Thank you very much for making this video. I'm right handed but my right eye is practicaly blind. I just recently acquired a bow and assumed since I am left eye dominant I would have to shoot left handed. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to draw properly because I'm not nearly as strong on my left side. I'm glad to know I can still shoot right handed.
Greetings Braeden ! THIS is going to be a COOL DIALOG, working with you on leveraging the CROSS-handed capabilities of the VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD ! I WANT to make you as SUCCESSFUL as possible, so tell me a bit about YOU: - Age? - Height? (this will determine your Draw Length, which is approximately 41% to 43% of your Height :-O ) - General Physical Condition? (athlete, outdoorsman, couch potato - you know what I mean) - Bow: Make, Model, Draw Weight? - Type of TARGETS you shoot at? Looking forward to hearing from you and making you an AMAZING archer ! -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I am 19 I'm 6 foot 2 (but I have a slightly bigger wingspan to height ratio than average) I'm very athletic, I did competitive gymnastics for 14 years and now swim competitively. Though I have rotator cuff issues due to both sports. My bow is a basic 62inch traditional recurve bow with a 35lbs draw weight from 3rivers archery. It was part of one of their beginner archery kits. For now I'm only going to be shooting hay bales, though I don't have one at the moment I'll be acquiring one soon. Thank you for your offer to help me. I've been wanting to do archery since I was small so I'm as excited as a toddler with a new toy -sincerely, Braeden
Greetings again Braedon, INTERESTING BIO - thanks for sharing it ! I'm curious how you came to blind in one eye though - how did that happen? A childhood accident? GLAD you're starting your venture into Archery with a 35# bow - TAKE CARE OF YOUR ROTATOR CUFFS !!! HERE'S YOUR STARTING POINT FOR USING THE VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD WITH A 35# BOW: 1. VOGTLAND STRING WALKING: - your 20m "Initial Gap" should be around 2 fingers; and - your 10m "Interval Gap" should still be quite close to 1/2 finger; 2. VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD: Step 1: CHOOSE your GAP: TRY the following Gaps for common ranges: 5m: 3 fingers 10m: 2 1/2 fingers
Thank you very much for the in depth advice, i will employ what you've told me as soon as possible and gladly relay to you any obstacles or frustrations that I encounter alongside the small successes and triumphs . As for the eye problem... I still have vision in that eye, it's just extremely blurry, 20/150 when i last had it checked out. I've been told by many medical professionals of the pediatric and ocular kind that the eye itself has no defects and would have 20/20 vision. They're fairly certain it's an issue with with the ocular nerve having a weak connection since birth that my brain couldn't repair, causing it to focus on my left eye and perfecting that. Due to my brain doing this it never learned how to see properly on the right side, therefore even if they were able to repair the nerve it's highly unlikely that I would ever have good vision in that eye. -Braeden
You saved my ass again, I’m left eye dominant but right handed. My right hand bow is on the way in the mail so I started to panic but apparently I’ll just do what you showed again. Thank you!
I tried this method in the past but I didn’t feel comfortable with it. I taught myself how to shoot left handed and now I find archery fun again. I now shoot bows and rifles left handed.
I have been shooting traditional bows for over twenty years. I am right-handed and shoot right-handed, but am left eye dominant. It's simple. Close the dominant eye. The left eye. Just like shooting a rifle.
Greetings John ! Hmmm... your suggestion sounds deceptively simple; I would only ask you to be open-minded that NOT ALL people are as comfortable switching to their non-dominant eye. Several decades ago some people I know personally tried to explain to me that they find it uncomfortable-to-the-point-of-IMPOSSIBLE to switch to their non-dominant eyes. I'm a bit odd myself: LEFT-HANDED in many things (writing, throwing tennis, baseball bat, golf club), but with a DOMINANT RIGHT-EYE and RIGHT-HANDED when I do other things (shoot pool, shoot a rifle, shoot a pistol), so I decided to try an experiment - CLOSE MY RIGHT EYE AND TRY TO READ... In fact I'm doing this RIGHT NOW AS I TYPE TO YOU, AND HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS: - If I have BOTH EYES OPEN I can read just FINE; - If I have only my RIGHT EYE OPEN I can still read just FINE; BUT - if I have only my LEFT EYE OPEN then it suddenly becomes a STRUGGLE TO "PERCIEVE" the words as my eye lands on each one. In fact my left eye starts to DANCE AROUND THESE WORDS; the edges of the words kind of GLOW, basically I CAN'T STAY FIXED ON ANY ONE LETTER, much less any word. THIS IS WEIRD, so it MATTERS trying to cure this using something OTHER than "switching eyes". GO TRY THIS, and report back your findings. I think you're in for a surprise! - Mark
Hey! First time viewer of your channel and semi new to archery. I’m right handed and right eye blind (born half blind) and this video helped me. I really didn’t wanna transition to left hand shooting so this was a god send!
Greetings Sebas ! I'm SO surprised and SO PLEASED that this video has gained SO MUCH PRAISE !! GLAD to hear this has helped you too ! Please tell me what COUNTRY you're from (I enjoy such things). Please tell me about what KIND of archery you do, and how far you're shooting ! KNOW THIS: you now have a shooting method which can empower you with arrowtip-on-the-bullseye accuracy from 5m out to 80m or even 90m (depending on the draw weight of the bow) ! HAVE FUN !!! -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I'm also left eye dominant, but I find I'm pretty spot on most of my shots (Everyone has bad days everyone misses) despite not cocking my head much. I think it's down to the fact that growing up with a form of heterochromia and thus next to no depth perception I've gotten really good at instinctively judging distance and trajectory off of enviromental clues. My shooting style is very much 'see it and shoot it' with little to no aiming unless it's further away and on a flat or relatively open area (Where I need a bit more time to figure out distance and trajectory). I actually find it funny talking to a lot of older Archers of a traditional mindset because a lot of them just assume I was taught by a tradition archer as I'm young but have so much experience with the 'see it and shoot it style'. I also find it funny that I instinctively was developing a skill many traditional archers use to cope with my mutation. I guess theres a reason it's called instinctive shooting, because apparently it's so instinctive kids lacking in depth perception will develop it in day to day life. Just a fun thing I thought I would share. I wish you great form and many a dead center shots.
Greetings Tobi and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS ! I READ YOUR POST WITH GREAT INTEREST ! Why? Because I too have been diagnosed (back in high school, failed Air Force ROTC because of it) with a complete "No Depth Perception" :-O YOU say you learned to pick-up "visual cues from your environment" - this very much resonated with me when you described it ! ONE INTERESTING THING I LEARNED WHILE LIVING IN AFRICA FOR SOME YEARS... I lived in underneath Mt CAMEROON and near the mystical & magic-filled Mt KUPE' in Cameroon, west Africa - right smack in the lush tropical rain forests that produce the world's largest supply of PARROTS and - this is the interesting part - CHAMELEONS ! Now, HOW do you suppose I'm going to CONNECT both CHAMELEONS and ARCHERY and NO DEPTH PERCEPTION together into something INTERESTING? Here goes... ONE day I was on Mt KUPE' visiting a fellow Peace Corps teammate ROBIN CHANDLER when I literally MARVELED at all of the CHAMELEONS in the shrubs near the front of her house. I mean there were HUNDREDS & HUNDREDS & HUNDREDS of CHAMELEONS in just about 30 ft of bushes - it was STUNNING to see ! HERE'S the INTERESTING PART... When you placed a FLASHLIGHT on them at night, all their EYES lit up, and they suddenly start BOBBING THEIR HEADS UP & DOWN & UP & DOWN MADLY :-O When I asked a Cameroonian neighbor "WHY do CHAMELEONS BOB THEIR HEADS UP & DOWN ALL THE TIME?" He answered simply "No one LIKES Chameleons, so whenever they fall from a branch and land on their feet, there's NO ONE to PRAISE them, so they must PRAISE THEMSELVES" ;-) Not kidding - that was his (charming!) answer! Well, I PONDERED that experience for some time, and then one day the ACTUAL answer hit me out of the blue: CHAMELEONS have a single eye on EACH SIDE OF THEIR HEAD, so TRUE "BINOCULAR" vision ISN'T POSSIBLE, hence "Binocular DEPTH PERCEPTION" ISN'T possible either... ... but CHAMELEONS are CLEVER little creatures, so if they CAN'T get a PAIR of SHIFTED IMAGES at the SAME time from TWO eyes places ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER... ... then they've learned you can STILL get that PAIR of SHIFTED IMAGES at nearly-the-same-time from ONE eye BOBBING (read "SHIFTING") UP & DOWN & UP & DOWN ! :-O Once I realized that's what CHAMELEONS were doing, I found myself watching many OTHER animals with EYES ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THEIR SKULLS, and I realized they ALL perform this SAME MOTION - SHIFTING their heads up & down (or left & right) quickly, getting 2 DIFFERENT (SHIFTED!) pictures from ONE EYE in order to gain some perception of DEPTH :-O - Many BIRDS do this... - Many FISH do this... - Some species of DEER do this... ... and I THINK that MARK and TOBI may be UNCONSCIOUSLY doing this as well when they're SHOOTING :-O I mean, ALL you have is WALK SIDEWAYS past a target that's at 40m, and in a single step you end up with 2 SHIFTED images, and your brain starts PROCESSING that and PERCEIVING "DEPTH" :-O Immensely interesting discussion, and SO GLAD you posted! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS A very interesting story, and not at all too far off from exactly what I do. I do so in a stationary position most of the time by 'leaning into the shot' which means I lean my head slightly back as I knock the arrow and then when I spot the target I lean my head back into a normal position while drawing hence my 'see it and shoot it' style. But I also do something else which is less common. I can unfocus my eyes on demand essentially, and by unfocusing them for even a moment and then focusing them again I can get a good idea od 'depth'. When hunting larger animals I will usually sit with relatively unfocused eyes, only focusing in when I spot movement. I only use this long larger prey and for those 'Sit in the same spot for hours' kind of hunts as it's of little use otherwise. That secondary one is a very uncommon one and I've only met one other person who can unfocus their eyes while still remaining aware of their surroundings. Most people have to lose focus all together to do so. I never found out why I could do so but both myself and the other mentioned person have a mutation of the eyes so I guess I could be realted to that. Fun Fact: I got my idea of leaning my head from observing eagles back home. It seems we both got our ideas of how exactly to apply the idea of artificial depth perceptions from animals we observed.
Basically left eye dominant shoot left handed I shot right hand for 38 years I'm not right eye dominant anymore I shoot awesome left handed now because I'm left eye dominant due to muscle weakness in right eye
Greetings & Merry Christmas James! Hmmm... LEFT eye dominant AND shooting LEFT-HANDED? YOU simply get to use The VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD - MIRROR IMAGE VERSION: 1. CHOOSE your GAP; 2. ANCHOR under your CHIN; 3. LOOK down the RIGHT EDGE of the bowstring (instead of the left); 4. PLACE the ARROWTIP directly ON THE BULLSEYE; and 5. Perform a SMALL-MOTION release I'm still NOT clear if you've even TRIED this shooting method - have you? Awaiting your reply, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Thanks for this video. After my third lesson and shooting right-handed I've just discovered it's my left eye that is very dominant and also doesn't need glasses for far sight, while my right eye is pretty bad and needs glasses for far sight. So now I need to choose what to do. I guess I'll try shooting shooting left-handed for a while and see how that goes. That would have my preference. The condition of both arms is also crap after these two corona years, so I'll be working on strengthening both arms anyway. I'll certainly also try your method of right-handed under the chin. Thanks again!
Greetings & Welcome Nicolas ! 1. You shoot right-handed, so your shooting MUSCLES are all developing for RIGHT-HANDED shooting; 2. Right-Handed EQUIPMENT is far far far far EASIER to find, and CHEAPER to BUY; 3. You just learned a method where you CAN use your dominant LEFT eye and STILL shoot ACCURATELY RIGHT-HANDED; 4. You MAY (likely?) have already BOUGHT a RIGHT-HANDED GLOVE or TAB; 5. your BOW is ALREADY RIGHT-HANDED; 6. your ARROWS are already right-handed (and metric) ;-)
Hi again Malcolm ! I'm looking forward to hearing from you ! We both KNOW this technique WORKS: - I literally DEMONSTRATE it working for a RIGHT-handed shooter pretending to be LEFT-eye dominant; AND - There are at least a handful of other visitors (subscribers) WORLDWIDE (only half my 75,000+ views/mo come from the USA), who CONFIRM that it worked for them - LOOK AT THE COMMENTS HERE ! Cheerio, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Tim, That's GREAT - then this video ISN'T for you, now is it? ;-) It IS for all of the other people who DON'T (doesn't matter if it's "can't" or "won't") shoot right-handed. I'm clear on WHY you commented. Comments are supposed to be CONSTRUCTIVE, so WHO are you HELPING with YOUR comment? -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Very interesting method. I watched a few of your other videos and was wandering how to applied it when dominant eye is crossed with dominat side. I am just a newbie in this archery world. Lefty but found out I shoot much more confortably shooting righty. However my dominant eye is my left eye. My first class I shot both eyes openned and that way my arrow before shooting seemed to have to be located on the low left side of the target in order to get my shot in the center target area. On the last part of my 2nd class I started experimenting closing my left eye and then immediatelly the arrow before shooting moves to the middle of the target, however I had to aim quite low in order to get shots in the center area of the target. I tried again this method in my 3rd class with good results. I find it better to have to compensate only going up than having to do it up and left. But I definetely have to close my left eye otherwise it wants to take control of my sightview. Yesterday I found you first video and seems like a very good option to avoid having to do any type of compensations. Will definitely try it in my next range practices. Going to this specific video, I see that you also close one eye when you aim in this method so this would right away remove the problem of dominant eye. And considering you get a better position without having to tilt your head when you use your right eye, even as a left eye dominant shooting righty I think is just better to get used to use you right eye and keep a better form. Of course, if you have problems or impediments to close your dominant left eye then what you show in this video will be a perfect option to move forward. Sorry for the long post. Regards from Argentina!!!!
Hi (third time in a single evening) Malcolm ! THIS video was filmed in response to a woman with PRECISELY the SAME situation as you: - Shooting Right-Handed (doesn't really matter WHY); and - LEFT Eye Dominant; She's since tried this method - anchoring UNDER the chin means IN FRONT OF her face, so it IS possible to shift the LEFT eye over to sight down the left edge of the bowstring - and she was IMMENSELY PLEASED with her performance ! Give it a try, and report back how it feels ! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I'm left eye dominant right handed and I also have mandibular prognathism which is a fancy term to say that I have underbite like Jay Leno. I have a good jaw and chin so I'll be able to aim under the chin easily ;)
Greetings Sheepdog ! I'm confused - DID you watch the video and TRY this method? It's not clear from your post. Please let me know ! -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Hi, great tip, will definitely try it out! I am very right handed and have left eye dominance. Would you recommend keep training my right eye to be the dominant one or to try and master the bow in opposite hand?
Greetings squid and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS ! Please know I composed a detailed reply for you this past Sunday morning... ... then somehow Starbucks (where I was typing) had a network hiccup and I LOST that entire reply ! I HATE WHEN THIS HAPPENS !! It took me until today to RE-author the reply - here goes. MARK'S RECOMMENDATION: If you shoot "VERY RIGHT-HANDED" then likely you do OTHER things also "VERY RIGHT-HANDED": - you likely SWING a BASEBALL BAT right-handed; - you likely SHOOT POOL right-handed; - you likely SHOOT a RIFLE right-handed; - you likely SHOOT a PISTOL right-handed; In each of these activities there is merit to being RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT as well, so there's your rationale in FAVOR of re-training your brain to be RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT :-) so there is high merit to you RE-TRAINING YOUR BRAIN TO BE RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT NOW COMES THE TRICKY PART - HOW to RE-TRAIN YOUR BRAIN TO BE RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT? SIMPLE (so I'm told by experts who have either "transitioned" themselves or helped someone "transition" 1. WEAR SHOOTING GLASSES (yellow lenses) at least for the training; 2. STICK a small dot (size of a DIME is all that's needed) of MASKING TAPE over the CENTER of the LEFT LENS. That's it. I'm told that your brain's reaction will be almost INSTANTANEOUS, and go like this: Your LEFT eye WON'T be able to see The Target; so Your RIGHT eye will begin to FOCUS in a way you've never EXPERIENCED before. You will begin to feel literally PHYSICALLY "ODD" Your brain will FIGHT Your RIGHT eye will struggle to FOCUS because it's not accustomed to having so much "ATTENTION" It will literally become DIFFICULT TO CONCENTRATE I'VE TRIED THIS - TRY TO READ SOME WORDS ON A SIGN ON A NEARBY WALL - YOU WILL ACTUALLY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP YOUR NOW-DOMINANT RIGHT EYE "HELD" ON EACH LETTER, EACH WORD IN THAT SIGN ! Your eye will begin to DANCE AROUND what you're trying VAINLY to FOCUS UPON. You will want to pee yourself. I'm not kidding THEN... ... your brain suddenly "transitions" - it's like you reach a HIGHER LEVER OF CONSCIOUSNESS or something I know - fucking WEIRD it what it is, but it HAPPENS You WILL be able to FOCUS and STEADY on the TARGET You WILL be able to SHOOT - at least at LARGE targets at SHORTER DISTANCES. Then when you take those glasses off, you will REVERT. You will have to REPEAT this training MULTIPLE TIMES a WEEK until the transition starts to "stick" KEEP AT IT UNTIL IT STICKS. Best of luck - come back in a few weeks and report on your experience! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Sam! DON’T DESPAIR - there are PLENTY of starter bows out there which be shot EITHER left-handed or right-handed! Here are some I’VE purchased and I LOVED them: amzn.to/43CbGOb
Greetings JTepsr and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS ! EVERYONE learns "Instinctive" shooting when they first start shooting barebow - either as youth (like me in Northern Minnesota here in the USA) or as an adult. I was no different. JUST like everyone, as a young pre-teen growing up in Boy Scouts in the hinterlands of the Minnesota "412 Region" (a part of Minnesota that is basically more LAKES than LAND) I was handed a 20# fiberglass recurve bow and taught how to NOT ACTUALLY AIM AT THE TARGET, but instead aim SOMEPLACE OTHER THAN THE TARGET. JUST like everyone, at first I DIDN'T question this; instead I merely (and quickly) grew DISINTERESTED in shooting barebow, because - frankly speaking - it DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. Not when you're also learning to shoot rifles and shotguns and pistols, and they all had SIGHTS which were ALIGNED with the BARREL (hence in line with the BULLET).... But later in life I returned to archery - first with a Compound Bow with its front & rear sights DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE ARROW, and while I was shooting I was often standing next to OLYMPIC RECURVE archers as well. Later when I grew weary of the artificially-effortless accuracy that comes with Compound Bows (I mean no disrespect here, but you all KNOW what I mean), I returned to BAREBOW - shooting INSTINCTIVELY, but starting to WONDER and QUESTION why this clearly-FLAWED shooting method still had such an obsessive grip on so many people. So I began to STUDY Olympic Recurve Archers... And I also began to STUDY another shooting technique called STRINGWALKING... THEN one day I started experimenting with COMBINING THESE METHODS. And so the "VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD" was born. I invite you to try it. You won't die. You're not an "infidel". You CAN compete at ALL FITA indoor & outdoor competitions :-o This method ELIMINATES the (multiple) FLAWS in "instinctive" barebow, and replaces them with the STRENGTHS of Compound Bow Archery and Olympic Recurve Archery :-O. CAN you still shoot INSTINCTIVELY? Absolutely YES - and sometimes it's the BEST method for a particular shot ! But for those situations where PRECISION is required, and the distance ISN'T something you've practiced & practiced & practiced, the VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD is just-another-arrow-in-your-quiver, so to speak ;-) It's nice to have CHOICES. Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I have a slight dilemma! Just started archery and I'm right-handed as well as footed. My right eye is much, much clearer vision-wise but my left is weaker, yet unfortunately dominant. Should I continue shooting right handed and using my strong right eye and learning to cope with the dominance of the left, or immediately switch to a left-handed bow even though that eye is weaker?? Very confused! Any suggestions? Thank you!
Greetings & Happy New Year Imus ! PONDERING... I've read & re-read your words carefully, and see one small-but-important assumption you're making which in fact is not valid... Throughout your (detailed) description you appear to be working under the assumption that "Eye Dominance is Unchangeable". GOOD NEWS: EYE DOMINANCE IS A LEARNED "HABIT" WHICH CAN (AND REGULARLY IS) CHANGEABLE !!! :-) Q: IS it SIMPLE to "RE-TRAIN" your RIGHT eye to be dominant ? A: YES - actually it IS as simple as WEARING AND EYE PATCH over your EYE (or paper taped to glasses) whenever you are shooting your bow. Q: IS is EASY to "RE-TRAIN" your RIGHT eye to be dominant? A: IT VARIES FROM PERSON TO PERSON. - You're basically FORCING your brain to WORK HARDER, so it will (temporarily) RESIST being "re-wired"; - for SOME people this is EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE; they have trouble focusing, concentrating, their brain literally starts SCREAMING at them to CHANGE EYE ! CHANGE EYE ! until they GIVE IN and STOP; - for SOME people this is COMPARATIVELY TRIVIAL; they notice an initial few minutes (that's it!) of "discomfort" where they too can almost hear their brain SCREAMING "CHANGE EYE ! CHANGE EYE ! I DON'T LIKE THIS !!!", but they IGNORE this message, and after just a few minutes their brain literally RE-WIRES itself and they begin to shoot quiet ACCURATELY - but more importantly they shoot COMFORTABLY while aiming with their "NEW" dominant eye :-O There's even a Nicholas Cage movie from the 90's about this: "FIREBIRDS" (1990). It's about a conventional helicopter pilot (Cage) who wants to become an ATTACK HELICOPTER PILOT, only he finds out that the HELMET the new pilots have to wear all have a HUD over their LEFT eye, and HE'S LEFT-EYE DOMINANT :-O. What you see HIM go through to re-train HIS brain is hilarious, so I suggest you watch it ! SUMMARY OF BEST ADVICE: - SHOOT RIGHT-HANDED; it simply makes SENSE given you're RIGHT-HANDED; - RE-TRAIN your brain to become RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT - IF you wear GLASSES, then place a small piece of tape in the MIDDLE of your LEFT LENS, so it's "DISTRACTED"; This will immediately trigger your brain to "shift dominance" to your RIGHT EYE, but with BOTH EYES OPEN, I predict you'll be PLEASANTLY SURPRISED how QUICKLY this shift occurs :-O ! - If you DON'T wear glasses, then wear CHEAP SUNGLASSES and POP OUT the RIGHT LENS ! These techniques WILL "make your BRAIN uncomfortable" - some people even feel queasy like they need to pee (yeah - weird!) - but IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY ! Let us know how this goes. You've just given me an idea for my NEXT VIDEO !! WATCH FOR IT ! -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS OMG! Thanks so so much for such a detailed reply! You were right aboust my assumption, so I will definitely look into that! Just took my bow outside after researching and watching this video and noticed exactly how much eye dominance affects shooting in archery! I aimed around 20cms more to the left and started hitting the target so much more frequent! This is an incredibly weird sensation but will work/do anything to improve my skills! Happy new year to you too and I definitely will look out for your next video! Thanks, Imus
Greetings & Happy New Year Imus ! "... incredibly weird sensation" ? Yup - that pretty much describes what it's like to start forcing your NON-dominant eye to become your DOMINANT eye ! What you're experiencing is literally billions of neurons gradually "re-mapping" (reconnecting) to form brand-new, never-before-existed pathways in your brain's vision-processing region - the Occipital Lobe at the rear, just above the cerebellum (primitive brain) . PERSISTANCE & DETERMINATION ALONE WILL WIN THE DAY HERE ! IMAGINE you actually DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE - like you suffered the LOSS of your currently-dominant left eye, and you get the idea. IT CAN BE DONE ! The EASIEST ROUTE is the one I mentioned WEAR SUNGLASSES WITH THE LEFT LENS COVERED, so BOTH EYES are OPEN while you're aiming, but your currently-dominant LEFT eye is somehow "IMPEDED" from operating ! This WILL cause your brain to "SHIFT GEARS" and OVER-COMPENSATE vision-processing "priority" over to the RIGHT EYE, which is what you want :-) MAKE SURE you're anchoring UNDER YOUR CHIN, so your RIGHT eye then has 2 VISUAL "LANDMARKS" for sighting right down the arrow: 1. the LEFT EDGE of your bow string; and 2. the ARROW TIP This will HELP your RIGHT eye begin to take over aiming, as your NEW pattern then becomes this: RIGHT EYE - LEFT EDGE OF BOWSTRING - TIP OF ARROW - CENTER OF TARGET CHECK IN next week and let us know how you're doing ! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Greetings Maddie ! You're actually the THIRD PERSON to take time to thank me for this video :-O I had NO IDEA there were so many people out there struggling to learn archery, but challenged by a mis-matched hand/eye dominance. SUPER GLAD (even PROUD) that you found this video USEFUL :-) WATCH for UPCOMING VIDEOS where I shoot a 25# recurve bow "CROSS-HANDED" (sounds better than "cross-EYED" doesn't it? ;-) ) all the way out to 60m (even 70m) :-O !! IF THAT INTERESTS YOU... please subscribe and hit the NOTIFICATIONS button ! Cheers! -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Hi Byron! I’m SURPRISED how much POSITIVE FEEDBACK I’m getting for this video! I’ve lost count how many people have thanked me! You’ll see this technique works surprisingly well even on 40# and 45# bows :-O Cheers Mark Vogt l VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Very educational. I've never heard of string walking. Do you ever experience an arrow coming out of nock? I'm also assuming when you do this you are looking/aiming the full length if arrow at target.
Greetings Jeff ! Hmmmm... you've NEVER (yet) heard of "String Walking" ?? Please know I DIDN'T invent "String Walking" as a method for precisely adjusting the elevation (hence the range) of an arrow by creating this "gap" between the Nocking Point of the Arrow and the Drawing Point of your Index Finger;. What I HAVE done is develop a METHOD for String Walking easily, quickly & accurately using only 2 easy-to-determine, easy-to-remember numbers. And MY approach to String Walking empowers you to shoot any common 35# to 50# bow (recurve bow or long bow) accurately and POINT-ON at all distances from 5m aaaallll the way out to 90m :-O Let me answer your questions: QUESTION: Do I ever experience arrows "slipping out of nock"? CLARIFICATION: I think you mean "do I ever experience the nock of the arrow slipping off the bowstring because the slot of the nock is "engaged" at what ends up being a 45 deg angle when at Full Draw? ANSWER: Yes - but it's actually quite RARE, and it's ACTUALLY about the NOCK plastic being spread too WIDE, and NOT about the ANGLE at which the nock is engaging the bowstring :-O All I have to do is take that (rare) offending arrow, and using my teeth bite down on the nock a bit, to narrow the too-wide gap. I've never had to do this more than once to any nock, and I'd say I only remember doing this to less than 5 arrows across the past DECADE - not kidding. QUESTION: Am I looking down the entire length of the arrow at Full Draw? ANSWER: Yes - absolutely - but EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, at EVERY SINGLE DISTANCE from 5m all the way out to 90m, I am placing the tip of my arrowhead DIRECTLY ON THE BULLSEYE OF WHATEVER I'M AIMING AT. I'm NEVER aiming at some weird point-in-outer-space OFF-TARGET :-O QUALIFICATION: There IS one single scenario wherein I DO (I MUST) place the tip of the arrowhead somewhere OTHER than right-smack-on-the-dead-center-of-the-target: That's when there's a SIGNIFICANT CROSS WIND. This is a reality for EVERY SINGLE SHOOTING METHOD OF EVERY SINGLE SHOOTING "DEVICE" ON THE PLANET IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, so I'm no exception to this RULE of PHYSICS. REALITY: CROSSWINDS push ALL arrow SIDEWAYS as they travel to the target. Period. PRACTICAL REALITY: -- IF the wind is 0 mph to 5 mph, I can STILL aim POINT-ON at 90m, and will see only about 2 inches of "drift" -- IF the wind is 5 mph to 10 mph, I can STILL aim POINT-ON "height-wise" at 90m, but I'll need to shift SIDEWAYS about 6 inches TOWARD the wind; then the wind will DRIFT the arrow BACK the 6 inches, and I'll land near the bullseye. NOW I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU ! 1. HOW NEW are you to ARCHERY? 2. WHAT KIND of Archery interests you? 3. WHAT are you DOING about that interest? Looking forward to a dialogue ! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS as to how new I am to archery. I'm a rerun. I'm restoring a Person longbow that I was fairly good with when I had this bow at 14 yrs old. I'm 71 now. I plan on using it again by purchasing necessary equipment and practicing.
Hi Mark, I am left-eyed dominant and right handed. I tried what you did in video but I was using a sight and It did not work. It might work with string-walking since there is no sight. I wished I had seen this many years sooner than I might not had to become a lefty archer. Great idea if you string-walk. Abe Rags.
Greetings Professor Rags ! Hmmm... you "tried what I did but were using a sight"? Hmmmmmmmmmm.... Let's try NOT using the sight, as you suggested - come back & tell us about your experience !! f Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS Hi Mark, I am still working on my from with string walk. Changed my anchor point to under my chin, with the string in my cleft chin and nose on string my groupings were much smaller. When my from is more consistent I will try a RH bow.
todos esos lugares que vas parece que son publicos y eso es una chulada en españa la mayoria son clubs privados y en lugares particulares no se puede disparar
¡Hola Josep! Eres CORRECTO: nuestro campo de tiro con arco local de Blackwell Forest Preserve ES PÚBLICO, ¡TAN genial! Dicho esto, de hecho, hay sólo unos POCOS rangos PÚBLICOS en toda el área de "Chicagoland". Solo tengo suerte de que este esté a solo 6 millas (9 km) de mi casa :-)
Hopefully I shoot as well with a bow being right-handed and left eye dominant as I do firearms. When I was in Marine Corps boot camp they tried to make me shoot left-handed because I'm left eye dominant. I tried to tell them I was comfortable shooting right-handed using my left eye but they still made me try left-handed anyway. I shot okay left-handed but definitely not great. When they let me switch back to right-handed I was the second highest shooter in the entire company. It was a one-point difference between me and the leader. I actually just ordered my first bow so I guess we're about to find out.
Greetings Raider and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS ! In case you're curious, this video has received well over 14,000 (fourteen THOUSAND) views and over 860 HOURS of viewing time since I posted it - what - 2 years ago? And only HALF of those views/hours were inside the USA - the rest came from OUTSIDE the USA, where people were DELIBERATELY SEARCHING for this kind of video. YOU ARE NOT ALONE in being "cross-eye dominant" ! That said, I look forward to hearing back from you soon ! -Mark
I’m also right handed, left eye dominant. How do you simply shoot a rifle right handed with your left eye? Could you explain further?? I find myself having too shoot my rifles left handed because I have too shut my right eye too see through my scope properly.
@@SpacedFallenI’m right handed and left eye dominant. You will need to lean your head over the but of the rifle so your left eye lines up with the scope, I grew up shooting this way but as I got older I could not get my eye low enough to see through the scope correctly. In many cases you will need to put higher rings on otherwise your eye will not line up with the scope correctly or just get left handed riffles. My hunting rifles are left handed. One bonus is I can now shoot just a well right or left handed.
Greetings Taffy & WELCOME to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS ! Please clarify - are you telling me this video HELPED you learn how to use your LEFT eye in order to still shoot right-handed? I'm hoping you say "yes", but if you're still struggling, then write back to me, and let's see what ELSE is available, including learning to shoot LEFT-HANDED. Hoping to hear from you! -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
When I was able to shot my compound bow before the string got fucked when I went to shot an arrow I always tilted my head to the right to align my left eye to the peep sight and I found it was easy and worked I also didn't need to twist my head either. So you could imagine how far I tilted my head but hey if it isn't broken don't fix it, or in this case if it works for me why change the method. Kind of wonder how my specific method would apply to traditional bows like Recurves and Long bows if I ever decided to get one.
Greetings Arturo ! You're a man & archer after my own heart - you DARE to EXPERIMENT and "PUSH THE ENVELOPE" of archery shooting methods, NOT worrying about staying within the safe-but-at-times-INEFFECTIVE boundaries of CONVENTION :-) ... MORE POWER TO YOU ! Me? I've been SO SURPRISED about the COMMENTS this particular video has garnered ! SO MANY archers STRUGGLING with mis-matched eye-hand dominance have PRAISED this video; I honestly DIDN'T know this affliction was so COMMON ! YOU & I are in complete agreement - the actual AMOUNT you have to tilt IS surprisingly SMALL; even when I'M aiming, I notice that the actual distance between my RIGHT eye looking down the bowstring's left edge, and my LEFT eye looking down that same bowstring left edge is less than an inch ! LASTLY, if you're ALREADY anchoring UNDER your chin (and therefore your head is BEHIND the bowstring rather than ALONGSIDE it), then you CAN shoot literally ANY bow using this anchoring method. In fact, this is an INTEGRAL PART of the VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD ! WATCH some more of my videos - you'll see ! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
right handed left eyed shooter as well, and I was already doing this without knowing it had a name! Haha the only difference between this technique and what I do is I cant the bow to the right a little under 45°. The head cock, anchoring under the chin and canting of the bow all come together to make cross dominance handicap disappear pretty much
Greetings Jordan and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS ! PLEASE feel free to call your technique the "ARTHER SHOOTING METHOD" - I won't mind a bit ! ;-) Believe me, I WASN'T seeking glory or fame (or notoriety) when I decided to NAME this cross-dominant-eyed shooting method. I was merely pushing the limits of The VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD one morning, and realized that because my shooting method lets you anchor UNDER your chin and IN FRONT OF your face, you COULD in fact use EITHER EYE to shoot ! And it turns out there are a LOT (a WHOLE LOT!) of people with this predicament in archery ! :-O WHO KNEW? Yet a year later, this video has seen THOUSANDS & THOUSANDS of view - many of them MULTIPLE views from the SAME people worldwide ! GLAD so many people have found it helpful, and empowered they to CONTINUE THEIR LOVE OF ARCHERY ! Kind regards, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Greetings Manny ! HOPE you found this video USEFUL then ! It's actually quite STRAIGHTFORWARD shooting like this - give it a try ! And then come back and report your findings (good or bad) - we're all here to HELP ! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Eye dominancy is bs crap, all you need is to use common sense, to realize which eye you are using to aim, there is this woman I know who can't hit a 4' x 4' from 6 yards, ha ha she is an Engineer but uses no-common-sense.
Besides this being a horribly put together and somehow single sentence, if you believe eye dominance in archery is BS it must be nice being able to comment on things you have no experience on.
While that will work at a set distance. When you change distance it will change your poi. My dad started me shooting at 10 yards and I learned where to aim to stack arrows in a quarter, but when I started moving back from 15-60 yards my group was just a tight, but it would be off to the side. The father back the more off I would be. Changing my hold point to more centered on my face fixed it.
Thank you very much for making this video. I'm right handed but my right eye is practicaly blind. I just recently acquired a bow and assumed since I am left eye dominant I would have to shoot left handed. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to draw properly because I'm not nearly as strong on my left side. I'm glad to know I can still shoot right handed.
Greetings Braeden !
THIS is going to be a COOL DIALOG, working with you on leveraging the CROSS-handed capabilities of the VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD !
I WANT to make you as SUCCESSFUL as possible, so tell me a bit about YOU:
- Age?
- Height? (this will determine your Draw Length, which is approximately 41% to 43% of your Height :-O )
- General Physical Condition? (athlete, outdoorsman, couch potato - you know what I mean)
- Bow: Make, Model, Draw Weight?
- Type of TARGETS you shoot at?
Looking forward to hearing from you and making you an AMAZING archer !
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I am 19
I'm 6 foot 2 (but I have a slightly bigger wingspan to height ratio than average)
I'm very athletic, I did competitive gymnastics for 14 years and now swim competitively. Though I have rotator cuff issues due to both sports.
My bow is a basic 62inch traditional recurve bow with a 35lbs draw weight from 3rivers archery. It was part of one of their beginner archery kits.
For now I'm only going to be shooting hay bales, though I don't have one at the moment I'll be acquiring one soon.
Thank you for your offer to help me. I've been wanting to do archery since I was small so I'm as excited as a toddler with a new toy
-sincerely, Braeden
Greetings again Braedon,
INTERESTING BIO - thanks for sharing it !
I'm curious how you came to blind in one eye though - how did that happen? A childhood accident?
GLAD you're starting your venture into Archery with a 35# bow - TAKE CARE OF YOUR ROTATOR CUFFS !!!
HERE'S YOUR STARTING POINT FOR USING THE VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD WITH A 35# BOW:
1. VOGTLAND STRING WALKING:
- your 20m "Initial Gap" should be around 2 fingers; and
- your 10m "Interval Gap" should still be quite close to 1/2 finger;
2. VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD:
Step 1: CHOOSE your GAP: TRY the following Gaps for common ranges:
5m: 3 fingers
10m: 2 1/2 fingers
Thank you very much for the in depth advice, i will employ what you've told me as soon as possible and gladly relay to you any obstacles or frustrations that I encounter alongside the small successes and triumphs .
As for the eye problem...
I still have vision in that eye, it's just extremely blurry, 20/150 when i last had it checked out.
I've been told by many medical professionals of the pediatric and ocular kind that the eye itself has no defects and would have 20/20 vision. They're fairly certain it's an issue with with the ocular nerve having a weak connection since birth that my brain couldn't repair, causing it to focus on my left eye and perfecting that. Due to my brain doing this it never learned how to see properly on the right side, therefore even if they were able to repair the nerve it's highly unlikely that I would ever have good vision in that eye.
-Braeden
I have the same issue. Thank you video creator.
You saved my ass again, I’m left eye dominant but right handed. My right hand bow is on the way in the mail so I started to panic but apparently I’ll just do what you showed again. Thank you!
I tried this method in the past but I didn’t feel comfortable with it. I taught myself how to shoot left handed and now I find archery fun again. I now shoot bows and rifles left handed.
I have been shooting traditional bows for over twenty years. I am right-handed and shoot right-handed, but am left eye dominant. It's simple. Close the dominant eye. The left eye. Just like shooting a rifle.
Greetings John !
Hmmm... your suggestion sounds deceptively simple; I would only ask you to be open-minded that NOT ALL people are as comfortable switching to their non-dominant eye.
Several decades ago some people I know personally tried to explain to me that they find it uncomfortable-to-the-point-of-IMPOSSIBLE to switch to their non-dominant eyes. I'm a bit odd myself: LEFT-HANDED in many things (writing, throwing tennis, baseball bat, golf club), but with a DOMINANT RIGHT-EYE and RIGHT-HANDED when I do other things (shoot pool, shoot a rifle, shoot a pistol), so I decided to try an experiment - CLOSE MY RIGHT EYE AND TRY TO READ...
In fact I'm doing this RIGHT NOW AS I TYPE TO YOU, AND HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS:
- If I have BOTH EYES OPEN I can read just FINE;
- If I have only my RIGHT EYE OPEN I can still read just FINE; BUT
- if I have only my LEFT EYE OPEN then it suddenly becomes a STRUGGLE TO "PERCIEVE" the words as my eye lands on each one. In fact my left eye starts to DANCE AROUND THESE WORDS; the edges of the words kind of GLOW, basically I CAN'T STAY FIXED ON ANY ONE LETTER, much less any word.
THIS IS WEIRD, so it MATTERS trying to cure this using something OTHER than "switching eyes".
GO TRY THIS, and report back your findings.
I think you're in for a surprise!
- Mark
Unrelated to the archery instruction itself: As an English nerd, your mid-word correction from 'further' to 'farther' made me unreasonably happy. 😂
Beginner with a bow and super excited to try this! Thank you!
MUSIC TO MY EARS Chelsea!
WATCH THE PLAYLIST ON THE VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD !!!
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Hey! First time viewer of your channel and semi new to archery. I’m right handed and right eye blind (born half blind) and this video helped me. I really didn’t wanna transition to left hand shooting so this was a god send!
Greetings Sebas !
I'm SO surprised and SO PLEASED that this video has gained SO MUCH PRAISE !!
GLAD to hear this has helped you too !
Please tell me what COUNTRY you're from (I enjoy such things).
Please tell me about what KIND of archery you do, and how far you're shooting !
KNOW THIS: you now have a shooting method which can empower you with arrowtip-on-the-bullseye accuracy from 5m out to 80m or even 90m (depending on the draw weight of the bow) ! HAVE FUN !!!
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I greatly enjoyed your informative and entertaining video; you richly deserve more subscribers!
I'm also left eye dominant, but I find I'm pretty spot on most of my shots (Everyone has bad days everyone misses) despite not cocking my head much. I think it's down to the fact that growing up with a form of heterochromia and thus next to no depth perception I've gotten really good at instinctively judging distance and trajectory off of enviromental clues. My shooting style is very much 'see it and shoot it' with little to no aiming unless it's further away and on a flat or relatively open area (Where I need a bit more time to figure out distance and trajectory).
I actually find it funny talking to a lot of older Archers of a traditional mindset because a lot of them just assume I was taught by a tradition archer as I'm young but have so much experience with the 'see it and shoot it style'. I also find it funny that I instinctively was developing a skill many traditional archers use to cope with my mutation. I guess theres a reason it's called instinctive shooting, because apparently it's so instinctive kids lacking in depth perception will develop it in day to day life.
Just a fun thing I thought I would share. I wish you great form and many a dead center shots.
Greetings Tobi and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS !
I READ YOUR POST WITH GREAT INTEREST !
Why?
Because I too have been diagnosed (back in high school, failed Air Force ROTC because of it) with a complete "No Depth Perception"
:-O
YOU say you learned to pick-up "visual cues from your environment" - this very much resonated with me when you described it !
ONE INTERESTING THING I LEARNED WHILE LIVING IN AFRICA FOR SOME YEARS...
I lived in underneath Mt CAMEROON and near the mystical & magic-filled Mt KUPE' in Cameroon, west Africa - right smack in the lush tropical rain forests that produce the world's largest supply of PARROTS and - this is the interesting part - CHAMELEONS !
Now, HOW do you suppose I'm going to CONNECT both CHAMELEONS and ARCHERY and NO DEPTH PERCEPTION together into something INTERESTING?
Here goes...
ONE day I was on Mt KUPE' visiting a fellow Peace Corps teammate ROBIN CHANDLER when I literally MARVELED at all of the CHAMELEONS in the shrubs near the front of her house. I mean there were HUNDREDS & HUNDREDS & HUNDREDS of CHAMELEONS in just about 30 ft of bushes - it was STUNNING to see !
HERE'S the INTERESTING PART...
When you placed a FLASHLIGHT on them at night, all their EYES lit up, and they suddenly start BOBBING THEIR HEADS UP & DOWN & UP & DOWN MADLY :-O
When I asked a Cameroonian neighbor "WHY do CHAMELEONS BOB THEIR HEADS UP & DOWN ALL THE TIME?" He answered simply "No one LIKES Chameleons, so whenever they fall from a branch and land on their feet, there's NO ONE to PRAISE them, so they must PRAISE THEMSELVES" ;-)
Not kidding - that was his (charming!) answer!
Well, I PONDERED that experience for some time, and then one day the ACTUAL answer hit me out of the blue:
CHAMELEONS have a single eye on EACH SIDE OF THEIR HEAD, so TRUE "BINOCULAR" vision ISN'T POSSIBLE, hence "Binocular DEPTH PERCEPTION" ISN'T possible either...
... but CHAMELEONS are CLEVER little creatures, so if they CAN'T get a PAIR of SHIFTED IMAGES at the SAME time from TWO eyes places ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER...
... then they've learned you can STILL get that PAIR of SHIFTED IMAGES at nearly-the-same-time from ONE eye BOBBING (read "SHIFTING") UP & DOWN & UP & DOWN !
:-O
Once I realized that's what CHAMELEONS were doing, I found myself watching many OTHER animals with EYES ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THEIR SKULLS, and I realized they ALL perform this SAME MOTION - SHIFTING their heads up & down (or left & right) quickly, getting 2 DIFFERENT (SHIFTED!) pictures from ONE EYE in order to gain some perception of DEPTH :-O
- Many BIRDS do this...
- Many FISH do this...
- Some species of DEER do this...
... and I THINK that MARK and TOBI may be UNCONSCIOUSLY doing this as well when they're SHOOTING :-O
I mean, ALL you have is WALK SIDEWAYS past a target that's at 40m, and in a single step you end up with 2 SHIFTED images, and your brain starts PROCESSING that and PERCEIVING "DEPTH"
:-O
Immensely interesting discussion, and SO GLAD you posted!
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS A very interesting story, and not at all too far off from exactly what I do. I do so in a stationary position most of the time by 'leaning into the shot' which means I lean my head slightly back as I knock the arrow and then when I spot the target I lean my head back into a normal position while drawing hence my 'see it and shoot it' style.
But I also do something else which is less common. I can unfocus my eyes on demand essentially, and by unfocusing them for even a moment and then focusing them again I can get a good idea od 'depth'. When hunting larger animals I will usually sit with relatively unfocused eyes, only focusing in when I spot movement. I only use this long larger prey and for those 'Sit in the same spot for hours' kind of hunts as it's of little use otherwise.
That secondary one is a very uncommon one and I've only met one other person who can unfocus their eyes while still remaining aware of their surroundings. Most people have to lose focus all together to do so. I never found out why I could do so but both myself and the other mentioned person have a mutation of the eyes so I guess I could be realted to that.
Fun Fact: I got my idea of leaning my head from observing eagles back home. It seems we both got our ideas of how exactly to apply the idea of artificial depth perceptions from animals we observed.
Basically left eye dominant shoot left handed I shot right hand for 38 years I'm not right eye dominant anymore I shoot awesome left handed now because I'm left eye dominant due to muscle weakness in right eye
Greetings & Merry Christmas James!
Hmmm... LEFT eye dominant AND shooting LEFT-HANDED?
YOU simply get to use The VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD - MIRROR IMAGE VERSION:
1. CHOOSE your GAP;
2. ANCHOR under your CHIN;
3. LOOK down the RIGHT EDGE of the bowstring (instead of the left);
4. PLACE the ARROWTIP directly ON THE BULLSEYE; and
5. Perform a SMALL-MOTION release
I'm still NOT clear if you've even TRIED this shooting method - have you?
Awaiting your reply,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Thanks for this video. After my third lesson and shooting right-handed I've just discovered it's my left eye that is very dominant and also doesn't need glasses for far sight, while my right eye is pretty bad and needs glasses for far sight. So now I need to choose what to do.
I guess I'll try shooting shooting left-handed for a while and see how that goes. That would have my preference. The condition of both arms is also crap after these two corona years, so I'll be working on strengthening both arms anyway. I'll certainly also try your method of right-handed under the chin.
Thanks again!
Greetings & Welcome Nicolas !
1. You shoot right-handed, so your shooting MUSCLES are all developing for RIGHT-HANDED shooting;
2. Right-Handed EQUIPMENT is far far far far EASIER to find, and CHEAPER to BUY;
3. You just learned a method where you CAN use your dominant LEFT eye and STILL shoot ACCURATELY RIGHT-HANDED;
4. You MAY (likely?) have already BOUGHT a RIGHT-HANDED GLOVE or TAB;
5. your BOW is ALREADY RIGHT-HANDED;
6. your ARROWS are already right-handed (and metric) ;-)
Just went to the range today hit two bullseye but im glad to find this video because I am left eye dominant
Joseph!
MUSIC TO MY EARS !!
Glad you found this helpful!
-Mark
thanks for this. was looking at getting into archery, but i'm right handed and my right eye is duff so didnt know if it was even possible. :)
Greetings Rob!
I GET SO MANY COMPLIEMENTS ON THIS VIDEO - GLAD you found it useful !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I am left handed but right eye dominant
I will give it a try this week when I go to the range. Let see how it goes !!!
Hi again Malcolm !
I'm looking forward to hearing from you !
We both KNOW this technique WORKS:
- I literally DEMONSTRATE it working for a RIGHT-handed shooter pretending to be LEFT-eye dominant; AND
- There are at least a handful of other visitors (subscribers) WORLDWIDE (only half my 75,000+ views/mo come from the USA), who CONFIRM that it worked for them - LOOK AT THE COMMENTS HERE !
Cheerio,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I'm left eye dominant and have been shooting rifle, pistol and bow right handed and have no
problem cutting the centre out of a target.
Tim,
That's GREAT - then this video ISN'T for you, now is it?
;-)
It IS for all of the other people who DON'T (doesn't matter if it's "can't" or "won't") shoot right-handed.
I'm clear on WHY you commented.
Comments are supposed to be CONSTRUCTIVE, so WHO are you HELPING with YOUR comment?
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Very interesting method. I watched a few of your other videos and was wandering how to applied it when dominant eye is crossed with dominat side. I am just a newbie in this archery world. Lefty but found out I shoot much more confortably shooting righty. However my dominant eye is my left eye. My first class I shot both eyes openned and that way my arrow before shooting seemed to have to be located on the low left side of the target in order to get my shot in the center target area. On the last part of my 2nd class I started experimenting closing my left eye and then immediatelly the arrow before shooting moves to the middle of the target, however I had to aim quite low in order to get shots in the center area of the target. I tried again this method in my 3rd class with good results. I find it better to have to compensate only going up than having to do it up and left. But I definetely have to close my left eye otherwise it wants to take control of my sightview. Yesterday I found you first video and seems like a very good option to avoid having to do any type of compensations. Will definitely try it in my next range practices. Going to this specific video, I see that you also close one eye when you aim in this method so this would right away remove the problem of dominant eye. And considering you get a better position without having to tilt your head when you use your right eye, even as a left eye dominant shooting righty I think is just better to get used to use you right eye and keep a better form. Of course, if you have problems or impediments to close your dominant left eye then what you show in this video will be a perfect option to move forward. Sorry for the long post. Regards from Argentina!!!!
Hi (third time in a single evening) Malcolm !
THIS video was filmed in response to a woman with PRECISELY the SAME situation as you:
- Shooting Right-Handed (doesn't really matter WHY); and
- LEFT Eye Dominant;
She's since tried this method - anchoring UNDER the chin means IN FRONT OF her face, so it IS possible to shift the LEFT eye over to sight down the left edge of the bowstring - and she was IMMENSELY PLEASED with her performance !
Give it a try, and report back how it feels !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I'm left eye dominant right handed and I also have mandibular prognathism which is a fancy term to say that I have underbite like Jay Leno. I have a good jaw and chin so I'll be able to aim under the chin easily ;)
Give it try!
I'm right handed, left eye dominant. I just shot with my right eye🤷♂️. Only down side is I struggle to shoot both eyes open
Greetings Sheepdog !
I'm confused - DID you watch the video and TRY this method?
It's not clear from your post.
Please let me know !
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Hi, great tip, will definitely try it out!
I am very right handed and have left eye dominance. Would you recommend keep training my right eye to be the dominant one or to try and master the bow in opposite hand?
Greetings squid and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS !
Please know I composed a detailed reply for you this past Sunday morning...
... then somehow Starbucks (where I was typing) had a network hiccup and I LOST that entire reply !
I HATE WHEN THIS HAPPENS !!
It took me until today to RE-author the reply - here goes.
MARK'S RECOMMENDATION:
If you shoot "VERY RIGHT-HANDED" then likely you do OTHER things also "VERY RIGHT-HANDED":
- you likely SWING a BASEBALL BAT right-handed;
- you likely SHOOT POOL right-handed;
- you likely SHOOT a RIFLE right-handed;
- you likely SHOOT a PISTOL right-handed;
In each of these activities there is merit to being RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT as well, so there's your rationale in FAVOR of re-training your brain to be RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT :-)
so there is high merit to you RE-TRAINING YOUR BRAIN TO BE RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT
NOW COMES THE TRICKY PART - HOW to RE-TRAIN YOUR BRAIN TO BE RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT?
SIMPLE (so I'm told by experts who have either "transitioned" themselves or helped someone "transition"
1. WEAR SHOOTING GLASSES (yellow lenses) at least for the training;
2. STICK a small dot (size of a DIME is all that's needed) of MASKING TAPE over the CENTER of the LEFT LENS.
That's it.
I'm told that your brain's reaction will be almost INSTANTANEOUS, and go like this:
Your LEFT eye WON'T be able to see The Target; so
Your RIGHT eye will begin to FOCUS in a way you've never EXPERIENCED before.
You will begin to feel literally PHYSICALLY "ODD"
Your brain will FIGHT
Your RIGHT eye will struggle to FOCUS because it's not accustomed to having so much "ATTENTION"
It will literally become DIFFICULT TO CONCENTRATE
I'VE TRIED THIS - TRY TO READ SOME WORDS ON A SIGN ON A NEARBY WALL - YOU WILL ACTUALLY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP YOUR NOW-DOMINANT RIGHT EYE "HELD" ON EACH LETTER, EACH WORD IN THAT SIGN !
Your eye will begin to DANCE AROUND what you're trying VAINLY to FOCUS UPON.
You will want to pee yourself. I'm not kidding
THEN...
... your brain suddenly "transitions" - it's like you reach a HIGHER LEVER OF CONSCIOUSNESS or something
I know - fucking WEIRD it what it is, but it HAPPENS
You WILL be able to FOCUS and STEADY on the TARGET
You WILL be able to SHOOT - at least at LARGE targets at SHORTER DISTANCES.
Then when you take those glasses off, you will REVERT.
You will have to REPEAT this training MULTIPLE TIMES a WEEK until the transition starts to "stick"
KEEP AT IT UNTIL IT STICKS.
Best of luck - come back in a few weeks and report on your experience!
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
They made me buy a left handed bow lmao but it feels nice
i'm looking to start archery and finding a left-handed bow is the same as finding a unicorn, so i hope this might help me whenever i start
Sam!
DON’T DESPAIR - there are PLENTY of starter bows out there which be shot EITHER left-handed or right-handed!
Here are some I’VE purchased and I LOVED them:
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i just started learning how to shoot a recurve and i never saw this method. i was taught to shoot instinctive. i shoot with both eyes open
Greetings JTepsr and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS !
EVERYONE learns "Instinctive" shooting when they first start shooting barebow - either as youth (like me in Northern Minnesota here in the USA) or as an adult.
I was no different.
JUST like everyone, as a young pre-teen growing up in Boy Scouts in the hinterlands of the Minnesota "412 Region" (a part of Minnesota that is basically more LAKES than LAND) I was handed a 20# fiberglass recurve bow and taught how to NOT ACTUALLY AIM AT THE TARGET, but instead aim SOMEPLACE OTHER THAN THE TARGET.
JUST like everyone, at first I DIDN'T question this; instead I merely (and quickly) grew DISINTERESTED in shooting barebow, because - frankly speaking - it DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. Not when you're also learning to shoot rifles and shotguns and pistols, and they all had SIGHTS which were ALIGNED with the BARREL (hence in line with the BULLET)....
But later in life I returned to archery - first with a Compound Bow with its front & rear sights DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE ARROW, and while I was shooting I was often standing next to OLYMPIC RECURVE archers as well.
Later when I grew weary of the artificially-effortless accuracy that comes with Compound Bows (I mean no disrespect here, but you all KNOW what I mean), I returned to BAREBOW - shooting INSTINCTIVELY, but starting to WONDER and QUESTION why this clearly-FLAWED shooting method still had such an obsessive grip on so many people.
So I began to STUDY Olympic Recurve Archers...
And I also began to STUDY another shooting technique called STRINGWALKING...
THEN one day I started experimenting with COMBINING THESE METHODS.
And so the "VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD" was born.
I invite you to try it.
You won't die.
You're not an "infidel".
You CAN compete at ALL FITA indoor & outdoor competitions :-o
This method ELIMINATES the (multiple) FLAWS in "instinctive" barebow, and replaces them with the STRENGTHS of Compound Bow Archery and Olympic Recurve Archery :-O.
CAN you still shoot INSTINCTIVELY? Absolutely YES - and sometimes it's the BEST method for a particular shot !
But for those situations where PRECISION is required, and the distance ISN'T something you've practiced & practiced & practiced, the VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD is just-another-arrow-in-your-quiver, so to speak ;-)
It's nice to have CHOICES.
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
I have a slight dilemma! Just started archery and I'm right-handed as well as footed. My right eye is much, much clearer vision-wise but my left is weaker, yet unfortunately dominant. Should I continue shooting right handed and using my strong right eye and learning to cope with the dominance of the left, or immediately switch to a left-handed bow even though that eye is weaker?? Very confused! Any suggestions? Thank you!
Greetings & Happy New Year Imus !
PONDERING...
I've read & re-read your words carefully, and see one small-but-important assumption you're making which in fact is not valid...
Throughout your (detailed) description you appear to be working under the assumption that "Eye Dominance is Unchangeable".
GOOD NEWS: EYE DOMINANCE IS A LEARNED "HABIT" WHICH CAN (AND REGULARLY IS) CHANGEABLE !!!
:-)
Q: IS it SIMPLE to "RE-TRAIN" your RIGHT eye to be dominant ?
A: YES - actually it IS as simple as WEARING AND EYE PATCH over your EYE (or paper taped to glasses) whenever you are shooting your bow.
Q: IS is EASY to "RE-TRAIN" your RIGHT eye to be dominant?
A: IT VARIES FROM PERSON TO PERSON.
- You're basically FORCING your brain to WORK HARDER, so it will (temporarily) RESIST being "re-wired";
- for SOME people this is EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE; they have trouble focusing, concentrating, their brain literally starts SCREAMING at them to CHANGE EYE ! CHANGE EYE ! until they GIVE IN and STOP;
- for SOME people this is COMPARATIVELY TRIVIAL; they notice an initial few minutes (that's it!) of "discomfort" where they too can almost hear their brain SCREAMING "CHANGE EYE ! CHANGE EYE ! I DON'T LIKE THIS !!!", but they IGNORE this message, and after just a few minutes their brain literally RE-WIRES itself and they begin to shoot quiet ACCURATELY - but more importantly they shoot COMFORTABLY while aiming with their "NEW" dominant eye :-O
There's even a Nicholas Cage movie from the 90's about this: "FIREBIRDS" (1990). It's about a conventional helicopter pilot (Cage) who wants to become an ATTACK HELICOPTER PILOT, only he finds out that the HELMET the new pilots have to wear all have a HUD over their LEFT eye, and HE'S LEFT-EYE DOMINANT :-O. What you see HIM go through to re-train HIS brain is hilarious, so I suggest you watch it !
SUMMARY OF BEST ADVICE:
- SHOOT RIGHT-HANDED; it simply makes SENSE given you're RIGHT-HANDED;
- RE-TRAIN your brain to become RIGHT-EYE DOMINANT
- IF you wear GLASSES, then place a small piece of tape in the MIDDLE of your LEFT LENS, so it's "DISTRACTED";
This will immediately trigger your brain to "shift dominance" to your RIGHT EYE, but with BOTH EYES OPEN, I
predict you'll be PLEASANTLY SURPRISED how QUICKLY this shift occurs :-O !
- If you DON'T wear glasses, then wear CHEAP SUNGLASSES and POP OUT the RIGHT LENS !
These techniques WILL "make your BRAIN uncomfortable" - some people even feel queasy like they need to pee (yeah - weird!) - but IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY !
Let us know how this goes.
You've just given me an idea for my NEXT VIDEO !! WATCH FOR IT !
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS OMG! Thanks so so much for such a detailed reply! You were right aboust my assumption, so I will definitely look into that! Just took my bow outside after researching and watching this video and noticed exactly how much eye dominance affects shooting in archery! I aimed around 20cms more to the left and started hitting the target so much more frequent! This is an incredibly weird sensation but will work/do anything to improve my skills! Happy new year to you too and I definitely will look out for your next video! Thanks,
Imus
Greetings & Happy New Year Imus !
"... incredibly weird sensation" ? Yup - that pretty much describes what it's like to start forcing your NON-dominant eye to become your DOMINANT eye ! What you're experiencing is literally billions of neurons gradually "re-mapping" (reconnecting) to form brand-new, never-before-existed pathways in your brain's vision-processing region - the Occipital Lobe at the rear, just above the cerebellum (primitive brain) .
PERSISTANCE & DETERMINATION ALONE WILL WIN THE DAY HERE !
IMAGINE you actually DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE - like you suffered the LOSS of your currently-dominant left eye, and you get the idea.
IT CAN BE DONE !
The EASIEST ROUTE is the one I mentioned WEAR SUNGLASSES WITH THE LEFT LENS COVERED, so BOTH EYES are OPEN while you're aiming, but your currently-dominant LEFT eye is somehow "IMPEDED" from operating !
This WILL cause your brain to "SHIFT GEARS" and OVER-COMPENSATE vision-processing "priority" over to the RIGHT EYE, which is what you want :-)
MAKE SURE you're anchoring UNDER YOUR CHIN, so your RIGHT eye then has 2 VISUAL "LANDMARKS" for sighting right down the arrow:
1. the LEFT EDGE of your bow string; and
2. the ARROW TIP
This will HELP your RIGHT eye begin to take over aiming, as your NEW pattern then becomes this:
RIGHT EYE - LEFT EDGE OF BOWSTRING - TIP OF ARROW - CENTER OF TARGET
CHECK IN next week and let us know how you're doing !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
This helped me out so much!!!!
Greetings Maddie !
You're actually the THIRD PERSON to take time to thank me for this video :-O
I had NO IDEA there were so many people out there struggling to learn archery, but challenged by a mis-matched hand/eye dominance.
SUPER GLAD (even PROUD) that you found this video USEFUL :-)
WATCH for UPCOMING VIDEOS where I shoot a 25# recurve bow "CROSS-HANDED" (sounds better than "cross-EYED" doesn't it? ;-) ) all the way out to 60m (even 70m) :-O !!
IF THAT INTERESTS YOU... please subscribe and hit the NOTIFICATIONS button !
Cheers!
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
You might have just saved me. Right handed / blind right eye.
I quit shooting because of this
Hi Byron!
I’m SURPRISED how much POSITIVE FEEDBACK I’m getting for this video!
I’ve lost count how many people have thanked me!
You’ll see this technique works surprisingly well even on 40# and 45# bows :-O
Cheers
Mark Vogt l VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Very educational. I've never heard of string walking. Do you ever experience an arrow coming out of nock? I'm also assuming when you do this you are looking/aiming the full length if arrow at target.
Greetings Jeff !
Hmmmm... you've NEVER (yet) heard of "String Walking" ??
Please know I DIDN'T invent "String Walking" as a method for precisely adjusting the elevation (hence the range) of an arrow by creating this "gap" between the Nocking Point of the Arrow and the Drawing Point of your Index Finger;.
What I HAVE done is develop a METHOD for String Walking easily, quickly & accurately using only 2 easy-to-determine, easy-to-remember numbers. And MY approach to String Walking empowers you to shoot any common 35# to 50# bow (recurve bow or long bow) accurately and POINT-ON at all distances from 5m aaaallll the way out to 90m :-O
Let me answer your questions:
QUESTION:
Do I ever experience arrows "slipping out of nock"?
CLARIFICATION:
I think you mean "do I ever experience the nock of the arrow slipping off the bowstring because the slot of the nock is "engaged" at what ends up being a 45 deg angle when at Full Draw?
ANSWER:
Yes - but it's actually quite RARE, and it's ACTUALLY about the NOCK plastic being spread too WIDE, and NOT about the ANGLE at which the nock is engaging the bowstring :-O
All I have to do is take that (rare) offending arrow, and using my teeth bite down on the nock a bit, to narrow the too-wide gap. I've never had to do this more than once to any nock, and I'd say I only remember doing this to less than 5 arrows across the past DECADE - not kidding.
QUESTION:
Am I looking down the entire length of the arrow at Full Draw?
ANSWER:
Yes - absolutely - but EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, at EVERY SINGLE DISTANCE from 5m all the way out to 90m, I am placing the tip of my arrowhead DIRECTLY ON THE BULLSEYE OF WHATEVER I'M AIMING AT. I'm NEVER aiming at some weird point-in-outer-space OFF-TARGET :-O
QUALIFICATION:
There IS one single scenario wherein I DO (I MUST) place the tip of the arrowhead somewhere OTHER than right-smack-on-the-dead-center-of-the-target: That's when there's a SIGNIFICANT CROSS WIND.
This is a reality for EVERY SINGLE SHOOTING METHOD OF EVERY SINGLE SHOOTING "DEVICE" ON THE PLANET IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, so I'm no exception to this RULE of PHYSICS.
REALITY:
CROSSWINDS push ALL arrow SIDEWAYS as they travel to the target. Period.
PRACTICAL REALITY:
-- IF the wind is 0 mph to 5 mph, I can STILL aim POINT-ON at 90m, and will see only about 2 inches of "drift"
-- IF the wind is 5 mph to 10 mph, I can STILL aim POINT-ON "height-wise" at 90m, but I'll need to shift SIDEWAYS about 6 inches TOWARD the wind; then the wind will DRIFT the arrow BACK the 6 inches, and I'll land near the bullseye.
NOW I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU !
1. HOW NEW are you to ARCHERY?
2. WHAT KIND of Archery interests you?
3. WHAT are you DOING about that interest?
Looking forward to a dialogue !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS Thank you Mark for the answers to all my questions.
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS as to how new I am to archery. I'm a rerun. I'm restoring a Person longbow that I was fairly good with when I had this bow at 14 yrs old. I'm 71 now. I plan on using it again by purchasing necessary equipment and practicing.
Hi Mark,
I am left-eyed dominant and right handed. I tried what you did in video but I was using a sight and It did not work. It might work with string-walking since there is no sight. I wished I had seen this many years sooner than I might not had to become a lefty archer.
Great idea if you string-walk. Abe Rags.
Greetings Professor Rags !
Hmmm... you "tried what I did but were using a sight"?
Hmmmmmmmmmm....
Let's try NOT using the sight, as you suggested - come back & tell us about your experience !! f
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS
Hi Mark,
I will have to use my wife's RH bow the next time I go shooting. I'll tape it and send it to you.0
@@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS
Hi Mark,
I am still working on my from with string walk. Changed my anchor point to under my chin, with the string in my cleft chin and nose on string my groupings were much smaller. When my from is more consistent I will try a RH bow.
Thanks for theching me the chin anchor point.
Does this method work for Left handed people who are right eye dominant?
Greetings SBW Girl!
SHORT ANSWER: this very video was developed for PRECISELY YOUR SITUATION !
Good luck !
-Mark
I wanted to ask the same question
can you tilt your head to the side like you do when you stretch your neck to the side to shoot a left handed bow to aim with my dominant right eye?
todos esos lugares que vas parece que son publicos y eso es una chulada
en españa la mayoria son clubs privados y en lugares particulares no se puede disparar
¡Hola Josep!
Eres CORRECTO: nuestro campo de tiro con arco local de Blackwell Forest Preserve ES PÚBLICO, ¡TAN genial!
Dicho esto, de hecho, hay sólo unos POCOS rangos PÚBLICOS en toda el área de "Chicagoland". Solo tengo suerte de que este esté a solo 6 millas (9 km) de mi casa :-)
Hopefully I shoot as well with a bow being right-handed and left eye dominant as I do firearms. When I was in Marine Corps boot camp they tried to make me shoot left-handed because I'm left eye dominant. I tried to tell them I was comfortable shooting right-handed using my left eye but they still made me try left-handed anyway. I shot okay left-handed but definitely not great. When they let me switch back to right-handed I was the second highest shooter in the entire company. It was a one-point difference between me and the leader. I actually just ordered my first bow so I guess we're about to find out.
Greetings Raider and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS !
In case you're curious, this video has received well over 14,000 (fourteen THOUSAND) views and over 860 HOURS of viewing time since I posted it - what - 2 years ago?
And only HALF of those views/hours were inside the USA - the rest came from OUTSIDE the USA, where people were DELIBERATELY SEARCHING for this kind of video.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE in being "cross-eye dominant" !
That said, I look forward to hearing back from you soon !
-Mark
I’m also right handed, left eye dominant. How do you simply shoot a rifle right handed with your left eye? Could you explain further?? I find myself having too shoot my rifles left handed because I have too shut my right eye too see through my scope properly.
@@SpacedFallenI’m right handed and left eye dominant. You will need to lean your head over the but of the rifle so your left eye lines up with the scope, I grew up shooting this way but as I got older I could not get my eye low enough to see through the scope correctly. In many cases you will need to put higher rings on otherwise your eye will not line up with the scope correctly or just get left handed riffles. My hunting rifles are left handed.
One bonus is I can now shoot just a well right or left handed.
I have damaged my right eye in sport lost most my vision in it and am right handed find it very hard to aim with bow or a gun
Greetings Taffy & WELCOME to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS !
Please clarify - are you telling me this video HELPED you learn how to use your LEFT eye in order to still shoot right-handed?
I'm hoping you say "yes", but if you're still struggling, then write back to me, and let's see what ELSE is available, including learning to shoot LEFT-HANDED.
Hoping to hear from you!
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
When I was able to shot my compound bow before the string got fucked when I went to shot an arrow I always tilted my head to the right to align my left eye to the peep sight and I found it was easy and worked I also didn't need to twist my head either. So you could imagine how far I tilted my head but hey if it isn't broken don't fix it, or in this case if it works for me why change the method. Kind of wonder how my specific method would apply to traditional bows like Recurves and Long bows if I ever decided to get one.
Greetings Arturo !
You're a man & archer after my own heart - you DARE to EXPERIMENT and "PUSH THE ENVELOPE" of archery shooting methods, NOT worrying about staying within the safe-but-at-times-INEFFECTIVE boundaries of CONVENTION :-) ...
MORE POWER TO YOU !
Me?
I've been SO SURPRISED about the COMMENTS this particular video has garnered ! SO MANY archers STRUGGLING with mis-matched eye-hand dominance have PRAISED this video; I honestly DIDN'T know this affliction was so COMMON !
YOU & I are in complete agreement - the actual AMOUNT you have to tilt IS surprisingly SMALL; even when I'M aiming, I notice that the actual distance between my RIGHT eye looking down the bowstring's left edge, and my LEFT eye looking down that same bowstring left edge is less than an inch !
LASTLY, if you're ALREADY anchoring UNDER your chin (and therefore your head is BEHIND the bowstring rather than ALONGSIDE it), then you CAN shoot literally ANY bow using this anchoring method. In fact, this is an INTEGRAL PART of the VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD !
WATCH some more of my videos - you'll see !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
right handed left eyed shooter as well, and I was already doing this without knowing it had a name! Haha the only difference between this technique and what I do is I cant the bow to the right a little under 45°. The head cock, anchoring under the chin and canting of the bow all come together to make cross dominance handicap disappear pretty much
Greetings Jordan and welcome to VOGTLAND OUTDOORS !
PLEASE feel free to call your technique the "ARTHER SHOOTING METHOD" - I won't mind a bit !
;-)
Believe me, I WASN'T seeking glory or fame (or notoriety) when I decided to NAME this cross-dominant-eyed shooting method. I was merely pushing the limits of The VOGTLAND SHOOTING METHOD one morning, and realized that because my shooting method lets you anchor UNDER your chin and IN FRONT OF your face, you COULD in fact use EITHER EYE to shoot !
And it turns out there are a LOT (a WHOLE LOT!) of people with this predicament in archery !
:-O
WHO KNEW?
Yet a year later, this video has seen THOUSANDS & THOUSANDS of view - many of them MULTIPLE views from the SAME people worldwide !
GLAD so many people have found it helpful, and empowered they to CONTINUE THEIR LOVE OF ARCHERY !
Kind regards,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
This is what i am struggling with
Greetings Manny !
HOPE you found this video USEFUL then !
It's actually quite STRAIGHTFORWARD shooting like this - give it a try !
And then come back and report your findings (good or bad) - we're all here to HELP !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
you can just shoot both eyes open like the pros do
For some of us shooting with both eyes open causes a bigger issues as the eyes can “fight” over dominance.
@@inalaska1709 yup thats true
Watch the fucking dog!
Sim,
Relax.
You must doubt YOUR dog (and shooting) far more than I doubt MY dog (and shooting).
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Eye dominancy is bs crap, all you need is to use common sense, to realize which eye you are using to aim, there is this woman I know who can't hit a 4' x 4' from 6 yards, ha ha she is an Engineer but uses no-common-sense.
Besides this being a horribly put together and somehow single sentence, if you believe eye dominance in archery is BS it must be nice being able to comment on things you have no experience on.
While that will work at a set distance. When you change distance it will change your poi.
My dad started me shooting at 10 yards and I learned where to aim to stack arrows in a quarter, but when I started moving back from 15-60 yards my group was just a tight, but it would be off to the side. The father back the more off I would be. Changing my hold point to more centered on my face fixed it.