2024 Ford Bronco Buyer's Guide for Manual Transmissions
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- The manual transmission is BACK with the launch of the 2024 Ford Bronco. Here are the changes and things you should know before buying.
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0:00 - Intro
2:07 - Ford MT88 Transmission Info
3:19 - Transmission Issues
3:59 - 2.3L EcoBoost Engine
5:11 - Bronco trims
5:52 - 2024 Changes
8:48 - Axle and Transfer Case options
13:26 - Technology Package options
14:50 - Sasquatch package sucks
18:48 - What I would buy
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EDIT- Big Bend now has the rear locking axle option! Video update here:
ua-cam.com/video/CXivaJToetE/v-deo.html
If you want to join the conversation in the forums... check out the following threads:
Bronco6G: www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/2024-bronco-build-and-price-now-live.79540/
Bronco Nation: thebronconation.com/welcome-new-users-start-here-n.8/2024-build-and-price-is-live-t.18972/
The Complete Video Guide series for 2024 Bronco: ua-cam.com/play/PLVmG8Eo83Z5aZqbMwpk_OZ8Td7zHTN7yS.html
@ragnarkon badlands nonsas 7mt here as well (w your rims which I love).. Do you agree that the 4A transfer case no longer comes on the badlands with the sas package? Thats what build and price seems to show?
actually looks like a bug in b&p that others also caught..
I'm a manual or nothing guy. People have asked, "You mean you'd turn down your dream car if it was an automatic." My answer, it can't possibly be my dream car with an automatic.
100%
This statement is more accurate than a laser.
2022 Base Manual Sasquatch was absoulutely the best deal for a very capable factory supported vehicle at that time under 40k.
I learned how to drive stick in my father’s 1997 Honda Accord DE with a 5 speed manual tranny. When I step into a 6 speed for the first time I was so freaked out going into 6th.
Same story. I love the Bronco, and am looking to buy one…but I was only going to do so if it was a manual. Good video, sir.
Totally agree. Wife and I would have never bought Broncos without the manual. Way more forgiving manual than on the last mustang I bought. Totally makes the Bronco a blast to drive. Drove the 6 cyl. It had nice torque, but there is just something about controlling when the shift changes occur.
Great breakdown!
Thanks for the info! Super helpful!
I love the manual transmission
I’ve got the ‘23 badlands manual Lux package and I love the Tech. 360 cam is very handy on a daily basis, parking lot squeezes especially. Also the non Sasquatch Badlands comes stock with genuine 33”tall tires and the Sasquatch 35” only actually measure up to 34”. Making the expensive upgrade even less meaningful. Which trims come with smart door handles, very useful being able to lock or unlock your doors without having to get your keys out.
THANK YOU for all the amazing content!!! I was planning on ordering the Big Bend Sasquatch but after watching this, I think I'm leaning towards the Badlands. On the configuration tool, if I add the Sasquatch to Big Bend, it ends up being more expensive than the Badlands. And a wheel/tire swap won't cost me an arm and a leg to upgrade.
Great video man! I’m considering a Bronco. Like you I wouldn’t even bother if there was no manual transmission. I want the 2 door but also thinking about the 4 door. Things are getting super pricey for a rig to beat around in the woods! If Ford n Jeep aren’t careful they’re gonna force Toyota back into the ring and if they offer up a short wheelbase with manual transmission……game over in my opinion!
Good vid. 🎉 Make more. 😊
I would have ordered in 2023 a manual a year ago. I had to wait till now (spring order bank no manual has me scared). Went with a loaded badlands 2-door. Too bad the colors didn’t get more exciting.
Like you I’m shocked and impressed that they brought the manual back.
Wish high/lux brought the fully digital dash down from the Raptor. Can’t risk possible no manual to wait for 2025 though.
My experience with my Dad's Wildtrak Sasquatch package makes me echo your sentiment about the package in general. You sacrifice quite a bit for that on-road - hwy mileage, tire noise, muted passing power and acceleration, rock chips, etc. Off-road, though, it's great - even on gravel roads, it's very good. But, you can make similar changes to your Bronco for cheaper in time if you wish, and it isn't like you're starting from a bad/compromised place with 33" tires, etc.
I was going to order in '23 - but no manual stopped me, and in fact just ordered a 2 dr Badlands with the 2.3L/7 MT. Seemed the best value to me, which you graphically showed. That it gets the modular bumpers and the Hoss steering rack from the Wildtrak is great for 2024. It is plenty of cash-o, true. But, I cannot wait for it. Thanks for the video - and I enjoy your posts on Bronco 6G as well.
Great channel I’m new to here as I’m researching the Bronco. What kind of soft top is that? Very cool. I’m looking for a two door but am considering the four. Thank you!
Awesome content, going manual myself once prices level out. BTW Magna is a Canadian company. Guh-trag.
Ohhhhhh you're right... good to know!!
Magna Powertrain is American, but the parent company (Magna International) is actually Canadian. Learned something today. 👍
I soooo agree with you! Manual Transmission is the only real driving experience, while automatic is the most boring thing in the world and only useful in some situations. I am so upset one cannot find more vehicles with manual transmission around, as the options are simply going away. If you ask me, all SUVs and pick up trucks in the market (luxury or not) should come standard, with an option for automatic transmission...
I agree. I probably would have bought a Jeep instead of my 2022 black diamond because of the manual transmission even though I'm a Ford guy. I'm on the fence of trading it in for a badlands non sasquatch, but I'm not if it's worth it or not.
Big bend 2024 does offer a rear locking differential even though it shows up weird as $0 in the build online. A fee gets added in another obscure section for about $500.
First, thank you for one of the BEST, no-BS reviews/discussions on the Bronco I've seen. I'm a lifetime Ford loyalist and owner since 1979, but I ^%#} HATE them right now because of what they're doing with the options packages, pricing, and QC issues. It's like they're purposely trying to drive us away (no pun intended).
... I called Ford and spoke to someone in depth about the rear locking differential - I was told the rear locking differential comes automatically with the manual - it's not an option for the automatic. They said the website is misleading but she assured me that manual transmission gets the rear locking differential. So... we'll see! My 2024 has an estimated build start of 1/22/24!
Yay, I can't wait to get my manual 2 door OBX Bronco with the 2.7 v6!!! ;)
Wait can you get the 2.7 with the manual?
@@marcmiddleton2277 nope
I didn't know that they made a stick. I have the outer banks with the 2.3. But I did the 10th speed transmission. That combination should last till the end of time. However, if I knew they had a true manual rather than the push button like I have. I would have gotten the true manual. Then again, I commute in mine in california traffic so i'm happy with what I have. This is good information i'm thinking of building out another one strictly for 4 wheeling
Manual the way to go, man! When I saw this had manual transmission? -- almost peed on myself
Good breakdown of the Sasquatch package. I'm going Badlands without it. Those 35's just aren't that exciting tome.
Black Diamond, manual, soft top, for the rear locker.
My black diamond mid package with the up grade trans is great for my wife that what she drives I also own the cheapest bronco base with no options. Here's a trick with the slippery mode and crawler gear it just about as good as a locker both are on 35s
manual ❤
Sad to see the Black Diamond lose the steelies and not have Advanced 4x4 available (independently, w/o Sasquatch). Glad I got mine before this change.
So glad I got mine already. That said I am jealous of the reinforced steering rack coming to badlands. Not sure my sasquatch package was worth it for $4k, definitely not at 6k. Get a badlands, get the tiny puck lift needed for 35's which is quite affordable. Then watch performance comparisons between wide and skinny tires - weirdly, the "pizza cutters" wind up with bigger contact patch. So don't replace your wheels with wider ones, just get slightly taller tires when the originals wear out.
I’m a fan of pizza cutters! I can’t stand the look of the Sasquatch tires! I’d love to see 35 skinny’s on a Badlands!
@@chrisdakins2010 I'd love to see them on MY badlands - maybe with next year's tax refund
I have 255/85/R16 Toyo Open Country MTs on my Toyota Tacoma and I absolutely love them. Pizza cutters are a fantastic choice for off road use and I'll never go back to wider tires.
My choice was a Wildtrack. I wanted a manual but everything else I wanted on it meant no manual unless I went with a Badlands. My wife wanted leather and I didn’t want an all black interior. Otherwise a Badlands without Sas would have been the ticket. I also was ordering in 20 so the price was astronomically less.
The Sasquatch on Badlands has always been overpriced after year one.
Yup, 100% agree.
Why I skipped it on my 2022 Bronco.
Do these small displacement V6 engines have enough grunt to move these big trucks with 35/37” tires?
Yup! Largely thanks to the transmission/axle gearing and the turbos.
If these had 3.53 axle ratios with naturally aspirated engines and 4/5-speed transmissions like the vehicles of old, it would be REALLY rough to turn those larger 35"/37" tires with displacement this small. But we got 4.70 axle ratios and 7-speed transmissions with turbos.
Worthwhile to note the 5.8L V8 Broncos from the mid-1990s had 205 HP / 325 lb-ft. This 2.3L EcoBoost today has 300 HP / 325 lb-ft. Pretty impressive what you can get out of a 4 cylinder engine these days.
Which top is that? I see you have hardtop on the back but soft for the front/middle, didn’t know that was an option?
Bestop Skyrider.
I have a video for it (linked below). Feel free to skim through it--
ua-cam.com/video/9fZiUACsdGk/v-deo.html
I’ve been looking all over UA-cam and Bronco6G for the crank-in-gear feature for the manual. Supposedly you can start in gear (let’s say C + 4L) with the clutch out using the starter to move the vehicle. Have you ever tried this?
You can!!
I have only ever used it in crawler gear. I don't know if it is limited to crawler gear or it if is available in other gears as well. But I'll find a hill and play around with it... maybe I'll do a video on it too, because there seems to be some confusion about it for those unfamiliar.
If you stall on a hill it'll offer to start in gear, whatever gear you're in, but you have to be on the ball and press "OK" when it offers.
2.3 engine is PLENTY of power, and is safer choice, 2.7 has proven to be garbage. CHAIN, YES, METAL PAN, HELL YES! My 2003 Focus had the PZEV version of the 2.3, reliable as Hell. Metal chain, coil-on-plug, metal pan, aluminum block and head expand at same rate, less likely to blow head gasket. 100% stainless never rust exhaust system, mine had a 150k/15 years emissions warranty.
Update... 2024 Bronco Heritage Edition comes with manual in both two and four door variants. Check it out. Ordering mine soon.
Think there's a typo in your trim differences graphic which for Badlands says "Optional 33" wheels are gone". I think you meant "Optional 17" beadlock wheels".
Hah... dang... good catch.
That's supposed to say "Optional 33-inch _TIRES_ are gone". Previously with the Badlands trim you could order 33-inch Goodyear Territory MTs. Same tire as the Sasquatch package, just in the 33" size rather than the 35" size.
But you are correct, the optional Badlands wheels are gone too, which I honestly forgot about and didn't even put in the graphic.
@@RagnarKon The wheels were gone for a long time on MY23 anyway, so no big deal!
Can you get the manual transmission in the 2-door Wildtrak? Or what is the highest trim level to get the manual transmission?
You can not, the Wildtrak is 2.7L automatic only. The highest trim you can get in the manual is Badlands.
@@RagnarKon Thank you.
Oh shit bro I just saw you’re from Connecticut. I grew up in Shelton. Where are you from?
I’m from AZ, but yeah… living in Connecticut now. Middle-of-nowhere Middlesex County.
F & R lockers with 100:1 crawl ratio 😇
Are the going to make a 6 cylinder manual?
Doubtful.
It's going to ultimately depend on manual transmission sales. As or right now, only 10-15% of people buy manual, so there is very little incentive for Ford to put in the work to add the manual to the 2.7L engine.
The only reason why we got the 2.3L with the manual is because Ford already did the engineering work with the 2.3L on the Mustang, Ranger, etc.
It was never gone...
Up until 2024 order banks opened, you haven't been able to place a new manual transmission order since 2022.
Ford completely stopped accepting orders for the Base trim, Everglades trim, cloth seats, a wheel upgrade for the Badlands trim, and the manual transmission during the 2023 model year. Only existing 2022 carry-over orders were accepted. Ford claimed it was all temporary, but obviously there was a worry that those options would be discontinued completely come 2024 model year.
Turns out all of those options were indeed discontinued _except_ for the Everglades trim, and thankfully... the manual transmission.
fordauthority.com/2023/03/2023-ford-bronco-order-bank-reopening-details-revealed/
Love the God's transmission content! Didn't they make some frame changes to the sasquatch broncos to allow for the bigger tires and suspension though? The price bump is ridiculous, but might be worth it if the actual chassis is different.
Am I the only one that keeps missing 1st? 1st & 3rd are too close together for my preference. Constantly putting into 3rd when I want 1st. Never had this issue on any of my manual Toyotas.
Before I got my transmission replaced, I would constantly miss 2nd gear and somehow end up in 4th when downshifting. Never had an issue with 1st though.
But I will say 1st/2nd gear feels a bit strange until the transmission warms up. I almost want to say it’s got a “crunchy” or “stiff” feeling to it. But the MT-82 in the Mustang had a similar feeling and there’s enough of them out on the road today that I’m not too concerned about it.
@@RagnarKon how invasive was the repair? Have you had the new transmission in cold weather yet?
@@riccorizzo Not yet, here is the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/bW1928gdQmI/v-deo.html
The other way for me, sometimes accidentally downshift to 1st and get a lot more engine braking than I bargained for. Also, I had a problem just 300mi in, in high gear on highway when it happened, mechanic not sure where in the transmission it started because it cascaded so lots of parts replaced under warranty. Took 3 months due to supply shortages at the time, but it's been great ever since.
Too bad they are using a Chinese built Getrag. Getrag madee the garbage dual-clutch for the New Focus, and the garbage 6-manual for the Mustang. BorgWarner/Tremec makes a way better trans. Do they make a 7-speed???
Just build your own off road.
Only way to get a Tremec in a Ford is to buy a Dark Horse Mustang! SMH
That manual in the bronco is the worst , vague feel , TSB’s galore , noisy , over seas made , and has to be paired to a under powered 4 banger, I drove a few and was very unimpressed, wanted to like it , twin turbo high powered 2.7 it is and thank god will never look back , giddy up !!!!
Is it really that underpowered? Maybe for the 4drs but not the 2drs
Sorry, you lost me at the duck.
Heh... it's actually my daughter's duck. Someone at a local Bronco meet-up gave it to her, but she insisted it was a Bronco duck so it lived in the Bronco. And it had to be up front so it could see out the window.
The duck has since disappeared, no idea where it went.