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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
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  • @Nighthawk-lr9km
    @Nighthawk-lr9km 7 місяців тому +464

    Watched Bruce's steam and noticed that the bleepy bloops sounded wrong on a game I hadn't played in 20 years. Glad to know that brain storage space was being used for something useful.

    • @codygreene9067
      @codygreene9067 7 місяців тому +3

      I caught it immediately too in a gameplay video I watched. Glad I didn’t day one buy it, but that goes for all games now. It’s odd that someone put in the time to change something so minuscule yet iconic. It doesn’t affect the overall game but it is something most gamers remember distinctly growing up. That’d be like changing the pitch of the Halo menu music, or Mario’s “yahoo”. It just doesn’t make sense.

    • @RJALEXANDER777
      @RJALEXANDER777 7 місяців тому +2

      The moment I heard that I knew something was wrong, realised this wasn't made by people who cared.

    • @illitero
      @illitero 7 місяців тому

      I'm wondering if it had something to do with efforts of data saving in the good ol' days of squeezing stuff onto things where what we're hearing is the single sample the original used, but _without_ reference to whatever code issued the apparently iCoNiC shifts in pitch that allowed usage of that single sample instead of multiple samples for each individual action. The same thought can be applied to trooper voices, as well. I'm not a dev, so apologies if that technique has a name and I'm essentially just going "ay I KNOW that girl from somewhere..."

    • @CarurossTheSecond218
      @CarurossTheSecond218 7 місяців тому

      Hey, better than algebra

  • @ImAfemaleNoob2
    @ImAfemaleNoob2 7 місяців тому +31

    5:00 “all it had to do was play like a game from over 10 years ago” Lawrence it hurts me saying it, it’s 20 years starting this November for BF2

  • @jourmodder131
    @jourmodder131 7 місяців тому +77

    MASSIVE props for addressing the problems your fans had on the last video, stuff like that is why even if I don’t always agree with you guys 100% of the time I will sing your praises whenever given the opportunity 🙌🙌

    • @Decide.Conquer
      @Decide.Conquer 7 місяців тому

      I agree. I don’t always agree with you guys and that’s okay! Thanks for addressing this. Now let’s all go back at looking at pixelated tig ol bitties.

    • @trixter252
      @trixter252 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes what they did was very respectable!! Huge props, I just hope more people watch this video so they'd know their intentions are genuine.

  • @insipidpanda6097
    @insipidpanda6097 7 місяців тому +164

    It's always amazing watching modern game companies somehow F up re-release/ports.

    • @tomburress4928
      @tomburress4928 7 місяців тому

      Should be an easy slam dunk and somehow from the gta classic trilogy remaster to now this with battlefront

    • @qAxLp
      @qAxLp 7 місяців тому

      especially when there's a re-release already on the same storefront that actually works and doesn't cost 34€ lol

  • @JohnNRoach
    @JohnNRoach 7 місяців тому +22

    To the bravest team on the internet! May your bleep bloops maintain their original pitch until 2070 and beyond.

  • @N94able
    @N94able 7 місяців тому +86

    Bruce touched on this but even if it was flawless, it's still alot of money for two games you can normally get for 10 quid together on sale.

    • @MrAjking808
      @MrAjking808 7 місяців тому

      30 isn’t much lol

    • @N94able
      @N94able 7 місяців тому +8

      @@MrAjking808 It is for what your getting. This game costs 35€, I bought both of these seperatly on sale for around a tenner. Thats 25€ for multiplayer.
      Your right that it wouldn't break the bank but it's still expensive for what your getting. And we can be happy to pay that but we shouldn't gloss over it.

    • @brendancurrie8516
      @brendancurrie8516 7 місяців тому +8

      @@MrAjking808Sure, but you could buy both games and a fast food combo, or just get the collection. Sure thirty aint much, but it's hard to justify spending more than you need to.

    • @MrAjking808
      @MrAjking808 7 місяців тому

      @@brendancurrie8516 still ain’t much at all.. you were not getting these games for $20

    • @oklin2376
      @oklin2376 7 місяців тому

      @@brendancurrie8516I spent $30 for basically single player but I am justifying it through achievements

  • @ThatSpecificIndividual
    @ThatSpecificIndividual 7 місяців тому +52

    The KOTOR remake was actually taken away from Aspyr due to poor management and it was given to Saber interactive.

    • @fish5645
      @fish5645 7 місяців тому +11

      I suppose we can now see why

    • @TheRico725
      @TheRico725 7 місяців тому

      Is it still happening?

  • @LomaGnome
    @LomaGnome 7 місяців тому +60

    2:26 That double backflip while moving forward wasn't just lag, it was art.

    • @JDilla2285
      @JDilla2285 6 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @cultofcringthulhu
    @cultofcringthulhu 7 місяців тому +86

    Man, this is such a disappointment. Those games were a huge part of my childhood. Pizza partys with the friends playing this and halo 2.

    • @independentlego
      @independentlego 7 місяців тому +1

      Same for me loved this game as a kid and they couldn't Port it to the bare minimum that we expected.

  • @michaelelkins3996
    @michaelelkins3996 7 місяців тому +73

    Star wars battlefront fans getting done dirty yet again

  • @stachanator
    @stachanator 7 місяців тому +34

    I never actually thought Bruce or Lawrence actually read the comments. If yall actually read this. Hi. Big fan since machinama. Keep up the good work. Much love. ❤

  • @ginyoo9118
    @ginyoo9118 7 місяців тому +23

    Man I really dodge that bullet. When I saw this on steam, I was about to pre-order it, but my cat jumped on my computer and pushed the power button. Went to work and totally forgot about it. Guess my cat knew it was gonna be a disappointment, Thank you Nabi you saved your dad from a heart break.

  • @PolygonAlley
    @PolygonAlley 7 місяців тому +6

    I think you could write a 3000 word media essay on the symbolism behind camera cutting between Laurences Cyberpunk rave parlour and Bruce's zen garden.

  • @ThatGuySizzleMac
    @ThatGuySizzleMac 7 місяців тому +42

    Still waiting for Bruce to show off his Star Wars book collection

    • @insidegames
      @insidegames  7 місяців тому +39

      You'll have to go dumpster diving in 2014 for that

    • @ThatGuySizzleMac
      @ThatGuySizzleMac 7 місяців тому +5

      @@insidegames Another unfortunate casualty to the Disney buy out lol
      (And now I remember when you said when you did that too and feel like an idiot lol. Btw, love your guys' content and wish y'all nothing but the best!)

  • @x570Belmont
    @x570Belmont 7 місяців тому +2

    IG Crew, I just want to say *thank you* for listening to the respectful comments expressing why people were disappointed with that previous video. I understand your line that you draw in the sand, but showing that you were willing to listen to actual well worded feedback and actual discussion, and allow that conversation to happen without, as many feared, come down with a comment purge against ones that actually had substance and context and weren't of a harassing nature. Really, there are those of us who appreciate it.
    Cheers, it's discussions and actions like this that make me think there's hope that yes, we all can solve issues and disagreements with good conversation still. Even on the internet! (Shocker)

  • @ssjaken
    @ssjaken 7 місяців тому +6

    I am absolutely blown away with how you two handled the critique from the last video. This is why Inside Games is my go to. You set the bar for quality snd ethics.

  • @ProbablyGalexy
    @ProbablyGalexy 7 місяців тому +41

    After seeing all of the comments about "you left out the Kotaku article!" I couldn't help but think that when it comes to the larger story "who cares?" A journalist who lashed out against other (also disagreeable comments) is so irrelevant to the entire story. It's not about they said/they said, it's about one company and their influence or lack of influence. Why would in independant Kotaku journalist's article change anything?

    • @douxillyfr
      @douxillyfr 7 місяців тому

      Im sure its more about them leaving out the racist comments made by the kotaku journalist and employees of sweet baby inc

  • @socksleeve
    @socksleeve 7 місяців тому +2

    How’d I not know Lawrence and Bruce had a yt channel together, subbed

  • @lurchorum
    @lurchorum 7 місяців тому +5

    Only in 2024 can an awesome game from 2004 be made WORSE.

  • @jayff0000
    @jayff0000 7 місяців тому +3

    Problem with remakes is companies under invest, I think they often have a mindset like - the game is already done just upscale some textures and sell it.
    Every time I see a bad launch I just imagine a dev telling his/her manager that it isn't ready yet, and then upper management basically going, don't care ship it anyways.

  • @scizor285
    @scizor285 7 місяців тому +56

    Thanks for being a great steward in this "gamer gate 2" drama. It just feels like tons of ad hominem and overreactions are dominating the conversation. I personally feel this whole thing is a nothingburger.

    • @chrisj320ac3
      @chrisj320ac3 7 місяців тому +21

      Its become a far right dog whistle from what I'm seeing. Just another way to complain about diversity and more nuanced storytelling in games.
      Seriously, if it doesn't appeal to you, don't buy it (not you specifically), not every game needs to be for everyone.

    • @jasperhorne
      @jasperhorne 7 місяців тому

      ​@@chrisj320ac3well thats the entire point of the steam group catalogging which games sweet baby inc worked on.

    • @osqueezyo1
      @osqueezyo1 7 місяців тому +8

      @@chrisj320ac3 sweet baby inc detected was doing exactly that. they didnt like the games that SBI was involved with, so they put up a list so people could avoid it. they didnt say heres this list of games they work on, now go attack the devs and companies involved. instead, SBID got harassed. Im a big advocate of let people do what they want if they're not harming or harassing anyone. That goes for both parties. People have the right to make whatever they want, but people also have the right to not want to play it.
      You dont always have to agree with everyone to get along.

    • @osqueezyo1
      @osqueezyo1 7 місяців тому +2

      @@bradleyyurk5744 missing the point. your opinion on if the games were good or not is irrelevant. being mad and trying to ban peoples account just because they dont like something is ridiculous.
      Even if they are blaming SBI for Suicide Squad and dont want to buy products theyre associated with, they're allowed to do so even if you, me, or the majority disagree.

    • @PhantomHalf
      @PhantomHalf 7 місяців тому

      @@osqueezyo1stop fronting for the dredges of the internet. Just drop it and continue with your life. You are either willingly or unwilling being the useful idiot for people who want all non whites to be relegated to the ether. Just enjoy your games and don’t interact with internet drama

  • @xpirate16
    @xpirate16 7 місяців тому +9

    Modern game companies would fuck up a re-release of Pong

    • @Atomix_117
      @Atomix_117 7 місяців тому +1

      $1 every time you lose.

    • @adelkheir
      @adelkheir 7 місяців тому

      Hell, they already fucked up TETRIS of all games

  • @parakathepyro
    @parakathepyro 7 місяців тому +7

    Im glad I still own the original battlefront 1 and 2 digitally on xbox

  • @jacksonzander6024
    @jacksonzander6024 7 місяців тому +1

    Reactive abuse is all that comes to mind with internet drama. Like Lawrence said, they take the reaction to provocation as reason to have provoked in the first place. Like poking a bear and feeling justified in calling it a man eater after you pissed it off

  • @NeonCyberSamurai
    @NeonCyberSamurai 7 місяців тому +2

    Banning / Blocking people on social media has been my Favorite game since 2023 🤣, like you literally don't have to interact with random people online ever.

  • @nathansosa2075
    @nathansosa2075 7 місяців тому +37

    YALL ARE THE BEST!!

  • @SlashingCobra
    @SlashingCobra 7 місяців тому +9

    Appreciate the clarification of the previous vid guys. Good Job.

  • @halcyionic
    @halcyionic 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you guys for the great reporting. A lot of times on the internet it really feels like everyone’s against me as a gamer who happens to be a girl. Really assuring to feel I have you guys supporting

  • @Zoombeanie132
    @Zoombeanie132 7 місяців тому +17

    what a shame, these games deserved better

  • @MatheusSantos-jn3kz
    @MatheusSantos-jn3kz 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm glad we are mature enough online to agree or disagree with each other without accusing or cursing like 11 year olds anymore. And by that fact alone I hope this gamergate will have a different ending than the previous one, not ending in the actual harm and d*ath of people.

    • @lucienblake9788
      @lucienblake9788 7 місяців тому +1

      Maybe in these comments sure, which I was surprised when looking at the original vid but you don't have to look far to see maybe the beginning of your comment is pretty optimistic😂

  • @thatoneperson5628
    @thatoneperson5628 7 місяців тому +43

    VERY BRAVE

  • @ddgray97
    @ddgray97 7 місяців тому +4

    HOW?! This game is 20 years old, how did they screw this up so royally?!

  • @shyneguy
    @shyneguy 7 місяців тому +17

    your guys journalistic integrity is awesome. I'm glad I followed you and been subbed since under 10k. Keep up the awesome work

    • @shyneguy
      @shyneguy 7 місяців тому

      @@Spectrum0122 they didn't have to say anything at all and people would have forgotten about them. Sure they poked a little fun but they acknowledged that what their critics said had validation. Lawrence even flat out said he hates when a game is narratively talking AT him. Even if they don't believe that this is as big a deal as people are making it out to be, they still at least understand at some level why some people are upset

  • @rookcapcoldblood2618
    @rookcapcoldblood2618 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the shoutout, Lawrence! Love the follow-up to the last one and the coverage on the Classic Collection!
    Just before the Collection was announced, I installed the old game, ran around for a few hours, and had an absolute blast. Never needed the pile of hot garbage that is this re-release.

  • @FrostedTacos
    @FrostedTacos 7 місяців тому +4

    I've heard Aspyr isn't even working on KOTOR anymore. Its changed hands a few times.

    • @madspet9106
      @madspet9106 7 місяців тому

      Probably good that they're not on it anymore, but unfortunately development hell is still development hell. I'll be surprised if we get the game at this point. Thankfully the original hasn't gone anywhere yet.

  • @EdgarRamirez-gl8uw
    @EdgarRamirez-gl8uw 7 місяців тому

    you know its weird, I'm 24 years old and I remember watching inside gaming when I was like 9 years old way back in the day when it was on machinima, im just glad that this is still goin with Bruce and Lawrence I love yall been a fan since a wee lad

  • @lunchbox997
    @lunchbox997 7 місяців тому +1

    I understand now why you guys didnt report on the content in the previous GG video. Appreciate thr clarification Lawrence.

  • @morycce
    @morycce 7 місяців тому +10

    Appreciate the acknowledgement on the previous video. Only video I've not felt so enthusiastic to support but I do love you guys and support your work as a whole via patreon.
    To most, those bad comments/videos were indeed connected which is probably where the outcry came from (but it's more just ppl venting/paranoia).
    Sad about battlefront.😢

  • @collabrec
    @collabrec 7 місяців тому +7

    Important update. We now cut live to a react cat:

  • @ZeusTheIrritable
    @ZeusTheIrritable 7 місяців тому +18

    The world is weird and kinda stupid.

    • @TheNotSure
      @TheNotSure 7 місяців тому +2

      It is. You get it.

    • @JainaSoloB312
      @JainaSoloB312 7 місяців тому +2

      I read this to the tune of Frollo's "The world is cruel, the world is wicked" from Hunchback of Notre Dame and surprisingly it actually fits pretty well

  • @richbleak3188
    @richbleak3188 7 місяців тому +3

    Guys, keep in mind that the people who are obsessed with this impotent outrage that pops up from time to time are more likely to comment on these videos. I didn't comment on the original post and I'm sure most people who see this gamergate shit for the reactionary nonsense that it is didn't comment because it seems so ridiculous. Just to say that any perception of a negative consensus in the reaction to your previous video is a sampling error. I fully support any analysis that accurately paints this flare up as the unserious farce that it is. On my way to sign up for the patreon.

  • @codmanout9861
    @codmanout9861 7 місяців тому

    I've never gotten around to playing the OG Battlefront games. I tried some years ago when I bought a Star Wars collection that included OG BF 1and 2, Republic Commando, and I think 2 other games. I gave up on the BFs because I could never get it to launch.

  • @patrickbrooks8748
    @patrickbrooks8748 7 місяців тому +2

    my problen with the whole gamer gate thing is the fact that it isn't hard to think about why it doesn't really matter. like youre really telling me i have to be upset that in the year 2024 when there is war in europe and the middle east that could end world trade as we know it i need to be concerned that a bunch of business executives are trying to do what they always do with media, try to pander harder for new audiences. They could give a shit about DEI, no, what they actually care about is making sure they can make it is profitable as possible by making every single lifestyle an oversimplified and shallow but "empowering" narrative which is why it always feels preachy, its the only way business suits think they can keep turning over new players or readers or watchers. This issue upsets me because we're ignoring how the lazy writing of executive commanding college English majors so we can yell at trans and gay people for being pandered too when they never really asked to be commodified with target clothing brands and AAA games, but they end up the target of harassment and intimidation any time gamers decide every piece of media they consume isn't allowed to challenge a single facet of the world their mommy told them about when they were a child.
    Social security might not exist by the time you retire why the fuck do I have to be upset about a jeff bezos type telling their writers to "make it more gay" or whatever when i can't even be sure my trans friends are going to safely get home at night because of the blind and self-righteous attitude of these "the west has fallen" sniveling sheltered children. Gamergate 1 never became anything because it was a bunch of high schoolers who thank god have grown up and have bills to worry about before a social crusade about video games not supporting "my american nuclear family fantasy"

  • @timleftwich
    @timleftwich 7 місяців тому +7

    More Inside Games?? You spoil us. So brave. ❤️

  • @shatzofhudson
    @shatzofhudson 7 місяців тому

    been lurking on and off for years....happy to subscribe :)

  • @wdeborde
    @wdeborde 7 місяців тому +2

    Genuinely happy that bangers have showed up at the $30-40 price point this year while AAA studios continue to try and tread water and do the bare minimum for $70+ tent pole live services. maybe eventually the industry will wake up to "just make a fun game to play" once again.

  • @christianmorganandersen
    @christianmorganandersen 7 місяців тому +10

    I'm just a sucker for accountability and integrity! I hope that some day you will report something counter to what I believe, just so I can feel validated in my trust that you would not pick and choose facts to support a/my narrative (you already HAVE my trust, but nothing beats personal experience) 🤞

  • @michaelredford5389
    @michaelredford5389 7 місяців тому +2

    The games just not optimised. It shouldn't be 60GB. It's insane. These studios that get these responsibilities to enhance these classics are really not prepared for the challenge. They're clearly not given the resources for a project like this.

  • @JohnNRoach
    @JohnNRoach 7 місяців тому

    What kills me about this game release is that the classic games were available to download on at least the Xbox store and worked exactly as they should. Crazy how far this ball was dropped.
    Also, you're the bravest bunch on the internet for tackling feedback from the gamergate video. Listening to your audience while maintaining integrity and transparency to your intentions. It's a breath of fresh air.
    Cheers from Newfoundland

  • @helioseternal2537
    @helioseternal2537 7 місяців тому

    the change of the bleepy bloops hurts so bad

  • @cande0861
    @cande0861 7 місяців тому

    The issue is that SBI did have DEI as part of their mission statement on their own website and have just recently removed it in the current fallout.
    There is no real issue with being a DEI consultant however trying to hide that they are leads people to believe there is something more nefarious happening behind the scenes.

  • @X_Nation_1
    @X_Nation_1 7 місяців тому +9

    Really appreciative of the follow up from previous vid. Sometimes with or without intention it can come across as being on a “side”. Whether right or wrong I am truly thankful that you were willing to address, regardless of the topic. Keep up the great work.

  • @McSquaggles
    @McSquaggles 7 місяців тому +2

    Neat. But what is that sound reactive light behind Lawrence, and how I do get one?

  • @illitero
    @illitero 7 місяців тому

    I'm wondering if the "bleeps of mapular engoodenment" sounding like they've huffed Hexane has something to do with efforts of data saving in the good ol' days of squeezing stuff onto things. Like, maybe what we're hearing is the single sample the original used, but _without_ reference to whatever code that gave the apparently iCoNiC shifts in pitch that allowed usage of that single sample instead of multiple samples for each individual action. The same thought can be applied to trooper voices, as well. I'm not a dev, so apologies if that technique has a name and I'm essentially just going "ay I KNOW that girl from somewhere..."

  • @clarkmichaels822
    @clarkmichaels822 7 місяців тому +1

    It's sorta like the GTA 3 remasters right? It's barely a game, thousands of people buy it, they make their money and they move on. As long as we keep doing it, it's the easiest way for them to make money. There's no reason for them to do better.

  • @TheLivingRiot
    @TheLivingRiot 7 місяців тому +5

    Thank you Loz and Bruce for addressing the last video ❤

  • @prrocker9637
    @prrocker9637 7 місяців тому

    I pre-ordered the battlefront collection on switch and the lag is easily the biggest issue I've had with the collection so far while the stuff like the down pitched audio lines and the LOUD crunch explosions (that one I've only seen once) still pop up I hope they fix the games super fast and add an option to pair up and stay with friends in matches but I'm still having fun with the games because the OG battlefront games are fantastic and show that just because a game is old doesn't mean they're bad since they're fun AF even in 2024 who would've guessed games made 20(BF1) and 19(BF2) years ago and made to be fun are fun games

  • @codygreene9067
    @codygreene9067 7 місяців тому

    It’s been a personal rule of mine for several years now to never buy games at launch unless they are one of the rare exceptions of a game releasing in a working state. Games are like cars now. You should never buy the first model year of a car generation because typically they have recalls and mechanical defects. Usually it’s best to wait a couple years and then buy after the kinks are ironed out. Same goes for games now. Never buy at launch, devs seem to think it’s ok to launch a game and use the customers as beta testers. The only bad thing is that sometimes they never do fix the game. So you’re stuck with a $60-$70 investment that you can’t even play.

  • @Crispman_777
    @Crispman_777 7 місяців тому

    FYI, Steam still sells "Classic" SW:BF 1 & 2 and they work really well with online multiplayer and tonnes of mods

  • @MakoBallistic
    @MakoBallistic 7 місяців тому

    Games being released broken has been going on since 360/PS3 and has continuously got worse since it started, that was nearly twenty years ago. It amazes me that people are still buying games on release.

  • @JohnRBlade
    @JohnRBlade 7 місяців тому

    Mace Windu's lightsaber is now lore accurate compared to the original release.

  • @TheProgramer64
    @TheProgramer64 7 місяців тому

    I don't think it's fair to say that they didn't have a big impact on game's story. Wasn't a Sweet Baby person a junior script writer and coordinator on Suicide Squad? Four Sweet Baby employees were writers on the Story Team. That doesn't sound like almost no impact.

  • @RobertCoxEsq
    @RobertCoxEsq 7 місяців тому +2

    This is why I am a patreon for you guys, you admit issues brought up by us fans. I've respected you guys since Machinima, and I'm glad you both are still doing this.

  • @FallenHero421
    @FallenHero421 7 місяців тому

    *Best selling starwars game of all time is getting re-released*
    Dev. Richard: hey Todd how many people do you think will be playing the game at launch?
    Todd: Uhhhhh 200? Maybe less?
    Dev. Richard: yeah that sounds about right.

  • @Yugislaven
    @Yugislaven 7 місяців тому

    It's funny/sad how I expected BF remaster to be one of those "hyped up" releases that would die in a week because nobody wants to actually play those old outdated games, but it kinda turned out to be opposite. It just might die out because people want to play it but can't.

  • @supershock5540
    @supershock5540 7 місяців тому

    I actually got into multiplayer for BF1 first try and realized I need some practice. So I did a little campaign to learn the controls again. By around the 30 minute playtime mark, I wasn't able to get back in. Then I read about the server issues and got the refund. They should have had SOME metric that they needed more servers than what was available. Don't think I'll go back.

  • @Lin-ij9vk
    @Lin-ij9vk 7 місяців тому +5

    to quote summarize Asmon's take on the matter on GG2, SBI is pretty much the scapegoat for the resentment a lot of gamers have towards the more recent games and media that has more progressive/woke topics. My 2 cents is that the reason a lot of gamers hate woke topics isn't because they're bigoted, rather because a lot of high profile bad stories and writings seem to have a lot of progressive/woke themes (either because the people who wrote them are bad at their job and use diversity as a clutch or because the people who wrote them care more about pushing their agenda than writing a good story). Unsurprisingly, people will correlate progressive themes and diversity as bad writing. Whenever you see a character that isn't white and doesn't has to be white (i.e. the character isn't a historical figure or was based off of some media franchise) you will now have to think "Oh DEI."

  • @jcon876
    @jcon876 7 місяців тому

    Appreciate your reporting and attention to detail, always know I can get an objective view of the situation from you!

  • @MichaelV118
    @MichaelV118 7 місяців тому

    As someone who owns all the aspyre star wars games, they had really built up alot pf good faith. KOTOR 1-2 on mobile was fantasic like 10 years ago, then rereleasing Jedi Outcast/Academy with multiplay was fantasic, being able yo replay Star Wars Racer with my kids was like the best for a few weekends, Republic Commando and Kotor were flawless, then KOTOR2 my favorite star wars game was announced with the dlc i was hyped, i pussed my wife off cuz i wouldnt stfu about it. Then it released and i bought it day 1, then preordered the limited run version of the game, and when they cancelled the DLC i was heartbroken, i held onto hope for so long, i was super disappointed, then battlefront collection was announced and i was hesitant after KOTOR2, but I preordered it, i mean this will be a return to form right simple uprez, no major changes, multiplayer they have done this before.... Apperently they couldnt, and i am done, if they do any more star wars games i will be waiting to purchase them. I hope the next company that handles star wars retro games will showore care with the games they are making. Also really hope someone does a really good Rogue Squadron collection been waiting like 20 years for that. Thanks love you guys!

  • @ben_cav
    @ben_cav 7 місяців тому

    It's entirely okay to report on the news with a predefined bias, in fact, it's commendable even. No source of news is 100% unbiased, and no source of news should claimed to be. All you need to be is be transparent about these biases. Yes this may upset people, but that's why it's commendable, because you chose to give your opinions on the things you believe in, and you don't pretend like your analysis is the definitive take for a given topic
    Anyway, I love what you guys do, keep it up

  • @Wonko-bj4jx
    @Wonko-bj4jx 7 місяців тому +14

    haha gamergate types are always good for a laugh, thanks for shining a light on them!

  • @TwistedIrish1
    @TwistedIrish1 7 місяців тому +7

    I hope they didn't just get banned for saying L Take. I hope it was much worse than that. Banning someone for disagreeing and banning someone for saying some messed up shit is completely different. I love ya guys, but you shouldn't just keep the fans around that 100% agree with you, no one ever grows if they sit in a box of people that just agree with you.

    • @1diotSndwich
      @1diotSndwich 7 місяців тому +4

      They literally said they only banned people who only said "L take" because they had nothing to add. There were people who disagreed and weren't banned. Try actually listening next time.

    • @weavelcow9596
      @weavelcow9596 7 місяців тому +4

      I think it's fine. They're just adding negativity to the conversation without any thought to developing the discussion.
      They did respond to the people saying "Guys I'm concerned about how you reported on this". I would only think it's a problem if these comments were deleted in mass.

  • @sludgemouth1408
    @sludgemouth1408 7 місяців тому

    Bruce calls his patrons nerfherders
    > strong aura
    >a sense of caring
    Lawrence
    >doesn't call his patrons teenage dirtbags.
    What the fuck was my purpose for living up to this point?

  • @GeordieMarmite
    @GeordieMarmite 7 місяців тому +1

    Bruce, Lawrence, good news! KOTOR is being handled by Sabre interactive 🙂

  • @JoshHenderson16
    @JoshHenderson16 7 місяців тому +1

    Kira was able to find facts. Sweet Baby are explicitly listed as lead writers on projects they claim to have no executive agency over.

  • @mremixed
    @mremixed 7 місяців тому

    What will be frustrating is that there will be the apologists once the games are fixed. As if that makes it alright but, until we stop supporting bad practices of releasing incomplete or poor products, this will continue to happen.

  • @calebguthrie7062
    @calebguthrie7062 7 місяців тому

    I really appreciate that they address the comment section whether you agree with it or not they acknowledge it

  • @OriginalityDaniel
    @OriginalityDaniel 7 місяців тому +1

    i remember trying to understand gamergate at it's peak, Snapped out of it when i was halfway through reading leaked dms between Zoe and an X bf, i realized "what the in frick does this have to do with gaming?" through all the brain fog what i can recall was Zoe won some indie award via a judge who was having an affair with her? then was sleeping with a "journalist" who gave positive coverage of her game so gamersᵀᴹ in very typical vocal fashion proclaimed they should have known beforehand that it's about "ethics in gaming journalism" and somehow expecting these people having Secret Affairs to admit to the public beforehand or something? lol at the time i thought maybe don't trust or engage with that indie award show or said journalist? but the internet being the internet couldn't let it go i guess, but nobody involved deserved death threats over that just simply lost credibility and a sturn "go to horny jail" meme
    and the whole Anita Sarkeesian kerfuffle she appeared primarily agaisnt women constantly being damsels in distress in games which is fine however later took large amounts of crowdfunding to make videos with incorrect information i think the main one that set it off was her take on Zelda being helpless while not mentioning Sheik and later admitting she wasn't a fan of games? naturally the gamersᵀᴹ went excessive mode again and held Anita and Zoe up as some sort of boogeywoman of the "feminist gaming apocalypse"
    when in reality her and Zoe seem to be morally questionable people at worst but didn't deserve that sheer volume of deaththreats.
    i do wonder in this age of youtube would the hatred be as extreme? or would they struggle to gain an audiance now, i think there's been soo many copy paste rage bait channels around "woke/antiwokeness" (whatever the word woke means anymore) of media in general i think people are more numb to it now atleast i hope lol.
    i dunno what the heck else happened around that, it seemed at one point people had a dedicated website pitting various youtubers/devs into for/against gamergate catagories and it all descend further into lunacy around then.
    as to battlefront i bought it but haven't installed it, as bruce said hopefully it gets patched up but if it isn't in around a month or so ill just refund it, real shame it's rare to experience a large multiplayer base hop onto such an old game, especially back in the day i didn't have internet on my ps2 for mp anyway, on the old steam version it still had the odd server but never remotely full

    • @lucienblake9788
      @lucienblake9788 7 місяців тому +1

      Whether you agree or not that's generally how it works for people with strong opinions on something that doesn't necessarily need to be a big deal. It happens on both "sides" but people that don't have any real facts or reason just use the easy method of threats & hatred to stir a response & get it "their way".
      Sure some people do sketchy things in business but some people act like everyone has to act like a saint lest they be "cancelled" & the others just hate so they can feel validated by others for their hatred.
      Frankly I agree with you on the tired of seeing/hearing "woke" now, it's just an overused buzzword that doesn't have any real meaning, either way I hope you have a good day without all this👍

  • @DawryMike
    @DawryMike 7 місяців тому +4

    Messing a game that came out over a decade ago is the type of incompetence that has had me playing only indie games since 2015.

  • @howlercorp6431
    @howlercorp6431 7 місяців тому +1

    We love you all at inside Games

  • @adami9769
    @adami9769 7 місяців тому

    I appreciate the follow up on Gamergate 2, I've only been keeping up slightly with it so when I saw the comments last time I was wondering what I was missing

  • @src-kj1ye
    @src-kj1ye 7 місяців тому +2

    I will say this. The game had some quirks on start up, trouble recognizing controlers, etc, but once we got that figured out, i fell right back into my 15 year old habits of not going anywhere near online play and just hopping into some instant action couch multi-player, and the only major bug I'd noticed, in game, was one of the weapon slot images while playing as Obi-Wan was kind of misplaced on the screen. Aside from that the only issue I had was that my sibling kept winning.
    It seems like a majority of issues are stemming from the fact that it's a port of a 20 year old game that was never made to handle the stresses that gamers put their games through in an modern online gaming experience. That's not excusing the issues, moreso explaining them. Aspyr should have done their testing and their due-diligence to make sure that the port would be ready for prime time and that is a huge failing on their part. But as someone who pre-ordered the game, not intending to play online and only experiencing 1 or 2 bugs but a ton of nostalgia, I wouldn't call it wasted money. I think they should knock the price down a bit for sure if they aren't going to fix the issues, but aside from that, I'm gonna be screaming at the top of my lungs that my sister is screen peeking while I destroy her frigates shields just like I was 20 years ago. No refund needed.

  • @BitterPasta
    @BitterPasta 7 місяців тому +5

    Can't refund my view? Gonna chargeback it then. /s

  • @ScrubVigil
    @ScrubVigil 7 місяців тому

    First time I’ve ever gotten a refund on a digital game. Never thought it’d be a “remaster” of bf1&2.

  • @Sarjantbob
    @Sarjantbob 7 місяців тому

    Man I’m glad I’m not going crazy when I thought the planet loading screen sounded different!!

  • @NatetendoOfficial
    @NatetendoOfficial 7 місяців тому

    Battlefront 2's victory and defeat sounds have also been changed. Why?

  • @erict2899
    @erict2899 7 місяців тому

    Having tested the originals at pandemic back in the day.... this all tracks.

  • @ITSGOODFORYOURHEALTH
    @ITSGOODFORYOURHEALTH 7 місяців тому

    Aspyr did an okay job releasing a bunch of the old games in as is format, albeit some features were cut, like on the switch multiplayer is cut a lot of the time. They are not developing KOTOR remake anymore after being incompetent, so this is probably part of that incompetence.

  • @leftworld333
    @leftworld333 7 місяців тому

    "It was a time of great conflict and turmoil...
    A time where great men rose and mighty empires fell...
    A time of rogues, thieves and murderous commenters...
    It was the age of Gamergate 2.0...
    IT WAS A TIME, OF HIGH ADVENTURE!"👹🤺

  • @cassinoenzo
    @cassinoenzo 7 місяців тому

    I dont watch much on gaming nowadays. But when i see the boys post a new video, i click. Your content since back from the machinima days has always been 👌

  • @Pakaiea94
    @Pakaiea94 7 місяців тому

    Honestly haven’t seen your channel in awhile (youtube doesn’t show me 😂) i’m happy to see you two again 💯

  • @raidoureidou
    @raidoureidou 7 місяців тому

    B for Bruce B for Brave right? Let's up that last B just a smidge

  • @phodell
    @phodell 7 місяців тому

    Aspyr really went with the "It's so dense, every single image has so much going on" defense for their port that Rick McCallum had for why the Phantom Menace is a ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶l̶e̶x̶ terrible movie.

  • @CarurossTheSecond218
    @CarurossTheSecond218 7 місяців тому

    Hold up so you’re telling me the Sweet Baby stuff wasn’t about the Barbecue Sauce influencing our games?
    This conspiracy is deeper than I thought

  • @thebrokenhawk
    @thebrokenhawk 7 місяців тому

    I am sure it's already been stated in the comments but it looks like the KOTOR remake development has transferred over to Saber Interactive according to friend of the show Jason Schreier.

  • @illitero
    @illitero 7 місяців тому

    Goodness, who left all these eggshells on the floor?!

  • @kdog3908
    @kdog3908 7 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for adding more on the GG 2.0 stuff. One of the things that spun up the original GG into the many headed beast it was is, to a greater lesser extent, due to heavily distorted reporting on what was happening. No one came out looking lily-white in the original GG and the fact poor reporting, intentional or not, was a big part of that, it means much that you're back on here adding some more info to the mix. Still love you guys and the stuff you do. 💗

  • @ezerferrefin
    @ezerferrefin 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for the clarification, that really is just what I was looking for. Some acknowledgement that's all.

  • @leecroft7311
    @leecroft7311 7 місяців тому +1

    So... the Star Wars Battlefront HD Collection us nearly as bad as the sequel trilogy.

  • @ImCalvinr93
    @ImCalvinr93 7 місяців тому

    Not surprised. Literally happens with most games today.