Appreciate the videos to show how hard it can be to install home electrical. As a master electrician, I am putting a notice on this video stating that 6awg Romex is not rated to be installed on a 60amp breaker. The NEC 110.3(B) states, listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in the listing or labeling. This rule is easily overlooked. Per manufacturer rules of all romex you shall install to the ampacity of no more than 60 degrees. This means 55 amps max on 6awg romex. No exceptions. Please correct future installs and remember electricians are obligated to install to the minimum guidelines on the code book regardless of what your jurisdiction says , you cannot go beneath it. Feel free to use 4awg aluminum SEU or 6awg copper SEU or use conduit 6awg thwn.
did you cut out those "access holes" inside your garage or were those already there? Also, how did you access the compartment directly below your breaker? I have the same breaker and don't have access to that part. You can see the keyhole betwee 0:21 and 0:22
My electrician also used 6/2 Romex with a 60amp breaker. Kind of annoys me that electricians don't know 6/2 Romex is only good for 44A continuous. Now I have to commission my wall connector for a 50 amp breaker (40 amps continuous) and can't get the full 48 amps the wall connector is capable of. Running new wire would be a hassle in my situation.
@@vipelectric10 Hey ViP. i think the tesla draws 48amps but requires 60amp breaker. The wire should match/exceed the breaker for safety regulations. I ended using 6/3 cable instead of the 4/3. The #6 wire is good for 55 amps and the #4 is good for #70. I hope that helps you out and who ever happens to read looking for more detail!
A torque driver is necessary to get the correct torque of 50in.lbs as shown inside the wall connector panel. Exceeding (or for that matter not meeting) that torque value may cause problems later on. (see ua-cam.com/video/zsbSj0a-BfE/v-deo.htmlsi=kz41no-0xhl3HRiu&t=857)
NO COMMENTS ON THIS VIDEO (The way He is using on the fishing line is wrong too ) we support to feed from the small hole to a big hole that will be easier for him
I'm not electrician but I know that 6/2 romex is rated for 55A max but since it is hardwired to the Tesla charger and it only draw a max of 48A per documentation it should be fine.
6awg wire comes in different temperature ratings. A 6awg or 6/3 can be rated up to 75 amps at 90 degrees, or 60 in real world because of the 20% safety cushion.
Wow, ANOTHER "electrician" using the Romex that is NOT heat rated to 90deg. C. as Required to feed the 48A rate from a 60A breaker. @matthewgotay1027 spells this out clearly. Only THHN single strand 6ga. through conduit is up to Code, and if the Romex is used, the Tesla app. MUST limit the current to 40A from a 50A breaker. Of course, the next owner can just jack it up to full power, risking overheating in the wall. Not all electricians do it right, but at least most know why some things that look the same aren't.
That is not Romex he is using. I just love it when an unqualified person says stuff about a Master electrician, and don't know what they are talking about....
Appreciate the videos to show how hard it can be to install home electrical. As a master electrician, I am putting a notice on this video stating that 6awg Romex is not rated to be installed on a 60amp breaker. The NEC 110.3(B) states, listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in the listing or labeling. This rule is easily overlooked. Per manufacturer rules of all romex you shall install to the ampacity of no more than 60 degrees. This means 55 amps max on 6awg romex. No exceptions. Please correct future installs and remember electricians are obligated to install to the minimum guidelines on the code book regardless of what your jurisdiction says , you cannot go beneath it. Feel free to use 4awg aluminum SEU or 6awg copper SEU or use conduit 6awg thwn.
It’s listed on the product because of NEC 334.80 (ampacity for NM cable)
why are all youtube electricians using 6awg Romex for 60amp breaker? 55 amps max is for 6awg romex.
Because charger only uses 48amps. Teslas instructions in the manual states 6 gauge awg
Can you use 6/3 Romex for these in wall with 50 amp breaker?
did you cut out those "access holes" inside your garage or were those already there?
Also, how did you access the compartment directly below your breaker? I have the same breaker and don't have access to that part. You can see the keyhole betwee 0:21 and 0:22
He cut those and did DW repair.
Tesla Charger Installation. If you are in Sacramento Area email me and I can help you with this Installation .
He should torque the breaker and the Gen3 charger.
That wire looks kind of thin to be 4 awg which is required for a 60 amp circuit
Wrong.
6/2 better use 50A breaker I think
60A
Does Gen 3 wall connectors require or recommend to have NIMA outlet or they can directly wired in?
If both can be done then which one is recommended?
directly wired
My electrician also used 6/2 Romex with a 60amp breaker. Kind of annoys me that electricians don't know 6/2 Romex is only good for 44A continuous. Now I have to commission my wall connector for a 50 amp breaker (40 amps continuous) and can't get the full 48 amps the wall connector is capable of. Running new wire would be a hassle in my situation.
What should he have used then?
@@mariodevera2587 According to code, assuming a 60 amp breaker, #6 THHN in conduit works…or you could go with #4 Romex.
@@TrendyStone what code are you going by?
55A continuous, 60deg C, per NEC chart.
@ NEC
4/3 wire is best for a 60amp circuit.
Do you even know what an EV charging station draws? No, you don't bc you wouldn't have said that
@@vipelectric10 Hey ViP. i think the tesla draws 48amps but requires 60amp breaker. The wire should match/exceed the breaker for safety regulations. I ended using 6/3 cable instead of the 4/3. The #6 wire is good for 55 amps and the #4 is good for #70. I hope that helps you out and who ever happens to read looking for more detail!
Tesla document recommend that rear entry wires should be route to the top and then down - not from bottom up.
Doesn't matter.
No torque?
He did. By hand. Don't worry, it's tight enough.
A torque driver is necessary to get the correct torque of 50in.lbs as shown inside the wall connector panel. Exceeding (or for that matter not meeting) that torque value may cause problems later on. (see ua-cam.com/video/zsbSj0a-BfE/v-deo.htmlsi=kz41no-0xhl3HRiu&t=857)
NO COMMENTS ON THIS VIDEO (The way He is using on the fishing line is wrong too ) we support to feed from the small hole to a big hole that will be easier for him
Agreed
Interesting, Nice job
6/2 romex is not good for 60A
I'm not electrician but I know that 6/2 romex is rated for 55A max but since it is hardwired to the Tesla charger and it only draw a max of 48A per documentation it should be fine.
@@mikeinsugarland If you use 60A breaker you have to use 60A wire. while tesla charger will use 48A you will need 60A breaker.
What wire do you recommend for a 60A?
@@anasazi6906 4/2 if nm-b or tray cable. 6/2 if mc or using conduit. not sure about SER cable…
6awg wire comes in different temperature ratings. A 6awg or 6/3 can be rated up to 75 amps at 90 degrees, or 60 in real world because of the 20% safety cushion.
G.o.a.t
Way to put the nasty flashlight into your mouth
Wow, ANOTHER "electrician" using the Romex that is NOT heat rated to 90deg. C. as Required to feed the 48A rate from a 60A breaker. @matthewgotay1027 spells this out clearly. Only THHN single strand 6ga. through conduit is up to Code, and if the Romex is used, the Tesla app. MUST limit the current to 40A from a 50A breaker. Of course, the next owner can just jack it up to full power, risking overheating in the wall. Not all electricians do it right, but at least most know why some things that look the same aren't.
That is not Romex he is using. I just love it when an unqualified person says stuff about a Master electrician, and don't know what they are talking about....