives. Well in theory that's how it works. I think I made 21
      splits from our hives, and I've caught 10 swarms in the traps. Spring is
      looking REALLY good for Abbee Honey. God's peace brother.

  • @sgtmayhem
    @sgtmayhem 7 років тому

    Nothing hard about it but patience. Thank you sir!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +1

      Believe it or not, the virtue I am praying for diligently during lent is patience. It always seems to be in short supply for me , so I'm praying for it. Sarge, thanks so much for keeping tabs on what me and the bees are up to, I really appreciate it. Stay tuned, there's lots more on the way. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed

  • @mrtraumaboyy4098
    @mrtraumaboyy4098 3 роки тому +1

    OK...for the 5%....since that is the kind of luck I have....If the queen is in the bottom box and you see the emergency cells in the top box when you come back. What is the next step? Thank you and God bless you for what you do for this community!!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  3 роки тому +1

      Simple, reverse the boxes and wait about 2 weeks and then split them. Thanks for your blessings and for watching. God's peace brother.
      Mr. Ed

  • @danameable
    @danameable 7 років тому

    Nice video as usual keep the good work coming and if its in the garbage its not steeling.

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      When you are dealing with the Dirt Rooster, it's hard to tell the difference between what is good and what is trash.....even if it is by the garbage can. Thanks for watching brother. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @shaunbarker9201
    @shaunbarker9201 7 років тому

    Nice work Jeff and of course Ralph.
    It must be tough to manage bees in the desert with natural foliage in abundance.
    I hope you got a quick peek at my vid,bad I know but as you say......
    Keep on watching I'll be making more
    God bless Jeff and please say hi to randy and thank him for his comment on the green hive swarm.
    Kingsdon bees

  • @NewEnglandgardening
    @NewEnglandgardening 7 років тому +1

    So if the queen is in the bottom box the second box will have only nurse bees and queen cells and if she is in the second box the bottom box will have nurse bees and all the returning workers to produce queen cells? Will there be enough pollen and honey and bees in both scenarios to produce a queen cell?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      Ideally, the queen will be in the top box, where she will be 95% of the time. There will be larva young enough in the bottom box so that the workers can produce another queen in that box. After the new queen emerges in the bottom box, each box will have a queen in it. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @gavtris
    @gavtris 2 роки тому +1

    Is this type of approach appropriate if I already have a strong hive with queen cells forming? If I leave the queen cells in the bottom brood box, and move the queen and the super above with a split board between?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  2 роки тому

      If it were me, I'd wait till the cells were capped and then make the split. God's peace Gavin.
      Mr. Ed

  • @charlesoneill466
    @charlesoneill466 6 років тому +1

    Great video

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому

      Thank you very much for your kind words, and for watching. I hope you will check out more of my be wrangling adventures on my channel and let me know what you think of them. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210
    @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 2 роки тому +1

    Fun!! so how do you know the old queen in the upper box?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  2 роки тому +1

      Experience has shown that 90% of the time, that is were she is. Those are pretty good odds. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
      Mr. Ed

    • @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210
      @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 2 роки тому

      @@JeffHorchoff gotcha!! you are a joy to watch!! thanks Mr. Ed.

  • @cliveharrison733
    @cliveharrison733 5 років тому +1

    Hi Jeff love the vids and I'm going to try this method here in England but was wondering if the queen normally works the top box how do you know there will be eggs in the bottom box?
    Thanks
    Clive

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому +1

      The queen will migrate between the boxes, and with almost a 98% success rate of creating an emergency in the lower box, the method really works. I just completed a complete series, 3 videos, on the process. If you check them out, they may be of benefit to you. Thanks for watching. God's peace Clive.
      Mr. Ed

    • @cliveharrison733
      @cliveharrison733 5 років тому +1

      Jeff Horchoff Bees thanks Jeff the one thing you don't cover is when you add the second brood box after the split, after the supers are lifted or before?
      Thanks
      Clive

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому +1

      The second boxes are added as soon as the boxes are split . God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @julianlainejr.6903
    @julianlainejr.6903 7 років тому

    Jeff glad my workshops have help you develop into a fine beekeeper.The system you show is Julian Laine Jr.'s 7 day emergency cell system. Just one part of River Regions Beekeeper's Workshops

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      Well folks, I never expected to see my mentor's name in the comment section, but here it is. It is correct, the method I use to make splits was taught to me and developed by Julian Laine Jr. This is the system that he has developed over the years that has proven most effective for the limited amount of energy exerted by the bee keeper to produce healthy splits. The entire system consists of hive rotations in mid January, insertion of double screen dividing boards in mid March, 7 to 10 days after that, queen cell evaluations are done ( that will be the next video ) and then finally, removing the old queen in her new hive from the original hive stand to a new location. Simple and effective, the entire procedure is taught by Julian in his monthly meetings of the River Region Beekeeper's Workshop, and it truly is a workshop. Julian answers questions for the first hour, and then does a slide show presentation covering a litany of topics. There are over 70 members in the club, and we are blessed to have Julian as the leader. Thanks for all your patience with us new bees Julian. Mr. Ed

  • @emilybradford1870
    @emilybradford1870 5 років тому +1

    Hello.
    It's Emily form Australia!!!
    Love your videos! How do you know that your queen will be in the top box when you do this sort of split????
    Cheers
    EM

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому

      Hello Emily from Australia! So glad you enjoy watching my bee wrangling adventures, thanks so much for taking the time to watch. I have found that at least 95% of the time, the queen is in the top box. Based on that finding, I just make the assumption. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @terrysaunders8948
    @terrysaunders8948 7 років тому

    nice mr ed

  • @alanwong8481
    @alanwong8481 6 років тому +1

    You mentioned you plan to put the top super on its own stand in 7 days. Why not do it immediately and forego the need of a screen? (artificial swarm) What's the advantage of putting them on top of the old spot?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому

      This method works very well when you are dealing with just a few hives, as it allows the bee keeper the freedom of choosing queen cells that are to their liking. But when you have 50 or more hives, I will do the walk away splits from now on. This way is to much work for me anymore. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @TacoRios
    @TacoRios 5 років тому +1

    I've used queen excluders before when doing vertical splits. Where can I get a board like this? Thanks and God Bless!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому +1

      Thank you for your blessing, it is greatly appreciated. I'm pretty certain that Mann Lake Bee Supplies sell the double screened dividing board. I do not know what they cost. Best wishes on successful hive splits. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @chancetolbert4852
    @chancetolbert4852 6 років тому +1

    What do you do after giving the bottom box enough time to requeen? Do you move one of the boxes away to other yards?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому

      I move the top box off, and leave the bottom box where it sits. that's the way I so my splits. God's peace Barton.
      Mr. Ed

    • @chancetolbert4852
      @chancetolbert4852 6 років тому +1

      @@JeffHorchoff do you just move it to the same yard? Or move it a couple miles away as some bee keepers suggests?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому +1

      I keep them in the same yard as I want the field bees to return to the original hive. It's a way of stealing bees from the old queen to discourage her from swarming later on. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @omarboueddine9316
    @omarboueddine9316 5 років тому +1

    hi Mr. Edd, how do you doing? can I do a vertical split without double screen and directly put the top box near the other one with the entrance to the other side?
    thank's for help

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому

      The double screened dividing board needs to be used when doing a vertical split. Without it, the split can not be made. You can do as you suggest, but the placing of the entrance to the rear is not necessary if you do a walk away split. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

    • @omarboueddine9316
      @omarboueddine9316 5 років тому +1

      @@JeffHorchoff thank's a lot!!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому

      You'r welcome! looking forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
    @cluelessbeekeeping1322 7 років тому +1

    I'm trying to find one video you made, I can't remember the title, but it involved some ~method to make splits or perhaps it was to make queen cells. I had a hard time understanding it, does any of this ring a bell? It was some slightly complicated method. Any help would bee appreciated. Thanks!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +1

      I am not sure which video you are talking about. I do vertical splits or 50/50 splits, and I allow the bees to produce their own queen. I then go back into the hive and remove inferior queen cells and all swarm cells. Then I move the box that has the old queen off the original hive. That's the method I do, in a nutshell. I will be making videos on every aspect of how I split my hives starting with the rotations which I just finished. Around mid March, I put the double screened dividing boards in, and then about 3 weeks later, after the evaluations, I remove the box containing old queen. Stay tuned for the entire series....after you catch up on the video I posted last Friday on rotations. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

    • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
      @cluelessbeekeeping1322 7 років тому

      I think I found what I was looking for (but can't find your video), I think it's the cloake board method.
      Just for kicks, I think I'm going to try a few grafts... I don't know what I'll do with the queens now, I don't have enough bees to make any splits...I guess it's what board beekeepers do (me in this case). Thanks for the fast reply! I love your videos!

  • @anjelcruzquelindacancionpa2837
    @anjelcruzquelindacancionpa2837 6 років тому +1

    Linda colmena amigo saludos

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому

      Son algunas colmenas de buen aspecto seguro. En tan solo unas 6 semanas, volveré a dividir nuestras colmenas, estad atentos. gracias por ver. La paz de dios
      Sr. Ed

  • @tstran02
    @tstran02 7 років тому

    Please update us on this method!

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому +2

      Next Saturday I will be doing the evaluations of the queen cells, stay tuned. Thanks for watching. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @davemaloneyvideos
    @davemaloneyvideos 7 років тому

    You used the double screen AND newspaper. I have done it with the screen. And I have done it with newspaper. But not with both. Do you find you get better results when you use both?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      Since that is the way I have always done it, I could not answer. I know it has always worked for me, so, that's how I do it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your pictures are coming up, stay tuned. Thanks for watching Dave. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @bub1683
    @bub1683 5 років тому +1

    Now i got it.

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  5 років тому

      GREAT! Make sure you check out tomorrows video, it's about emergency cell development. God's peace Bub.
      Mr. Ed

  • @davidprice9758
    @davidprice9758 7 років тому

    Cool as always :)

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      Where have you been David? Hope all is well. Thanks for keeping tabs on me. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed

    • @davidprice9758
      @davidprice9758 7 років тому

      Jeff Horchoff Did I not comment on the last one hmm my bad Mr. Ed I thought that was great too. I was wonderng about what a vertical split was when I 1st noticed you had made a video. You explained it well and look forward to seeing the progress on this hive and how the split actually goes. The number of Queen cells they produce etc. I am more of a spiritual person than any one religion but peace to you as well :)

  • @burtonsbeefarm3834
    @burtonsbeefarm3834 7 років тому

    Mr. Ed, Did you reverse the brood boxes in preparation for this split?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      I did that on January 15th, here's the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/ik4Sm_0mvds/v-deo.html
      Thanks for watching. God's peace. Mr. Ed

    • @burtonsbeefarm3834
      @burtonsbeefarm3834 7 років тому

      Thank you! Sir

  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 7 років тому

    Flowers are blooming and bees are busy. Meanwhile, I'm expecting a blizzard in 2 days.
    (Hope your friend (Steve?) whose house burned, is doing okay.)

  • @dupboyzvlogz2607
    @dupboyzvlogz2607 7 років тому

    Are you from Louisana?

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      Born and raised in New Orleans, and now live 40 miles north of it. Thanks for watching. God's peace. Mr. Ed

    • @dupboyzvlogz2607
      @dupboyzvlogz2607 7 років тому

      I'm in Lafayette: ) Thanks for making these video's: ) and putting God in the video

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      There are a bunch of seminarians from Lafayette that attend the seminary college at the abbey, you may know a few of them. If you ever get down this way, I'd be more than happy to show you around the be yards. Mr. Ed

    • @dupboyzvlogz2607
      @dupboyzvlogz2607 7 років тому

      That's a deal I do need to learn how to overcome my fears of bees so this would be a blessing : )

  • @baddestbees5924
    @baddestbees5924 6 років тому +1

    I have just put a queen excluder between 2 and come back and see which one has eggs to know which box has the Queen and then you could move a box and let the foragers come back with the queen cells I understand you didn't 50/50 but I don't care for it although I do like your videos I'm not bashing you or at least I don't mean to if I sound like I am

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому

      One of my favorite parts of keeping bees is the many different ways of doing something to accomplish the same desired results. There are literally a dozen or more different ways of making a split, and just like in anything else with bee keeping, a bee keeper needs to find what works best for them, develop the technique, and them use it. I am very happy that you are satisfied with your method, and I did not intrepid your comment in a mean fashion at all. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

    • @baddestbees5924
      @baddestbees5924 6 років тому +1

      Jeff Horchoff hey man I've learned a lot from you and rooster and got many laughs along the way too thank you and God bless

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  6 років тому

      @@baddestbees5924 Thank you for your blessing, and I'm more than happy to share what little bit of bee keeping knowledge I have with every one. God's peace.
      Mr. Ed

  • @OkieRob
    @OkieRob 7 років тому

    did you find the intro I did for you

  • @novarandy79
    @novarandy79 7 років тому

    your way seems easier lnstead of golng thru taklng out frames keep us lnformed.

    • @JeffHorchoff
      @JeffHorchoff  7 років тому

      Will do. Thanks for watching. God's peace. Mr. Ed

  • @xshanghu
    @xshanghu 6 років тому +1

    Yo

  • @426superbee4
    @426superbee4 7 років тому

    i'am trying long boxes, make 3 of em 4 footers, There so many ways to work long boxes, can open a side and set em side by side or stack honey super if you want, some make double deeps frame out of em. But if it gets gummed up be to hard to pull the double deep frames out, that 50 lbs of honey on 1 double deep frame. idk if i want a hug colony of bees, too hard to work. 150k of bees is plenty for a hive. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE WITH THAT MANY BEES FLYING AROUND ME. HE HEE Yes every thing got a built in SHB trap on the bottom here!!! Its a must have it you want bees! They Kill SHB, WAX MOTHS, and MITES. and helps Repeal Ants coming in from the bottom. i'am worry free of that crap. JUST KEEP A EYE ON ANTS I invented it! Yes there is a patton on it... Tired of lifting 250 lbs boxes .. I Need to start thinking of my back. I much rather lift a 25 lb frame of honey....JUST SOME IN PUT thx for the video

  • @regiaquiarato7898
    @regiaquiarato7898 2 роки тому

    542👍🏻🐝🇧🇷

  • @jljjoubert3611
    @jljjoubert3611 9 місяців тому

    Goodday reader. This split here is not a vertical split but a horizontal split.
    Vertical definition "What is a vertical line?
    A vertical line is always a line that runs from top to bottom, or, from bottom to top.
    Standing lines are also a type of vertical line that runs vertically. Cobus🐳