I always figured he's named such for his mysterious outward appearance to most of his clients and mercs: a shadowy silhouette communicating via holocall, allowing only his dapper, luxurious cyberhands to be visible. If you ignore the real world context of the name (I know, it's not easy to, especially if you've been unlucky enough to actually see it), I think it's a pretty sick persona for a fixer.
@@treefingers6572 Hey, if we're supposed to ignore that even at the time an atom smasher was a really dated allusion and corny pun to make for a supposedly deadly serious killer, we can make allowances for Hands.
9:25 im sure its been mentioned already, but if not, Morgan Blackhand is also the player character of Mike Pondsmith, the creator of Cyberpunk the tabletop game.
Woolie's V: *looks around after accidentally dropping a grenade* Oh god did you guys see that? That Cyberpsycho Lt. Mower just threw a grenade at those perfectly innocent bystanders. Someone needs to stop that menace.
8:27 fun fact Morgan Blackhand was also Adam Smashers real nemesis because as opposed to smasher he's full organic and specializes in non lethal approaches to every run he did, Smasher hates this about Blackhand even more so that he became the public image and go to for what it means to be a solo in the culture. Bro was the one who they used for all the weapon catalogs from 2020, so bro was well versed and hyped on lethal tech and weaponry he just chose non lethal as like he's kenpachi zaraki looking for a challenge
Morgan isn't full organic. He just has a modest amount of selected cyberware, about in line with a typical player Solo instead of cramming in every bell and whistle and turning his junk into an egg whisk or whatever. He also doesn't do non-lethal for the challenge (he's a pragmatist that would hate that kind of cocky idiocy), he does it because he regards it as more professional.
Morgan Blackhand did *not* save Johnny. Adam Smasher literally cut Johnny in half with a machinegun at Arisaka Tower according to the pen and paper. Morgan was Adam's rival though and likely is the only person to go toe to toe and live.
honestly the way the Arasaka Tower disaster is depicted in the game is such a clusterfrick. even on my first playthrough i couldn't tell whether Johnny's memories were always meant to be *totally* fabricated (as opposed to smaller stuff like making himself look cooler or thinking Smasher was his rival), or if that was the result of hasty rewrites to fit this game's disparate version of events - and, arguably, of Johnny - into the tabletop canon. Alt handwaves that they're unreliable, but it seems nobody really questions his memory to the degree you'd think they would for such an important event. like, it's already a really confusing and hectic thing where nobody really knows what went down, who set off the nuke, etc. shouldn't V have dug into the inconsistencies with Johnny's story a little more? and you'd think that would especially alarm Johnny since basically all he has now is his memory. where's it leave him if he can't even trust that? i don't even know why Johnny would gradually come to think he was the one behind all of it, since even in his flashback he's not exactly happy about the collateral damage. he'd make himself more important, yes - make himself the killer of like, 10k mostly innocent people? i don't know why he'd go for that.
Which edition pen and paper stated Johnny got cut in half? Would this game be more recent and retcon that since it'd be hard to use Soulkiller on a dismembered corpse? Regardless of anything else, Johnny getting engram-ized is one thing that has to have happened. Wouldn't he have to have been alive for that?
It would appear those 2 books released in 1997. Unreliable narrator or not, the game is way way more recent so I'd assume it retcons those books to an extent.
Barry is so fuckin’ dead 😂 It’s not even Woolie’s fault. That side quest is so easy to fuck up. Because of the way the timing works it’s like, impossible for it to slot in naturally to your post heist progression and questing. And that’s not even considering how you have to say the right things.
@@NEEDbacon I didn't want to needle or push into the guy's business more than I already have, so I didn't ask about how his friend died, and never got to go check out the burial site. FUCK ME FOR WANTING TO RESPECT BOUNDARIES. So you know what? In the Evelyn situation later, yes, that situation, I felt the need to pick the blue optional dialogue that was clearly inappropriate because I didn't want to get locked out of something else, and Judy just got mad at me and I felt bad.
Coming back to the apartment to discover Judy left a load of drinks arranged in a heart shape for me is one of my favourite little things in this game. She’s such a dork under all the frustrated cynicism.
8:54 Damn, somebody spoiled the fact that Johnny is an unreliable narrator already. Yeah, Johnny one sidedly sees himself as Smasher's rival, Smasher one sidedly saw himself as Blackhand's rival, and Blackhand is the true chad of the original games. Johnny actually died the first time he saw Smasher, and the second part is made up in his head as 'they left me behind' as an excuse... Because nothing is ever Johnny's fault. Edit: P.S. the song that was on for a split second was Disrupt and Disorder. That song is badass.
I don't think the 'unreliable narrator' thing is as extreme as everyone says, is it really that hard to believe they just upped Johnny's accomplishments for the game cause they knew they weren't going to majorly include Blackhand? Like, we have a scene of Johnny getting the engram made as he's strapped into soulkiller, Adam Smasher held onto his gun AND his car, and everyone in night city talks about "Legendary Rockerboy Johnny Silverhand'. He definitely has an inflated ego but the "he got cut in half by a shotgun without a fight and Adam doesn't even remember him" shit just doesn't feel true with what's shown in game
@DTKloves8 SPOILERS BELOW It's why smasher sounds so incredulous when you say, 'Silverhand sends his regards.' Morgan is still in canon, meaning the story likely played out like the original tabletop. It should also be mentioned that there are a lot of other small conflicts of information, which are confirmed. Don't get me wrong, Johnny probably didn't go out like a complete punk, but he does outright make stuff up, even in his own head, and it is even called out sometimes.
@Wixvhen yeah I agree with most that, and Johnny def wasn't as important to Smasher as Morgan was, but I just dont agree with the people that say Smasher didnt care about him at all. I think Johnny was more important to the majority of Night City, and Smasher clearly enjoys the bragging rights of killing him.
I feel so bad for Woolie being pulled this way and that by quests: man just wants to play and he feels like he has to walk on eggshells. Around 17:00 when the neighbor quest comes up, he sounds like he's been clubbed over the head.
his reputation aside, he's also mentioned in one of the news casts as a mysterious black-armed guy who mowed down an army of Lazarus goons in NC, so people probably just assume it's him. it also mentions that he's gotten pretty portly over the years, Steven Seagal-style. few too many scopdogs i guess.
@@matt6231 I know you ideally wanna send his body to his family instead of Viktor but I think he could have still done it if he didn't spend a bunch of time doing NCPD missions.
@@storiesfromtheabyss9808 nope, has nothing to do with time spent in missions. I am also fairly certain that this game contains exactly zero time-sensitive quests.
@@matt6231 There 100% are time sensitive quests in this game. They start one in this episode, if you wait to long to help your neighbor Barry he kills himself.
I believe as an important detail, especially when trying to not kill folks, where you impact folks matters for whether or not it actually kills them. Example, aiming for legs or limbs will give you a much better chance at leaving them alive VS killing them, even with lethal weapons.
Maaan i remember before the proper ps5 patch came out i got 2077 at target for like 12 bucks on a ridiculous sale, and did enjoy it when it WORKED. Near the end of the game i was fast traveling to 99% of my destinations because it was actually faster to do that then try to drive there and needing to wait a whole minute and a half for the rest of the world to load, if it ever did
Woolie: "I haven't had a vehicle up until now." That car that I let Jackie drive in the prologue and that he brought back to me and that I got into after the heist and that was hit by a rogue delamain and then I got a call from delamain saying to come by their HQ to get my car fixed up isn't mine.
I liked Judy on my first playthrough, but replaying the game made me more annoyed at her than anything. I think it also has to do with the Clouds questline. All in all, she's not enough punk IMO. Visually - sure, but her persona is pretty bland. While you could say the same about Ward, I believe he's truly punk because he's so genuine, and in this city it's contrarian and thus counts as being punk.
The literal cop is more punk than the lesbian woman who independently organises the violent takeover of a shithead run club? Haha I get what you mean about him feeling more down to earth a lot of the time! But i do think being a cop and being punk is kinda an oxymoron
@thisidforsjit Hehe, yeah it sounds silly, but I still think it's the case, he sticks out like a sore thumb, he has more nomad vibes than a city resident. Besides, NCPD is nothing but another gang in the city, just the biggest and strongest one, so some of those folks on the force deserve a bit of street cred.
Woolie continues to be a liar, he said in the podcast like he had preset goals every stream to ensure he made consistent progress and so he can argue "it was impossible to shave a single second from the LP". "Today I will play the video game and do whatever I want." is not a plan, it's what you do with every game and the reason they take forever. Why have mods curate your LP if you'd do this anyway? There is no way people actually enjoy this.
What? An episode ago he clarified that he wanted to do a main mission, talk to a fixer and do a cyberpsycho mission before the end of that recording session. He did that in this episode, ending just before getting to said cyberpsycho. What are you talking about? I'll call him a liar all day, when he lies, but he's literally following his checklist as outlined. It's an open world game. He made a list and is following it getting side tracked along the way. That's the intended experience. He's experiencing the world at his pace. I'm perfectly cool to see him live in Night City. It's neat to see people experience the world for the first time.
The idea of some discord boardroom people having to tell Woolie how to play a video game is both really lame and really funny. They were clearly cooking too when they told Woolie to avoid side quests and EVERYONE in the audience liked that decision.
@@ca9172 What do you classify as a side-quest? The yellow circle quests (non-main, side quests) are mandatory IMO, most are very good to great. The blue square gigs are mostly skippable - some are good, but most are filler. He SHOULD do the yellow ones, it's such a huge miss if they aren't included. What, you think Kerry's sidequests or the Peralez' ones, etc should be skipped? 'Everybody liked that' - yeah, nah mate.
And personally I'm here for that. Fuck it, I'm game for episodes with absolutely zero progress if it means Woolie and Reggie go on a deep dive discussion about some of the world's fucked up aspects.
Woolie, just in time for the legit Balatro crossover.
Mr. Hands has a funny name, yet he is the GOAT fixer.
And man, does he have some drip.
Mr hands isn't horsing around
I always figured he's named such for his mysterious outward appearance to most of his clients and mercs: a shadowy silhouette communicating via holocall, allowing only his dapper, luxurious cyberhands to be visible.
If you ignore the real world context of the name (I know, it's not easy to, especially if you've been unlucky enough to actually see it), I think it's a pretty sick persona for a fixer.
@@treefingers6572 Hey, if we're supposed to ignore that even at the time an atom smasher was a really dated allusion and corny pun to make for a supposedly deadly serious killer, we can make allowances for Hands.
He has no style, he has no grace. This kong has a funny face.
9:25 im sure its been mentioned already, but if not, Morgan Blackhand is also the player character of Mike Pondsmith, the creator of Cyberpunk the tabletop game.
I thought that was Spider Murphy?
@storiesfromtheabyss9808 Spider-Murphy is the player character his wife made.
@@WiCharizard
Aw that's sweet that they included her. I always thought she had a sick gimmick for a character that's only there for like 5 minutes.
you don't visit Kiwi's apartment sometime in the future, you did visit Kiwi's apartment. Regina is set up in Kiwi's old apartment.
I think Woolie was saying that he doesn't remember ever being in Kiwi's apartment when he watched the show
Woolie's V: *looks around after accidentally dropping a grenade* Oh god did you guys see that? That Cyberpsycho Lt. Mower just threw a grenade at those perfectly innocent bystanders. Someone needs to stop that menace.
Gonna need a Woolie vs. The Algorithm super cut of all the accidental grenade throws when this is over.
"Now, the game is fixed..."
*Balatro looking around confused*
"No, Not you. You're fine"
8:27 fun fact Morgan Blackhand was also Adam Smashers real nemesis because as opposed to smasher he's full organic and specializes in non lethal approaches to every run he did, Smasher hates this about Blackhand even more so that he became the public image and go to for what it means to be a solo in the culture. Bro was the one who they used for all the weapon catalogs from 2020, so bro was well versed and hyped on lethal tech and weaponry he just chose non lethal as like he's kenpachi zaraki looking for a challenge
Morgan isn't full organic. He just has a modest amount of selected cyberware, about in line with a typical player Solo instead of cramming in every bell and whistle and turning his junk into an egg whisk or whatever. He also doesn't do non-lethal for the challenge (he's a pragmatist that would hate that kind of cocky idiocy), he does it because he regards it as more professional.
Oh man, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens if he finds the Sinnerman quest
I've been waiting since the game came out for this exact moment.
And River Ward's quest line with The Hunt.
Hey, it's the one comment that shows up on every video that woolie and cyberpunk have been mentioned on.
@@ThatGrumpyOldBastardAnd there's the other
Morgan Blackhand did *not* save Johnny. Adam Smasher literally cut Johnny in half with a machinegun at Arisaka Tower according to the pen and paper. Morgan was Adam's rival though and likely is the only person to go toe to toe and live.
@@RicochetForcea shame they don’t have more unique drinks at the afterlife
honestly the way the Arasaka Tower disaster is depicted in the game is such a clusterfrick. even on my first playthrough i couldn't tell whether Johnny's memories were always meant to be *totally* fabricated (as opposed to smaller stuff like making himself look cooler or thinking Smasher was his rival), or if that was the result of hasty rewrites to fit this game's disparate version of events - and, arguably, of Johnny - into the tabletop canon. Alt handwaves that they're unreliable, but it seems nobody really questions his memory to the degree you'd think they would for such an important event.
like, it's already a really confusing and hectic thing where nobody really knows what went down, who set off the nuke, etc. shouldn't V have dug into the inconsistencies with Johnny's story a little more? and you'd think that would especially alarm Johnny since basically all he has now is his memory. where's it leave him if he can't even trust that? i don't even know why Johnny would gradually come to think he was the one behind all of it, since even in his flashback he's not exactly happy about the collateral damage. he'd make himself more important, yes - make himself the killer of like, 10k mostly innocent people? i don't know why he'd go for that.
Which edition pen and paper stated Johnny got cut in half? Would this game be more recent and retcon that since it'd be hard to use Soulkiller on a dismembered corpse? Regardless of anything else, Johnny getting engram-ized is one thing that has to have happened. Wouldn't he have to have been alive for that?
@ the books in question are stormfront and shockwave
It would appear those 2 books released in 1997. Unreliable narrator or not, the game is way way more recent so I'd assume it retcons those books to an extent.
ah but you see Woolie. They DON'T have the internet.
34:05 - Mr Bill: _"Oh no, it's Mr. Hands and he's gonna be Mean to me!!"_
Judy, a thing of beauty.
Jokers? Tarot? This is truly Balatro 2077.
Barry is so fuckin’ dead 😂
It’s not even Woolie’s fault. That side quest is so easy to fuck up. Because of the way the timing works it’s like, impossible for it to slot in naturally to your post heist progression and questing. And that’s not even considering how you have to say the right things.
"HO MAI COD!"
eh, I intentionally skip it, more pigs need to follow his lead
It's pretty much a mission to teach you to do the optional stuff for the best results.
@@NEEDbacon I didn't want to needle or push into the guy's business more than I already have, so I didn't ask about how his friend died, and never got to go check out the burial site. FUCK ME FOR WANTING TO RESPECT BOUNDARIES.
So you know what? In the Evelyn situation later, yes, that situation, I felt the need to pick the blue optional dialogue that was clearly inappropriate because I didn't want to get locked out of something else, and Judy just got mad at me and I felt bad.
judy i think might be the *best* romance in this game , and thats saying something cuz theyre all good
Oh yeah? River's romance is good?
Coming back to the apartment to discover Judy left a load of drinks arranged in a heart shape for me is one of my favourite little things in this game. She’s such a dork under all the frustrated cynicism.
Panam nation.
@TheShockVox yeah well, I'm a woman, so.
Women can dream of Panam just like men of Judy.
Hands off of Kerry though! :D
8:54 Damn, somebody spoiled the fact that Johnny is an unreliable narrator already. Yeah, Johnny one sidedly sees himself as Smasher's rival, Smasher one sidedly saw himself as Blackhand's rival, and Blackhand is the true chad of the original games. Johnny actually died the first time he saw Smasher, and the second part is made up in his head as 'they left me behind' as an excuse... Because nothing is ever Johnny's fault.
Edit: P.S. the song that was on for a split second was Disrupt and Disorder. That song is badass.
I don't think the 'unreliable narrator' thing is as extreme as everyone says, is it really that hard to believe they just upped Johnny's accomplishments for the game cause they knew they weren't going to majorly include Blackhand? Like, we have a scene of Johnny getting the engram made as he's strapped into soulkiller, Adam Smasher held onto his gun AND his car, and everyone in night city talks about "Legendary Rockerboy Johnny Silverhand'. He definitely has an inflated ego but the "he got cut in half by a shotgun without a fight and Adam doesn't even remember him" shit just doesn't feel true with what's shown in game
@DTKloves8 SPOILERS BELOW
It's why smasher sounds so incredulous when you say, 'Silverhand sends his regards.' Morgan is still in canon, meaning the story likely played out like the original tabletop. It should also be mentioned that there are a lot of other small conflicts of information, which are confirmed. Don't get me wrong, Johnny probably didn't go out like a complete punk, but he does outright make stuff up, even in his own head, and it is even called out sometimes.
@Wixvhen yeah I agree with most that, and Johnny def wasn't as important to Smasher as Morgan was, but I just dont agree with the people that say Smasher didnt care about him at all. I think Johnny was more important to the majority of Night City, and Smasher clearly enjoys the bragging rights of killing him.
I feel so bad for Woolie being pulled this way and that by quests: man just wants to play and he feels like he has to walk on eggshells. Around 17:00 when the neighbor quest comes up, he sounds like he's been clubbed over the head.
I just put together that she's Lt. Mower because Kusanagi means "Grass Cutter" lmao
15 reflex to transvestigate the bar tender
Which is funny because the overclock ability is on the intelligence skill tree ba dum tss
Fun Fact: Morgan Blackhand doesn't have a drink in the Afterlife because he's too awesome to die. He's basically Cyberpunk's version of Chuck Norris.
Also because Mike Pondsmith told CDPR not to do anything with the character since he hasn't decided what Morgan's fate is yet in the TTRPG
He's like a Frankenstein's monster of Chuck Norris, Kurt Russel, Bruce Campbell, and Wesley Snipes all rolled into one!
They just don't know if he's dead or not, the bartender says this flat out.
his reputation aside, he's also mentioned in one of the news casts as a mysterious black-armed guy who mowed down an army of Lazarus goons in NC, so people probably just assume it's him. it also mentions that he's gotten pretty portly over the years, Steven Seagal-style. few too many scopdogs i guess.
This is a Panam household.
Damn, chat told him about the time sensitive neighbor but he missed Jackie's ofrenda :'(
t'was a choice in act 1, you get another scene to make up for it
@@matt6231 I know you ideally wanna send his body to his family instead of Viktor but I think he could have still done it if he didn't spend a bunch of time doing NCPD missions.
@@storiesfromtheabyss9808 nope, has nothing to do with time spent in missions. I am also fairly certain that this game contains exactly zero time-sensitive quests.
@@matt6231 There 100% are time sensitive quests in this game. They start one in this episode, if you wait to long to help your neighbor Barry he kills himself.
I will not stand for any Mr.Hands slander in this house! Unless its the old mr hands then feel free to lol.
Woolie just jumping on board with the police, huh? Figures. 😅
That ending was hilarious
I believe as an important detail, especially when trying to not kill folks, where you impact folks matters for whether or not it actually kills them. Example, aiming for legs or limbs will give you a much better chance at leaving them alive VS killing them, even with lethal weapons.
Maaan i remember before the proper ps5 patch came out i got 2077 at target for like 12 bucks on a ridiculous sale, and did enjoy it when it WORKED. Near the end of the game i was fast traveling to 99% of my destinations because it was actually faster to do that then try to drive there and needing to wait a whole minute and a half for the rest of the world to load, if it ever did
Woolie: "I haven't had a vehicle up until now."
That car that I let Jackie drive in the prologue and that he brought back to me and that I got into after the heist and that was hit by a rogue delamain and then I got a call from delamain saying to come by their HQ to get my car fixed up isn't mine.
Why am I still waiting for someone to tell him he has the out of car radio playing
What's the Cybercarfax situation in Night City?
Noice
for your own benefit when doing a call/ talking to an NPC just stop and talk as sometimes walking too far away from a convo can trigger bad things
I liked Judy on my first playthrough, but replaying the game made me more annoyed at her than anything. I think it also has to do with the Clouds questline. All in all, she's not enough punk IMO. Visually - sure, but her persona is pretty bland. While you could say the same about Ward, I believe he's truly punk because he's so genuine, and in this city it's contrarian and thus counts as being punk.
The literal cop is more punk than the lesbian woman who independently organises the violent takeover of a shithead run club?
Haha I get what you mean about him feeling more down to earth a lot of the time! But i do think being a cop and being punk is kinda an oxymoron
THANK YOU! I'm saying! I was all tot Judy but as time went on, I was disenchanted. She's also kinda dumb.
@thisidforsjit Hehe, yeah it sounds silly, but I still think it's the case, he sticks out like a sore thumb, he has more nomad vibes than a city resident. Besides, NCPD is nothing but another gang in the city, just the biggest and strongest one, so some of those folks on the force deserve a bit of street cred.
@@thisidforsjit (SPOILERS) Doesn't he get kicked off the force for protesting police corruption? I mean... that's pretty anti-authoritarian.
Man Judy really started to annoy me with her head in the clouds attitude.
Is this sarcasm or a pun about her fucking Evelyn?
Woolie continues to be a liar, he said in the podcast like he had preset goals every stream to ensure he made consistent progress and so he can argue "it was impossible to shave a single second from the LP".
"Today I will play the video game and do whatever I want." is not a plan, it's what you do with every game and the reason they take forever. Why have mods curate your LP if you'd do this anyway? There is no way people actually enjoy this.
What? An episode ago he clarified that he wanted to do a main mission, talk to a fixer and do a cyberpsycho mission before the end of that recording session. He did that in this episode, ending just before getting to said cyberpsycho. What are you talking about? I'll call him a liar all day, when he lies, but he's literally following his checklist as outlined. It's an open world game. He made a list and is following it getting side tracked along the way. That's the intended experience. He's experiencing the world at his pace. I'm perfectly cool to see him live in Night City. It's neat to see people experience the world for the first time.
The idea of some discord boardroom people having to tell Woolie how to play a video game is both really lame and really funny.
They were clearly cooking too when they told Woolie to avoid side quests and EVERYONE in the audience liked that decision.
i like it just fine tbh
@@ca9172 What do you classify as a side-quest? The yellow circle quests (non-main, side quests) are mandatory IMO, most are very good to great. The blue square gigs are mostly skippable - some are good, but most are filler.
He SHOULD do the yellow ones, it's such a huge miss if they aren't included. What, you think Kerry's sidequests or the Peralez' ones, etc should be skipped? 'Everybody liked that' - yeah, nah mate.
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Man these episodes are getting worse. This rate it ll take like over 100+ parts
You must be new to this channel. Woolie moves at the speed of a banana slug. Look up the snailborne series if you want to see woolie go fast.
And personally I'm here for that.
Fuck it, I'm game for episodes with absolutely zero progress if it means Woolie and Reggie go on a deep dive discussion about some of the world's fucked up aspects.
Mr. Hands rules but holy shit is Judy boring as fuck (like most Cp2077 characters)