Steve Jobs, Climate Change, and Beef: Insights from Chris MacAskill | The Proof Podcast EP
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- How does an earth scientist embark on a career journey that traverses the fossil fuel industry, Silicon Valley alongside Steve Jobs, and a mission to revolutionise our approach to food?
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Chris MacAskill has worn many hats throughout his career, overcoming extreme hardship to get to where he is today. In Episode #276, Chris takes us on a journey through some key points in his remarkable life, drawing focus to the foundations of science and nutrition that underpin his worldview. This episode challenges conventional thinking and is an inspiration to more carefully consider the choices we make every day, both for our health and the planet.
Chris is a Stanford-educated geophysicist, former tech executive at NeXT, and cofounder of four successful companies: PSI, Fatbrain, SmugMug, and Cake.co. His passion for nutrition began as a teen, caddying for Jack LaLanne. This passion grew deeper during his career as an earth scientist, observing how eating patterns around the world affected both the health of human populations and the environment in which food is raised. After hosting healthy eating groups and giving talks on the topic for the last 20 years, Chris started the UA-cam channel Plant Chompers.
We discuss:
00:00 - Introduction
03:00 - Insights into Chris MacAskill's Background
06:50 - The Studies of Ancel Keys
13:50 - Chris MacAskill's Childhood
33:17 - Life-Altering Experiences of an Earth Scientist
40:26 - Climate Change in the 1980s
44:05 - Fuel Companies: Lobbying and Financing
46:58 - Obesity, Public Healthcare, and Public Interest
51:06 - A Deep Dive into Various Diets with Chris MacAskill
1:05:19 - Diets Preferred by Brain Scientists
1:09:10 - Understanding the Impact of Food on the Environment
1:15:30 - The Health Implications of Beef Consumption
1:19:40 - An Introduction to Cellular Agriculture
1:24:55 - National Geographic Documentary Films & General Magic
1:36:36 - Working Alongside Steve Jobs
1:48:54 - The Legacy of General Magic
2:01:53 - The Computer History Museum
2:02:58 - Misfits
2:08:35 - Transforming Weaknesses into Superpowers
2:14:51 - How to Choose the Right Nutrition Expert to Listen to?
2:23:00 - The Future of Plant Chompers
2:29:06 - Outro
Chris MacAskill's dedication to quality over quantity sets him apart in a world of rapid content consumption. He truly has had an incredible career and continues to dedicate himself to meaningful change. Chris is a huge inspiration to me personally, and I hope you find this conversation valuable.
Connect with Chris McAskill:
- UA-cam: / @plantchompers
- Instagram: / plant_chompers
- Twitter: / plantchompers
- LinkedIn: / chris-macaskill-970ab1
If you have any additional questions you would like answered in the future, let me know in the comments.
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I swear, Simon must have slipped something in the tea he offered me to get me to open up like I did. The man is a master interviewer. 💪
He's a deep listener. He's relaxed which is going to make the interviewee relaxed
Thank you Chris for sharing your stories of overcoming the traumatic childhood. Your background is very similar to Harvard nutritional psychiatrist Christopher Palmer, who was also homeless with his mentally ill mother. He’s on several videos and podcasts
Thanks so much Chris for sharing your story - always such a pleasure to watch your channel and listen to you speak. One of my favorites!
Thanks for sharing Chris ❤
We love and appreciate you so much, Chris!
The more i learn about Chris the more impressed i get. What a legend human being
Indeed! Totally agree
Honestly, the two content creators whose content I look forward to every time. Nuance, evidence, honesty.
Thank you! One of Simon's comments inspired the episode I'm working on now, about the power of knowing the history of nutrition to discern misinformation.
very well said. Couldn't agree more.
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that. Enough is enough!
I love and respect Chris MacAskill and The Plant Chompers!!!! Thank you so much for interviewing him.
Plant Chompers is one of the few channels I truly trust. Very underrated.
I respect Plantchomper's channels for his detail and research I use his channel to teach my homeschool family with his info ( our nutrition curriculum and his videos are family-oriented ) and book reference!
After watching this podcast, I love ❤Plantchomper and my respect is out the roof! I too had an interesting life in the beginning and there is no way to get around the shame and embarrassment. But to see the determination and values listening to this man's stories puts him up to so many notches in my book…. I know from experience we can change our outcome.
Thank you again for what you do and I am a new fan of this channel too due to Plantchomper.
Thank you so much! 😁
I never thought to show my kids! What a great idea ✨🙏🏼
My two favorite content producers!!! Simon you are such a great interviewer and Chris makes such interesting videos. He always leaving me wanting more. While i know Chris worries at times about videos being too long, I was so excited to see him in your long form podcast.
This channel needs a million subscribers!
Both channels need 3 million subscribers or more!!!! The world needs their information collected!!! I’m with you.
I never thought I would sit through a two-hour + conversation between two people I do not know but this was an absolute delight as the brilliance of both of these men just shines through. I've always said that I love to listen to smart people talk and this is the perfect example. Thank you!
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What a heartbreaking yet heartwarming story Chris. Just know that people aren’t judging you they are admiring you. I can’t help but wonder if you’re story will reach someone that is struggling with low self esteem or depression and your candid interview is the catalyst that helps them on their journey. You two are among the brightest people on social media, well done!
. . . absolutely agree...God Bless Both So Much!!!
Wow, what a treat to have the two of you together. And, so wonderful to have all of this insight about Chris. thank you, thank you, thank you Simon!
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that. Enough is enough!
Huge fan of Plant Chompers. So cool to see Chris on the Proof.
I am grateful to Chris MacAskill for creating extremely insightful and in-depth videos related to nutrition. He is an inspiring and generous person to bring so much well-researched content to the public. In the same way, I really appreciate Mr. Hill for presenting this and many other videos which illuminate how eating well can support our health and well-being. Bravo to both Chris and Simon!
The may be my favorite episode ever and I've heard them all. What an amazing man. I teared up so many times. Thanks to him and you, Simon, for all you do,
Thanks for the interview with Chris. My absolute favourite UA-camr.
Yep!
Such an amazing life story and a wonderful example of triumph over adversity. It was lovely to listen to you both, thank you
When I found Chris’ channel some months ago I binged on all his videos. They are great.
I agree! I binged on all his videos as well.
Same! I still rewatch some from time to time
We need a club for people like us on Facebook or something. Plant Chompers Chompers or something
Okay I made it 👍
I found his channel about 6 weeks ago and I’m working my way backwards 😁
A phenomenal interview. I have been a subscriber of Plant Chompers from his early days and love the effort Chris puts into his videos. This interview delving into Chris' painful past just makes me admire him even more.
Fascinating stuff!
This is a wonderful interview with two of my favourite nutrition scientists. Conducted with great skill & empathy by Simon. Chris is an amazing person.
Two of the most humble, knowledgeable and brilliant people. You are both so integral in getting evidence based information out there. Thank you both for everything you do!
Whoa, I've been watching Plant Chompers for a while. Never expected to see him on The Proof. Excited to watch this episode!
Definitely appreciate the level of effort and detail of both your channels. Without the hype. Really good episode.
As a plant chomper follower, what an insightful interview. So many new topics. I felt like the interview was an adventure
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that. Enough is enough!
Chris is a very interesting and amazing fellow. Parts of his story are unbelievable.
I know! Even I can't believe them! 🤯 I have to have people who were there confirm it really happened and I wasn't dreaming.
Just an extraordinary person. Much respect and admiration for all his successes, and overcoming near impossible challenges early in life. I'm humbled.
So excited for this! My favourite UA-camr!
Plant chompers is the best, imho most trustworthy channel I follow for nutrition , and still manage to entertain! also really enjoy Simon
Two great guys together im the same show
I just love Chris!! ❤
Thank you so much! Simon caught me completely by surprise with his questions, so somehow he got me to tell stories I don't remember telling in public before. 🤯
Chris is one amazing man!
What a moving start to the interview. The only time we can show real courage is when we are uncomfortable and it seems to me Chris was very courageous in this interview.
And of course Simon is an excellent interviewer.
Yes, he made me very uncomfortable! In a good way. His question often caught me completely by surprise.
This is amazing…. I have to get on conference calls for work, but I’ll be watching this tonight for sure. You guys are amazing. Thanks for all you do.
Best interview, well rounded and complete. Can’t have enough. Thank you
This is absolutely brilliant guys! Only 50 mins in but can’t stop watching, could watch you 2 chat all day! Need more conversations like this one, wish Simon was getting the millions of views he deserves and the world needs🤞🌎💚
. . . A m e n n. . . . . 🥰🥰🥰🥰
OMG!! I just saw It and I cannot be more exited for an episode😳
Honestly two of the best content creators to follow on this platform.
I cannot wait to have a moment to hear you two!
👏👏👏👏 Thank you Simon and Chris! Can’t wait to listen to this!!!
FINDING THIS JUST MADE MY WHOLE WEEK
What a Journeys. Thanks for sharing it, and thanks for giving back so much.
What a Great interview! Chris is such an inspiration! I'd love to read a biography about him. Please have a sequel to this. There's so much more to cover like the triathlon and entrepreneurial aspects.
I really enjoy listening to Chris talk about other people. So many little details. Such a fun storyteller.
Brilliant interview
Love both of your channels. It's a pleasure to watch such smart, enthusiastic and thoroughly prepared content creators. What an amazing life story and love story Chris has. Fantastic interview, Simon.
Excellent! Thank you, Simon and Chris!
Literally the best interview I have ever seen in this space or any- you two are the best and fairest reviewers of research and I watch a lot-
Absolutely. What a wealth of insight and inspiration.
What a great guy! Can't wait when he comes back.
This is really great, I love Chris so much! I'm jealous too because he knows I wanted to get his story 😂 you guys are amazing
@veganlinked, you have great stuff, too, friend. I watch you along with Simon and Chris. All good guys doing good things in the world. ❤🎉 🌎
@@BowenUSA thank you so much that's so sweet of you! This comment warms my heart ❤️
ASTOUNDED I’ve never heard of Chris before! This episode was FANTASTIC! And I can’t wait to deep dive into Plant Chompers!!!
Excellent conversation. Thourghly enjoyed this from start to finish. Bravo!
Two of my favourite people to listen to when it come to plant based nutrition. Love that you interviewed him Simon!!!
I’ve been on UA-cam for 10 years (not this account 😆) and this is hands down one of the BEST pod casts/videos I’ve seen here. I already really liked Chris but my admiration has gone through the roof. I’m not a geophysicist but so majored in Geology so I really appreciate his story.
I can’t recommend this episode enough, and I recommend The Proof to everyone I know.
Chris like Simon is a straight shooter. What a life story Chris has experienced. Very happy for his success. Great picture of his family. I’m sure a lot of his motivation to do the right thing health wise, environmental wise and steward ship of animals, stems from a deep desire to make our earth a better place for his kids and grandkids and future generations. As a biologist, I also am pleased that he and Simon have a passion and appreciation for great science and the scientists that run well designed studies. Great episode! Thanks Simon
The love story was great!!
Thanks to both of you 😊👍
Thanks for this great interview!!
This interview is in my top 3 this year, and I've seen quite a few so far. Excellent work fellas!
Even though this interview deviated a bit from the topics that generally interest me in the exceptional @theproof podcast series (lifestyle optimization and nutrition) I can honestly say that I have found this particular episode to be one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to (anywhere). Chris is a bright and supremely talented story teller and a charmingly self-deprecating renaissance man. The sort of polymath I have always strived to be (miserably failing so far…) and should be an inspiration for people of any age especially for his huge capacity to continuously learn and if needed change focus and goals. If longevity comes from having a strong purpose you have it dialled in Chris & will be around for a long time ;) Love your youtube channel too @PlantChompers, keep up the great work!
Thank you! I don't know about Simon, but I fretted that I was taking us too far off topic from nutrition. I wasn't sure how people would react... 🤷♂
@@PlantChompers it was wide ranging indeed but very interesting and…. inspirational. Thank YOU 🙌
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that.
@@PlantChompersHi Chris, no need to have fretted, as you never strayed from nutrition in the slightest. You covered off two forms of nutrition.
1. Nutrition to feed the body
2. Nutrition to feed the soul.
What I find remarkable about your Chris is your level of humbleness. It is clear to see that often your stray outside your comfort zone (both in this interview and on Plant Chompers) e.g. your body language such as when you touch your glasses. Yet you carry on because due to altruistic reasons.
Thanks for all you do to try to make the world a better place. 👍 Regards Glenn
Wow my two favorite ppl doing a podcast. can’t wait to digest this all 💪
This was such a profound interview and so heartfelt. Thank you both so much.
I wish so much that what we eat wasn’t so political. Just listen to scientists and do what’s best for your body, but don’t forget to take care of our planet.
Two of my favorite smart guys! 🎉
What a fantastic interview with Chris MacAskill. I am forwarding this interview to friends and family, and to social media. I absolutely love the work BOTH of you do; your kindness, empathy and meticulous attention to legitimate scientific data set you apart from so, so many in the field. I have only recently discovered you, Simon, but will be going back over all your prior interviews as well as looking forward to new episodes. I have been following Chris MacAskill for over a year already, and always look forward to your carefully crafted videos. Profuse thanks to you both for all you do!!! Sending links for "Plant Chompers" and "The Proof" to everybody I know.
Thank you! 😁
I’m so excited! I love Plant Chompers! Chris does amazing work! This is my first time on this channel, but I looked at the other videos and I’m excited to find another creator doing health related content!
Love hearing the origin story of Mr. Chomper. Dealing with the horrible trauma the way he did is inspiring. In the psych literature it's not called PTSD which tends to refer to a single event but C-PTSD (complex-PTSD).
Interesting! I didn't know that.
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that. Enough is enough!
Thank you for this wonderful interview with Chris! I have been watching Plant Chompers for a few months and often wondered about Chris’ life and career.
Please write a book! This story deserves to be told. So many great stories and history. Chris is an awesome human being.
My son's friend went from dropout destined for jail to being an engineer.
He put it down to the private boarding school he went to that made him sit at a desk for 2 hours each night. The school did not care what he did, but he had to stay at the desk for the 2 hours. He said that is why he began to study and focus.
His mother was a single mum who knew she could not give the guidance he needed. He needed strong male guidance. So she worked her butt off and sacrificed to give her son and the guidance and the learning environment he needed.
There has to be a lesson in that somewhere .... sitting at a desk for 4 hours made me think of that.
... I also think being a mother is the most important role in any society, it is also the least valued in the 'west'.
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that.
Fantastic episode! Thank you to both Chris & Simon! 🙂
My two favorite nutrition UA-camrs together. Thank you for doing this. Keep up the great work!!
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that. Enough is enough!
I learned how creative, interesting and knowledgeable Chris is. Thank you , Simon for doing this in depth interview. Excellente!!
This is the first time I have heard/seen either of you. I am so impressed!
Chris's message is so powerful and proves our country is full of geniuses like him...many totally unaware of their potential. Thanks to you both!
I have been waiting for this for a long time!
Really touching episode Simon, you have such a great interviewing style that creates a safe and welcoming space for people to openly share. Love it ❤
That was brilliant! Please do another one. Chris is such an inpirational person.
I got an epiphany from something Simon said during this interview, and in my next episode I'm gonna talk about it. 👏
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that.
very insightful. Ive been a fan of Chris and plant chompers for about 2-3 months now, and its great to get the inside scoop.
Funny enough most of what I have thought about plant based diets are intuitively being proven correct, and productions like Plant Chompers are part of that.
Simon, I watched this again today. It is so good! Chris is so humble. He's one of my favorites as no one goes to the depths he does on research.
Such a lovely and brilliant guy
I loved this interview and could not stop watching in almost one go!
I really appreciate the work of both of you.
Thank you Chris for all the book references. They are a huge help building my reading list.
one of the best talks i've seen on these topics. i love how Simon is creating a less staged agenda for Chris whose videos, although brilliant, are sometimes a bit too constrained. i love the looser conversation. this is just great work!
What a great episode. Thankyou.
Thank you! This episode was awesome, I started earlier this year trying to get all my ducks in a row with health and fitness after covid, and also after my dad was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes earlier this year. I noticed the UA-cam algorithm pushed me towards the keto / carnivore they seemed to pop up whenever I would search a topic, but I ended up finding gils channel thank God which lead me to Plant Chompers, and your channel Simon, and my eyes have really been opened, being raised in Wisconsin the dairy state, meat is like a commandment almost. But switching to a plant based mediterranean diet and slowly kind of testing the waters of vegan, those being so out of the norm you guys have really been insightful and have given me allot of information and hope to better my family's and my own health appreciate everything you guys do. Keep the episodes coming!!!!!
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that.
Plant Chompers brought me to this channel. If Chris thinks you are doing a good job I will stay a while and watch a few. This was a very interesting interview.
Brilliant - absolutely brilliant! Thank you both - sincerely - this video rightly took priority over everything else: roller coaster of amazing facts, history and personal insights - wonderfully interviewed Simon and pure treasure from Chris. 👍
You both are amazing in what you do. Such a treat to listen to Chris MacAskill's amazing journey. I love how he communicates and the level of research he does. Thank you for interviewing him and may his channel grow as I truly believe his content should be consumed by EVERYONE.
Plant Chompers flipped the vegan switch for me. Thank you for this interview. I have a lump in my throat and I'm no good with converting emotion to words.
You can't get Taurine as a Vegan, and if you supplement it from meat you're a cheater!
Amazing, Chris! Thank you.
Fantastic interview! What an inspiring, interesting life Chris has led. I'm so thankful he has landed on nutrition as his passion or I likely would not have heard his story. Thank you; I enjoyed the whole thing!
Two of the best.
What a wonderful interview. Love Plant Chompers!
What an amazing interview. The truth in this is fantastic
This is the most fascinating and informative interview I’ve ever watched ! (and I’ve watched a lot of UA-cam!). Chris’s life is really unbelievable - he is truly following his highest purpose. ❤️ Thank you for this long-form interview!
We must resist them at any cost. We know they don't want people to be healthy and do KETO diets. They are just using the environment as an excuse. I saw a video about celebrities using their private jets 170 days out of the year. They don't care about that. China gets to build more and more coal plants, they don't about that. It would take even more energy to farm bugs, but they won't tell you about that. Enough is enough!
This was a superb interview. Like pretty much everyone hunting for a "better expert," I stumbled upon Chris via UA-cam binging and I just knew I'd hit something special with him. Thanks for this deep-dive - it was fascinating as always.
One of the best podcast episodes, I’ve ever heard. Chris’ story is captivating and heartfelt. I teared up throughout. New to Simon’s podcast and now Chris’ Plant Chomper, I am an instant fan. Thank you both for this fantastic interview.
Simon one of your best video's. I so love Plant Chompers & never realized this about Chris's past. Eye opening stuff I never new about in such great detail. Thank you.
I've been following Plant Chompers for a while. First time I've seen Simon Hill. Though it was interesting to hear about Chris's background, it's what he brings to the table in his videos that is so great. He does excellent work.
Amazing interview of an amazing, full of adventure, struggles, failures, and successful life… 👏
I love Chris! He seems to be such a nice, cool person. :)
6:21 - I SO APPRECIATE YOUR LEVEL OF RESEARCH!!!!! I’ll wait forever for your next episode and watch what you put out Chris. I can’t thank you enough.Namaste 🙏🏽 🌱 ❤
I was spellbound for the entire episode. Knowing more of the backstory amplifies my appreciation for the work and the person. Thanks!!
I really like this episode, i highly respect him, congratulation on this episode Simon.
Great episode. Chris is a great story teller an fact checker. Thanks Simon for your episodes. Much appreciated. I am a practicing physician in Canada who has tried to promote healthy lifestyle including nutrition for 20+ years . Your episodes are much appreciated.