The Bronco impresses me with how well it does. But the jeep just looks so much more poised and in its element. But like you said, the Bronco will do what 90% of people want just fine.
@@dkdanis1340 surprisingly wranglers with the right valving and a Axle truss are extremely well fitted for faster stuff too. The entire jeep speed circuit is based off of it
I wish one of the two could at least build a reliable product. Too much to ask these days I guess. I would buy either in a heartbeat if they had something decent for around $40k and they weren't built to break. F'ing libs blowing the world up over the weak flu screwed the worlds economies for decades. I hope it was worth it to get sleepy Joe in office, because people can't afford to freakin eat much less buy a $80k Jeep/Ford that breaks down at 36,001 miles.
The Bronco seems very capable on 35's. Until they come out with a suspension kit like the RCLT from Marlin Crawler for the Bronco, they should just stop with the 37's and 40's. It's clearly way too much.
@@THEpicND Well the way I look at it is, that driver has a lots of money and wants the baddest bronco out there and as long as he is committed in strengthening the IFS platform I am happy to see the abuse he is putting on the vehicle. Anything that can handle that type of aggressive driving will be bullet proof for the rest of us who will drive more like Kevin using tactical approach versus using force.
You guys are so much fun to watch! I love how Kevin is out here living his best life wheeling regularly and Brittany is always there to cheer him on! Such a blessing that you two have eachother and you share your adventures with us!
Kevin just flat out makes everything look easy. I’m really looking forward to seeing what he does with that Bronco.. this is the best off road channel…………
He’s a VERY good off roader, no doubt. I enjoy a Jeep on 40s with a hemi ax much as the next guy, but I really like watching him drive more basic rigs, if you could call the Bronco that.
Brittany just has a gift for spotting, and beware anyone that doesn’t follow her directions. “driver,driver,driver, the other driver”! “Yeah that’s it”. She is brilliant, whilst operating the camera and recording the whole thing.
Kevin drives like a pro and the machine responds. Most of it is driving to the vehicles strengths, and the damaged vehicles were being driven like they were stolen… another kick ass video, thx guys
I have to say the Jeep looked more poised throughout right out of the box. I am not sold on the IFS on the rocks or even mud where you have to get high wheel spin. Looks fragile when there is a lot of load on it. I am sort of seeing what I expected so far as steering and CV failures. Not saying I won't get one some day like 5 years down the road and used.
Very interesting comparison. What was also interesting was to see the difference in experience levels between Kevin and the other drivers. Not being negative, I would be in the same category level as the other two gentlemen! But clearly makes a difference.
Kevin is the reason there wasn't three broken broncos. He's definitely done a lot more of that driving and is impressive. The driver of the Jeep was good but not at Kevin's level. I've always been a Ford fan but the straight axle and articulation of the Jeep is much better than the bronco. A couple extra features on the Jeep would have made the Jeep driver look as good as Kevin.
The jeep driver did really well. I could tell a bit that they lacked experience, but they followed the spotting perfectly and didn’t panic throttle which kept them safe. Can’t say the same ab the dude in the other two broncos
Very good video. It would be interesting to see Kevin takes the same Obstacle with two different (similar) Vehicles. Right? Plus, it would be good to hear how he felt it was better/worse. Just a thought Light Brite. 🤔
Just got my Bronco last month (finally) and this is teaching me the limits of my vehicle, so I don’t have to go out and test them myself lol. I wouldn’t dare rock crawl like this without experience, but it is fun to watch a pro do it and squeeze all of what the Bronco can do
@@zachariahyager3115 I think the Bronco is going to be a much better domestic competitor for the Tacoma in the overlanding market than the Jeep in the crawler arena.
@@frankw7266 Well yeah it was never going to beat Jeep in crawling but it’s supposed to be a better all around off-road and on. Basically fitting between the Jeep and the 4Runner.
@@abel78750 I mean feel free to have your opinion but it’s clear it can rock crawl and it’s better in sand and basically anything over ten miles an hour. I wouldn’t call that terrible.
The Bronco is very impressive in stock form with little mods! ….almost seems like the modded ones were too big or not set up right for that particular trail!
The Bronco’s IFS seems to also stand for ‘independent front steering’ - The Bronco can definitely cut it on the trail but they really need to get the steering sorted. Other than that, another great video guys 👍🏼
@@ZboeC5 There is a fix for it, the 4600 broncos for ultra4 have figured out the issue already. They havent had any steering issues despite the abuse they go threw when racing.
🤣 So much for ... "We didn't buy this for rock climbing, we bought it for Baja stuff. We haven't been to Baja yet!" ... one week later. (Kev) "Hold my beer, it'll crawl this, we do it all the time in the jeep. This has a shorter wheelbase!"
Tanks to Kev for pointing out that dirt road/fire trail is not “off-roading”… too many car company/reviewers seem to think that anything off pavement or concrete is off road
Kevin is a great driver off-road. He makes the Bronco look much better than a lot of people would. My take on both. I like both! The Bronco is better on the highway. Jeep is better off road. Articulation.....Jeep > Bronco.
I don't rock crawl but I off-road at pretty high speeds and go mudding. So IFS feels MUCH better to me especially going over small whoops/rough trails at 50+mph. I had fun it jeeps, but they break a LOT, but a Bronco with the Sasquatch and the 7spd manual is my off-roader of choice. Obviously doing some power upgrades to the 4cyl but the ones I drove weren't slouches.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this video, and it was even better than I was hoping. Great driving by Kevin and the Jeep driver. This video was also a great example of what happens when you lift an IFS vehicle and allow it to have too much droop, then romp on it.
I have a 2014 JKU Sahara with 3.21 gears with a manual trans and while I haven’t attempted to do anything like these guys are doing here, but I’ve still done things that people told me there’s no way a stock Wrangler is capable of.
I don’t know if you guys ever go back and look at your first few episodes, but just wow!! You’ve come so far. From content to videography to presentation have resulted in the most professional videos ever. This latest has set the bar for comparison videos. Congratulations. I wish you only the best.
First rule of four wheeling, don't trust the spotter. Unless, it's Brittany, you can trust Brittany, she gets it! Great driving, great spotting. I've always appreciated that you guys show you can run hard trails without unnecessarily tearing up a vehicle.
.....exactly what most have been saying in the off-road communities. The Bronco is good but not a Jeep replacement as Ford has marketed it to supposedly be. It simply compares more to the Toyotas and other IFS 4x4's that it does the Jeep. It's like anything. Throw enough money and mods you can make almost anything literally do what others can do easier. That is what you have and it's great for the consumer. Jeep will find ways to improve their SFA's to do as good as they can for speed and handling. Just like Ford will continue to learn and make their IFS as good as they can for rock crawling. In the end I love it. Jeep has already come out with the Recon package, a V8 Wrangler and let's be honest because of Ford pushing back in this market with the Bronco. Who knows, if Ford is serious maybe we get a solid axle version and maybe Jeep eventually offers a IFS Wrangler option.....? Future is awesome and great video. PS: Kevin is an incredible driver, but Brittany is hands down an amazing spotter.
I love you guys for not being afraid with every single brand new vehicle you get to take it to Moab and bang it up!!!! I’m a jeep guy but I’m telling ya bravo to Ford for going this route with the Bronco and actually challenging the wrangler market, I’d Love one!!! And hearing the Raptor Bronco news I’m drooling for a Ford which I thought I’d never say. Love to see GM make the same step with an off-road full size blazer like the old 70’s ones soft top , and jsut give it thr ZR2 and duramax diesel treatment.
I'm now convinced all I need is Brittany to do all my spotting so I don't break my Bronco. Some of those obstacles looked easier than they actually were.
I love that y’all are wheelin the crap outta this stock Bronco to find it’s limits. I’m consistently impressed with Kevin’s driving skill and Brit’s spotting skill. Favorite wheelin channel on the UA-cams
Two videos I’ve watched and two failures with the Bronco on 40’s. They might want to consider removing that Jeep Eater graphic from it. It couldn’t even hang with the stock Jeep.
I absolutely love that you guys finally got your bronco, even with the crazy drive home. I have been looking forward to seeing Kevin drive a bronco outside of the off-rodeo. It makes me more and more exited for mine, only 12 more sleeps till build day. Not too bad, I only ordered on August 4th 2020.........
Is it just me or does the Bronco on 37s seem to have poorer approach, departure and break over angles than the stock 35s taking similar lines beyond just the front bumper and driver skill?
It didn't seem very happy with that 2in spacer lift. Kind of reminded me of a lifted Toyota the way it was performing, it seemed to have limited front travel.
What an amazing comparison! Poor Brit - you sounded so worried, and it turned out fine, in large part to your caution and spotting, which as always was a spot on! Great video work and editing too! Kevin - I really like those IFS tie rod supports. Suppose they would fit on a WK?? And good advice - being out on trails for Winter Jamboree I ordered a full set of tie rods; they arrived today. LiteBriteNationSaddlesUpTheBroncos!
Kev's driving capability stays also in not breaking anything. He knows the limit and always tries to bring the car back home. Brit you're a perfect spotter as always. Nice job guys from Italy
I can see Kevin’s excellent driving instincts and poise are not vehicle specific… Here I was thinking the Step Child was making him look like a great driver. Those who don’t do this stuff probably won’t see just how on point he is… Awesome vid guys!!
Lite Brite -- This episode felt like a movie starring an ordinary looking person caught in a situation that looks overwhelming but somehow makes it through unscathed! It has it's nail-biting moments, action-packed feats, jaw-dropping moments of disbelief, conflict, comedy (balls :D), moments of victory and defeat! You guys really pushed these practically stock Bronco and Jeep to it's capability short of destroying it! The upgrade portion in the garage had some good information as well. Love your content Kevin & Brittany!
It will help my wallet to know that building up a Bronco had diminishing returns on ability. Maybe I’ll get up to 37’s, but beyond that is like buying a punch to the face.
Great video! Reminds me of the early days when the Stepchild was bone stock. Something about seeing a stock vehicle expertly piloted on difficult trails. Gives us poor people hope! Oh and congrats on 200+ you deserve it!
Kevin should drive the broncbuster to really test it, he has far better rock crawling ability. Can't wait to see full aftermarket comparison with the lite brite bronco vs stepchild that way they both have same driver full aftermarket options.👍
Great drive everyone, to see a bone stock comparison, even Kevins skill had little effect on the outcome, there is a lot of potential for improvement, but the badsquatch impressed me.
Hey kids.... . another great rock challenge! The Bronco's holdin' up well? And, of course Kevin knows his sh#t. Brit, you're great @ spottin' too! Thanks for the ride along.
I used to have an FJ cruiser (that I loved) but my pain points were also the same pain points with the bronco.. it’s the weak front ends. Snap CV, tie rods, sway bar links... But I did love it. If I bought another IFS I’d take that bronco over the Tacoma or 4Runner any day! But I’m also not as good at driving as Kevin 😂
Who complains about sway bar end links on an offroader? I push my 6,000 pound FJ on 35x12.5s hard in the rocks fully locked and have yet to snap a OEM CV or bend a tie rod. I've replaced 1 loose tie rod on the trail and thats about it. Sometimes its the loose nut behind the wheel that needs adjusting.
@@CACressida and who spends their time coming at Someone with a different preference than you? I bet your over weight under powered fj cruiser does fine on the dirt roads you ride. Congrats. My experience with my fj was different. But Had my jeep for years and never had issues. It’s called preference. You know, hot heads like you are why I stopped going to meet ups. You are a cancer to the community
Not intended to be disrespectful to the bronco guy but he has a lot to learn about finesse when rock crawling. Maybe it is just the camera being out that makes him nervous. Glad to see him putting the time and effort into trying to find solutions to the weaknesses of the Bronco IFS.
Great video! 100% agreement on all comments about Brittany's spotting skills. So, as Kevin says that the tie rod is IFS weakest link in a stock Bronco, what would be the weakest link in the stock Rubicon?
Kevin and Brittany, you guys work so well together. Kevin's driving and Brittany's spotting you two could probably get anything with lockers and 8 inches of ground clearance through a lot of crazy places! I'm learning a lot from watching your videos and lines I wouldn't even think to take. I think that is what's fun about driving stockish vehicles, the perfect line! P.S. When you guys install new springs/shocks, could I buy your stock Bilstein's off ya??? I'll even com pick them up. Your only like a 5 hour drive from me. 😉🤞🙏🍻 P.S.S. I'm also an hour away from Grand Junction and if Next Venture Motorsports needs a Bronco to look at, I'm more than willing to let them use mine. 2.3 Black Diamond. You guys ROCK!
Wow Im impressed Ill never drive stuff like that ever. but sure gives me the confidence in purchasing the bronco for my needs. Great team work ,great content Thanks
Winter windshield washer fluid is usually rated to not freeze until temperatures WELL below zero and isn't too outrageously expensive when your putting multiple gallons in two or more wheels.
Man i know I'll get flamed for this but I'd love to take my 2020 defender on 35s wheeling with you guys to see what it can do. You guys are awsome spotters!
As a Rubi driver for several years and now with a BadSquatch headed to Moab tomorrow… this was the perfect video. Seems pretty clear that the excellence of the Bronco IFS on the road is also its Achille’s Heel on the tough stuff. The Jeep (on 35s, as mine is) has still got the edge on more challenging offroad tracks, but a pretty good match. Excited for tomorrow! Now just gotta burn through these stock Goodyears and get some K03 37s on the BadSquatch 😊 And as always Brit and Kev bring the good stuff ❤
The Bronco that’s on 40s need to change the tires out ASAP, that’s half his problem. Those ties are great for mud bogging, but for rock crawling they suck!!
So what I learned today was "Don't lift my Bronco" Maybe go up to a 37, good sliders, Hi-mount winch and I can do 95% of trails rated 8 or below and still daily drive it to work. seems simple enough.
As an Engineer I'll say that I'm shocked at the shortcomings of the Bronco with that front end. Ford should know that there are those who will take it to the next level, so at minimum they should have come up with a better overall "Front end" Your bronco guy is doing a great job at breaking, fixing, trying to make better, and so on. But it seems so elementary. Plus the aftermarket should already have something by now. On a related note, an ad came up on your channel for a Bronco give away that's on 37's, and lift but I can't imagine getting that or any Bronco until there's a really good solution to the front end period. I like the Bronco. I will have a Bronco (In addition to my JLUR and my YJ all built) one day, but I think I'll wait until a solution is out there so that I can simply wait for the "new every two" type people to buy a brand new Bronco, spend endless amounts of money to upgrade to what ever the new solution is, then sell it at 30 to 35 k miles, then I'll take advantage of the deal that I know I'll find because this cycle ALWAYS happens. But for now, it's good to see you guys do stuff and show it all. It's obvious solid axle is better, but definitely impressed that Bronco is doing great. Ford did an AWESOME job copying the basic design of the 4 door Wrangler. Lol.
The issue with the Bronco and all IFS trucks is cost as the the proper way of lifting it in the front is to put on portal axles. New front diff that goes backwards so one can use 2 gear portals, the portals itself and a new much stronger steering rack is going to be pretty expensive. But it's the only way of maintaining proper angles for suspension and axle shafts.
I've never done anything like this in my life so I really liked your video. After watching this video, and I hate wording it like this, but the most valuable tool all of you used in this video was the pretty blonde woman. I'm sorry, I don't know your name, and I hate referring to you as a tool, but girl you gave excellent guidance and instructions to every driver and they all trusted your instructions enough to follow them. This is the first time I've seen men listen to a woman's instructions especially in this type of terrain and you were excellent. You go girl.
Like you said you've never done anything like this. There are a lot of women out there who can drive the wheels off a vehicle and spot you through any obstacle. I know a LOT of men I wouldn't let spot me into a parking spot.
you can'tt bandaide that steering system into working correctly. You need to convert to DOM tube, heims, and an underslung, angled pin for your tie rods like the FJ guys did a long time ago.
Rough country forged tie rods or yeti ends On the hot tub, use GOAT mode and let it turn you faster. Why didn't you use the factory bead locks? It's not expensive to have them remounted as beadlocks Very surprised the jeep had the power to get out of the tub.
Unless somebody really wants one in reality it doesn't need solid axle at all. Ifs can flex same amount as solid axle with same length arms. Look at side by sides. Not to mention how well bronco does on dunes, desert runs etc. The upgrades that bronco will have are extended a arms.
Girl you are insane with your instructions! I feel like you guys could drive any kind of car through there and be fine. Sometimes it’s all about the driver not always about the vehicle. 🤙🏻
Great idea on the clamshell for the tie rod on the Bronco and that plastic insert bushing. There was a lot of tech in there Kevin and those without touching a r&p out of the vehicle probably don't have an understanding of that tech you talked about. In that tub, too bad didn't get the shots of full stuff compression clearance for the stock Bronco and the JLU (bump stops, tire-to-body clearance, springs compression/shape, etc). Another way of comparing the differences between IFS and straight axle setups. Also, at 17:49 minute mark where JLU was back peddling and sliding the rear down the slope, it looked like there was a boot in the ujoint area. Do they have the option of a CV axle shaft setup now from Jeep?
I’m still waiting to see the trail jeeps can do that broncos can’t. Since so many people saying the bronco is to do grocery runs. I mean I love jeep wranglers but so far I just haven’t seen the trade off for the solid axel vs the IFS. Considering how much nicer it is to drive the IFS on highways at high speed.
@@sappyjohnson that’s true. I love both vehicles but I prefer the Bronco a little bit more because of interior space and all those details. I love the Wrangler too and it was my dream a long time ago, but now I’m looking for the Bronco.
Minute 17:40 everybody!! . Come onnn!! Look at that Stock JEEP flex right there! OMG I love it!! The Bronco's back-right tire was like 2 feet in the air in that spot. Here on the JEEP we have only a couple of inches. Well, this is the comparison we were all waiting for! This is amazing! Even though the bronco did great, for this kind of stuff like slow offroad, rock Crawling, Flexing, etc...let's be honest...Bronco needs to just move aside and let the Jeep do its job :)) But i have to admit that the Bronco It is definitely better in other areas like high speed (Baja kinda like) offroad (with that IFS). Can't wait to see that - Baja like - Bronco transformation. #litebritesoldiersbaby
Cringe moments on almost every obstacle with the Broncos... then the Jeep comes in and it's like nothing. I'm ok with my choice (JLU). And I just can't agree with the Bronco's looks anyways, although of course it's very personal. For me it was never an option I guess. We should be happy to see some competition in the marketplace, that's about it for me.
@@hotrod7603 Yes let's keep escalating this. Triggered much? I just said I didn't like the look, and that it was just a personal thing. But..... what is a "heep"? Ho you mean "heap"? Like in "that Bronco looks like a heap of fucking steaming hot shit"? Got ya, now we're getting somewhere in our common understanding. Now GTFO. Loll
Seems as if so many people are trying to force the Bronco into a Jeep mold. They appear to be nice vehicles, but they're built for a different purpose. As you guys mentioned, the bronco is a gofast dunes and bumps wagon. Hey, I like that - Bump Wagon :) Loving the comparison videos, and the Bronco looks like it's pretty good on the trails, but it's just not a rock crawler.
Now don’t get me wrong I’ve learned to like the Bronco but I’m staying with Jeep, at the start of the video you to already upgrade the Bronco to protect the tie rods, the Jeep straight off the lot is ready for the trails. Love y’all’s videos and keep up the great work.
It's really not needed though. They are hanging out with the goof on 40s who keeps breaking his Bronco, and it's making the Lite crew nervous for no reason. The Bronco stock Sas isnt nearly as fragile as they are acting it is.
No one is nervous. 😊 Tie rods are the weak point on any IFS, it’s simply a fact of any IFS off road rig. And since we intend to (and are) challenging our rig more than others, it would be dumb to not take precautions if they are available. Unless someone else wants to buy us a spare set of tie rods (they’re expensive), we’d like to make these last a long as possible. 😊🤙
@@LiteBrite I get that, but you guys are hamming it up a bit. I think you'll grow to trust it more as you do a few more trails in it. It's not as robust as SFA, but you also don't have to baby it until you screw with the geometry a bit. I've led a few Bronco runs now here in AZ doing 7+ trails (Chivo/Chiva Falls being most recent) with everyone being Sasquatch and haven't seen any trail breakages yet. The gentlemen on 40s really jumped on the gun as there isn't enough aftermarket items out yet to pull that off. I'm far more worried about the 2.7 dropping a valve as ive only seen a few cases of steering failure but I think B6G is up to 30+ cases of blown engines.
So my question is will the aftermarket companies catch up or because of the way of the world and Ford had a issue getting the Bronco out will they write it off? Hope not, like I said I’ve learned to like the Bronco but I think like all new vehicles it takes time to work the bugs out. Maybe Ford would consider your videos for future testing. Can’t say you don’t put them through the limits.
@@rickaccurso The Bronco probably has a few more bugs than your typical new vehicle (I say that as an owner of a 4 Door Sas Badlands Lux w/2.7) and the build materials inside are terrible (the back cargo area may as well be made of cheese. Scratches SUPER easy), but its also revolutionary in a lot of ways. Its a weird hybrid between a Defender and a Rubicon IMO. So far the aftermarket is blowing up, but there is a LOT of room for improvement once you start messing with the geometry. I'm staying on 35s for a year or three until the market really catches up and matures.
In my offroad kit I have to Knipex Pliers Wrenches and set of Knipex Cobras. Best things to have in a pinch. Will open upto 3 inches and grips much tighter than crescent wrench. Less chance of rounded out your tie rod. And the Cobras are good to have to help you grab onto the tie rod if it is muddy or wet
I’ve been stranded in the Arizona desert twice in my life…both times wheeling IFS vehicles. I just can’t get into the Bronco because of it. Do a solid axle swap and I’m in!
Broncos a arms are literally stronger than solid axle. Plenty of people have destroyed solid axles too no difference there. Can't compare ultra modified jeeps with UPGRADED axles, arms, rods... to a stock bronco.
@@dkdanis1340 I’m not doing that. I don’t understand how someone could think a bronco even compares to a jeep wrangler. In this video it is clear as day that the IFS is weak in so many ways. Why take the chance of getting stranded?
@@DUNEATV rock crawling isn't everything they both did great also drivers are different. Look at sxs they are all ifs and irs and they do huge jumps and hit big holes with no problem. And who gives you guarantee that you won't get stranded in solid axle bronco.
@@dkdanis1340 Good point sir. I’ve had numerous side-by-side’s as well. There is a major power and weight difference when dealing with them. All I’m saying is that solid axle front ends are stronger.
@@DUNEATV still that doesn't mean that all ifs's are weak. For example ultra 4 and rock bouncer ifs are indestructible. There's also different handling.
I used to use windshield washer fluid, my Grandpa used to run it in his tractor tires. 🤣🤣 can't believe Jelly let's that bird stay on Kevin's hand !!! Be honest, how many holes did Kevin pinch in the seat 😂Great video guys ♥️♥️💯🤙
I made it to 9:47 in the video. this is why for many years when i was sending emails to Ford to bring back the bronco I told them SOILD AXLES FRONT and REAR.
...we all got "lured" into this Jeep/Bronco thing. The Bronco is way closer to a Defender than to a Jeep JLU. I also think its clientele is more a LandCruser, Defender, 4Runner type.
You guys are amazing. Love the way you tell the truth about a vehicle no matter what. First it was the Jeep and the 10 things you hate about it. Now it's a Bronco and the 10 things you hate about it. You haven't found 10 things yet, but you did find one! Well done. #JellyNation
You haven’t watch their bronco off-road in stock form against heavily modified jeeps and other broncos. I’m guessing if you’re doing heavy duty rock climbing maybe but 99% of people will not.
@@hotrod7603 That's not what I got from it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Bronco! I'm considering getting one. Not for rock crawling though. I just feel like stock or even mods, the Jeep will take the cake.
@@TheSatos I can't give you too much shit I'm running their competition fairlead for my RC9. But only cause the original warn one was going to cost me just as much and I liked the color better in the factor 55
Props to Lite Brite for doing a real world comparison that is now the gold standard for these two brands.
Amen
Hopefully be seeing you in May or June my 1996 Jeep zj will be in ready 4.5 lift and 33 locker it s a dream of mine that's how come true
@@ronaldpreslar8572 ???
Now we know why your Bronco got lost in ordering process for one year 😝 😝 😝
NOT a real world comparison! They modified the Bronco's steering before they even showed up. THAT is not stock.
The Bronco impresses me with how well it does. But the jeep just looks so much more poised and in its element. But like you said, the Bronco will do what 90% of people want just fine.
Rock crawling is only one part of the offroad. One of my favorite. Next they should test wrangler vs bronco on dunes, desert, mud.
@@dkdanis1340 oh I’m sure it is coming lol. But agree. The ifs will eat that up.
@@Eveloffroad it's will be fun for sure.
Yeah. On that Jeep Rubicon the articulation is amazing, almost all the time the 4 tires are on the ground.
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@@dkdanis1340 surprisingly wranglers with the right valving and a Axle truss are extremely well fitted for faster stuff too. The entire jeep speed circuit is based off of it
This is the comparison everyone has been wanting
I wish one of the two could at least build a reliable product. Too much to ask these days I guess. I would buy either in a heartbeat if they had something decent for around $40k and they weren't built to break. F'ing libs blowing the world up over the weak flu screwed the worlds economies for decades. I hope it was worth it to get sleepy Joe in office, because people can't afford to freakin eat much less buy a $80k Jeep/Ford that breaks down at 36,001 miles.
No it isnt. They dont know how to drive
The fact that y’all have to do this just to wheel hard makes me love my solid axels in my jeep even more.
The Bronco seems very capable on 35's. Until they come out with a suspension kit like the RCLT from Marlin Crawler for the Bronco, they should just stop with the 37's and 40's. It's clearly way too much.
Those broncos would have greatly benefited from a driver mod
@@THEpicND Well the way I look at it is, that driver has a lots of money and wants the baddest bronco out there and as long as he is committed in strengthening the IFS platform I am happy to see the abuse he is putting on the vehicle. Anything that can handle that type of aggressive driving will be bullet proof for the rest of us who will drive more like Kevin using tactical approach versus using force.
@@THEpicND he's also abusing these broncos on purpose to find weak areas and build parts for them
The dude in the green jeep did an awesome job. You could tell he definitely trusted your spotting
Thanks
You guys are so much fun to watch! I love how Kevin is out here living his best life wheeling regularly and Brittany is always there to cheer him on! Such a blessing that you two have eachother and you share your adventures with us!
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I think Mis Brittany can outwheel 95% of us watching the channel.....she is more than just a cheerleader!
Bronco Buster needs the proper tires for the job. Slapping aggressive MTs isn’t the correct answer to every off road condition.
MTs are awesome on rocks. Flooring it isn’t the answer. That showed perfectly how HP doesn’t count for shit if you don’t know how to apply it.
That bolt was barely tightened not the broncos fault
He never fails to bust that Bronco, that's for sure.
This is the type of video I’ve been waiting for! No jeep hate, no bronco hate, just honesty
Kevin just flat out makes everything look easy. I’m really looking forward to seeing what he does with that Bronco.. this is the best off road channel…………
He’s a VERY good off roader, no doubt. I enjoy a Jeep on 40s with a hemi ax much as the next guy, but I really like watching him drive more basic rigs, if you could call the Bronco that.
@@phild9813 I agree with that
You guys making the bronco look good on the trails. Going to be good to see what all you do to it
Brittany just has a gift for spotting, and beware anyone that doesn’t follow her directions. “driver,driver,driver, the other driver”! “Yeah that’s it”. She is brilliant, whilst operating the camera and recording the whole thing.
You are absolutely right. Anybody that hasn't tried would be surprised by just how distracting recording everything can be.
Other than the slight over reacting when going over certain obstacles I agree with you.😂
I have now seen that sliding the rear sideways is an essential skill for off-roading. Very well done.
So leave it stock for now? Gotcha. Lol. I’m more and more impressed with that bronco! Of course , it’s mostly driver ability and nerves.
A good spotter cannot be underestimated.
@@ohroonoko that too!
32mm crows foot with a long handle ratchet would come in great for those tie rods. You guys are killing it with the comparisons.
Kevin drives like a pro and the machine responds. Most of it is driving to the vehicles strengths, and the damaged vehicles were being driven like they were stolen… another kick ass video, thx guys
I have to say the Jeep looked more poised throughout right out of the box. I am not sold on the IFS on the rocks or even mud where you have to get high wheel spin. Looks fragile when there is a lot of load on it. I am sort of seeing what I expected so far as steering and CV failures. Not saying I won't get one some day like 5 years down the road and used.
Very interesting comparison. What was also interesting was to see the difference in experience levels between Kevin and the other drivers. Not being negative, I would be in the same category level as the other two gentlemen! But clearly makes a difference.
So true tho!
Kevin is the reason there wasn't three broken broncos. He's definitely done a lot more of that driving and is impressive.
The driver of the Jeep was good but not at Kevin's level.
I've always been a Ford fan but the straight axle and articulation of the Jeep is much better than the bronco. A couple extra features on the Jeep would have made the Jeep driver look as good as Kevin.
@@johnfcomeau5011 no it is not
The jeep driver did really well. I could tell a bit that they lacked experience, but they followed the spotting perfectly and didn’t panic throttle which kept them safe. Can’t say the same ab the dude in the other two broncos
Very good video. It would be interesting to see Kevin takes the same Obstacle with two different (similar) Vehicles. Right? Plus, it would be good to hear how he felt it was better/worse. Just a thought Light Brite. 🤔
Just got my Bronco last month (finally) and this is teaching me the limits of my vehicle, so I don’t have to go out and test them myself lol. I wouldn’t dare rock crawl like this without experience, but it is fun to watch a pro do it and squeeze all of what the Bronco can do
The Bronco stock has been more capable than I thought it would be. However Kevin’s driving and Britney’s spotting has a lot to do with the success.
That can go for any vehicle, a good driver and spotter could go over most trails in many basic off road vehicles
@@raionshishi8290 exactly
Impressed with the Bronco, but no IFS for me.... Jeep just looked like it felt more comfortable or natural doing this.
If it’s primarily rock crawling then yeah. But the Bronco is way more poised in faster off-roading.
@@zachariahyager3115
I think the Bronco is going to be a much better domestic competitor for the Tacoma in the overlanding market than the Jeep in the crawler arena.
@@frankw7266 Well yeah it was never going to beat Jeep in crawling but it’s supposed to be a better all around off-road and on. Basically fitting between the Jeep and the 4Runner.
No IFS for me. Bronco is terrible.
@@abel78750 I mean feel free to have your opinion but it’s clear it can rock crawl and it’s better in sand and basically anything over ten miles an hour. I wouldn’t call that terrible.
The Bronco is very impressive in stock form with little mods! ….almost seems like the modded ones were too big or not set up right for that particular trail!
The Bronco’s IFS seems to also stand for ‘independent front steering’ - The Bronco can definitely cut it on the trail but they really need to get the steering sorted. Other than that, another great video guys 👍🏼
I'm sure the aftermarket will bring some much needed beef to that front end very soon if they haven't already.
@@ZboeC5 There is a fix for it, the 4600 broncos for ultra4 have figured out the issue already. They havent had any steering issues despite the abuse they go threw when racing.
@@Minegun3 Portal hubs make a huge difference. Also think the hub steering geo is much better.
the rod where it goes into the joint is smaller the the bolt at the wheel it would be fine on a car but not something advertised to offroad
Yeah i dont think they designed the tierods for massively oversized 40in tires half full of water and hopping under power...
🤣 So much for ... "We didn't buy this for rock climbing, we bought it for Baja stuff. We haven't been to Baja yet!" ... one week later. (Kev) "Hold my beer, it'll crawl this, we do it all the time in the jeep. This has a shorter wheelbase!"
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That's funny... it sounds just like Kevin! 🤣👍
Tanks to Kev for pointing out that dirt road/fire trail is not “off-roading”… too many car company/reviewers seem to think that anything off pavement or concrete is off road
Kevin is a great driver off-road. He makes the Bronco look much better than a lot of people would. My take on both. I like both! The Bronco is better on the highway. Jeep is better off road. Articulation.....Jeep > Bronco.
Honestly IFS is better not just on highways but almost any situation that isn’t rock crawling.
jeep better for offload rock climb the bronco better for offload baja style
@@SJRCUSTOMS Yep. This is the truth.
@@pkingpure100 but for most of the country rocky terrain is the only type of off-roading you’re doing and the jeep is superior
Lol.
Love how you guys are out there before even having plates. Just like you guys did with the step child!
I don't rock crawl but I off-road at pretty high speeds and go mudding. So IFS feels MUCH better to me especially going over small whoops/rough trails at 50+mph. I had fun it jeeps, but they break a LOT, but a Bronco with the Sasquatch and the 7spd manual is my off-roader of choice. Obviously doing some power upgrades to the 4cyl but the ones I drove weren't slouches.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this video, and it was even better than I was hoping. Great driving by Kevin and the Jeep driver. This video was also a great example of what happens when you lift an IFS vehicle and allow it to have too much droop, then romp on it.
BroncBuster and LiteBrite are doing great things for the Bronco! Super informative! You guys are the best!
Always amazed at how capable stock off-roaders are.
I have a 2014 JKU Sahara with 3.21 gears with a manual trans and while I haven’t attempted to do anything like these guys are doing here, but I’ve still done things that people told me there’s no way a stock Wrangler is capable of.
I don’t know if you guys ever go back and look at your first few episodes, but just wow!! You’ve come so far. From content to videography to presentation have resulted in the most professional videos ever. This latest has set the bar for comparison videos. Congratulations. I wish you only the best.
First rule of four wheeling, don't trust the spotter. Unless, it's Brittany, you can trust Brittany, she gets it! Great driving, great spotting. I've always appreciated that you guys show you can run hard trails without unnecessarily tearing up a vehicle.
i absolutely love these bronco videos. so interesting yet so fun to watch.
.....exactly what most have been saying in the off-road communities. The Bronco is good but not a Jeep replacement as Ford has marketed it to supposedly be.
It simply compares more to the Toyotas and other IFS 4x4's that it does the Jeep. It's like anything. Throw enough money and mods you can make almost anything literally do what others can do easier. That is what you have and it's great for the consumer.
Jeep will find ways to improve their SFA's to do as good as they can for speed and handling. Just like Ford will continue to learn and make their IFS as good as they can for rock crawling.
In the end I love it. Jeep has already come out with the Recon package, a V8 Wrangler and let's be honest because of Ford pushing back in this market with the Bronco.
Who knows, if Ford is serious maybe we get a solid axle version and maybe Jeep eventually offers a IFS Wrangler option.....?
Future is awesome and great video.
PS: Kevin is an incredible driver, but Brittany is hands down an amazing spotter.
You guys are a great team. Awesome driving. Excellent spotting. Fun to watch.
Not certain what is better...Kevin's driving or Brit's spotting! Great combination!
I love you guys for not being afraid with every single brand new vehicle you get to take it to Moab and bang it up!!!!
I’m a jeep guy but I’m telling ya bravo to Ford for going this route with the Bronco and actually challenging the wrangler market, I’d Love one!!! And hearing the Raptor Bronco news I’m drooling for a Ford which I thought I’d never say. Love to see GM make the same step with an off-road full size blazer like the old 70’s ones soft top , and jsut give it thr ZR2 and duramax diesel treatment.
I'm now convinced all I need is Brittany to do all my spotting so I don't break my Bronco. Some of those obstacles looked easier than they actually were.
everyone needs a Brittany in their life !!!
@@oneshotpete6.591 Sorry - there's only one!
I found her annoying
@@Just_Joe71 I find you annoying
I love that y’all are wheelin the crap outta this stock Bronco to find it’s limits. I’m consistently impressed with Kevin’s driving skill and Brit’s spotting skill. Favorite wheelin channel on the UA-cams
Two videos I’ve watched and two failures with the Bronco on 40’s. They might want to consider removing that Jeep Eater graphic from it. It couldn’t even hang with the stock Jeep.
Someone is jelly lol offcourse a heep owner
@@hotrod7603 you put Jeep Eater on it you’d best be able to handle your business
That Blue paint on those red rocks...Perfect example of complimentary colors. Looking good.
I absolutely love that you guys finally got your bronco, even with the crazy drive home. I have been looking forward to seeing Kevin drive a bronco outside of the off-rodeo. It makes me more and more exited for mine, only 12 more sleeps till build day. Not too bad, I only ordered on August 4th 2020.........
Is it just me or does the Bronco on 37s seem to have poorer approach, departure and break over angles than the stock 35s taking similar lines beyond just the front bumper and driver skill?
It didn't seem very happy with that 2in spacer lift. Kind of reminded me of a lifted Toyota the way it was performing, it seemed to have limited front travel.
What an amazing comparison! Poor Brit - you sounded so worried, and it turned out fine, in large part to your caution and spotting, which as always was a spot on! Great video work and editing too! Kevin - I really like those IFS tie rod supports. Suppose they would fit on a WK?? And good advice - being out on trails for Winter Jamboree I ordered a full set of tie rods; they arrived today. LiteBriteNationSaddlesUpTheBroncos!
Kev's driving capability stays also in not breaking anything. He knows the limit and always tries to bring the car back home. Brit you're a perfect spotter as always. Nice job guys from Italy
I can see Kevin’s excellent driving instincts and poise are not vehicle specific… Here I was thinking the Step Child was making him look like a great driver. Those who don’t do this stuff probably won’t see just how on point he is… Awesome vid guys!!
Wrangler proved why it’s called off-road king
Great content guys, I just admire Kevin's driving skills, he does it with such finesse.
Lite Brite -- This episode felt like a movie starring an ordinary looking person caught in a situation that looks overwhelming but somehow makes it through unscathed! It has it's nail-biting moments, action-packed feats, jaw-dropping moments of disbelief, conflict, comedy (balls :D), moments of victory and defeat! You guys really pushed these practically stock Bronco and Jeep to it's capability short of destroying it! The upgrade portion in the garage had some good information as well. Love your content Kevin & Brittany!
I like how the two stock cars made it through but the modified ones didn't. Was this another case of "all the gear but no idea"
Kevin and the Jeep driver drove sensibly, and listened to their spotter.
exercising some finesse would probably save the broncobuster a lot of broken parts
It will help my wallet to know that building up a Bronco had diminishing returns on ability. Maybe I’ll get up to 37’s, but beyond that is like buying a punch to the face.
I was on the edge of my seat a couple of times during the video!! Don’t think I could bare taking my new bronco out to that trail!!!
Great video! Reminds me of the early days when the Stepchild was bone stock. Something about seeing a stock vehicle expertly piloted on difficult trails. Gives us poor people hope! Oh and congrats on 200+ you deserve it!
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Kevin should drive the broncbuster to really test it, he has far better rock crawling ability. Can't wait to see full aftermarket comparison with the lite brite bronco vs stepchild that way they both have same driver full aftermarket options.👍
I think that thing would break anyway.
Great drive everyone, to see a bone stock comparison, even Kevins skill had little effect on the outcome,
there is a lot of potential for improvement, but the badsquatch impressed me.
Hey kids.... . another great rock challenge! The Bronco's holdin' up well?
And, of course Kevin knows his sh#t. Brit, you're great @ spottin' too!
Thanks for the ride along.
I'm glad I own a Jeep. And that's all I have to say about that.
What’s up with the stack of washers on the BroncBuster? Looks like he sheared right through them and bent the tie rod heim joint in the process.
Great content, as always. Kevin, I’ve been wanting to see some of the tie rod stuff up close before i had to run into it first hand, lol. Thanks!
Your killing it with this content best entertainment out there! Driving the Bronco through a twister and now throwing her on the rocks.
I used to have an FJ cruiser (that I loved) but my pain points were also the same pain points with the bronco.. it’s the weak front ends. Snap CV, tie rods, sway bar links... But I did love it. If I bought another IFS I’d take that bronco over the Tacoma or 4Runner any day! But I’m also not as good at driving as Kevin 😂
Who complains about sway bar end links on an offroader? I push my 6,000 pound FJ on 35x12.5s hard in the rocks fully locked and have yet to snap a OEM CV or bend a tie rod. I've replaced 1 loose tie rod on the trail and thats about it. Sometimes its the loose nut behind the wheel that needs adjusting.
@@CACressida and who spends their time coming at Someone with a different preference than you? I bet your over weight under powered fj cruiser does fine on the dirt roads you ride. Congrats. My experience with my fj was different. But Had my jeep for years and never had issues. It’s called preference. You know, hot heads like you are why I stopped going to meet ups. You are a cancer to the community
Not intended to be disrespectful to the bronco guy but he has a lot to learn about finesse when rock crawling. Maybe it is just the camera being out that makes him nervous. Glad to see him putting the time and effort into trying to find solutions to the weaknesses of the Bronco IFS.
Great video! 100% agreement on all comments about Brittany's spotting skills. So, as Kevin says that the tie rod is IFS weakest link in a stock Bronco, what would be the weakest link in the stock Rubicon?
Depending on what you’re doing, the ujoint is your weak link in a Jeep. That, and death wobble. 😅😅
I think death wobble ended with the TJ/LJ line. Btw LJ's rule 👍, the last of the non electronic controlled jeeps .
Damn! Excellent offroading skills👍🏻👍🏻 What a good team 😊
Kevin and Brittany, you guys work so well together. Kevin's driving and Brittany's spotting you two could probably get anything with lockers and 8 inches of ground clearance through a lot of crazy places! I'm learning a lot from watching your videos and lines I wouldn't even think to take. I think that is what's fun about driving stockish vehicles, the perfect line!
P.S. When you guys install new springs/shocks, could I buy your stock Bilstein's off ya??? I'll even com pick them up. Your only like a 5 hour drive from me. 😉🤞🙏🍻
P.S.S. I'm also an hour away from Grand Junction and if Next Venture Motorsports needs a Bronco to look at, I'm more than willing to let them use mine. 2.3 Black Diamond.
You guys ROCK!
Finding that perfect line... is what I meant to say.
Wow Im impressed Ill never drive stuff like that ever. but sure gives me the confidence in purchasing the bronco for my needs. Great team work ,great content Thanks
I think the broncobuster would benefit most from a driver mod...
those tires are pretty soft too, makes it so bouncy.. and yes i agree.
And better tires
Winter windshield washer fluid is usually rated to not freeze until temperatures WELL below zero and isn't too outrageously expensive when your putting multiple gallons in two or more wheels.
Man i know I'll get flamed for this but I'd love to take my 2020 defender on 35s wheeling with you guys to see what it can do. You guys are awsome spotters!
👍... I for one, would LOVE to see that.
As a Rubi driver for several years and now with a BadSquatch headed to Moab tomorrow… this was the perfect video. Seems pretty clear that the excellence of the Bronco IFS on the road is also its Achille’s Heel on the tough stuff. The Jeep (on 35s, as mine is) has still got the edge on more challenging offroad tracks, but a pretty good match. Excited for tomorrow! Now just gotta burn through these stock Goodyears and get some K03 37s on the BadSquatch 😊
And as always Brit and Kev bring the good stuff ❤
The Bronco that’s on 40s need to change the tires out ASAP, that’s half his problem. Those ties are great for mud bogging, but for rock crawling they suck!!
So what I learned today was "Don't lift my Bronco" Maybe go up to a 37, good sliders, Hi-mount winch and I can do 95% of trails rated 8 or below and still daily drive it to work. seems simple enough.
Yup
As an Engineer I'll say that I'm shocked at the shortcomings of the Bronco with that front end. Ford should know that there are those who will take it to the next level, so at minimum they should have come up with a better overall "Front end" Your bronco guy is doing a great job at breaking, fixing, trying to make better, and so on. But it seems so elementary. Plus the aftermarket should already have something by now. On a related note, an ad came up on your channel for a Bronco give away that's on 37's, and lift but I can't imagine getting that or any Bronco until there's a really good solution to the front end period. I like the Bronco. I will have a Bronco (In addition to my JLUR and my YJ all built) one day, but I think I'll wait until a solution is out there so that I can simply wait for the "new every two" type people to buy a brand new Bronco, spend endless amounts of money to upgrade to what ever the new solution is, then sell it at 30 to 35 k miles, then I'll take advantage of the deal that I know I'll find because this cycle ALWAYS happens. But for now, it's good to see you guys do stuff and show it all. It's obvious solid axle is better, but definitely impressed that Bronco is doing great. Ford did an AWESOME job copying the basic design of the 4 door Wrangler. Lol.
There was an aftermarket solid front axle for the Bronco shown at SEMA.
The issue with the Bronco and all IFS trucks is cost as the the proper way of lifting it in the front is to put on portal axles. New front diff that goes backwards so one can use 2 gear portals, the portals itself and a new much stronger steering rack is going to be pretty expensive. But it's the only way of maintaining proper angles for suspension and axle shafts.
I've never done anything like this in my life so I really liked your video. After watching this video, and I hate wording it like this, but the most valuable tool all of you used in this video was the pretty blonde woman. I'm sorry, I don't know your name, and I hate referring to you as a tool, but girl you gave excellent guidance and instructions to every driver and they all trusted your instructions enough to follow them. This is the first time I've seen men listen to a woman's instructions especially in this type of terrain and you were excellent. You go girl.
Like you said you've never done anything like this. There are a lot of women out there who can drive the wheels off a vehicle and spot you through any obstacle. I know a LOT of men I wouldn't let spot me into a parking spot.
you can'tt bandaide that steering system into working correctly. You need to convert to DOM tube, heims, and an underslung, angled pin for your tie rods like the FJ guys did a long time ago.
Yeah typical ford, you feel like they would’ve learned from the Toyota/Nissan guys that have been wheeling for 20 years 😂
Rough country forged tie rods or yeti ends
On the hot tub, use GOAT mode and let it turn you faster.
Why didn't you use the factory bead locks? It's not expensive to have them remounted as beadlocks
Very surprised the jeep had the power to get out of the tub.
So…how many IFS to solid axle kits for the Bronco are currently being developed?
Unless somebody really wants one in reality it doesn't need solid axle at all. Ifs can flex same amount as solid axle with same length arms. Look at side by sides. Not to mention how well bronco does on dunes, desert runs etc. The upgrades that bronco will have are extended a arms.
Girl you are insane with your instructions! I feel like you guys could drive any kind of car through there and be fine. Sometimes it’s all about the driver not always about the vehicle. 🤙🏻
Kevin is a damn good driver 👍🏼
Thanks for sharing this Technique and Demonstration. No braking and No injuries! Peace ✌️ and Love 💕 from Tucson Arizona Desert 🏜️
Awesome... You guys never cease to amaze and impress! 💯💯💯💯💯
Great idea on the clamshell for the tie rod on the Bronco and that plastic insert bushing. There was a lot of tech in there Kevin and those without touching a r&p out of the vehicle probably don't have an understanding of that tech you talked about.
In that tub, too bad didn't get the shots of full stuff compression clearance for the stock Bronco and the JLU (bump stops, tire-to-body clearance, springs compression/shape, etc). Another way of comparing the differences between IFS and straight axle setups.
Also, at 17:49 minute mark where JLU was back peddling and sliding the rear down the slope, it looked like there was a boot in the ujoint area. Do they have the option of a CV axle shaft setup now from Jeep?
I’m still waiting to see the trail jeeps can do that broncos can’t. Since so many people saying the bronco is to do grocery runs. I mean I love jeep wranglers but so far I just haven’t seen the trade off for the solid axel vs the IFS. Considering how much nicer it is to drive the IFS on highways at high speed.
Don't listen to the haters. 99.9% of them have never sat in a Bronco or even seen one. Brand loyalty is a thing for some reason.
@@sappyjohnson that’s true. I love both vehicles but I prefer the Bronco a little bit more because of interior space and all those details. I love the Wrangler too and it was my dream a long time ago, but now I’m looking for the Bronco.
This is what I love about the Bronco, capable rock crawler but also great at high speed with IFS.
Minute 17:40 everybody!! . Come onnn!! Look at that Stock JEEP flex right there! OMG I love it!!
The Bronco's back-right tire was like 2 feet in the air in that spot. Here on the JEEP we have only a couple of inches.
Well, this is the comparison we were all waiting for! This is amazing!
Even though the bronco did great, for this kind of stuff like slow offroad, rock Crawling, Flexing, etc...let's be honest...Bronco needs to just move aside and let the Jeep do its job :))
But i have to admit that the Bronco It is definitely better in other areas like high speed (Baja kinda like) offroad (with that IFS).
Can't wait to see that - Baja like - Bronco transformation.
#litebritesoldiersbaby
Cringe moments on almost every obstacle with the Broncos... then the Jeep comes in and it's like nothing. I'm ok with my choice (JLU). And I just can't agree with the Bronco's looks anyways, although of course it's very personal. For me it was never an option I guess. We should be happy to see some competition in the marketplace, that's about it for me.
@@OffRoadQC jeeps look like a birth defect in front of bronco
@@hotrod7603 Bronco looks like it was designed by a 2 years old. No I don't really think that but if you want to throw shit around, here you go. Loll
@@OffRoadQC it still looks way better designed than a garbage heep
@@hotrod7603 Yes let's keep escalating this. Triggered much? I just said I didn't like the look, and that it was just a personal thing. But..... what is a "heep"? Ho you mean "heap"? Like in "that Bronco looks like a heap of fucking steaming hot shit"? Got ya, now we're getting somewhere in our common understanding. Now GTFO. Loll
Seems as if so many people are trying to force the Bronco into a Jeep mold. They appear to be nice vehicles, but they're built for a different purpose. As you guys mentioned, the bronco is a gofast dunes and bumps wagon. Hey, I like that - Bump Wagon :) Loving the comparison videos, and the Bronco looks like it's pretty good on the trails, but it's just not a rock crawler.
Jeep proved why he is the Best, ever!!
kevin and brittany make a super in their rock climbing videos. I have been watching their videos for the past, year and a half. keep them coming.
Now don’t get me wrong I’ve learned to like the Bronco but I’m staying with Jeep, at the start of the video you to already upgrade the Bronco to protect the tie rods, the Jeep straight off the lot is ready for the trails. Love y’all’s videos and keep up the great work.
It's really not needed though. They are hanging out with the goof on 40s who keeps breaking his Bronco, and it's making the Lite crew nervous for no reason. The Bronco stock Sas isnt nearly as fragile as they are acting it is.
No one is nervous. 😊 Tie rods are the weak point on any IFS, it’s simply a fact of any IFS off road rig. And since we intend to (and are) challenging our rig more than others, it would be dumb to not take precautions if they are available. Unless someone else wants to buy us a spare set of tie rods (they’re expensive), we’d like to make these last a long as possible. 😊🤙
@@LiteBrite I get that, but you guys are hamming it up a bit. I think you'll grow to trust it more as you do a few more trails in it.
It's not as robust as SFA, but you also don't have to baby it until you screw with the geometry a bit.
I've led a few Bronco runs now here in AZ doing 7+ trails (Chivo/Chiva Falls being most recent) with everyone being Sasquatch and haven't seen any trail breakages yet.
The gentlemen on 40s really jumped on the gun as there isn't enough aftermarket items out yet to pull that off.
I'm far more worried about the 2.7 dropping a valve as ive only seen a few cases of steering failure but I think B6G is up to 30+ cases of blown engines.
So my question is will the aftermarket companies catch up or because of the way of the world and Ford had a issue getting the Bronco out will they write it off? Hope not, like I said I’ve learned to like the Bronco but I think like all new vehicles it takes time to work the bugs out. Maybe Ford would consider your videos for future testing. Can’t say you don’t put them through the limits.
@@rickaccurso The Bronco probably has a few more bugs than your typical new vehicle (I say that as an owner of a 4 Door Sas Badlands Lux w/2.7) and the build materials inside are terrible (the back cargo area may as well be made of cheese. Scratches SUPER easy), but its also revolutionary in a lot of ways. Its a weird hybrid between a Defender and a Rubicon IMO.
So far the aftermarket is blowing up, but there is a LOT of room for improvement once you start messing with the geometry. I'm staying on 35s for a year or three until the market really catches up and matures.
In my offroad kit I have to Knipex Pliers Wrenches and set of Knipex Cobras. Best things to have in a pinch. Will open upto 3 inches and grips much tighter than crescent wrench. Less chance of rounded out your tie rod. And the Cobras are good to have to help you grab onto the tie rod if it is muddy or wet
I’ve been stranded in the Arizona desert twice in my life…both times wheeling IFS vehicles. I just can’t get into the Bronco because of it. Do a solid axle swap and I’m in!
Broncos a arms are literally stronger than solid axle. Plenty of people have destroyed solid axles too no difference there. Can't compare ultra modified jeeps with UPGRADED axles, arms, rods... to a stock bronco.
@@dkdanis1340 I’m not doing that. I don’t understand how someone could think a bronco even compares to a jeep wrangler. In this video it is clear as day that the IFS is weak in so many ways. Why take the chance of getting stranded?
@@DUNEATV rock crawling isn't everything they both did great also drivers are different. Look at sxs they are all ifs and irs and they do huge jumps and hit big holes with no problem. And who gives you guarantee that you won't get stranded in solid axle bronco.
@@dkdanis1340 Good point sir. I’ve had numerous side-by-side’s as well. There is a major power and weight difference when dealing with them. All I’m saying is that solid axle front ends are stronger.
@@DUNEATV still that doesn't mean that all ifs's are weak. For example ultra 4 and rock bouncer ifs are indestructible. There's also different handling.
Absolutely One of the Best Offroad Comparison Videos out There!
I used to use windshield washer fluid, my Grandpa used to run it in his tractor tires. 🤣🤣 can't believe Jelly let's that bird stay on Kevin's hand !!! Be honest, how many holes did Kevin pinch in the seat 😂Great video guys ♥️♥️💯🤙
I made it to 9:47 in the video. this is why for many years when i was sending emails to Ford to bring back the bronco I told them SOILD AXLES FRONT and REAR.
...we all got "lured" into this Jeep/Bronco thing. The Bronco is way closer to a Defender than to a Jeep JLU. I also think its clientele is more a LandCruser, Defender, 4Runner type.
I Agree.
Good one 😆😎🇺🇸
You guys are amazing. Love the way you tell the truth about a vehicle no matter what. First it was the Jeep and the 10 things you hate about it. Now it's a Bronco and the 10 things you hate about it. You haven't found 10 things yet, but you did find one! Well done. #JellyNation
Bronco appears to me like a nice convertible going to town rig! Take the Jeep if your going off road!
You haven’t watch their bronco off-road in stock form against heavily modified jeeps and other broncos. I’m guessing if you’re doing heavy duty rock climbing maybe but 99% of people will not.
Bronco - A mall crawler at best! Hahahahaaa
Impressive trucks. Even more impressive test and video. Thank you !
That stock Rubicon is crushing the broncos..... in my humble opinion
Yes in flex nothing else Bronco is way better
@@hotrod7603 That's not what I got from it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Bronco! I'm considering getting one. Not for rock crawling though. I just feel like stock or even mods, the Jeep will take the cake.
@@Mike_E_44 in stock the Bronco is more capable unless the bronco raptor arrives
Love the guy rocking the factor 55 flatlink on a badlands winch.
Thanks! That’s how I roll though!
@@TheSatos I can't give you too much shit I'm running their competition fairlead for my RC9. But only cause the original warn one was going to cost me just as much and I liked the color better in the factor 55