Almogavers (from arabic Al-Mogauar- some sort of mercenaries) whas a guerrilla tactic unit from Aragon kingdom (most Catalans from mountain regions, the poorest) who fight in the bizantine empire, and even establish two counties (Atenas and Neopatria) There is a whole "epopee" about this people and his deeds called "venjança catalana" or "Catalan revenge". They usualy used some sort of short sword, no armor, one spear, two dards and little bags with flint (legends say they use fear tactics, making sparks while yelling "desperta ferro" in catalans means "weak, iron!" so the enemies can see the lights in the night) they also travels with theis families. Keep the good job, big fan from Catalonia. (btw, not saying this people was like spec ops, but, this people tell the history of many other who fight behind the enemies line. (sorry for the bad english, i'm almost self taught )
Not Sure, to be fair though, there's wayyyy more right handed peeps than left (you sinister person you.....😂) so it kinda makes sense? If you were a producer of things you will make what you can sell most of......however,perhaps your missing a trick my brother.....why not open a left-porium like Ned Flanders in the Simpsons? Help your sinister brethren out? Nawww it's all love, my daughter is a leftie so it's all love.....and I get what your saying it must be pretty annoying for you guys how pretty much everything is designed for the right handers.....crazy how Matt is left handed writer but not fighter.....💯
I'm not so sure. Other than adding the occasional line and pic, all of Lindy's videos are shot in one take, so that there is no necessity to edit them. Matt has even commented about how he admires Lindy managing to do his videos in one take, whereas he has to edit them.
Well, Lindybeige is perfectly able to give the 21st century a really hard time, but in the end, the fight would very probably turn in a war of attrition. And as we all are forced to learn sooner or later, time really is an expert in that kind of warfare. :-)
Wonder of wonders I have just watched another episode of roleplay with Matt playing arms dealer, Jason from Modern History playing knight errant, Metatron a scholar and Lloyd playing extremely crafty servant. Shadiversity runs the game.
Gate Pah was 50 years ago for the troops of the first world war, they'd have been well educated on how to deal with a situation like that. Not to mention the first world war was entirely an exercise in trench warfare.
LindyBeige reminds me of my grandfather who would shake and tilt the smartphone thinking it will scroll faster due to gravity like a mechanical device.
Two of the most stereotypical British men on UA-cam stand in the British farmlands with people in the backround battling with medieval weapons. (Maybe English instead of British)
I want to let you know that I've recently acquired a beige sweater and I'm enjoying it very much. I was inspired by you to buy it. It is very comfortable and stylish. Thank you for being part of my life.
RyanRyzzo, considering that so many people use smartphones to send text messages rather than make actual calls, technically a smartphone is a wireless telegraph.
the Romans didn't have a lot of coal. An industrial revolution is only possible if the energy source is availible
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@Joker It was a good move, rapid shifts in the economy leads to unrest, and he didn't know what great things the steam engine would make possible, it wasn't worth fighting a civil war over trains
Another beautiful explaination for why the industrial revolution didn’t happen until when it did is alcohol. It wasn’t until coffee and tea had largely replaced alcohol as the everyman’s go-to beverage that industry truly kicked off. And it makes sense. Alcohol is a ‘downer’, coffee and tea are ‘uppers’. And in those coffee and tea houses, with men’s minds being opened up, rather than slowed down, “ya know, what if someone...” conversations took place. Disclaimer- this isn’t an original idea of mine. I believe I saw it on one of Simeon Whistler’s channels (Today I Found Out, Biographics, etc). It may have also been from one of the Greene brothers. Maybeee on of the History Hub channels. Oh, or maybe Knowing Better.
About those "spec ops". I've recently read a book that mentioned soldiers doing this sort of operations, but in the Renaissance, not the Middle Ages. They used to sneak up to the castle gate, blow it up with explosives and let the rest of the army in. Bartłomiej Nowogrodzki was a known Polish petardier, who learned this craft on Malta and used petards to destroy gates of Turkish fortresses. Later he fought in Polish-Muscovite war of 1609-1611 and helped to conquer the city of Smolensk.
thank you so much Beige for making all your videos, they help me relax after a long day. i love the characteristic elements your edits make and your general pleasant umbra.
Great discussion lads! In reply to one question - marines are not special forces, they are very much conventional forces. This isn't to say they're bad - they are expected to undertake a wide variety of combat roles with less preparation than SF.
One suggestion I have heard as to why armour was abandoned is that, in addition to what is said in the video, musket-resistant armour was simply too heavy to be worth carrying around during campaign, and so had it been issued to the common soldiers it would simply have been abandoned by the roadside.
I am right handed but learnt to write left handed. I asked which hand should I use and the teachers refused to say which so I copied the person next to me.
Nice to hear Lloyd back up that answer at 15:40 with some credible, real-world experience like C.o.D! That American No. 7 Sentinel's Helmet looks fantastic. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it is, and how poor the visibility might be, yet I still want one.
About being left handed - I am a left hander: I was once at Conway Castle on a tour. As folk may know that the staircases in the towers are clockwise so that a right handed defender has more swing room than a right handed attacker. BUT one in twelve of the towers was anti-clockwise - as 1 in 12 of us is left handed, and could be defended by left handed soldiers.
Regarding the Spec Ops question. I don't think he necessarily meant covert ops, or behind enemy's lines. But instead, soldiers specialized and highly trained in a certain aspect of warfare. This could be elite infantry, being put on the flanks, trained and used only in enveloping the enemy's flank, or something else in that alley.
You guys should do this more often, its quite refreshing to have the man who focuses more on the historical events and academics and the man for combat in the same video. Also, Perhaps upcoming videos of lloyd Sparring? Maybe against Easton?
On that point about handedness, you are very accurate about needing to be trained with both hands. In America there was once a federal agent (FBI, if I recall), who was the literal best shot at the agency. In the opening rounds of a fire fight he took a wound to the right arm, so he swapped to his left hand to fire. Someone literally walked up and shot him point-blank because he quite literally couldn’t shoot left handed to save his life. After that a lot of American institutions started offhanded training.
Children of the Devil; left handed in the US. In the US Army I was in during the past Century we went single file thru the jungle or deserts quite a bit; I being a leader always picked a left handed troop as my slack man, eh? During our adventures in South East Asia left handed riflemen were in great demand. Many times we armed the left handed with the shotgun or the M-79 Grenade Launcher which had a flechet anti-personnel round.
They didn't teach you guys how to shoot weak/support side for close quarters? Nowadays it's pretty normal for training to focus a bit on shooting weak side so you don't need to expose yourself nearly as much when pieing a corner. The hardest part of it though is if you are right eye, and right hand dominate then you might have a little trouble lining up the sights from your left. though in extreme close range you can just point shoot. Well anyway. Thanks for your service.
Interesting viewpoint. Thank you for your service and i hope the agent orange didnt fuck you up like it fucked up my dad. I didn't know the M79 had flechette rounds either!
It is a privilege to serve. They did and do and so do Cops teach off hand shooting. However, it is not natural for a right handed person to pay close attention to the right side. It is a natural for a left hander to do the right side. That is why we wanted the guy right behind us to be left handed if possible and we tried to give them a weapon that lefties could work the easiest for them. The pump shotgun was best 5 or 6 shots compared to the M-79's one shot. A side note; our left handed troops armed with M-16s had a tendency to walk with the safety off as it was hard for a left hand to work. Not a good idea to have the guy right behind you with their safety off, eh?
yeah, you're right. I was assuming you were talking super close quarters, not walking down a trail in single file or staggered column formation looking for a guys hiding anywhere from 10-100m away in the tree line or where ever.. Yeah it would be nice to have both a right, and lefty to make up the point, and tail of your formation. Though I'd definitely want them to be staggered column instead of single file if possible. That way if he trips, and his finger lands inside the trigger guard he's less likely to shoot the guy in-front of him. Though thankfully most units are equipped with ambi fire controls for that reason.
you should do more joint videos. it's a perfect combo, matt provides all the elaborate reasoning, while Lindy amusingly goofs around with whatever. flawless :-D
I think matt would win, right? I get the feeling he is the authority on the fighting techniques and practice itself, hence the founder of the fight camp etc.
Am I the only one fan of the princess bride here? That was an awesome moment when they were talking about being left handed and the person behind them is a left handed. He is even looking at them when Matt says ''left handed were still around'' lol
When I hear medieval special operations, I think about byzantine divers as used in the Battle of the Straits in 965. Maybe they might qualify somewhat as what we might consider special operations today?
That has to be one of the most amusing 30 mins of video, what with Lindy "fighting the phone" and The Crystal Maze reference with Matt doing a passable impersonation of Richard O'Brien (mainly due to the lack of hair). I was laughing out loud, watching this.
1000 tribesmen vs 1 stuart tank 1 leonardo da vinci tank (or was it archimedes? i forgot) vs circum maximus filled to the brim with circus animals (and slaves) 500 british ww1 riflemen vs 1 billion roman soldiers 1 quadrillion electric eels vs 1 magma who would win?
SonofAres I'd say the tank would win if it had enough fuel. It could just drive over the tribesmen and they wouldn't have any way to damage it. It could also drive away faster than the tribesmen could follow it. However, once it runs out of fuel there's no way it could win.
SonofAres Well, yes, if they could trap it in such a way that it got stuck it would lose. However, I'd assume that them fighting a tank would be the first time they ever saw one and I doubt they'd be able to come up with such tactics on the fly.
Loved this video! A real pleasure to see the two of you answering questions together. On a lighthearted note, did not really expect Lindybeige to be so tall, hahaha
Erik Granqvist as a lefty, I am glad that they were putting those heretical right-handed people in their rightful place - sinful serfs deserve the ruler upon their hands
Forced to write with the left hand? That's odd, here in the Netherlands I was forced to write with my right hand. I am ambidextrous though, so I can write with both hands.
Thanks for this upload, I really enjoyed it and learned a lot as usual. I, like Matt, am also left handed when I write (I also use a soup spoon in my left hand) but do everything else right handed. Currently in the British Army you have to be right handed when you use the SA80 Rifle as the spent casing is ejected on the right hand side. If held left handed you would get a face full of hot brass!
Hearing them talk about the British vs Romans reminded me about an Anime called GATE where they pitch a pseudo Roman fantasy army against the modern day Japanese defence forces. Every fight scene is just a hilarious stomping of the medieval level force. The show itself is full of ridiculous fantasy/anime tropes and far from realistic when it comes to the medieval stuff but it’s fun to watch the fight scenes.
Ah, I remember that one. I only watched a few episodes, but it was so obvious that the guy who wrote them had no idea about military tactics. To be fair though, even the modern day North Korean army would defeat any historical (pre-ww1) army.
In regards to the question about making a fort / castle in the shortest time, there's a story about the Japanese shogun, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, building a castle in under a night to attack another castle.
Matt is too classy for the Medieval peasant life, he loves to lecture people about it but its too low-life to liv eit. I would not camp after a hard day of physical exertion if i could have a hot shower and crash into an airconditioned bedroom's bed.
That made me laugh a little, too. He probably spends more days in a year doing FightCamp than any of the participants. None of us are getting any younger, and he may find he just does better nowadays with a real bed. I am 58 years old, and I still camp about 4 to 6 times a year. But I am not getting up to teach dozens of students in the morning when I camp. . The important thing is that he be at his best for his paying students.
Visiting from Scholagladiatoria, first impression - Video editing everywhere! The dissonance between your channels could not be more different. It's like getting hit by culture shock.
I'm left handed. When I play a sport or use a tool I often alternate between hands coincidentally. For example when I play tennis if the ball is heading toward my left I switch my racket to my left hand and if the ball is heading toward my right I switch the racket to my righthand.
You should know that an "Anti Material" rifle which is actually written Anti Materiel, is not some kind of railgun that goes through everything, just a gun like any other that happens to have a quite substantial bullet and used for the destruction of equipment. For example, a .50 cal sniper.
"You should know" translates very badly in text, given the lack of tone. It sounds like you're criticizing his lack of knowledge as opposed to providing an educational snippet (as I'm sure you are). Just for future reference, friend :)
I am sorry, english isn't my native language. And I know that it isn't "some kind of rail gun that goes through everything". Which is why i wrote "body armor", not "everything". Plus there are ammo types with tungsten carbide cores.
4:55 In the roman period the next thing to spec ops would have been specialized auxiliary units, like the batavians, known for being great a swimming, sneaking, riding etc. and so where used for "special operations" usually flanking manouvers and such..
Fun fact about the armor question. The US Marine Corps wore leather neck guards before the Spanish American War that supposedly protected against saber blows. Nowadays it gives them the name "leatherneck" and the neck of their dress blues is reminiscent of the leather guard.
Hey Mr Lindybeige, this was great. I've just been rewatching some older vids and wonder if you might like to talk about the 'The siege of Plataea (429-427 BC)'. I would LOVE to see a long enthusiastic vid on what happened and your take on the siege. I really enjoy your content on that time period. P.S. More Hannibal Stuff. Ha ha ha. Agh love you man. :)
I think the Zulus would actually do better against the British than the Romans would. Because they have essentially the same killing potential, but aren't weighted down by all their useless armor, and could thus close the gap faster.
Maybe a little better but not better enough to make a difference and actually win more than a few skirmishes. All you have to do is take a look at how they fared against the British in South Africa where they won a few battles but ultimately lost against the British and other white settlers, and they were only armed with single shot, breech loading Martini Henry rifles back then.
Isandlhwana is some evidence of your contention. After all, 20,000 nearly fearless warriors from a warrior society are bound to do some damage against a force 1/10th their size, no matter how well armed the smaller force. But then Rourke's Drift and the fact that the Zulus lost that war essentially makes the point moot.
Romans had cavalry though and since the Romans had decent armor the British bayonets would be less effective once the Romans closed the gap, if they had equal numbers the British would win either way but i imagine the Romans would be better.
Left handed people "became" right handed, that is, if you teach a child from birth to use their right hand their right hand will become more dextrous and generally strong. Some Roman parents would even bind the left hands of their babies so the right would develop best
Left handed people tend to learn to do most things right handed, because it is just easier than asking for accommodations in a right handed world. I am left handed, and I learned all martial arts and musical instruments that I ever studied right handed, it is just easier to learn from a teacher in that way. In fact, I get vaguely annoyed when I see people playing musical instruments left handed; what a bother to make of yourself. Left handed martial arts is cool, and may even be advantageous, and I have started to try to drill things both right and left handed just to better my coordination generally.
Interestingly, one of the first resurgences of body armor in the 20th century were the flak jackets that the gunners and bombardiers wore because a bunch of them were dying from shrapnel to the torso that wouldn't actually take down the plain. Also, early tank crews were equipped with some steampunk looking armor that was quite heavy, but they didn't need to march around in it all day. It didn't last long because it still got in the way when men were trying to do their jobs in an enclosed space.
I can't remember where, but I recently saw a statistic that American tanks suffered far fewer casualties than the british during WWII because they wore helmets inside the tank
500,000,000 British SAS with Spandaus (used offensively) with unlimited ammo vs one Roman plebian that has brain damage with a SINGLE BREN gun that has a SINGLE Gren of ammo in it? (Let's be honest, we know the Bren gun has magic bullets that always hit all enemies it is fired at, the plebian just has to pull the trigger and destroy the entire history of the SAS, even wiping their memory from our minds. I just thought it would be a funny joke indicating the Bren gun was anything less than perfect and superior.)
Hurrah! It was a pleasure doing this.
And you did well. Did he really stood on a bucket?
huzzah!
You guys are great, thanks for the collab chaps!
Almogavers (from arabic Al-Mogauar- some sort of mercenaries) whas a guerrilla tactic unit from Aragon kingdom (most Catalans from mountain regions, the poorest) who fight in the bizantine empire, and even establish two counties (Atenas and Neopatria) There is a whole "epopee" about this people and his deeds called "venjança catalana" or "Catalan revenge".
They usualy used some sort of short sword, no armor, one spear, two dards and little bags with flint (legends say they use fear tactics, making sparks while yelling "desperta ferro" in catalans means "weak, iron!" so the enemies can see the lights in the night) they also travels with theis families. Keep the good job, big fan from Catalonia. (btw, not saying this people was like spec ops, but, this people tell the history of many other who fight behind the enemies line. (sorry for the bad english, i'm almost self taught )
Not Sure, to be fair though, there's wayyyy more right handed peeps than left (you sinister person you.....😂) so it kinda makes sense? If you were a producer of things you will make what you can sell most of......however,perhaps your missing a trick my brother.....why not open a left-porium like Ned Flanders in the Simpsons? Help your sinister brethren out? Nawww it's all love, my daughter is a leftie so it's all love.....and I get what your saying it must be pretty annoying for you guys how pretty much everything is designed for the right handers.....crazy how Matt is left handed writer but not fighter.....💯
Lloyd vs Technology.
Tech 1 - Lloyd 0
"FATALITY"
@Dragon50275
Offcourse not.
We have John Connor for that XD
Funny considering Lloyd is the one more capable at video editing of these two.
I'm not so sure. Other than adding the occasional line and pic, all of Lindy's videos are shot in one take, so that there is no necessity to edit them. Matt has even commented about how he admires Lindy managing to do his videos in one take, whereas he has to edit them.
Who would win in a fight: Lindybeige or the 21st century?
Joe Chamberlain The 22nd century.
Lindybeige
Well, Lindybeige is perfectly able to give the 21st century a really hard time, but in the end, the fight would very probably turn in a war of attrition.
And as we all are forced to learn sooner or later, time really is an expert in that kind of warfare. :-)
Lloyd hasn't given in yet!
These two just pitched what could be the greatest tv show ever. Matt the travelling arms dealer and his travelling companion Lindy the relic hunter.
Just sounds like a tomb raider movie, actually.
Wonder of wonders I have just watched another episode of roleplay with Matt playing arms dealer, Jason from Modern History playing knight errant, Metatron a scholar and Lloyd playing extremely crafty servant. Shadiversity runs the game.
If you had 500 Lloyds against 1 iphone who would win? In his living room, camouflage and guerrilla tactics are allowed but he can't get Matt to help.
Requiescat in Pace, sweet prince(s)
Does he have an FS knife?
depends,are the LIoyds beige?
i don't like sand Yes, nice beige uniforms.
+George Hornsby
> If you had 500 Lloyds against 1 iphone who would win?
Lloyd, of course!
Why, you ask? Two words: medieval warhammer. ;-)
Well, at last Romans did actually discover nuclear energy ;-) Enrico Fermi in fact (first nuclear reactor) was a physicist from Rome.
Mitch Paul what happened to humor
What would 500 Riflemen do against 1000 Legionaries?
Shoot twice and go home.
Except in situations like Gate Pah where1500 rifleman ran into trouble because people can dig in in less than a day.
Yeah, assaulting a Roman Fort would be different. However, the comment they read specified an open flat field, which would be bad news for the Romans.
The british would have the advantage of the romans having been dead for hundreds of years already.
Gate Pah was 50 years ago for the troops of the first world war, they'd have been well educated on how to deal with a situation like that. Not to mention the first world war was entirely an exercise in trench warfare.
Especially if you had the highly trained "Old army" of 1914, who had grown up with the lessons of the Boer War.
LindyBeige reminds me of my grandfather who would shake and tilt the smartphone thinking it will scroll faster due to gravity like a mechanical device.
Hmm, not a bad idea. Seems like something Apple would patent...
John Davis It would be pretty annoying actually.
This gosh darn fakakta phone!
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This video is so British that i need a cup of tea to go along with watching it
KnowOne what makes it British in your eyes?
I watched while having a cup of tea. It was the right thing to do.
Two of the most stereotypical British men on UA-cam stand in the British farmlands with people in the backround battling with medieval weapons. (Maybe English instead of British)
KnowOne pot of tea, Old Chap, and a cucumber sandwich.
Maybe a crumpet or two as well.
Best part of this is watching Lloyd struggle with the phone.
Mr Beige, I do hope you realise how much enjoyment and pleasure we viewers get from your vids. Thanks.
Its mr. Loyd.
Baron Lynchhausen Not to people he doesn't know. I dread to think how you were brought up.
Mr. Beige should have been a Reservoir Dogs character, played of course by Lloyd.
i completely dissagree with the opposite of what you mean.
Never in a million years would I have guessed that Lloyd played a CoD game
Oh, yes... And no French
He mentioned it in an older video too.
Or any video game for that matter
And the best one too
His name is in fact “a little girl”, so the Person who killed him, would get the message “you killed a little girl” 😂
"The Romans, after learning to make war after fighting Hannibal"
How is that graphic novel going by the way, Lloyd?
Gizmo Madug true
Gizmo Madug Is there any sort of material available? Even promotional?
You would have to ask Lloyd.
Oof. 4 years later and still...
You wouldn't expect that to be relevant in 4 years 😁
Matts grin after he 1 tap fixed the smartphone after lloyds struggle is pretty much how everyone felt that one time they fixed grandpas phone/computer
I want to let you know that I've recently acquired a beige sweater and I'm enjoying it very much. I was inspired by you to buy it. It is very comfortable and stylish. Thank you for being part of my life.
i really like that you still have no mobile phone. A man who sticks to his principles.
Could you please watch some of the group battles in Vikings or some other movie/series? I feel we are due for a good Loydian rant!
Loyd not wearing a beige gambeson?
But he has beige ties on his white thing
Lindybeige was one of those guys going round with Marathon Pro, lightweight Pro, and Commando Pro in a Ghille suit with a tac knifed D'Eagle.
Seriously Lloyd... Couldn't you find a beige gambeson?
iLindy the portable electric telephone
RyanRyzzo
Powered by charcoal.
Baron Lynchhausen It would just be a steam engine on a trailer that would use it's own smoke for communication.
_Ofenkartoffel_
Plus some kind of sterling sterling sterling engine!
Comes in beige
RyanRyzzo, considering that so many people use smartphones to send text messages rather than make actual calls, technically a smartphone is a wireless telegraph.
Two of my favourite chaps at once , marvelous.
Most entertaining part was seeing Lloyd trying to use his phone.
I would fight in the arena for a Lindybeige's knitted jumper.
Uncle Traveling Matt
Death or glory!!!!!
Jim Morgan Both, bury me in Lindybeige's knitted jumper.
My 82 year old mom could knit you one, you would still need to fight her, she uses a morning star and dagger in the arena.
I’ll take a shirt to fight in the arena. Only I think I’ll take a good red dye or maybe blue?
What about WW1 infantry men vs. Roman spec ops soldiers with katanas?
Two of my favourite youtubers magnify their powers in unison. Great stuff.
the Romans didn't have a lot of coal. An industrial revolution is only possible if the energy source is availible
@Joker It was a good move, rapid shifts in the economy leads to unrest, and he didn't know what great things the steam engine would make possible, it wasn't worth fighting a civil war over trains
This is an oddly entertaining nerd contest.
Another beautiful explaination for why the industrial revolution didn’t happen until when it did is alcohol.
It wasn’t until coffee and tea had largely replaced alcohol as the everyman’s go-to beverage that industry truly kicked off.
And it makes sense.
Alcohol is a ‘downer’, coffee and tea are ‘uppers’.
And in those coffee and tea houses, with men’s minds being opened up, rather than slowed down, “ya know, what if someone...” conversations took place.
Disclaimer- this isn’t an original idea of mine.
I believe I saw it on one of Simeon Whistler’s channels (Today I Found Out, Biographics, etc).
It may have also been from one of the Greene brothers.
Maybeee on of the History Hub channels.
Oh, or maybe Knowing Better.
About those "spec ops". I've recently read a book that mentioned soldiers doing this sort of operations, but in the Renaissance, not the Middle Ages. They used to sneak up to the castle gate, blow it up with explosives and let the rest of the army in. Bartłomiej Nowogrodzki was a known Polish petardier, who learned this craft on Malta and used petards to destroy gates of Turkish fortresses. Later he fought in Polish-Muscovite war of 1609-1611 and helped to conquer the city of Smolensk.
Dear Lindy, I just read a book and imagined the main character as you. Imagining you doing everything was quite awesome.
So many years waiting for this to happen and it finally did. Kudos to you both. My two absolute fave UA-camrs.
where did lindybeige get his gambeson from
Spes, I think.
and would you use it for your gothic suit of armour?
No, it's too bulky and hot for that. Not what it is designed for.
would you buy a arming doublet for your suit of armour?
Spes jackets are really just for hema padding
I laughed so hard picturing the man in beige play call of duty
Bless Lindy for going through life without mobile phone
love when You guys do make videos together - loads of fun and that feel of fun You are having while doing it - can't wait for more of those
"Massive pinch of salt"
I love oxymorons!
Deus Vult, not necessarily. It could be a pinch taken by someone with massive fingers. :-)
You guys compliment each other so well. It's obvious both of you understand the subjects and each offers a different perspective. Amazing video
It's so right that these two characters are not at each other's throats. The cream of the crop for UK.
thank you so much Beige for making all your videos, they help me relax after a long day. i love the characteristic elements your edits make and your general pleasant umbra.
If you give a soldier something, they will find a way to break it.
"the only thing more useful than an iron cock is a broken iron cock"
Great discussion lads! In reply to one question - marines are not special forces, they are very much conventional forces. This isn't to say they're bad - they are expected to undertake a wide variety of combat roles with less preparation than SF.
I love both these creators. please do more together!
One suggestion I have heard as to why armour was abandoned is that, in addition to what is said in the video, musket-resistant armour was simply too heavy to be worth carrying around during campaign, and so had it been issued to the common soldiers it would simply have been abandoned by the roadside.
You people and your dual-wielding shields. It's a conspiracy, I swear.
I maintain that duel shields can only make sense for a caster of some sort.
Love when you two collaborate. Interesting, informative, and entertaining as always.
I am right handed but learnt to write left handed.
I asked which hand should I use and the teachers refused to say which so I copied the person next to me.
Always so very interesting videos! My thanks for the posting of your work. Well Done gentlemen!
Poor lindy trying to get with the times 1:18
Nice to hear Lloyd back up that answer at 15:40 with some credible, real-world experience like C.o.D! That American No. 7 Sentinel's Helmet looks fantastic. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it is, and how poor the visibility might be, yet I still want one.
Im assuming they were fresh out of beige gambesons at fight camp
What a great combination, Matt and Lindy. Thanks for the interesting video.
How much penetration is a spandau capable of?
depends how much ballet is involved in the spandau surely?
more than a katana but i depends on how fast the spandau is traveling... :D (about 1cm of steel)
It'll go clean through a Tiger tank
OOH ER :)
Lindy was arguing that Bren is better than MG42, right? My goodness!
About being left handed - I am a left hander: I was once at Conway Castle on a tour. As folk may know that the staircases in the towers are clockwise so that a right handed defender has more swing room than a right handed attacker. BUT one in twelve of the towers was anti-clockwise - as 1 in 12 of us is left handed, and could be defended by left handed soldiers.
Regarding the Spec Ops question. I don't think he necessarily meant covert ops, or behind enemy's lines. But instead, soldiers specialized and highly trained in a certain aspect of warfare. This could be elite infantry, being put on the flanks, trained and used only in enveloping the enemy's flank, or something else in that alley.
(the example was made up, to illustrate what I think author of the question meant.)
I think your assumption is probably right. I believe that they felt rushed when creating a video together so they interpreted it somewhat incorrectly.
I didn't remember the first question; however, I went back and watched it again. I like that, while reading it, you corrected his grammar.
I feel kinship with Lloyd in that I also do not have a smart phone.
Luddite's Unite!
i wish i hadn't gotten one but im extremely social so not having one is too isolating for me.
You guys should do this more often, its quite refreshing to have the man who focuses more on the historical events and academics and the man for combat in the same video.
Also, Perhaps upcoming videos of lloyd Sparring?
Maybe against Easton?
It's so funny seeing you struggling to use a phone 😂
On that point about handedness, you are very accurate about needing to be trained with both hands.
In America there was once a federal agent (FBI, if I recall), who was the literal best shot at the agency.
In the opening rounds of a fire fight he took a wound to the right arm, so he swapped to his left hand to fire.
Someone literally walked up and shot him point-blank because he quite literally couldn’t shoot left handed to save his life.
After that a lot of American institutions started offhanded training.
Children of the Devil; left handed in the US. In the US Army I was in during the past Century we went single file thru the jungle or deserts quite a bit; I being a leader always picked a left handed troop as my slack man, eh? During our adventures in South East Asia left handed riflemen were in great demand. Many times we armed the left handed with the shotgun or the M-79 Grenade Launcher which had a flechet anti-personnel round.
They didn't teach you guys how to shoot weak/support side for close quarters? Nowadays it's pretty normal for training to focus a bit on shooting weak side so you don't need to expose yourself nearly as much when pieing a corner. The hardest part of it though is if you are right eye, and right hand dominate then you might have a little trouble lining up the sights from your left. though in extreme close range you can just point shoot. Well anyway. Thanks for your service.
Interesting viewpoint. Thank you for your service and i hope the agent orange didnt fuck you up like it fucked up my dad. I didn't know the M79 had flechette rounds either!
It is a privilege to serve. They did and do and so do Cops teach off hand shooting. However, it is not natural for a right handed person to pay close attention to the right side. It is a natural for a left hander to do the right side. That is why we wanted the guy right behind us to be left handed if possible and we tried to give them a weapon that lefties could work the easiest for them. The pump shotgun was best 5 or 6 shots compared to the M-79's one shot. A side note; our left handed troops armed with M-16s had a tendency to walk with the safety off as it was hard for a left hand to work. Not a good idea to have the guy right behind you with their safety off, eh?
yeah, you're right. I was assuming you were talking super close quarters, not walking down a trail in single file or staggered column formation looking for a guys hiding anywhere from 10-100m away in the tree line or where ever.. Yeah it would be nice to have both a right, and lefty to make up the point, and tail of your formation. Though I'd definitely want them to be staggered column instead of single file if possible. That way if he trips, and his finger lands inside the trigger guard he's less likely to shoot the guy in-front of him. Though thankfully most units are equipped with ambi fire controls for that reason.
you should do more joint videos. it's a perfect combo, matt provides all the elaborate reasoning, while Lindy amusingly goofs around with whatever. flawless :-D
I would really want to see 1v1 sparring matches between Lindy, Matt, Skall and others.
I think matt would win, right? I get the feeling he is the authority on the fighting techniques and practice itself, hence the founder of the fight camp etc.
Am I the only one fan of the princess bride here? That was an awesome moment when they were talking about being left handed and the person behind them is a left handed. He is even looking at them when Matt says ''left handed were still around'' lol
When I hear medieval special operations, I think about byzantine divers as used in the Battle of the Straits in 965. Maybe they might qualify somewhat as what we might consider special operations today?
Roman 'Urinators' were employed by Septimius Severus during the siege of Byzantium in 190aC
That has to be one of the most amusing 30 mins of video, what with Lindy "fighting the phone" and The Crystal Maze reference with Matt doing a passable impersonation of Richard O'Brien (mainly due to the lack of hair). I was laughing out loud, watching this.
1000 tribesmen vs 1 stuart tank
1 leonardo da vinci tank (or was it archimedes? i forgot) vs circum maximus filled to the brim with circus animals (and slaves)
500 british ww1 riflemen vs 1 billion roman soldiers
1 quadrillion electric eels vs 1 magma
who would win?
Onetwo Threefour
1. Stuart Tank
2. Assuming no artillery/ air support romans
3. Animals
SonofAres I'd say the tank would win if it had enough fuel. It could just drive over the tribesmen and they wouldn't have any way to damage it. It could also drive away faster than the tribesmen could follow it.
However, once it runs out of fuel there's no way it could win.
SonofAres Well, yes, if they could trap it in such a way that it got stuck it would lose. However, I'd assume that them fighting a tank would be the first time they ever saw one and I doubt they'd be able to come up with such tactics on the fly.
Onetwo Threefour ...the circus maximus was a chariot racing arena, not a fighting arena.
purpleanex and there were never one billion roman soldiers
Let's see. 30 minutes of Lindy and Matt chatting about history? I'm in!
that shirt/tunic thing in insufficiently beige.
even the strings are only light brown!
EndlessVacuum absolutely heretical
Loved this video! A real pleasure to see the two of you answering questions together. On a lighthearted note, did not really expect Lindybeige to be so tall, hahaha
About lefthanders: here in Sweden, they forced kids to learn to write with left hand up to the 60's.
Erik Granqvist as a lefty, I am glad that they were putting those heretical right-handed people in their rightful place - sinful serfs deserve the ruler upon their hands
Erik Granqvist wait what?
Forced to write with the left hand? That's odd, here in the Netherlands I was forced to write with my right hand. I am ambidextrous though, so I can write with both hands.
qwertyuiopzxcfgh you are ambi because of the forcing probably. God i hate correction. Its the concept more than the act
Erik Granqvist vänta va?
Such a well-informed and interesting video! Entertaining as well. If I were a teacher I would be recommending you to my pupils.
When was Blood stew implemented for food at war ? Do people still eat Blood stew during war ?
Didnt u have some kind of dark red sausage?
In the North West of the UK Black puddings are still popular. They are basically a blood sausage.
Needs salt and a good splodge of English mustard.
Guys! This is how history is should be taught! Thank you!
Lloyd holds a mobile phone. First time I've seen it. Was the glove so that it didn't contaminate you? I hear tin foil hats also good.
I think Lloyd might be a Victorian time-traveller, so we should cut him some slack when it comes to such wizardry.
I'm in love with the sound quality in this one (and the other one)
Whenever I see a Lindybeige video I instantly click.
Also "First", I guess...
Shame on you for commenting before watching, shame!
Its a miracle we get to enjoy all of your amazing videos, when we get to witness your skills with a mobiel phone
Look closely and you'll see people throwing pomels.
Wha.....there was one!! Did you see??
That can't be right, I didn't see anyone ended rightly.
Not possible Britain didn't report any nukes
They are just training it. You can trust me on that.
They're throwing the pommels to deflect the fire arrows away from the Spandaus.
Thanks for this upload, I really enjoyed it and learned a lot as usual. I, like Matt, am also left handed when I write (I also use a soup spoon in my left hand) but do everything else right handed. Currently in the British Army you have to be right handed when you use the SA80 Rifle as the spent casing is ejected on the right hand side. If held left handed you would get a face full of hot brass!
Hearing them talk about the British vs Romans reminded me about an Anime called GATE where they pitch a pseudo Roman fantasy army against the modern day Japanese defence forces. Every fight scene is just a hilarious stomping of the medieval level force. The show itself is full of ridiculous fantasy/anime tropes and far from realistic when it comes to the medieval stuff but it’s fun to watch the fight scenes.
Kaihlik
Second that!
Kaihlik Hetialia
"A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"
is an 1889 novel by American humorist and writer Mark Twain .
Ah, I remember that one. I only watched a few episodes, but it was so obvious that the guy who wrote them had no idea about military tactics.
To be fair though, even the modern day North Korean army would defeat any historical (pre-ww1) army.
Drifters kinda does the same thing, but with black powder weapons instead of modern.
In regards to the question about making a fort / castle in the shortest time, there's a story about the Japanese shogun, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, building a castle in under a night to attack another castle.
TIL - Matt Easton, founder of FightCamp - has camping areas - stays in a hotel.
He's probably like me. Did camping, found it fun for a time, now finds an actual bed provides better rest.
Makes sense, was 'in the cadets' pahaha
Matt is too classy for the Medieval peasant life, he loves to lecture people about it but its too low-life to liv eit. I would not camp after a hard day of physical exertion if i could have a hot shower and crash into an airconditioned bedroom's bed.
That made me laugh a little, too.
He probably spends more days in a year doing FightCamp than any of the participants. None of us are getting any younger, and he may find he just does better nowadays with a real bed.
I am 58 years old, and I still camp about 4 to 6 times a year. But I am not getting up to teach dozens of students in the morning when I camp. . The important thing is that he be at his best for his paying students.
Must be because of that "goodnight" piece of chocolate that some hotels offer.
Visiting from Scholagladiatoria, first impression - Video editing everywhere! The dissonance between your channels could not be more different. It's like getting hit by culture shock.
I wonder if Lloyd would buy a mobile phone if it chops onions :)
only if it has a pummel
He likes his onions squashed instead of chopped? That would rightly end my appetite atleast.
I'm left handed. When I play a sport or use a tool I often alternate between hands coincidentally. For example when I play tennis if the ball is heading toward my left I switch my racket to my left hand and if the ball is heading toward my right I switch the racket to my righthand.
Jeremiah i bat in cricket right hander and bowl left handed
Ultimately every "body armor" will stop working when facing anti materiel rifles.
Han Yolo for now.
You should know that an "Anti Material" rifle which is actually written Anti Materiel, is not some kind of railgun that goes through everything, just a gun like any other that happens to have a quite substantial bullet and used for the destruction of equipment. For example, a .50 cal sniper.
In english that sounds like some kinda particle or beam gun.
"You should know" translates very badly in text, given the lack of tone. It sounds like you're criticizing his lack of knowledge as opposed to providing an educational snippet (as I'm sure you are).
Just for future reference, friend :)
I am sorry, english isn't my native language.
And I know that it isn't "some kind of rail gun that goes through everything". Which is why i wrote "body armor", not "everything". Plus there are ammo types with tungsten carbide cores.
4:55 In the roman period the next thing to spec ops would have been specialized auxiliary units, like the batavians, known for being great a swimming, sneaking, riding etc. and so where used for "special operations" usually flanking manouvers and such..
Kids dont say "big them up"
Kids used to, about 20 years ago :-P
Fun fact about the armor question. The US Marine Corps wore leather neck guards before the Spanish American War that supposedly protected against saber blows. Nowadays it gives them the name "leatherneck" and the neck of their dress blues is reminiscent of the leather guard.
Demonetized for gladiator in the title.
Hey Mr Lindybeige, this was great. I've just been rewatching some older vids and wonder if you might like to talk about the 'The siege of Plataea (429-427 BC)'. I would LOVE to see a long enthusiastic vid on what happened and your take on the siege. I really enjoy your content on that time period. P.S. More Hannibal Stuff. Ha ha ha. Agh love you man. :)
I think the Zulus would actually do better against the British than the Romans would. Because they have essentially the same killing potential, but aren't weighted down by all their useless armor, and could thus close the gap faster.
And they also fought in less dense formations.
British Cavalry.
Maybe a little better but not better enough to make a difference and actually win more than a few skirmishes. All you have to do is take a look at how they fared against the British in South Africa where they won a few battles but ultimately lost against the British and other white settlers, and they were only armed with single shot, breech loading Martini Henry rifles back then.
Isandlhwana is some evidence of your contention. After all, 20,000 nearly fearless warriors from a warrior society are bound to do some damage against a force 1/10th their size, no matter how well armed the smaller force. But then Rourke's Drift and the fact that the Zulus lost that war essentially makes the point moot.
Romans had cavalry though and since the Romans had decent armor the British bayonets would be less effective once the Romans closed the gap, if they had equal numbers the British would win either way but i imagine the Romans would be better.
Great video, you're great lloyd as usual and with Matt it's even better!
Left handed people "became" right handed, that is, if you teach a child from birth to use their right hand their right hand will become more dextrous and generally strong.
Some Roman parents would even bind the left hands of their babies so the right would develop best
Actually no. I was taught this and because of the dominance of the neural connections which cannot be changed I'm still a leftie.
Left handed people tend to learn to do most things right handed, because it is just easier than asking for accommodations in a right handed world. I am left handed, and I learned all martial arts and musical instruments that I ever studied right handed, it is just easier to learn from a teacher in that way.
In fact, I get vaguely annoyed when I see people playing musical instruments left handed; what a bother to make of yourself. Left handed martial arts is cool, and may even be advantageous, and I have started to try to drill things both right and left handed just to better my coordination generally.
Quite a few stutterers among the Romans,Yes?
richard wysham wouldnt be surprised
A V at best this would make you ambidextrous.
At worst mentally ill and ambisinisterous
I was thinking of the first question throughout the whole video and I agree, the person asking it certainly had a point.
Can the lindy hop be incorporated in HEMA?
Of course. A great way to distract a foe.
Or charm him and make him join your side.
Interestingly, one of the first resurgences of body armor in the 20th century were the flak jackets that the gunners and bombardiers wore because a bunch of them were dying from shrapnel to the torso that wouldn't actually take down the plain. Also, early tank crews were equipped with some steampunk looking armor that was quite heavy, but they didn't need to march around in it all day. It didn't last long because it still got in the way when men were trying to do their jobs in an enclosed space.
Oh, I was halfway through when I said that
I can't remember where, but I recently saw a statistic that American tanks suffered far fewer casualties than the british during WWII because they wore helmets inside the tank
500,000,000 British SAS with Spandaus (used offensively) with unlimited ammo vs one Roman plebian that has brain damage with a SINGLE BREN gun that has a SINGLE Gren of ammo in it?
(Let's be honest, we know the Bren gun has magic bullets that always hit all enemies it is fired at, the plebian just has to pull the trigger and destroy the entire history of the SAS, even wiping their memory from our minds. I just thought it would be a funny joke indicating the Bren gun was anything less than perfect and superior.)
The Spandaus, truly the weapon to surpass Metal Gear. Unless there is a pommel being thrown, then there might be a match for the Spandaus.
A Spandau with an undermounted pommel launcher.
Ok but what if the SAS had katanas?
LoneW0lf11 or you could give them a plastic spoon (unless you think that would be too much stronger than the katana)
I love how Luke got instantly skipped when his quesiton came around but in the end got his question answered.