@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 Your comment makes absolutely NO SENSE. How can George Lucas “not understand” the very thing he himself created??? It’s so-called fans like you who make me 🤮🤮🤮
@@benjagain399 Yaaaahhhh.... Except as a SW fan you know GL didnt actually write many of the characters and didnt write the stories or scripts. He had an idea, an idea that was very, very, very, very different from the final product and then better writers came in and edited that idea to be something far better than what GL came up with. You can find what GL came up with, its called "The Star Wars", its an unedited, pure GL SW script, 4 part mini-series... its trash.
I originally discovered your channel with the changes videos almost 10 years ago, before the sequels were even announced. Thank you for this decade of incredible videos!
The Disney plus version was based on the 1997 release so that’s why a lot of the 2004 and 2011 edits look a bit different because they need to be added back in
This almost sounds like Lucasfilm is as good at keeping track of their countless versions as I am at naming and archiving my word documents. Seriously though, that‘s very interesting. Do you know the reason behind this?
@@ft4709 because the 2004 and 2011 scans where not capable of going higher then 1080p and it had to be redone for the now cancelled 3D release because of the fact the only film prints where the 1997 the 2004 and 2011 where digital only
@@samuel-wankenobi This is somewhat correct, except that the 1997 version was a photochemical restoration of the original negative with the CG stuff cut in and a few shots recomposited. It wasn't done entirely digitally until 2004. The 2004 DVD is basically the 1997 version of the negative with additional digital cleanup from Lowry Digital and tinkering from ILM. If memory serves, that was scanned at 1080p, because hi-def wasn't a thing yet. The 2011 first edition Blu Ray was not a new scan. It was basically the 2004 scan with a few new changes added, missing lightsaber cores added in and a few sloppy mistakes from the DVD version corrected, including some color timing changes. Finally after the Blu-ray came out but before Lucas sold out to Disney, they did the 4K restoration through Reliance Mediaworks. That was a new scan of the negative, with all the digital stuff re-rendered to work in 4K. This is the version that's on Disney+, 4K UHD disc, and the remastered standard blu rays that are included with the UHD versions.
RELEASE THE SNYDERCUT! I mean the AYERCUT! I mean the LUCASCUT! Wait, no, the other Lucascut - the original Lucas.... You know what, forget it. I'mma read a book or something.
I legit never noticed the Ghost of Luke in that doorway until you mentioned it today. That's quite insane given how many times i've rewatched the Skywalker saga after the Blu-ray release came.
Now that I have the despecialized editions I don't care if they ever release an official original unaltered trilogy. Harmey and his team made something George told us was impossible.
Lol 80% of that version is special edition footage, big deal, compared to restoring an original camera negative that's easy. Team 4k did a clean up of the gout DVD in two hours, that's not really that time consuming
As someone who grew up on the 2011 version, I thought I would be attached to that version, since it's my childhood memory. But having finally seen the Harmy version, I actually love the coloring. Human skin tone looks much more natural. That said, while it's nice to see the original effects and movie unaltered, there were a couple small mistakes like the lightsaber being a prop/missing the special effects. There were also certain Special Edition changes that have become more iconic, such as the ring shockwave when the planets/Death Star blow up. Feels weird not having it. I also like how the SE version of Mos Eisley gives us extended shots, makes the city feel bigger, more alive and full with aliens, rather than just human extras walking around. The finale trench run space battle I can go either way. I like seeing the original Yavin planet and original fighter effects, but there were a couple shots that felt kinda dated where I think the SE re-done effects did the dogfighting scene better. If I could have DeHarmy's coloring with some of the SE changes, that would be my ideal Star Wars. I like both the official version and the unofficial fan one.
With the Han/Greedo sequence, in the Special Editions, particularly 2011 one, firing both together gives it a High Noon Duel kind of a vibe. Both men fire a shot simultaneously, only one remains standing (or sitting, as it were). But in the original 1977 and Harmy's DeSpecialized, it feels like it's taking inspiration from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." It reminded me very much of the famous scene in the bathtub where he says, "If you're gonna shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
@@robinanwaldt He restored the colors to a more natural look. Cronenberg has been doing the opposite lately with his movies and every US release has major alterations to the color-timing.
I recently found the dvd box set that includes the theatrical versions of the original trilogy for $2 at a thrift store. It took me years to find them, but I now have an official release of the original versions that isn’t on vhs.
A fly. We've had a fly for 42 years, something nobody even cared about, but all of the sudden, it matters. It must have been something that was caught during the early 3D conversion stages of things because it means someone would have had to make sure that fly didn't screw with the illusion, so instead they edited it out. A fly! George had meddled with the movies so much that he resorted to adding new dialog and removing flies from shots because nothing could ever be perfect enough. It was perfect to begin with man, as a founder of a film preservation organization, you would think George would have followed his own beliefs on film preservation. It's a fly, I shouldn't even be getting this worked up about it, but there's just something about the fact that this movie has been meddled with so many times, and not once before then was this fly an issue. The best thing about this is that Raiders of the Lost Arc has a very famous fly, it lands on Paul Freeman's lip and goes into his mouth, not one beat does he stop delivering his line, it's like he doesn't even notice, and instead of going with a different take of the line or going for a reshoot, or even editing it out since it's never once acknowledged by anyone in the scene in digital versions of the movie, that was the take that was kept and used and has stayed. This fly in the Lars Homestead is so remote and unremarkable that it stayed in the movie for 42 years, or I guess in reality it would be about 35 years at the latest, and it's suddenly an issue. Just, why? We've kept a Stormtrooper bonking his head and even giving him dialog in edits later instead of trying to reedit that from happening in the first place, but the fly, it's gone too far, it's overstayed its welcome. HO. LY. CRAP. 🤣
At least the original colors are back. Kind of a testament to how George was the one who "destroyed" SW with his perfectionism and unchallenged creative decisions.
I've never noticed the fly before, but it's "imperfections" like a fly buzzing around that give movies a real "lived in" atmosphere. It's a farm in the desert. it shouldn't be pretty.
Well said, 44 years later and this is the first time i've ever known about that fly.....what I do know about is all the god damn tinkering they have done. When I watched the 4K77 version I thought I was watching the film again for the first time - it was a totally refreshing experience!
The fly probably could have done a better job with the special editions than George Lucas, and it probably would have preferred landing on shit to selling out the franchise to Disney.
I think I read that they used the 1997 prints as the basis for the 4K remaster and many post-1997 changes had to be redone. Hence the small differences.
To me, the 2004 versions of the OT should have been the FINAL cut. It was before the "NOOO" the "Maclunkey" and all the hyper fixations, and it became clear these changes were not for continuity or visual enhancement, but George's own desire to alter the film. Which we may never understand truly why. The 2004 cuts were questionable, but tolerable to an extent. Imo, the Maclunkey was most likely a joke. It was George's last laugh, he intended to show it in 3D, cause a stir over the drama for its controversy and then chuckle to himself. A PR stunt.
Except that from a visual standpoint, the 2004 versions had some pretty egregious quality control issues. Missing lightsaber cores, crushed black levels, flipped audio on the surround channels in sections. They were a mess and most of those issues weren't corrected until at least 2011 - but at that time, George fixed a few things but broke others.
Content wise the 2004 version of Jedi is the latest version that I actually tolerate. In fact when I first watched Jedi Rocks when I was around 5 years old I cringed even then. Thankfully the version that I had as a kid was the 2006 trilogy with the theatrical cuts from the Laser disc set and since our TV was smaller I didn’t know about those being pillar boxed until we got a bigger tv, so for a long time those original theatrical ones were the one I watched over and over (thankfully none of them are scratched) So I’m in a unique position as someone from Gen z who grew up on the originals because I didn’t like Jedi Rocks right off the bat and was actively avoiding it.
"Which we may never understand truly why." -- money When the 2004 versions came out, it was said these would be the "archival" versions of the films. Then Lucas released the 2011 blu-ray with "deleted footage", that he had all along, which tells me it's all been a cash grab since 1997.
@@MrAjking808 He directed it. But he didn't edit it alone. He also wasn't responsible for the practical effects work at ILM, or the work from Gil Taylor on the Cinematography. Revisions to the OT ultimately harmed the vision that the crew worked on, in my eyes. One man does not make a movie. It's a group effort.
An original trilogy release with the ability to switch between the different versions literally minute by minute would make disney all the money back that they’ve lost in the last 5 years.
It’s a shame they cancelled the 3D release and there isn’t any 3D content on Disney+. I’ve had a 3D TV for years now and it’s so stunning and immersive.
MANAGED TO GET A COPY OF ALL 3 RECENTLY AND I WILL NEVER AGAIN WATCH ANY OTHER VERSION I HAVE. THE PUBLIC GETS WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS. A MASSIVE THANK YOU TO ALL WHO CREATED 4K77 4K80 4K83 ❤
My question exactly as well. DISNEY. OWNS. FOX. What is stopping them from obtaining the original prints of these films? Why would they NOT try to make more money? Fans will eat it all up!
I like the 2004, 2011/2019 and of course Theatrical versions. 1997 is pretty much like 2004 but without the pinkish blue colour tint, a new Hope is worse cause of the shitty Cg Jabba.
One change i hate is the scene where Vader yells "NOOO!" while Palpatine is shocking Luke, and they literally reused that audio from Revenge the of sith. in the original it was just emotion
Man I love Star Wars, I love these kind of comparison videos. Just recently re-bought the 2011 bluray collection because it is my favourite box set and I love the Anakin and Luke artwork on the front cover. I want to properly get into harmy’s version as well too. I know exactly what you mean about official preservation. I don’t think anyone would care about the changes of the special editions if the original was preserved well. I’m so glad we got Harmy’s version, I watched A New Hope and it was refreshing to see Han and Greedo’s scene unaltered. Anyway, love you all 🎉.
Harmy's version surprised me. I too love the 2011 edition, and that was "my" version I saw first as a kid, but having finally seen the Despecialized, I was impressed by how good it is. It was nice to see the original effects and shots, for historical sake, and the coloring was much improved with natural skin tones for people rather than reddish faces. I did find myself missing a couple of the SE changes though.
#HanShotOnly Despite thinking it would've made Han look like a cold-blooded killer, the scene should have stayed the way it was, having Han shooting Greedo from beneath the table while they were talking. It was clearly indicated by Greedo that he had every intention to shoot Han, collect the bounty that was just placed on Han's head, and then ride off with Han's ship. Han just beat him by distracting him then shooting him before he could move. Typically what a wild west "outer space' cowboy does.
The thing about the digital additions and upscaling perfectly explains why you would want to keep special effects as in camera and Practical as possible. CGI should be used sparingly and for enhancing what's already there, not for full shots, backgrounds and every non-human character in frame. This is, of course, assuming that you want your picture to look at great as it possibly can, so that it may be loved and appreciated by fans for several generations to come
Yes and no really. Imagine what all the superhero movies we've gotten in the last 20 years, would look like if they were done with the technology of the early 90's, Lord of the Rings movies even, Andy Serkis in a practical Gollum suite? Also A.I. upscaling tech is looking quite promising, one day we might actually get a 4K remaster of Babylon 5.
I was hoping they'd redo the CGI spaces scenes and not keep the now 24 year old renders which look dated even for a video game now. Maybe they could reuse the models from Rogue One or Solo. Look at how good global illumination makes the star destroyers in Rogue One look - there's so much bounce lighting it really reinforces just how bright the ships are and how harsh the sunlight is. And everything reflects everything, with variable levels of roughness and in accordance with Fresnel's law. Everything is either shiny or matte, or has transitions between the two states, and it looks amazing. But no, they kept those ugly Lambertian surfaces and fake ambient light which don't mesh in with the model shots at all. Even with CG models from Turbosquid or something, how much would that even cost already?
I keep hoping that will happen too, so easy to redo some of the wonkier CGI scenes for little money. Hell why not get the Mandolorian people to refilm some of it with actual models!
@@elijahblechman8633 I think the animation and often also the framing of the CG ships was a lot better than what the early, barely-experienced ILM managed to do photographically in 1976-77. I'd keep that almost intact if possible. It's the rendering and shading that I think really dates the current CG ones.
I don't see anything that Lucas has done since he started scribbling on these movies that has made any of them better. the CGI looks fake ( oh my God there's nothing that ages more poorly than bad CGI) the effects look half-assed and the edits he's done and the scenes he's insisted on shoving back in that were edited out because they were no good don't help the story and just make it look stupid. I was trying to watch Return of the Jedi and right when Vader reached up to pick up the emperor I was there for the first time in over 30 years I was experiencing the emotional high of the movie and then goddamn George Lucas had to overdub Darth Vader saying "nOOoo" just like he did in the end of Return of the Sith and it utterly sucked the emotional moment out of the scene and I turned it off immediately. I'm so sick and tired of George's OCD BS.
@@angie99656 well said! I share the exact same feelings. I can’t stand to watch the Special Editions. There are so many people that will stick up for him and say “well, he’s the creator, he gets to do what he wants and the final movie wasn’t his vision”, well then he shouldn’t have made the movies in the first place! He literally crapped on all of the hard work that the hundreds of people that worked on the films put in and he really diminished the special effects achievements that they made. At the very least, he should have allowed the non-Special Editions to get remastered and rereleased, but he won’t allow that. I have grown to have a disdain for George due to his attitude towards the originals and everyone involved.
If they were to release the theatrical cuts, here's my dream way of doing it: All 6 Lucas movies get their theatrical cuts rereleased in HD, and there will be a set for each film with all existing official cuts of it. Here's how I very much want it to go: A New Hope: Disc 1: Theatrical Cut Disc 2: 1997 Special Edition Disc 3: 2004 DVD Edition Disc 4: 2011 BluRay Edition Disc 5: 2019 Disney+ Edition The Empire Strikes Back: Disc 1: Theatrical Cut Disc 2: 1997 Special Edition Disc 3: 2004 DVD Edition Disc 4: Disney+ Edition Return Of The Jedi: Disc 1: Theatrical Cut Disc 2: 1997 Special Edition Disc 3: 2004 DVD Edition Disc 4: 2019 Disney+ Edition The Phantom Menace: Disc 1: Theatrical Cut Disc 2: 2001 DVD Edition Disc 3: 2011 BluRay Edition Disc 4: Disney+ Edition Disc 5: BluRay 3D Attack Of The Clones: Disc 1: 35mm Theatrical Cut Disc 2: Digital Theatrical Cut/2002 DVD Edition Disc 3: 2011 BluRay Edition Disc 4: BluRay 3D Revenge Of The Sith: Disc 1: 35mm Theatrical Cut Disc 2: Digital Theatrical Cut Disc 3: 2005 DVD Edition Disc 4: 2011 BluRay Cut Disc 5: BluRay 3D And then watch them fly off the shelves! Trust me, Disney is sitting on a Goldmine!
They are, but they will never release the original cuts through sheer and brute stubbornness, i have nit been into star wars in a while but last i checked the arguement was that the original copies of star wars are too damaged to which i always say bs, there are films that are way way older that have been restored and the despecialised and 4k77 kinda put a lid on that whole arguement, if this is what a group of fans can do, imagine what a company like disney can do, but they will never do it.
@@webz3589 I know I'm wishing something against someone, but I hope when Lucas dies, Disney releases the cuts. It was something Lucas asked Disney not to do, but they love money, so once he's out they can definitely (hopefully) do it. And not just the OT, but the Prequels as well deserve it. FOR THE FANS.
and THIS is why I downloaded 4K77 and 4K83 (currently waiting for 4K80 to be finished) so I can have the original theatrical release in 4K> Screw all these changes
I have the 4K blurays, which are essentially the same as the Disney+ version, and the single biggest advantage they have is the color grading. They look so much better than the original Blurays.
Completely agree! The blu rays look so oversaturated compared to the 4k UHD. I think the single best improvement is the bright desert scenes in Ep. 4. Better coloring for tattoine than any other release.
I'm guessing that all of these changes and tweaks are also present on the newest set of "Skywalker saga" boxsets then? And I'd like to see where this series goes. The prequels and sequels have also had some colour tweaking with their Disney+ releases
Weird question, but because of the helmet, do you have to remind yourself to move your hands and nod your head when talking? I feel like a lot of people wouldn’t be able to keep viewers attention when wearing a helmet because it takes away from reactions and expressions but it seems like you do it so naturally
I just bought the 2008 Original Trilogy Set at FYE last month in Used condition for $55. It includes the 2004 cut and the Unaltered version on DVD. I'll just stick with that version.
@@GracedSeeker763 People have different preferences on what they watch. I like the grainy Laserdisc DVD quality of those releases. It makes me feel like I'm watching those movies in the theater.
Okay, if they do that, then _mark my words_ : they will insert Palpatine's laugh or he will say something when either Kylo or Rey are doing something. This _will_ happen.
I'm stuck in the middle since I really love the Dolby Atmos surround mixes in the Disney releases but wish I could just watch them through the 4K77/83 project.
I have never been a fan of star wars, outside of always enjoying the original trilogy. The constant changes I hear about and see just makes my brain melt. Some I get to correct a flaw or something, but changing the sky over 3po multiple times is lunacy
When you say you can't really upgrade something from 2004 that was DVD quality, actually the 2004 transfer was made in 2K at the time, which is why they reused this transfer for the 2011 Blu-ray Releases.
Why so many changes? Will people not buy it unless there are changes? Has any other movie been remastered and changed this much? Is the movie better now?
It was the Western gunslinger stand off. Even deeper? George Lucas' love of Samurai stand off. Whatever, the original story line was that Greedo was going to kill Han, but Han drew first. That's how the story was told at the drive-in in '77! Nuff said,
The 4k77 is the unaltered version of A New Hope. It's film that were use in cinemas back in 1977 that fans have bought and sent to a place to be digitally scanned. After they got it scanned, they used DNR (digital noice reduction) and compressed it to a smaller size (around 50 gb) that are available for the public to download for free. You can find people on Reddit who have links to the movie. Some people have it on Google drive so you have the option to preview the movie and watch it from there. Because of the file size it's in really high quality. Btw the "4k" from the name comes from that the video is in 4k and "77" stands for the year 1977 when A New Hope came out.
@@MrHandsomeStudios Thanks for the info!! I did not know that. I will take the time to search for it and see it, and be able to download it. Thank you 👍💯🤟
To be honest, the non Blue tinted version looks so weird to me. I grew up on the 2004 release of those movies. The version that was blue tinted, but did not have the extra rock in front of R2D2
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Han Solo breaking his neck to avoid the shot from Greedo is still one of the funniest addition in newer releases.
Its disgusting.
And its just another example of George Lucas not understanding Star Wars or these characters.
#HanShotFirst! 😁
@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 Your comment makes absolutely NO SENSE. How can George Lucas “not understand” the very thing he himself created??? It’s so-called fans like you who make me 🤮🤮🤮
@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 are you making a joke? What does that even mean
@@benjagain399 Yaaaahhhh.... Except as a SW fan you know GL didnt actually write many of the characters and didnt write the stories or scripts.
He had an idea, an idea that was very, very, very, very different from the final product and then better writers came in and edited that idea to be something far better than what GL came up with. You can find what GL came up with, its called "The Star Wars", its an unedited, pure GL SW script, 4 part mini-series... its trash.
The series that started this channel is getting a reboot. Wonderful.
Best kind of content here
Just like the movies, yeah I am more of let it like it was made. It is a jewel of it's time.
A silver lining to the constant changes of a classic saga
I originally discovered your channel with the changes videos almost 10 years ago, before the sequels were even announced. Thank you for this decade of incredible videos!
The Disney plus version was based on the 1997 release so that’s why a lot of the 2004 and 2011 edits look a bit different because they need to be added back in
This almost sounds like Lucasfilm is as good at keeping track of their countless versions as I am at naming and archiving my word documents. Seriously though, that‘s very interesting. Do you know the reason behind this?
@@ft4709 because the 2004 and 2011 scans where not capable of going higher then 1080p and it had to be redone for the now cancelled 3D release because of the fact the only film prints where the 1997 the 2004 and 2011 where digital only
Thats why i forget about these versions and i have 4K77 and 4K83 on my flashdrive
@@legocat0306 I use D+77 D+80 and D+83
@@samuel-wankenobi This is somewhat correct, except that the 1997 version was a photochemical restoration of the original negative with the CG stuff cut in and a few shots recomposited. It wasn't done entirely digitally until 2004.
The 2004 DVD is basically the 1997 version of the negative with additional digital cleanup from Lowry Digital and tinkering from ILM. If memory serves, that was scanned at 1080p, because hi-def wasn't a thing yet.
The 2011 first edition Blu Ray was not a new scan. It was basically the 2004 scan with a few new changes added, missing lightsaber cores added in and a few sloppy mistakes from the DVD version corrected, including some color timing changes.
Finally after the Blu-ray came out but before Lucas sold out to Disney, they did the 4K restoration through Reliance Mediaworks. That was a new scan of the negative, with all the digital stuff re-rendered to work in 4K. This is the version that's on Disney+, 4K UHD disc, and the remastered standard blu rays that are included with the UHD versions.
RELEASE THE SNYDERCUT! I mean the AYERCUT! I mean the LUCASCUT! Wait, no, the other Lucascut - the original Lucas.... You know what, forget it. I'mma read a book or something.
The Hirsch Cut. Paul Hirsch saved Star Wars in the editing room and won an Oscar for it.
@@rando_calrissian Márcia Lucas did it.
Theatrical cut...
@@zardinho and it got the ok from George. He was there all the time.
@@Antidoxy Nha fam, let them believe they put changes without the director noticing or choosing which ones to put
I legit never noticed the Ghost of Luke in that doorway until you mentioned it today.
That's quite insane given how many times i've rewatched the Skywalker saga after the Blu-ray release came.
I never noticed that either. It's such a small detail tucked away in a single frame.
I have to wait two days? Damn, Greedo really giving me blue balls.
Jack Evans in the wild, huh?
Daring today aren’t we
Now that I have the despecialized editions I don't care if they ever release an official original unaltered trilogy. Harmey and his team made something George told us was impossible.
...Impossible and didn't need to be made
@@GracedSeeker763 mad
Lol 80% of that version is special edition footage, big deal, compared to restoring an original camera negative that's easy. Team 4k did a clean up of the gout DVD in two hours, that's not really that time consuming
As someone who grew up on the 2011 version, I thought I would be attached to that version, since it's my childhood memory. But having finally seen the Harmy version, I actually love the coloring. Human skin tone looks much more natural. That said, while it's nice to see the original effects and movie unaltered, there were a couple small mistakes like the lightsaber being a prop/missing the special effects. There were also certain Special Edition changes that have become more iconic, such as the ring shockwave when the planets/Death Star blow up. Feels weird not having it. I also like how the SE version of Mos Eisley gives us extended shots, makes the city feel bigger, more alive and full with aliens, rather than just human extras walking around. The finale trench run space battle I can go either way. I like seeing the original Yavin planet and original fighter effects, but there were a couple shots that felt kinda dated where I think the SE re-done effects did the dogfighting scene better.
If I could have DeHarmy's coloring with some of the SE changes, that would be my ideal Star Wars. I like both the official version and the unofficial fan one.
the original unaltered trilogy will always be my favorite version. can't wait for 4k80 to be finished!
Same. The Special Editions are really bad. So much so that I would prefer to not watch Star Wars than watch those.
Its here man! Just downloaded it ☺️. Enjoy
When is the original unaltered versions going to release?
With the Han/Greedo sequence, in the Special Editions, particularly 2011 one, firing both together gives it a High Noon Duel kind of a vibe. Both men fire a shot simultaneously, only one remains standing (or sitting, as it were). But in the original 1977 and Harmy's DeSpecialized, it feels like it's taking inspiration from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." It reminded me very much of the famous scene in the bathtub where he says, "If you're gonna shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
Disney: "Make it lame and grey!"
Hopefully he mentions that the Disney+ version was made by Lucas himself in 2012 as part of the 3D re-releases.
I wonder if someone asked George why does he keep changing that Greedo scene.
George finally wised up a little about tinkering with the movie. Unlike David Cronenberg who tints all his movies retroactively.
@@Clay3613 What makes you say that? Lucas basically tinkered with all of the Movies until he literally sold the rights and couldn’t do it anymore.
@@robinanwaldt He restored the colors to a more natural look. Cronenberg has been doing the opposite lately with his movies and every US release has major alterations to the color-timing.
@@robinanwaldt All of the movies? Did he ever change anything in the Prequels?
2:45 Can’t wait for the Film Theory, ‘Was Luke Skywalker always a force ghost?’ Amazing.
Very fun, definitely looking forward to the next part(s) of this series!
I recently found the dvd box set that includes the theatrical versions of the original trilogy for $2 at a thrift store. It took me years to find them, but I now have an official release of the original versions that isn’t on vhs.
Did you watch it yet?
@@Chapmike I watched A New Hope, but not the others yet
@@geo-fry6372 Not too disappointed by the awful quality?
@@Chapmike it’s better than vhs
They're not too bad on a 4k tv
This has a vibe of old greedo videos and I love it so much
Don't worry. Maclunkey was redeemed by Bib Fortuna in Mandalorian.
"Leecha! Maclunkey!"
Is this going to be looking through the whole OT as a Series or just this one?
Looks like AHN is the inspiration, if you respond well, he may do other movies, but only if you respond well!
description says ANH only, but the title says part one so id say he plans to do more
A fly. We've had a fly for 42 years, something nobody even cared about, but all of the sudden, it matters. It must have been something that was caught during the early 3D conversion stages of things because it means someone would have had to make sure that fly didn't screw with the illusion, so instead they edited it out. A fly! George had meddled with the movies so much that he resorted to adding new dialog and removing flies from shots because nothing could ever be perfect enough. It was perfect to begin with man, as a founder of a film preservation organization, you would think George would have followed his own beliefs on film preservation. It's a fly, I shouldn't even be getting this worked up about it, but there's just something about the fact that this movie has been meddled with so many times, and not once before then was this fly an issue. The best thing about this is that Raiders of the Lost Arc has a very famous fly, it lands on Paul Freeman's lip and goes into his mouth, not one beat does he stop delivering his line, it's like he doesn't even notice, and instead of going with a different take of the line or going for a reshoot, or even editing it out since it's never once acknowledged by anyone in the scene in digital versions of the movie, that was the take that was kept and used and has stayed. This fly in the Lars Homestead is so remote and unremarkable that it stayed in the movie for 42 years, or I guess in reality it would be about 35 years at the latest, and it's suddenly an issue. Just, why? We've kept a Stormtrooper bonking his head and even giving him dialog in edits later instead of trying to reedit that from happening in the first place, but the fly, it's gone too far, it's overstayed its welcome. HO. LY. CRAP. 🤣
At least the original colors are back. Kind of a testament to how George was the one who "destroyed" SW with his perfectionism and unchallenged creative decisions.
I've never noticed the fly before, but it's "imperfections" like a fly buzzing around that give movies a real "lived in" atmosphere. It's a farm in the desert. it shouldn't be pretty.
Well said, 44 years later and this is the first time i've ever known about that fly.....what I do know about is all the god damn tinkering they have done. When I watched the 4K77 version I thought I was watching the film again for the first time - it was a totally refreshing experience!
The fly probably could have done a better job with the special editions than George Lucas, and it probably would have preferred landing on shit to selling out the franchise to Disney.
@@kipo1456 The fly would've made better prequels too.
Man those comparisons reminds me of how Marcelo Zuniga did comparisons of what changes were made to Star Wars movies
I think I read that they used the 1997 prints as the basis for the 4K remaster and many post-1997 changes had to be redone. Hence the small differences.
There were also some changes on the 90s Star Wars Trilogy tapes.
To me, the 2004 versions of the OT should have been the FINAL cut. It was before the "NOOO" the "Maclunkey" and all the hyper fixations, and it became clear these changes were not for continuity or visual enhancement, but George's own desire to alter the film. Which we may never understand truly why. The 2004 cuts were questionable, but tolerable to an extent. Imo, the Maclunkey was most likely a joke. It was George's last laugh, he intended to show it in 3D, cause a stir over the drama for its controversy and then chuckle to himself. A PR stunt.
Except that from a visual standpoint, the 2004 versions had some pretty egregious quality control issues. Missing lightsaber cores, crushed black levels, flipped audio on the surround channels in sections. They were a mess and most of those issues weren't corrected until at least 2011 - but at that time, George fixed a few things but broke others.
Content wise the 2004 version of Jedi is the latest version that I actually tolerate. In fact when I first watched Jedi Rocks when I was around 5 years old I cringed even then. Thankfully the version that I had as a kid was the 2006 trilogy with the theatrical cuts from the Laser disc set and since our TV was smaller I didn’t know about those being pillar boxed until we got a bigger tv, so for a long time those original theatrical ones were the one I watched over and over (thankfully none of them are scratched) So I’m in a unique position as someone from Gen z who grew up on the originals because I didn’t like Jedi Rocks right off the bat and was actively avoiding it.
"Which we may never understand truly why." -- money
When the 2004 versions came out, it was said these would be the "archival" versions of the films. Then Lucas released the 2011 blu-ray with "deleted footage", that he had all along, which tells me it's all been a cash grab since 1997.
Because it’s his movie lol 😂
@@MrAjking808 He directed it. But he didn't edit it alone. He also wasn't responsible for the practical effects work at ILM, or the work from Gil Taylor on the Cinematography. Revisions to the OT ultimately harmed the vision that the crew worked on, in my eyes. One man does not make a movie. It's a group effort.
Fans litterally saved A New Hope, I just wished it was official and available for everyone to watch.
This was quite the hellogreedo experience! Sure the numbers will pick back up soon 🤘💪
An original trilogy release with the ability to switch between the different versions literally minute by minute would make disney all the money back that they’ve lost in the last 5 years.
It’s a shame they cancelled the 3D release and there isn’t any 3D content on Disney+. I’ve had a 3D TV for years now and it’s so stunning and immersive.
I think they should have it.
Does Netflix have 3d content?
Or any of the other streaming providers
@@kyle_mk17nope, buy 3D blurays.
I remember seeing Episode 1 on theaters. Still got the Darth maul 3D glasses.
The 4K physical discs also have the new changes and color corrections
MANAGED TO GET A COPY OF ALL 3 RECENTLY AND I WILL NEVER AGAIN WATCH ANY OTHER VERSION I HAVE. THE PUBLIC GETS WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS. A MASSIVE THANK YOU TO ALL WHO CREATED 4K77 4K80 4K83 ❤
My question exactly as well. DISNEY. OWNS. FOX. What is stopping them from obtaining the original prints of these films? Why would they NOT try to make more money? Fans will eat it all up!
That “bad motivator” play on the Bad Brains album is awesome dude. Made my day. 🤘🏽
My loyalty is to the Blu-ray version !
Cheers
I like the 2004, 2011/2019 and of course Theatrical versions.
1997 is pretty much like 2004 but without the pinkish blue colour tint, a new Hope is worse cause of the shitty Cg Jabba.
Feels nice to have more standard content from you again
One change i hate is the scene where Vader yells "NOOO!" while Palpatine is shocking Luke, and they literally reused that audio from Revenge the of sith. in the original it was just emotion
Man I love Star Wars, I love these kind of comparison videos. Just recently re-bought the 2011 bluray collection because it is my favourite box set and I love the Anakin and Luke artwork on the front cover.
I want to properly get into harmy’s version as well too. I know exactly what you mean about official preservation. I don’t think anyone would care about the changes of the special editions if the original was preserved well. I’m so glad we got Harmy’s version, I watched A New Hope and it was refreshing to see Han and Greedo’s scene unaltered. Anyway, love you all 🎉.
Harmy's version surprised me. I too love the 2011 edition, and that was "my" version I saw first as a kid, but having finally seen the Despecialized, I was impressed by how good it is. It was nice to see the original effects and shots, for historical sake, and the coloring was much improved with natural skin tones for people rather than reddish faces. I did find myself missing a couple of the SE changes though.
4k bluray version instead of D+ version ;)
#HanShotOnly
Despite thinking it would've made Han look like a cold-blooded killer, the scene should have stayed the way it was, having Han shooting Greedo from beneath the table while they were talking. It was clearly indicated by Greedo that he had every intention to shoot Han, collect the bounty that was just placed on Han's head, and then ride off with Han's ship. Han just beat him by distracting him then shooting him before he could move. Typically what a wild west "outer space' cowboy does.
I love how classic hellogreedo this video feels
The thing about the digital additions and upscaling perfectly explains why you would want to keep special effects as in camera and Practical as possible. CGI should be used sparingly and for enhancing what's already there, not for full shots, backgrounds and every non-human character in frame.
This is, of course, assuming that you want your picture to look at great as it possibly can, so that it may be loved and appreciated by fans for several generations to come
Yes and no really. Imagine what all the superhero movies we've gotten in the last 20 years, would look like if they were done with the technology of the early 90's, Lord of the Rings movies even, Andy Serkis in a practical Gollum suite? Also A.I. upscaling tech is looking quite promising, one day we might actually get a 4K remaster of Babylon 5.
I was hoping they'd redo the CGI spaces scenes and not keep the now 24 year old renders which look dated even for a video game now. Maybe they could reuse the models from Rogue One or Solo. Look at how good global illumination makes the star destroyers in Rogue One look - there's so much bounce lighting it really reinforces just how bright the ships are and how harsh the sunlight is. And everything reflects everything, with variable levels of roughness and in accordance with Fresnel's law. Everything is either shiny or matte, or has transitions between the two states, and it looks amazing. But no, they kept those ugly Lambertian surfaces and fake ambient light which don't mesh in with the model shots at all. Even with CG models from Turbosquid or something, how much would that even cost already?
I keep hoping that will happen too, so easy to redo some of the wonkier CGI scenes for little money. Hell why not get the Mandolorian people to refilm some of it with actual models!
@@Clay3613 or just restore the original negative
@@brown22sugar25 lots of the space shots in the Battle of Yavin pre-1997 were a bit meh
Personally, i find the cgi spaceships really charming. but that's just me.
@@elijahblechman8633 I think the animation and often also the framing of the CG ships was a lot better than what the early, barely-experienced ILM managed to do photographically in 1976-77. I'd keep that almost intact if possible. It's the rendering and shading that I think really dates the current CG ones.
Oh classic content! Nice, nice. I've been here for Special Edition changes!
I love the bits in this video. Very wacky and funny!
I love these comparison videos of all the Star Wars editions. it shows how far we've come for better or for worse
Mostly for worse!
I don't see anything that Lucas has done since he started scribbling on these movies that has made any of them better. the CGI looks fake ( oh my God there's nothing that ages more poorly than bad CGI) the effects look half-assed and the edits he's done and the scenes he's insisted on shoving back in that were edited out because they were no good don't help the story and just make it look stupid. I was trying to watch Return of the Jedi and right when Vader reached up to pick up the emperor I was there for the first time in over 30 years I was experiencing the emotional high of the movie and then goddamn George Lucas had to overdub Darth Vader saying "nOOoo" just like he did in the end of Return of the Sith and it utterly sucked the emotional moment out of the scene and I turned it off immediately. I'm so sick and tired of George's OCD BS.
@@angie99656 well said! I share the exact same feelings. I can’t stand to watch the Special Editions. There are so many people that will stick up for him and say “well, he’s the creator, he gets to do what he wants and the final movie wasn’t his vision”, well then he shouldn’t have made the movies in the first place! He literally crapped on all of the hard work that the hundreds of people that worked on the films put in and he really diminished the special effects achievements that they made. At the very least, he should have allowed the non-Special Editions to get remastered and rereleased, but he won’t allow that. I have grown to have a disdain for George due to his attitude towards the originals and everyone involved.
If they were to release the theatrical cuts, here's my dream way of doing it: All 6 Lucas movies get their theatrical cuts rereleased in HD, and there will be a set for each film with all existing official cuts of it.
Here's how I very much want it to go:
A New Hope:
Disc 1: Theatrical Cut
Disc 2: 1997 Special Edition
Disc 3: 2004 DVD Edition
Disc 4: 2011 BluRay Edition
Disc 5: 2019 Disney+ Edition
The Empire Strikes Back:
Disc 1: Theatrical Cut
Disc 2: 1997 Special Edition
Disc 3: 2004 DVD Edition
Disc 4: Disney+ Edition
Return Of The Jedi:
Disc 1: Theatrical Cut
Disc 2: 1997 Special Edition
Disc 3: 2004 DVD Edition
Disc 4: 2019 Disney+ Edition
The Phantom Menace:
Disc 1: Theatrical Cut
Disc 2: 2001 DVD Edition
Disc 3: 2011 BluRay Edition
Disc 4: Disney+ Edition
Disc 5: BluRay 3D
Attack Of The Clones:
Disc 1: 35mm Theatrical Cut
Disc 2: Digital Theatrical Cut/2002 DVD Edition
Disc 3: 2011 BluRay Edition
Disc 4: BluRay 3D
Revenge Of The Sith:
Disc 1: 35mm Theatrical Cut
Disc 2: Digital Theatrical Cut
Disc 3: 2005 DVD Edition
Disc 4: 2011 BluRay Cut
Disc 5: BluRay 3D
And then watch them fly off the shelves! Trust me, Disney is sitting on a Goldmine!
They are, but they will never release the original cuts through sheer and brute stubbornness, i have nit been into star wars in a while but last i checked the arguement was that the original copies of star wars are too damaged to which i always say bs, there are films that are way way older that have been restored and the despecialised and 4k77 kinda put a lid on that whole arguement, if this is what a group of fans can do, imagine what a company like disney can do, but they will never do it.
@@webz3589 I know I'm wishing something against someone, but I hope when Lucas dies, Disney releases the cuts. It was something Lucas asked Disney not to do, but they love money, so once he's out they can definitely (hopefully) do it. And not just the OT, but the Prequels as well deserve it. FOR THE FANS.
What happened with the audio at 4:01
Which is “better”, 774K or Harmy? And which is easier to find/download?
and THIS is why I downloaded 4K77 and 4K83 (currently waiting for 4K80 to be finished) so I can have the original theatrical release in 4K> Screw all these changes
Nice! I remember subbing to you because of these videos back in the day. And I stayed for your pleasant personality and content.
I have the 4K blurays, which are essentially the same as the Disney+ version, and the single biggest advantage they have is the color grading. They look so much better than the original Blurays.
Completely agree! The blu rays look so oversaturated compared to the 4k UHD. I think the single best improvement is the bright desert scenes in Ep. 4. Better coloring for tattoine than any other release.
I'm guessing that all of these changes and tweaks are also present on the newest set of "Skywalker saga" boxsets then?
And I'd like to see where this series goes. The prequels and sequels have also had some colour tweaking with their Disney+ releases
Yup, this version is what's included on all current releases. Even the most recent Blu-Ray releases use the 2019 masters instead of the 2011 ones.
Love the tee-shirt, nice play on Bad Brains.
Poor Greedo thought it was his lucky day but alas Han had the last laugh lol
It’s like I’m 12 again watching this channel. Classic hellogreedo
Weird question, but because of the helmet, do you have to remind yourself to move your hands and nod your head when talking? I feel like a lot of people wouldn’t be able to keep viewers attention when wearing a helmet because it takes away from reactions and expressions but it seems like you do it so naturally
4:40- Was that a sample of "The C-Sec Lobby" music from the first Mass Effect?
I'm a big star wars fan, but i've only watched A New Hope a hand full of times. AND THAT FLY HAS ANNOYED ME EVERY TIME!!!!!
5:15 The 2004 DVD then 2011 Blu-ray was from a 2K Lowry Digital remaster to be a little more specific
Loads of memes and trolling in this one🤣 great video
I just bought the 2008 Original Trilogy Set at FYE last month in Used condition for $55. It includes the 2004 cut and the Unaltered version on DVD. I'll just stick with that version.
2006 actually 😆 I have it too.
@@al112v4 Awesome!
4K77 is available if you look!
Why? They updated it for a reason
@@GracedSeeker763 People have different preferences on what they watch. I like the grainy Laserdisc DVD quality of those releases. It makes me feel like I'm watching those movies in the theater.
Can’t wait for the sequel trilogy special edition, that’s gonna be a banger
They will probably cut Obi-Wans lines in TFA when Rey touches the lightsaber and “fix“ kylo‘s scar (because rian changed it)
@@user-fu7zf4ck9z Why ? They referenced that line in TROS when Obi-Wan says to her: "These are your final steps, Rey. Rise and take them."
Okay, if they do that, then _mark my words_ : they will insert Palpatine's laugh or he will say something when either Kylo or Rey are doing something. This _will_ happen.
@@user-fu7zf4ck9z lmao I hope they add a jabba scene too
@@NiiRubra Considering how allergic the fandom is to changes, I highly doubt it will ever happen.
Need to include the far superior adywan fan edit ;)
Great to see you again, Greedo!
it’s literally in the name blu ray, there will be a blue tint
Why would that have anything to do with the format name?
I'm stuck in the middle since I really love the Dolby Atmos surround mixes in the Disney releases but wish I could just watch them through the 4K77/83 project.
Back to roots I see. Some things never change
Well except the cuts of the original trilogy
By Blu-Ray are you referring to the 2011 Blu ray Release, or the 2020 4K Blu-Ray?
I'm pretty sure it's the 2011 bluray. I'm also pretty sure the 2020 bluray is the same as Disney+
@@WhiteWolf496 It is the same 35mm scan, but the 4K Blu-Ray lacks Dolby Vision which Disney+ has.
@@xacerpg3998 2020 blu-ray/dvd release also features ‘maclunkey’. Definitely same edit/version/scan, barring dolby vision.
That fly should appear in Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga. Would be the perfect gag.
I have never been a fan of star wars, outside of always enjoying the original trilogy. The constant changes I hear about and see just makes my brain melt. Some I get to correct a flaw or something, but changing the sky over 3po multiple times is lunacy
When you say you can't really upgrade something from 2004 that was DVD quality, actually the 2004 transfer was made in 2K at the time, which is why they reused this transfer for the 2011 Blu-ray Releases.
Why so many changes? Will people not buy it unless there are changes? Has any other movie been remastered and changed this much? Is the movie better now?
Hey Greedo! What Superman figure do you have there in the background? I'm currently looking for one. Thanks for the help man!
Harmy’s STAR WARS DE: 2.7 Remastered is that the latest version? where can i find it
Thank you! You've made a really tough job!
Wake up babe, new HelloGreedo just dropped
As I’m watching this a new hope is on the tv
How does one get ahold of this 4K77 version?
The Series that started it all, it will be interesting to see how you aproach this compared to 10 Years Ago
This is gonna do numbers glad he's finally making it
We the need the complete saga of *_Star Wars Mullet Edition_* in 8K UHD Blu-ray.
Besides the special editions how do you find copies of the others you mentioned please help
Where can i get the 4K77? I did not know about that existance D:
Mike Verta is thankfully doing what George & Disney couldn't be bothered to...
Thank the maker x
Where can I find that shirt??????
The lightsaber during the training scene on the Millennium Falcon is noticeably bluer again, thankfully
It was the Western gunslinger stand off. Even deeper? George Lucas' love of Samurai stand off. Whatever, the original story line was that Greedo was going to kill Han, but Han drew first. That's how the story was told at the drive-in in '77! Nuff said,
we need a backstory and a standalone movie about that fly !
I don't know if I'll ever get to see the original version of Star Wars, without any of the changes that have been made to it over the last 20 years.
Why not? It isn't that hard of a task to accomplish if you're really wanting to.
The 4k77 is the unaltered version of A New Hope. It's film that were use in cinemas back in 1977 that fans have bought and sent to a place to be digitally scanned. After they got it scanned, they used DNR (digital noice reduction) and compressed it to a smaller size (around 50 gb) that are available for the public to download for free. You can find people on Reddit who have links to the movie. Some people have it on Google drive so you have the option to preview the movie and watch it from there. Because of the file size it's in really high quality.
Btw the "4k" from the name comes from that the video is in 4k and "77" stands for the year 1977 when A New Hope came out.
@@MrHandsomeStudios Thanks for the info!! I did not know that. I will take the time to search for it and see it, and be able to download it. Thank you 👍💯🤟
@@jaf2378 Np bro :) 👍
@@MrHandsomeStudios It's film, not tape. Massive difference.
How did you get 4k77 I tried for ages but it’s really difficult
The trash compactor grate always annoyed me. I actually like that change.
@@cactusjackNV I never said I didn’t want them to be available. That’s a pretty big assumption.
I want every version to be easily accessible
How do you find the 4k77 version?
where can I watch the 4k77 version? or the despecialized ?
Imagine being the fly that was erased. You’d be pissed!!
How do you get these other fan made versions like 4k77?
How the hell did he embody Filthy Frank and H3 perfectly in the span of 30 seconds of rage towards the Star Wars Hotel/Scam.
Is there a difference between Disney+ and say Vudu uhd digital?
Thanks for posting this
How do I watch the 4k77
I've surprised they haven't added reflection to the Death Star control room floor yet, to match Rogue One.
To be honest, the non Blue tinted version looks so weird to me. I grew up on the 2004 release of those movies. The version that was blue tinted, but did not have the extra rock in front of R2D2
All versions: Yes indeed--why not? Keep Atmos remixes, with an Atmos upmix of the '77 version though--the Atmos sounds awesome.