In Bob We Trust - STOP TRYING TO MAKE US LIKE THE PREDATOR
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Partly-scripted, partly-freeform thoughts on the moribund PREDATOR franchise (re-upload with stills instead of video after a copyright-strike from Fox - apologies for delay)
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I hate to sound irritating, but the irony has to be mentioned: According to lore, that Predator in the first movie was supposed to be an outcast of sorts because it didn't get permission from its clan to be there in the first place, so it goes along with what Bob says about it being a douche. Which then leads me to the obvious hashtag of.....#notallpredators 😅
LOOOOL! Truth!
@@jazzphotos yeah
shindean
I do not remember that from the movie.
@@schwarzerritter5724 oh they never explained it in the movie, this is all about the expanded lore that came afterwards that Bob mentions.
@@shindean So it's a Retcon.
Honestly, I think they could get some mileage out of the predator kills a bunch of as*holes concepts. Like he goes to Africa and he meets a bunch of rich white guy types like the kind that aren't into preservation, they might be poaching, and like some of them are sleazy and you set all that up and just have the cathartic fun of the predator hunting them. As you said he's a slasher villain right? Well let's make him a slasher villian
Yo that's a solid pitch though
Poachers aren't white guys they are very poor African's. The white guys pay lots of money per kill as in tens of thousands of dollars and when regular tourists or people in other countries complain and nature reserves stop allowing hunting they go bust because regular tourists stop going every time they hear about violence in a country even when it's hundreds or thousands of kilometres away. What happens when nature reserves go bust? they stop paying the wardens who then kill the animals them selves.
@@Ushio01 poachers are actually Mafias rings who brought bribe guards in natures reverses and a lot of the funds for those reserves actually go into fighting corrupt
@@redraptorwrites6778 I don't think that was Bob's point his point was that trophy hunting is an egotistical stupid sport and the people who do it are egotistical assholes
@@redraptorwrites6778 while your right about trophy hunting being not a threat to wildlife
You are wrong about poaching. poachers aren't desperate individuals they are highly organised highly profitable crime rings they're practically mafia families. Sure people might become poachers out of desperation but that doesn't mean poaching as a business is a bunch of desperate individuals
The Predators in Predator 2 were great. And what made them great is that they were just detailed enough. Predator 1 Predator is absolutely a shithead rich kid. Predator 2 Predator is more a legit hunter, and the Predators of Predator 2 are less shitty about their dude getting killed than humans are. A wild animal kills a hunter and humans have to kill that animal because it's 'dangerous'. Predator 2 Predators see a wild animal kill one of their dudes and are like "Good job, he had every advantage and still got fucked. Here, have a trophy."
I like the element in Predators where they kinda acknowledge that the kinds of people that would make good game for the Preds are kinda bad people themselves.
Like, I never got a sense Dutch and his buddies in Predator where good people. Like, they are themselves kind of bad and mean, and kinda kill people and like it.
But Predators is more overt in asking if maybe some people out there deserve to be filetted by an alien.
Batzarro Pretty spot on. Dutch and his team are laughing and cracking jokes while literally murdering the holy hell out of an entire camp full of..rebels, militia...it's been a while and I can't remember what type of typical 80's excuse they gave to make it 'movie ok' for a group of walking meat slabs to just murder 100 people.
If you don't know what's going on, they'd look like a wandering group of heavily armed sociopaths.
And THAT is why the Predator thought they'd make a good target.
I think they had to rescue that woman because she was a CIA asset or something? I've also not seen it awhile, but they weren't trying to stop something bad from happening or anything noble. They didn't even treat her particularly well, as I remember.
Wasn't the beginning of P1 that a CIA team had gone missing (killed by the predator) while investigating the rebels? Didn't Dutch's team actually kill the rebels in retaliation for something the predator did? Memory is fuzzy.
I just think the predator makes a very good antagonist. Kinda like the old-style vampires from the horror movies, he can kill you but he has to follow certain rules.
Jesus, it's really cringey that you can spout so much shit while clearly not being able to grasp the concept of a movie most of us saw and understood as kids.
Just... Wow.
The easiest possible Predator film to make, The Purge:Predator. Its already been established they are drawn go violence. Have him show up during purge night. All the crazy costumes, throw Frank Grillo back in it, sure the humans would be way over matched but the sheer numbers hed br up against work against him. And dont kill him, have him adhere to the purge rules and leave the planet when its over. Have people come into the streets to flayed bodies and such hanging from telephone poles.
You had me at Frank Grillo. Even his name looks badass.
Oh, I'd see the crap out of this.
I kinda think it would be cool to see the Predator fight something that might not be able to die. For a quick dirty example, Jason from Friday 13. We could still have the campers who are terrible people be the fodder for both, that way we see what each are capable and then have this big third act showdown. For my money, I wouldn’t really care who “wins” I just want to see the fight.
Oh my God, someone start a Kickstarter for this!
At least you can play that in Mortal Kombat X.
I love your 'predator as suburban loser who gets meaning by murdering squirrels with a bazooka' analogy. So good.
I was trying to watch to watch this all day yesterday.
so what did you think?
here's an idea, take two predators, one grizzled and experienced the other is his apprentice and they get paid to bring in weird aliens alive for zoos so we get a montage of them catching aliens and monsters in the first act and humans in the second act but the younger predator starts noticing these humans have technology I.E. self awareness and when he brings his moral dilemma to the older predator he reveals that they were hunting illegally and he's not going to jail so shoots the younger predator so we spend the third act in a fight to the death between the two with the younger only surviving because the humans he saved helped him
That's a really kickass idea, I'd see that movie.
Actually, I can get behind this. It is formulaic but with the aliens being the ones grappling with a moral dilemma, it does clear the pane to see the issue more clearly.
Everything from 12:20 is solid gold, I haven't laughed this much at one of Bob's videos in a while. I would go broke going to that movie 😂😂😂
EDIT: give me a "paul rudd is a down on his luck predator who gets roped into going an ill advised, annual hunting trip with his new work colleagues (and off course everything goes wrong)" movie. Just take my money goddammit.
I always thought the Predators homeworld being a normal world with the hunters only being the minority to be the most reasonable setting, but I never thought about it in that (brilliant) detail.
*of
Fuck yes that was priceless
This is the sentiment that destroyed Star Trek. The whole Ronald D. Moore thing where all the aliens: Klingons, Romulans, whatever were all just us with weird foreheads. People can't relate to bizarre cultures that are unlike us, nope put those aliens in business suits and have them driving cars.
You want to see what I think the alien homeworld is like? Watch Green Inferno or Apocalypto.
Still watching for this comment. Bob is losing me on this one, even though I agree with him.
why does anyone care about why Han is called Solo? I assumed it was his surname. Does it really need an explanation? And who cares about the dice? It was a barely noticeable prop in the original trilogy, and I would have assumed they were there because they looked cool >__>
I kinda wish instead of a Han Solo movie, it was a Chewbacca movie, but only because I like Chewbacca the best.
Well, people apparently cared enough about how could a planet-sized prototype weapon possibly have a structural weakness so glaring it took literal magic to exploit, that it warranted a movie. And seeing what a piece of convoluted bulshit they've come up with as an "explanation" should've served as a warning, but did anyone heed it? Of course not. Well, here you go.
Here's another thing, though; now that you know? Why does it fucking BOTHER YOU PEOPLE SO MUCH? Who. Gives. A. Shit? Analyze a throwaway line more, please.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Because back in the day, Solo was his actual name and he had some meaning. If you weren't told that it wasn't his actual name, would you care?
"back in the day, Solo was his actual name and he had some meaning"
What the actual fuck are you talking about? How would you know that without any backstory? You just made that shit up in your head, congratulations.
No, kid. I don't get my goddamn panties knotted up over the creative direction a fucking spinoff film decides to take. If it offends you? You're a stupid person with stupid problems.
This has been “Bob semi-riffs on how annoyed he is with the direction of The Predator franchise.” Note: this is not a criticism. This video was very entertaining, and I’d like to see another one like it for any other franchise(s) you thought could use it
While listening to your idea of the first predator as a miserable Big Game Hunter dweeb, I thought of something. If some guy goes off to hunt squirrels with a bazooka, and gets killed by the squirrels, we'd all think he's a moron. There might be a bit of an outcry about squirrels, and so animal control gets called in to deal with the squirrels. They get killed too. Suddenly people are taking notice of these squirrels.
So all the follow-up predators might be trying to deal with this sudden 'human problem'.
I haven't watched any Predator movies except for the first one, so I don't know how well the actual sequels could fit in with this idea.
Sukugaru You didn’t miss much. Don’t watch them.
Neat idea though!
That’s not really the impression that the first and second movie give though. It seems like Predators are just wired different than people and they as a group are driven by a desire to test their physical limits against some kind of adversary. You wouldn’t say Klingons are dude bro losers because of the dumb stuff they do any more than you would make a moral judgement on a dog’s instinct to chase. Differently evolved species are going to have different morality and social norms.
Predator 2 is also pretty amusing. After that, meh.
These movies work best with the less you explain.
Technically, the first predator got stuck under a log and then blew himself up in shame. If our hypothetical human bazooka-wielder did that, we wouldn't blame the squirrels he was after.
In other words, "humanity fuck yeah"?
That pitch for a suburban ennui film but with Predators sounds hilarious, just imagine how much material could be mined just from the fact that it's basically our world but everyone's the Predator. I'd watch the hell out of that.
Wes Anderson can direct it
Or maybe a Predator version of City Slickers, where a classic Predator is like Jack Palance and he has to shepherd a bunch of whiny middle class Predator accountants on a novelty weekend hunt through Earth's tropics.
Turns out that "one thing" is the shiny polished skull of a human victim.
Yeah, but then you'd end up with them doing a Predator version of "Curly's Gold" and that just makes my skin crawl...
Predator Robinson Crusoe sounds awesome, actually. Basically, what you are saying is make him an underdog with a relatable goal. And no, people, killing humans for sport is not a relatable goal. Even the Purge had to start laying some motivation unto their characters.
The last thing an alien predator needs to be is relatable. He needs to be alien and awesome with a culture full of ritual and eccentricities that we don't understand and have to piece together and guess about through repeat viewing of all the different movies. That's the fun for me. Movies about aliens are fun because the aliens themselves are interesting to puzzle out.
Robert Blank That's for sure. The problem is movie executives won't stop trying to shove legacy characters down our throats. The least they could do is make a good movie while they are at it. Who knows, maybe learning how to make aliens human they will remmber how to make humans human.
I think Bob is really misremembering the ending of the original movie, Pred dropped his gear once Arnie ran out of weapons, and was killed when he got caught off guard by a back up to the trap he spotted and avoided because he saw through the taunts, his only major failing was his outburst when he first got caught in arnie's trap and just unloaded on everything,
also comparing hunting soldiers to hunting chipmunks is kinda not true, he went into a warzone and hunted highly trained soldiers who outnumbered him, and was quite willing to not use his best gear if they called for it, Billy yelling implies he was shanked not shot,
Predators are dicks, but they do have honor, it's why people like them they are like if Jason only picked on people who could fight back reasonably and had more moral standards,
I think a lot of people are remembering the first movie wrong. People are complaining about the jokes/comedy in the latest one but seem to forget about the same thing in the first movie
Thanks glad I wasn’t the only one who picked up on that.
Yeah, Moviebob doesn’t understand the Predator at all. If his “douchebag, big game Hunter” interpretation were true, it would render the Predator MORE of a joke than anything that Shane Black did in his recent film. Fans of the series are upset over the introduction of a “mad scientist” gene modification and hybrid motifs in the new Predator. Imagine if they were forced to take Bob’s “douchebag” interpretation seriously. He just wants to APPEAR to understand the Predator. His whole career kinda revolves around that goal.
MCCrleone354 I can see where bob is coming from, and his assessment is true of the ones from Predators, but he just seemed to not remember how the original movie went down, and his assessment made no sense as he seemed to imply they were attacking helpless civilians, when they instead target other "Warriors" for their hunts, to an outsider looking in both sides of a war look the same, and we have very little knowledge about how their culture views that,
Thanotos Omega
Yeah I agree. Predators was good but didn’t appear to have much thought behind any of its themes, unlike the first film. (possibly even the 2nd film)
I love how this just flows out of MovieBob basically unedited like it is the song of his heart
Bob, long-time fan of yours here. I absolutely love the Predator franchise and I also love this take on it. I heartily agree with you on the Predator "mythos" that's been built up by basically misunderstanding the intent of the first two films. (To that, I'll add I'm with you, I'm also someone who likes the first AvP film.) Your take on the idea of the bored, middle-management dumbasses going hunting on the weekend is both hilarious and completely accurate. I have an older DVD release of the original film that has both commentary and text info settings, and it describes in detail some of the *actual* backstory the two writers had in mind for the creature: beyond even being bored suburban assholes, they're dilettantes. They've conquered space. Material needs no longer exist for them, a la Star Trek. The mysteries of the universe are unfolded before them, and they enjoy technological and social advancements we can only dream of. So what do some of them do with their spare time? Might as well go to a backwater planet and commit mass murder!
Oh, and by way of the killing the Cecil the Lion comparison, I'd only add this: I think an even better metaphor given the above is that this isn't "big game" hunting, it's as you mentioned, "most dangerous game". We have a sentient being killing other sentient beings. For FUN. That isn't being a "noble hunter" or "member of a proud warrior race". That's "a fucking serial killer." It isn't even that dentist killing Cecil, it's a rich asshole being flown into the territory of a stone age tribe and picking people off with a sniper rifle.
OK, enough out of me. Movie Bob, thanks for making this (and remaking it), and keep being awesome!
An intelligent response! Thank you
Maybe they should make a version of Predator where coming to Earth and hunting humans is this Predator's mid life crisis.
A big Predator fan would excoriate this take on the Predator as a stupid red herring! Moviebob doesn’t understand the Predator!
@@MCCrleone354
I completely agree.
Regardless of what the filmmakers originally thought of the first iteration of the predator, it is in no way representative of the final product and anyone who bothered to look into the lore they created for the predator species would know that.
Dylan Murphy this is exactly the point of the video.
I was so angry when the first one was taken down. Fox monster.
never heard of fair use
Maybe Fox execs are the Predator?
You mean the Disney monster now, right?
Didn’t Robot Chicken make a sketch that was exactly what Bob talked about? It was actually pretty funny.
Predator takes his young boy to the hunt and the young one doesn't want to kill a trapped human because he's just a kid and hadn't learned to become a douchebag yet.
The one I was thinking about was a Predator captures a human in a net trap, and then the other predator-type aliens start tagging in him for being so insensitive. They cut the human out of he net and offer him water. They basically release him into the wild, like he was a scared animal. Which in their eyes we probably are.
So Predator by way of Douglas Adams?
I want this. No, I NEED this!!!!
I'd watch it.
I'm a diehard Douglas Adams fan and I'd watch the hell out of that.
@safe space He must main a mage.
safe space *Bob hates TROPHY hunters.
I always thought the cool thing about the first movie was that the Predator WAS overpowered by just a dude with a bow and arrow and some mud. Arnold has that line about "if it bleeds, we can kill it." I kinda feel like that's what the movie was saying. Sure space aliens are scary, but when it comes down to it, the most proficient killer or hunter in the galaxy is still man. Probably not something to take a whole lot of pride in (I'm a vegetarian), but it works for the central theme in an Arnold jungle combat movie. It just doesn't merit much of a sequel.
Did the predator even lose? I mean he has a nuclear bomb strapped to his wrist, that doesn't sound like they even know how to lose. He bombs the whole area, leaving no evidence, and Dutch is left there like an idiot having to explain to his superiors that he fought an alien on their payroll.
Yes the predator lost to Dutch.
@@KarlM29 he finally got killed by Dutch, but if you go into the jungle with an entire crew and they all got smoked, you're not much of a winner
@@LegendLeaguer I never seen a sore loser take out an entire crew of killers, that Predator was crazy as fuck, Dutch survived and can't even brag that he stopped him when all his homies are dead.
shindean a Pyrrhic vctory
This Predator drag is legit the funniest shit I've seen all week.
Thought this was about the Catholic Church at first.
Watching h3h3 I see
Both depressing *and* funny, you're doing that meme icon justice Tin Man
Lol
Well done sir
Naw, my thoughts were government funded public schools.
I would watch all of Bob's hypothetical PREDATOR sequels, especially with the commitment to the idea that maybe Predators are game hunting assholes who don't get that much respect on their home world. Although I personally don't have his exhaustion with this franchise because I've literally only seen the original Predator, Predators and one of the Alien vs Predator movies which I only half remember. While not the best movie ever, I did think the "Game Preserve" planet in Predators was a really cool idea though, and making one the Predators friendly to humans in that movie didn't ruin it.
Enough with the Alien and the Predator. We know what they look like, we know what they do, we know more about their biology, mythology, history, and life cycles more so than most of us know our own biology, mythology, and history in the real world. The mystique is ruined, and they're not even scary anymore.
Make a new monster.
They were never scary to begin with. What the Predator is, is supposed to be a badass intergalactic hunter. There's countless stories that are well written and original, studios just don't read them and opt for weaponizing autism.
The predator is more cool and bad ass then scary........he's not a horror movie monster
The predator movies are classified as sci-fi/action, not horror.
As for the xenomorphs, they still had plenty of potential before Ridley fucked it up for everyone.
What are you suggesting? A franchise based on ORIGINAL CONTENT? That's crazy talk!
Whys the conclusion of that have to be to stop using them instead of making less horrocenteic movies about them? (Which they have sorta done)
I was here yesterday trying to watch the video but it got struck down! thanks for reposting, don't let the man get you down.
It's almost as though movie review channels need to have a "fair use" green light to make videos without fear of copyright strikes.
I will start up by admitting, I don't care about this franchise. Sometimes it's fun, but I really don't care. I don't think predator as parody of itself would work. You know what I think would work? If these guys were not their own bosses. And I don't mean like bounty hunters, but like an actual primitive species of hunter/gatherers that was colonized by a more technologically advanced species. You know, like the people who actually gave the predators all these cool gadgets and the ability to travel space, in exchage for them being the cannon fodder or battle units for them. And then you can draw a parallel to the whole Alien mythology, of the Xenomorphs being created as some sort of biological weapon, but you replace the genetically engineering with social engineering, and then you even have a nature vs nurture axis on which to plan a crossover. Yeah, I think something like that could work.
Yeah, the predators getting the tech from Engineers sounds pretty awesome.
I just pictured Predator Bill Murray in Caddyshack, trying to kill human gophers.
I was a little "if you don't care so much, why bother spending so much time on it?" through the video, but your "loser Predator everyday life" idea was worth the price of admission. XD Oh, that was great.
7:00 that was a nice thought. I can picture it happening and it would make me happy.
Fox Media struck this video for using clips. Why? How? Because the DMCA was written by Senators who crafted it in an era where one of them was still claiming to have 'invented the internet.' It was ten years out of date the day it was signed. And because UA-cam has been allowed to maintain the guilty-until-proven-innocent system they've long maintained internally. So here's a handy tip from the Roninpawn: For those who wish to beat every single strike you receive on UA-cam... a primer!
Click 'appeal.' That's it. You'll win every time. Upload full copies of Family Guy episodes... openly violate UMG, Sony, and Fox copyrights... doesn't matter. You'll still win. Because the DMCA requires the 'striking' agent to submit proof to the service provider (here, UA-cam) that they have filed a lawsuit against you in district court within 14 days of your appeal to the DMCA action or else they default lose the case. At which point your content MUST return to the platform, and they can never bring issue against it on said platform again.
So unless you have reason to believe that a multi-billion dollar corporate entity is actually going to file suit against you in district court - just keep clicking the appeal button until the strike is cleared and, whatever the content, you'll win the right to monetize it on UA-cam.
So... let's not go willfully violating copyright that's a shitty thing to do and weakens your position. Because, for the lulz isn't a very good defense if Fox manages to actually sue you for infringement.
Are you speaking from personal experience? Because UA-cam is absolutely NOT required by law to put videos back if they're appealed. They're a private company, not a public service; they're not _required_ to host certain content if they choose not to. ALSO: 99% of the time a video gets flagged, which I suspect was the case here as well, it's because of ContentID, not because some lawyer with nothing better to do found the video and manually sent a takedown notice. Seriously, the only time anyone still bothers to use DMCA on UA-cam anymore is when some nobody is trying to silence negative opinions about them.
I think it's hilarious that Prey basically took Bob's idea of "Predator in X Environment " and went with "Predator in Early Colonial North America "
It's a good notion. There should be more.
I'd like to see a Predator movie based on "This is how Animals feel being hunted by humans with guns".
Put humans in the position of Cecil the lion
kenji_03 how about you put humans in the position of pigs, cows, and chickens. That'd be 10000 times more terrible
threequestionmarks Yeah, but they already did that, I think.
We just put Cecil the lion in the position he puts baby gazelles, zebra's and wildebeest.
With like, people watching in horror as Predator shares a picture with their daddy's killed ass corpse.
It may even be more sweet if the people getting hunted are, themselves hunters. I think Preds only met a human hunter once, in AVP2, but the Predator in that was less a hunter and more of a cleanup crew meant to keep their stuff from getting found out. So it wasn't so much as a ironic as it was "You got killed by the Space Men in Black".
The original Predator movie is literally that. It is about humans in the jungle being hunted for sport by a big game hunter looking for trophies. That's where whatever horror comes from the movie comes from.
Elmer Fett is the name of my Brittany Speers crossover-thrash polka covers band. Props for the 'Chicken Wing' joke.
It's all next level Most Dangerous Game, 'I'm giving you a head start to run, I'm not doing this so I can eat you or have any grudge I just want to have fun'. He has technology lightyears ahead of us but he's mainly using whatever he can carry and going against X soldiers. I find it more interesting thinking there's a race of Predators setting up rules for a hunt than a xenomorph which is just an animal hyper evolved and happens to be good at killing.
Nobody's gonna read this, but here's what I think of the Predators -
1. They are a warrior / hunter race / species with no technology of their own
2. All the weaponry and space travel tech is acquired by trading the resources they've pillaged with other advanced species in the universe
3. Hunting semi-intelligent species on relatively primitive planets like ours is their hobby
See the parallels? They're basically under powered Saiya-jinn
I figure the only thing the Predator has going for him in terms of being a big game hunter is that humans technically aren't endangered. Though it would be pretty fun to learn what constitutes as endangered to aliens that mastered inter-planetary travel, maybe we'd count because we only exist on this one planet?
Ushio01 That's very true, watch even a section of a nature documentary set in Africa & you're likely to see hoards of zebra & the like, but I'd argue that those aren't the big game hunters we hear about & that's not where people's minds immediately go. That was actually kind of my joke, humans are more like zebra than lions except I suppose we could be considered similarly "dangerous" (but not really because alien technology) and that's the only "positive" because people still generally look down on big game hunters on principle. And the whole "only exist on this one planet" also ties into your point since foreign=endangered to a *lot* of laypeople even when they're super common animals.
Thanks for updating the description on this upload.
Some things work for geeks, but not for the rest of the world. Noble,
and honorable Warriors that respect a brotherhood code is the way to go in comics and expansion of lore. Same happened with Boba, they made a mandalorian world filled with them.
glad I got to see this I was worried yesterday you wouldn't get a chance to re-upload it but I am glad you did great ideas here it would be impressive if they went this route
I now want to say a film about the predator when he isn't hunting.
You are one of my favorite movie analyst, and of everyone who talked about alien versus Predator, or the Predator franchise, what nobody seems to talk about is the one truly great part of that Mythos. The Alien versus Predator video games. I played the stand-up arcade and 2 PC titles oh, and they were amazing.
Ok Bob with the hunter thing me and my dad went hunting all through my life, he still does, I dont have as much time and my license lapsed. but the point is that not all hunters are douchbags or insecure. In Arizona we do regulated conservation hunting, hell on year more deer died in the inter from starvation than would have died from the hunters in the fall. And there are even good things about regulated big game hunting, look up Adam Ruins Everything on that. But I do see your point and here you're coming from. But just making a distinction
skyfire001
Don’t feel the need to defend your hobbies. Moviebob is just being a bigoted moron, projecting his anxieties of not being very masculine on others.
@@MCCrleone354 no he isn't. If you actually bothered to listen then you would understand that he is the farthest thing from a bigot. Because he routinely calls out bigotry for the bullshit it is. I do not disagree with him about bug game hunters. I just want to make a distinction between hunting for sport and hunting for conservation
Big game^
skyfire001
bigots do not ever call out other bigotry from others? I don’t believe you. Often they are the ones making up bigotry where none exists and they display their own, with no self awareness. Ted Nuggent is a “Shithead”? Why?
@@MCCrleone354 Nugent is a vocal supporter of the U.S. Republican Party and various associated conservative causes, particularly gun rights and hunter's rights.[64] He is a supporter of President Trump, and has made a number of statements critical of Trump's predecessor Barack Obama, one of which was perceived as potentially threatening and lead to Nugent being investigated by the Secret Service.[10]
In an interview in 1990, a few months after the release of Nelson Mandela during the negotiations to end apartheid in South Africa, Nugent stated: "apartheid isn't that cut-and-dry. All men are not created equal." He described black South Africans as "a different breed of man" who "still put bones in their noses, they still walk around naked, they wipe their butts with their hands".[65][66]
As a reward for entertaining U.S. troops in Iraq in 2004, Nugent visited Saddam Hussein's war room. He commented on Iraq, "Our failure has been not to Nagasaki them."[67]
On July 17, 2008, during the presidential election season and shortly before the Republican presidential nominating convention, Nugent expressed his skepticism about presumptive GOP Presidential nominee John McCain, stating that McCain was "catering to a growing segment of soulless Americans who care less what they can do for their country, but whine louder and louder about what their country must do for them. That is both un-American and pathetic."[68]
At a 2009 West Virginia rally sponsored in part by Massey Energy, Nugent "defended mountaintop removal mining," according to reporters on the scene. "On behalf of the Nugent family, I say, start up the bulldozers and get me some more coal, Massey," Nugent was recorded as saying.[69] Nugent is an outspoken critic of Islam, which he describes as a "voodoo religion" which "believes in world domination".[70]
During an interview with Piers Morgan, Nugent denied that he considered himself homophobic, saying "I’m repulsed at the concept of man-on-man sex, I think it's against nature. I think it’s strange as hell, but if that’s what you are, I love you. I'm not going to judge another's morals. I say live and let live. I have friends that are gay."[71][72]
Nugent clashed in 2014 with Jay Dean, then the mayor of Longview, Texas, and an incoming Republican member of the Texas House of Representatives after Dean moved to cancel Nugent's scheduled appearance at the Longview Independence Day concert. Dean said that he finds Nugent's music unsuitable for family-oriented audiences on July 4. Longview hence paid Nugent $16,000, half of the amount he had been promised, to drop him from the concert. Nugent in turn called Dean "racist" and "clueless, dishonest, and one of the bad guys."[73]
In June 2018, Nugent said that "evil, dishonesty and scam artists have always been around and that right now they're liberal, they're Democrat, they're RINOs, they're Hollywood, they're fake news, they're media, they're academia, and they're half of our government, at least ... There are rabid coyotes running around, you don't wait till you see one to go get your gun, keep your gun handy. And every time you see one, shoot one."[7][9]
This was your best video in this new format. Great job, Bob!
Congrats on getting your video back
Something I wanted to see more from Requiem is the Predator: CSI, where you have predators following the trial of criminal predators and vaporizing the evidence.
The Predator wasn't tricked into getting into a one-on-one fight, though. He did that because he wanted to. He saw Arnie as a worthy warrior and decided to ditch all of the equipment that made the hunt just fun and games.
Must've been the same thing with Billy (the only character in the movie whose skull the Predator takes.)
Lucas Barcellos One disagreement with Bob on that topic: Dutch dispatched the Predator with his wits, not his fists. Were it not for his trap that sent the massive log crashing down on the Predator, he would’ve wound up a trophy himself. Predator threw Arnold around like a rag doll.
This video has a special place in my heart as a MovieBob fan - the loving exhaustion with a B-tier sci-fi franchise that spills out extemporaneously is something only Bob can do, and to me it feels like we're David Frost and Bob is Nixon calling us drunk in the middle of the night to show us his true self. In many ways it is also a truer counter to the outraged dunking he talks about regretting in those Transformers/Pixels reviews than even Really That Good. An uncelebrated Chipman classic.
Haha! This is now my favorite MovieBob video. Fucking epic!
DarwinsChihuahua
Him projecting his insecure, bigoted opinions about hunters into the Predator that the filmmakers in no way intended on nor achieved in the film is your fav video?
MCCrleone354 Yes. Fuck hunters. Seriously. A bunch of fucking pussies who need to prove their manhood by going out and killing innocent animals. I'd rather see them hunt each other.
This was fun!
I would love to see a short about the Predator going back to his sucky day job and making small talk about the last big hunting trip
Office Space 2 with Lumbergh as a middlemanagement boss predator
My favorite part about the parsecs thing is that apparently it was supposed to come off as Han Solo didnt know what a parsec was in the script but Alac Guiness didnt give a shit so his response didnt come off as sarcastic the way it was supposed to. Im not sure how true that is but it does mesh pretty well with what we know of how that movie was filmed. I read that somewhere.
Maybe the hunting predators were exiled from their home world for being too violent.
Like they lost some kind of civil war and now rogue predator clans roam the galaxy to hunt?
The normal predators are protective of their technology to keep it away from the rebels.
Perhaps the predators we've encountered so far are preparing to take back their planet by force.
I just made that up. So there's a lot that can be done if you want to go the space opera route.
Build a big conflict that could span multiple movies.
Make the home world predators elegant and peaceful. They could be all female like on Gazorpazorp.
The only problem I see is that predators aren't known to talk and the monster face is very distracting.
I guess that's my pitch.. Great video by the way Bob!
I am glad you found a way to post this again.
This was really funny :) Sorry you got copyrighted
"They look like they need to think a minute if you ask them which animal a chickenwing comes from."
LOL! I'm dying!
They did the Wile Coyote predator in Duck Dodgers series.
Now I want to see a Predator movie that pretends to be an action flick for the first 20 minutes, then after he kills all the humans and goes home it becomes a comedy about his boring, unsatisfying middle class life and how everyone thinks he's kind of creep for killing primitive species for fun.
I don't think you said "Nobody cares" enough.
this is an excellent take. glad to see you back to normal, bob 😂
Lol your ending talking about Predator being more like real life reminds me of the Best Friend's Jerry the predator trying to get with Tina the sexy campus predator.
This is why Predators is actually my favorite sequel. Think about it. When you get over Adrian Brody being the lead (which I think was the biggest reason it failed), it makes the most sense and is the best next step to the story the first one told.
It changes up the setting context significantly but stays in the jungle, it gives some interesting variety to the group and it adds to the “mythology” in a way that makes sense without giving too much away (we have big game preserves one earth too after all). Plus it added the element of the two different races without making it stupid or even dragging it out - the small Predator and Adrian Brody team up for the same reason: Self preservation. And it fails almost instantly lol Plus it threw in just enough throwbacks without trying too hard.
I just rewatched it. Totally under appreciated.
Bob is going to be absolutely blasted for his opinions on the predator, big game hunters, and the trump kids, all of which I agree with Bob on.
But, for me, I was most shocked when he said he had a script up till the will e coyote reference...this video does not sound like bob had a script, this sounds like one of his no script ramble videos...
Revanaught
They are his dead wrong opinions (see also, insecure projections) of what the Predator represents, that is why he will be blasted. Neither Jim and John Thomas, Kevin Peter Hall, John McTiernan NOR Stan Winston had the “douchebag” Hunter idea in their minds.
@@MCCrleone354 artist intention is honestly irrelevant to audience interpretation.
Hey @moviebob I agree with a lot of what you said in this video. Some friends saw the newest Predator film recently and so of course it came up in conversation and we all came up with (in our opinion of course) interesting ideas for the Predator franchise.
The Predator is of course vaguely based off those "hunting humans for sport on a deserted island" stories, and part of what made the original movie so fun was that it was killing and instilling fear in these macho, "fearless" incarnations of 80s badassery. I thought it'd be fun to see a 'reverse predator movie where it's basically "Predator Rambo." The Predator veers off course or whatever and lands on Earth, but has none of the Predator gear. Instead, this Predator has to make its own tools and weapons (and steal weapons from humans) in order to survive. My friends also had the idea that the Predator could be the inspiration behind many monsters and cryptids in human history, and various movies could be set in different times and locations to keep it fresh.
Bob, it's fine if you don't like the movies after the first one, but if you're going to bitch about something, at least be accurate in what you're saying. The Predator was never talked into a hand to hand duel in the first movie. He actually surprises Dutch then lifts him out of the water, stares at him for a bit, drops him and then removes his mask and cannon and that's when the fight starts. It's very clear that Dutch was pretty damn sure he was dead the moment his head was caught between the wrist blades. There was no "calling out", no "my manhood is bigger than yours." That whole scene was a surprise because nobody expected the Predator to do that, given what we had seen. Also, that entire "fight" only serves to highlight your point about the Predator being the bad guy. Pay very close attention to the sound effects of Arnold as heard when we're in the Predator's perspective. It sounds like he's beating up a kid or a small animal. It's not a fight, it's a beating and it's horrendous.
litrium87
Agreed. I just wrote a small essay on this comments page on what else is wrong about his interpretation of the Predator. He doesn’t understand it all. He just projects his head in the sky, bigoted opinions about the Trump boys on the Predator. How childish.
“Rick...you’re doing this bit while your brain is melting.”
Predator dude-bro + Office Space + China = $$$
Wow Bob made a better Predator pitch than most Predator movies
Do a Bojack Horseman episode please :)
He should do an episode on how a huge swathe of Bojack fans seem to think that the main focus of the show is mental illness or depression and how they think having anxiety is somehow 'cool' or makes you interesting.
Be careful what you wish for
Peanut Turner didn’t he kinda do that with Rick and Morty?
Peanut Turner... so the show is _not_ about mental illness?
How I'd do a Predator reboot - a bunch of soldiers are out in a desert, guarding a bunker somewhere. Not super-elite 1980s action-hero soldiers, just regular grunts. A bunch of civilians come running to the bunker and beg for shelter, say that their village was attacked by ghosts...the soldiers let them stay, things feel tense...the soldiers start to get taken down by plasma casters, but they can kind of see the attackers with their night vision goggles. The whole film is a siege, with the soldiers being slowly pushed back into the bunker, until it's just the last room with the civilians clustered in behind them. Then the predators start bringing in their own predator-women and predator-children and predator-eggs and stowing them in safe places, and we realise that the attackers are a bunch of refugees, and the attackers are just a handful of civvies who happened to have weapons trying to find a safe place for the others. And then we're left wondering "Okay, so given how scary these bastards were, how scary must the thing they were running from be??"
To each their own. But I like the predator.
For real thought I never see the day someone would say predator suck . I personally think Predator 1 & 2 our my favorite movies 🎥
You just made me realize something! The original movie was about 7 super elite special forces mercenaries who are hopelessly outmatched BUT the Preditor had no idea they would be there. He was there to kill the rebels that Dutch's team wiped out in 3 minutes!
The predator is best described as a blood knight they will fight prey on relatively even grounds. Remeber those machine guns were still very capabable of murdering the shit out of the predator at a range. A plasma cannon and a machinegun is still a ranged weapon that fires a projectile weapon at a ridiclously fast speed. Both have the potential to kill with little effort so at best its more of a musket versus a pistol scenario.
Yes he does hunt weaker prey. But the prey is humans with greater ability to think on their feet. Most of the time its skilled soldiers and mercs who have experiance in battle.
I mean its kinda a double standard to embrace murderous action heros like john wick who resolves all his problems with excessive violence and never make any effort to resolve his loss through the justice system. Instead giving into his vengeful desire to murder and kill.
Politically we can see this behaviour has led to many militias and vigillante groups taking the law into their own hand and hurting many innocent people in the cross fire. Look at the Philippines where so many drug users are being killed by vigilante groups without so much as a trial or going through the justice system without fairly ensuring that the party is guilty if their crime.
I agree with you bob that the mythos for this series is not likely to be that interresting but you can portray murderous alien big game hunters as good guys using the old action movie technique of making the victims/prey people awful terribble people who are human traffickers, gang leaders and rapists.
long time watcher, first time commenter, wanted to say I like this new cadence and delivery Bob. Love your POV, and love this new delivery. Much more relaxed (the old way is great too, no disrespect, but this feels more like I'm having a drink with a dude whose opinion I wanted to hear and less like a UA-cam video)
Stop saying "us" when you mean "you". I like the Predator franchise, a lot of people I know like the Predator franchise, YOU not liking it has no bearing on the rest of us.
He forgot 90% of the details too that made the Predator compelling. I think he watched the wrong movies and the whole nerd thing is mute, everyone is a fucking nerd now, just look at Marvel. Nerdy shit is in now and pays big when done right. Also, AVP 1, 2 and The Predator to my knowledge are NOT canon. Why can't they just adapt Concrete Jungle. Smh.
Thats implied buddy......geez stop being so defensive.
At last! The prophesied return! I was so bummed this got taken down because I wanted to share this with a couple friends.
You really went off script. This felt like something you would have written years ago in matter a tone and venom.
Anyway, if the predator can lose in a fist fight with a human, then he's not hunting squirrel a.
Its so interesting that you did this video and then they basically made a Doctor Who episode around the subject.
So the Predator is like don and Eric Trump. Someone who only "hunts" to compensate.
Sheepy007
Compensate for what? They already achieved the high society goal of making something of themselves. Now they also have being able to hunt 500 Ibs wildlife under their belt... I don’t believe that they ever touted their hunting abilities as their core achievements in life. Why am I supposed to find douchiness where none exists??
@@MCCrleone354 first of all, they didnt achieve High society, they were given it to them. It is easier to become richer when you are rich, then to become rich when you are poor. With a name like trump it is guaranteed that you will find some sort of funding for whatever project you could imagine. Second Big game hunting has nothing to do with skill. The process is that a couple of impoverished trackers are paid to find a group of animals in the morning, chase them down all day to get them exhausted, then the Hunter arrives with their entourage in their. jeeps from a safe distance, some underpaid lackey prepared their rifles in advance and all the hunter has to do is pull the trigger in the end.
Sheepy007
I disagree. I didn’t say they just achieved “high society”, but “high society goals.” My point was that they were born in a rich family, and instead of living the life of cocaine, prostitutes and deviance at the expense of their dad, they actually made something of themselves. It’s a no win situation with the Trump children in eyes of “critics”. If they were spoiled rich kids who have achieved nothing still in their 30s, you would spite them. If they achieved something in he world of science, you would try to downplay it. Since they achieved wealth in real estate dealings, you are claiming that they ONLY achieved that because of their name. Which is an unsubstantiated claim. Many rich people certainly have kids that do much less with their lives than Eric, Don Jr., Tiffany, Baron and Ivanka have or will, yet they don’t receive the same empty scrutiny.
What you have described about the process of big game hunters may be true, but I don’t know if that applies to Eric Trump.
Nice work on the reupload, keep plugging on we're right behinds you
Am I the only one who thinks that Bob's complaints about the Predator are just him projecting his disdain for alpha male, sport-hunting type of guys? This wouldn't be the first time he's used a popular sci-fi film series to do this. His hypothetical Terminator sequel/reboot was basically a "take that" against jocks who peaked in high school.
Nope, you are not the only one. That’s EXACTLY what this and more. It comes across as a meltdown, lol. On top of that he doesn’t understand the Predator from the first film AT ALL. Desperation to kill your target after you are wounded isn’t the same as a douche bag Hunter. The Predator has has the warped pathology of a suicide bomber... that is horrifying! Not something to make irrelevant TDS false equivalencies to the Trump boys.
Yeah it was more than a little weird but it's par for the course in a moviebob video ,taking down to a fanbase and weird trump stuff. He literally repeated his Cecil the lion and trump hunter thing twice. Then it just turned into a window of Bob's bitter thoughts on how he views the people he hates.
The Predator has no time for politics. He's only in town with a few days to kill. What makes them interesting is they're like people. Wolf was a badass elite that was sent to clean up messes, same with Scarface. The ones in AVP were young which is why they looked like kids in football padding gear. City Hunter was one who wanted to hunt the most dangerous people in LA. Ahab was just hellbent on revenge. They have backstories and characteristics. As for hunting "squirrels" yeah. Squirrels with machine guns and RPGs that wiped out an entire squad of soldiers and spit out one liners with their leader being testosterone incarnate.
@@ShaneSemler
Most of us used to watch Bob back in the day before he went crazy, and we're just sad to see a guy that we used to love slowly go down the trump derangement drain. And even though his constant injection of politics into his reviews is irritating, he still hasn't steered me wrong on a movie reccomendation yet.
So sad to see him go down the drain that you _just can't stop yourself_ from coming back, video after video, to register your "sadness" in the comments, video after video. So sad.
If nothing else, this would probably make a good skit on Family Guy or Robot Chicken or something.
There is a little of video in your resentment
Predator 2 was a good idea to have a predator in a big city during a crime wave, with the added twist that a government group was waiting to ambush him. Predator 3 could have been on the 1st half of the film with the human side believe they are ready and capture him alive. Now, 2nd half of the film the predator is trying to escape and make sure none of his techs fall on the human side. In Predator 4 there is a squad of predators fighting an army of humans with reverse tech predator gear. Depending if the Predator is a weekend warrior or ultimate hunter would be an interesting dynamic.
You should be a consultant for movie makers.
Top 2 moments ever from the franchise. Arnold, covered in mud alone watching the predator look for him. The second is the showdown with the Yakuza in Predators. That is maybe my favorite showdown this decade.
AWESOME video Bob! Now tell us how you really think... seriously great video. Felt like a serious stream of consciousness and it works. Bravo Zulu
I would actually love a Married With Children but with Predators movie.
I’m laughing so much at the rant this turned into, but you really do have a good point about the trophy hunting thing. I’ll never understand how real people who still hunt for SPORT, don’t realize that “killing for fun” is the perfect description of them, and uhhhh killing for fun isn’t a thing good people do? Unsurprising then, that it’s people too stupid to have empathy who do it! Lol but yeah, it still works great for movie villains, even though it’s such a cartoon-villain thing at this point... kinda surreal how it still goes on in real life even as mainstream culture hates it. Uhhh... I guess that’s why right-wingers hate Hollywood?
Predator pool guy... Made me laugh really hard. That's comedy gold Bob xD
How about a Predator vs Ted Nugent movie??
moi b
Ted Nuggent would win. He is the man
that would be a vine video not a movie
I don't think Predator vs. Nugent would sell tickets, because no one would care who died. Unless they both died. That would be cool.
Dorian sapiens do you dislike Ted Nugent. May I ask why?
Predator vs Dick Cheney
I enjoy your free form more than I enjoy most people doing so, I hate doing that myself, I stammer and 'um' more than you while slowing down to a crawl, yours sounded fun and slightly manic in a good way, good job.
It was pretty meta, the Super Predator was trying to weaponize autism... meanwhile the movie itself is Weaponized autism
I don’t get it. I'm Autistic stop insulting me( if that's what you were doing). I have feelings too !
Thank you for this video I really needed this.
This feels familiar…🤔🤔🤔
Bob would you mind if I cut the part where you say "nobody cares" a few times and use it as a ring tone? Oh, and I LOVED the video.
I once the Predator and the alien and the terminator. Would love to see the comic alien vs predator vs terminator movie!
OMG Bob! First time I caught your channel. My stomach hurts from laughing so hard. Picturing the Predator back in accounting on Monday with his trophies on his desk. The guy you hate at work telling you about his trip out of town! Trump boys analogy was great! Top notch equipment, but cry when they get a boo boo! Or get lost in the woods even with their GPS they don’t know how to use!Great video, will definitely be back!
When someone who is as radical left as moviebob makes a joke about misgendering a predator its comedy gold.
He isn't all that radical though, and really I rarely saw anything political until the #RehireJamesGunn campaign since he was fired for some bull shit.
What you think the liberal pro capitalism bob Chipman is a radical leftist
@@ianstewart-vital he has been un-ironically calling people Nazis and fascists for years.
@@mahdidjama1102 he used to be pro-Capitalist, but he is definitely either Communist or Communist-adjacent now. People who believe Capitalism works don't use the term "late Capitalism".
That's a term that was literally invented by Communist critics.
@Pixel I wonder what you even think "radical" means, if you're calling someone like Bob "radical".
Good stuff! I love it when Bob goes on a tangent!