Amazing Centro Storico Fiat Museum, closing forever? Turin, Italy.
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2024
- Yes, I'm in Turin! Myself and Jim @alsodriven jetted over to @CentroStoricoFiat before this fabulous little museum closes at the end of March, possibly forever. Housed within a factory built by Fiat in 1909, it's a special place and it features Fiats from 1899 through to the 2004 Fiat Multipla Eden Rock 2 spider, as well as shipping and aeronautical displays.
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In case anyone was wondering Italy drove on the left until the 1920s.
Mussolini changed it to the right when he unified the independent principalities into modern Italy that we know today. There was a mixture between some left and some right after WWI. Fiat still produces RHD vehicles for people that live in the Alps as safer to have the drop on the driver's side. Alpine roads had the edges marked with white lines and b&w poles until the late 70's. A crumbling stone wall on the bends wouldn't stop a Vespa. Nor does Armco stop a 44 tonne truck.
Sweden waited until 1967, while neighboring countries Norway and Denmark have always driven on the right. Well, right-hand driving was officially adopted by law in 1793 for both countries that at the time were in the Dano-Norwegian Realm constitution. Iceland was the last country in Europe to switch to driving on the right in 1968.
@@tonys1636 Garibaldi was going to do it but he was too busy collecting dead flies for his biscuit company.
Trucks had right hand steering till 1976 in spite of driving on the right side because it was considered safer. EU Regulation put an end to that.
WOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!! Mr. Hubnut in my home city!!!!!! What an absolute honor!!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Ian, I love your videos and I really hope you 're having a great time here ☺️☺️
Tanti cari saluti da un tuo fan torinese ☺️
I really hope the world does not lose a Quality museum like that, hopefully Clear heads will prevail and it will Survive!!! 🤠👍
Thanks for taking us around this great museum before it closes 😊
I knew that FIAT made more than cars in the past, having worked at FIAT as a car mechanic for 14 years, but the refrigerator and such were new to me. Thanks Ian for this tour.
And a heavy machine guns during WW1.
Washing machines and stoves and railway cars as well.
My fav brand of cars ! So creative and innovative since the begining with so many different models and engines for every taste. Sadly it all ended around the time when it seemed the new school 500 was all they could do. Being bought out by Peugeot is something I can't accept.
What a fabulous museum. Thank you for the tour. The WW2 overdub nearly made me spill my tea 🤣
Smooth eh?
@@HubNut Oh, very!
seamless, that's the word.
The Shiguli is the internal brand and predates the Lada name, which was used for Export only originally. The Shiguli / Lada is for most an iteration of the Fiat 124 but was significantly changed to meet russian road and weather conditions. It was made not only at the Togliattograd factory in Russia but has been built for the domestic market by different russian car-makers like for instance LuAZ in Ukraine. They use a different engine for the Lada, which was higher combusted and put out more power. The suspension was strengthened and so was the heating.
The Polski Fiat was founded in 1921 already - originally only a sales division. But from the mid-30s as a final assembly work and much later a full-vested production company. They produced a number of Fiats wheras the Lada sibling Polski Fiat 125p was based on the more plush Fiat 125 model. It was available in the West as FSO 125p as well.
Thanks for sharing !
Palmiro Togliatti was the leader of the italian communist party at the time.
@@duboisthierry292Ironically he and his companions organized strikes against Fiat in the 1920s and almost turned them into bankrupcy. But he spent a large part of the 1930s and all of WW2 in the soviet union and was a quite active member of the communist party there. BTW: the Shiguli name is derived from the right bank area of the Wolga, on which Togliatti is located.
The "list of famous people" from that town solely lists sportspeople. No scientists. No politicians. Not even poets or musicians. What does that tell us about the conditions there ... ? ;-)
Damn it, Ian, now you made me dream of a Fiat Dino Coupé. Around 50 grand, I don't have.
The new prettiest car I've ever seen.
Very interesting, rather like your visit to the DAF museum in Eindhoven, in the Netherlands a few years back. I'm hoping one day you get to visit the Škoda Museum at Mlada Boleslav (an hour north of Prague) in Czechia (Czech Republic).
As a dyed in the wool Fiat fanatic that's possibly my favourite place on the planet, been twice, the first time in 1989 in an X1/9 and again in 2015 in a £150 Uno, it'll be an absolute tragedy if it closes......
Amazing exhibits. I assume they will consolidate locations and all these beauties will just be relocated.
I adore this brand so much ❤
excellent choice to visit my favo brand currently in a 500 E cabrio 42 KWH...may Fiat live forever!
That was a lovely museum with some very nice looking cars.
Fantastic visit - thank you for posting, such history in these Italian masterpieces.
Thanks for the tour. So many beautiful vehicles. Like you, I absolutely love the Multipla.
20:42 Sorry, I have to correct you on the myth of the Russian steel...
Number 27 did a video on that and the deal with the Russians was done in exchange of oil... Italy produced their own steel at the time but the problem were due to quality and other industrial disputes where the car were left outside not painted... (The story is fuzzy on my part but it wasn't the Russian steel)...
The north of Italy has a great selection of motor museums and of course the annual 1000 Miglia event
13:31 That poster of the Fiat 850 is actually a Spanish one! (It says "two versions of the Fiat 850)...
Great video!! I didn't know Fiat made planes, and I grew up in Italy!!!
Absolutely amazing. Thanks for these pictures, Ian! I love Fiat cars although I have a «special» relationship with this manufacturer. The first car I drove was the 1972 Fiat 127 (900 ccm/40 PS - as seen on the pop art poster) from my sister. A few weeks later I bought my first car. It was a 1979 Fiat 127 (2nd series with 1050 ccm/50 PS). I think the dealer was very happy to get rid of it. Many technical problems and corrosion. A few years and some cars later I bought my only brand new car. A Fiat Punto in yellow (1100 ccm/55 PS). After the warranty everything you can imagine broke on this car. A first class italian desaster. But I'm always happy to see an old Fiat on our streets. See you soon --- Martin
Wow! At 7:10 I began drooling over a nice green Fiat 850 only to have it magically turn into a little model on a table in an office setting. I would love to have some cars models in that large of a scale!
I once went to the Piaggio museum. It was all very interesting and beautiful to see. It was all very, very Hubnut. In hindsight.
Great to see a museum video again on one of your long overdue trips, Ian. Even the new snazzy effects are used with moderation and taste ... rather apt for such a stylish museum. Enjoy your Italian campaign. Hope you can get to the Fiat test track ... on top of a building in Turin! Don't know if that's possible, though ...
You can't drive up there now but we visited today.
What a great museum. Thank you for showing us around. 19:40 something like that train (see photograph on wall at 19:52) still runs on the single-track circular line at a distance all around the lower slopes of Mount Etna in Sicily. It's red and it featured on the episode of Michael Portillo's Great Continental Railway Journeys covering Palermo, Agrigento, Siracusa and Mascali on Sicily.
Absolutely brilliant video Ian ❤👍what am amazing beautiful museum Waw those cars were stunning brilliant
Thanks This The Car Tour !
Hello From Finland !
Great video, Hubnut at his very best.
Thanks Ian really enjoyed this, excellent tour of the museum.I learned a few things from this
🇮🇹 How very Italian.
All the dials in front of the passenger.👍
Thanks @HubNut hope you're enjoying your road trip. Superb video. I love Turin, that rooftop test track, those Minis in the Italian Job. What a place!
Thanks Ian for visiting this beautiful museum! Wonderful 🤩
The V24 engine I believe was developed for the Schneider Trophy.
They explored different ways of getting more power out of their engine but in the end settled on the idea of connecting two of their existing V12's together and sticking a hoofing great big Supercharger on the back.
I came across a video about it on UA-cam the other day.
Love a Hubnut museum vid! And old Fiat's. Thank you for this 👍
Thanks for showing us, fantastic.
What a marvellous museum loved the models. Seeing the 850 when I was young a neighbour had one.
Those posters are incredible , the furniture in the office, ship full of Multiplas oh yes and some cars!
Went to the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam, there's a plane on the top floor a BAT Bantam , the engine is really clever and seeing that opposed twin cylinder reminded me of it. Think that the Gnome Monosoupape is the engine. Surely that Fiat museum / archive is too important to close.
Hubnut in tour, fiat have made some beautiful cars over the years , fiat 850 convertible 124 convertible , as a kid of the 70s and teenager of the 80s always loved the 131 supermirafori particularly in orange or black.
You showed us the Fiat fridges and washing machine. Few people know that we had an equivalent in the UK- Bendix washing machines were part of the BMC / BL empire in the '60's and '70's. As my dad worked for BMC he got a discount on a new Bendix washer. Edit: info on the net says they were part of BMC between 1953 & 68.
The Italians liked rhd because that way you could better judge the edge of the road when driving along mountain passes, I always heard.
And in Italy main roads were narrow at the time . Even worse in the cities.
"a car that never was, but somehow, still is...." that's some peak hubnut'ing there for you 🙂
Fantastico Bravo gorgeous video well done 👍👍👍 it would be criminal to close this and I’ve not even been there but would love too.
Lingotto still has its test track on the roof if memory serves me correctly however the main factory has been turned into a shopping complex I've been told,my last Fiat was a 128 3p berlinetta 1300 cc and would on the odd occasion pull 90 mph in third a cracking little motor.
Lovely to look around with you Ian Thankyou.
Lingotto video to follow...
What an amazing place, I never knew Fiat happen such great history, thank you
Thank you 👍 👍👍👍 I have had the pleasure of working on a fiat 509 and also driving it on a saint Patrick's Day Parade. Afterwards, I took as many people as I could on Joy rides so to share the experience.
8:25 Nope. What you were thinking of is the Napier Deltic - but that's a totally different story. The Commer Knocker has three parallel cylinders, which have a 3-cylinder crankshaft with 3 pistons on the one end - which then also controls 3 pistons on the opposite end with rods and levers. Combustion and work is done in the middle and the gas exchange is done with a scavenging blower via ports in the cylinder walls. No valves. Which makes it a 3-cylinder / 6-piston / opposed-piston / 2-stroke Diesel. 🙂
I showed your very interesting look at the Fiat museum to my Dad who come from Turin as a small boy and told me his father could remember watching the British Boming the Fiat works in that time best forgotten
It's amazing that all that history still survived .
Thank you for showing it.😊
I've owned two of the "froggy" Multiplas. Absolutely fantastic cars. I'd have another one tomorrow. You chose the wrong one.
Ooh, this brings back memories of when I went interrailing in 2022. I stopped by the Alfa Romeo museum when I reached Milan and it was an utterly breathtaking collection. I knew I should've stretched further to Turin!!
Fiat Group was a really large conglomerate. Iveco, OM, Magirus, Allis, and others. They had their own companies making steel (Teksid, stil part of Stellantis), refractories, brakes, and every imaginable car/truck component (..Magneti Marelli, now Calsonic, for example... Mopar..) yet they still bought outside, from others, lots of components. They had a media empire (GEDI, Gruppo EDItoriale) that owned some of the most important Italian newspapers (La Stampa , Repubblica.. ). Cars , trucks, bulldozers and tractors were the cash cows iirc. So it used to be a large and really complex group.
I was there in 2021. But it was closed. So nice to get a peep inside now 👍🙏
The TV on the 1200TV stood for Turismo Veloce which I imagine translates to Speed Tourer. I have had loads of FIATs in my life. I learnt to drive in my dads Mirafiori 2000 then my first car was a 127, second a Strada, later an Uno and a Mk1 Tipo and eventually a Punto. Can't say that anything out of their modern line up appeals to me though, I took a test drive in a 595 Abarth but the drivers seat wouldn't go back far enough for a six footer.
Very interesting video shame its closing down.
Very cool museum, lovely models there too. The first few months of my life I've been traveling in a dark red Fiat 600 my parents had at the time :)
Well hosted, you know your stuff!
I know how to read placards you mean. 😉 Pre-war Fiats definitely are not my strong suit.
What a beautiful museum 🇮🇹👌🏼😃
What a fabulous and interesting museum. Thanks for the tour. 👍
I work for a, uh, large media company in the states, based in Atlanta, NY and LA. (wow, that doesn't even narrow it down anymore)
The animators NEVER stopped smoking...trust me....
Fascinating stuff Hubnut
Great tour thanks for that. Can you now pop over to the Saab museum in Trollhatten I'm sure you would love that place :) .I went back in 88 but its been completely revamped since then.
Be careful in Turin; when the traffic lights are red, drivers will ignore that and proceed as if it was nothing 😄
That's what happens when Benny Hill reprograms the traffic lights.
Thanks for the video. What a fantastic museum.
It's not very hubnut, but I'm sure you would enjoy the Enzo Ferrari Museum in Modena.
I visited with a bunch of biker pals, when a trip to the Ducati Museum went pear shaped, and it was absolutely fantastic.
They dive deep into the design of tge early cars into the 60's and 70's, then of course the modern stuff
I wasn't keen at first but thoroughly enjoyed it.
Stunning cars, stunning museum and very interesting. Well done!
Wonderful Tour
Thanks for taking us around. Great tour
Thank you Mr H!
I had a 128 3p
Great video Hubnut. Wonderful motors. super !
My mother had a front engined 500, a 600, and an 850
Great video Ian as ever. Hope you have a great trip
Excellent video, really enjoyed that. Many thanks Ian! 👍
Very interesting video, thank you
I love your true love for the subject. Cheers!
Wow! That was amazing! Yet another car-museum I really should visit. - Never knew Fiat made jets or home appliances.. Great video!
Great vid,one of your best.
Mr HubNut doing what Mr HubNut does best, great video Ian.
Amazing
The posters are incredible
A really excellent video from this rare museum and thanks for showing us before it sadly closes its doors
I hope they are saving all the vehicles etc and moving them elsewhere
Looking forward to seeing the rest of your Italian adventure. Do some food reviews too.
Hope you have a great time
Enjoyed thanks,(loved the edit, btw)
So many beautifully designed cars, great museum. Shame its closing
another great video has always Ian and Carly miss/mrs hubnut and hublets and hubmutt 👍
I’ll add it to my list. Last year I was very disappointed to be on a work trip which involved driving from Milan to Fano, south of Venice but without time to stop at the Ferrari or Lamborghini museums or even San Marino 😢better planning required next time!
You'll sadly have to be quick. Closes next week...
What a great vid, my First car was a fiat 124 SPM856G, SPM, are my initials, hence why i bought it
8:31 my mum dealt with 2nd hand furniture etc in the 80's and I remember buying a cased version of one of those maps at auction.
It had I think 4 main maps showing the roads of the UK 3 England, 1 Scotland and one of a rather small London.
You changed the maps and turned a little crank to move it as you progressed along your journey.
I paid £5 for it and sold it within a week for £55 to a collector, it was from the 1920's 30's.
Some great cars there, thanks. I hope the rumoured closure of the museum isn't a sign of things to come within the struggling Stellantis Group.
The rear single seat at 5:21 is known in Brazil as "the mother-in-law seat"
Love it
I loved that! You know what I'm going to say yet again: "I want to go!" However, I will have to make do with your wonderful movies!
Wow! Some utter beauties on show there! I hope that they all find a new home…….oh, and I’ll take a FIAT fridge please! Hope it’s cooler than the air-con in my Alfa!
What a superb tour! Some of those Fiat posters made me drool
Well, it's an interesting museum for sure. Good thing FIAT presented here not only cars, but aircraft engines, jet fighters, technological equipment, etc. Such a shame there were no train models.
Never knew about Lada 2101 being exhibited there. Is that car a part of exchange program between FIAT and AvtoVaz? Nice find anyway. The 2101 was produced from 1970 to 1984 with later (1980's) models (2105, 2107) being discontinued in 2011. They were ... OK cars, but not great.
Are You going to visit SEAT museum anytime?
Who doesn’t love a car museum.
FIAT apparently.
What an absolute tragedy, to "redevelop" such a beautiful, & historically significant place, has Stellatis gone mad? Its sickening.. 😔
Ah you mentioned the Tillings-Stevens 3 cylinder diesel engine with horizontally opposed six piston layout, two stroke supercharged engine. I remember them mainly being fitted to Commer lorries but also fitted to their coaches as an option. They made an interesting sound!
Great video and great museum and your edit was almost seamless🤣
Loved the Lada Riva's.😀
What a fantastic collection. They must be mad to close it but that decision may well be outside of Fiat control. I love the comment on the model ship unloading a car that went all HubNut. You're not that bad.... that often 😉. You can't take anything away from Italian designs and Fiat clearly shows this. It was interesting hearing the story of the right hand drive preference that went on for so long. The opposed piston engines in a triangle form with three crankshafts I think (I'm probably wrong) got the nickname Deltic, certainly for the two stroke diesel engines from Napier used in ships and locomotives of years gone by if my hazy brain recalls correctly. Many thanks for sharing.
Hub nut, i think your next adventure should be in France. there are a still a few people around who own the twin engined twin gearboxed four wheeled drive 2 CV, and would let you drive one I recon. (-:
Yes I agree. Ian and Carly need to visit the Musée de la 2CV (only open on a Saturday afternoon) in Troisfontaines off the old Nancy to Strasbourg route nationale N4 which you leave at Buhl-Lorraine fairly close to Sarrebourg, then follow the D45. A real HubNut place in a disused glassworks, entry's free but donations welcome; includes all varieties of 2CV from the early 1950s onwards including a RHD Slough Special built for a British Army Major Wanless with a larger windscreen, a few twin-engined 4-wheel drives, fire & rescue support vehicles - and a real "giant hang-glider" that flew along with a cut-open top 2CV which served as a hot-air balloon basket somewhere around Le Touquet. F-a-b-u-l-o-u-s.