How Bad is Standard Connectivity?
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2022
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Spotify will always auto-start when you open the car. You need to tap something else like bluetooth before you exit the car.
It automatically starts playing if you didn’t manually pause before you got out. Took me a while to figure that out 😅
Yes you are correct. Pausing the music before leaving the car will keep it paused when returning back to the vehicle
if you have a home charger and don't ever use supercharger to charge your car (which means you don't sit in your car waiting for charging), a phone holder beside the screen is much more useful than premium connectivity.
If you push the left scroll wheel before you exit the car the music would not come on when you enter.
This is exactly the question I was thinking about, thanks for the video!
Right after I got my car, I turned off the Premium Connectivity for a couple days. I wanted to experience it before I got used to the upgrade level. It was… ok.
For me (retired, living on a pension), the $10 is acceptable. It’s not $10 for streaming video, $10 for streaming music, $10 for Live View camera, and $10 for satellite maps. That would be a bigger pill (and bill) to swallow. It’s $10 for all that and more. Far cheaper than my cell phone plan. And it’s in my car. Which is pretty cool.
Standard is ok. If Tesla bumps up the price to $40+/month, I may give Premium up. In the meantime, I truly enjoy the perks Premium gives, and the looks and features is a great fit with the rest of the tech of the car.
4:10 "Takes live traffic into account".
I am so glad to hear that. I thought it didnt. That was my only reason to consider premiumC.
Thank you for that bit of info.
I just ran out of Premium Connectivity today. I was watching Sentry Mode, went away for a second and the next thing I knew it was gone. All the things you mentioned I felt similarly, too. I think I can live without the extra cost but it is nice to know I can always go back if I want.
I watched several videos on this topic and I appreciate your honesty and humor. I'm still trying to justify the money just to have the camera sensory. If they add a feature to control the garage, it would be a no brainer.
$10 here and there, it adds up! This is an honest review that frankly not many Tesla UA-camrs would care to review.
$600 for six years of connectivity is not that much when compared to the price of the car, and $10 is not much when compared to everyday purchases, like going to a restaurant to eat.
@@WanderlustWonderscape 100%. It is mind boggling people complaining about the cost of premium lol
@@WhatALoadOfTosca i swear lol u buy some mcdonalds and it would cost more than 10 and its Mcdonalds!!
The likely reason why you experienced delays in video playback over Bluetooth is Bluetooth is limited to 3 Mbps, but Netflix may end up streaming at rate on the order of 5 Mbps. The reality is Bluetooth may not achieve that data rate.
The event notification on Sentry Mode sounds like a missed opportunity for sure. But also sounds like a fix with a software update. Plenty of security cameras allow you to change the “stream and recording” or notifications for specific events (ie a person vs car vs animal)
Bluetooth delay is maybe based on the chip they use or the software. When I connect to my 2011 Corolla Bluetooth audio is synchronized with my phone video. However, on my newer 2014 odyssey the audio is delay by like 2seconds 😢. I try to find the answer to this in the internet but I could not get a definite answer.
There is a delay? I remember once I was waiting for a friend in their Tesla and they did not have premium connectivity so I was using Bluetooth and I did not noticed any noticeable delay
10:20 Normally the video is intentionally delayed to sync to the Bluetooth delay. This can be fixed by software. Normally the delay could be different for different devices so the delay is sliding scale setting so you can get it perfectly synced for your device
Great Video. Was wondering what the difference is. Seems like Bluetooth makes standard fine
Updated comment: I got my new model Y last month and my Premium connectivity trial just ran out. I find Standard Connectivity works very well for me and that is all I need. I just do short trips around my local town and just use the FM radio in the model Y while driving. I never used anything else daily during my 30 day trial - most of the stuff don't work while driving.
Yes, I did try everything and found I don't need it in my driving travels. I have most of this on my home PC which I use daily. The standard NAV maps are also good enough for my travels.
Note: I have the vehicle connected to my home WIFI so when I pull into my garage, I do get most the premium items if I want to look at something like You Tube.
Yes I know I could use my cell phone, but I do not want to. I would not use the premium stuff anyway in the car and i have personal reasons not to use the phone.
So i am saving 100 dollars a year for something else (accessories) by not duplicating what I have on my home PC which I have been using them for many years.
Take care.
The main thing is traffic, streaming, and safety score updates.
I used to set a Shortcut on my iPhone to open the Spotify app when connecting to a Bluetooth source. That way it automatically opens up Spotify when I got in the car!
I think of it this way: at least in europe you get a vehicle only free spotify account (which is worth 5 bucks to me). Live traffic/satellite view is worth like 3 bucks) and the remaing 2bucks is not worth to change subscription plans every other month, so i leave it in premium conn.
Great video!
Video title…The Day the Music Died
$99/year is a bargain for what you get with premium connectivity. It's worth it to me. I keep remembering how much I paid for nav on my 2014 ram 1500 and how little value it actually adds. 🙄
DREW ~ SOLUTION for your auto playing music. Pause the music when you park. Then get out of the car. When you next get back in the car, the music will still remain paused. It’s just giving you what you had when you left the car.
A Visible line might be a good option for the unlimited hotspot if you have no issues being throttled to 5 MBPS. The cheapest plan is $30 with the taxed and fees included in the price and $45 with taxes and fees included if you want a Play More or Do More experience with 50 GB of premium data.
I think the car saves the state it was in when you got out. When I exit my car with music playing, it resumes when I get back to the car. If the music isn’t playing when I exit, it’s silent when I re-enter the car.
I pay the 99 per year. You are right that monthly memberships start adding up. UA-cam TV, UA-cam Premium, Netflix, Amazon Music, adds up to around 150 per month on my budget. I think the 99 per year Tesla charges is completely worth it though.
hahaha I did the same but instead of the hotspot function from phone. I manage to use a mod ATT hotspot with my free line from T-Mobile and plug in the car. The only downsize is when it came to lower SOC, wifi will disconnect and will need to manually turn on wifi next time. But I think as long as the car not drop to like 20% the hotspot will continue to connect.
I am awaiting delivery on my Model Y Long Range and pretty sure I will keep the Premium Connectivity. My son has the Model 3 and I have some experience using it. I understand that $10 a month can add up when you have a fixed income, but I think it's a great value. I will go with the Monthly subscription which gives me the option to cancel anytime.
We have a cheap prepaid mobile plan from Verizon (25/month + tax) with only 5 GB of monthly data, so we like using Premium Connectivity for audio steaming in the Tesla - it works out to just $8.25/month paid annually and beats using up the mobile data.
Love your honesty! Totally agree..too many subscriptions already and they add up! What would be nice is.. if the premium connectivity came with subscriptions to Netflix and Spotify hahaa, but yeah no. Already too many things that we subscribe to, and some we may not even use daily, but sometimes too lazy or forget to cancel. Ohh and totes agree on that music playing automatically…sorta annoying and wished there was a feature to turn that off. Thanks for sharing! Glad to have found your page. Today my premium connectivity expired..and was contemplating on re-subscribing, but with your insights, I’ll do fine without.
Thanks for the reminder, I forgot that I set my premium connectivity should automatically renew end of next month. Doing Rideshare on weekends makes premium connectivity worth it. Also all our long trips 4 times a year also adds a benefit. You also lose traffic data with standard connectivity.
@@diniitotoom2526 unfortunately no, Live Traffic is a Premium Connectivity feature. Or at least that was the case few years back when there was issue with AT&T in Nashville area that caused a lose of Cell Data service for about a month. I was able to use my cell Hot Spot for the mapping lookup to work but it didn’t have Live Traffic Data.
Try doing the scroll wheel reset to fix the Bluetooth latency issue. I think that did it for me. The lag only happens to me every 6-9 months or so. Might be some codec or package transmission stuff that clogs up the BT connection. Just a guess anyways.
The soft reset you use on the car with both scroll wheels?
@@jackattack237 correct!
@@jaylam55 I tried it and it still doesn't work for me :( so I just stick with listening to my phone speaker and using incar spotfiy
I am aware that RVers are allowed to use T-Mobile home internet in their RVs so I see no reason that you could not use your gateway to provide connectivity either by using an inverter plugged into a car adapter or a portable power station with or without solar panels. Traveling with the home internet gateway could help conserve your hotspot data on your phone.
I'm taking delivery of a Tesla Y Dec/Jan and am really puzzled by people that need constant entertainment. I never listen to music or the radio in my car and I certainly wouldn't want to watch Netflix or play games.. People seem to be frightened of being alone with themselves.
I felt same as you when I got my MYP 6 months ago. Checking sentry mode every other hour, before going to bed😂 After about two weeks it was fine. Stopped constantly checking a car
It’s just that new car fever we all have. That’s why I’m watching what people think about this connectivity. But it looks like I cannot connect my laptop to get Wi-Fi signal to do some work while charging on the road. Elon is so stingy considering he has Starlink floating around with so many unused signal. He is stuffing his costumers out of a meager interest connectivity,
@@irandude1655I was thinking the same thing. I’ve got a model Y on order and was unsure if we could connect to the premium with our laptops but we can’t. I would gladly pay $20 to have that as an option but I guess they want us to get their StarLink or something. What a waste of technology. I would be able to work while traveling if that feature was available. Guess I’ll just have to use my phone hotspot for working.
You could set a shortcut to turn on hotspot when your car is connected to your phone, issue sorted
I have always had Bluetooth delay in my ICE cars when playing You Tube videos. It’s not just a Tesla issue.
Being smart with your money adds up. If someone asks too much for what they give you, don't pay them. It keeps things reasonable. Being willing to overpay for convenience too often... what do you think that does to the overall cost of things? Great mind set sir!
"“Really successful people say no to almost everything”" - Warren Buffett
Satellite maps and music streaming are extremely useful for delivery and rideshare drivers. Delivery jobs often penalize the drivers for each minute they take to complete a delivery. And rideshare drivers are often told to meet the riders at certain parts of apartment complexes, farms, etc. that are not always easy to see without Satellite maps. Also rideshare drivers can actually get bigger tips from streaming music through their Tesla without a call, the next rideshare request, app notification,etc disturbing the music.
When you are making money with the car, $10 is no brainer and a write off too
Frankly, the satellite maps are the only element of "Premium Connectivity" that would have any value for me. My primary device for connectivity is my iPhone. What I would like is the option to substitute Apple CarPlay for the Tesla connectivity features.
$10 month is cheap IMO for what you get. Well worth the money. Are you a Starbucks/coffee drinker? How much do you spend on that? One less a month covers Premium connectivity.
This!
But I think this guy is too cheap to buy coffee at Starbucks 😂
It is as simple as:
- you get connectivity paid by the company, fantastic
- you want multimedia: use your phone's hot-spot (I have around 100 GB per month) or pay for it. 100€/ year seems perfectly acceptable.
The simple solution is to pause the music before exiting.
I will surely miss Apple Carplay from my Honda CR-V. Given how Tesla wants to make money out of this subscription, I believe there is no hope left for Android Auto or Apple Carplay coming to any Teslas 😥. Android Auto or Apple Carplay will surely make this premium connectivity almost useless.
It's worth every penny.
So if you're on an Android, specifically a Samsung phone, you can use bixby's routines to automatically turn on your Wi-Fi hotspot when it sees the Bluetooth connection. The car will then connect via Wi-Fi to the phone's hotspot. Google and Siri don't seem to have the ability to automate this yet. But it's an easy way to just keep your connectivity and not pay extra.
If you have a rooted Android device you could probably do this with Tasker as well. Bixby is not a great voice assistant but the routines are much more robust than Google or Siri's.
of course, any iphone can do this natively
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl you apparently need a key press unless they've changed the software. With Bixby as soon as you connect to the cars Bluetooth you can automatically launch the network in the car will automatically connect to the hotspot. It literally is the difference of a key press from what I understand but I don't have an iPhone as I prefer Android.
My friend makes $600,000 a year but will not pay $5 to park
LOL. That's how the rich stays rich. Everything adds up over time.
I had a model 3 as a company car with no premium. I was fine with it. Got my new model y performance last weekend with the 30 day free premium and i can't go back. It's only 10 bucks a month which is nothing. The sentry live feed itself is worth the 10 bucks a month and i love that feature the other stuff are just a bonus. I will subscribe to the monthly premium shortly before my free trial ends. FSD is 99 bucks a month too. Insane value.
Frugal Tesla guy? It’s $10 a month. LOL
💯🙌🏽💥😂
That’s for the insight on the live feed and not being able to check the incidents.
Definitely a miss.
No latency with my phone on Bluetooth for my Tesla. One of the things that stood out to me because all other cars seem to have latency.
Latency can now be adjusted via your phone. Not if you got an iPhone though.
I need to play audio books over bluetooth and AM radio for sports. If I'm charging I'm probably eating or walking.
If you own a Tesla you probably have a phone with a wify hotspots.
Just enable the hotspot and connect the Tesla wify to the phone's wify hotspot.
If you do this you can download software updates and install them when you arrive at your destination.
Great for apartment dwellers who can't park close to their home wify.
Something about paying for features available on my phone just wouldnt sit right with me. Awhile back I installed an apple carplay head unit to my car and it obviously does everything my phone can do. Your essentially paying for another data connection when almost everyone in 2022 has an unlimited data plan. Glad the tesla can connect to mobile hotspot but still more of a hassle than just plugging in your phone and carplay just working
Love it, pay yearly fee and done
Off topic, but the Spotify app in the Tesla has some annoyances. You can't always see all albums for an artist nor your favorited songs for an artist. And as far as Bluetooth goes, you can't fast forward Podcasts. But I'll cope.
Standard Connectivity is great. My phone plan is $25/mo and I get unlimited hotspot data so that works great when I want to use Netflix or Apple Music 😊
I would love to see Skits but you as Elon 😂. Love u bro
Check out Visible Cell service. Runs on Verizon's network. Unlimited Hotspot data.. but throttled at about 5-8MB down. Plenty for Music or UA-cam. $30-45 per month depending on plan. Customer service.. SUCKS though. But the phone service itself works well, IF you have good Verizon coverage in your area...
Too bad Tesla does not have Android Auto or Apple Car play... then your phone could just mirror the Navigation, along with all the relevant info for traffic right to the Big screen.
Looked at a few teslas at a CarMax ... they had NINE of them. in every one of the cars.. the music would start as I got in.. Tune in Radio I think was the running app. Very annoying.
That latency is definitely the Tesla. Video uses wifi along with an audio channel. So they arrive at the same time to your phone. But the audio gets slowed down (audio or video gets slowed down) so they loose sync. Which is it? Does the audio lag the video? This should be adjustable in software on the Tesla and they should be doing this.
What’s really annoying is UA-camrs complaining about things that literally don’t matter. (Music playing when you start the car. Which has been a standard for all time in automobiles when you crank them on) I guess cars have become so good (Teslas in this case) That people have started to complain about non-issues. And the fact that they request features that are VERY unique to their tastes. What’s worse is Tesla making changes because of whiners then the rest of us having to accept said changes 🤦🏻♂️. What a time to be alive…
I have no delay when using Bluetooth via iPhone. I can watch any video in any app with perfect lip sync.
spotted RLM (5:00) !
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!
I use Premium connectivity for the audio streaming. For me that one feature alone is worth the price.
You are not paying for audio streaming, you are paying for internet connectivity. You paid separately for Spotify or Apple Music
Don’t you get a year of premium connectivity? Did it change recently?
Yes its just a month now !
The one time I comment before finishing the video. Doesn’t surprise me considering they also killed off referral links
@@TailosiveEV Elon's tactics are just like Apple's. Gets you hooked and then Nickel and diming you to death.
I may only get premium for live camera view because I rent my car. Other than that, you don't need premium to play music; just connect it with your bluetooth. Live traffic data is only a visual thing, the car will always take you the best way. If you want to use the car apps like UA-cam while charging you can connect your hotspot.
If the Tesla Premium Connectivity included turning the car into a WIFI hotspot then it might be worth looking into since a WIFI hotspot for $10 is too good of a deal to pass up. The car might lack the hardware to have in car WIFI.
The Honda CRV Hybrid has a Wi-Fi connectivity. And Honda doesn’t even have Starlink Satellites floating around and Elon has it but won’t even give his costumers that.
This is exactly my thought! I would gladly pay $20 for WiFi connectivity for this!
Not related to premium but Tesla will absolutely route you into a traffic jam. I swear it prioritizes the most efficient route. This is primarily known with owners that's why alternative routes in the last upgrade was such a big deal as well as why people ask for car play. The routing for big cities is very hit or miss.
Before i bought my TM3LR i used to have a Honda e, when i tried watching yt videos on my phone in that car i got the same latency you are talking about. So it is not only Tesla
Bro is there a reason why your on left side seat and recording lately all videos😂. Just curious 🤔🤔. Good info btw.
Got cha. That make sense,Didn’t think about laptop😅. Thanks for sharing all the videos and knowledge tips. Always helpful.
Paying a ton for a Tesla that doesn't include most of the Premium Connectivity features as standard? That's straight up bullshit ! Like Elon Musk doesn't have enough money already.
Drew, 11:05, “I can’t believe you won’t spend $100 a year after spending so much on the car.” After what I spent on 2nd mS, that price is insignificant.
I also pay about $6/mo for Sirius radio because it offers news I want to hear. Financial status is a factor, age too. I’m as old as your parents. Life is too short. Wifey loves EV acceleration so has a Lucid on order. Hopefully early 2024 my Aptera will arrive.
His viewers paid for the car, patron and whatnot.
I'm like your sir. Got my MYP a couple months ago. Now waiting for my AWD 400 mile, full solar packaged Aptera. Life is short and I have never seen a Hearst pulling a U-Haul trailer. Enjoy the decline brother. We are not fortunate. We earned and deserve everything we have. And in retrospect, it wasn't that hard or complicated. Just followed some rules. Ok! I'm waiting for the comment. "OK Boomer!" I am guilty as charged.
@@robertscott2269yeah that’s what a lot of these “influencers” do. They try to get rich by not working and doing UA-cam then they buy things they couldn’t otherwise afford with other peoples money. Kinda smart but kinda corny. It’s the UA-cam income generation. Then complain about everything that doesn’t really matter. You can take them out of the ghetto but you can take the ghetto out of them. Replace ghetto with cheap 😂
I have heard that the delay is for safety reasons: they don’t want drivers watching movies while the car is on drive.
I've had 2 months on standard connectivity it works actually really well. I pop my phone on hotspot when I want to listen to music or watch Netflix or UA-cam.
I'm glad you did this video I've been going through the same thought process 😅👍
Any thoughts on adding an ethernet port to the charging cable and the car, to offer internet that way?
@@TailosiveEV I guess it depends on what your needs are, wifi never seems to work well for me. But I guess im in a tiny minority that preferes the benefits of cables more than the drawbacks annoy me. lol
I've had my Tesla for 9 months. 8 of those months without Premium Connectivity. It's fine.
I don't like how you worded that about tesla saying streaming stop because tesla wanted more money.. no streaming stopped as it should because you didn't pay the renewal fee for your subscription
100 bucks for me isn’t a lot. I want to be able to watch UA-cam and Netflix while supercharging. I picked up my RWD yesterday. I love it so far.
And your phone doesn't work?
@@Sylvan_dB I would rather use the cars screen and speakers.
@@J.0.E. hes bot sentient
I agree with this, we spend 45k on a car. I’m sure you could swing a hundred bucks. What’s that a quarter of a percent of the car 😂
I've never understood why people wouldn't have premium. $100 over the price of a $50000 car lol. Why wouldn't you have it?!
$5 here, $10 there, next thing you know you have quite a bit of money just vanishing each month and nothing to show for it. I'm so cheap that I will refuse to pay for standard connectivity. So this will be fun.
It's OK, I use my car as "a car" and not a gaming machine, streaming machine, or anything else. It's job is to get me as efficiently, cheaply, effortlessly, with as little hassle or bother as possible from place to place when I need it.
I always wanted to meet a person like you. Finally found 1! 😂
I drive over 500 miles per week so I justify premium connectivity for ease of playing spotify using the voice assistant, and for the live traffic visualization.
What year is your car, how many miles on it now and how is the range? I’m currently buying a Tesla but am always concerned about this. Also, do you use a lot of superchargers or mainly charging at home?
@@georgevigil7001 I will update my statement and say now that I don't drive so much, I haven't subscribed to Premium in a while and have save $60. You just get used to talking to siri and connecting to bluettoth. I have an '18 3 LRAWD with about 100k miles. 11% degradation. The big thing is charge speed not range--mine charges at 258KW peak. Home charging mostly
I appreciate the "take care" sign off at the end lol.
I Always park far away from where I need to go, just incase. I don't Drive a Tesla but I already have to many cart dings on my care thanks to people not putting there carts back correctly. so now for sure when I Buy a Tesla I'm definitly babying that car.
and I'm cheap to in a way the only subscribtion I pay for is the 99 cent 50 GB I cloud storage
We are paying
Thinking about dropping premium connectivity not because of the $10/ month but for bugs making Spotify endless loop which forces you to do soft reboot or log out/in.
The issue is not being able to use your phone's hotspot to get data on your tesla when not at home. That should be allowed
@@TailosiveEV didn't work for me. I'm in Canada using Rogers. Wifi name doesn't show up. I'll try resetting the vehicle
you are exactly like me. love it. why pay!!
I would pay even $20 monthly if I could connect/use the connectivity as a wifi hotspot for my laptop. Sadly they don’t have this. Don’t care much about the other features in premium since the phone does a lot of that already.
BT delay also exists in other cars 🙄
$99/year is a super bargain
Who else thinks Drew is the most handsome Tesla UA-camr?
I think it's very funny how people balk at paying $10/mo for the connectivity, after paying $50+k.
Same here 😂 Like WITAF! Cheap people buying expensive things just does not make sense. Like having an iPhone with no internet 😂What’s the point? Might as well get a Nokia old school hahaha
Standart works fine 😊 connect WiFi as hotspot on phone. Premium - make E rich again😂
I would never not have this. Why buy a great car, and not get the full benefits for so little? - just pay up and be happy.
@@TailosiveEV Why buy such an expensive car, when a cheaper one is available. It's all about priority. I think that 10$ for a feature set, which gives the car even more value, is worth it.
I’ve noticed that some of the folks who have premium connectivity disparage those who don’t, but those who don’t have premium connectivity don’t disparage those who do. ✌️
After reading through many comments here I found it’s because it’s an EXPENSIVE car with LOTS of tech. So it’s odd to hear so many people being cheap when they buy a fancy car. I guess it would be like having an iPhone with no internet. Yeah you can make calls and texts but the rest of the features wouldn’t work.
TMobile gives me 50 gig of hotspot a month with my plan. im gonna test it after Premium runs out and see how much the Tesla eats from the 50 gig in a month
for now spend the $10 a month and get fun accessories.. then when you get tired of buying accessories... think about saving $10/month as discount when it is time to buy new tires...
Talked about means your wife talked and you listened.
Heh, one of the reasons I haven't bought a new Tesla is because of premium connectivity. My old 3 has it for life. Not like I use premium connectivity features all that much, but it's nice to have and also nice to not have to pay any subscriptions on my car, which I'm pretty against. Data might be an exclusion to that but still feels gross a bit
You haven't bought a new Tesla because you don't want to spend $10 a month?
I wish Tesla adds apple airplay to reduce latency and improve sound quality. Connecting the hotspot to the car is a very manual process because you have to toggle hotspot on iphone to connect. Internet via usb would be great.
Bmw is £10 sterling in the uk, dosent give you anything near what tesla gives you.
Those of you that want Premium-Conn and swear you cant find the money, just eliminate 2 Starbucks $40 dollar a gallon drinks this month and, there you go.