they do mature considerably faster. The problem is most women don't ever really mature fully. they're children. To a degree. This is why women don't really like working for other women.
I find the concept of "maturity" so fascinating in the modern era. I know women in their 40s and 50s that chase bad boys, spend all day on their phone, blow their money on nonsense, obsess over fashion, etc, etc. How is that really much different then a woman in their 20s?
“I’ll never do my partner’s laundry.” Yea, she’s real mature. She’s just like any other 22 yr old woman who babbles like they’re saying something profound but really knows nothing about how the world works.
I can't believe no one's replied to this yet. I clean and pick up trash for a living (among other things) But apparently being a simple homemaker, is just plain beneath these "women". I don't know what maturity she claims to have.
@@cameronreeves481 That’s bc Feminism influences women to be more like men. For ex: have sex with as many men as you want, be a boss, make lots of money, get sleeve tattoos, be loud & strong, be independent, etc. If a woman has all these manly attributes then it’s like dating a man and what real man wants to date a man? There’s nothing soft or nurturing about any of this, which is what real men are attracted to.
Gen Z girls complaining about Gen Z guys knowing that they're the same level of immaturity is comedy gold. "im mature for my age" said every immature person ever
Meanwhile shes in her prime years of female life and spending it getting tattoos and posting half naked pictures on instagram So much for mature. Just another 304 who will be used up.
Yeah, that's something a parent says about their pre-pubescent child, not what an adult says in reference to themselves. Imagine a grown man saying it? In a job interview or something? Ha.
“I just can’t be bothered to defend her. I definitely could never see myself pay for food for her, I just could not. I just could not see myself cooking for her, not at all. She can cook for herself.” I literally could not see myself fix anything in the house for her, I don’t do that, if she needs her tire changed I’ll tell her to do it her self, or if she needs someone to pick up something heavy, I’ll tell her to call her dad.” That’s literally what she sounds like if she were a GUY.
“Then hire a maid” …… “Then hire a bodyguard” “Then hire a mechanic” “Then hire a personal driver” “Then hire a lawn care guy” “Then hire a male pro worker” Seems kinda silly doesn’t it?
Truly, it is only SMART to split up duties. In the city, you don't NEED one sex to do one thing and one to do the other. My dad raised the corn and peas and beans. My mom and a little me canned and froze them. But mom and I picked the berries and made jelly and jam. (Dad wasn't picking any berries. He'd mow the lawn 2 to 3X a week. We weren't close. ) It doesn't matter WHO, but it's important THAT it get done and there's ownership, but only IF that works for your house. Somebody has to do the work.
@@noahambrose446 An immature 22 yo girl that thinks doing laundry is something only to be done for their mother. Chris didn't even try to challenge her on that. Why? I'd like to know why she believes it's something she shouldn't have to do. Good for her that she has some money and can afford a maid, but not everyone can, and women not as financially affluent as her look at her and go: "Oh, so I should never have to do that either.". The fact she didn't even factor that in at all, and Chris didn't challenge her on that at all, is appalling. I do it, all the damn time, pick up the clothes, chuck them in a dirty clothes bin, sort by color, put in washing machine on washing day, turn on, wait for an hour or 2, put in dryer, wait for an hour or 2, fold, put in closet, done. You can even go to the damn gym in between, zero effort.
If you can't be bothered to do menial tasks for someone you love then what are you willing to do? Relationships aren't about serving one person or another but loving and supporting each other through life. It is the small acts of kindness we do onto others everyday that truly shows our love for one another.
People want the cake without baking it first, why do all of these gen z women feel entitled to a relationship to a marriage when they offer nothing but their body and to grace you with their presence it's ridiculous they don't sacrifice a goddamn thing.
LMFAO. We really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I like Chris as an interviewer, but for the love of God, please find someone that actually has something valuable to say.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644She doesn’t do very well to speak her thoughts in a long form conversation it seems. Most of her appearances are short form vlogs or social media snippets.
@@moisesjimenez4391 She will learn she is like 22 by her 25 she would be way smarter than the average guy(but that is normal for regular women) the average guy is really dumb
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644She says nothing of value. Being a young woman (or man) doesn’t give you some magical perspective. You actually have to have something interesting to say. I have nothing against Sara - she’s a funny young woman. But she produces Snapchat quality content on UA-cam. And you can tell throughout this entire clip (as well as the rest of the interview), that Chris has to carry the conversation on his back. I’ll go to Sara for laughs or her personality - not to hear her naive opinions about important social issues. Why Chris thought this would be an interesting interview is beyond me. He likely wanted to capitalize on the reach she has with a certain demographic.
3:52 Seriously. Why would anyone want you if you can't cook or clean? I'm a dude and I've been cleaning the house (including washing dishes by hand, taking out trash, cleaning the bathroom, vacuuming, cleaning up spills and messes, taking care of pets... etc., etc.) since I was 6, doing my own laundry since I was 12, working since I was 14, paying rent since I was 16 and cooking for myself since I left home and you can't see yourself doing someone else's laundry that you're being intimate with... Relationships aren't 50/50. They're 100/100. If you're both not willing to do what's needed when it's needed, you will fail. Good job 'practicing'... ?? How about just being responsible? Grow up.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644except she pretty much says this in the full interview. She complains about how guys are now but admits to not wanting to cook or clean
@@gm9460if you do your research you will know she can do that and talking personally about me I don't want to cook and clean, I understand her feelings about that. I would prefer paying someone else to do that for me.
People have completely lost the plot when it comes to relationships. It’s all about a relationship as a selfish endeavor “what’s in it for me?”. No wonder divorce rates are through the roof. If you approach a relationship entirely concerned with what you get out of it it’s bound to fail.
I mean from the guys perspective it's at least reasonable to be selfish given the bias in family court and the legal system as a whole that can have it's full wrath brought down upon them over a mere allegation with no evidence, besides men get most of the hate slung at them so them being bitter and selfish is entirely understandable
well, there's the dumbest thing I'll read all afternoon courtesy of @@sp-cn8pm . Listen to me fool: laundry is the most trivial & simplistic of favors you can do someone you love. If you won't do _that_ what will you do? Pathetic of her, pathetic of you not to understand. Geebus. She's as reciprocal as a mosquito.
@sp-cn8pm you'll get to a certain age that doing your whole families laundry isn't something you would really care about as something you would be adamant about not doing. You just don't care about little things like that. This is coming from a father. It's okay she feels that way and you do to right now, you probably won't after some point, not a big deal. It is a maturity thing but don't listen to this clown throwing shade at you and her.
My Pastor said, "Y'all ratchet inside, but want the perfect Christian partner that is honest, truthful, has the fruit of the spirit." I'm not making any insinuations, but there's a lot of blame on Gen Z men not being up to standard, while there being a lot of ratchet inside on this podcast - and I don't mean from Chris.
Alot of people find stereotypical gender roles very attractive/ sexy, think firefighters and nurses for example. Scale that down to home level and chopping wood and doing the ironing can also resonate.
@@LeahBreHappyI can do my own ironing but my wife always does it for me and I love her all the more for it because it's a chore I hate. She feels the same way when I take care of the woodburner, a chore I'm sure she could do but doesn't want to. It's to miss the point to say that because someone is capable of doing something then therefore they should have to do it.
@@LeahBreHappy It actually is immature and entitled. A man who says he wouldn't do his partner's laundry would also be immature and entitled. At some point you have to work together to find an agreeable division of labor. Or you can hire a maid, but that's certainly an entitled solution.
A more mature gen Z guy is going to see that she makes her way and gets attention through social media platforms for her looks and avoid the clear problems that will be associated by someone making their way through external validation as a lifestyle. If you want quiet family life, this isnt it, chief.
Yeah I’ve seen her videos complaining about being single on Instagram but I think she forgets that most guys don’t want to be socially overshadowed by their better half and simultaneously have their private life or romantic relationship broadcasted to the whole world. Most people regardless of gender or personality will be averse to this kind of lifestyle and out of pragmatism just not date someone in her situation.
I had no idea who this person was before this episode...man, do I miss those days lol. She has an arrogance that's hard to take. Gen Z men, don't worry if someone like this won't date you. You're probably a solid man if they won't.
When a modern woman says, "I'm mature for my age," it usually means she thinks doing basic grown-up things like paying your bills means they are mature.
Selfishness is the hallmark of the new generations. Never do they ask themselves "does this make OUR lives better?" Its only "why do I have to do it?" Cook for your significant other when you cook for yourself. Do their laundry when you do yours. Expect they do the same, because your in it together. Stop demanding all the damned time and treat each other like theres actual love there or leave and let them find someone who will
As a 21 y/o Zoomer male who lives with his parents and is still working on an engineering degree, there is literally no way any of us (average, Gen Z guys) can afford a house cook or a maid. You'll only find that in the people who got lucky or were born into a wealthy family. Her description of Zoomer men kind of fits me, and that's part of why I don't plan on dating in the near future. Also, from what I can tell, she's one of those lucky people that I was talking about. She's a fitness influencer. Of course, she's not going to want to date someone like me.
Until she’s 32 and been ran through over 100 times. Men gain value as they age and women lose it, us normies just gotta play the long game and just do whatever we love to do in the meantime.
My step sister turned 16 in 2015 and she didn't like driving. Her mom pushed her to try and get her license. She was involved in an accident that totalled a 5 thousand dollar car and was uninjured. She said she'll never drive again. So it definitely wasn't covid for her.
One of the main issues I see in the relationships of my (Millennial) younger siblings (GenZ), is the mindset that a relationship needs to bring benefits for my persona. Like a business relationship, where knowing you brings benefits for my company/career, and therefore we keep in touch. They don`t get involved in a person and create a team together, but rather find a suitable addition to their persona and see the partner as an add-on. This mindset might keep you for very long invulnerable and on your feet, but will never open up the door to a true engaging partnership.
Oh good luck lady. I fix my girlfriends car, i cook her dinner a bunch, she does 90% of the laundry and generally manage social events. The idea of marriage and parnership in general is to diversify your roles however you want to be overall more efficient. Thats partnership.
That take on the cooking and cleaning thing was wild and I was not expecting Chris to agree with her. Cooking and cleaning is like bare essential tasks. No one is asking you to be their "maid" but ffs if you can't even do the bare minimum but you go on a rant about how guys need to grow up. Whew this conversation is hilarious.
@@seizetheday89I can't tell if he was necessarily agreeing with her or he was trying to push the conversation forward from that perspective instead of creating tension. I've been doing my own laundry and cooking since I was in my teens. It's super easy to do. There's a chance I might've misunderstood what was being said here but 3:50 the way she worded it makes it sound like she just simply DOES NOT do these things lol. Not even for herself. Then she talks about hiring maids and chefs so this reinforces my belief that she actually CAN'T (as she stated). She has got the most detached take on all of this lmao. And again this is after she went on a rant about guys need to grow up.
I thought it was very telling that her one exception to her "I won't ever do other people's laundry" rule was her mom and not, you know, her future kids. That really tells you where her mind is at. I mean sure, in some relationships people will do their own laundry, but as a parent you've always gotta do tons of laundry for your kids. But Ms Maturity clearly has no idea what it's really like to be an adult. She's no different then the young men she insults.
@@LeahBreHappyCan doesn’t mean should. Men generally work longer and harder than women so shouldn’t use the energy or time to do menial things like laundry if possible. Hence why it was largely women throughout history.
2 young successful influencers with no children (possibly both single) talking about getting a maid or pay someone to do anything you don't want to do in the house... We could not be more detached from reality of marriage and family building.. relationship is serving not excel spread sheet of "what am i getting?"...
Well said. The entitlement is unreal. Saying absolutely you won't do your spouses laundry reeks of self-infantalism, I did my roommates laundry once because he was super hungover and needed the help. You need a live in maid and a cook? Congrats, do does my 7 year old.
Most people can't "just get a maid" so in the case where the man is working to bring in a sole income as childcare fees render another income virtally pointless, it does help for a female to have homecare skills. Women aren't attracted to men without those skills. If a man has his life together and knows how to keep a house it's understandable he desires the same in a partner without having to pay someone else to do those tasks don't you think. 4:31
It’s not just an LA thing; it’s a Western society thing. And this young woman clearly does not know herself as she comes off as selfish and immature as well.
@RosiG73 Yes, it's a comment section, I believe that's what it's for. You seem upset that I wished you happiness at your societal preference. Feel better.
@@billytheripper4 Mature means having money. Young women that say they want a mature partner are prostitutes, they just want older man because he has money.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 she said so herself.. even in this podcast she said that she would never do her partners laundry..maybe her mom but not her partner. That tells you everything you need to know.
@@phillipjacobs7691 No it doesnt you want an excuse to hate her, I know your type you always prove the femenist right and I hate that. And she knows how to cook.
Relationship is about communication. Shameless, raw, honest and tough conversations. These reveal your personality and traumas. If you find a person who listens and loves, admits faults and wants to grow with you, consider commitment. This DOES NOT apply to casual dating (i hate it).
Powerful words. I just lost my girlfriend because I was not able to have those tough discussions about many small discomforts, and it blew up in the end. Don't do that error, just be vulnerable and try to talk it out.
@@nicolasm400 There is so much great women out there, and trust me when i say it, media and some people just dont want you to know that. Pain is inevitable but suffering is a choice. I knew from day one that this 'redpill' crap is going nowhere. Its not about crying your soul out within 7 days of dating, but getting to know each other without trying to change (unconciously control) your loved one. Acceptance, cooperation and commitment are foundations of unbreakable bonds. Love you brother and stay hard!
A 20something girl who's lived with phones and social platforms her entire life and has millions of followers on it saying "I'm mature for my age" is really something.
“I’m mature for my age” behaves like a 14 year old around Bradly Martin, Sneako and other men. On the other hand My wife is actually very mature for her age. My wife doesn’t play games, she cooks, she washes clothes, keeps our place clean, she mops, she vacuums, she makes the bed, she keeps records of my appointments (doctors visits), she donates money to orphans, she reads her Bible daily, she prays daily, she is submissive not combative, she is frugal. I am beyond blessed. And she she just turned 30 years old. She has been like this since I met her 11 years ago. That gorgeous girl to my right that’s my wife.
@@rmarques8156it has a lot to do with maturity. She understands that life is about sacrifice for others. Just as I sacrifice my health and well being to provide for my wife, financially, emotionally and protection. My wife runs circles around a maid, and the food she cooks beats any five star restaurant. Us Latinos value our women, our grandparents showed us how family structure properly functions, and we never viewed our grandmothers equally to a secretary or a maid, it’s the western warped world view that makes you make that comparison, no wonder divorce rate is above 70 percent. My wife and I d I have been happily married for 11 years, and neither of us cry about the roles in our relationship, I happily provides financially , she happily provides a nice house hold, neither of us are foolish enough to squander money earned on a secretary or maid.
I have been in a position of evaluating people for the last 13 years. 1) Listening to this girls speech patterns and way she carry’s herself. She is no where near as mature as she says she is. 2) Having lived in LA. She brings very little to the table that would keep a man interested in such a competitive dating scene.
Sounds like girls today want MEN but aren't willing to put in the work to support guys their age to grow by marrying them and supporting them. People have lost the point on marriage I think. Seeing Alex Hormozi almost cry when speaking about how his wife helped him when they were young and he was broke... brings tears to my eyes.
I was wildland firefighter starting age 18 to pay for 5 years of school to get a degree in the medical field. Started in the medical field at 23. Became a single father at 26. I'm now 42. I wouldn't have "dated" someone with her personality now or then. I've slept with plenty of attractive women like her (and similar personalities). Did you notice I said "slept with" not dated?
I also worked as a wildland firefighter. Believe me, if you can keep your feet on the black, you're gonna make ENOUGH money, especially if your are working for big Green (USFS) or Fish and Wildlife@@greglane501
terrific as hell advice my friend. use their unrealistic expectations and masculinity ridicule as fuel to chisel away at the more insufferable parts of ourselves to the point where a DECENT woman comes along and just kicks it off with you and then you scoop all the rewards for all your hard work
Men and women are of equal maturity at the same age. (Sometimes men are more mature due to societal expectations that they "be a man" and take on lots of responsibility and accountability) The problem is women typically expect man to be MORE mature than her at the SAME age. This rarely happens, so women typically look for older guys. Also, older guys are more established and aren't desperate financially. They have their own place, their own car and likely got a promotion or two. Women do typically mature faster than men, but this difference evaporates after early 20s.
The fool claims he isn’t a fool, It’s the wise man that admits he isn’t wise. It’s the mature person that claims they aren’t mature. If you’re so confidently bragging about how mature you are, you aren’t mature. Have some humility damn.
I have always felt that I am immature. But I read your comment, and that begins to make we wonder if I am actually mature. And then, am I immature for considering the fact that I'm mature? I am now in a loop. God save me
“Even if that’s plumbing!???” Honey, You are about 2 years away from paying more for your plumber than your doctor. He will likely have a wonderful trad wife too.
this is precisely why I'm trying to get into the trades, the problem is most places are so over worked they really can't handle the added pressure of putting on an apprentice
Chris, it would be good to get the perspectives of the elderly married and divorced to find out what has been truly important in their relationships. Hypergamy for a woman and physical attributes for a man might work in the early stages of marriage but if there's a lack of emotional intimacy and shared interests don't expect the relationship to last.
2:33, 3:10 (aspiration+discipline+competence/capability) What I look for personality-wise (and therefore the standard I set for myself): devotion/passion/conviction, discipline, intolerance, virtue, goodness, honesty/integrity, humility, punctuality, respectfulness, peacefulness, kindness, loving, patience, uplifting, generosity, contentment/thankfulness, capability, responsibility, intelligence, joyfulness/positivity, confidence, and extroversion 7:18 it's not virtue-signaling if you actually practice (and therefore are) those virtues
Do you offer looks/sex? These guys bashing her for outsourcing laundry better be clamoring for you since she offers 'nothing'. THIS ONE'LL DO LAUNDRY!!!!
@@MCARTER1 She doesn't want to do basic tasks like laundry and cooking, what makes you think she'll be able to handle the responsibilities that come with having a family, answer is she probably won't and will add to the increasing number of broken household and divorce.
Laundry and cooking are simply signifiers of caring and nurturing. That’s the female counterpart of the drive and focus women want from their partners.
Ahhh, I guess those partners are not driven enough so now she's going to have to get used to doing dirty work and NuRtUre a grown ass adult. As if she needs to be in a relationship if she's gonna be doing all that when she can afford someone else to or just do her own thing without the extra hassle so they can have DrIvE and fOcUs Pocus.
Women want someone capable of protecting and providing for themselves and their eventual children. Men want someone who’ll care for and look after their children as a nurturing figure. The cooking and laundry thing is just one possible external signal that a woman cares about the household and will nurture their children.
@netyimeni169 laundry and basic chores are 'woman' stuff??? Why do you need to be with another adult who not only doesn't know how to do laundry, they also have a complex that you both can't pay someone else to do it when you can afford it??
@calesaucer6999 I'd like a partner who is practical, helpful and not making my life unnecessarily difficult because they need me to laundry when I don't have to. Why work if you can't enjoy your money ?? That just tells me you have a sadistic view of others.
I think that female self improvement is keeping your bodycount down, being in shape, becoming more agreeable, being a better cook, being more likely to do the housework etc. Now, you don't have to do those things and you obviously have the right to your personal preferences.
Dating is so superficial now. It ain't even about the other person. It's about the restaurant, who pays the bill, where's the sex ect.... no one looking for love anymore. Just lust and financial security
As a father I do my wife’s laundry and my children’s. My 10 year old also does laundry for our family and so does my wife. If this is genz mentality it’s incredibly sad.
The plumber needs to work hard and improve at plumbing every day, but she will NEVER help him with laundry. Maybe if he was working on improving his "doing his own laundry" skills. Laundry itself is not a big deal, but the attitude of "I will NEVER do someone else's laundry " is extremely selfish and lazy.
I feel like Chris was honestly simping on her. There was no testing of her statements, just pure agreement when it’s obvious she’s an immature gen Z girl. Mature guys don’t want her, which is why she can’t find them
To be fair. She’s a child. She’s getting too much heat in the comment section. A lot of people that age have silly ideas and think they’ve reached conclusions. But their opinions don’t get recorded and immortalised. For her sake, she’ll probably watch this in 10 years and think “oh I was talking nonsense”
Yeah, that is the exact reason youngsters with big platforms is a recipe for disaster, she thinks she's mature but isn't really, she thinks she's describing Gen Z guys, when really she's describing most people at her age of most generations. The trouble is that people her age with a platform run the risk of never truly maturing beyond these views, because there is a solid chance that they'll have those views backed up and positively reinforced to the point they don't actually grow out of them and hit that point of clarity where they realise how full of shit they really were.
My very unscientifical guess is, you can multiply the number of tatts with 5-10 to get the number of pipes a woman have experienced - and I'm not "just" thinking orally...
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Because they are seeking external validation. Looking nice is important, but extra things like piercings and tattoos tell us they are seeking extra attention for their physicality. Women who pursue this are generally unstable offer low quality relationships. I'm speaking generally of course, I'm sure you've got a friend or know a family member who has full body tattoos and is in a completely normal, monogomous, heterosexual relationship that has lasted ever since the dawn of man. Good for you; now you understand what the phrase "exception to the rule" means.
@@lidiagizaw3828 women can change a tire, fix things around the house, mow the lawn, and do other Intensive acts of physical labor. While every woman is capable of doing these things, it is very common for her to prefer her male partner to do those chores instead. Does that make them selfish? No, it isn’t selfish. Just as women want and prefer their men to do these chores, men prefer their female partners to do specific chores as well (such as cooking and cleaning) even though the men are capable of doing them. Neither party is selfish. The sad thing is that men will be shamed by women for not doing the chores a women prefers them to do in a relationship(such as fixing things around the house and doing hard labor) and it will be socially acceptable to do so while it is “unreasonable” to expect women to do the chores men prefer them to do in a relationship.
A real man should be able to do everything for himself, cook, clean, shop, iron, wash, everything! he shouldn't need a woman or anybody else to do anything for him a man should be totally self sufficient, one love from the UK 🇬🇧🤜🏼🤛🏼
@JS-sv4ol yes, women couldn't divorce men (1969), have bank accounts without a signature from a husband or male relative (1974) , charge their husbands for marital rape (1993) etc. Essentially, they were prisoners.
100 years ago, women were already cooking and nursing for the soldiers on the battlefield, they were also taking care of the kids, it's not a generational thing, but not too long-ago people understood the responsibilities that came once you turned a certain age, something which has decayded over the past several decades. Now when people say you're 18, it doesn't mean get ready to look for a partner, to take up responsibilities, to be prepared to be a husband/Wife, no, now turning 18 means drinking illegally, going to frat parties, doing drugs, getting the body counts high, and overall being incredibly immature and degenerate.
Women have been wearing a nose ring since the 90s. You’re simply deflecting her message because YOU don’t like her looks. Pot calling the kettle black eh? 🤡
@@josh7693 i don't like those bull nose rings on chicks. You know, the septum ones. Looks like they're going for some tough lady look and is not attractive to me. I don't mind hers. But i don't like any other facial piercings on a woman. The guy who commented has a right to like or not like whatever he wants. He's probably mostly turned off by her attitude anyways. That's what's unattractive on her. She has the mind that her only duty in a relationship is to show up. It's supposed to be a 50/50 thing or at least a give and take dynamic. You do have to put in something. Her something comes off as her just saying yes to the relationship. This may just be talk. The right guy shows up and she may learn that she wants to be helpful. She wants to provide nutrition for her special someone. She wants to be in his corner by any means necessary. It's just this talk is more confirmation fodder for the red pill type community. "See, i told ya, they're all like that". I'm 42, when i was 20, the vast majority of young ladies weren't like this. I can see the prom queen types in high school maybe being this way. Too many young ladies today come off as they think they're the prom queen. In their minds there is an abundance of choice and they're a hot commodity.
A girl with a nose ring isn't someone I would ever bring to a company Christmas party either. All these women want successful men... but successful men aren't going to bring any of these types of women around other successful people. Just plain and simple.
Don't get the hate, she wasn't that bad. Just young and immature. It's always good to listen to different people's perspectives, esp those one wouldn't normally. She's cute but defos not the type of chick I'd date. "Why invite her on?" is an L take. Not everything has to be so binary/divisive. Not everything has to be American centric 24/7.
Totally lost me at the laundry / cooking and cleaning part... I'm honestly kinda shocked that Chris didn't push back on that :/ Honestly this clip got me kinda' pissed off... I was in a long term relationship where numerous times I was criticized for coming off as "immature" because I collect Godzilla figures, and had lots of struggels in uni/job searching from then undiagnosed AD/HD, yet I never drank or partied and I always put her happyness and our relationship first... And just like this person, she had so much about her that I could have criticized as "immature" too, yet I was the one made to feel bad for it, over thibgs that for the most part I couldn't control. So now I'm pretty sensitive to that kind of hypocricy. Furthermore, when we did move in together I was the only one who did ALL the cooking and ALL the cleaning, for years... And ofcourse that inclunded doing the laundry. ( how the F dose someone get to her age without doing someone elses laundry ? Even as a child isn't it normal do help out with your families laundry ? It's not that hard or weired ) And no, getting a maid isn't an option and it's not what guys want our partner to be either, but having someone who might on the odd ocasion step in and do the dishes once a month, or so, to give you a little break so your not the only one literally doing everything every single day isn't an unreasonable request....
"even if that's plumbing" wow how gracious of you, you'd stoop that low would you to a plumber!? So she wants him to work hard with a sense of direction and competence but she's not prepared to put herself out to do his washing. The sense of her entitlement is strong.
There is 0 surprise on why she is single. Hope she learns to be giving and not just taking soon. 5 min on what guys should be doing? Guy asks her to do laundry and clean: Wow no way get a maid.
“I’m pretty mature for my age…” Nobody who has matured to adulthood is interested in comparative evaluations…about maturity. No thirty year old man looks at another man who is wasting his life and thinks, “I’m so much more mature.” Instead, he thinks, “That dude is wasting his life.” “Maturity” is a word that pre-adults latch onto because they want to be perceived by others as being a competent adult before their peers. It’s like describing your day by telling everyone about your relative position on the Earth: if you’re not in space anymore, if you literally live on the surface of the planet - congratulations, you made it - constantly signaling your coordinates on planet Earth is NOT how you communicate…unless you’re still in space trying to convince other astronauts that you’re moving around on the surface. There are no actual adults who walk around talking about how much “adulting” they do, unless they’re being deliberately ironic. The only people who talk about how mature they are with respect to their peers are children who haven’t yet become completely occupied by…the purposeful living of an adult human. And, to be frank, it’s usually something only arrogant girls do…because defaming people around you is a feminine strategy. This guest is a teenager doing her best to impress other people her age. Which is literally what you’re supposed to grow out of. Can you imagine if normal adults sat around talking this way? “OMG, I’ve done so much more adulting today than Tammy or Bobby…” Je$u$ Chri$t.
I'm trying to find the most charitable interpretation of "I don't cook or clean", but I'm struggling to derive anything positive from that statement. Both cooking and cleaning are rudimentary life skills, so it's actually a problem if you literally cannot do either. If you *can* do those things, but choose to delegate them entirely to chefs/maids/etc, you live on an entirely separate plane of existence from most people. Even folks who can afford to order out for every meal (while eating healthy) are incredibly wealthy. This degree of privilege is beyond the scope of the average American experience. So that leaves us with an attitude wherein the individual in question can and does cook and clean for themselves, but they are unwilling to do so for a partner. And that just sucks. If you aren't willing to cook or clean for me sometimes, how are we supposed to build a life together? How can we possibly work as a team to address much more substantial challenges like sharing finances and raising children? Hell, I can't even expect you to fulfill my sexual needs if you can't be bothered to throw my laundry in with yours. I wish Sara the best, but I hope she changes her perspective on what it means to be in a relationship. As it stands, she seems just as unprepared as her male peers to engage in a substantial relationship that demands commitment, compromise, and sacrifice.
It's a very 22 year old thing to say "I can't see myself doing my partner's laundry". I feel like that is directed toward any of the low value men she may have unfortunately came across in her dating experience (which I assume is very limited at her age). The moment you find a partner you care and trust, regardless of sex, I just don't see how anyone would ever say something so selfish. The word 'compromise' is almost non-existent in today's youth. You and your partner, if you have a healthy relationship, will find a way to get the mundane chores done by doing a little give and take. But we've all been young and said silly things with confidence, only to do a 180 as the years go on. Such is life. Prepare for a very disliked video, Chris! Love what you are doing though, papa bless.
Unfortunately compromise seems to be leaving the relationship lexicon in general. I’ve noticed a trend in “self affirmation” among both sexes but especially women. It’s just reaching people to be increasingly selfish.
People can appear very attractive at the beginning but then you start to recognize the patterns of behavior later and later on in the relationship once you get to know them... everyone seems perfect at the beginning, because the best face of us is what we show when we meet somebody
@@TheHealthConscounist absolutely. And the questions that we don't ask ourselves of what we want and need in a partner. beyond that, how we want to show affection to the other person. We should seek those answers.
if men are going to mature earlier, i think it needs to be an intentional choice by the parents to push their children to reach a stage of emotional, physical, mental and spiritual maturity. it's not just the young men's fault that this is the state of things, but the responsibility falls on parents as well
No - by mature these women mean "ready to settle down" If a guy doesn't want to commit to these women he is "immature" They need to call it what it is... "I don't want to date guys less than 27 because they aren't ready to commit to me" is what they usually mean and they should just stop euphemising and say what they mean
the primary reason men aren't maturing younger is because there's little to no pressure or need to do so, work at a mediocre job and live in a more or less empty house while getting drunk every weekend with your friends is perfectly good enough for most guys and the women really aren't putting any pressure on the guys to get their act together, the women either have impossibly high unattainable standards for most men or are so easy they don't need to do much of anything to get them with very little in-between
Agreeeeeed. If you go to other countries, people grow up faster mentally. If you have overbearing parents the way many first generation and women do, you tend to hold others to the standards that you were raised at. (Which are high)
It’s not about guys needing things to be clean. It’s that young women like this, for the most part, actively invest nothing into relationships. They are the receivers and want to receive the byproduct of masculine drive and dedication. Men initiate, men treat, men protect. We don’t have a problem with it because we like playing our role and it’s our nature. Women’s nature is to care and nurture so why don’t you nurture some dishes every once in a while instead of sitting there staring at your phone. We want a team player not a liability.
muscle makes her worse lmao guys would rather have a younger girl with the same face and no muscles on her... Sara knows this deep down and thats why she is so depressed
Hello you legends. Watch the full episode with Sara here - ua-cam.com/video/wJzHETdpNlQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0lHsTolB3cwztDLB
No thanks. I normally love your interviews, but this woman is not interesting.
Why would anybody do that?
what a joke of a guest
You ain't Joe Rogan. You not calling her out on the bs made me lose a lot of respect for you, but I'm mister nobody, so who cares.
But why..
I think some women overestimate their own maturity
they do mature considerably faster. The problem is most women don't ever really mature fully.
they're children. To a degree. This is why women don't really like working for other women.
It was a comment on this child saying she's at an advanced maturity level. If I was on a date with her I'd leave before the apps came.
For sure
I find the concept of "maturity" so fascinating in the modern era. I know women in their 40s and 50s that chase bad boys, spend all day on their phone, blow their money on nonsense, obsess over fashion, etc, etc. How is that really much different then a woman in their 20s?
I want stuff they won’t give and that’s their fault
has anyone ever encountered a young woman who didn’t think she was “pretty mature for her age”?
Me. I called her childish and she agreed
😂
A constant across all of human history.
I have! she openly admits she is childish and one of her go to joke is the "we're in too deep to pull out now"
Nope
Anytime a girl says she is mature for her age, immediately ignore anything that comes after
Also, whenever a sentence starts with "I feel...", prepare yourself for a bunch of incoherent bullshit
Edit: this goes for everybody, not just women
Yeah if you feel like you have to say to other people then it’s less likely to be true.
She is mature for her age and the ring in her nose proves that😂😂
Women should never be taken seriously anyway. If you do, you’re in trouble.
@@danieldiaconu8094 lmao
“I’ll never do my partner’s laundry.”
Yea, she’s real mature. She’s just like any other 22 yr old woman who babbles like they’re saying something profound but really knows nothing about how the world works.
I can't believe no one's replied to this yet.
I clean and pick up trash for a living (among other things) But apparently being a simple homemaker, is just plain beneath these "women".
I don't know what maturity she claims to have.
@@cameronreeves481 That’s bc Feminism influences women to be more like men. For ex: have sex with as many men as you want, be a boss, make lots of money, get sleeve tattoos, be loud & strong, be independent, etc. If a woman has all these manly attributes then it’s like dating a man and what real man wants to date a man? There’s nothing soft or nurturing about any of this, which is what real men are attracted to.
laundry would be done by robots anyway.
Partner lol
@@MayorOfBodybuildingTV Exactly… Partner is an alphabet ppl term. 😂
She gives me every single vibe of “random girl you met at a house party that you regret starting a conversation with”
Reeeaaal
Says the guy who doesn't try to improve in let's say plumbing
@@Dlee234 🤙
You sound like a domesticated dog with dial up 😂😂😂😂
167% Correct
Gen Z girls complaining about Gen Z guys knowing that they're the same level of immaturity is comedy gold.
"im mature for my age" said every immature person ever
Meanwhile shes in her prime years of female life and spending it getting tattoos and posting half naked pictures on instagram
So much for mature. Just another 304 who will be used up.
I cringe everytime lol.
I'm very immature for my age. Got em
Yeah, that's something a parent says about their pre-pubescent child, not what an adult says in reference to themselves. Imagine a grown man saying it? In a job interview or something? Ha.
They have a maturity ego. Which isnt the same as real maturity. Real maturity is having manners and respect for others and carries no ego.
She sounds anything other than mature. She sounds like she’s a teenager.
“I just can’t be bothered to defend her. I definitely could never see myself pay for food for her, I just could not. I just could not see myself cooking for her, not at all. She can cook for herself.” I literally could not see myself fix anything in the house for her, I don’t do that, if she needs her tire changed I’ll tell her to do it her self, or if she needs someone to pick up something heavy, I’ll tell her to call her dad.”
That’s literally what she sounds like if she were a GUY.
This is why I blocked women as soon as they revealed an infrared flag.
"just get a maid"
*Maid employment rises 1000000%*
@@christiantaylor1495 What's wrong with that??
This comment is absolute gold 🙌 Imagine a guy actually saying that on a podcast with 1.2 Million followers. My word. Times are weird. 😂
@chillin8350 easy, no one say anything like the dumb stuff they said here, and everyone would have heard the hiring it out part.
“Then hire a maid”
……
“Then hire a bodyguard”
“Then hire a mechanic”
“Then hire a personal driver”
“Then hire a lawn care guy”
“Then hire a male pro worker”
Seems kinda silly doesn’t it?
Truly, it is only SMART to split up duties. In the city, you don't NEED one sex to do one thing and one to do the other. My dad raised the corn and peas and beans. My mom and a little me canned and froze them. But mom and I picked the berries and made jelly and jam. (Dad wasn't picking any berries. He'd mow the lawn 2 to 3X a week. We weren't close. ) It doesn't matter WHO, but it's important THAT it get done and there's ownership, but only IF that works for your house. Somebody has to do the work.
Chris why would you give someone like this a platform to talk on?
He tryna clap her cheeks
Cute girls that attact simps views and he makes money easily out of it , an easy guest to bring, also the conversation is easy to carry
A person like what?
@@noahambrose446 low iq young women.
@@noahambrose446 An immature 22 yo girl that thinks doing laundry is something only to be done for their mother.
Chris didn't even try to challenge her on that. Why? I'd like to know why she believes it's something she shouldn't have to do.
Good for her that she has some money and can afford a maid, but not everyone can, and women not as financially affluent as her look at her and go: "Oh, so I should never have to do that either.". The fact she didn't even factor that in at all, and Chris didn't challenge her on that at all, is appalling.
I do it, all the damn time, pick up the clothes, chuck them in a dirty clothes bin, sort by color, put in washing machine on washing day, turn on, wait for an hour or 2, put in dryer, wait for an hour or 2, fold, put in closet, done. You can even go to the damn gym in between, zero effort.
She definitely projects the "young enough to know it all" vibe.
Forbes 30 under 30
@@abhis9353how much money she makes is irrelevant
She's right 22 year old guys for her nope iam 29 male I understand. No harm she still try to date and chill 22 and peolle her age
She atrocious to listen to..I don't k own what's worse her voice and volume or her lack of ideas and "like" usage
@@JohnSmith-fx2mzOne thing I learned to humble a woman real quick is to form a posture as if you're about to backhand them and roar, "ALLAHU AKBAR!"
If you can't be bothered to do menial tasks for someone you love then what are you willing to do? Relationships aren't about serving one person or another but loving and supporting each other through life.
It is the small acts of kindness we do onto others everyday that truly shows our love for one another.
I just can't be bothered to fix her car. Or roof. Or to defend her. Or to do anything but FFFF her a few times & then ghost her.
People want the cake without baking it first, why do all of these gen z women feel entitled to a relationship to a marriage when they offer nothing but their body and to grace you with their presence it's ridiculous they don't sacrifice a goddamn thing.
It actually blew my mind when she said that she can never see herself doing her partners laundry. Like...really?
I agree. if I was someone dating her I'd be thrilled to hire someone else to do it so we can clear up our schedules for more important stuff.
Imagine if the guy she was dating said “I can’t see myself paying for the mortgage, or car insurance, or water bill”
LMFAO. We really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I like Chris as an interviewer, but for the love of God, please find someone that actually has something valuable to say.
But she has how can you not understand the point of view of a young women have some humility for once
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644She doesn’t do very well to speak her thoughts in a long form conversation it seems. Most of her appearances are short form vlogs or social media snippets.
@@moisesjimenez4391 She will learn she is like 22 by her 25 she would be way smarter than the average guy(but that is normal for regular women) the average guy is really dumb
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644She says nothing of value. Being a young woman (or man) doesn’t give you some magical perspective. You actually have to have something interesting to say. I have nothing against Sara - she’s a funny young woman. But she produces Snapchat quality content on UA-cam. And you can tell throughout this entire clip (as well as the rest of the interview), that Chris has to carry the conversation on his back. I’ll go to Sara for laughs or her personality - not to hear her naive opinions about important social issues. Why Chris thought this would be an interesting interview is beyond me. He likely wanted to capitalize on the reach she has with a certain demographic.
@@vinvin4884 Learning about all types of women is super usefull for a man.
3:52 Seriously. Why would anyone want you if you can't cook or clean?
I'm a dude and I've been cleaning the house (including washing dishes by hand, taking out trash, cleaning the bathroom, vacuuming, cleaning up spills and messes, taking care of pets... etc., etc.) since I was 6, doing my own laundry since I was 12, working since I was 14, paying rent since I was 16 and cooking for myself since I left home and you can't see yourself doing someone else's laundry that you're being intimate with...
Relationships aren't 50/50. They're 100/100. If you're both not willing to do what's needed when it's needed, you will fail.
Good job 'practicing'... ?? How about just being responsible?
Grow up.
"Everybody in my generation sucks except me."
~Everyone in Gen Z, including myself
Honestly, as a Millennial, we started the dumbassery and I do think Gen Z is going to turn a corner. Gen Z is going back to Church, for example.
@@swesleyc7the girls definitely aren’t
“I want a traditional man, but I refuse to take on the responsibilities of a traditional woman”
you know nothing about her
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644except she pretty much says this in the full interview. She complains about how guys are now but admits to not wanting to cook or clean
@@gm9460if you do your research you will know she can do that and talking personally about me I don't want to cook and clean, I understand her feelings about that. I would prefer paying someone else to do that for me.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644Did he offend your queen? 😢
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 what do you bring to the table that a man is looking for?
People have completely lost the plot when it comes to relationships. It’s all about a relationship as a selfish endeavor “what’s in it for me?”. No wonder divorce rates are through the roof. If you approach a relationship entirely concerned with what you get out of it it’s bound to fail.
I mean from the guys perspective it's at least reasonable to be selfish given the bias in family court and the legal system as a whole that can have it's full wrath brought down upon them over a mere allegation with no evidence, besides men get most of the hate slung at them so them being bitter and selfish is entirely understandable
people? *women (corrections)
It's a culture thing, not really a male or female issue.
@@asdfdc1946 Stop acting like you are not to blame too, stop pointing fingers
That's what happens when you allow feminism to exist.
She talked about being mature for her age, then promptly stated she couldn't see herself doing laundry for her partner.
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Self importance
Didn't know laundry and maturity are correlated. You should educate us all about that. How do you do your laundry to enrich your maturity level?
well, there's the dumbest thing I'll read all afternoon courtesy of @@sp-cn8pm .
Listen to me fool: laundry is the most trivial & simplistic of favors you can do someone you love. If you won't do _that_ what will you do? Pathetic of her, pathetic of you not to understand. Geebus. She's as reciprocal as a mosquito.
@sp-cn8pm you'll get to a certain age that doing your whole families laundry isn't something you would really care about as something you would be adamant about not doing. You just don't care about little things like that. This is coming from a father. It's okay she feels that way and you do to right now, you probably won't after some point, not a big deal. It is a maturity thing but don't listen to this clown throwing shade at you and her.
She's a single mom who makes her living online and only hangs out with guys who do steroids all day. Now here she is to tell you about dating!
Wow, i didnt know she has a kid already. She's trash.
She doesn’t have a kid, what are you talking about?
Yes she does,Google her birth name.😊@jadeblackwell6227
She's still a virgin, at least last time she spoke about it
@@ハェフィシェフ And you believe that? LOL.
My Pastor said, "Y'all ratchet inside, but want the perfect Christian partner that is honest, truthful, has the fruit of the spirit."
I'm not making any insinuations, but there's a lot of blame on Gen Z men not being up to standard, while there being a lot of ratchet inside on this podcast - and I don't mean from Chris.
Saying that you would never do your partner's laundry is pretty immature and entitled.
She will find out ….
Alot of people find stereotypical gender roles very attractive/ sexy, think firefighters and nurses for example. Scale that down to home level and chopping wood and doing the ironing can also resonate.
It's actually not, a grown man can do his own damn laundry. It's literally pushing buttons 😂
@@LeahBreHappyI can do my own ironing but my wife always does it for me and I love her all the more for it because it's a chore I hate. She feels the same way when I take care of the woodburner, a chore I'm sure she could do but doesn't want to. It's to miss the point to say that because someone is capable of doing something then therefore they should have to do it.
@@LeahBreHappy It actually is immature and entitled. A man who says he wouldn't do his partner's laundry would also be immature and entitled. At some point you have to work together to find an agreeable division of labor. Or you can hire a maid, but that's certainly an entitled solution.
A more mature gen Z guy is going to see that she makes her way and gets attention through social media platforms for her looks and avoid the clear problems that will be associated by someone making their way through external validation as a lifestyle.
If you want quiet family life, this isnt it, chief.
Want something authentic son? Nope. Not here, not today. 😂
Cook
Yeah I’ve seen her videos complaining about being single on Instagram but I think she forgets that most guys don’t want to be socially overshadowed by their better half and simultaneously have their private life or romantic relationship broadcasted to the whole world. Most people regardless of gender or personality will be averse to this kind of lifestyle and out of pragmatism just not date someone in her situation.
@@moisesjimenez4391that
yeah... avoid this type of woman at all cost.
I had no idea who this person was before this episode...man, do I miss those days lol. She has an arrogance that's hard to take. Gen Z men, don't worry if someone like this won't date you. You're probably a solid man if they won't.
When a modern woman says, "I'm mature for my age," it usually means she thinks doing basic grown-up things like paying your bills means they are mature.
“Then get a maid”
Maids/meal prep is pretty affordable. Cheaper than dates. Much cheaper than divorce.
As a Gen Z male I might just wait 15 years for the next generation to grow up at this point. It's not only her, they are all like this, fucking hell.
Never say all not true.
@@spagooter1807It's not too late just the beginning stages. Ther is still time.
@@uu-kq6mnYou're out of touch.
next gen is even worse
Not if birth rates keep dropping.
Selfishness is the hallmark of the new generations. Never do they ask themselves "does this make OUR lives better?" Its only "why do I have to do it?"
Cook for your significant other when you cook for yourself. Do their laundry when you do yours. Expect they do the same, because your in it together. Stop demanding all the damned time and treat each other like theres actual love there or leave and let them find someone who will
Yeah, this, relationships nowadays are about what the other person offers for me, not what I can offer to them
As a 21 y/o Zoomer male who lives with his parents and is still working on an engineering degree, there is literally no way any of us (average, Gen Z guys) can afford a house cook or a maid. You'll only find that in the people who got lucky or were born into a wealthy family. Her description of Zoomer men kind of fits me, and that's part of why I don't plan on dating in the near future. Also, from what I can tell, she's one of those lucky people that I was talking about. She's a fitness influencer. Of course, she's not going to want to date someone like me.
Until she’s 32 and been ran through over 100 times.
Men gain value as they age and women lose it, us normies just gotta play the long game and just do whatever we love to do in the meantime.
I lived in American cities at your age, and women were similarly socially engineered to this girl's mindset even back then (90s). Hang in there.
@@Connor-yq9mx meanwhile you struggling to get ran thru once
A lot can change. Its too early to count yourself out. Just keep working towards your goals. Being self-aware is a blessing people of all ages need.
@@jamesburke4358 I must have lived in a different 90s than you did.
My step sister turned 16 in 2015 and she didn't like driving. Her mom pushed her to try and get her license. She was involved in an accident that totalled a 5 thousand dollar car and was uninjured. She said she'll never drive again. So it definitely wasn't covid for her.
One of the main issues I see in the relationships of my (Millennial) younger siblings (GenZ), is the mindset that a relationship needs to bring benefits for my persona. Like a business relationship, where knowing you brings benefits for my company/career, and therefore we keep in touch. They don`t get involved in a person and create a team together, but rather find a suitable addition to their persona and see the partner as an add-on. This mindset might keep you for very long invulnerable and on your feet, but will never open up the door to a true engaging partnership.
Oh good luck lady.
I fix my girlfriends car, i cook her dinner a bunch, she does 90% of the laundry and generally manage social events. The idea of marriage and parnership in general is to diversify your roles however you want to be overall more efficient. Thats partnership.
Well said
That take on the cooking and cleaning thing was wild and I was not expecting Chris to agree with her. Cooking and cleaning is like bare essential tasks. No one is asking you to be their "maid" but ffs if you can't even do the bare minimum but you go on a rant about how guys need to grow up. Whew this conversation is hilarious.
@@seizetheday89I can't tell if he was necessarily agreeing with her or he was trying to push the conversation forward from that perspective instead of creating tension. I've been doing my own laundry and cooking since I was in my teens. It's super easy to do. There's a chance I might've misunderstood what was being said here but 3:50 the way she worded it makes it sound like she just simply DOES NOT do these things lol. Not even for herself.
Then she talks about hiring maids and chefs so this reinforces my belief that she actually CAN'T (as she stated). She has got the most detached take on all of this lmao. And again this is after she went on a rant about guys need to grow up.
I thought it was very telling that her one exception to her "I won't ever do other people's laundry" rule was her mom and not, you know, her future kids. That really tells you where her mind is at. I mean sure, in some relationships people will do their own laundry, but as a parent you've always gotta do tons of laundry for your kids. But Ms Maturity clearly has no idea what it's really like to be an adult. She's no different then the young men she insults.
Everyone can do their own laundry and cook their own food. It shouldn't be one person doing it all
@@LeahBreHappyYes I'm glad you agree but here's a person who wants to hire maids and chefs instead of doing these bare minimum tasks lmao.
@@LeahBreHappyCan doesn’t mean should. Men generally work longer and harder than women so shouldn’t use the energy or time to do menial things like laundry if possible. Hence why it was largely women throughout history.
2 young successful influencers with no children (possibly both single) talking about getting a maid or pay someone to do anything you don't want to do in the house... We could not be more detached from reality of marriage and family building.. relationship is serving not excel spread sheet of "what am i getting?"...
Lmao exactly if they think it’s hard now they need to quit while they are ahead
Exactly, what a fkn joke
Just hire a maid 4Head
Well said. The entitlement is unreal. Saying absolutely you won't do your spouses laundry reeks of self-infantalism, I did my roommates laundry once because he was super hungover and needed the help. You need a live in maid and a cook? Congrats, do does my 7 year old.
@@goodolarchieyes they have a clear disconnect from normal people it’s honestly fascinating to watch they are so far removed.
True mature people almost never say "I think I'm pretty mature".
Most people can't "just get a maid" so in the case where the man is working to bring in a sole income as childcare fees render another income virtally pointless, it does help for a female to have homecare skills. Women aren't attracted to men without those skills. If a man has his life together and knows how to keep a house it's understandable he desires the same in a partner without having to pay someone else to do those tasks don't you think. 4:31
It’s not just an LA thing; it’s a Western society thing. And this young woman clearly does not know herself as she comes off as selfish and immature as well.
Well I wish you happiness and wellness at your non western society.
@@sp-cn8pm Ah, the self-insert. Thanks for making my point.
@RosiG73 Yes, it's a comment section, I believe that's what it's for. You seem upset that I wished you happiness at your societal preference. Feel better.
@@sp-cn8pm Project much? Lol. You need to to stop staring at your own navel.
But she said she was mature for her age
This woman cant even cook but thinks that she is mature 😂
They are using "mature" as a euphemism for "ready to settle down"
@@billytheripper4 Mature means having money. Young women that say they want a mature partner are prostitutes, they just want older man because he has money.
She can cook, why would you think she cant?
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 she said so herself.. even in this podcast she said that she would never do her partners laundry..maybe her mom but not her partner. That tells you everything you need to know.
@@phillipjacobs7691 No it doesnt you want an excuse to hate her, I know your type you always prove the femenist right and I hate that. And she knows how to cook.
Relationship is about communication. Shameless, raw, honest and tough conversations. These reveal your personality and traumas. If you find a person who listens and loves, admits faults and wants to grow with you, consider commitment. This DOES NOT apply to casual dating (i hate it).
Damn that sums it up people, this is what it’s about
Powerful words. I just lost my girlfriend because I was not able to have those tough discussions about many small discomforts, and it blew up in the end. Don't do that error, just be vulnerable and try to talk it out.
@@nicolasm400 There is so much great women out there, and trust me when i say it, media and some people just dont want you to know that. Pain is inevitable but suffering is a choice. I knew from day one that this 'redpill' crap is going nowhere. Its not about crying your soul out within 7 days of dating, but getting to know each other without trying to change (unconciously control) your loved one. Acceptance, cooperation and commitment are foundations of unbreakable bonds. Love you brother and stay hard!
@@revogenmediadotcoWithout trying to change the other.. wow. Thanks so much brother stay strong too!
A 20something girl who's lived with phones and social platforms her entire life and has millions of followers on it saying "I'm mature for my age" is really something.
you're joking RIGHT??.
"Am pretty mature for my age" and then goes ahead generalizing people based on age💀
You tend to attract what you put out.
I was finna say the same thing💀
Most women can get "anybody" for a hit, but few to hang on after post nut..
that is not true
I wish that was true everywhere. It really depends where you are. Some people don't value things the same way.
@@sp-cn8pm i know, as a man with traditional values i keep attracting women who just want to sleep around with chad and talk about tiktok
She’s extremely immature but with a know it all attitude.
“I’m mature for my age” behaves like a 14 year old around Bradly Martin, Sneako and other men. On the other hand My wife is actually very mature for her age. My wife doesn’t play games, she cooks, she washes clothes, keeps our place clean, she mops, she vacuums, she makes the bed, she keeps records of my appointments (doctors visits), she donates money to orphans, she reads her Bible daily, she prays daily, she is submissive not combative, she is frugal. I am beyond blessed. And she she just turned 30 years old. She has been like this since I met her 11 years ago. That gorgeous girl to my right that’s my wife.
Most of what you described are good things about a maid/secretary, nothing about maturity
@@rmarques8156it has a lot to do with maturity. She understands that life is about sacrifice for others. Just as I sacrifice my health and well being to provide for my wife, financially, emotionally and protection. My wife runs circles around a maid, and the food she cooks beats any five star restaurant. Us Latinos value our women, our grandparents showed us how family structure properly functions, and we never viewed our grandmothers equally to a secretary or a maid, it’s the western warped world view that makes you make that comparison, no wonder divorce rate is above 70 percent. My wife and I d I have been happily married for 11 years, and neither of us cry about the roles in our relationship, I happily provides financially , she happily provides a nice house hold, neither of us are foolish enough to squander money earned on a secretary or maid.
I have been in a position of evaluating people for the last 13 years.
1) Listening to this girls speech patterns and way she carry’s herself. She is no where near as mature as she says she is.
2) Having lived in LA. She brings very little to the table that would keep a man interested in such a competitive dating scene.
Sounds like girls today want MEN but aren't willing to put in the work to support guys their age to grow by marrying them and supporting them. People have lost the point on marriage I think. Seeing Alex Hormozi almost cry when speaking about how his wife helped him when they were young and he was broke... brings tears to my eyes.
Notice incels like you want women to support men in their goals and not the other way around
@@j.davila4523if u have more than 1 iq u will see the hypocricy of all the incels in here complaining about all women
I was wildland firefighter starting age 18 to pay for 5 years of school to get a degree in the medical field. Started in the medical field at 23. Became a single father at 26. I'm now 42. I wouldn't have "dated" someone with her personality now or then. I've slept with plenty of attractive women like her (and similar personalities). Did you notice I said "slept with" not dated?
How was that enough to pay for an entire degree? When was this?
I dont think you are a good person if you only toy with women
I also worked as a wildland firefighter. Believe me, if you can keep your feet on the black, you're gonna make ENOUGH money, especially if your are working for big Green (USFS) or Fish and Wildlife@@greglane501
Interesting...might be something worth looking into.@@nf3922
Like 15 years ago dude. He gives his ages
This is weird because people who love each other want to cook and clean and do other nice things for each other!!!
If you see a woman like this, run in the opposite direction. Work on yourself and do everything she said, but find a better woman.
terrific as hell advice my friend. use their unrealistic expectations and masculinity ridicule as fuel to chisel away at the more insufferable parts of ourselves to the point where a DECENT woman comes along and just kicks it off with you and then you scoop all the rewards for all your hard work
Men and women are of equal maturity at the same age. (Sometimes men are more mature due to societal expectations that they "be a man" and take on lots of responsibility and accountability)
The problem is women typically expect man to be MORE mature than her at the SAME age. This rarely happens, so women typically look for older guys.
Also, older guys are more established and aren't desperate financially. They have their own place, their own car and likely got a promotion or two.
Women do typically mature faster than men, but this difference evaporates after early 20s.
The fool claims he isn’t a fool, It’s the wise man that admits he isn’t wise. It’s the mature person that claims they aren’t mature. If you’re so confidently bragging about how mature you are, you aren’t mature. Have some humility damn.
Words of wisdom you are speaking
I have always felt that I am immature. But I read your comment, and that begins to make we wonder if I am actually mature. And then, am I immature for considering the fact that I'm mature?
I am now in a loop. God save me
@@v0rt3xbeta you’re aware of your own immaturity, makes you way more mature than those that are blind to it
“Even if that’s plumbing!???”
Honey,
You are about 2 years away from paying more for your plumber than your doctor.
He will likely have a wonderful trad wife too.
this is precisely why I'm trying to get into the trades, the problem is most places are so over worked they really can't handle the added pressure of putting on an apprentice
Plumber, Dentist, or Astronaut. All those jobs take years and skill to do. She literally post photos on IG….
Chris, it would be good to get the perspectives of the elderly married and divorced to find out what has been truly important in their relationships. Hypergamy for a woman and physical attributes for a man might work in the early stages of marriage but if there's a lack of emotional intimacy and shared interests don't expect the relationship to last.
Yup, it's hilarious every relationship "expert" is a young single person as opposed to a 90 year old couple who has been married for 70 years.
2:33, 3:10 (aspiration+discipline+competence/capability)
What I look for personality-wise (and therefore the standard I set for myself): devotion/passion/conviction, discipline, intolerance, virtue, goodness, honesty/integrity, humility, punctuality, respectfulness, peacefulness, kindness, loving, patience, uplifting, generosity, contentment/thankfulness, capability, responsibility, intelligence, joyfulness/positivity, confidence, and extroversion
7:18 it's not virtue-signaling if you actually practice (and therefore are) those virtues
I stopped listening after she said “I’m pretty mature for my age.” The amount of time I’ve heard girls say that… 😖
The people caught saying “I’m pretty mature for my age” are the same people who say “I don’t like drama”
Bruhhh 🤣🤣 I frfr don't like Drama however I get what you are saying
What can she offer, beseides looks/sex? Good luck to generation Z... Gen Z scares the heck out of me, knowing they are the future! 😅😅😅
Do you offer looks/sex? These guys bashing her for outsourcing laundry better be clamoring for you since she offers 'nothing'. THIS ONE'LL DO LAUNDRY!!!!
she's average looking especially with the makeup on.
She make her own money from different platforms overall she a good person but yet you wanna make her seem worse for some reason
I'm generation Z and I know alot of people are like this, especially women, women in my generation really need to mature and get their act together.
@@MCARTER1 She doesn't want to do basic tasks like laundry and cooking, what makes you think she'll be able to handle the responsibilities that come with having a family, answer is she probably won't and will add to the increasing number of broken household and divorce.
Laundry and cooking are simply signifiers of caring and nurturing. That’s the female counterpart of the drive and focus women want from their partners.
Ahhh, I guess those partners are not driven enough so now she's going to have to get used to doing dirty work and NuRtUre a grown ass adult. As if she needs to be in a relationship if she's gonna be doing all that when she can afford someone else to or just do her own thing without the extra hassle so they can have DrIvE and fOcUs Pocus.
@@sp-cn8pm if she can't do basic women stuff why is she asking guys to do basic men stuff?
Women want someone capable of protecting and providing for themselves and their eventual children. Men want someone who’ll care for and look after their children as a nurturing figure. The cooking and laundry thing is just one possible external signal that a woman cares about the household and will nurture their children.
@netyimeni169 laundry and basic chores are 'woman' stuff??? Why do you need to be with another adult who not only doesn't know how to do laundry, they also have a complex that you both can't pay someone else to do it when you can afford it??
@calesaucer6999 I'd like a partner who is practical, helpful and not making my life unnecessarily difficult because they need me to laundry when I don't have to. Why work if you can't enjoy your money ?? That just tells me you have a sadistic view of others.
4:11 "yeah, I was like, bro..." Ah, the vocabulary of someone who's very mature for her age indeed.
I think that female self improvement is keeping your bodycount down, being in shape, becoming more agreeable, being a better cook, being more likely to do the housework etc. Now, you don't have to do those things and you obviously have the right to your personal preferences.
Hold on lmao "being more agreeable" tf is that supposed to mean
@@Itz_Ashley11 agreeableness is a big 5 personality trait meaning kind, considerate, trustworthy, helpful, willing to compromise etc.
Dating is so superficial now. It ain't even about the other person. It's about the restaurant, who pays the bill, where's the sex ect.... no one looking for love anymore. Just lust and financial security
Preach!!!!!!
This 👆👆
Wake up man. That's been happening for a long time.
As a father I do my wife’s laundry and my children’s. My 10 year old also does laundry for our family and so does my wife. If this is genz mentality it’s incredibly sad.
Very kind of her to stoop low enough for a plumber and then he also get to do house chores, very epic.😂
How's a plumber stooping low enough? Do you live in a ivory tower? I'm assuming no so who are you to say that?
@@sm0kegh0stthis is sarcasm bro, he is mocking her
The plumber needs to work hard and improve at plumbing every day, but she will NEVER help him with laundry. Maybe if he was working on improving his "doing his own laundry" skills. Laundry itself is not a big deal, but the attitude of "I will NEVER do someone else's laundry " is extremely selfish and lazy.
I feel like Chris was honestly simping on her. There was no testing of her statements, just pure agreement when it’s obvious she’s an immature gen Z girl. Mature guys don’t want her, which is why she can’t find them
This, shes in her “fun” stage and actual real men that she would want sniff that shit out easy
To be fair. She’s a child. She’s getting too much heat in the comment section. A lot of people that age have silly ideas and think they’ve reached conclusions. But their opinions don’t get recorded and immortalised. For her sake, she’ll probably watch this in 10 years and think “oh I was talking nonsense”
Yeah, that is the exact reason youngsters with big platforms is a recipe for disaster, she thinks she's mature but isn't really, she thinks she's describing Gen Z guys, when really she's describing most people at her age of most generations.
The trouble is that people her age with a platform run the risk of never truly maturing beyond these views, because there is a solid chance that they'll have those views backed up and positively reinforced to the point they don't actually grow out of them and hit that point of clarity where they realise how full of shit they really were.
That’s exactly what she needs to happen, a dose of reality.
Nose ring is a huge red flag
My very unscientifical guess is, you can multiply the number of tatts with 5-10 to get the number of pipes a woman have experienced - and I'm not "just" thinking orally...
Both piercings and large/many tattoos
why?
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Because they are seeking external validation. Looking nice is important, but extra things like piercings and tattoos tell us they are seeking extra attention for their physicality. Women who pursue this are generally unstable offer low quality relationships. I'm speaking generally of course, I'm sure you've got a friend or know a family member who has full body tattoos and is in a completely normal, monogomous, heterosexual relationship that has lasted ever since the dawn of man. Good for you; now you understand what the phrase "exception to the rule" means.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644lmao found the reddior again
Relationships are not for selfish people
Say it again for the people in the back!
say the grown men who want women to do their laundry
@@lidiagizaw3828 women can change a tire, fix things around the house, mow the lawn, and do
other Intensive acts of physical labor. While every woman is capable of doing these things, it is very common for her to prefer her male partner to do those chores instead. Does that make them selfish? No, it isn’t selfish. Just as women want and prefer their men to do these chores, men prefer their female partners to do specific chores as well (such as cooking and cleaning) even though the men are capable of doing them. Neither party is selfish. The sad thing is that men will be shamed by women for not doing the chores a women prefers them to do in a relationship(such as fixing things around the house and doing hard labor) and it will be socially acceptable to do so while it is “unreasonable” to expect women to do the chores men prefer them to do in a relationship.
@@lidiagizaw3828 You don't need jesus, you need a dishwasher. 😂😂
@@blatantmotivation8939 u know what's funny women can pay someone to do all of that and the beauty is they dont have to sleep with the creep
Ladies: No man alive thinks your nose ring is sexy. Please stop.
I 2nd that motion.
naw i do dawg
One of my friends had a nose ring. I gave her shit for it all the time. Me and her dad bonded over how ugly it was lol
@@bigmikewithdahoodie1427no one cares about the opinion of a redditor in the real world
True
A real man should be able to do everything for himself, cook, clean, shop, iron, wash, everything! he shouldn't need a woman or anybody else to do anything for him a man should be totally self sufficient, one love from the UK 🇬🇧🤜🏼🤛🏼
Anyone that says they are mature for their age is a child.
She's describing every generation in their 20s ever.
Disagree; go back 40-60 years and the generational differences are in different ends of the spectrum
@@JS-sv4ol60 years ago interracial marriage was illegal. Obviously things are different now
@JS-sv4ol yes, women couldn't divorce men (1969), have bank accounts without a signature from a husband or male relative (1974) , charge their husbands for marital rape (1993) etc. Essentially, they were prisoners.
@@JS-sv4ol I’m 51 and I have lived to tell you that 20-somethings are just as she describes them
100 years ago, women were already cooking and nursing for the soldiers on the battlefield, they were also taking care of the kids, it's not a generational thing, but not too long-ago people understood the responsibilities that came once you turned a certain age, something which has decayded over the past several decades. Now when people say you're 18, it doesn't mean get ready to look for a partner, to take up responsibilities, to be prepared to be a husband/Wife, no, now turning 18 means drinking illegally, going to frat parties, doing drugs, getting the body counts high, and overall being incredibly immature and degenerate.
She says all this with a ring in her nose 🤷
Women have been wearing a nose ring since the 90s. You’re simply deflecting her message because YOU don’t like her looks. Pot calling the kettle black eh? 🤡
there is nothing wrong with that
@@josh7693I hate all facial rings. I'm gonna start carrying pliers on hand.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 There definitely, is, a mature girl doesn't wear piercings on their bodies, no man finds piercing attractive.
@@josh7693 i don't like those bull nose rings on chicks. You know, the septum ones. Looks like they're going for some tough lady look and is not attractive to me. I don't mind hers. But i don't like any other facial piercings on a woman. The guy who commented has a right to like or not like whatever he wants. He's probably mostly turned off by her attitude anyways. That's what's unattractive on her. She has the mind that her only duty in a relationship is to show up. It's supposed to be a 50/50 thing or at least a give and take dynamic. You do have to put in something. Her something comes off as her just saying yes to the relationship. This may just be talk. The right guy shows up and she may learn that she wants to be helpful. She wants to provide nutrition for her special someone. She wants to be in his corner by any means necessary. It's just this talk is more confirmation fodder for the red pill type community. "See, i told ya, they're all like that". I'm 42, when i was 20, the vast majority of young ladies weren't like this. I can see the prom queen types in high school maybe being this way. Too many young ladies today come off as they think they're the prom queen. In their minds there is an abundance of choice and they're a hot commodity.
A girl with a nose ring isn't someone I would ever bring to a company Christmas party either. All these women want successful men... but successful men aren't going to bring any of these types of women around other successful people. Just plain and simple.
I don’t know, there’s probably some degenerate tattoo artist out there with 1M Insta followers and a gay porn addiction that dgaf
bruh she doesnt want u . she's rich and hangs with rich people lol
Company Christmas party. All women hope to be paraded at a man’s company Christmas party what lofty goals 😂
@@lidiagizaw3828you sound so masculine as a whaman.
@@adelenicholson1yeah you do bozo.
She had me on 'plumbing, dentist or astronaut'. Reminds me of someone😂😂
Don't get the hate, she wasn't that bad. Just young and immature. It's always good to listen to different people's perspectives, esp those one wouldn't normally. She's cute but defos not the type of chick I'd date.
"Why invite her on?" is an L take. Not everything has to be so binary/divisive. Not everything has to be American centric 24/7.
Feminists always die alone.
They realize too late that being a wife and mother was the ideal gig.
cut the shit if it was feminism wouldnt be a thing in the first place
Totally lost me at the laundry / cooking and cleaning part... I'm honestly kinda shocked that Chris didn't push back on that :/
Honestly this clip got me kinda' pissed off... I was in a long term relationship where numerous times I was criticized for coming off as "immature" because I collect Godzilla figures, and had lots of struggels in uni/job searching from then undiagnosed AD/HD, yet I never drank or partied and I always put her happyness and our relationship first... And just like this person, she had so much about her that I could have criticized as "immature" too, yet I was the one made to feel bad for it, over thibgs that for the most part I couldn't control. So now I'm pretty sensitive to that kind of hypocricy.
Furthermore, when we did move in together I was the only one who did ALL the cooking and ALL the cleaning, for years... And ofcourse that inclunded doing the laundry. ( how the F dose someone get to her age without doing someone elses laundry ? Even as a child isn't it normal do help out with your families laundry ? It's not that hard or weired )
And no, getting a maid isn't an option and it's not what guys want our partner to be either, but having someone who might on the odd ocasion step in and do the dishes once a month, or so, to give you a little break so your not the only one literally doing everything every single day isn't an unreasonable request....
@clandestineman that's a good point.
"even if that's plumbing" wow how gracious of you, you'd stoop that low would you to a plumber!? So she wants him to work hard with a sense of direction and competence but she's not prepared to put herself out to do his washing. The sense of her entitlement is strong.
The problem with 22 to 27 year old men is that they are 22 to 27 year old men….This crosses most generations.
should change title to ‘random woman overestimates her own maturity and gives cliche generalizations about young men as if it’s something profound’
The nose ring and the masculine attitude mean it’s a no from me.
it's almost like she didnt ask u
@@lidiagizaw3828she did.
There is 0 surprise on why she is single. Hope she learns to be giving and not just taking soon.
5 min on what guys should be doing?
Guy asks her to do laundry and clean: Wow no way get a maid.
“I’m pretty mature for my age…”
Nobody who has matured to adulthood is interested in comparative evaluations…about maturity. No thirty year old man looks at another man who is wasting his life and thinks, “I’m so much more mature.” Instead, he thinks, “That dude is wasting his life.” “Maturity” is a word that pre-adults latch onto because they want to be perceived by others as being a competent adult before their peers. It’s like describing your day by telling everyone about your relative position on the Earth: if you’re not in space anymore, if you literally live on the surface of the planet - congratulations, you made it - constantly signaling your coordinates on planet Earth is NOT how you communicate…unless you’re still in space trying to convince other astronauts that you’re moving around on the surface. There are no actual adults who walk around talking about how much “adulting” they do, unless they’re being deliberately ironic. The only people who talk about how mature they are with respect to their peers are children who haven’t yet become completely occupied by…the purposeful living of an adult human. And, to be frank, it’s usually something only arrogant girls do…because defaming people around you is a feminine strategy. This guest is a teenager doing her best to impress other people her age. Which is literally what you’re supposed to grow out of. Can you imagine if normal adults sat around talking this way? “OMG, I’ve done so much more adulting today than Tammy or Bobby…” Je$u$ Chri$t.
Reading these comments really made me feel good. Glad to see so many people with some common sense and who can spot bullshit instantly
Lost respect to Chris as soon as he said “ just pay the maid “ bro …
"Prettry mature for my age" never heared that one before
I'm trying to find the most charitable interpretation of "I don't cook or clean", but I'm struggling to derive anything positive from that statement.
Both cooking and cleaning are rudimentary life skills, so it's actually a problem if you literally cannot do either.
If you *can* do those things, but choose to delegate them entirely to chefs/maids/etc, you live on an entirely separate plane of existence from most people. Even folks who can afford to order out for every meal (while eating healthy) are incredibly wealthy. This degree of privilege is beyond the scope of the average American experience.
So that leaves us with an attitude wherein the individual in question can and does cook and clean for themselves, but they are unwilling to do so for a partner. And that just sucks. If you aren't willing to cook or clean for me sometimes, how are we supposed to build a life together? How can we possibly work as a team to address much more substantial challenges like sharing finances and raising children? Hell, I can't even expect you to fulfill my sexual needs if you can't be bothered to throw my laundry in with yours.
I wish Sara the best, but I hope she changes her perspective on what it means to be in a relationship. As it stands, she seems just as unprepared as her male peers to engage in a substantial relationship that demands commitment, compromise, and sacrifice.
It's a very 22 year old thing to say "I can't see myself doing my partner's laundry". I feel like that is directed toward any of the low value men she may have unfortunately came across in her dating experience (which I assume is very limited at her age). The moment you find a partner you care and trust, regardless of sex, I just don't see how anyone would ever say something so selfish. The word 'compromise' is almost non-existent in today's youth. You and your partner, if you have a healthy relationship, will find a way to get the mundane chores done by doing a little give and take.
But we've all been young and said silly things with confidence, only to do a 180 as the years go on. Such is life.
Prepare for a very disliked video, Chris! Love what you are doing though, papa bless.
She likely dated all the criminal boys and rich guys to be “popular" and got hurt. Now she needs validation but hates men lol
Unfortunately compromise seems to be leaving the relationship lexicon in general. I’ve noticed a trend in “self affirmation” among both sexes but especially women. It’s just reaching people to be increasingly selfish.
screw u . u're a grown adult do ur own laundry
I feel like those aren’t gen z traits those are just what ppl in their 20s do
We’re still believing what women say they’re attracted to in 2024?…. Really… 🤦🏻♂️
Her opening comment proves she has a lot to learn and could use a little humbling.
Could it be the kind of guys you go after?
People can appear very attractive at the beginning but then you start to recognize the patterns of behavior later and later on in the relationship once you get to know them... everyone seems perfect at the beginning, because the best face of us is what we show when we meet somebody
@@TheHealthConscounist absolutely. And the questions that we don't ask ourselves of what we want and need in a partner. beyond that, how we want to show affection to the other person. We should seek those answers.
if men are going to mature earlier, i think it needs to be an intentional choice by the parents to push their children to reach a stage of emotional, physical, mental and spiritual maturity. it's not just the young men's fault that this is the state of things, but the responsibility falls on parents as well
You’re definitely not wrong with that.
Most addapt - the circumstances define the rules defines the play aso..
No - by mature these women mean "ready to settle down"
If a guy doesn't want to commit to these women he is "immature"
They need to call it what it is... "I don't want to date guys less than 27 because they aren't ready to commit to me" is what they usually mean and they should just stop euphemising and say what they mean
the primary reason men aren't maturing younger is because there's little to no pressure or need to do so, work at a mediocre job and live in a more or less empty house while getting drunk every weekend with your friends is perfectly good enough for most guys and the women really aren't putting any pressure on the guys to get their act together, the women either have impossibly high unattainable standards for most men or are so easy they don't need to do much of anything to get them with very little in-between
Agreeeeeed. If you go to other countries, people grow up faster mentally. If you have overbearing parents the way many first generation and women do, you tend to hold others to the standards that you were raised at. (Which are high)
It’s not about guys needing things to be clean. It’s that young women like this, for the most part, actively invest nothing into relationships. They are the receivers and want to receive the byproduct of masculine drive and dedication. Men initiate, men treat, men protect. We don’t have a problem with it because we like playing our role and it’s our nature. Women’s nature is to care and nurture so why don’t you nurture some dishes every once in a while instead of sitting there staring at your phone. We want a team player not a liability.
Why TF did he even get this person on here? Literally nothing worthy to hear from her...
"Im mature for my age"
Also
"I dont cook or clean"
She is not mature for her age
She said he is more mature than girls her ages but said she doesn’t cook or clean or would never do Laundry for her partner.
She is a child just because she has muscles does not mean she is not like any other girl
muscle makes her worse lmao guys would rather have a younger girl with the same face and no muscles on her... Sara knows this deep down and thats why she is so depressed
This was a setup. 😂 Nice job Chris. 👍