Actually, with what happens in TLJ, and the revelation that Palpatine was Snoke... this is obviously some deliberate reverse psychology manipulation going on. He tells Kylo Ren to kill Rey because he doesn't want Kylo to know that he wants her there alive. Palpatine knows Kylo Ren won't kill her.
The movie would’ve been 50x better if: -Anakin’s force ghost came to turn Ben Solo to the light side -Anakin and Luke’s force ghost appeared in the final battle -Showed how Palpatine survived in the form of flashbacks.
Needed even more work than that the movie undermines vaders sacrifice, and the whole Mary Sue, very little if any character development....and so much more
Heidi Fedor In JJ Abrams Director Cut he actually managed to have the forced ghosts of the main Jedi inspire Rey but Disney said it was too long and cut it from the film, there was also an emotional scene with kylo ren which they also cut from the film
Their logo is one of the multitude of media outlet logos that are seen zipping by in the latest Star Wars tv trailer. These are the media sources the trailer cites as having praised the Rise of the Skywalker. Either Disney desperately scooped up every media logo they could find or like the cast of the actual movie everyone's doing a 180 and turning against the film...
Yeah didn't he explode in the reactor core when he was thrown. And wouldn't ray be the same age as luke, if not older. Because he would have had a family before he was changed by the darkside
Screen Rant - "Not everything in the Star Wars universe has to be guided by the force". Literally Star Wars "The Force flows through every living being in the universe. It speaks to us, it guides us, and without it nothing would exist".
@@speedyplayz23 I concur! And it's a blatantly obvious and cheaply made "you can clearly see the zipper up the back and all the stitching has already begun to fail" costume of a disguise!
My thoughts exactly when I heard that. Pretty idiotic statement that misses the entire point of a major premise that the whole Star Wars story depends upon
I think at the end Rey should have said she was Rey Palpatine to show that the name now stands for good and not evil. Also Ben Solo's ghost should have appeared.
To me it made more sense for her to choose the name of skywalker, as her choosing the name skywalker fits with her whole theme of idenity though she chose who she is and not the emporer or kylo or anyone, she is who she is. Also it could be her honouring their legacy and keeping it alive.
"He kissed Rose" what do you mean "he kissed Rose" he most certainly did NOT "kiss Rose" SHE kissed HIM, and by the looks of it it wasn't exactly welcome.
I would say not so much unwelcome as completely unexpected and a bit baffling. Finn obviously hadn't been thinking of her in those terms, and he was taken aback to realize she thought of him romantically. They probably had a talk off-camera between movies where Finn explained he thought of her as a friend and compatriot. I get the impression that Finn wasn't in love with Rey, either, but she was his very first friend *ever* and he *needed* her, and then after her Poe, to give him something familiar to hold on to in this strange new world he's suddenly living in, after the regimented and restricted and *brainwashed* life he'd lived up until then! (Also note that the actor who plays Finn ships Finn/Poe ;-)
Umm...they did film a ghost Jedi scene with Ewan McGregor, Samuel L Jackson, and Hayden Christensen. Rumor is, Kathleen Kennedy decided against using this in the final edit because she felt it would take away from Rey. That’s right, having far more interesting characters would take away from the main protagonist of this mess of a trilogy.
ArynCrinn yes I would be happy to! Anakin is an extension of some part of Lukas personality. It’s no accident he gave his name to Luke Skywalker. He didn’t chose these actors lightly! If he didn’t like someone, he could have changed it. He could have changed anyone . He’s the writer director!
As someone who actually likes the sequel trilogy (and someone who's Star Wars film is the Rise of Skywalker), I have to say, the whole reason of Disney buying Star Wars, is that they can get more money. That's pretty much why the Knights of Ren only live to be in distance shots (oh, and to be slaughtered by Kylo Ren at the end of the movie).
I tolerated everything except how they dealt with Kylo and Rey at the end of the movie. Ben is the only Skywalker with the ability to "rise" and the fact that you can choose to be "good or bad" has literally been Canon since the first trilogy. We didn't need that message all over again.
@@Zoofa188_Qe watch the deleted scenes. Rian Johnson had several great scenes with him, but unfortunatly Canto Bite was more important to the director and his writers.
@@archangelrsr1326 Canto Bite is pretty important though... even if just for Finn's character progression. He needed some experience to take him from the guy who was only interested in saving Rey at the end of TFA, to someone who cared for and believed in the mission of the Resistance. That's where the juxtaposition of Rose and DJ came into play. He needed both.
I really thought that palpatine's force ghost was going to turn Rey to the dark side and then disappear forever. Then the next trilogy would be about Ben solo, finn and Poe trying to redeem her.
Its a good movie. To bad abrams didnt do ep8. Otherwise we had an awesome trilogy. Now ep8 is fucked up. Ans ep 9 is 8 and 9 in one. Still very good movie. Its just you dont get any rest. Even when they go somewhere, you don't see them travel. Its " lets go " and the next scene they are there. I enjoyed it.
How bout "10 things that should have been different in THE LAST JEDI"?! 1. Luke should have lived 2. Leia should have died 3. Rey gets actual training from luke 4. A time leap of a year or 2 5. Snoke lives 6. First order origins explained 7. Better explanation for Ben turning to Dark Side 8. No Kanto Bite. Period. 9. No Huldo or Rose 10. Rey developed a personality 11. Fin is force sensitive and begins exploring that 12. Poe gets a story 13. Rey turns to the Dark Side with Kylo and Snoke, just as Luke loses hope he discovers Fin. I couldn't keep it to just 10, that's just off top of my head
@@jorgelujlrcn It's 2020 and some people are still annoyed because of the Ewoks in RotJ. Why do YOU care so much? Does the fact ppl have different opinions than you bother you that much?
All of the Jedi inspiring Rey reminded me of the beginning of the movie when Palpatine is saying he is all of the voices in Kylo's head. While this happens, the voices are changing to a lot of Sith like Darth Vader and Snoke
Tony Jove it’s the same as telling us that we are sexist for not liking Rey or Holdo. They label the group as something that only applies to a select few. They also use the labels as an excuse for making bad movies by saying if you don’t like them you are a man baby
Again I watched some Pitch Meetings on Sreen Rant and see a recommended video that title lets me think I could like it. And again I see that the whole channel is garbage except the Pitch Meetings.
He was in the background throughout the entire sequel trilogy (Vader's mask, Anakin's saber, Ben's recapitulation of Anakin's story from Mustafar to Endor, etc.)
Rose was one of the most irreverent characters in the franchise. She's a background character from the start. JJ was smart to drop her. News flash the trilogy was about Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo not some technician introduced in the middle of the trilogy account of inexperienced writing. She is important to the one movie not the trilogy as a whole and just because people like to swing their political members around doesnt make Rose an essential part of the story as a whole. The story doesnt need a dozen background characters taking up screen time to make the movie an even bigger mess.
@Tong Zou SHE WAS PARTLY MEANT TO CHECK OFF THEIR "ASIAN" BOX, but the joke is on them: RoS will make $20 million TOTAL in China, vs $615 million for Endgame! OUCH! It's over: KK BROKE STAR WARS. She must be fired!
Did you know Finn has a secret? Me: yeah It’s not that he’s in love with Rey Me: well that’s kinda obvious It’s not that he kissed Rose Me: that’s not really a secret Or that he got rose pregnant Me: Well obviu, wait what
The force ghosts of Anakin, Obi Wan, Yoda, Luke, and Mace Windu were ALL supposed to show up when Rey confronts Palpatine, but Kennedy didn't want them in there.
Rey fighting the sith version of herself is the same where Luke fought with who he thought was vader but the face reveal was his own face in the Empire Strikes Back.
Jorge Ramos everything was destroyed the motto of the 2nd movie in the new trilogy was let the past die. They completely shitted on the lore and the whole Skywalker family is now is extinct with palapatine the biggest Sith Lord ever having a descendant that took the Skywalker family name. Complete dogshit
@@jorgelujlrcn "Nothing was destroyed"? Rey's Heroe's journey The Force Lore, as established over 6 Movies the character of Han Solo the character of Luke Skywalker logical and consistent writing the setup done by Episode 7 the story decisions of Episode 8 ALL of the achievements of the Original Trilogy, including the fulfillment of the prophecy to destroy the sith by Anakin, the chosen one, which was (according to George Lucas) the whole point of the previous six movies... Yup, all of those are fine and werent completely and utterly destroyed by the end of the new trilogy, at all... (/s)
@@der_benson4478 NOTHING WAS DESTROYED?? (says liar Jorge) - Rian's SW Trilogy is dead - KK's BIG PLANS for Standalones is DEAD - RIAN J's reputation is DESTROYED. - KK's is DESTROYED too. - JJ's is FOREVER CRIPPLED. ("see! It's NOT destroyed!") - DISNEY LOST OVER A BILLION $ and counting for their hubris in TLJ-gate. (RoS is going to make $20 million TOTAL in China. COMPARE THAT TO ENDGAME... which made $615 million in China. SEE ANY DIFFERENCE?) Disney shareholders could legally SUE for this malpractice.
No we fucked it up, what Disney did wasnt even that bad, we just got pissy about everything and they changed things up to please us This is our fault, not Disneys
@@jorgelujlrcn You really DO have a problem with differing opinions, do you? The (admittedly somewhat over the top) Fandom Menace guys and gals aren't the only ones having a problem with the Disney trilogy... Noticed how George Lucas didn't attend the premiere of TROS?
@@jorgelujlrcn "Bruh, it's 2020 and you're still whining about it? You salty ass fanboys really need to get a life" says the guy posting over 20 responses in this comment section alone... do you get tired of your self owns at some point?
They hid rey from palaptine . 1. For me Drop the kiss, 2. Have R2 back up EVERY thing. 3. Explore more Finns force sensitivity. 4. They did make force ghosts but was cut by disney, its in the JJA cut.
@@jorgelujlrcn imagine bitching about ppl bitching in four (so far) different comments on one video an, on top, being so unimaginative that you use the word "bitching" in three of them...
I was hoping that at the beginning Rey created her own lightsaber and the lightsaber was a “Light Pike” basically a staff with a lightsaber at the end. Would have been a great connection to her past.
My biggest let down was that they didn’t feature Hayden Christensen as a force ghost. To not only help Rey or Ben but to even guide his son Luke with Yoda in the last Jedi. In the original three movies force ghosts are are in all three in physical form. We only saw force ghost Yoda in the last Jedi.
Kelly Marie Tran did NOT deal with bullying or harassment. She dealt with criticism that she's too emotionally fragile to handle so she played the victim and cried about it.
"The Rise of Skywalker did a major disservice to Rose"? "One of the most irrelevant characters in the movie. Absent for most of it." You could say the same thing about "The Last Jedi," minus the "absent" part. She might have been a good character if they wrote her better, but she really didn't bring anything I found interesting to Last Jedi. I was hoping she'd get a chance to work with better material in ROS, but I blame the disservice on the previous movie. Also, defeating the Knights of Ren was super easy, barely an inconvenience. Oops, wrong video. 😅 Not giving Obi-Wan more than a 2-second audio was also a major fumble. Didn't have to be a lot, but should have been something more than what we got.
I would have liked Kylo to stay in character after his redemption: I hoped for him using his Knights of Ren against Palpatine, maybe even aiding the Resistance in their dogfight with the Sith fleet. He never was a Sith and always saw Palpatine as a danger for his political power. This is even stated in the introduction! Being more or less on the light side of the Force doesn't make him a Jedi and has nothing to do with his role as grandmaster of the Knights. His personal philosophy, which was presented in Episode VIII, wouldn't even have to change one bit as to him Jedi, Sith, the republic and the old empire don't matter at all. It would have been fun to see Rey turning darker and joining him and him being less bitter and less of a tyrant. They could have established a new order/government after defeating the Sith army: Less brutal than the Empire or the First Order, but more united, centralized and militarized than the Republic.
I agree with most of it except for Rose. Why is everyone so hurt about her character. I mean c'mon, this is Star Wars. She shouldve been happy to just have a small role, period.
Vader was in the background the entire time: Vader's mask, Anakin's saber, the way in which the Emperor tempted Ben and Rey just as he tempted Anakin. At the end of Rise of Skywalker, Ben was finally able to take up Anakin's saber (which wouldn't come to him at the end of TFA) once he *really* took up Anakin's path (redemption, healing, etc.)
I'm so glad I decided to unfurl my sails and hit the high seas to watch this movie. I laughed the entire way through it and I think I would have been quite distracting had I actually been in a theater... This movie was hysterical! Best comedy of the year 2019.
That's a really terrible idea. Let's make the female protagonist, who's done nothing but good, suddenly evil, so the guy who killed Han Solo can kill her as well, and become suddenly good. Really?
@@Siansonea Did you watch this terrible movie? Kylo was the only Skywalker left. Rey (MaRey Sue) was a palpatene. She was poorly written and had no story Arc. Kylo was at least a fully developed character.
Palpatine to Kylo Ren:
"Kill the girl. I need her alive."
Hahaha
Also Palpatine: Strike me down and take your place on the throne!
Edits, re shoots, Disney marketing, agendas. 🙄
Yeah that was confusing...
Actually, with what happens in TLJ, and the revelation that Palpatine was Snoke... this is obviously some deliberate reverse psychology manipulation going on.
He tells Kylo Ren to kill Rey because he doesn't want Kylo to know that he wants her there alive.
Palpatine knows Kylo Ren won't kill her.
The movie would’ve been 50x better if:
-Anakin’s force ghost came to turn Ben Solo to the light side
-Anakin and Luke’s force ghost appeared in the final battle
-Showed how Palpatine survived in the form of flashbacks.
Yeah. And Ben was the one to kill Palps.
Also when all the other force ghosts show up on tatooine
Needed even more work than that the movie undermines vaders sacrifice, and the whole Mary Sue, very little if any character development....and so much more
Ah, yes. Anakin
If Anakin have talked to Luke insted of Yoda in the Last jedi 👍
It only needs 2 changes
1. All the characters
2. The entire plot
3. The Name
4. Keep the Skywalker bloodline alive and not the palpatines
6. And bring back george
I think Ben and Anakin should have shown up at the end, unless Ben became one with Rey when he gave her his life force.
Heidi Fedor In JJ Abrams Director Cut he actually managed to have the forced ghosts of the main Jedi inspire Rey but Disney said it was too long and cut it from the film, there was also an emotional scene with kylo ren which they also cut from the film
@@ilmarsbelevics I'd rather Ben was the grandpa of Rey instead of Palpatine.
@@tsuyoi-hikari Fake rumour mongers like Mike Zeroh I imagine.
@@ilmarsbelevics Anakin was a child of the force. FORCE BABY
Can't take away the character building🙄😩 from Mary Sue!😱
"We're on to you Disney"
"Also, make sure to get Disney plus it is AMAZING"
I just saw this same comment
Yeah, WTF was that?
If it wasn't so shameful it'd be amusing.
Screen Rant: “We’re watching your Disney”
Also Screen Rant: “Disney plus is the streaming service...”
Watchers: "We're on to you, Screen Rant, of your ability to be onto yourself and others."
Their logo is one of the multitude of media outlet logos that are seen zipping by in the latest Star Wars tv trailer. These are the media sources the trailer cites as having praised the Rise of the Skywalker. Either Disney desperately scooped up every media logo they could find or like the cast of the actual movie everyone's doing a 180 and turning against the film...
Lol yeah I love the irony
Go eagles!
Ruth Keiling wings up!
Knights of Ren were a huge joke
More like the knights that say NI!
Palpatine shouldn’t have been alive. End of video.
But, but Star Wars Legends! 😉
@@ragnardanneskjold7259
Ah but Canon lol 😂
Disney is really Epstein Island 😂😂😂
They could have done something. A clone he transferred his mind into maybe? How does he survive the Deathstar blowing up?
Ah yes
Yeah didn't he explode in the reactor core when he was thrown. And wouldn't ray be the same age as luke, if not older. Because he would have had a family before he was changed by the darkside
Screen Rant - "Not everything in the Star Wars universe has to be guided by the force".
Literally Star Wars "The Force flows through every living being in the universe. It speaks to us, it guides us, and without it nothing would exist".
I think screen rant is Mickey mouse in disguise
@@speedyplayz23 I concur! And it's a blatantly obvious and cheaply made "you can clearly see the zipper up the back and all the stitching has already begun to fail" costume of a disguise!
Mickey mouse didnt understand much about star wars so it's a good theory
My thoughts exactly when I heard that. Pretty idiotic statement that misses the entire point of a major premise that the whole Star Wars story depends upon
Screen Rant-Were on to you to Disney
Also screen rant- gets sponsored by Disney
We're*
"Fun new character" Scrren Rant was just bought by Disney.
Well, they did advertise Disney plus at the end lol
I think at the end Rey should have said she was Rey Palpatine to show that the name now stands for good and not evil. Also Ben Solo's ghost should have appeared.
i want to know how he just knows how to become one with the dorce🤣🤣🤣
To me it made more sense for her to choose the name of skywalker, as her choosing the name skywalker fits with her whole theme of idenity though she chose who she is and not the emporer or kylo or anyone, she is who she is. Also it could be her honouring their legacy and keeping it alive.
For real that would have made sense with the whole “don’t be afraid of who you are” thing
,...yeah, recently saved Anakin got to come back at the end as a ghost, so where's Ben?
I think she should have chosen her own unique last name.
"He kissed Rose" what do you mean "he kissed Rose" he most certainly did NOT "kiss Rose" SHE kissed HIM, and by the looks of it it wasn't exactly welcome.
I would say not so much unwelcome as completely unexpected and a bit baffling. Finn obviously hadn't been thinking of her in those terms, and he was taken aback to realize she thought of him romantically. They probably had a talk off-camera between movies where Finn explained he thought of her as a friend and compatriot. I get the impression that Finn wasn't in love with Rey, either, but she was his very first friend *ever* and he *needed* her, and then after her Poe, to give him something familiar to hold on to in this strange new world he's suddenly living in, after the regimented and restricted and *brainwashed* life he'd lived up until then! (Also note that the actor who plays Finn ships Finn/Poe ;-)
Umm...they did film a ghost Jedi scene with Ewan McGregor, Samuel L Jackson, and Hayden Christensen. Rumor is, Kathleen Kennedy decided against using this in the final edit because she felt it would take away from Rey. That’s right, having far more interesting characters would take away from the main protagonist of this mess of a trilogy.
They named their son Ben!
Obi Wan was included like that
What about how the omitted Anakin? They even refuse to say it's his lightsaber Rey's been hauling around
JJ is not a fan of the prequels. It was probably hard enough to get him to include Hayden's voice.
Nighthawk5015 yes I am so disappointed!
ArynCrinn Untrue
Anakin is an extension of himself. He created him he could have gotten someone one else
@@elainenagano9829 Could you rephrase that?
ArynCrinn yes I would be happy to! Anakin is an extension of some part of Lukas personality. It’s no accident he gave his name to Luke Skywalker. He didn’t chose these actors lightly! If he didn’t like someone, he could have changed it. He could have changed anyone . He’s the writer director!
The helmet talking to Kylo was Palpatine. They explained that if you paid attention
As someone who actually likes the sequel trilogy (and someone who's Star Wars film is the Rise of Skywalker), I have to say, the whole reason of Disney buying Star Wars, is that they can get more money. That's pretty much why the Knights of Ren only live to be in distance shots (oh, and to be slaughtered by Kylo Ren at the end of the movie).
Limiting Rose Tico’s time is something they got right in this movie.
How is this not the top comment
Amen!
#1: Considering you spent 4 billion dollars, have an actual plan for a new trilogy.
You don't need a plan when you can make garbage movies and still rake in billions
I tolerated everything except how they dealt with Kylo and Rey at the end of the movie. Ben is the only Skywalker with the ability to "rise" and the fact that you can choose to be "good or bad" has literally been Canon since the first trilogy. We didn't need that message all over again.
Rose was one of the most irrelevant characters in The Last Jedi...along with Finn, Captain Phasma, and Po
finn was such a wasted opportunity. his background is great it just goes nowhere
@@Zoofa188_Qe watch the deleted scenes. Rian Johnson had several great scenes with him, but unfortunatly Canto Bite was more important to the director and his writers.
The phasma scene would have actually gave Finn some character development
@@Zoofa188_Qe his hair has had a more interesting character arc than he has
@@archangelrsr1326 Canto Bite is pretty important though... even if just for Finn's character progression.
He needed some experience to take him from the guy who was only interested in saving Rey at the end of TFA, to someone who cared for and believed in the mission of the Resistance. That's where the juxtaposition of Rose and DJ came into play. He needed both.
Rose was a "fun new character" HA! That's a good one 👌.
Do people actually like rose?
No
I almost puke in my mouth when I heard that...
Liam Murtaugh I hope they said that as a joke.
bro WTF how could he even say that... everyone hated Rose
Everyone is happy Rose had limited screen time. Her character was.... annoying at best
Nothing against her and sorry she went through all that harassment, but her character wasn't really that interesting anyway.
Def writers’s fault, not the actress. Fans can be terrible too
It was hard to respect your ability for critical thinking after saying Rose needed a bigger role
R.I.P Dr Luke Manhattan Skywalker 2019
Bobby selman ?
Double Kill?
@@ItsJustMilo Its me!
@@CinemaRescored Two blue birds.... one comment!
I really thought that palpatine's force ghost was going to turn Rey to the dark side and then disappear forever. Then the next trilogy would be about Ben solo, finn and Poe trying to redeem her.
That would have just been a rip off of the Dark Empire story line.
@@Dad_a_Monk what's that
Are you freakin nuts?
Y'all have been Disneyed !
Haven’t seen the movie but I’m glad to hear Rose had a small part in this one. She’s the jar jar binks of the new trilogy.
I'm pretty sure jar jar is better
She has, like, 5 lines.
Its a good movie. To bad abrams didnt do ep8. Otherwise we had an awesome trilogy. Now ep8 is fucked up. Ans ep 9 is 8 and 9 in one. Still very good movie. Its just you dont get any rest. Even when they go somewhere, you don't see them travel. Its " lets go " and the next scene they are there. I enjoyed it.
No she wasn't.
Bro he said palpatine should have manifested in reys body so she’d become evil. THAT WAS LITERALLY HIS PLAN
How bout "10 things that should have been different in THE LAST JEDI"?!
1. Luke should have lived
2. Leia should have died
3. Rey gets actual training from luke
4. A time leap of a year or 2
5. Snoke lives
6. First order origins explained
7. Better explanation for Ben turning to Dark Side
8. No Kanto Bite. Period.
9. No Huldo or Rose
10. Rey developed a personality
11. Fin is force sensitive and begins exploring that
12. Poe gets a story
13. Rey turns to the Dark Side with Kylo and Snoke, just as Luke loses hope he discovers Fin.
I couldn't keep it to just 10, that's just off top of my head
Man. Now we need a reboot, for Disney's attempted relaunch.
Exactly!!! Especially since TLJ is the main reason this movie got screwed over.
I agree with all of that !
Rose was a fun new character of the Trilogy?
*lol*
I agree. Her character was meaningless throughout the whole series.
It's 2020. Y'all should really get over her already.
@@jorgelujlrcn LOL Dude, this is the US, and he has a right to comment on it. You don't have to listen.
@@jorgelujlrcn It's 2020 and some people are still annoyed because of the Ewoks in RotJ.
Why do YOU care so much? Does the fact ppl have different opinions than you bother you that much?
@@der_benson4478 Jar-Jar haters should be thankful Gungans weren't featured in the new sequels.
Rose Tico a FUN NEW CHARACTER??? ROFLMAO....
We must all act as 1! We are not alone! Rose, stay back & review the plans! 😁
1. The Last Jedi shouldn’t have run Star Wars off the rails and painted the trilogy into a corner.
ALSO, half the planet COULD'VE COME UP WITH INTELLIGENT SOLUTIONS to EVERY PROBLEM RIAN left Jar Jar Abrams with!
All of the Jedi inspiring Rey reminded me of the beginning of the movie when Palpatine is saying he is all of the voices in Kylo's head. While this happens, the voices are changing to a lot of Sith like Darth Vader and Snoke
Heads up it wasn't only bullies that hated the rose character. Should the rest of us suffer so as to stick it to a load of trolls?
Tony Jove it’s the same as telling us that we are sexist for not liking Rey or Holdo. They label the group as something that only applies to a select few. They also use the labels as an excuse for making bad movies by saying if you don’t like them you are a man baby
Again I watched some Pitch Meetings on Sreen Rant and see a recommended video that title lets me think I could like it.
And again I see that the whole channel is garbage except the Pitch Meetings.
BlackieLeone lol same I just went to Ryan George’s channel
Yes... Very much so
Forget Rose. She was a traitor to the rebels or a double agent for the First Order. I can't believe she's still among the rebels undiscovered.
R.I.P Ben Solo - 2019
We hardly knew ye.
Can't be 2019 as it all happened
"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..."
Missing Anakin Skywalker as well.
He was in the background throughout the entire sequel trilogy (Vader's mask, Anakin's saber, Ben's recapitulation of Anakin's story from Mustafar to Endor, etc.)
Rose was one of the most irreverent characters in the franchise. She's a background character from the start. JJ was smart to drop her. News flash the trilogy was about Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo not some technician introduced in the middle of the trilogy account of inexperienced writing. She is important to the one movie not the trilogy as a whole and just because people like to swing their political members around doesnt make Rose an essential part of the story as a whole. The story doesnt need a dozen background characters taking up screen time to make the movie an even bigger mess.
Kevin W. Clark this
@Tong Zou SHE WAS PARTLY MEANT TO CHECK OFF THEIR "ASIAN" BOX, but the joke is on them: RoS will make $20 million TOTAL in China, vs $615 million for Endgame! OUCH!
It's over: KK BROKE STAR WARS. She must be fired!
You can't say that Disney is just using characters as a marketing ploy and then promote their streaming service
Did you know Finn has a secret?
Me: yeah
It’s not that he’s in love with Rey
Me: well that’s kinda obvious
It’s not that he kissed Rose
Me: that’s not really a secret
Or that he got rose pregnant
Me: Well obviu, wait what
LOL! I was like, Rose pregnant??? When did that happen? Episode 8.5: a Rose Tico Story?
He never got to tell rey that hes marrying po. And that she was invited to their wedding.
The force ghosts of Anakin, Obi Wan, Yoda, Luke, and Mace Windu were ALL supposed to show up when Rey confronts Palpatine, but Kennedy didn't want them in there.
And have Anakin fight Palpatine
Rey fighting the sith version of herself is the same where Luke fought with who he thought was vader but the face reveal was his own face in the Empire Strikes Back.
That’s how I saw the scene. 🙂
Would have been even better if Luke said suck on that Yoda when he raised the xwing
There's only 1 thing they needed to change: Everything.
your opinion is invalid. Thanks for playing.
Delete ep8
I still liked the movie, believe me it had some issues but I still liked it
Same .
10 times better than the last Jedi
Definitely
One thing the should've changed in the new trilogy: the director.
The artwork and music were flawless, but the direction destroyed the franchise.
Nothing was destroyed, so stop bitching
The music sucked, at this point hearing the same damn theme music has gotten stale and outdated they should come up with something new.
Jorge Ramos everything was destroyed the motto of the 2nd movie in the new trilogy was let the past die. They completely shitted on the lore and the whole Skywalker family is now is extinct with palapatine the biggest Sith Lord ever having a descendant that took the Skywalker family name. Complete dogshit
@@jorgelujlrcn "Nothing was destroyed"?
Rey's Heroe's journey
The Force Lore, as established over 6 Movies
the character of Han Solo
the character of Luke Skywalker
logical and consistent writing
the setup done by Episode 7
the story decisions of Episode 8
ALL of the achievements of the Original Trilogy,
including the fulfillment of the prophecy to destroy the sith by Anakin, the chosen one, which was (according to George Lucas) the whole point of the previous six movies...
Yup, all of those are fine and werent completely and utterly destroyed by the end of the new trilogy, at all...
(/s)
@@der_benson4478 NOTHING WAS DESTROYED?? (says liar Jorge)
- Rian's SW Trilogy is dead
- KK's BIG PLANS for Standalones is DEAD
- RIAN J's reputation is DESTROYED.
- KK's is DESTROYED too.
- JJ's is FOREVER CRIPPLED. ("see! It's NOT destroyed!")
- DISNEY LOST OVER A BILLION $ and counting for their hubris
in TLJ-gate. (RoS is going to make $20 million TOTAL in China. COMPARE THAT TO ENDGAME... which made $615 million in China. SEE ANY DIFFERENCE?) Disney shareholders could legally SUE for this malpractice.
its dead let it die BABY YODA IS THE WAY
Rose was big in the last Jedi and BARELY IN the rise of Skywalker!!! Well, JAR JAR was big in episode one and Bérault in the sequels LOL
The entire trilogy should have been different, Disney screws everything it touches.
No we fucked it up, what Disney did wasnt even that bad, we just got pissy about everything and they changed things up to please us
This is our fault, not Disneys
Just Star Wars, everything else is good.
If you people believe Disney is innocent or anything good then you are delusional.
@@panpan1287 That's like blaming a restaurant customer for disliking the steaming plate of horse manure you just served him.
Is there evidence that Disney interfered with Lucasfilm's plans as a studio? (Kathleen Kennedy was appointed by Lucas, etc., etc.)
so where were these lists for the last jedi
RandomGamerCory Things that should have been removed from The Last Jedi: “The whole movie”
The Last Jedi was too screwed up to get any recommended fixes. The only recommended fix is to burn it and start over.
I actually liked Leia’s role in Rise of Skywalker
Indeed.
This critique is almost as bad as the movie it's critiquing. Yikes.
1) it should not have been made
Spoken like a salty bitch boy snowflake from the Fandom Menace 😂
@@jorgelujlrcn You really DO have a problem with differing opinions, do you?
The (admittedly somewhat over the top) Fandom Menace guys and gals aren't the only ones having a problem with the Disney trilogy...
Noticed how George Lucas didn't attend the premiere of TROS?
No.1 the full movie
Bruh, it's 2020 and you're still whining about it? You salty ass fanboys really need to get a life.
@@jorgelujlrcn "Bruh, it's 2020 and you're still whining about it? You salty ass fanboys really need to get a life"
says the guy posting over 20 responses in this comment section alone... do you get tired of your self owns at some point?
Give us JJs 3:02 cut. Or better yet, his 4 hr cut. That’s all I want! Oh and the final ghosts were shot and...cut...like so much else!
They hid rey from palaptine . 1. For me Drop the kiss, 2. Have R2 back up EVERY thing. 3. Explore more Finns force sensitivity. 4. They did make force ghosts but was cut by disney, its in the JJA cut.
All force ghost Jedis should of had an epic battle scene with all the Sith like darth maul and General grievous
Patrick Pham Grievous wasn’t a sith
@@gavinleague7767 he did a good impression of one.
Force ghosting(?) is a light side ability
@@Mike_L. they bent enough rules already. They could have used a Fudge like 'on Exacal Sith can materialise as ghosts'.
Wasn’t the strength of all Jedi inside Rey, while the strength of all sith was in palpatine
Rose never should have been in the movies
Happy 2020, ScreenRant!
-A plug for Screen Rant/PitchMeetings during this clip?
-Oh that's tight!
-Yeah. Barely an inconvenience.
😂😃
Come on Screen Rant, Rose is a lousy character. This video could’ve done without your pandering to Disney.
Imagine bitching about Star Wars in 2020
@@jorgelujlrcn imagine bitching about ppl bitching in four (so far) different comments on one video an, on top, being so unimaginative that you use the word "bitching" in three of them...
@@der_benson4478 Imagine bitching about someone bitching about someone bitching about someone
bitching about someone
bitching in the current year
I concur
Imagine thinking Rose was a “fun, new character “ .
There wasnt enough Rose Tico.......said no one!
I was hoping that at the beginning Rey created her own lightsaber and the lightsaber was a “Light Pike” basically a staff with a lightsaber at the end. Would have been a great connection to her past.
Yes having a visual representation of all the fallen Jedi at the end would have made sense, that’s why Disney didn’t do it
In one breath... "We're on to you, Disney." In another, "Hey, here's an ad for Disney+" We're on to you Screen Rant.
“Rose was a fun new character” Yea ok
My biggest let down was that they didn’t feature Hayden Christensen as a force ghost. To not only help Rey or Ben but to even guide his son Luke with Yoda in the last Jedi. In the original three movies force ghosts are are in all three in physical form. We only saw force ghost Yoda in the last Jedi.
Screen Rant: "See!! I'm not a Disney shill!! Come on guys! Believe me!!!"
Rose sucked as a character, way better she’s a background character.
Kelly Marie Tran did NOT deal with bullying or harassment. She dealt with criticism that she's too emotionally fragile to handle so she played the victim and cried about it.
"The Rise of Skywalker did a major disservice to Rose"? "One of the most irrelevant characters in the movie. Absent for most of it." You could say the same thing about "The Last Jedi," minus the "absent" part. She might have been a good character if they wrote her better, but she really didn't bring anything I found interesting to Last Jedi. I was hoping she'd get a chance to work with better material in ROS, but I blame the disservice on the previous movie.
Also, defeating the Knights of Ren was super easy, barely an inconvenience. Oops, wrong video. 😅
Not giving Obi-Wan more than a 2-second audio was also a major fumble. Didn't have to be a lot, but should have been something more than what we got.
Rose was irrelevant in episode 8 too, she just had more lines
The oldest only 2 droids from ep.1-9, C-3po and R2d2
Rose Tico was integral to the plot? A fun, new character?!😆😆😆 You guys are hilarious! That totally made my day!😂🤣😂🤣
I would have liked Kylo to stay in character after his redemption: I hoped for him using his Knights of Ren against Palpatine, maybe even aiding the Resistance in their dogfight with the Sith fleet. He never was a Sith and always saw Palpatine as a danger for his political power. This is even stated in the introduction! Being more or less on the light side of the Force doesn't make him a Jedi and has nothing to do with his role as grandmaster of the Knights.
His personal philosophy, which was presented in Episode VIII, wouldn't even have to change one bit as to him Jedi, Sith, the republic and the old empire don't matter at all.
It would have been fun to see Rey turning darker and joining him and him being less bitter and less of a tyrant. They could have established a new order/government after defeating the Sith army: Less brutal than the Empire or the First Order, but more united, centralized and militarized than the Republic.
The Jedi ghosts should have just haunted Anakin
I agree with most of it except for Rose. Why is everyone so hurt about her character. I mean c'mon, this is Star Wars. She shouldve been happy to just have a small role, period.
@10:34 "E-win" McGregor. (shudder)
Hahahahahaha that was great!
"It feels like the bullies won" No, everyone won.
Ben should’ve lived
It's just doesn't work without Darth Vader
Facts
Vader was in the background the entire time: Vader's mask, Anakin's saber, the way in which the Emperor tempted Ben and Rey just as he tempted Anakin. At the end of Rise of Skywalker, Ben was finally able to take up Anakin's saber (which wouldn't come to him at the end of TFA) once he *really* took up Anakin's path (redemption, healing, etc.)
How did Rey have a lightsaber when it was destroyed in The Last Jedi?
I'm so glad I decided to unfurl my sails and hit the high seas to watch this movie. I laughed the entire way through it and I think I would have been quite distracting had I actually been in a theater... This movie was hysterical! Best comedy of the year 2019.
Exactly, go in with the same expectations as a fast and the furious movie, or the super mario brothers movie, and you have a solid 3 hours of chuckles
@@Emperor_Palpatine_66 I just sat back and let the hate flow through me. It resulted in a laughing that some would consider... Unnatural.
At this point the top things that need to change have to deal with the corporate management of the Star Wars IP.
The best thing they did was eliminate rose from the movie
Rose was cool, don't be a hater.
@@trapez77 she is worse than jar jar. Saving finn was one of the dummest movie moments ever.
@@xblunttromax Bruh, you just hating cause she's Asian-American
@@jorgelujlrcn "you just hating cause she's Asian-American"
Keep hitting that Straw man, you can defeat him, I believe in you!!
3:34 well they actually did film those bits of dialogue in costume and such so there was no reason not to include them as force ghosts
Totally agreed on the force ghost scene. I thought for sure they'd do that, or at least a Goku/Gohan v Cell type ghost scene. Huge miss.
One thing would have fixed up this new trilogy, not matter how bad it was. Jar Jar Binks. Was there ever a better character in all of movies?
The whole movie because the last jedi was never supposed to happen.
I was hoping Rey would wake up and the films was just a fever dream
“No trilogy is perfect”
(The Lord Of The Rings intensifies)
Rey should have become Evil and Kylo should have become Good. Kylo then kills Rey and "the Skywalker Rises". This is the way.
That's a really terrible idea. Let's make the female protagonist, who's done nothing but good, suddenly evil, so the guy who killed Han Solo can kill her as well, and become suddenly good. Really?
Siansonea Orande LoL right?!? This dude just loves nuts so much
@@Siansonea Did you watch this terrible movie? Kylo was the only Skywalker left. Rey (MaRey Sue) was a palpatene. She was poorly written and had no story Arc. Kylo was at least a fully developed character.
Only a few jedi knew how to project themselves as force ghosts
It's over now and we can forget all about this trilogy and move on to something more worth our time and money.
Toss a coin for your Witcher!
This video is definitely sponsored by Disney+
5:00 witch from bo2 buried. Cant unsee it.
No rose in the movie? Thats a really good thing