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I find it funny that you like to stay in the word kinda a lot; you said this is kind of …1:53 interesting, 2:54 cool it’s kind of neat. I think it either is or it isn’t. Just saying… great review.
Robo man programed. Expensive vehicle. But no one live will speak. Why after building something like that with huge price tag. They fired all salesmen.
I'm not really liking it. A single plug in burner in a drawer? The inside back looks unfinished. You'll have to resheet the bed every night. It seems to emanate a sense of grudge that people want to occupy it.
Panoramic RV is almost the same layout and similar high end build quality, but with an integrated propane cooktop and larger fridge, 35 gal fresh water, lithium batteries (220 standard/440 optional Ah), ability to make a second bed from the front lounge seats/table, and optional new Truma a/c. No poptop though. Scott if you ever manage to see one in person you will be very impressed!
I have not heard of Panoramic RV. It looks the only dealers are in Canada? I wonder if they are asking over $200K USD like everybody else. Prices are still ridiculous, imo. Van looks pretty nice, though.
@@gosmall.livelarge I just picked up my Panoramic a few weeks ago. It is the first Panoramic to be built on the US 2022 Ram ProMaster! The 2022 model has a lot more infotainment and safety features!Any chance we could meet sometime and you could rate it using your rating system? I live in SE Michigan.
I see your next van, once they put the Volta in! Nice tour! I'm still a fan of my KL NPE. When we started looking at Travatos, I thought the bathroom in the back was weird, but I love it now. I like the open feel of it with the windows, and it's so easy to open up the back doors and do a thorough cleaning. I don't miss having a "real" sink in the bathroom. The fold-down sink works fine and makes the bathroom feel more spacious.
We have a 2018 Travato. For a class B it's laid out nicely. The only change I would have liked to be seen was Winnebago's choice of using the Pro-Master 3500. I think it would have been a better choice using the Mercedes with a diesel. For what a customer pays for these RV's, I'm not very impressed with the fit/finish of the Pro-Master.
Scott: I will be watching closely for a VOLTA option (no generator!) and, hopefully, the Euro-inspired headlights in place of the uglier front face. I would also appreciate either a dry-flush Laveo toilet or a cassette (no black tank!). I'm leaning toward Embassy (on the ProMaster platform), but like the seats and bed in the Rangeline better.
This is really close to MY preferred floor plan... would love Volta, more battery capacity, bigger inverter, dry flush toilet ( would settle for cassette), 4wd or Awd, Great walk thru Scott. We will have to check it out on Sunday in Hershey.
Yes, please take a look on Sunday. If you can attend on Saturday we are doing a GSLL Channel Roundup (meet-n-greet) at the General RV Winnebago Travato display. Would be aweseom to meet you in person
Scott, have you look into "Panoramic RV" from Canada? It has the similar layout with compatible price with better quality build. You should definitely check out the site and pay a visit. Highly recommend!
Excellent job showing Scott!! Wish it had the Volta & 4wd. If you get the time could you show truck campers for half-ton trucks, example Lance model 650? Thanks & keep up the great work!!
Finally! something other than a Mercedes. Like almost everything about it. I would have liked to see the same layout with a lower bed that can also be used as a table. Love the bathroom.
I believe comes with 270 amp lithium battery and 2000 w inverter. Along with generator. They do now have new E1 system on other vans which is new. Hopefully they will offer as option on this rangeline. That would make this already awesome van even better!
Nicely done. A lithium system with a 12v AC that would run from the batteries would be nice. Awning windows on the sliding door would be nice too. An exhaust vent in the bathroom would be appreciated. Otherwise, outstanding.
Yay leisure travel vans. Rear bed combo and extra storage. Wonder what quality is better for the same price. Leisure t. Airstream or winnebago. Insulation to. Please reply.
This is a great van! The only thing I would change is I wouldn't want the permanent table & the extra 2 seats. I'd rather have a recliner & a couple of laguna tables!!! That's my dream plus a big tv!! Thanks for sharing
Great layout, very well equipped. Great to have lithium standard. They have really been paying attention to the market and addressing some of the shortcomings in the existing choices. No deal breakers in my opinion. And if I'm reading correctly, no LP.
The echo is a very different type of RV. This is more like a three. Five season rig. Airstream rep walks you through everything.NEW B VAN COMPLETE WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE by Airstream 2022 Hershey RV Show ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
As myself being older, I would not like the ladder ... other than that, Airstream's floor design is truly inviting 🎉❤ love the bath door. 😊 thank you for sharing. Safe travels
Scott, thanks for the video. Have you check "Panoramic RV" from Canada? It is very similar to this floor plan and price point but much better detail and customizations. You would love it at a first sight. Highly recommend!😀
Nice Van. I would prefer they made the back more of a lounge that converts to a bed which would make it usable all day. Build quality appears good but time will tell. Thanks for posting
I purchased a new Airstream Rangeliner. It appears that the window in the sliding door was not installed properly. Neither Airstream or Ram consider it their problem to fix. Also, I have discovered that the generator is leaking gas. Apparently that will be up to Cummings to fix. All of this is very disapointing
Not sure, Jason. Been awhile since i did that video. Did you see this cool video I made for you to Discover Old Florida, Micanopy, ua-cam.com/video/nVcYbPEiMCY/v-deo.html
C'mon Airstream! The people want lithium power! I'm shopping for my first RV and this would be near the top of my list if it had a Volta or Lithionics system.
Seems that Airstream hit a sweet spot with this combination of some Lithium and a quiet generator. Just enough battery to power everything but the A/C. So no more starting the generator to microwave, cook dinner or make coffee. Keeps the price down as you will see this Airstream is at a good price point. Now the trouble with Airstream and the dealers is I suspect they are not discounting the prices. Hopefully Winnebago will wake from their slumber now and work towards a better quality build on the Travato. I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
It's basically a Travato G. I just learned about this at the Airstream factory tour and they're trying to come in at a lower price point than their existing Bs. I don't like that they have the old style problematic screen door. And like you said they don't offer a Volta system. Again this is their entry level van. I'm impressed by Airstream in general but after seeing this I'll definitely stick with my 2022 Travato.
Us too! Love our Travato KL 2022! Next month we will have owned it for a year and never plugged it in because of the Lithium. Don't feel like I'm in a closet when using the bathroom because of the windows. We use it all the time, especially for daytrips to the beach!
Seems that Airstream hit a sweet spot with this combination of some Lithium and a quiet generator. Just enough battery to power everything but the A/C. So no more starting the generator to microwave, cook dinner or make coffee. Keeps the price down as you will see this Airstream is at a good price point. Now the trouble with Airstream and the dealers is I suspect they are not discounting the prices. Hopefully Winnebago will wake from their slumber now and work towards a better quality build on the Travato. I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
I watched the manufacturer walk-through also and noted a couple of things from your video and theirs. The openable windows seem quite small, plus there’s not one in the galley area. It’s unclear how the small square windows open. Also,I didn’t see a max air fan anywhere in the ceiling. That and the small windows would make a hot, stuffy van. I do like the programmable generator where you can auto start the generator and ac based on temp. I like that it’s a gas fueled furnace with no LP onboard. It sounds like the insulation is a vast improvement over most class B’s. Even the vendor video fails to demo the process for putting the bed up and down. As Murphy beds go, the Travato 59G is still the best, in my opinion, because the bed can stay made as the one piece mattress just folds. This bed, and others, split apart into multiple cushions, which would likely decrease comfort with gaps and make keeping the bed made up with regular bedding difficult. There are some nice things but it still doesn’t beat your rig.
Watched the airstream video they put out, thought I didn’t like the bed, I now know I hate it. Everything else, the galley, front eating area/table, and bathroom is well done, except for as mention no natural light in the bathroom. No TV, that’s an issue for me. I wish the Embassy had a better bathroom.
It’s nice but seems cramped as compared to other brands brands. Bathroom is ok but I didn’t see venting for shower and toilet smells. The turn screw at the water access seemed plastic and flimsy. Kind of like it could break easily or many even strip out over time. Loved the dog trays but seemed a tad high for small breeds. I liked the portable cook top. Airstream is a well named brand. I kind of expect a little more from their design. These are just my personal opinion. Very nice walkthrough.
Fantastic review! Question, did you say that the table is permanently inserted? If so, I don’t see how car seats could even begin to fit on that passenger bench, let alone little legs. Thanks for your feedback!
That was my first thought - a solis with the pop top plus the microwave, pre wired for TV, nicer cabinets, nicer interior materials overall - I love it
I'm a BIG fan of the Thule (manual) awning on the Airstream Rangeline. I would never buy a motorized awning based upon many reports of failures and problems that occur with them.
Yes, solar is standard as far as I know. You’ll want to see the walk-through with the airstream rep on this video. NEW B VAN COMPLETE WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE by Airstream 2022 Hershey RV Show ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
Looks really nice! can't wait to check out all the vans at the show! Glad to see Airstream add to their motorized lineup - now they just need to add something on the Transit ;-)
Almost perfect, but none are. As a family of 3 these Promasters with poptops would work great. Not sure how I feel about casset toilets vs. black tanks since I've never used either. As for solar/batteries; as long as you can plug more panels in and add a batter or two.
I wonder how much leg room can be had when the driver's seat is all the way back. I would like to buy a Travato KL, but the kitchen counter prevents the driver's seat from moving back far enough for me. It looks like there is a bit of space between the fixed table and driver's seat on this van--- I wonder if that allows the seat to go back all the way?
If they do not offer a three-way fridge it's not for me. ! I don't want a 25000$+ lithium package for a 5 ? days fridge operation. (20lbs of propane will suffice for 15 days ) P.S. no ventilation in the bathroom ?
@@gosmall.livelarge Totally, I’m really curious. I know with other class b vehicles like this that there’s a storage space on the outside, and I can’t imagine Airstream to say we just need to put that hose on the inside.
The Bed design 'looks' great, but is it comfortable? For 130K you should get a larger frig. I presume there is a market that is willing to pay for all those bells and whistles, IDK.
One of my favorite Bs on the market. Been researching the Airstream, Leisure, and Pleasureway, in depth. My biggest concern with the Airstream is the chassis. Or for that matter all of the class B chassis platforms that are available in North America. They are the "achilles hea l" of these units. To spend up to 200k on a n RV with a weak chassis and drive train is asking for trouble and expensive maintenance costs as they age. Just my opinion as someone who spent their career managing fleets.
Great walkthrough, Scott! I like how they did the bed in the back, the outside has a clean profile, and the galley is nice, but that bathroom sink and all the seams look like lackluster manufacturing and design in the bathroom, especially from a company like Airstream. And as others have mentioned, no Volta. Overall, it's a pass. So much happier with the 2021 Travato GL NPFE!
I really like what Airstream has created with Rangeline, but DO NOT WANT A BLACK TANK OR A GENERATOR. Do you know what would be involved to replace the toilet with a Laveo Dry-Flush and re-purpose the blank tank as a secondary gray tank? Also, since a VOLTA system is unknown, is there enough room in the box that holds the generator to accept a VOLVA or LITHIONICS custom install? I will ask these questions to an Airstrram dealer, but am interested in your take on them.
You are so nice and awesome.. i love your channel.. I watch your zion slumber 2 videos iam 100% that is the best floor plan for me .. and again thank you so much for reading and replying to my comment 🥰❤️
why they keep using 3/4 plyboard? it consume a lot of space. so many compartments, its hard to do general cleaning. and the price and the total vehicle weight balloon with so many customize storage. the windows are gone.
There is a pop top option for about $11,000. Check out the walk-through video with the airstream rep. NEW B VAN COMPLETE WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE by Airstream 2022 Hershey RV Show ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
The brush on the screen will deter rats. This is why garage doors have a brush at the bottom. Rats want to chew. They don't know what to do with the brush.
Class B, B+ and even 25 ft Class C's have minimal to no outside storage. Where do I put my folding Ebike (when I don't want it on an outside hitch?) Griddle/Grill? outdoor gear? In other words, where is my Garage? It has been answered with Winnebago EKKO (B+) and 2023 Tiffin Wayfarer LW (C). But what if I want the versatility, stealthiness and easy-parking of a 21ft Class B van? What if I want to be an Urban Cowboy like Scott😊 The Winnebago Revel is just too small of a rig. The new Coachmen 24A has a tiny garage underneath the aft twin beds, plus it is long at 24ft (why not just get the 23ft EKKO instead?) The Travato GL under-bed garage is also cramped. But the new Airstream Rangeline answers it with a modified Winnebago Revel Bed & Garage combo. Plus, it has a decent bathroom. I agree with others: it needs a bigger fridge with separate freezer (get rid of dog food bowls) and the option for Volta Lithium package, but that would probably add $30,000 to $40,000. Overall, as a debut, Airstream Engineers have done an outstanding job. Who would ever thought this since Airstream is selling their other Class B's for twice as much.
Some solar limited battery does need short power to operate AC. Factory rep walked through it in this video. NEW B VAN TOTAL WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE 2022 Hershey RV Show ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
Decent unit but 70's tech when it comes to generator and black water tank. Many parks do not allow generators running and I hate looking for a place to dump the tank. This looks like a "true" 2023 RAM Chassis...I would hope so, that is a plus! Is the price MSRP and is there any discounts available from dealers???
Looks really nice thanks for the tour. I have 2 issues, one my minor one, where is the medicine cabinet, where do you put your toothpaste, shampoo, etc., the other item is major for me because of the way I travel, the freezer is way too small, that would be a show stopper for me.
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I find it funny that you like to stay in the word kinda a lot; you said this is kind of …1:53 interesting, 2:54 cool it’s kind of neat.
I think it either is or it isn’t.
Just saying… great review.
Robo man programed. Expensive vehicle. But no one live will speak. Why after building something like that with huge price tag. They fired all salesmen.
Great tour BUT.... Not attractive at all for a manufactured campervan... most home van builds look much better to me... smiles
Very clever design and layout. I am glad they finally omitted the tv. Most people have their smartphones or laptops that they use instead.
Agree tv gone is good.. I do think see a need for bathroom sink either since a sink is literally just one step away.
I actually use and like the TV there
right on the TV
I like the microwave. Rarely see them in a van.
I'm not really liking it. A single plug in burner in a drawer? The inside back looks unfinished. You'll have to resheet the bed every night. It seems to emanate a sense of grudge that people want to occupy it.
Smart move Airstream building on this platform. Now put in a Volta system! 😊
Well said ! Volta is included in Airstream Sprinter-based vans now.
@@gosmall.livelarge probably Volta on next model year for a new talking point?
Thanks for doing these videos Scott. I really appreciate how you do these walk-thrus. Really informative.
You are welcome Ryan. Thx for being a loyal Audience Friend
I like the folding bed because there’s sometimes when you may need to use the van to haul a tall bulky item
good point
I would worry that you could dent the sheet metal roof / ceiling liner.
Panoramic RV is almost the same layout and similar high end build quality, but with an integrated propane cooktop and larger fridge, 35 gal fresh water, lithium batteries (220 standard/440 optional Ah), ability to make a second bed from the front lounge seats/table, and optional new Truma a/c. No poptop though. Scott if you ever manage to see one in person you will be very impressed!
I agree, this seems like a pale copy of the Panoramic.
Hi Liora. I have seen one in person. It is nice. Bathroom in the Rangeline is far better IMHO
I have not heard of Panoramic RV. It looks the only dealers are in Canada? I wonder if they are asking over $200K USD like everybody else. Prices are still ridiculous, imo. Van looks pretty nice, though.
@@gosmall.livelarge I just picked up my Panoramic a few weeks ago. It is the first Panoramic to be built on the US 2022 Ram ProMaster! The 2022 model has a lot more infotainment and safety features!Any chance we could meet sometime and you could rate it using your rating system? I live in SE Michigan.
@@kdel45 pretty reasonable but the quality compares to no other. US buyers can pick them up in upstate NY.
Wow! This will be perfect for my family. I really appreciate the walk thru.
Of course Cali !
I see your next van, once they put the Volta in! Nice tour!
I'm still a fan of my KL NPE. When we started looking at Travatos, I thought the bathroom in the back was weird, but I love it now. I like the open feel of it with the windows, and it's so easy to open up the back doors and do a thorough cleaning. I don't miss having a "real" sink in the bathroom. The fold-down sink works fine and makes the bathroom feel more spacious.
Hi Kathi !!
We're also fans of our Travato KL too! Floorplan and Lithium are great.
We have a 2018 Travato. For a class B it's laid out nicely. The only change I would have liked to be seen was Winnebago's choice of using the Pro-Master 3500. I think it would have been a better choice using the Mercedes with a diesel. For what a customer pays for these RV's, I'm not very impressed with the fit/finish of the Pro-Master.
Scott: I will be watching closely for a VOLTA option (no generator!) and, hopefully, the Euro-inspired headlights in place of the uglier front face. I would also appreciate either a dry-flush Laveo toilet or a cassette (no black tank!). I'm leaning toward Embassy (on the ProMaster platform), but like the seats and bed in the Rangeline better.
Thx Dave
It's a FIAT DUCATO it has the euro front end, its Italian!
Great SCOOP Scott! First to report on this new Airstream on a RAM!
Appreciate that
Great tour Scott! Love the design and flexibility. Airstreams are always so sleek looking too! Agree with you on the Volta.
I have an Interstate with the Aluminum ceiling. I like that the ceiling doesn’t hold onto moisture and smells. It still looks great after 16 years!
Wow !!! 16 years !
This is really close to MY preferred floor plan... would love Volta, more battery capacity, bigger inverter, dry flush toilet ( would settle for cassette), 4wd or Awd, Great walk thru Scott. We will have to check it out on Sunday in Hershey.
Yes, please take a look on Sunday. If you can attend on Saturday we are doing a GSLL Channel Roundup (meet-n-greet) at the General RV Winnebago Travato display. Would be aweseom to meet you in person
@@gosmall.livelarge Dam, wish we could but have to work Saturday! I'll catch it on youtube... thanks
Is this a “pale imitation” of the Panoramic rv?
that RangeLine has a sweet floor plan.
Agree
Scott, have you look into "Panoramic RV" from Canada? It has the similar layout with compatible price with better quality build. You should definitely check out the site and pay a visit. Highly recommend!
Panoramic is a great rig
Excellent job showing Scott!! Wish it had the Volta & 4wd. If you get the time could you show truck campers for half-ton trucks, example Lance model 650? Thanks & keep up the great work!!
Hey Van Can… might sneak in a track camper for you !
What's a Volta?
@@debbiebolek2117 EV Electric vehicles
Finally! something other than a Mercedes. Like almost everything about it. I would have liked to see the same layout with a lower bed that can also be used as a table. Love the bathroom.
Thx TJ
Love that batrpom
Bathroom is amazing
Absolutely beautiful. Thank you.
Hi Jan
Very nice!!!! Hope it has a nice lithium package!! Any idea if it does?
Would love to know if you are seeing prices come down a bit at the show!
Prices were conspicuously absent today. Tomorrow we see prices
I believe comes with 270 amp lithium battery and 2000 w inverter. Along with generator. They do now have new E1 system on other vans which is new. Hopefully they will offer as option on this rangeline. That would make this already awesome van even better!
Thank you, Lizzy
I think your right, it’d be nice if there was a little window in the bath just near the top for a little natural light in the bathroom.
Or a opaque shower screen.
Luxury to have window in van bathroom.
They hit it outta the park
It is compelling
In typical Scott fashion… you were first and knocked it out of the park.
Airstream did really good here.
Thx John !!!
I preferred to have this Airstream floor plan on the AWD Ford Transit-350...
Very good
Nice video, Scott - thank you again for your excellent insights!
thank you K
Nicely done. A lithium system with a 12v AC that would run from the batteries would be nice. Awning windows on the sliding door would be nice too. An exhaust vent in the bathroom would be appreciated. Otherwise, outstanding.
Agree with you, Rick
Yay leisure travel vans. Rear bed combo and extra storage. Wonder what quality is better for the same price. Leisure t. Airstream or winnebago. Insulation to. Please reply.
This is a great van! The only thing I would change is I wouldn't want the permanent table & the extra 2 seats. I'd rather have a recliner & a couple of laguna tables!!! That's my dream plus a big tv!! Thanks for sharing
Very good
Great layout, very well equipped. Great to have lithium standard. They have really been paying attention to the market and addressing some of the shortcomings in the existing choices. No deal breakers in my opinion. And if I'm reading correctly, no LP.
No propane, I think is correct. Bathroom is really well done IMHO
I love my propane stove.
Is this a “pale imitation” of the Panoramic rv?
The nicest and cleanest layout in a van, does it have winter capabilities like the Ekko.
The echo is a very different type of RV. This is more like a three. Five season rig. Airstream rep walks you through everything.NEW B VAN COMPLETE WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE by Airstream 2022 Hershey RV Show
ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
I can imagine getting red clay on that woven flooring. I don't think that would work in South Carolina.
Ooooooh. That is a great point. Yikes
Georgia agrees.
Thanks for showing us these two, Scott! I really like the poptop one! Gives the grandson a place to be! Keep on keepin' on!
Thanks Doris
Another great review--thanks. (FYI: "THULE" is pronounced "TOO-LEE." Thanks again, take care and keep your great reviews coming!
TOO-LEE… someday I will it right
As myself being older, I would not like the ladder ... other than that, Airstream's floor design is truly inviting 🎉❤ love the bath door. 😊 thank you for sharing. Safe travels
Thanks for sharing!
Scott, thanks for the video. Have you check "Panoramic RV" from Canada? It is very similar to this floor plan and price point but much better detail and customizations. You would love it at a first sight. Highly recommend!😀
Howdy Heasun! Yes the Panoramic camper van is amazing !
Really nice but the bed area ok...with a bit of personal customisation it would be perfect.
Fair enough! Did you see this video I did staying in a parking lot Urban Camping, ua-cam.com/video/DamOaRoTs0Q/v-deo.html
Love it! Making me thinking of updating from my 2006 interstate van
Sweet
Serious question: why have a restroom sink when there is one right outside the door? Just seems like extra plumbing/weight/complexity/etc.
Nice to have a bathroom sink to wash poppy paws, spit when cleaning teeth and other hygiene functions VS using kitchen sink.
Nice Van. I would prefer they made the back more of a lounge that converts to a bed which would make it usable all day. Build quality appears good but time will tell. Thanks for posting
Hi Walter !
I purchased a new Airstream Rangeliner. It appears that the window in the sliding door was not installed properly. Neither Airstream or Ram consider it their problem to fix. Also, I have discovered that the generator is leaking gas. Apparently that will be up to Cummings to fix. All of this is very disapointing
Oh no
thank you for great detail review.
Of course Glen
Scott Awesome informative video.... Quick question the width of the garage?
Not sure, Jason. Been awhile since i did that video. Did you see this cool video I made for you to Discover Old Florida, Micanopy, ua-cam.com/video/nVcYbPEiMCY/v-deo.html
Its ok, the tight hall area seems to tight. love the big table. It did not crack my top 2 (20c, 59g).
thanks Cane !
C'mon Airstream! The people want lithium power! I'm shopping for my first RV and this would be near the top of my list if it had a Volta or Lithionics system.
Seems that Airstream hit a sweet spot with this combination of some Lithium and a quiet generator. Just enough battery to power everything but the A/C. So no more starting the generator to microwave, cook dinner or make coffee. Keeps the price down as you will see this Airstream is at a good price point. Now the trouble with Airstream and the dealers is I suspect they are not discounting the prices. Hopefully Winnebago will wake from their slumber now and work towards a better quality build on the Travato. I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
Right on
definitely that will make my van in the next 3 months. thanks scott 😁
Sweet !
Both are pretty cool
Yes, indeed
I was wondering who was going to take over the Hymer Aktiv 2.0 layout! Lol
LOL…. Great Robin Williams movies… one of my faves, Oh Captain
Beautiful!!
Yes K3
I recently wrote Winnebago encouraging them to offer a classed up Solis PX trim, apparently Airstream responded!
Well said, Wayne !
It's basically a Travato G. I just learned about this at the Airstream factory tour and they're trying to come in at a lower price point than their existing Bs. I don't like that they have the old style problematic screen door. And like you said they don't offer a Volta system. Again this is their entry level van. I'm impressed by Airstream in general but after seeing this I'll definitely stick with my 2022 Travato.
Thx Allen
Us too! Love our Travato KL 2022! Next month we will have owned it for a year and never plugged it in because of the Lithium. Don't feel like I'm in a closet when using the bathroom because of the windows. We use it all the time, especially for daytrips to the beach!
Where is the fan for the shower?
Hmmm
Great Vid .. Nice find 59G ish, always wondered Y other builds never copied the 59G. This is Sweet, small fridge but overall Hell Yes! Thanks.......😊
Agree with you Billy !
Scott!
We will be there on Thursday
Look for us with Ruby our dog in the stroller
Ruby !!! If you can attend on Saturday too we are having a GSLL Channel Roundup at the General RV Winnebago Travato display at 11 AM
Seems that Airstream hit a sweet spot with this combination of some Lithium and a quiet generator. Just enough battery to power everything but the A/C. So no more starting the generator to microwave, cook dinner or make coffee. Keeps the price down as you will see this Airstream is at a good price point. Now the trouble with Airstream and the dealers is I suspect they are not discounting the prices. Hopefully Winnebago will wake from their slumber now and work towards a better quality build on the Travato. I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
Wake from the slumber… LOL 😝
I watched the manufacturer walk-through also and noted a couple of things from your video and theirs. The openable windows seem quite small, plus there’s not one in the galley area. It’s unclear how the small square windows open. Also,I didn’t see a max air fan anywhere in the ceiling. That and the small windows would make a hot, stuffy van. I do like the programmable generator where you can auto start the generator and ac based on temp. I like that it’s a gas fueled furnace with no LP onboard. It sounds like the insulation is a vast improvement over most class B’s. Even the vendor video fails to demo the process for putting the bed up and down. As Murphy beds go, the Travato 59G is still the best, in my opinion, because the bed can stay made as the one piece mattress just folds. This bed, and others, split apart into multiple cushions, which would likely decrease comfort with gaps and make keeping the bed made up with regular bedding difficult. There are some nice things but it still doesn’t beat your rig.
Thank you Faith for your thoughtful addition to the comments
Like everything but the kitchen luke the sink on other end and a built in cook top at least two burners. I thunk everything else is ok.
Thanks for sharing!
Watched the airstream video they put out, thought I didn’t like the bed, I now know I hate it. Everything else, the galley, front eating area/table, and bathroom is well done, except for as mention no natural light in the bathroom. No TV, that’s an issue for me.
I wish the Embassy had a better bathroom.
Ranger, rig is hard wired for TV in the bedroom.
It’s nice but seems cramped as compared to other brands brands. Bathroom is ok but I didn’t see venting for shower and toilet smells. The turn screw at the water access seemed plastic and flimsy. Kind of like it could break easily or many even strip out over time. Loved the dog trays but seemed a tad high for small breeds. I liked the portable cook top. Airstream is a well named brand. I kind of expect a little more from their design. These are just my personal opinion. Very nice walkthrough.
Hi Angela. Did you see this video I did staying in a parking lot Urban Camping, ua-cam.com/video/DamOaRoTs0Q/v-deo.html
I really love it
Agree with you
airstream should do raise of suspension and off road tires. carpentry is so easy and can be done by most of us.
Thx BenteLog
Intersting....love the height.. 9.3 with AC..my garage ism 10.3...might not need a RV port. Thank for walk through. B
Hi Lake !
I like them. Great price too. looking forward to dealer walk through for the bed.
Hi Darlene
Fantastic review! Question, did you say that the table is permanently inserted? If so, I don’t see how car seats could even begin to fit on that passenger bench, let alone little legs. Thanks for your feedback!
Hi Kirby. Seating does have connection for child seat, according to Airstream rep.
Where do the two other people/ kids sleep who are traveling with?
Unless the table makes into a bed, it is a great point !
Is there a van with a washer/dryer
Not enough room to accommodate those appliances in a van. Some manual devices are avaialble
Don't know where people are coming from with the 59G comments :) It's a Solis 59PX done right.
Agreed! Also the Panoramic, but I still think that rig is just slightly superior.
That was my first thought - a solis with the pop top plus the microwave, pre wired for TV, nicer cabinets, nicer interior materials overall - I love it
Hi Doug… interesting comment
Exactly!
this would be OK if it had a Volta system. Not a fan of the awning either. Give it 7/10. Thanks for the tour Scott.
Thx Bone Head !
I'm a BIG fan of the Thule (manual) awning on the Airstream Rangeline. I would never buy a motorized awning based upon many reports of failures and problems that occur with them.
@@daveking5576 I don't like the stabilizing poles.
Best design they ever came up with. Is solar standard
Yes, solar is standard as far as I know. You’ll want to see the walk-through with the airstream rep on this video. NEW B VAN COMPLETE WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE by Airstream 2022 Hershey RV Show
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Looks really nice! can't wait to check out all the vans at the show! Glad to see Airstream add to their motorized lineup - now they just need to add something on the Transit ;-)
Hopefully see you on Saturday for the GSLL Channel Roundup at the General RV Winnebago Travato display, 11 AM Sat :)
@@gosmall.livelarge be there or be square....🤣 Have you checked out the Leisure Travel Vans? (not quite a van technically)
I dig everything about this rig except for the archaic black tank. Airstream must have some contractual agreement with parks and rec sewage services.
Thanks, christopher
Such awesome video reviews of this!!!!! Thank you so much! I take deliver January 1st ;) ;) ;)
Congratulations Beth. You’ll have to keep us posted on your new van experience.
@@gosmall.livelarge I am SO excited! This one checked all our boxes. So grateful for your 2 reviews. They helped immensely.
What is the interior height please
Looking at specs, 6’2” interior…. www.airstream.com/touring-coaches/rangeline/specifications/
Almost perfect, but none are. As a family of 3 these Promasters with poptops would work great. Not sure how I feel about casset toilets vs. black tanks since I've never used either. As for solar/batteries; as long as you can plug more panels in and add a batter or two.
Pop top Van are very popular with families for good reason. Park those kids up ladder 🪜
Love it
Yes !
I wonder how much leg room can be had when the driver's seat is all the way back. I would like to buy a Travato KL, but the kitchen counter prevents the driver's seat from moving back far enough for me. It looks like there is a bit of space between the fixed table and driver's seat on this van--- I wonder if that allows the seat to go back all the way?
I’m also wondering how kids car seats would even fit if that’s a fixed table situation.
Hi Kelly
@@gosmall.livelarge Hi Scott!
I like it! Wish it was on the Ford chassis though...
Thanks Dx2
If they do not offer a three-way fridge it's not for me. ! I don't want a 25000$+ lithium package for a 5 ? days fridge operation. (20lbs of propane will suffice for 15 days ) P.S. no ventilation in the bathroom ?
Hi Paul
Is there a storage place I’m not seeing for the black tank empty hose?
Inside the back door? I didn’t see it and Airstream Justin didn’t point it out in the walkthrough. Great question
@@gosmall.livelarge Totally, I’m really curious. I know with other class b vehicles like this that there’s a storage space on the outside, and I can’t imagine Airstream to say we just need to put that hose on the inside.
The Bed design 'looks' great, but is it comfortable? For 130K you should get a larger frig. I presume there is a market that is willing to pay for all those bells and whistles, IDK.
Hi Robert. Thx for comment
Pretty nice!
Agree
I like
Very good
One of my favorite Bs on the market. Been researching the Airstream, Leisure, and Pleasureway, in depth. My biggest concern with the Airstream is the chassis. Or for that matter all of the class B chassis platforms that are available in North America. They are the "achilles hea l" of these units. To spend up to 200k on a n RV with a weak chassis and drive train is asking for trouble and expensive maintenance costs as they age. Just my opinion as someone who spent their career managing fleets.
Thanks John. Did you see this video I did staying in a parking lot Urban Camping, ua-cam.com/video/DamOaRoTs0Q/v-deo.html
Like the unit would want a lithium system and some type of natural light in the bathroom.
Lithium is standard.
Hi OH Sharon !
Great walkthrough, Scott! I like how they did the bed in the back, the outside has a clean profile, and the galley is nice, but that bathroom sink and all the seams look like lackluster manufacturing and design in the bathroom, especially from a company like Airstream. And as others have mentioned, no Volta. Overall, it's a pass. So much happier with the 2021 Travato GL NPFE!
Is this a “pale imitation” of the Panoramic rv?
Travato GL NPE ;)
Airstream is not owned by Airstream anymore.
For me on this size vans I like the designs of Travel Leisure Vans. They are a bit bigger and have a better layout
Thx for that
I really like what Airstream has created with Rangeline, but DO NOT WANT A BLACK TANK OR A GENERATOR. Do you know what would be involved to replace the toilet with a Laveo Dry-Flush and re-purpose the blank tank as a secondary gray tank? Also, since a VOLTA system is unknown, is there enough room in the box that holds the generator to accept a VOLVA or LITHIONICS custom install? I will ask these questions to an Airstrram dealer, but am interested in your take on them.
No big lihtium system options that I am aware of at this time. Appreciate your comments!
Very smart floor plan but i like the zion slumper sofa better in every way except the bathroom in the airstream is better
Thank you for your comment
You are so nice and awesome.. i love your channel.. I watch your zion slumber 2 videos iam 100% that is the best floor plan for me .. and again thank you so much for reading and replying to my comment 🥰❤️
Where at the Hershey Show is this located? Heading there tomorrow. Thanks for the walk around!
Hopefully you found the Airstream booth
@@gosmall.livelarge I did. Loved looking at it in person. Probably my favorite class B right now.
I do like it! But why did not they install TV?
Hard wired for TV install by the Dealer.
why they keep using 3/4 plyboard? it consume a lot of space. so many compartments, its hard to do general cleaning. and the price and the total vehicle weight balloon with so many customize storage. the windows are gone.
Apprecaite you weighing in with your personal van build or van travel experience
Need a pop up version.
There is a pop top option for about $11,000. Check out the walk-through video with the airstream rep. NEW B VAN COMPLETE WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE by Airstream 2022 Hershey RV Show
ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
The brush on the screen will deter rats. This is why garage doors have a brush at the bottom. Rats want to chew. They don't know what to do with the brush.
Thx for that
Class B, B+ and even 25 ft Class C's have minimal to no outside storage. Where do I put my folding Ebike (when I don't want it on an outside hitch?) Griddle/Grill? outdoor gear? In other words, where is my Garage? It has been answered with Winnebago EKKO (B+) and 2023 Tiffin Wayfarer LW (C). But what if I want the versatility, stealthiness and easy-parking of a 21ft Class B van? What if I want to be an Urban Cowboy like Scott😊
The Winnebago Revel is just too small of a rig. The new Coachmen 24A has a tiny garage underneath the aft twin beds, plus it is long at 24ft (why not just get the 23ft EKKO instead?) The Travato GL under-bed garage is also cramped.
But the new Airstream Rangeline answers it with a modified Winnebago Revel Bed & Garage combo. Plus, it has a decent bathroom. I agree with others: it needs a bigger fridge with separate freezer (get rid of dog food bowls) and the option for Volta Lithium package, but that would probably add $30,000 to $40,000.
Overall, as a debut, Airstream Engineers have done an outstanding job. Who would ever thought this since Airstream is selling their other Class B's for twice as much.
Well stated points Grant.
It is a beautiful van. They are not doing it Justice if they leave out Volta. That would knock it out of the park.
Completely agree
Very nice
Agree with you
What about energy storage systems (solar, battery, air con, etc.)?
Some solar limited battery does need short power to operate AC. Factory rep walked through it in this video. NEW B VAN TOTAL WALKTHROUGH 2023 RANGELINE 2022 Hershey RV Show
ua-cam.com/video/Fa4xkArai7Y/v-deo.html
Decent unit but 70's tech when it comes to generator and black water tank. Many parks do not allow generators running and I hate looking for a place to dump the tank. This looks like a "true" 2023 RAM Chassis...I would hope so, that is a plus! Is the price MSRP and is there any discounts available from dealers???
Hi Jo, thanks for your nice comments. Check with an RV dealer on just
I assume you could put a portable propane or an electric burner on the countertop.
Unit comes with a portable induction cooktop, Dave
Looks really nice thanks for the tour. I have 2 issues, one my minor one, where is the medicine cabinet, where do you put your toothpaste, shampoo, etc., the other item is major for me because of the way I travel, the freezer is way too small, that would be a show stopper for me.
Thank you for your comment Alan
Thank you