@@scoa nah man you got something with the History channel style videos. Very informative and well executed. You can tell that work went into this. I’m gonna binge the rest of your videos soon!
To me it just depends on whether the card the sticker is on is numbered or not. If it is, thats still a solid investment in my book - obviously depending on who the player is.
Of course in most of situation on card auto is better than sticker auto, but the most important thing is which player auto. I think Brady, Kobe sticker auto is still have huge demand.
So ik sticker autos arent what ppl really want but what do u think ppl would prefer more, rookie card sticker auto outof a pack pull or an rookie card in person auto authenticated in a bgs psa or sgc slab?
Really depends on the person. Some people love in-person autos, but some people only love them for their collection if they were able to get them in-person auto'd themselves (like as a nice memory/keepsake), and others don't like in-person autos at all. There's such a wide range of perspectives on them. I have a feeling though, in general, people prefer autos that can be pulled from packs more than autos that were signed in-person. Seems like more people lean that way.
My PC is the best pack pulled auto / patch auto I can find of bulls championship team players, 2016 cubs players, 84 cubs, etc. first I look for licensed, on card, patch autos in cubs or bulls uniforms . If they don’t exist, I drop the patch requirement. If no on card exist that goes next, finally I’ll drop the team jersey requirement as a last ditch. Last, I’ll drop the licensed and go”signed” with auth grade but that’s a bummer. Now if I got it signed myself, I’d be thrilled with it. But I pass by sticker auto after sticker auto on the modern. I really hate them. What I hate most though is unlicensed “pajama” cards. I’d almost rather take some guys word that he got the card signed in person that have no logos on uniform or have all poses from behind. I just can’t.
I pulled a Jamaar Chase Score auto RC redemption in his rookie season. I waited 2 years to get it, but I finally did. The reason it took so long is bc apparently Chase refused to sign them on stickers and would only do "on card" autographs, so it took a lot longer to get them out. So I got mine as an actual on card auto, but every other players in that set is on a sticker, do you think that will make a big difference in its value in the future?
I don't know about value difference or not. Possibly. Especially if It means he has less autos in general. But at the same time, don't necessarily know what the long term demand of his autos will really be. But I think that is really cool in any scenario. Makes me want to get a Jamaar Chase auto myself.
@@scoa I'm hoping he will be a hof'er and it's def possible being tied to Joe Burrow for his young career. He is now on pace to break a lot of records, but I do not think anyone will ever break Jerry Rice's records. I don't think they'll ever be broken.
What’s blows my mind is Justin Herbert on card auto graded BGS 10 goes for way cheaper then a sticker auto that’s a BGS 10, is there really a real difference in Value ? I would think a on card auto will be more valuable since the player actually touched the card himself then panini they having them sign a bunch of stickers and panini placing them themselves
I think it's all about supply and demand. Tons more supply of sticker autos. They are really quite common now. Much less supply of on card. And the demand is also much higher among collectors for on card. Significantly less supply, plus higher demand equals quite a lot more value on the card market in most cases.
Wait, an on card is going for less? That doesn't seem right. Unless the on card is a super cheap brand or something. Do you have links to the cards you are referring to?
@@scoa well it’s a aftermarket on card auto , it’s a 2020 select RC on card authenticated by BGS and got a 10 on the auto , I already verified it on BGS site, I get it’s maybe because it’s a on card auto on a base silver select RC
I agree to a point, but in the end, an auto is an auto. If the signature looks good, I'm interested. Plus it's a more affordable way for collectors to get autographs of superstars. We can't all afford on card autos 🤷♂️
What you say is kinda why I think they should load up sticker autos in lower end products. Fill up those Chronicles and Hoops boxes with sticker autos (with maybe a very rare on card auto). But I think mid tier to high end product should keep sticker autos out of the product.
@@scoaI think it’s crazy that a $600 box of cards contains two sticker autos. Beautiful card, amazing patch, and a sticker! That said it’s better when they hide the sticker in a frame or border. But when it stands out I can’t have it
I'd say depends on context. I think some of the cut autos from long ago history are fascinating. Not like you can get Abraham Lincoln to give you an on card autograph. If it was from some modern player or someone still alive I would find it annoying.
I have upgraded my collection and been chasing autos lately. I am a 90's collect, obviously from my channel, and it started with Ewing which he had a sweet one from Hoops I believe 91 or 92. Then noticed another card auto of a 90's start from ultra modern cards. I did notice a big difference which was the sticker auto. TBH, I would prefer on card auto for the particular reason you stated on your video. Ultimately though, I am not looking for autos as an investment. It is the "cool" factor I am chasing. Knowing I have autos of all these players I grew up with is very awesome to me. I am not chasing the newer players. I am a OG and having card autos like Oakley, LJ, Sprewell even Ricky Pierce is so nostalgic to me. I don't mind if it is a sticker. Hopefully I made sense here 😂
Yeah, I can understand that. Having an auto card of a player deep in nostalgia is awesome. I'd personally rather an on card even if just for personal connection, but a sticker would be better than nothing at all. My absolute favorite card is a Nick Van Exel in person auto that a the friend I most traded cards with as a kids got for me a couple years ago. Van Exel was my main PC player and my favorite player growing up, so that card is something really special to me.
@@scoa ahhh you see. You got me then. Of course I would love on card auto. Is a deal break, not really. But I would give more respect and value if I was looking at a on card versus a sticker auto when shopping around. I guess another dimension that comes is numbers also. I noticed the on card autos have a rare lower \# count. Not all but some.
@@Latinochino I agree with all that. If I'm getting an auto card for investment, 99% of the time I'll want on card. If it's to keep for myself, I may be okay with sticker, though even then I'd eventually want to level up to something on card. The sticker auto would be like a place holder.
You can literally peel a sticker and put it on an existing card. How is that harder than getting an almost perfect signature that would be authenticated? A sticker auto taken from another card would authenticate properly as well.
Off sticker autos are the worst, anyone with a big sig that needs to be unfurled (like David Robinson) just can't do it - plus those small stickers in large volumes encourages glorified initials as passing for autos these days (e.g. Saddiq Bey and Cam Reddish). Not to mention it;s easier to have soemone else sign for you (Luka's Mum is apparently pretty handy with a sharpie) and it also ruins the aesthetics of a card - sticker auto on acetate being the absolute worst. As I like to say, when autographs became an 'expactation' instaad of a 'congratulations' you coudl see where the hobby was headed... Interesting poll question, sticker auto vs in person auto.
💯 on everything there. I'd much rather autos in general were just more rare. The flood of autos makes them feel less special. And those terrible initial autos make it feel so empty. Combine a initial sticker auto with a patch that's not associated with any player or event, and you get something that feels so fake, trying to be something it isn't.
But being "real" isn't the only thing that effects demand. If for a PC, and you like the look of a card, cool. If for "investing", sticker autos make the supply increase a lot and also decrease the demand because of so many people not liking the look of sticker autos. Makes the value decrease. PC stuff, then no problem.
sticker auto's suck imo!!, paying 4000 dollars plus for a box of basketball cards just to get a load of bs sticker auto's seems wrong to me!?. people need to start boycotting higher end products that fob you off with stickers just to rake in more and more money!!....
I think collectors are becoming more clear about their dislike for sticker autos. I'm hoping that eventually if sticker autos are used, it's for lower end stuff. Getting a sticker auto on Hoops is expected, getting it on more expensive stuff feels wrong.
That's too bad. But not surprising at all. Quality control has never been the strong suit of Panini. My most annoying sticker autos are ones where the auto didn't fully fit in the sticker, so you have parts of some letters just not there.
@@KeyKiller74 I hope so too. Hard to say if they will. There are certain logistical things that'd be really hard for them to overcome, or they'd just need to have a lot less overall autograph cards in their products. Probably. So I have a feeling sticker autos will still be around.
I definitely agree. Especially when it's on high end products. If its on a Chronicles card, I'm not too bothered. My expectations are lower. But on National Treasures or some other super high end card, sticker autos bother me quite a bit.
I remember when a patch was a big deal. Now its a patch AND and auto and numbered AND on card. Don't forget, its gotta be GRADED!
@@caolanhogeweide6555 😆
By far one of the best sports card videos out there!!!! Keep going man!!! Ur channel is so dope!!!!
Thanks man! That's high praise. Appreciated. Glad you're feeling the channel.
@@scoa nah man you got something with the History channel style videos. Very informative and well executed. You can tell that work went into this. I’m gonna binge the rest of your videos soon!
Sticker autos are for my PC something I’ll pass down to my son I love the look of on card autos and they cost quite a penny to snatch some of them
To me it just depends on whether the card the sticker is on is numbered or not. If it is, thats still a solid investment in my book - obviously depending on who the player is.
Of course in most of situation on card auto is better than sticker auto, but the most important thing is which player auto. I think Brady, Kobe sticker auto is still have huge demand.
So ik sticker autos arent what ppl really want but what do u think ppl would prefer more, rookie card sticker auto outof a pack pull or an rookie card in person auto authenticated in a bgs psa or sgc slab?
Really depends on the person. Some people love in-person autos, but some people only love them for their collection if they were able to get them in-person auto'd themselves (like as a nice memory/keepsake), and others don't like in-person autos at all. There's such a wide range of perspectives on them. I have a feeling though, in general, people prefer autos that can be pulled from packs more than autos that were signed in-person. Seems like more people lean that way.
@@scoa Thank you alot for this input something I really wanted to know
My PC is the best pack pulled auto / patch auto I can find of bulls championship team players, 2016 cubs players, 84 cubs, etc. first I look for licensed, on card, patch autos in cubs or bulls uniforms . If they don’t exist, I drop the patch requirement. If no on card exist that goes next, finally I’ll drop the team jersey requirement as a last ditch. Last, I’ll drop the licensed and go”signed” with auth grade but that’s a bummer. Now if I got it signed myself, I’d be thrilled with it. But I pass by sticker auto after sticker auto on the modern. I really hate them. What I hate most though is unlicensed “pajama” cards. I’d almost rather take some guys word that he got the card signed in person that have no logos on uniform or have all poses from behind. I just can’t.
I pulled a Jamaar Chase Score auto RC redemption in his rookie season. I waited 2 years to get it, but I finally did. The reason it took so long is bc apparently Chase refused to sign them on stickers and would only do "on card" autographs, so it took a lot longer to get them out. So I got mine as an actual on card auto, but every other players in that set is on a sticker, do you think that will make a big difference in its value in the future?
I don't know about value difference or not. Possibly. Especially if It means he has less autos in general. But at the same time, don't necessarily know what the long term demand of his autos will really be. But I think that is really cool in any scenario. Makes me want to get a Jamaar Chase auto myself.
@@scoa I'm hoping he will be a hof'er and it's def possible being tied to Joe Burrow for his young career. He is now on pace to break a lot of records, but I do not think anyone will ever break Jerry Rice's records. I don't think they'll ever be broken.
Is it even live ink because ive looked and cant tell
I'm not quite sure what you are referring to
What’s blows my mind is Justin Herbert on card auto graded BGS 10 goes for way cheaper then a sticker auto that’s a BGS 10, is there really a real difference in Value ? I would think a on card auto will be more valuable since the player actually touched the card himself then panini they having them sign a bunch of stickers and panini placing them themselves
I think it's all about supply and demand. Tons more supply of sticker autos. They are really quite common now. Much less supply of on card. And the demand is also much higher among collectors for on card. Significantly less supply, plus higher demand equals quite a lot more value on the card market in most cases.
Oh wait. I misread what you said.
Wait, an on card is going for less? That doesn't seem right. Unless the on card is a super cheap brand or something. Do you have links to the cards you are referring to?
@@scoa well it’s a aftermarket on card auto , it’s a 2020 select RC on card authenticated by BGS and got a 10 on the auto , I already verified it on BGS site, I get it’s maybe because it’s a on card auto on a base silver select RC
@@scoa seen a couple going 350-600 on card BGS 10
I agree to a point, but in the end, an auto is an auto. If the signature looks good, I'm interested. Plus it's a more affordable way for collectors to get autographs of superstars. We can't all afford on card autos 🤷♂️
What you say is kinda why I think they should load up sticker autos in lower end products. Fill up those Chronicles and Hoops boxes with sticker autos (with maybe a very rare on card auto). But I think mid tier to high end product should keep sticker autos out of the product.
@@scoa so true. The companies are too greedy for that though. We as consumers have to be smarter, which is your main point 👉
@@scoaI think it’s crazy that a $600 box of cards contains two sticker autos. Beautiful card, amazing patch, and a sticker! That said it’s better when they hide the sticker in a frame or border. But when it stands out I can’t have it
What are your thoughts on cut autos
I'd say depends on context. I think some of the cut autos from long ago history are fascinating. Not like you can get Abraham Lincoln to give you an on card autograph. If it was from some modern player or someone still alive I would find it annoying.
I have upgraded my collection and been chasing autos lately. I am a 90's collect, obviously from my channel, and it started with Ewing which he had a sweet one from Hoops I believe 91 or 92. Then noticed another card auto of a 90's start from ultra modern cards. I did notice a big difference which was the sticker auto. TBH, I would prefer on card auto for the particular reason you stated on your video. Ultimately though, I am not looking for autos as an investment. It is the "cool" factor I am chasing. Knowing I have autos of all these players I grew up with is very awesome to me. I am not chasing the newer players. I am a OG and having card autos like Oakley, LJ, Sprewell even Ricky Pierce is so nostalgic to me. I don't mind if it is a sticker. Hopefully I made sense here 😂
Yeah, I can understand that. Having an auto card of a player deep in nostalgia is awesome. I'd personally rather an on card even if just for personal connection, but a sticker would be better than nothing at all. My absolute favorite card is a Nick Van Exel in person auto that a the friend I most traded cards with as a kids got for me a couple years ago. Van Exel was my main PC player and my favorite player growing up, so that card is something really special to me.
@@scoa ahhh you see. You got me then. Of course I would love on card auto. Is a deal break, not really. But I would give more respect and value if I was looking at a on card versus a sticker auto when shopping around. I guess another dimension that comes is numbers also. I noticed the on card autos have a rare lower \# count. Not all but some.
@@Latinochino I agree with all that. If I'm getting an auto card for investment, 99% of the time I'll want on card. If it's to keep for myself, I may be okay with sticker, though even then I'd eventually want to level up to something on card. The sticker auto would be like a place holder.
It's actually much easier to counterfit an on card auto than a sticker auto. Anyone can take a card and forge a signature.
You can literally peel a sticker and put it on an existing card. How is that harder than getting an almost perfect signature that would be authenticated? A sticker auto taken from another card would authenticate properly as well.
Off sticker autos are the worst, anyone with a big sig that needs to be unfurled (like David Robinson) just can't do it - plus those small stickers in large volumes encourages glorified initials as passing for autos these days (e.g. Saddiq Bey and Cam Reddish). Not to mention it;s easier to have soemone else sign for you (Luka's Mum is apparently pretty handy with a sharpie) and it also ruins the aesthetics of a card - sticker auto on acetate being the absolute worst. As I like to say, when autographs became an 'expactation' instaad of a 'congratulations' you coudl see where the hobby was headed... Interesting poll question, sticker auto vs in person auto.
💯 on everything there. I'd much rather autos in general were just more rare. The flood of autos makes them feel less special. And those terrible initial autos make it feel so empty. Combine a initial sticker auto with a patch that's not associated with any player or event, and you get something that feels so fake, trying to be something it isn't.
Hello great video! You should make a video about how autos fade over time. Cheers thanks
Glad you enjoyed the video! I'll look into that topic. Good idea!
at the end of the day sticker autographs are still real so you know
But being "real" isn't the only thing that effects demand. If for a PC, and you like the look of a card, cool. If for "investing", sticker autos make the supply increase a lot and also decrease the demand because of so many people not liking the look of sticker autos. Makes the value decrease. PC stuff, then no problem.
sticker auto's suck imo!!, paying 4000 dollars plus for a box of basketball cards just to get a load of bs sticker auto's seems wrong to me!?. people need to start boycotting higher end products that fob you off with stickers just to rake in more and more money!!....
I think collectors are becoming more clear about their dislike for sticker autos. I'm hoping that eventually if sticker autos are used, it's for lower end stuff. Getting a sticker auto on Hoops is expected, getting it on more expensive stuff feels wrong.
Fuck sticker autos I have a few of them & some of mine are placed crooked. 🤬
That's too bad. But not surprising at all. Quality control has never been the strong suit of Panini. My most annoying sticker autos are ones where the auto didn't fully fit in the sticker, so you have parts of some letters just not there.
@@scoa Hope Fanatics stops auto stickers when they have control soon. 🙏
@@KeyKiller74 I hope so too. Hard to say if they will. There are certain logistical things that'd be really hard for them to overcome, or they'd just need to have a lot less overall autograph cards in their products. Probably. So I have a feeling sticker autos will still be around.
I loathe sticker autos. In most cases, the sticker auto, sticks out like sore thumb, taking away from the aesthetic beauty of the card.
They really do stick out. I can't really think if any aesthetically nice looking sticker autos I've ever seen.
Buyback auto is the best sticker auto is not much valuable 😅
Definitely not a fan of sticker autos. It’s a lame approach. On card is best since the athlete interacted with the actual card.
I definitely agree. Especially when it's on high end products. If its on a Chronicles card, I'm not too bothered. My expectations are lower. But on National Treasures or some other super high end card, sticker autos bother me quite a bit.
Who cares
Clearly not you